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Title: Buying and Selling of Casino Accounts (Discussion thread)
Post by: Fivestar4everMVP on February 17, 2024, 06:08:01 PM
 On several occasions, I've come across some individuals in chat groups, mostly on discord, telegram, and in other social groups like on Facebook, reddits advertising their intentions to sell their account on casino, casinos usually ranges from Stake - which is for sure, one of the biggest online casinos if not actually the biggest, to other casinos like BC.game, offer is usually available for mostly; casinos with a VIP ranking system, and the VIP level of the account (and of course the entitled amount of bonus to be received) is what usually determines the amount of money the seller would ask for from bidders.

Now, my question is..
- is it right to sell ones casino account, most especially when the account is KYCed?
- Do casinos have any policy against account sells?
- If you have the opportunity of buying a casino account, would you buy or build yours from afresh?
- Would you sell your casino account if you decide to leave gambling completely, most especially, your KYCed account? If yes, how do you trust the buyer?
- Over all, is casino account trading legitimate? If yes, should I create a thread where gamblers can easily post their casino account sell ads?

Lets make this thread a place to discuss everything related to buying and selling of casino account?


Title: Re: Buying and Selling of Casino Accounts (Discussion thread)
Post by: bitbollo on February 17, 2024, 06:13:45 PM
Let me answer in this interesting topic...
- absolutely not. this is a fraud. it's illegal according ToS and it's illegal in most of western countries (tax fraud, scam, laundering more and more and more....)
- yes that's reported in ToS
- of course fresh. I will not buy never in any case. just because it's more convenient grow directly by yourself and avoid any previous issues...
- no. I don't want anyone will known anything about me. Just a note, people call me with a name, that's not my real name on documents ;)
- no, first answer is ok...


Title: Re: Buying and Selling of Casino Accounts (Discussion thread)
Post by: Findingnemo on February 17, 2024, 06:16:39 PM
Selling casino accounts is prohibited as far as I know in most of the casino where they have reward system in place so if you ever came across someone selling casino account then just don't buy at all. It may be a fraud apart from that one who buys risk every deposit, bets, winning and withdrawal at risk and we all know sooner or later we will stuck with no option when they ask for KYC verification.


Title: Re: Buying and Selling of Casino Accounts (Discussion thread)
Post by: cabron on February 17, 2024, 06:35:11 PM

The buyers also are aware this is risky that logging in to that bought account would result in getting busted.  Both buyers and sellers are untrustworthy and we know it is not allowed but they created a market for it. Sellers do have the idea of why someone would want to buy an account but if they were selling it still, maybe they are really in need of the money. They have their reasons.

The VIP accounts do have advantages and they get bonuses too which I guess is what interests those buyers.


Title: Re: Buying and Selling of Casino Accounts (Discussion thread)
Post by: uneng on February 17, 2024, 06:51:11 PM
I suppose that by purchasing a casino account, someone must be interpreting this as an investment, correct? Sadly, this is a dumb idea, because even though it's a VIP account full of benefits such as raised rakeback, it doesn't worth at all, since the gambler is still likely to lose on long run, so he isn't going to recover the investment made, plus the following deposits made to start wagering after hitting long loss streaks.

If it's a forbidden practice, it must be read in terms and conditions of each casino platform. Anyway, if I were the casino's operator, my only concern would be regards ideological falsehood, since KYC accounts could be being used by another individuals, what configures a serious crime, where the casino might be accounted guilty as well, if spotted it's being conniving with the practice.

However, the sole act of gamblers selling VIP accounts to each other shouldn't be an issue for the casino, because it doesn't prejudice the house financially in anyways on long run. Gamblers still lose the more they play, and receive only a small percentage of the wagered amount through rakeback, which isn't enough to break the house, neither guarantee gamblers the ROI over the accounts' purchases.


Title: Re: Buying and Selling of Casino Accounts (Discussion thread)
Post by: Stepstowealth on February 17, 2024, 06:51:48 PM
- is it right to sell ones casino account, most especially when the account is KYCed?
It is not right because after your KYCed account has been sold, you can never trust what the buyer of the account will do with the account that has your details. If it used for money laundering, you could have a problem on your hand and get arrested.

- Would you sell your casino account if you decide to leave gambling completely, most especially, your KYCed account? If yes, how do you trust the buyer?
Even If I trust the direct buyer of my account, I can never trust that the account will not be resold to another person who may then use it for bad.


Title: Re: Buying and Selling of Casino Accounts (Discussion thread)
Post by: Sunderland on February 17, 2024, 07:18:55 PM
On several occasions, I've come across some individuals in chat groups, mostly on discord, telegram, and in other social groups like on Facebook, reddits advertising their intentions to sell their account on casino, casinos usually ranges from Stake - which is for sure, one of the biggest online casinos if not actually the biggest, to other casinos like BC.game, offer is usually available for mostly; casinos with a VIP ranking system, and the VIP level of the account (and of course the entitled amount of bonus to be received) is what usually determines the amount of money the seller would ask for from bidders.

Now, my question is..
- is it right to sell ones casino account, most especially when the account is KYCed?
- Do casinos have any policy against account sells?
- If you have the opportunity of buying a casino account, would you buy or build yours from afresh?
- Would you sell your casino account if you decide to leave gambling completely, most especially, your KYCed account? If yes, how do you trust the buyer?
- Over all, is casino account trading legitimate? If yes, should I create a thread where gamblers can easily post their casino account sell ads?

Lets make this thread a place to discuss everything related to buying and selling of casino account?

1. After the account has been verified it doesnt mean that the casino will never ask another verification.
They have the rights to do that again to any suspected account. So, selling or buying casino account might bring you problem in the future.

2. Yes, most of the casino already mentioned about it on their T&C
e.g:
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Your Account is for Your sole personal use only and shall not be used for any professional, business or commercial purpose.
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We reserve the right to immediately suspend, freeze or terminate your account if you:
1. blabla
2. blabla
3. Sell the account
etc

3. Better build from the fresh, there are some reasons why some people willing to buy casino acc such as:
The buyer has blacklisted on many casino and he need a new clean account to abuse the casino.
The buyer need a high ranking account to get the bonuses/faucet/promo on certain casino.
The buyer not able to do KYC because he/she come from blacklisted country

4. No, it's better to be safe than sorry

5. It is forbidden also soon or later the casino definitely will know about it.
Nah, no need to wasting your time for unimportant thread like that.




Title: Re: Buying and Selling of Casino Accounts (Discussion thread)
Post by: decodx on February 17, 2024, 07:23:28 PM
No. Selling casino accounts is asking for trouble.  It breaks the casino's Terms of Service that you agreed to.  Sharing personal info like KYC details is against the law too and,  you risk identity theft and fraud by selling your private data.  Buying accounts is risky as well.  You can't trust what you're getting.  Best to make your own account the right way, even if it takes longer.  That keeps things above board.


Title: Re: Buying and Selling of Casino Accounts (Discussion thread)
Post by: Davidvictorson on February 17, 2024, 07:33:26 PM
Now, my question is..
- is it right to sell ones casino account, most especially when the account is KYCed?
- Do casinos have any policy against account sells?
- If you have the opportunity of buying a casino account, would you buy or build yours from afresh?
- Would you sell your casino account if you decide to leave gambling completely, most especially, your KYCed account? If yes, how do you trust the buyer?
- Over all, is casino account trading legitimate? If yes, should I create a thread where gamblers can easily post their casino account sell ads?

Lets make this thread a place to discuss everything related to buying and selling of casino account?
There will always be people who will stand for or against selling casino account irrespective of what the law says. I think their slogan will be "don't get caught."

Personally, I do not like the idea of selling one's account. What if the buyer uses it for laundering and you are arrested instead of the person what will be your explanation to the court. The risk is too high,

The right thing to do will always be the right thing to do. Building my account from the scratch is a better and peace of mind option than buying. The day I leave gambling, is the day I close my gambling account. Selling of casino account is like promoting fraud, please do no create a thread for it.


Title: Re: Buying and Selling of Casino Accounts (Discussion thread)
Post by: EarnOnVictor on February 17, 2024, 07:47:44 PM
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- is it right to sell ones casino account, most especially when the account is KYCed?
I don't think is right. It is your name and identity that are attached to the account, it's impersonation if it's being used by another person other than you whether you grant the permission or not. The law will treat it otherwise, and you are liable to conspire.

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- Do casinos have any policy against account sells?
I think they have. You can confirm that with their Ts&Cs. Even if it is not such that is directly stated, they can never encourage that. And if caught, the account would be banned immediately.

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- If you have the opportunity of buying a casino account, would you buy or build yours from afresh?
I like to build afresh. Gambling is not a must-do for me. Also, there's nothing special about VIP or special status for me to warrant such desperation.

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- Would you sell your casino account if you decide to leave gambling completely, most especially, your KYCed account? If yes, how do you trust the buyer?
No, I can't sell my gambling account even if I am not gambling again. This is risky and could be criminal as well. What if the account you completed your KYC with is now used for fraudulent acts, what would you do if it escalated? By then, the money you collected for the account sale will no longer be worth it.

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- Over all, is casino account trading legitimate? If yes, should I create a thread where gamblers can easily post their casino account sell ads?
No. This can never be legitimate, it's even criminal if the law is to be interpreted to it. As for the second part of the question, I don't think it is necessary. You might be encouraging illegality by that, and since you created the thread, there is no way you can exonerate yourself entirely.

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Lets make this thread a place to discuss everything related to buying and selling of casino account?
It's a free world, bro.


Title: Re: Buying and Selling of Casino Accounts (Discussion thread)
Post by: electronicash on February 17, 2024, 07:48:30 PM
what do they do to the accounts they buy other than playing games and betting on sports?
If the account is KYCed i think many will be interested to buy in protecting his privacy and this is for the high rollers too. otherwise, just register and play, those casinos don't ask for IDs from someone with just $100 in their account.

and for a user who also submitted his IDs yet sold his account,  you are in big trouble if the user who bought your account does illegal activities like laundering.


Title: Re: Buying and Selling of Casino Accounts (Discussion thread)
Post by: kojektea on February 17, 2024, 07:53:23 PM
As far as I know, buying and selling accounts is prohibited, most people buy accounts to get bonuses, such as stakes, the higher your account rank, the higher your monthly bonus. That's why many people want to buy a casino account, because they feel the bonus is worth the price. buy, if it were me personally I would avoid buying and selling accounts, because it is a risky action


Title: Re: Buying and Selling of Casino Accounts (Discussion thread)
Post by: Patikno on February 17, 2024, 08:24:42 PM
- is it right to sell ones casino account, most especially when the account is KYCed?
- Do casinos have any policy against account sells?
- If you have the opportunity of buying a casino account, would you buy or build yours from afresh?
- Would you sell your casino account if you decide to leave gambling completely, most especially, your KYCed account? If yes, how do you trust the buyer?
- Over all, is casino account trading legitimate? If yes, should I create a thread where gamblers can easily post their casino account sell ads?

- Your data is your identity, when you sell your verified account, it is the same as selling your identity, this is not the right thing to do.
- Yes, they have it.

Quote from: Stake.com
4.14 You are prohibited from selling, transferring or acquiring Stake Accounts to or from other Players.
Quote from: BC.GAME
4.2. You are not allowed to transfer, sell and/or acquire, user accounts.

- Buying and selling accounts is the work of account farmers. Honestly, if I can make a profit from it, why should I create a new one?
- If I have financial problems then I will sell it to someone even though I have KYC there, but if I don't experience financial problems and want to get out of gambling, I will choose self-exclusion (Stake has that feature).
- I don't know if that's allowed in this forum, but I think it's better not to make any threads about it, just let the buying and selling of accounts happen outside the forum.


Title: Re: Buying and Selling of Casino Accounts (Discussion thread)
Post by: topbitcoin on February 17, 2024, 08:44:03 PM
Allow me to respond to that. according to my reasoning, It is strongly discouraged to sell casino accounts, as it could be against the rules of the casino itself. Most casinos implement policies that include not allowing users to sell or transfer their accounts, especially if a KYC (Know Your Customer) verification process has already been completed. Account sales can also breach gambling legislation in some places.

