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First and foremost i want to explain the meaning of "Children born out of Wedlock". It simply means a means a child born out of marriage.
So by this explanation it shows that 60% of us here were born out of wedlock. In most cases, those children are the ones that triggered their father to pay their mothers dowry. If not for them the man is not even ready to pay anything yet.
But in Africa we begin to view such children as illegitimate child. But the big question is that does God also view that child as illegitimate? I think the answer is no. Because if God sees that child as illegitimate then He will not bless that child. Then if so who are you to call a gift of God as illegitimate. They are denied access to their fathers wealth. But i bet you to do research very well you will see that most of our successful people in society are children born out of wedlock. I dont want to mention names but you that is reading this, are you not doing well for yourself? Abi Dem Born you for inside Marriage? What about those who waited to be married before they will start having kids and ends up not having one. It is only God who has program this life the way it is.
Africans should learn to accommodate every child who is their blood. Most married men are taking care of other people's kids as a result of their wife's infidelity. Is it not better to have my own child out of wedlock than to have another man's child in my house.

In our World, it's actually unlawful(a sin) to procreate outside of marriage but that doesn't mean the children should be hated or not cared for.
If you conceive and give birth in sin, the child will mostly be contaminated by that sin, become unstable and owned by an evil entity that cannot be seen. But only True Baptism of our LORD  can save or deliver the child.

In regards to inheritance, that will depend on a child's gender. The female inherits the husband properties while the male inherits the fathers'. A child who is considered illegitimate may still be entitled to inheritance if he is more attached to the father and loves him and his family. Besides he bears his father's surname name and he should atleast be entitled to the rights of an adopted son. All these will become easy if the child is changed for good through the Word of the CREATOR otherwise you should be mindful of his/her instability. Such children becoming successful, maybe financially, doesn't really matter much especially if the success isn't clean. What matters most is good characters or behaviors of the children.

God spoke the universe into existence. Even with all the trouble we have here in this life, the universe is still perfect. It's perfect because Jesus upheld the perfection by His sacrifice on the cross.

The only thing a newborn knows is the forming of himself that has been done by God in Mommy's tummy. So, he has great faith in God. Once he is in the world for a while, he is distracted by all the stuff his senses feed him, and he forgets the God who used the physics of the universe to put him together in Mommy's tummy.

God loves all the little children, even the ones who are 100 years old.

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It’s 2024, we are not in the Stone Ages, the acceptance of children born out of wedlock has evolved. Society has become more inclusive & understanding of different family structures. Traditional views still exist but most people by recognise that the legitimacy of a child should not be determined solely by the marital status of their parents. The well being & love provided by parents are crucial in shaping a child's upbringing regardless of their marital status.

My parents used to think so.
They were both Catholic and religion was a big part of their lives, but they were both unhappily married. My father's first wife couldn't bear children and they didn't know that before marriage. My mother could, but her first husband had anger issues and would beat her, so they both divorced and got together, but they couldn't get married again, as the Church doesn't allow people to divorce. In the eyes of priests they were still legally married to their first spouses when they were making me... Long story short, I was recognized as "legit" by the Church and I have my father's name. My parents stayed together until my mother died a few years ago, so I guess that if it wasn't real love, it had to be something else, like dedication. Shouldn't that be encouraged by God?
People make mistakes, but what matters is if they are good, if they try to be good. IMO my parents were good people and they wanted to have a child together because they loved each other. That's an act worth a blessing, am I right?

Do not get the religious bullshit get into your head. Religion is just something man made, and it was used to divide and rule some very strong and united societies. Unfortunately, the whole thing has stuck around to this date.

From this, I gather that you might be from Africa. If I may ask, before the European colonizers invaded your land by first sending the Missionaries and their religions. Should we say all your Great Great Great forefathers who were born out of "wedlocks" were all illegitimate?

That's a rather silly religion you have there.     8)

While it has become a norm for many countries to have people born their children outside the marriage. That's fine, for them as long as they can provide for their children. Because if it's outside then they cannot, that's the harder part of it. On most religious law, it's forbidden to have children outside marriage but can they stop the curiosity of these people to just do what they wanna do and it bear fruit afterwards?

