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February 18, 2024, 10:57:36 AM
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- is it right to sell ones casino account, most especially when the account is KYCed?
I think you've pointed it out already, accounts are most likely to be tied to your identity so I don't think it's proper to sell it. In the first place, I think it's really dumb for someone to sell their casino account especially if said identity tied was theirs. And if we're talking about hackers, I don't think they'd really give a damn on whose identity is with the account really.

- Do casinos have any policy against account sells?
As far as I know, no. I think it's because they're KYC rules already, in some sense, touch upon it? In some sense them saying you can't use another account or you applying for KYC is basically them saying you can't use any other account, that includes ones being sold.

- If you have the opportunity of buying a casino account, would you buy or build yours from afresh?
Build afresh. I still see no reason why you'd want to buy an account since if you wanted the benefits, you can build it up yourself in the long run since, well, it's designed to give you rewards in the long run.

- Would you sell your casino account if you decide to leave gambling completely, most especially, your KYCed account? If yes, how do you trust the buyer?
Nope. No way in hell.

- Over all, is casino account trading legitimate? If yes, should I create a thread where gamblers can easily post their casino account sell ads?
Definitely not. There's probably some loopholes that allow it to happen and for account buyers to be safe, but hell if the casino finds out then say goodbye to it lol.

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February 18, 2024, 11:22:31 AM
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Now, my question is..
- is it right to sell ones casino account, most especially when the account is KYCed?
No, I don't think it's a good idea for us to sell our casino account, especially if it's KYCed, since it might produce a lot of unethical and legal problems that could endanger both ourselves and other people. Like we can never predict what the future holds.

- Do casinos have any policy against account sells?
Of course, yeah. Their agreements and services make this clear, which is why they use KYC to guard against fraud and, of course, guarantee platform security.

- If you have the opportunity of buying a casino account, would you buy or build yours from afresh?
Nope I wont buy an account because I don’t want things to get complicated because I may not know its history or whether it has been involved in fraudulent activities.

- Would you sell your casino account if you decide to leave gambling completely, most especially, your KYCed account? If yes, how do you trust the buyer?
To be honest, I don't plan to sell my account because I have no idea what the buyer would use it for. I just keep it there.

Lets make this thread a place to discuss everything related to buying and selling of casino account?
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Yes, so that we may read other people's perspectives on how they plan to respond to this kind of topic.

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February 18, 2024, 11:45:25 AM
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This is quite strange because I think that buying casino account that already has VIP rank is also pointless because if you only bet small amount then the bonus that can be claimed is also the same, namely quite small amount of money.

Don’t expect a shrimp gambler will purchased this account not only it’s pointless for them due to their small bankroll but also the price of this account is expensive which means they can’t afford it.

This kind of account only target buyer with deep pockets not the small ones since there’s really no point on using this account because they can’t maximize its benefits. I will be happy to use this VIP account because I wager decent amount but I will not dare to purchase an account that can be retrieve by the original owner once reported to the support.

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February 18, 2024, 11:45:31 AM
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Now, my question is..
- is it right to sell ones casino account, most especially when the account is KYCed?
I don't really know for sure about this but it seems that casinos will prohibit this kind of practice because there is a chance of abuse, because it is impossible for anyone to want to buy and sell casino accounts if there is no benefit to be gained but these benefits will usually be against the casino rules

- Do casinos have any policy against account sells?
The answer must be sought in the terms and conditions of the casino

- If you have the opportunity of buying a casino account, would you buy or build yours from afresh?
I'm not interested and in my opinion the people who want to buy a casino account are those who are said the high roller category or are used to gambling thousands or tens of thousands of dollars not just hundreds of dollars, so small gamblers like me certainly don't feel the need to do it or are interested in buying one.

- Would you sell your casino account if you decide to leave gambling completely, most especially, your KYCed account? If yes, how do you trust the buyer?
If the casino account has done complete KYC, I would prefer to make it unactive because it might be dangerous for us if it is used for things that are against the law, especially casinos usually also have a delete account feature or the account is inactive for several months or years will be automatically deleted in their system.

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February 18, 2024, 12:54:08 PM
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Now, my question is..
- is it right to sell ones casino account, most especially when the account is KYCed?
- Do casinos have any policy against account sells?
- If you have the opportunity of buying a casino account, would you buy or build yours from afresh?
- Would you sell your casino account if you decide to leave gambling completely, most especially, your KYCed account? If yes, how do you trust the buyer?
- Over all, is casino account trading legitimate? If yes, should I create a thread where gamblers can easily post their casino account sell ads?

Lets make this thread a place to discuss everything related to buying and selling of casino account?
Most of these people that offer or sell casino accounts are not to be trusted. It is possible that most of these accounts they are offering for sale might have some problems and they just want to dispose of them. On the other hand, anyone who buys a casino account might also be targeting to use it fraudulently.  Selling a casino account is wrong and very risky for both the seller and the buyer. Registration for these casinos is very easy, so there is no need to buy an account. I will never buy an account from anybody because you might not know the history of the account and the casinos might later ask for KYC.