When you are able to create a casino account, it would be wiser and better if you develop your own account from the ground up. Security and confidence emanate from having an account that is entirely yours; in contrast, acquiring an account through purchase will never give you the same level of security and confidence.

When you make up your mind to abandon gambling entirely, it is better to close or deactivate the account instead of selling it. The act of trusting people who want to buy your account, especially if they have gone through a KYC process, can also be an issue in itself. In general, trading casino accounts would be a breach of policies set by casinos with possible legal and security implications. Instead, it is advisable to refrain from engaging in such activity and observe the rules as they are provided.


Title: Re: Buying and Selling of Casino Accounts (Discussion thread)
Post by: yahoo62278 on February 17, 2024, 08:45:17 PM
On several occasions, I've come across some individuals in chat groups, mostly on discord, telegram, and in other social groups like on Facebook, reddits advertising their intentions to sell their account on casino, casinos usually ranges from Stake - which is for sure, one of the biggest online casinos if not actually the biggest, to other casinos like BC.game, offer is usually available for mostly; casinos with a VIP ranking system, and the VIP level of the account (and of course the entitled amount of bonus to be received) is what usually determines the amount of money the seller would ask for from bidders.

Now, my question is..
- is it right to sell ones casino account, most especially when the account is KYCed?
- Do casinos have any policy against account sells?
- If you have the opportunity of buying a casino account, would you buy or build yours from afresh?
- Would you sell your casino account if you decide to leave gambling completely, most especially, your KYCed account? If yes, how do you trust the buyer?
- Over all, is casino account trading legitimate? If yes, should I create a thread where gamblers can easily post their casino account sell ads?

Lets make this thread a place to discuss everything related to buying and selling of casino account?

You already know the answer to most of these questions so I am not sure why the need for this thread except to educate(even though those that need educated could care less).

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is it right to sell ones casino account, most especially when the account is KYCed?
Obviously no, you are just allowing someone to circumvent the rules of the casino.

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Do casinos have any policy against account sells?
Yep, most of the casinos are 100% against it.

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If you have the opportunity of buying a casino account, would you buy or build yours from afresh?
What if you won $1 million dollars and they asked you to kyc again? Why risk not getting paid?

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Would you sell your casino account if you decide to leave gambling completely, most especially, your KYCed account? If yes, how do you trust the buyer?
You can never trust the buyer as you have no clue what circumstances may come about. People act differently when they're backed into a corner.

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Over all, is casino account trading legitimate? If yes, should I create a thread where gamblers can easily post their casino account sell ads?
This is never going to be the case so there is no point.

Ok, now that all your questions are answered, I want to add a little. Most people would only be interested in purchasing an account for a few reasons. 1. to collect the weekly/monthly bonus without having to wager(although casinos are changing how much an account earns from not gambling even if VIP). 2. to be able to play because they are banned or from a restricted country. Until countries laws are changed redarding gambling and jurisdictions, this will be a somewhat lucrative market, but what if casinos are given a warrant and all people associated with an IP can or are arrested because of stolen coins or some other reason? Risk outweighs the reward IMO.


Title: Re: Buying and Selling of Casino Accounts (Discussion thread)
Post by: Wiwo on February 17, 2024, 08:53:25 PM
For me,  is not morally right to sell a personal account and both the buyer and the seller are both at risk,  the seller faces the risk of being framed up for a crime that he may not have committed most especially if the casino account is a KYC verified account and the buyer goes on to commit a crime such as an account being used to do money laundering act and the government trace it to the old owner since his documents and other information are used on the account before he sold it.

The buyer also is at risk of losing his money if along the line he runs into any problem on the casino and he need to prove his real ownership of the account,  so the risk in buying and selling of accounts depends on both the buyer and the seller alike.


This is why account sales of any kind are unwelcome to those who already have experience in the industry,  not only casinos account but any form of account dealing is wrong.


Title: Re: Buying and Selling of Casino Accounts (Discussion thread)
Post by: Jating on February 17, 2024, 09:11:22 PM

Now, my question is..
- is it right to sell ones casino account, most especially when the account is KYCed?

There could be reasons why someone will sell his/her accounts. So as for the rights, yes, but the question is that if it allowed?

- Do casinos have any policy against account sells?

Like the signature that you are carrying, you can simply search for their ToS

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4.14 You are prohibited from selling, transferring or acquiring Stake Accounts to or from other Players.

https://stake.com/policies/terms


So I think that already answers your question, it is not allowed by most of the casinos to sell accounts. So gamblers should avoid selling specially buying of accounts, you are putting a lot of risk in your end. And if you are a gambler that follow and play by the rules because you don't want to have issues with your account, it's better to read the Terms and Conditions of the gambling sites, not just for selling or buying accounts.



Title: Re: Buying and Selling of Casino Accounts (Discussion thread)
Post by: Gozie51 on February 17, 2024, 09:15:37 PM

- Would you sell your casino account if you decide to leave gambling completely, most especially, your KYCed account? If yes, how do you trust the buyer?


First, almost all the questions you asked are all risky adventure to take up as far as casino account is concern and KYC on it and that is why I picked this to respond to.

KYC is about an individual's information in the hands of the casino and can go into the public space at the call by any agency of the government so long the casino is regulated. So I think it is risky to sell a casino account that has gone through KYC whether the owner is no longer an active gambler or aged. The point is your data in the public can be used in things incrementing against you or expose your information that you are keeping away from the public.


Title: Re: Buying and Selling of Casino Accounts (Discussion thread)
Post by: Orpichukwu on February 17, 2024, 09:18:40 PM
Selling your casino account that has been KYCed to someone else is the same thing as selling your identity to another person, and the reverse is also the case when you buy such an account.  

Aside from the risk of losing the account immediately, the person makes a big win or deposit as the casino can detect the change of IP address from the login activities of the new account owner, and if other documents are requested to prove ownership of the account, the new owner can't provide them, which will lead to losing the account immediately with whatever is inside.  

Another bad news about that account is that if the old user has used it to commit fraud, which is yet to be detected, that fraud can be traced back to the new owner and also to the old users, which they can track down both who know about the fraud and the person who is insulting is going to pay for it. Looking at it all around, buying a casino account looks entirely like a bad idea to me.


Title: Re: Buying and Selling of Casino Accounts (Discussion thread)
Post by: AmoreJaz on February 17, 2024, 09:20:18 PM
Now, my question is..
- is it right to sell ones casino account, most especially when the account is KYCed?
- Do casinos have any policy against account sells?
- If you have the opportunity of buying a casino account, would you buy or build yours from afresh?
- Would you sell your casino account if you decide to leave gambling completely, most especially, your KYCed account? If yes, how do you trust the buyer?
- Over all, is casino account trading legitimate? If yes, should I create a thread where gamblers can easily post their casino account sell ads?

Lets make this thread a place to discuss everything related to buying and selling of casino account?

first and foremost, i don't think it is good idea for the OP to create a thread where gamblers can do their transaction of buying and selling a casino account. does he really think it is of best interest for the gamblers to create one? for one, you are subjecting a lot of people to fraud.

just think of the possible scenarios that will come out of this situation -
- using someone else's identity, as you already submit KYC to the casino
- there may be no specific policy against account selling, however, when it is time for further verification, how can the buyer provide more proofs if the initial submitted docs are not his?
- it is always best to just start fresh and create your new and own account, at least, any doc or selfie or video call, you don't need to worry as it is your own account from the very beginning
- don't ever think of selling your KYC'd account to anyone, because it means, he is using your identity while playing on a casino. you'll never know what he's gonna do while actively playing and using your account
- i don't think it is legit to sell a casino account by any means. in most ToS of the casinos that i've read, they stated specificially that you should be the owner of your account and they may ask other details, if it is deem necessary


Title: Re: Buying and Selling of Casino Accounts (Discussion thread)
Post by: Stalker22 on February 17, 2024, 10:08:37 PM
Now, my question is..
- is it right to sell ones casino account, most especially when the account is KYCed?

No. I dont think is right. there are ethical and legal risks involved.  The account has your personal identity attached to it, so you could potentially be liable if illegal activities occur later.

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- Do casinos have any policy against account sells?

Yes. Most sites prohibit account transfers in their terms and conditions now. 

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- If you have the opportunity of buying a casino account, would you buy or build yours from afresh?

Actually, I did it once upon a time. In the past, before stringent KYC regulations transferring accounts occurred more freely. But I would not do it again.

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- Would you sell your casino account if you decide to leave gambling completely, most especially, your KYCed account? If yes, how do you trust the buyer?

No. The risks outweigh potential rewards.

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- Over all, is casino account trading legitimate? If yes, should I create a thread where gamblers can easily post their casino account sell ads?

Nope, casino account trading is a no-go.

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Lets make this thread a place to discuss everything related to buying and selling of casino account?

Is that a question?  :D


Title: Re: Buying and Selling of Casino Accounts (Discussion thread)
Post by: SmartGold01 on February 17, 2024, 10:25:40 PM
At first you seller or buyer needs to ask yourself a very important question like; If i buys account from Mr. x and he gives me the login details don't you think after funding the original owner would go change password?

Okay if that isn't enough, don't you think the real own can actually monitor when you have a big winning to get it withdrawn before you? Yes there is every possibility that when you make account and the original mail is with you even though you sells of the account and the account is locked it will only required the real owner to unlock it because he or she has the original details already that is associated with the account hence, if you can't provide exact details that bears the previous owner's name automatically the account is gone.

Then you being the seller, if the account got involved in any AML activity you are a direct person to be track and not the buyer, and of curse you the seller can't go scot free because you will be tracked to home town where you will be arrested for evil activity. That is why I don't encourage account sale be you selling or buying is totally wrong.

The best is for you to look for a web3 based casino where you don't need to reveal your identity or pass through kyc to gamble in such site, and more especially what makes people involves in account buying activity is at a cause of not wanting to reveal their personal document to any casino or gambling site.

Therefore I totally discourage account buying and selling and if you must be safe while gambling, it's better to have your personal details instead of using someone else account that have been verified by them. You can't trust them at any level since there is every possibility for your account to get wiped by the original owner.


Title: Re: Buying and Selling of Casino Accounts (Discussion thread)
Post by: Rruchi man on February 17, 2024, 10:27:00 PM
- Do casinos have any policy against account sells?
Casinos will definitely frown at this, but I'm not sure that they will be able to completely stop it because they may be no method or technology to actually detect that an account has changed hand from the original user to a new user.
- If you have the opportunity of buying a casino account, would you buy or build yours from afresh?
I will not second think the option of building my own account because if I buy an account I do not know the history of the account and the cases that the former account owner has been involved with. Building your own account gives you confidence than buying a gambling account. Also if there's an issue tomorrow concerning the account that requires you to submit some documents again, you may not be able to rectify it because you are not the original user of the account and do not have the original documents that were used to register the account.


Title: Re: Buying and Selling of Casino Accounts (Discussion thread)
Post by: swogerino on February 17, 2024, 11:25:19 PM

The buyers also are aware this is risky that logging in to that bought account would result in getting busted.  Both buyers and sellers are untrustworthy and we know it is not allowed but they created a market for it. Sellers do have the idea of why someone would want to buy an account but if they were selling it still, maybe they are really in need of the money. They have their reasons.

The VIP accounts do have advantages and they get bonuses too which I guess is what interests those buyers.

The VIP bonuses are becoming shittier and shittier with the passing of time even in great casinos.I know that now in most reputable casinos even if you lose a lot of money they will give you something like 2-5 dollars weekly and about 20-70 dollars monthly with 70 being in the very high ranks.These are absolutely not worth risking by buying/selling accounts in the casinos,I know though that some casinos accept alt accounts as I see no other explanation to people sending huge tips to each other out of nowhere without a real reason behind it.

Most people though do not care to buy a casino account as the bonuses of the higher ranks are not worthy at all.