We can just take that any form that has a life is a blessing from above. But not all of it are actually blessing because you know, there are intimate relationships that shouldn't be made because one or the other is already tied with a partner. You know what I am saying? And that's why it's up to the people seeing the situation to judge them but with that, it's better not to judge anyone especially if you're a religious person as that's what the teachings said. So confusing, right? But just be the better person with these matters.

The thing is that God regards all humans as equal and at most marriage institutions were established in this world but childbirth is divine,  although legitimate childbearing is mostly acclaimed by society and not divine from God because God is only interested in the human nature and how he left his life on earth and if God does regards marriage so much,  he would have not given unmarried people children and only allow those who have legally married to have a child alone.

But today you find some married couples with long years of childlessness while unwanted pregnancy and children born out of wedlock flood every corner of our today's society, this points to the fact that God chose to give a life to whoever is engaging in sexual intercourse irrespective of their marital status.

This is an important question that is beyond human thinking and that is why I come with all the proof to back my claim. I don't think it a blessing from God. But still go through this link pls gradually.

Are children born out of wedlock is still a blessing from God?

It should be noted that children conceived out of wedlock are automatically entitled to inherit from their deceased mother but not automatically from their deceased father. A child born out of wedlock is disqualified from inheriting from his or her deceased father as an intestate beneficiary in terms of Islamic law.
21 It should be noted that it is possible for a child born in wedlock not to inherit from his father if he was conceived out of wedlock. Islamic law looks at the moment of conception and not the moment of birth.

Source link: http://www.scielo.org.za/scielo.php?script=sci_arttext&pid=S1682-58532021000100008#:~:text=20%20It%20should%20be%20noted,in%20terms%20of%20Islamic%20law.

Check the link again for more understanding: https://www.google.com/amp/s/islamqa.info/amp/en/answers/85043 :)

Children born out of wedlock are children born as a result of body relations outside of legal marriage according to religion.
Because basically this child is not wrong about what his parents are doing. This child can still be a blessing for his parents who can accept the presence of this child. Because the child is outdated out of marriage, it is still a sacred man and is clean from sin. This child also has the same rights and obligations as other children, especially worshiping God. This child can also be a child who obeys God, can enter heaven if they believe, can help their parents if they pray or give alms on their behalf.

Children are innocent and shouldn't be made to face the consequences of the decisions of their parents regards getting married legally, they deserve all the love and affection from the parents and respect in the society, born out of wedlock should not deter anybody from achieving greatness in life. Marriage is important, and it mainly implies in religion and tradition, in this age some some couples can decide to stay together and have children without getting legally married, and these children will inherit their wealth.

In your own case your parents couldn't get married because of the laws of the church, yet they loved each other and raised you well, so God, loves you and because he created you in his image, that means that you're entitled to His blessings, despite what the laws of religion and tradition says

Children are always innocent,  they know nothing about what parents have done before they came to the world. Every child is a blessing and the sin of a mother or the father can't affect the child because the child knows nothing . One thing I know about life is that we all will give account to the sin we make and it can be transferred to the child.  The father will bear the consequences of his sin, and same thing with mother. As the child is coming up, he will also bear his own sin and can't be transferred to the parents.

children born out of wedlock are very much blessings from God. It doesn't mean because they are born out of wedlock they aren't. It's just the different thinking of people. I'll say many of us born are out of wedlock. But the bible doesn't see it like that. Because every child born out of wedlock is a blessing because God doesn't reject them because of their parents sin rather he accepts and blesses them wholeheartedly because they are innocent and had no knowledge of their parents misdeeds. After all we see in the bible king Solomon was born out of wedlock from his father David who took another man's wife. But God still blessed him as the wisest and richest king in the bible. So for that every child born is a blessing.

The parents’ unreadiness is not at all the child’s fault. If they were not ready then they should not have engaged in such activities. I believe that God sees as all equal and loves us regardless of our titles or names. But in the society, a child born out of wedlock would be treated differently based on the context.