Title: Re: Buying and Selling of Casino Accounts (Discussion thread)
Post by: Weawant on February 17, 2024, 11:45:16 PM
Most casinos don't get to know that their casino accounts are been sold at times, provided the new person who got the account still abide by the casinos rules and never give them a reason to think about investing such account because that's the only means to know the original owner will be to investigate.

Selling account is actually a bad and prohibited practice a d this prohibition is common amongst other platforms too because some persons literally use these bought account to perpetuate evil and at the end of the day they will trace to the address of the provided document which was on the account because it has been kyced . It's very unsafe and not a practice to encourage because it will only cause more harm than good to both the buy


Title: Re: Buying and Selling of Casino Accounts (Discussion thread)
Post by: PytagoraZ on February 18, 2024, 01:53:22 AM
Now, my question is..
- is it right to sell ones casino account, most especially when the account is KYCed?
- Do casinos have any policy against account sells?
- If you have the opportunity of buying a casino account, would you buy or build yours from afresh?
- Would you sell your casino account if you decide to leave gambling completely, most especially, your KYCed account? If yes, how do you trust the buyer?
- Over all, is casino account trading legitimate? If yes, should I create a thread where gamblers can easily post their casino account sell ads?

Lets make this thread a place to discuss everything related to buying and selling of casino account?

~ This is an incorrect action, and is dangerous. If the account has been KYC, it can be misused by the account buyer
~ I don't know about this, but if the casino finds out I'm sure the account will be banned
~ Maybe I would prefer to buy it, because of the VIP benefits... lol  :D (But I knew it was the wrong thing to do, so I didn't do it)
~ No
~ Of course it's not legal

I have never bought or sold a casino account, but I once borrowed my friend's account because he already had a fairly high VIP level. But I do that when I'm with him


Title: Re: Buying and Selling of Casino Accounts (Discussion thread)
Post by: iv4n on February 18, 2024, 08:28:02 AM
- If you have the opportunity of buying a casino account, would you buy or build yours from afresh?

It seems like buying a casino account these days, ads for sale are everywhere, on this forum, Telegram, Twitter, etc. I believe that most of them are scams, they offer something illegal and what can the customer do after that? Who should he complain to when he is cheated?

There are benefits for VIP players, but those benefits come with additional wagering. So just buying an account is meaningless, it's better to build your loyalty from the start, we get prizes for leveling up, we can get some other prizes from wagering we have, and in the end, it's our account and we are legit & fair players... if something goes wrong we have every right to complain about it and seek/get some help.


Title: Re: Buying and Selling of Casino Accounts (Discussion thread)
Post by: Yatsan on February 18, 2024, 08:40:46 AM
On several occasions, I've come across some individuals in chat groups, mostly on discord, telegram, and in other social groups like on Facebook, reddits advertising their intentions to sell their account on casino, casinos usually ranges from Stake - which is for sure, one of the biggest online casinos if not actually the biggest, to other casinos like BC.game, offer is usually available for mostly; casinos with a VIP ranking system, and the VIP level of the account (and of course the entitled amount of bonus to be received) is what usually determines the amount of money the seller would ask for from bidders.

Now, my question is..
- is it right to sell ones casino account, most especially when the account is KYCed?
- Do casinos have any policy against account sells?
- If you have the opportunity of buying a casino account, would you buy or build yours from afresh?
- Would you sell your casino account if you decide to leave gambling completely, most especially, your KYCed account? If yes, how do you trust the buyer?
- Over all, is casino account trading legitimate? If yes, should I create a thread where gamblers can easily post their casino account sell ads?

Lets make this thread a place to discuss everything related to buying and selling of casino account?
More likely there are rules restricting such instance among gamblers in every gambling platform. Also, there's a risk and I won't have thoughts of buying someone else's account just because of KYC requirements. Personally, I'm fine submitting or complying to KYC procedures. The risk I mentioned is unauthorized access with the account simply because they have access with back up emails, we just cannot tell given that the seller owns it in the first place. I won't risk my funds for this one. If you are not okay with KYC requirements then there are other sites you can choose from which does not require such procedure. Treat your gambling site account as a bank simply because it holds your funds whenever you are gambling. Selling mine won't be a good option because it could be involved with unwanted activities and take note of your personal identity which is binder with the account itself.


Title: Re: Buying and Selling of Casino Accounts (Discussion thread)
Post by: Bitinity on February 18, 2024, 08:43:53 AM
- is it right to sell ones casino account, most especially when the account is KYCed?
It is not, but in fact there are some people who try to sell their casino accounts out there. What is being offered is mostly because the account is in a high level and may get benefits from the casino.

- Do casinos have any policy against account sells?
Most casinos against account sells, once the casino detect it then the account(s) might be banned. Most casinos put this rules in their ToS but there are also some casinos that has no written rules about it.

- If you have the opportunity of buying a casino account, would you buy or build yours from afresh?
What would be a good reason for me to buy a casino account? Most sellers offer with an expensive price which can be something not worth to buy. Even if the casino provide  bonuses for high rank account but if the account is already inactive for long time then the bonus will be low or even gone.

- Would you sell your casino account if you decide to leave gambling completely, most especially, your KYCed account? If yes, how do you trust the buyer?
Nope, having KYCed or not, I will not sell my casino accounts unless someone want to buy it $1m lol (kidding).


Title: Re: Buying and Selling of Casino Accounts (Discussion thread)
Post by: Natsuu on February 18, 2024, 08:45:07 AM
We know selling casino accounts is risky business like it usually breaks the rules set by platforms and messes with ID verification stuff. You might end up with a suspended account or even legal trouble so starting fresh is the safer bet, playing by the rules and avoiding the headaches that come with buying or selling accounts. Thats for me


Title: Re: Buying and Selling of Casino Accounts (Discussion thread)
Post by: danherbias07 on February 18, 2024, 08:56:25 AM
On several occasions, I've come across some individuals in chat groups, mostly on discord, telegram, and in other social groups like on Facebook, reddits advertising their intentions to sell their account on casino, casinos usually ranges from Stake - which is for sure, one of the biggest online casinos if not actually the biggest, to other casinos like BC.game, offer is usually available for mostly; casinos with a VIP ranking system, and the VIP level of the account (and of course the entitled amount of bonus to be received) is what usually determines the amount of money the seller would ask for from bidders.
I've seen this too, mostly in Telegram so they can hide their identities, but I doubt they are legitimate sellers and it's prone to a big scam.

Now, my question is..
- is it right to sell ones casino account, most especially when the account is KYCed?
They are going to be in big trouble if something goes wrong and they cannot withdraw. There's a possibility their accounts will be locked if the first owner won't provide the details. So, it's a no go for KYCed accounts.

- Do casinos have any policy against account sells?
Sure thing and it's written in the Terms of Service.
Here.
https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/02/18/YQFvg.png
https://stake.com/policies/terms

- If you have the opportunity of buying a casino account, would you buy or build yours from afresh?
No, I'd rather build it from scratch.
As I said in the first one, you may bump into troubles if you are handling an account that is not really yours and it could end up your account being locked with the funds in it. That will be a lot of regrets if it happens and I don't want to be in that position so I'd rather just grind it out making into higher VIP ranks.

- Would you sell your casino account if you decide to leave gambling completely, most especially, your KYCed account? If yes, how do you trust the buyer?
No, I don't think I will. First, there's a lot of delicate information in the account and I don't want anyone to have access on it because they might find a way to open my other accounts or they will can use for other evil intentions.

- Over all, is casino account trading legitimate? If yes, should I create a thread where gamblers can easily post their casino account sell ads?

Lets make this thread a place to discuss everything related to buying and selling of casino account?
No, I don't think it is. Those who will buy accounts might have other evil reasons why they are doing it. Money laundering, that's first. Because the account has wagered enough, they can now get in and out even if they will do just a little wager, or maybe even none.
Imagine if this account is traced and your name is written all over it, what do think will be the next thing to happen? Ouch!

Let's keep it safe, don't sell our accounts, and let us not make it appealing to them because scammers are in the shadows who will do the same and maybe use our account to sell it, even if they don't have any access to it.


Title: Re: Buying and Selling of Casino Accounts (Discussion thread)
Post by: dimonstration on February 18, 2024, 09:01:53 AM

Now, my question is..
- is it right to sell ones casino account, most especially when the account is KYCed?
- Do casinos have any policy against account sells?
- If you have the opportunity of buying a casino account, would you buy or build yours from afresh?
- Would you sell your casino account if you decide to leave gambling completely, most especially, your KYCed account? If yes, how do you trust the buyer?
- Over all, is casino account trading legitimate? If yes, should I create a thread where gamblers can easily post their casino account sell ads?

Lets make this thread a place to discuss everything related to buying and selling of casino account?

Casino account selling is strictly prohibited since it’s non-transferable according to the ToS of most casino I’m using. Selling of account is very dangerous regardless if KYC or not since there’s an IP login records which casino tracks to determine whether the account change hands or not.

Buying account is very risky despite some casino provides weekly and monthly reloads for high level VIP players. You will never know when will your account will be close plus the value of casino account with high VIP level is expensive which is why it’s still better to start fresh instead of buying someone account. Lastly, you will never use its benefits if you don’t bet like high rollers.


Title: Re: Buying and Selling of Casino Accounts (Discussion thread)
Post by: mirakal on February 18, 2024, 09:11:14 AM
This is too risky and will end up with the account holder in trouble. Those who are selling their accounts may have just stolen the identity they use to verify their account. If it is really them, they would not try to sell it since it's too risky. Just imagine what would happen if that account were used for money laundering; the owner of that account would be in big trouble.

Although the idea is understandable that some may choose to buy an account since they can't pass the KYC and want to gamble on a certain site, that comes with the risk, and it's not advisable. There's a legal risk that's too high; one could end up in jail. It's better not to try it than be sorry.


Title: Re: Buying and Selling of Casino Accounts (Discussion thread)
Post by: madnessteat on February 18, 2024, 09:16:25 AM
~snip~

Never bought or sold my accounts as it is very risky. If you buy an account, you run the risk of losing it and the funds stored in it after requesting a KYC re-run. And this happens a lot.

If you sell your account, you run the risk of receiving a tax notice for your winnings, even though you won't have the winnings themselves. In addition, your account could be used for fraud, which could cause problems. Think twice before buying and selling accounts.


Title: Re: Buying and Selling of Casino Accounts (Discussion thread)
Post by: Beparanf on February 18, 2024, 09:22:43 AM

There are benefits for VIP players, but those benefits come with additional wagering. So just buying an account is meaningless, it's better to build your loyalty from the start, we get prizes for leveling up, we can get some other prizes from wagering we have, and in the end, it's our account and we are legit & fair players... if something goes wrong we have every right to complain about it and seek/get some help.

The main target market of this account sales are those newly whales that want to try new casino since high rank account usually have better rakeback percentage which means they can earn a lot even if they are just starting compared when they start fresh. You can also add the special features exclusive to high rank that’s why this account selling becomes popular right now.

You’re right the buying this account is pointless if you will bet like a regular gamblers since it requires high volume of wagering in able to maximize the benefits of this account.


Title: Re: Buying and Selling of Casino Accounts (Discussion thread)
Post by: Potato Chips on February 18, 2024, 09:35:56 AM
On several occasions, I've come across some individuals in chat groups, mostly on discord, telegram, and in other social groups like on Facebook, reddits advertising their intentions to sell their account on casino

Lol so true, the business has been flourishing lol. The buying and selling of accounts on stake.com even made it on news outlets lol, see: Access to illegal crypto casino sites for sale on Facebook and Discord for as little as £8 (https://news.sky.com/story/access-to-illegal-crypto-casino-sites-for-sale-on-facebook-and-discord-for-as-little-as-8-13056186)

Now, my question is..
- is it right to sell ones casino account, most especially when the account is KYCed?
- Do casinos have any policy against account sells?
- Over all, is casino account trading legitimate? If yes, should I create a thread where gamblers can easily post their casino account sell ads?

Whenever I read the terms of service of any popular fintech service e.g. exchanges, casinos, banks, etc. they prohibit using another person's identity that is not yours so I'm pretty sure such policy is standard to KYC/AML. It makes sense because buying/selling accounts makes it easier for bad actors to bypass restrictions or abuse the platform. I say let's not encourage people to buy kyc'd accounts.

Would you sell your casino account if you decide to leave gambling completely, most especially, your KYCed account? If yes, how do you trust the buyer?

Absolutely not lol because who knows for what purpose it will be used. It's worth noting that a company operating multiple casinos may group data so if for instance my kyc'd account got associated with someone multi-accounting to abuse bonuses in one casino, I'm pretty much then blacklisted in other casinos they operate.

Lets make this thread a place to discuss everything related to buying and selling of casino account?

Sounds good! I feel like it's a topic that could get developments over time 🤔


Title: Re: Buying and Selling of Casino Accounts (Discussion thread)
Post by: ethereumhunter on February 18, 2024, 09:50:24 AM
Selling a casino account that has been KYC'd is detrimental to someone who wants to buy it because the account was KYC'd by someone else. The casinos are bound to find out sooner or later, but maybe they are still letting this happen to see how far they take their casinos. If they continue to break the rules, the casino will take strict action against them and not allow them to gamble on its premises. I will not sell my account even though it has not reached VIP status, and I also have no intention of reaching VIP status because I am not an active gambler.

Those who buy a VIP account only want to get VIP members' bonuses. But there may be other terms and conditions before getting those bonuses.


Title: Re: Buying and Selling of Casino Accounts (Discussion thread)
Post by: joeperry on February 18, 2024, 10:03:54 AM
First of all, based on many gambling sites that I have visited and based on the terms and condition buying or selling or simply trading an account is illegal and would let your account be banned and even confiscate on whatever man you have in that account.

Even if I have a lot of money I won't be risking it in buying an account. As you can see they have a log of an IP address on where the player is playing and if they manage to see a different behavior with that account or trying to access it in different IP address, they have the rights confiscate any amount in that account and block you.

Lastly, I will not sell my account because of the risk that they might have used my personal information not just in casino but in other shady things and I don't think you should have a different thread for buying and selling a casino accounts because just like what I have said it is unethical and most of the gambling site don't allow this. So, if you open up a thread like that It would be a risk for the seller and also for the buyer.


Title: Re: Buying and Selling of Casino Accounts (Discussion thread)
Post by: Hirose UK on February 18, 2024, 10:34:05 AM
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The VIP bonuses are becoming shittier and shittier with the passing of time even in great casinos.I know that now in most reputable casinos even if you lose a lot of money they will give you something like 2-5 dollars weekly and about 20-70 dollars monthly with 70 being in the very high ranks.These are absolutely not worth risking by buying/selling accounts in the casinos,I know though that some casinos accept alt accounts as I see no other explanation to people sending huge tips to each other out of nowhere without a real reason behind it.

Most people though do not care to buy a casino account as the bonuses of the higher ranks are not worthy at all.
This amount can also decrease or increase depending on how much money is deposited to play, if the account is used more often to gamble large amounts, you can get bigger VIP bonus.
It just that everything will never be as expected, no matter how big the VIP bonus given by the casino for each week and month will never be able to cover the losses incurred, but it will only be like small return.
However, for those of us who don't really care about profits, whatever we get is not problem because we will just gamble and have fun, if we get bonus then that is additional capital to be able to have fun without depositing money.

In context like this, some people take advantage of the VIP level to be able to set the selling price of casino accounts at higher price, the higher the VIP, the higher the selling price.
This is quite strange because I think that buying casino account that already has VIP rank is also pointless because if you only bet small amount then the bonus that can be claimed is also the same, namely quite small amount of money.


Title: Re: Buying and Selling of Casino Accounts (Discussion thread)
Post by: angrybirdy on February 18, 2024, 10:55:32 AM

Now, my question is..
- is it right to sell ones casino account, most especially when the account is KYCed?
- Do casinos have any policy against account sells?
- If you have the opportunity of buying a casino account, would you buy or build yours from afresh?
- Would you sell your casino account if you decide to leave gambling completely, most especially, your KYCed account? If yes, how do you trust the buyer?
- Over all, is casino account trading legitimate? If yes, should I create a thread where gamblers can easily post their casino account sell ads?

Lets make this thread a place to discuss everything related to buying and selling of casino account?

Based on my understanding, It is not allowed to sell or trade any casino accounts to other people, especially that it is KYCed because anytime it can be reported as stolen account or fraud, especially if the intention of the seller is to defraud the buyer.
Besides, if it's an account and there's money involved and other important personal details are registered in the account, shouldn't we be more careful or shouldn't we just sell our accounts unless you're using a fake identity? The rules also include that such transactions are not really allowed, so it's much better not to risk your money.


Title: Re: Buying and Selling of Casino Accounts (Discussion thread)
Post by: Wexnident on February 18, 2024, 10:57:36 AM
- is it right to sell ones casino account, most especially when the account is KYCed?
I think you've pointed it out already, accounts are most likely to be tied to your identity so I don't think it's proper to sell it. In the first place, I think it's really dumb for someone to sell their casino account especially if said identity tied was theirs. And if we're talking about hackers, I don't think they'd really give a damn on whose identity is with the account really.

- Do casinos have any policy against account sells?
As far as I know, no. I think it's because they're KYC rules already, in some sense, touch upon it? In some sense them saying you can't use another account or you applying for KYC is basically them saying you can't use any other account, that includes ones being sold.

- If you have the opportunity of buying a casino account, would you buy or build yours from afresh?
Build afresh. I still see no reason why you'd want to buy an account since if you wanted the benefits, you can build it up yourself in the long run since, well, it's designed to give you rewards in the long run.

- Would you sell your casino account if you decide to leave gambling completely, most especially, your KYCed account? If yes, how do you trust the buyer?
Nope. No way in hell.

- Over all, is casino account trading legitimate? If yes, should I create a thread where gamblers can easily post their casino account sell ads?
Definitely not. There's probably some loopholes that allow it to happen and for account buyers to be safe, but hell if the casino finds out then say goodbye to it lol.


Title: Re: Buying and Selling of Casino Accounts (Discussion thread)
Post by: Rufsilf on February 18, 2024, 11:22:31 AM
Now, my question is..
- is it right to sell ones casino account, most especially when the account is KYCed?
No, I don't think it's a good idea for us to sell our casino account, especially if it's KYCed, since it might produce a lot of unethical and legal problems that could endanger both ourselves and other people. Like we can never predict what the future holds.

- Do casinos have any policy against account sells?
Of course, yeah. Their agreements and services make this clear, which is why they use KYC to guard against fraud and, of course, guarantee platform security.

- If you have the opportunity of buying a casino account, would you buy or build yours from afresh?
Nope I wont buy an account because I don’t want things to get complicated because I may not know its history or whether it has been involved in fraudulent activities.

- Would you sell your casino account if you decide to leave gambling completely, most especially, your KYCed account? If yes, how do you trust the buyer?
To be honest, I don't plan to sell my account because I have no idea what the buyer would use it for. I just keep it there.

Lets make this thread a place to discuss everything related to buying and selling of casino account?
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Yes, so that we may read other people's perspectives on how they plan to respond to this kind of topic.


Title: Re: Buying and Selling of Casino Accounts (Discussion thread)
Post by: dimonstration on February 18, 2024, 11:45:25 AM
This is quite strange because I think that buying casino account that already has VIP rank is also pointless because if you only bet small amount then the bonus that can be claimed is also the same, namely quite small amount of money.

Don’t expect a shrimp gambler will purchased this account not only it’s pointless for them due to their small bankroll but also the price of this account is expensive which means they can’t afford it.

This kind of account only target buyer with deep pockets not the small ones since there’s really no point on using this account because they can’t maximize its benefits. I will be happy to use this VIP account because I wager decent amount but I will not dare to purchase an account that can be retrieve by the original owner once reported to the support.


Title: Re: Buying and Selling of Casino Accounts (Discussion thread)
Post by: Strongkored on February 18, 2024, 11:45:31 AM
Now, my question is..
- is it right to sell ones casino account, most especially when the account is KYCed?
I don't really know for sure about this but it seems that casinos will prohibit this kind of practice because there is a chance of abuse, because it is impossible for anyone to want to buy and sell casino accounts if there is no benefit to be gained but these benefits will usually be against the casino rules

- Do casinos have any policy against account sells?
The answer must be sought in the terms and conditions of the casino

- If you have the opportunity of buying a casino account, would you buy or build yours from afresh?
I'm not interested and in my opinion the people who want to buy a casino account are those who are said the high roller category or are used to gambling thousands or tens of thousands of dollars not just hundreds of dollars, so small gamblers like me certainly don't feel the need to do it or are interested in buying one.

- Would you sell your casino account if you decide to leave gambling completely, most especially, your KYCed account? If yes, how do you trust the buyer?
If the casino account has done complete KYC, I would prefer to make it unactive because it might be dangerous for us if it is used for things that are against the law, especially casinos usually also have a delete account feature or the account is inactive for several months or years will be automatically deleted in their system.


Title: Re: Buying and Selling of Casino Accounts (Discussion thread)
Post by: Die_empty on February 18, 2024, 12:54:08 PM
Now, my question is..
- is it right to sell ones casino account, most especially when the account is KYCed?
- Do casinos have any policy against account sells?
- If you have the opportunity of buying a casino account, would you buy or build yours from afresh?
- Would you sell your casino account if you decide to leave gambling completely, most especially, your KYCed account? If yes, how do you trust the buyer?
- Over all, is casino account trading legitimate? If yes, should I create a thread where gamblers can easily post their casino account sell ads?

Lets make this thread a place to discuss everything related to buying and selling of casino account?
Most of these people that offer or sell casino accounts are not to be trusted. It is possible that most of these accounts they are offering for sale might have some problems and they just want to dispose of them. On the other hand, anyone who buys a casino account might also be targeting to use it fraudulently.  Selling a casino account is wrong and very risky for both the seller and the buyer. Registration for these casinos is very easy, so there is no need to buy an account. I will never buy an account from anybody because you might not know the history of the account and the casinos might later ask for KYC.

Selling my account is what I will never do considering that I have undergone KYC. If the new buyer uses the account for criminal actions like money laundering, they would now trace the crime to me. Doing such will be against the terms of service of most casinos and might even lead to litigation. Even if I am leaving gambling for life, my KYC with the casino can lead to problems. There is no need to create a thread where gamblers can trade accounts because it is not an acceptable practice.


Title: Re: Buying and Selling of Casino Accounts (Discussion thread)
Post by: Lida93 on February 19, 2024, 07:27:20 AM

Now, my question is..
- is it right to sell ones casino account, most especially when the account is KYCed?
- Do casinos have any policy against account sells?
- If you have the opportunity of buying a casino account, would you buy or build yours from afresh?
- Would you sell your casino account if you decide to leave gambling completely, most especially, your KYCed account? If yes, how do you trust the buyer?

* Selling ones account isn't only wrong but extremely risky to both the buyer and the seller.  How about in the process of running the account if it's been bought and some deposit probably made or a huge win is made and you are required to pass KYC, how do you the buyer plan on taking care of that situation when the account opening kyc doesn't match with that of yours as the new owner now. Onto that seller, the seller could also face the risk of his sold account that is with his details being used for fraudulent activities of financial crime of money laundering and you find yourself in police net for something you know nothing of.

* I think this is something that could compromise casino's security in terms of dealing with imposters and impersonation as a result of account selling and as such they wouldn't be a party to it and will ultimately have a policy against account selling. Maybe if we could do well to read through their ToS we can find it laying there.

* What does it really take to building your own account, for crying out loud we don't get charged for opening new account account with a casino so why take the risk of buying an account when you can also build yours with time to such VIP rank even more above with repute than that which you would be risking to buy.