Was the child born because his or her parents were not yet married or because one of the parents were already married to someone else? If it is the latter then it is indeed a different story altogether. Of course it is considered taboo in our society and it is even illegal but the child should not pay for his or her parents’ sins.

I think that being born out or inside of wedlock does not determine one’s future. A child born out of wedlock might face some challenges but so does the child born inside of wedlock. It all depends on what kind of parents the child has and how the child was raised.

Well, it's not their fault they've been born out of wedlock, their parents will always be at fault and to some extent, the society that they're living in because if they weren't raised in a society that scorns and mocks children and people that's involved in such a complicated relationship then we won't see this mindset of whether something is a blessing or not.

Children will always be children even though they are born in marriage or out of wedlock, only those that will be responsible for them are the parents, all children are from God and no man has ever made a bit success in trying to create one, so they are supernatural gift from God, but we must not engage in illicit means of giving birth to this children because they will be innocent on this and we are going to be accountable on them.

OP, I don't know the country that you are from because I don't think that any child born out of wedlock would be abandoned or deprived his rights as member of the family. Religion do not also critize or forbid children born out of wedlock, we are now in a civilized society that it is not compulsory for people to get married first before they can give birth. Sometimes, the pregnancy was something that was not planned for but because they don't want to abort the baby, and they decided to keep the pregnancy, till the child is been given birth to. Sometimes, it is after the child has been given birth to that the parents will start preparing themselves for the wedding. It is when the parents are not concerned about their cohabitation that it might end up becoming a shame to them at old age for not getting married the proper way.

I have seen some people that they don't have money to start up a family in the right way, but after they have give birth to one child or tow children, there will be open doors of blessing to them due to the luck of the child or children, and the family will become rich and the needful would be done. From my traditional as long as you are the first male child, either through wedlock or not, he will be the heir to the throne. Children are gift from God, and we don't know the one that will finally be the pillar of the family.

Through marriage people give birth to children it is a blessing from God. It is never a man made thing. There are many married couples who try hard but are unable to give birth to children. It is never possible without God's will we should express our gratitude to God for the best gift that God has given us children. Many people get involved illegally and give birth to children but it is a big crime. It is better to think about the society and choose the right way.

Is the topic really relevant here?

But I will still answer you, OP, how do you understand God. And if I understand this quote correctly, then you are actually wrong about the issue being raised, but it is understandable that the lack of language leads to your confusion.

And I want to tell the OP, really the concept of God that you know and understand is only through social standard prejudices, and when you realize God exists everywhere and there is no distinction. Your question is a part of God. And to make things clearer, every species is a part of God, even you and me. I do not direct you to any character in terms of the ability to create it all, because that is the limit that people misunderstand.

I remember a video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6AHcv19NIc
Hope you can feel some of the problem, after all I'm not a religious person at all, but I understand the messages they mentioned. Even looking at other religions, the answer will still be the same. However, I still want to say that hopefully we will be able to discuss issues outside the scope of social knowledge in appropriate places.

The Bible which is the  Holy book of the Christain faith says in one of it's chapter's that Children are an heritage from God. Mind you it didn't categorize it that children born in wedlock are an heritage from God but it  was rather a general statement to both those born in and out of wedlock.  I have known many individuals that were born out of wedlock that are today the backbone of their immediately family financially they are now the builders of the family that through them those born in wedlock are now growing financially too. So all children irrespective of under what category they were conceived and birthed are all a blessing from the Almighty.

You sound like you're forcing everyone to accept the fact that almost every one here is born out of wedlock but you're actually wrong, now in a modern era I hardly see kids like this but even if, why should I reject or condemn humans. I have never seen anyone critizing children like this and surprising people involved in critizing kids born out of wedlock are just naturally  wicked. Why will society reject any child born out of wedlock, when applying for a  job I barely read the conditions before applying but I have never seen a law stated with this kind of mindset, stop fighting or picking argument when there's nothing to fight about although your society might view this as a sinful act but not the child, the child must be exempted.