* Just as in my second comment  I placed the risk of selling account on both parties I won't sell my account,. If am staying away from gambling then I should be doing that for good by staying of completely by requesting the casino to closed down my account. The money I'll want to make by selling the account could also put me into bigger risk if am unlucky to have sold it to the wrong entity. And one important thing we are omitting here is that it's like transferring your data to a total stranger exposing your privacy to an unknown person and living by the mercy of the person not to use your account that is with your details to commit crime that will involve you.


Title: Re: Buying and Selling of Casino Accounts (Discussion thread)
Post by: CODE200 on February 19, 2024, 07:39:54 AM
@bitbollo already said what needs to be said, I think that if anything that involves your identity and money then it's not a good idea to sell them because you might not know it but it's fraud all the way because other people are using an account that have your identification and when they do something malicious like using that account for money laundering, now when the case that your account will be investigated, you'd be booked for abetting the crime by selling your account, you can never defend yourself by saying that you didn't know because ignorance of the law is not an excuse. You also should consider reporting the Telegram page OP because that's definitely a den of money launderers and you're probably going to get a hefty reward if you do so, be careful about the report though.


Title: Re: Buying and Selling of Casino Accounts (Discussion thread)
Post by: STT on February 19, 2024, 07:41:08 AM
Very dangerous thing to be involved in and sure its not a surprise to me.  I would estimate every single account for any site on the net is possibly traded back and forth by various groups of people interested in its usage.   You dont have actual ownership rights, there is no legal space for trading of random accounts and it might easily be illegal to the point of prison in your country depending on the depth of deception and/or money involved even with crypto this is true.   I only think this lax attitude came about from people sharing the details to watch films and videos online and then its become a thing where you get hold of and share anything at all but when its involving money or assets its quite serious I think.    Expect to be in trouble, I dont think its too much more complicated then that, the ultimate worth is zero because it wont be returned to anyone who isnt the registered owner so that's how I'd class it personally.


Title: Re: Buying and Selling of Casino Accounts (Discussion thread)
Post by: davis196 on February 19, 2024, 07:42:25 AM
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- is it right to sell ones casino account, most especially when the account is KYCed?
- Do casinos have any policy against account sells?
- If you have the opportunity of buying a casino account, would you buy or build yours from afresh?
- Would you sell your casino account if you decide to leave gambling completely, most especially, your KYCed account? If yes, how do you trust the buyer?
- Over all, is casino account trading legitimate? If yes, should I create a thread where gamblers can easily post their casino account sell ads?

1.Why don't you read the Terms of Service of most crypto casinos. This will answer your questions.
2.No. I wouldn't buy casino accounts. There's no point spending money on this sh*t, since the account can be banned in no time.
The casino customer support can see that the user is logging in from a different IP address. Isn't this suspicious?
3.No, account trading isn't legitimate. I guess that many scammers are selling "VIP accounts" on some shady social media groups and the people should be aware about those scams.


Title: Re: Buying and Selling of Casino Accounts (Discussion thread)
Post by: KiaKia on February 19, 2024, 07:46:11 AM
The terms and condition of the casino will sooner or later punish you, because most ToS I have seen forbids buying and selling of accounts, they will just wait for you to mess up and they will punish you even if you have money in the account, you may not be able to recover the money ever again.

Also if the account is already KYC'ed that even makes you a stupid person if you but such account, because as soon as you take over, your location will be different, and if they block your account due to strange activities how will you defend yourself when they ask you for proof of ownership?

My advice is avoid such nonsense, if you want to build a casino account so as to get some levels and offers then do it yourself, stop creating chances for problems to yourself in the future, I have never had any problem with any online casinos and I meant to keep it that way.


Title: Re: Buying and Selling of Casino Accounts (Discussion thread)
Post by: Quidat on February 19, 2024, 07:51:24 AM
On several occasions, I've come across some individuals in chat groups, mostly on discord, telegram, and in other social groups like on Facebook, reddits advertising their intentions to sell their account on casino, casinos usually ranges from Stake - which is for sure, one of the biggest online casinos if not actually the biggest, to other casinos like BC.game, offer is usually available for mostly; casinos with a VIP ranking system, and the VIP level of the account (and of course the entitled amount of bonus to be received) is what usually determines the amount of money the seller would ask for from bidders.

Now, my question is..
- is it right to sell ones casino account, most especially when the account is KYCed?
- Do casinos have any policy against account sells?
- If you have the opportunity of buying a casino account, would you buy or build yours from afresh?
- Would you sell your casino account if you decide to leave gambling completely, most especially, your KYCed account? If yes, how do you trust the buyer?
- Over all, is casino account trading legitimate? If yes, should I create a thread where gamblers can easily post their casino account sell ads?

Lets make this thread a place to discuss everything related to buying and selling of casino account?

- Depends if its not stated on terms and conditions of Stake then selling should be fine, it would really be just that depending whether you can afford on exposing your identity and putting up yourself
on potential trouble once that next user would be doing something shady.

-Creating new accounts is easy as pie, so multi account or purchased ones is something that out of platforms awareness.

-Nope, always build from fresh.I dont like on trying to play someone on using others account

-Nope, specially if its KYC'ed. I would just let it site idle.

-Im not totally aware about account sales on gambling platforms which we know this considered to be a personal and i dont
really get the point on doing so.


Title: Re: Buying and Selling of Casino Accounts (Discussion thread)
Post by: Mauser on February 19, 2024, 09:40:43 AM

Now, my question is..
- is it right to sell ones casino account, most especially when the account is KYCed?
- Do casinos have any policy against account sells?
- If you have the opportunity of buying a casino account, would you buy or build yours from afresh?
- Would you sell your casino account if you decide to leave gambling completely, most especially, your KYCed account? If yes, how do you trust the buyer?
- Over all, is casino account trading legitimate? If yes, should I create a thread where gamblers can easily post their casino account sell ads?

Lets make this thread a place to discuss everything related to buying and selling of casino account?

I would be very careful when it comes to buying or selling gambling accounts that are KYCed. Just recently I got asked by a casino where I gamble for several years and where my account is already KYC verified, to re-upload my documents. I am not sure if this was something special to my account or for all users. Imagine being a situation where you don't use your own account. The risk of the account being locked and losing all my money would be too high. Also selling your account could lead to problem, if your account is being misused for money laundering. In the end it's our name on the account and we could be liable for any criminal activities. The question would be how much money is being paid for the accounts and does it really make sense. Creating our own new account has the benefit of getting welcome bonuses from the casino.


Title: Re: Buying and Selling of Casino Accounts (Discussion thread)
Post by: Solosanz on February 19, 2024, 10:33:22 AM
I believe there's no casino allow to buy and sell accounts, they didn't even allow a changed hands accounts e.g. it's owned by an old person, but the son is using it and tipster e.g. someone who bet for other people.

-Im not totally aware about account sales on gambling platforms which we know this considered to be a personal and i dont
really get the point on doing so.
They can get benefit of higher rakeback, promotions and other privilege if the account was a high roller. There's always a benefit, if not no one will want to buy someone else account.


Title: Re: Buying and Selling of Casino Accounts (Discussion thread)
Post by: justdimin on February 20, 2024, 11:12:40 AM
- is it right to sell ones casino account, most especially when the account is KYCed?
No, I believe there must be some strict policy against this and even if there isn't, who in the world would sell their KYCed account? I mean after submitting their original and legit documents, who will risk by exposing their original identity.

- Do casinos have any policy against account sells?
They must have a policy against it. I'm pretty sure that the accounts that are found changing hands are banned immediately with no unbanning at all. They might even report it to authorities.

- If you have the opportunity of buying a casino account, would you buy or build yours from afresh?
I would never buy an account even if it has a high VIP level. I wonder what the buyers would do if the casino asked for extra verification at some point. I read on many topic here about such additional verification process when gamblers win some decent amount and/or their IP country changes.

- Would you sell your casino account if you decide to leave gambling completely, most especially, your KYCed account? If yes, how do you trust the buyer?
No, I would rather keep it or get it deactivated by contacting casino customer support.

- Over all, is casino account trading legitimate? If yes, should I create a thread where gamblers can easily post their casino account sell ads? 
It isn't legitimate and you can get in trouble for trying to do something like that. If it was okay for people to give their accounts to others, I guess the original purpose of KYC would become complete void. If account trading become casual then I guess some other procedures will be added by casino in addition to current KYC process for preventing KYCed account trading.


Title: Re: Buying and Selling of Casino Accounts (Discussion thread)
Post by: Crypt0Gore on February 20, 2024, 12:59:24 PM
It's buyers at their own risk  ;D

Because anything can happen to a account that you purchased from someone, I called it a stupid thing to do.

It's always against their policies, few terms of services that I have read doesn't accept, even jumping from one location to another, from VPN users can end up in getting your account banned.

I know that old casino account have higher rate of offers and other opportunities but it's not worth it if the account doesn't originally your own, rank or level the account up yourself if that's your goal, don't buy from anyone or else you will see how frustrated you will be when they find out.


Title: Re: Buying and Selling of Casino Accounts (Discussion thread)
Post by: Webetcoins on February 20, 2024, 05:59:24 PM

The buyers also are aware this is risky that logging in to that bought account would result in getting busted.  Both buyers and sellers are untrustworthy and we know it is not allowed but they created a market for it. Sellers do have the idea of why someone would want to buy an account but if they were selling it still, maybe they are really in need of the money. They have their reasons.

The VIP accounts do have advantages and they get bonuses too which I guess is what interests those buyers.
Well, like they say, no risk no reward and then there might still be some practice that they do to ensure the safety of both parties. You already said that both parties have their own reasons but both are for the sake of earning money. People need money mostly for the good stuffs, so I won't immediately judge them and say that both are untrustworthy. Maybe on some gambling sites this kind of practice is legal?

And they think this makes them in-demand because sellers are going to work their account because they know there is also a demand for it and then buyers will use the account to play there. I won't say that they will only wait for the bonus without depositing as it may not get delivered or they will only get lesser amounts.


Title: Re: Buying and Selling of Casino Accounts (Discussion thread)
Post by: Antotena on February 20, 2024, 06:41:47 PM
Now, my question is..
- is it right to sell ones casino account, most especially when the account is KYCed?
- Do casinos have any policy against account sells?
- If you have the opportunity of buying a casino account, would you buy or build yours from afresh?
- Would you sell your casino account if you decide to leave gambling completely, most especially, your KYCed account? If yes, how do you trust the buyer?
- Over all, is casino account trading legitimate? If yes, should I create a thread where gamblers can easily post their casino account sell ads?

Lets make this thread a place to discuss everything related to buying and selling of casino account?

If KYC is mandatory for an account to be eligible for something in the casino platform, then the casino did it for a reason and it's a big crime for anyone to sabotage such privileged in the name of buying account from another person because you are claiming accounts that is not under your name, that's pretense and false claim of profile that you are not.

As for the policy, they should have one that prohibit such act. If they ban users and stopped them from playing and withdrawing due to having multiple accounts, then I think this one will be a big crime to casinos.

I would rather build my account than buy one because of one benefits. Some days ago, my OKX account that I have registered and verified long time ago, I abandoned it but when I wanted to use it as of recent, I was asked to verify with basic things to match my previous details. If it was a bought account, there is no way that I can prove the ownership, this can happen in casino account too.


Title: Re: Buying and Selling of Casino Accounts (Discussion thread)
Post by: acroman08 on February 20, 2024, 07:50:49 PM
- is it right to sell ones casino account, most especially when the account is KYCed?
it's up to the owner whether they want to sell their account that has passed KYC

- Do casinos have any policy against account sells?
as far as I know, casinos have a rule about only the owner of the account(the one who verified the account) is allowed to use it, so if the casino finds out that the account has been sold there is a high chance that the account will be closed.

- If you have the opportunity of buying a casino account, would you buy or build yours from afresh?
No, I just feel like buying a casino account is extremely risky.

- Would you sell your casino account if you decide to leave gambling completely, most especially, your KYCed account? If yes, how do you trust the buyer?
No, I'd most likely just stop using it.

- Over all, is casino account trading legitimate? If yes, should I create a thread where gamblers can easily post their casino account sell ads?
as I have mentioned before, I remember reading on casino terms and conditions(not just one casino ToS) where they mentioned that only the owner of the account is allowed to use it, so if an account has been found out that it was sold, it will most likely get closed


Title: Re: Buying and Selling of Casino Accounts (Discussion thread)
Post by: Hispo on February 20, 2024, 09:43:48 PM
To me it is obvious any service which requires to go through Know Your Client process is not supposed to be neither shared or sold for any reason. Most casinos and exchanges have made very clear in their Terms of Service that accounts are individual and are not transferable between any parties whatsoever.
Even if I was tempted to, I would never sell any exchange or casino accounts to anyone, it would only risk my personal account and the possibility of ever getting another chance to be admitted into the same website again.

Actually, there has been some scam going on with Binance accounts. Scammers or money launderers try to lure people into giving access to their Binance accounts offering some money for it. It has become serious enough for Binance itself to publicly bring awareness of the problem, so people are less likely to fall for it.

https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/02/20/YEQwc.jpeg


As a rule of thumb, it is better never to share one's account, not even with friends. It could lead to bans and loss of assets, both in casinos and exchanges.


Title: Re: Buying and Selling of Casino Accounts (Discussion thread)
Post by: arimamib on February 20, 2024, 10:15:31 PM
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Well, like they say, no risk no reward and then there might still be some practice that they do to ensure the safety of both parties. You already said that both parties have their own reasons but both are for the sake of earning money. People need money mostly for the good stuffs, so I won't immediately judge them and say that both are untrustworthy. Maybe on some gambling sites this kind of practice is legal?

And they think this makes them in-demand because sellers are going to work their account because they know there is also a demand for it and then buyers will use the account to play there. I won't say that they will only wait for the bonus without depositing as it may not get delivered or they will only get lesser amounts.
The idea to engage in certain risky behaviors, such as gambling or account sharing, might be justified by the potential rewards involved. Both parties involved may have their reasons for participating, such as earning money, but there would be ethical implications of their actions. Engaging in practices like account sharing or exploiting loopholes in gambling sites may not only be against the terms of service but also carry legal and moral risks.

Legality does not always equate to ethical behavior. Just because certain practices might be allowed on some gambling sites does not necessarily make them morally acceptable or safe. Being "in-demand", because of such practices, can create a cycle of exploitation and risk. While individuals may see themselves as savvy or entrepreneurial, they may contribute to a culture of unethical behavior and harm. Relying solely on bonuses without depositing may not always be feasible or ethical, it shows the complexities of these situations. There will be potential consequences for all parties involved and ethical decision-making over short-term gains.


Title: Re: Buying and Selling of Casino Accounts (Discussion thread)
Post by: PX-Z on February 20, 2024, 10:34:20 PM
I won't answer the other question because answers are too obvious and you are dealing with a future trouble.

- Over all, is casino account trading legitimate? If yes, should I create a thread where gamblers can easily post their casino account sell ads?
It exists but i won't call it legitimate, it's all over in the casino ToS. Creating a sell/buy thread of casino account means trouble and you are inviting those user's investigator to come to you and will eventually bust your account later on.

On the legal side, it's illegal, you are basically indirectly selling or buying personal information which may result to identity theft.


Title: Re: Buying and Selling of Casino Accounts (Discussion thread)
Post by: ralle14 on February 21, 2024, 12:51:16 AM
- is it right to sell ones casino account, most especially when the account is KYCed?
- Do casinos have any policy against account sells?
Casinos most likely have rules against account selling and it's wrong to sell accounts when it's one of the many ways to abuse their casino.

- If you have the opportunity of buying a casino account, would you buy or build yours from afresh?
- Would you sell your casino account if you decide to leave gambling completely, most especially, your KYCed account? If yes, how do you trust the buyer?
- Over all, is casino account trading legitimate? If yes, should I create a thread where gamblers can easily post their casino account sell ads?
I'll always start fresh because I prefer experiencing everything from the start instead of having a shortcut.

Even if I suddenly stepped away from gambling, I wouldn't sell my casino account to anyone. I'd simply leave it until the casino deactivates it after some time.

Buying and selling casino accounts are a thing because there's always someone willing to pay, but I doubt it's a good idea to open a thread here and encourage it.


Title: Re: Buying and Selling of Casino Accounts (Discussion thread)
Post by: Fundamentals Of on February 21, 2024, 01:14:53 AM
It's definitely not right to sell casino accounts, most especially those that have KYC information. I think this is also prohibited by casinos. VIP rules, KYC, etc all become pointless if accounts can be transferred from one person to another.

If one is eyeing at those juicy perks and privileges that come with high ranks and VIP levels, he might buy. I think that's the easiest way to achieve those ranks and levels. And since it has already passed KYC, one's personal information is safe. So this kind of thing is more disadvantageous to sellers. But I personally am not interested in casino levels and ranks.

I will not sell a casino account.

I don't think account trading of casinos is legitimate.


Title: Re: Buying and Selling of Casino Accounts (Discussion thread)
Post by: lienfaye on February 21, 2024, 01:41:23 AM
Now, my question is..
- is it right to sell ones casino account, most especially when the account is KYCed?
- Do casinos have any policy against account sells?
- If you have the opportunity of buying a casino account, would you buy or build yours from afresh?
- Would you sell your casino account if you decide to leave gambling completely, most especially, your KYCed account? If yes, how do you trust the buyer?
- Over all, is casino account trading legitimate? If yes, should I create a thread where gamblers can easily post their casino account sell ads?
- Of course not. It's risky especially for the part of seller. Will you allow anyone to use your account verified with your own documents? It is not worthy regardless of the account's price.
- I'm not certain but probably this is against the rules.
- I will create a casino account (since it's free) and begin with low level rather than spending my money just because I want to take advantage the VIP rewards. Be active and wager more to reach the level that you desire.
- No. I will just keep it inactive free from worrying on how the buyer use my account after I sell it.
- For sure it is not. And no casino operator will encourage such activity.


Title: Re: Buying and Selling of Casino Accounts (Discussion thread)
Post by: dansus021 on February 21, 2024, 02:30:00 AM
As far as I know buying and selling account on every platform is considered illegal especially if the account had KYC like that. Even tho this just for gambling but I do believe these are breaking the term of service of the gambling provider.

But why do people buy a gambling account in the fist place? I hear that some criminals buy bank accounts but why do they buy Casino account?


Title: Re: Buying and Selling of Casino Accounts (Discussion thread)
Post by: SeaCoinCollector. on February 21, 2024, 06:36:02 AM
Quote
1. is it right to sell ones casino account, most especially when the account is KYCed?
2. Do casinos have any policy against account sells?
3. If you have the opportunity of buying a casino account, would you buy or build yours from afresh?
4 Would you sell your casino account if you decide to leave gambling completely, most especially, your KYCed account? If yes, how do you trust the buyer?
5. Over all, is casino account trading legitimate? If yes, should I create a thread where gamblers can easily post their casino account sell ads?  
1. It violates terms of service adn compromise personal information
2. Many casinos have rules that do not allow selling of account to stop scams and make sure everyone plays fairly.
3. If you want to keep your protection and privacy, it's better to make a new account than to buy an old one.
4. When someone stops gambling and sells a KYC account, it can be hard to trust the buyer because it can be hard to confirm their identity and intentions.
5. Trading casino account is usually not legal because due to policy violations and security risks. Making a thread of selling account might encourage people to act unethically, so it should be avoided.


Title: Re: Buying and Selling of Casino Accounts (Discussion thread)
Post by: Z390 on February 21, 2024, 06:54:11 AM
Now, my question is..
- is it right to sell ones casino account, most especially when the account is KYCed?
- Do casinos have any policy against account sells?
- If you have the opportunity of buying a casino account, would you buy or build yours from afresh?
- Would you sell your casino account if you decide to leave gambling completely, most especially, your KYCed account? If yes, how do you trust the buyer?
- Over all, is casino account trading legitimate? If yes, should I create a thread where gamblers can easily post their casino account sell ads?

Lets make this thread a place to discuss everything related to buying and selling of casino account?

1. I will never sell my casino account to anyone because they can just open theirs, this would be my advice to such people who come looking for account, either KYCed or Not.

2. Some casinos do have policy against account sells, but I am not 100% sure about it, I just believe that it should be against their rules.

3. I don't have crazy desires from gambling, it's not a do or die for me to gamble, I have many business I am looking after my hands are always tight and I am making money, I do gambling for entertainment purposes, so I will rather build my casino account from scratch instead of buying from someone.

4. If I decide to leave gambling today I could one day feel like coming back, there is no point selling the account when it can be useful some other day, no reason to deal with any buyer.

5. Casino account trading should not be legitimate, find somewhere else to do that if you want but not on this forum, it's disgusting and not encouraging.


Title: Re: Buying and Selling of Casino Accounts (Discussion thread)
Post by: shasan on February 24, 2024, 05:45:33 PM
Now, my question is..
- is it right to sell ones casino account, most especially when the account is KYCed?
- Do casinos have any policy against account sells?
- If you have the opportunity of buying a casino account, would you buy or build yours from afresh?
- Would you sell your casino account if you decide to leave gambling completely, most especially, your KYCed account? If yes, how do you trust the buyer?
- Over all, is casino account trading legitimate? If yes, should I create a thread where gamblers can easily post their casino account sell ads?
Let's say all of the documents you will receive while you buy an account from anyone. But if for any reason the site asks to verify your KYC then how you will do that? If you can't log into the account then how will you withdraw your funds? If the user recovers the account as it is KYC verified then what will you do?


Title: Re: Buying and Selling of Casino Accounts (Discussion thread)
Post by: Ultegra134 on February 24, 2024, 06:27:06 PM
As far as I know buying and selling account on every platform is considered illegal especially if the account had KYC like that. Even tho this just for gambling but I do believe these are breaking the term of service of the gambling provider.

But why do people buy a gambling account in the fist place? I hear that some criminals buy bank accounts but why do they buy Casino account?
Possibly to avoid KYC for whatever reason or they're up to something they shouldn't be doing, such as taking advantage of some exploit they've discovered and resort doing it in someone's else's account and name to avoid repercussions in their name. Keep in mind that it's against the TOS and illegal, as you're impersonating someone else. I wouldn't do it for any kind of money, the risk is far greater than the reward. I'd rather not face legal repercussions for a few dollars, this account has my personal details in it.


Title: Re: Buying and Selling of Casino Accounts (Discussion thread)
Post by: Quidat on February 25, 2024, 08:58:01 PM

- is it right to sell ones casino account, most especially when the account is KYCed?
- Do casinos have any policy against account sells?
- If you have the opportunity of buying a casino account, would you buy or build yours from afresh?
- Would you sell your casino account if you decide to leave gambling completely, most especially, your KYCed account? If yes, how do you trust the buyer?
- Over all, is casino account trading legitimate? If yes, should I create a thread where gamblers can easily post their casino account sell ads?



Lets put up some example on Stake.com direct.

4.14 You are prohibited from selling, transferring or acquiring Stake Accounts to or from other Players.
https://stake.com/policies/terms

So to assume out that this term is almost the same with most platforms nowadays then for sure its written there.  ;D

-If its prohibited then better think not to proceed
-Does vary and that one above is an example
-No, better build fresh
-Nope, if is kyc'ed then for sure its a suicide on selling it out
-Nope, i wont still consider such action.


Title: Re: Buying and Selling of Casino Accounts (Discussion thread)
Post by: ralle14 on February 26, 2024, 02:38:51 AM
But why do people buy a gambling account in the fist place? I hear that some criminals buy bank accounts but why do they buy Casino account?
It's like a shortcut for some gamblers to gain better bonuses and bypass restrictions because there are gambling sites that can restrict accounts from future promotions once they see you try to abuse their promotions even once.

It's also an option to avoid going through the hassle of KYC, even though non-KYC gambling sites exist, there are KYC casinos that are simply a cut above the rest.