Children are blessing from God wether out of wedlock or in marriage they are blessing, one thing should know is that the children in question can not be hold responsible for the commitment of their parents and again they don't know the circumstances behind their birthday so why won't they be blessing, I will eve tell young for fee that most children born out of wedlock use to very successful and rich, that's why the reasoning of God is different from men, the blessing of God knows know boundary, his love is unconditional so no matter how a child is been given birth to, such children remains a blessing to his people.

Any discussion centered on GOD as the focal point then the answer should be coming from the Bible. Which is the word of GOD and not from the cognitive level of humans. From the Bible Children are a blessing from GOD. It did not say children born only from marriages are blessings. Although it is right for children to born into marriage so as to get proper tutorship from both parents. I believe every child is a blessing from GOD but training the child he right way is the responsibility on the parents.

Religionism has blindfolded some people to an extent that they don't want to even be enlightened. if you try to pass a better knowledge to them, you're immediately seen as an enemy or Antichrist.
Children are the nature extension of life whether it comes from unwanted pregnancy or not it's a fruit that most be kept well, according to the religious books children are blessings from God. In African culture there is nothing like wedlock it's a believe that was coined in the era of religion. I would have love to expand this knowledge but perhaps it's not worth blabbing unnecessarily.

Children born out of wedlock to me is a blessing from God, a better one for that matter and we shouldn't forget that no one knows tomorrow and what that child will become in future. Fine that act isn't good but haven't we have this thought that things might be changing for good, like those things we say ain't good is some how things that's suppose to be happening now. God knows why things happen the way they do and is not everyone who's suppose to give birth in marriage, some can only give birth in that manner (wedlock) and later get married and you'll see that the marriage is more blessed than those who waited till they got married before having children. Nobody knows how God plans things for us so to me that word and how people treat those who have children before marriage shouldn't be anymore.

All children are from God whether they are born from wdlock or not, we don't need to use circumstances to categorize innocent CV children because that's not the right way for us to judge people from different circumstances they might find themselves.
We need to see children as themselves whether they are from a rich family or poor family. Segregative lifestyle is not the best and we need to know what we are doing to prevent unnecessary drama.

I still don't agree that children born out of wedlock are not blessings from God!.

 Children generally are blessings according to the bible, biblically we have records of children born through some ungodly circumstances who were later loved by God and used for lifelong purposes, people like Ishmael, Solomon etc.

In conclusion, every child is a blessing from God regardless of how they came into the world

I think the narrative related to your question is identifying if God is an angry God that punish the child because of the sins of the parents.  I believe that No.  He is not an angery God but a gracious one who sent His Son to serve and save the world and not to condemn it.

Hence, children who are born in wedlock may be a product of sin/s but not a curse and can also be considered a blessing (and a consequence of the actions of the parents at the same time).  It is wrong to blame the child that he/she was born unexpectedly and unplanned, it is the fault of the parents.

I depends! You can't pass someone with a wide brush like that as a blessing or a curse nowadays because in this 3rd decade of 21st century our whole society is in a flux transitional mode worldwide. Nothing is stable now. Not even marriage as an old age institution.

If no blessing for children born from wedlock I don't think the world will be where it is now, because if everyone trace from where we are coming from, our fore fathers and mother can be a product from wedlock . How a child was born has nothing to do with child,  children are  innocent and very special to Good almighty. Children are blessing can always do well, children can only have problem growing up based on the kind of lifestyle of their parents

I never heard of such a tradition but sadly this is happening right now at our time, individuals should have their own choice when it comes to choosing their lifetime partner and they shouldn't be forced to marry someone just because their parents told them to do so or they are force to marry someone because of unpaid loans. I heard such kinds of stories in our community from my teacher and it wasn't really good for the woman because she didn't love the guy, she wasn't giving him what he wants at night, and the guy was forced to rape her and she got pregnant because of that. Then after she gets an idea where she befriends the guy until she gets an opportunity to work abroad which she does and never returns to him, she leaves both her child and her husband because she doesn't love him.