Title: Re: Buying and Selling of Casino Accounts (Discussion thread)
Post by: danherbias07 on February 26, 2024, 04:06:42 AM
Now, my question is..
- is it right to sell ones casino account, most especially when the account is KYCed?
- Do casinos have any policy against account sells?
- If you have the opportunity of buying a casino account, would you buy or build yours from afresh?
- Would you sell your casino account if you decide to leave gambling completely, most especially, your KYCed account? If yes, how do you trust the buyer?
- Over all, is casino account trading legitimate? If yes, should I create a thread where gamblers can easily post their casino account sell ads?
Let's say all of the documents you will receive while you buy an account from anyone. But if for any reason the site asks to verify your KYC then how you will do that? If you can't log into the account then how will you withdraw your funds? If the user recovers the account as it is KYC verified then what will you do?

That will be truly difficult.
Especially when this happens.
https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/02/26/YKhTC.png
https://sportsbet.io/help-centre/help-other/help-other-terms-and-conditions/general-terms-conditions
A random check after a deposit.
Maybe a gambling site will try to use your deposit history to see if you are really making inconsistent amounts in your deposit.
But if not, and then suddenly the new user deposits an amount questionable, they may try to have a random check and that's going to be a big trouble for the new user.

And then another problem with withdrawal.
https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/02/26/YK9fg.png
Same link.

This is why selling gambling accounts is not recommended. It could be a win-win situation for the seller since he will receive the payment as soon as the buyer makes the contract but the buyer might have lots of problems in the future if suddenly the gambling sites will do a surprise checking of accounts like stated above.
"They reserve the right" to do that.
Terms and conditions are really important in this case because if we are the buyers we might be wasting our money from buying it and our deposited money is also in jeopardy of being frozen.
Some gambling sites may have not stated about the illegal selling of accounts but their T&C will protect them.


Title: Re: Buying and Selling of Casino Accounts (Discussion thread)
Post by: Ever-young on February 26, 2024, 04:42:30 AM
As far as I know buying and selling account on every platform is considered illegal especially if the account had KYC like that. Even tho this just for gambling but I do believe these are breaking the term of service of the gambling provider.

But why do people buy a gambling account in the fist place? I hear that some criminals buy bank accounts but why do they buy Casino account?
I believe there could be a few reasons why people would wish to buy gambling accounts. Some believe that it can give them access to higher stakes games and bigger payouts, than they might be able to access if they opened a new account.
It could also be that some think that buying an account will give them advantage over other players, since they'll be able to start with more money than other players.
I could also be that they don't have the required documents to pass the site's KYC requirements so they choose to buy an already verified account.
And finally, some people may just wish to try out different gambling sites without actually having to create an account themselves simply because maybe they're cautious about giving out their information online or maybe they're not up to betting age. There could be other reasons but whatever reasons they may be, the act is against the Ts and Cs of most online casinos and it's also considered illegal in many jurisdictions.


Title: Re: Buying and Selling of Casino Accounts (Discussion thread)
Post by: avp2306 on February 26, 2024, 08:13:39 AM
As far as I know buying and selling account on every platform is considered illegal especially if the account had KYC like that. Even tho this just for gambling but I do believe these are breaking the term of service of the gambling provider.

But why do people buy a gambling account in the fist place? I hear that some criminals buy bank accounts but why do they buy Casino account?
I believe there could be a few reasons why people would wish to buy gambling accounts. Some believe that it can give them access to higher stakes games and bigger payouts, than they might be able to access if they opened a new account.
It could also be that some think that buying an account will give them advantage over other players, since they'll be able to start with more money than other players.
I could also be that they don't have the required documents to pass the site's KYC requirements so they choose to buy an already verified account.
And finally, some people may just wish to try out different gambling sites without actually having to create an account themselves simply because maybe they're cautious about giving out their information online or maybe they're not up to betting age. There could be other reasons but whatever reasons they may be, the act is against the Ts and Cs of most online casinos and it's also considered illegal in many jurisdictions.

Maybe there are some benefits to be acquired with accounts got high wagered or anything than that. But its so risky to do this knowing that most of the casino ask a KYC requirements to their gamblers. That's why if they can't afford to do KYC then thinking about buying an account will be the solution will be more waste of money to them. Since they might suffer from a huge loss especially if there's something suspicious activity that can trigger another KYC verification on their bought accounts and they will be in trouble to that.

That's why its been highly discourage to do this and let them just build up their accounts and wager more since for this they can make sure that they are safe. But if they can't afford to pass a KYC to a casino then much better if they step out on this platform and find another one that doesn't ask this requirement. For sure there are more reasons why some people choose to buy a account on casino and its hard to pin point the main reason.


Title: Re: Buying and Selling of Casino Accounts (Discussion thread)
Post by: Slow death on February 27, 2024, 10:36:01 PM
buying accounts is a big mistake that someone will make, because we all know that casinos implement kyc and even if someone sells an account that has already gone through kyc it still won't stop one day the casino from asking for kyc again, we've all seen many cases of people who played with a lot of money and were lucky enough to be able to hit large multipliers, causing these same people to win a lot of money and as a result, at the time of withdrawal, the casinos asked the person to go through kyc again and when someone bought account that has already been done kyc by the original owner so this person who bought the account does not have the documents that were used by the original owner to go through kyc so if this person deposited a lot of money

He played and was lucky to win a lot of money and at the time of withdrawal the casino asked for KYC and that person has no documents so he will lose everything: he will lose all the money he deposited at the casino, he will lose all his winnings and they will block that person's account. So this person will end up with a lot of losses, he spent money buying an account, he spent money depositing at the casino. At the end of the day, there is no point in buying an account. Most people buy casino accounts because they want to be VIP members and get the benefits, that's why they buy VIP accounts, but they forget about the high risk they take. It's a risk that, in my opinion, doesn't make any sense to take.


Title: Re: Buying and Selling of Casino Accounts (Discussion thread)
Post by: dansus021 on March 03, 2024, 09:09:00 AM
But why do people buy a gambling account in the fist place? I hear that some criminals buy bank accounts but why do they buy Casino account?
Possibly to avoid KYC for whatever reason or they're up to something they shouldn't be doing, such as taking advantage of some exploit they've discovered and resort doing it in someone's else's account and name to avoid repercussions in their name. Keep in mind that it's against the TOS and illegal, as you're impersonating someone else. I wouldn't do it for any kind of money, the risk is far greater than the reward. I'd rather not face legal repercussions for a few dollars, this account has my personal details in it.
Well that makes sense while you buy in theory you can skip the KYC because people who register already do the KYC part. But don't you think this gonna harm the real user in future?

It's like a shortcut for some gamblers to gain better bonuses and bypass restrictions because there are gambling sites that can restrict accounts from future promotions once they see you try to abuse their promotions even once.
Does the old account have more benefits than the old account? Like bonuses and things like that? and what you said also makes sense that the user can bypass bonuses and restrict the country by buying other people's accounts.

I believe there could be a few reasons why people would wish to buy gambling accounts. Some believe that it can give them access to higher stakes games and bigger payouts, than they might be able to access if they opened a new account.
It could also be that some think that buying an account will give them advantage over other players, since they'll be able to start with more money than other players.
I could also be that they don't have the required documents to pass the site's KYC requirements so they choose to buy an already verified account.
And finally, some people may just wish to try out different gambling sites without actually having to create an account themselves simply because maybe they're cautious about giving out their information online or maybe they're not up to betting age. There could be other reasons but whatever reasons they may be, the act is against the Ts and Cs of most online casinos and it's also considered illegal in many jurisdictions.

Maybe there are some benefits to be acquired with accounts got high wagered or anything than that. But its so risky to do this knowing that most of the casino ask a KYC requirements to their gamblers. That's why if they can't afford to do KYC then thinking about buying an account will be the solution will be more waste of money to them. Since they might suffer from a huge loss especially if there's something suspicious activity that can trigger another KYC verification on their bought accounts and they will be in trouble to that.

That's why its been highly discourage to do this and let them just build up their accounts and wager more since for this they can make sure that they are safe. But if they can't afford to pass a KYC to a casino then much better if they step out on this platform and find another one that doesn't ask this requirement. For sure there are more reasons why some people choose to buy a account on casino and its hard to pin point the main reason.

Dont you guys think what I am think it is possible that people who bought the KYC account can do something illegal like do money laundry through gambling site if this possibility the real user of the account can be dangerous.


Title: Re: Buying and Selling of Casino Accounts (Discussion thread)
Post by: shasan on March 05, 2024, 07:39:13 PM
Now, my question is..
- is it right to sell ones casino account, most especially when the account is KYCed?
- Do casinos have any policy against account sells?
- If you have the opportunity of buying a casino account, would you buy or build yours from afresh?
- Would you sell your casino account if you decide to leave gambling completely, most especially, your KYCed account? If yes, how do you trust the buyer?
- Over all, is casino account trading legitimate? If yes, should I create a thread where gamblers can easily post their casino account sell ads?

Lets make this thread a place to discuss everything related to buying and selling of casino account?
*** I do not think any legit user will sell any kyc verified account as the user may violate the terms or may do something wrong.
*** Casinos do not allow sells accounts and if the can understand the account is being operated by someone else then those who require KYC will block the account. And it is totally against the casino.
*** I must have to create a fresh one.
*** I will never sell. If I trust anyone then I may give the person free to use.
*** You can't verify multiple accounts on the same site if they require KYC then my question is how you will sell accounts.


Title: Re: Buying and Selling of Casino Accounts (Discussion thread)
Post by: Zlantann on March 05, 2024, 08:07:02 PM
As far as I know buying and selling account on every platform is considered illegal especially if the account had KYC like that. Even tho this just for gambling but I do believe these are breaking the term of service of the gambling provider.

But why do people buy a gambling account in the fist place? I hear that some criminals buy bank accounts but why do they buy Casino account?

Casino registration is so easy that there is no need to buy any account except there are other reasons for that. And in most cases, the reason is not lawful. Someone who has been banned from a casino for cheating the system might want to buy an account to continue such criminal activities. Others might want to buy an account for illegal activities such as money laundering. I also wonder how someone will want to sell his account which may have undergone KYC because it is a very risky business. If the new buyer uses it for criminal activities with the KYC the old owner can be traced and held responsible. However, I suspect that most of these accounts that are put up for sale also have issues.

Recently I saw some young men selling some social media accounts and I had to ask them why. They simply told me that they were broke and needed. I inquired if they knew that this soled account could be used to scam people who were close to them. They simply told me that they knew but didn't care. It is also possible that these account sellers just need the money and don't care about the consequences.


Title: Re: Buying and Selling of Casino Accounts (Discussion thread)
Post by: Mahanton on March 05, 2024, 08:29:26 PM
As far as I know buying and selling account on every platform is considered illegal especially if the account had KYC like that. Even tho this just for gambling but I do believe these are breaking the term of service of the gambling provider.

But why do people buy a gambling account in the fist place? I hear that some criminals buy bank accounts but why do they buy Casino account?

Casino registration is so easy that there is no need to buy any account except there are other reasons for that. And in most cases, the reason is not lawful. Someone who has been banned from a casino for cheating the system might want to buy an account to continue such criminal activities. Others might want to buy an account for illegal activities such as money laundering. I also wonder how someone will want to sell his account which may have undergone KYC because it is a very risky business. If the new buyer uses it for criminal activities with the KYC the old owner can be traced and held responsible. However, I suspect that most of these accounts that are put up for sale also have issues.

Recently I saw some young men selling some social media accounts and I had to ask them why. They simply told me that they were broke and needed. I inquired if they knew that this soled account could be used to scam people who were close to them. They simply told me that they knew but didn't care. It is also possible that these account sellers just need the money and don't care about the consequences.
Possible reasons in mind on which this could be ff;

1. Trying out to experience those higher VIP status account
2. Getting those VIP perks
3. Doesnt really like on hassling themselves on getting into that rank


In overall, it is really just that pointless on having that kind of reasoning on why you would really be buying an account.
It would really be better to establish or ranking up your own account rather than on making use of those other accounts which it could possibly make you ban.
Basing up into those points above which it do gives out example that it is really that prohibited on selling it. So why would bother?