I believe children are supposed to be loved, protected and be taken care of, regardless they have been born inside or outside of wedlock.
Interestingly, because of the sexual freedom women have been able to claim in these lastest decades, it has become more common to see children being born outside marriage.
Even among people who are very religious and somehow end up having children outside marriage, they do not condem the conception of the children, instead, with enough time they are likely to accept the new blessing which have reached their lives and wont question whether what they did was wrong or not.
On the other hand, I have also seen people talking about abortion in the past, solely because of the stigma of getting pregnant before marriage. It gives me chills, really.
No children is guilty of being born, neither were we, so if something can be done, it would be the protectiong and caring of all children possible, not matter the status of their parents.

In Christan theology, a man born of a woman is being conceived and born a sinner. He/ she is under condemnation and is destined to go to hell fire except there is repentance, and declaring the Lord Jesus Christ His Lord and personal saviour. This gives salvation to the individual.
Again, sexual intercourse and it's attendant outcomes such as pregnancy and child birth are one of those dynamic forces of nature that occurs without recourse to secular ordinances but had been programmed by the Almighty God to occur whenever there is conjugation between male and female.
Moreover, out of wedlock or whatever it could be called as pre marital sex that definitely results to pregnancy is a sin before God. Though the child is innocent of the sexual act of the parents, all are sinners before God and guilty for condemnation. But all could be a blessing to God if repentance is effected on individual basis.
Therefore, no tribal ordinances nor philosophical praxis could declare that child illegitimate on the basis of the said outcome. Everyone is illegitimate before God except an individual repents of his/ her sins.

Anyway, most of the things you talked about are even beginning to change even in African society so we don't even need to worry about them anymore.

Regards to children and bearing kids, it is totally in the hands of God. You will see rich family without a child while a poor family has plenty of it and rejecting.

This is a dilemma to say the least but however, why I alluded that some of the things have started changing is that, in African society now, legal adoption of kids is now prevalent so no family has any excuse to give for not having a baby in the house after they have tried by themselves with no avail and the children from such adopted background are no longer stigmatized because almost in every extended family, you get to see a family member or someone close with adopted baby, so why the stigma and you see that is going away gradually.

Also in the past, there use to be segregation on the sex of a child because of certain benefits like being a heir to the father and inheritance purposes but now, in some states, county etc, they have really played down on those sex and even gender responsibilities because things have really changed and people have to move on, enjoying the good radiance of life. In some places in Africa, they now tell you a child is a child no matter the sex.

I hate to break it to you but God didn't create any children. I know this might sound as if I don't believe in God but it's a fact. Just like the way God didn't tell rain to fall before it rains, or the sun to shine before the sun shines. Things have been programmed to happen a certain way and by nature, that's how they happen. One thing leads to the other.

God (or whatever you believe in) has made it so that if a man and a woman have sex and the sperm cells of the man fertilize the eggs of the woman she'll conceive and after 9 months when the child would be born. God didn't create the child and put it in the woman's womb. Something happened. Did God also create children to put in the womb of women who were raped? No! It's just nature. After dawn comes night and then dawn again. It's just nature.

If you plant a seed in good soil that fits that particular seed, it will grow. If that seed doesn't grow then something is wrong. Likewise the case of bearing children. If all that's to happen happens yet the woman doesn't conceive, then something is wrong. So I don't believe children are a blessing from God. Children are just a product of a sperm fertilizing an egg. If there's no fertilization, there will be pregnancy, meaning no kids.

No children are born out of wedlock; we simply did not intend to have children, especially if things were not going well for us. God does not discriminate based on our relationship status; everything happens for a reason, good or bad, as long as it is from God. Children are always blessings to us in some way.