Title: Re: Buying and Selling of Casino Accounts (Discussion thread)
Post by: dansus021 on March 15, 2024, 03:28:41 PM
As far as I know buying and selling account on every platform is considered illegal especially if the account had KYC like that. Even tho this just for gambling but I do believe these are breaking the term of service of the gambling provider.

But why do people buy a gambling account in the fist place? I hear that some criminals buy bank accounts but why do they buy Casino account?

Casino registration is so easy that there is no need to buy any account except there are other reasons for that. And in most cases, the reason is not lawful. Someone who has been banned from a casino for cheating the system might want to buy an account to continue such criminal activities. Others might want to buy an account for illegal activities such as money laundering. I also wonder how someone will want to sell his account which may have undergone KYC because it is a very risky business. If the new buyer uses it for criminal activities with the KYC the old owner can be traced and held responsible. However, I suspect that most of these accounts that are put up for sale also have issues.

Recently I saw some young men selling some social media accounts and I had to ask them why. They simply told me that they were broke and needed. I inquired if they knew that this soled account could be used to scam people who were close to them. They simply told me that they knew but didn't care. It is also possible that these account sellers just need the money and don't care about the consequences.

I know right, it simply register with email maybe some gambling providers need a KYC but some are not require you just sign a deposit and play and enjoy some signup bonuses. I don't even know why people do buy account hahahah.

Possible reasons in mind on which this could be ff;

1. Trying out to experience those higher VIP status account
2. Getting those VIP perks
3. Doesnt really like on hassling themselves on getting into that rank


In overall, it is really just that pointless on having that kind of reasoning on why you would really be buying an account.
It would really be better to establish or ranking up your own account rather than on making use of those other accounts which it could possibly make you ban.
Basing up into those points above which it do gives out example that it is really that prohibited on selling it. So why would bother?

Yeah maybe those reason are make sense but it is really worth it to buy account in your opinion ?


Title: Re: Buying and Selling of Casino Accounts (Discussion thread)
Post by: masulum on March 15, 2024, 03:37:19 PM

Dont you guys think what I am think it is possible that people who bought the KYC account can do something illegal like do money laundry through gambling site if this possibility the real user of the account can be dangerous.

Selling an account that has already done KYC is stupid decisions from seller. In essence, selling any account where the person has done full KYC means he has sold his identity to the buyer. Buyers can do anything with the account and existing data. If the new owner (buyer) of the account commits a criminal act, such as money laundering, sending funds to terrorists, the first account owner will be sought by the authorities. Because the data in the account is the data of the first owner, not the current new owner. So this second party takes cover from the owner of the first account for whatever action he wants with that accounts. He just need to create a same bank account name to that account. If it can be done with bypass bank administrations to create bank account with fake name, so it very possible to do.


Title: Re: Buying and Selling of Casino Accounts (Discussion thread)
Post by: qwertyup23 on March 15, 2024, 03:44:12 PM
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Now, my question is..
- is it right to sell ones casino account, most especially when the account is KYCed?
- Do casinos have any policy against account sells?

No it is not right and it is a violation of the ToS of a gambling website to transfer your account to another user via selling.

Under the ToS of most gambling websites, there is a prohibition about account selling where the owner is prohibited to do such. In addition, when you submit your KYC documents to a certain gambling website, you are also implying that you are the owner of such account thereof. If you sell that account with your KYC information, then it is in effect fraud and deceit where a person is using your information on your account.

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- If you have the opportunity of buying a casino account, would you buy or build yours from afresh?

No and never since the risks are too much for me to consider.

If I were to invest my time and money on a certain casino, then I would make sure that I have all the genuine information to be submitted. If I were to purchase an account from a seller then I invest my time and money on such, then there is always that risk of my account being banned and my funds being withheld by the gambling website.

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- Would you sell your casino account if you decide to leave gambling completely, most especially, your KYCed account? If yes, how do you trust the buyer?
- Over all, is casino account trading legitimate? If yes, should I create a thread where gamblers can easily post their casino account sell ads?

No I would not sell my account as it is against the said rules.

If it is my account, then I have the KYC documents associated with it. Selling it to another user would put me into a situation of my profile being tagged across several gambling websites. Also, account trading is NOT legitimate unless the gambling platform says otherwise.


Title: Re: Buying and Selling of Casino Accounts (Discussion thread)
Post by: dansus021 on March 20, 2024, 04:46:01 AM
Dont you guys think what I am think it is possible that people who bought the KYC account can do something illegal like do money laundry through gambling site if this possibility the real user of the account can be dangerous.

Selling an account that has already done KYC is stupid decisions from seller. In essence, selling any account where the person has done full KYC means he has sold his identity to the buyer. Buyers can do anything with the account and existing data. If the new owner (buyer) of the account commits a criminal act, such as money laundering, sending funds to terrorists, the first account owner will be sought by the authorities. Because the data in the account is the data of the first owner, not the current new owner. So this second party takes cover from the owner of the first account for whatever action he wants with that accounts. He just need to create a same bank account name to that account. If it can be done with bypass bank administrations to create bank account with fake name, so it very possible to do.

But believe me dude some people just want the money I actually see a people buy a Bank Account with fully KYC this is way way more dangerous than a gambling account in my opinion. I 10000% agree with you that user that has done full KYC means he has sold his identity to the buyer.

Some people just don't aware with that  :'(. Data is traded nowadays and privacy is scarce


Title: Re: Buying and Selling of Casino Accounts (Discussion thread)
Post by: Poker Player on March 20, 2024, 05:53:35 AM
I wouldn't dream of buying or selling a casino account. Regarding selling it has already been said, apart from breaking the rules, it is normal that you have passed KYC and selling your privacy for a few bucks is not very smart, and regarding buying it, similar, because you are breaking the rules also for some supposed benefits such as having a vip account but it costs you money and if you get caught you will be left with nothing. Not to mention if the person who sells it to you could be under judicial investigation, for example, and you will end up receiving a visit from the police at your house to ask for explanations.

Even if you don't know about casinos, I think common sense will make you think that it is not a good idea.


Title: Re: Buying and Selling of Casino Accounts (Discussion thread)
Post by: masulum on March 20, 2024, 05:43:48 PM
But believe me dude some people just want the money I actually see a people buy a Bank Account with fully KYC this is way way more dangerous than a gambling account in my opinion. I 10000% agree with you that user that has done full KYC means he has sold his identity to the buyer.

Some people just don't aware with that  :'(. Data is traded nowadays and privacy is scarce
I don't know, whether they are not aware or they think it is normal. but in Indonesia, buying and selling KYC accounts happens so easily at cheap prices. Some people selling thier KYCed account start from $30. If this is used for a casino, and when buyers get a big win, unfortunatelly, it requires data verification, of course the owner may not be able to fulfill this verification. This is the negative side from the buyer's side of buying someone else's KYC account.


Even if you don't know about casinos, I think common sense will make you think that it is not a good idea.
yes, this is not good idea, but in real life, someone choose to buy other accounts just because they are doesn't wants to share their personal data.


Title: Re: Buying and Selling of Casino Accounts (Discussion thread)
Post by: dansus021 on March 22, 2024, 02:54:59 AM
But believe me dude some people just want the money I actually see a people buy a Bank Account with fully KYC this is way way more dangerous than a gambling account in my opinion. I 10000% agree with you that user that has done full KYC means he has sold his identity to the buyer.

Some people just don't aware with that  :'(. Data is traded nowadays and privacy is scarce
I don't know, whether they are not aware or they think it is normal. but in Indonesia, buying and selling KYC accounts happens so easily at cheap prices. Some people selling thier KYCed account start from $30. If this is used for a casino, and when buyers get a big win, unfortunatelly, it requires data verification, of course the owner may not be able to fulfill this verification. This is the negative side from the buyer's side of buying someone else's KYC account.

Yeah I know that back then people buy KYCed Exchange accounts for 500K Rupiah right for an airdrop or things similar like that, and if you remember there is person who sold National ID + with people hold their National ID and sold as NFT on OpenSea that is crazyyyyyy.

Secondly I hear the news on TV that rich people bought national id from poor people to avoid taxes. wow this world is really broken.

and all of this can be happen on Casino account too.


Title: Re: Buying and Selling of Casino Accounts (Discussion thread)
Post by: danherbias07 on March 22, 2024, 11:01:59 AM
I wouldn't dream of buying or selling a casino account. Regarding selling it has already been said, apart from breaking the rules, it is normal that you have passed KYC and selling your privacy for a few bucks is not very smart, and regarding buying it, similar, because you are breaking the rules also for some supposed benefits such as having a vip account but it costs you money and if you get caught you will be left with nothing. Not to mention if the person who sells it to you could be under judicial investigation, for example, and you will end up receiving a visit from the police at your house to ask for explanations.

Even if you don't know about casinos, I think common sense will make you think that it is not a good idea.

Scary and I hope the buyers of casino accounts are reading this. They are putting themselves in danger not just their account getting frozen but also in the scope of the police if ever that account had done something nasty or illegal.
I do understand the sellers for doing it maybe because they just want their money back for all the hardships and money spent to rank the account but I don't understand the buyers on why they would do that. It's not just the legality but also the prone to scammers because they are still holding the e-mail account and there's always a way to reset the password, which means the buyer could end up losing everything. Well, maybe they will be buying it so they can use it in illegal ways and when it points out to someone, it will be the seller who will be visited not them. Both ways are scary, it's better not to just do it.  ;D

Well, it's not that hard to rank and we could always wager in the low-risk games so that we won't be losing too much money, $1000 could go far and it would probably take to gold or diamond ranks in just weeks or a month.


Title: Re: Buying and Selling of Casino Accounts (Discussion thread)
Post by: Accardo on March 22, 2024, 11:52:22 AM
Underaged gamblers would be their biggest buyers, and that's risky. The casinos can't trace this or figure out if an account has changed hands or not. However, selling a casino account is wrong, but the account business has been on the rise since the emergence of social media lifestyles. Hence, people now have the urge to purchase accounts after getting banned or not eligible to use the platform. Such things can't be stopped. Provided the buyer utilizes the account very well and doesn't break rules he'd be in the casino forever. Moreover, the casino is focused on tracing people who go against their terms of service, than those who purchase accounts. The risk is on the buyer, yes, but in rare cases where the account is flagged for some reason, caused by the original owner. He could lose out on his deposit and balances.

Though it's wrong in all ramifications, underage players wouldn't mind going through this route, to be eligible to enjoy their habit. There are other beneficiaries of this account-buying business, those who sell data, and create accounts in bulk, then the marketers and resellers. Since the market has been established it'll be around for a longer period, regardless of the risk. Buyers and sellers wouldn't stop trading. Addicted gamblers who got banned from using a casino can also utilize this service. I learned that the casino that banned him works as hard as possible to see that he doesn't gamble elsewhere, because of his addiction. Hence, he's not eligible to run KYC using his date anymore. Online casinos are getting broader each day, and gamblers are eager to achieve their goal, the jackpot.


Title: Re: Buying and Selling of Casino Accounts (Discussion thread)
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Title: Re: Buying and Selling of Casino Accounts (Discussion thread)
Post by: redsun114 on March 29, 2024, 08:31:32 AM
Secondly I hear the news on TV that rich people bought national id from poor people to avoid taxes. wow this world is really broken.

and all of this can be happen on Casino account too.
Whether the world is broken or not, rich people can indeed buy the identities of the poor so that they can use them for different purposes to avoid getting in trouble themselves. They know that the poor are vulnerable and they would always be ready to sell anything for money imagine you haven't fed your family for two days and then you are offered money, even if it's a small amount, you will be ready to give anything for it.

When we talk about gambling, I'm also pretty sure they can do this in gambling as well, if they don't want to provide their identity if asked for KYC verification, they can always either buy accounts from others or buy their identities by paying them money to get their account verified.