The question you asked are children who are born out of wedlock still a blessing from God?And the answer to that question is YES.Children are gift and blessing from God.Whether a child was born out of wedlock or not,once a child is born there is this sinful nature of the child according to religion even the bible stated it clearly to the christains every child was conceived out of sin.So it is left for the child to work out his or her own salvation.And also we are in a society where children born out of wedlock (illegitimate child) are deprived from inheriting their father's right.And these children turn out to be great in the future that's where we see the blessings of God in the lives of illegitimate children, that means our God is a God of love He doesn't look at the background or status of a person before lifting up the person

I agree with you on your saying because some parents or should I say many people say it like having a child/children before marriage is an abomination or a cures. God who gave the child knows more than we all humans but people just take that word WEDLOCK in a different way, I don't get it, God give children and bless that which he has created and we humans come about it by discriminating it and speak ill about Gods' creation, that alone should be a punishment for those who don't accept what God has done the way it is.
The way I see it, those who don't take the child as God own creation are the ones who have sinned but they don't know, after all God works in a wonderful and mysterious ways.

One possible disadvantage for children born out of wedlock is a lack of legal safeguards and rights. In a number of nations, children born outside of marriage may not have the same inheritance privileges or have access to social services as children born to married parents. This might put children at a drawback, making it more difficult for them to achieve in life. It can also have a psychological impact on them, causing them to struggle with emotions of neglect or being dismissed, as well as preventing them from forming healthy connections. So, I believe it is essential to examine the needs of the children in these kinds of circumstances and to ensure that they have a connection to the financial and emotional stability they require to survive in spite of being born outside of marriage.

Children born as a result of adultery should not be labeled as illegitimate children or despicable children born into this world. Basically the child doesn't know anything about his birth into the world. it would be very cruel if someone called it like that. There is still a polemic regarding the future status of the child born as a result of adultery. According to the teachings and what I understand in my religion. Based on the consensus of the ulama, a child who is born as a result of an adulterous relationship, the child's status will be assigned to the mother's child and not to the biological father, why is that because the relationship with the biological father is severed, including legally his inheritance. He only has the right to inherit from his mother and vice versa, his mother has the right to inherit from him.
and it is still a matter of discussion what the status of a child will be when he is an adult and who has the right to be his guardian? According to the ulama, the person who has the right to be the guardian of the child's marriage will be the judge's guardian because he cannot be related to his biological father because he grew up in a fetus and gave birth without prior marriage, inversely proportional to if the child grows up in the fetus of his parents who are married and has become her mahrom. Hopefully this will be educational so that it doesn't become a misunderstanding in the future, most children who are born as a result of their biological father's adultery are considered to be able to be their guardians, they are considered normal, they are considered the same as children born to non-adultery parents when they get married later, of course This violates the rules and violates the law in religion. For that reason, let's educate the environment and people around us so that young couples don't get pregnant out of wedlock. Of course I hope and pray for everyone to avoid the sin of adultery and always fear Allah, carry out all His commandments and stay away from all His prohibitions...

Regardless of religion it's considered as sin committed if children are born out of wedlock like extra marital afraid or live in relationship or even one night stand and the region where you live plays a vital role because if you are from countries like India, Pakistan, Bangladesh and other African or Arab nations then it becomes more difficult as there will be an "Illegitimate" tag attached but I would say it's fault of the parents who did this and not the children and they would not be differentiated in the view of god.   

 Children are an heritage of God. His gift. In the society we live in, it's important that a couple get married before children come in but what if they haven't and the child comes? Fine, they have sinned but that doesn't stop the reward from coming . For me, where it becomes a problem is when you did it before getting married and when you find you are with child as the woman, due to pressure, you terminate the baby. That's like committing two sins but since I'm not God, I can't say that person is beyond being forgiven. God's gifts makes rich and adds no sorrow so it don't matter whether the child was born out of wedlock or in marriage, all are still blessings.

So assuming the couple get married and there's no issue, are you trying to tell me their marriage was not blessed or what?

Such illegal or illegitimate tag that you referred to is beginning to go away especially on the third world countries that you mentioned. Europe and America have since moved on from this old way of thinking and now Africa has joined to accept every child born as legal, this is majorly because adoption is now becoming a practice well established lately .