Selling my account is what I will never do considering that I have undergone KYC. If the new buyer uses the account for criminal actions like money laundering, they would now trace the crime to me. Doing such will be against the terms of service of most casinos and might even lead to litigation. Even if I am leaving gambling for life, my KYC with the casino can lead to problems. There is no need to create a thread where gamblers can trade accounts because it is not an acceptable practice.

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Now, my question is..
- is it right to sell ones casino account, most especially when the account is KYCed?
- Do casinos have any policy against account sells?
- If you have the opportunity of buying a casino account, would you buy or build yours from afresh?
- Would you sell your casino account if you decide to leave gambling completely, most especially, your KYCed account? If yes, how do you trust the buyer?

* Selling ones account isn't only wrong but extremely risky to both the buyer and the seller.  How about in the process of running the account if it's been bought and some deposit probably made or a huge win is made and you are required to pass KYC, how do you the buyer plan on taking care of that situation when the account opening kyc doesn't match with that of yours as the new owner now. Onto that seller, the seller could also face the risk of his sold account that is with his details being used for fraudulent activities of financial crime of money laundering and you find yourself in police net for something you know nothing of.

* I think this is something that could compromise casino's security in terms of dealing with imposters and impersonation as a result of account selling and as such they wouldn't be a party to it and will ultimately have a policy against account selling. Maybe if we could do well to read through their ToS we can find it laying there.

* What does it really take to building your own account, for crying out loud we don't get charged for opening new account account with a casino so why take the risk of buying an account when you can also build yours with time to such VIP rank even more above with repute than that which you would be risking to buy.

* Just as in my second comment  I placed the risk of selling account on both parties I won't sell my account,. If am staying away from gambling then I should be doing that for good by staying of completely by requesting the casino to closed down my account. The money I'll want to make by selling the account could also put me into bigger risk if am unlucky to have sold it to the wrong entity. And one important thing we are omitting here is that it's like transferring your data to a total stranger exposing your privacy to an unknown person and living by the mercy of the person not to use your account that is with your details to commit crime that will involve you.

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@bitbollo already said what needs to be said, I think that if anything that involves your identity and money then it's not a good idea to sell them because you might not know it but it's fraud all the way because other people are using an account that have your identification and when they do something malicious like using that account for money laundering, now when the case that your account will be investigated, you'd be booked for abetting the crime by selling your account, you can never defend yourself by saying that you didn't know because ignorance of the law is not an excuse. You also should consider reporting the Telegram page OP because that's definitely a den of money launderers and you're probably going to get a hefty reward if you do so, be careful about the report though.



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Very dangerous thing to be involved in and sure its not a surprise to me.  I would estimate every single account for any site on the net is possibly traded back and forth by various groups of people interested in its usage.   You dont have actual ownership rights, there is no legal space for trading of random accounts and it might easily be illegal to the point of prison in your country depending on the depth of deception and/or money involved even with crypto this is true.   I only think this lax attitude came about from people sharing the details to watch films and videos online and then its become a thing where you get hold of and share anything at all but when its involving money or assets its quite serious I think.    Expect to be in trouble, I dont think its too much more complicated then that, the ultimate worth is zero because it wont be returned to anyone who isnt the registered owner so that's how I'd class it personally.

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February 19, 2024, 07:42:25 AM
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- is it right to sell ones casino account, most especially when the account is KYCed?
- Do casinos have any policy against account sells?
- If you have the opportunity of buying a casino account, would you buy or build yours from afresh?
- Would you sell your casino account if you decide to leave gambling completely, most especially, your KYCed account? If yes, how do you trust the buyer?
- Over all, is casino account trading legitimate? If yes, should I create a thread where gamblers can easily post their casino account sell ads?

1.Why don't you read the Terms of Service of most crypto casinos. This will answer your questions.
2.No. I wouldn't buy casino accounts. There's no point spending money on this sh*t, since the account can be banned in no time.
The casino customer support can see that the user is logging in from a different IP address. Isn't this suspicious?
3.No, account trading isn't legitimate. I guess that many scammers are selling "VIP accounts" on some shady social media groups and the people should be aware about those scams.

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The terms and condition of the casino will sooner or later punish you, because most ToS I have seen forbids buying and selling of accounts, they will just wait for you to mess up and they will punish you even if you have money in the account, you may not be able to recover the money ever again.

Also if the account is already KYC'ed that even makes you a stupid person if you but such account, because as soon as you take over, your location will be different, and if they block your account due to strange activities how will you defend yourself when they ask you for proof of ownership?

My advice is avoid such nonsense, if you want to build a casino account so as to get some levels and offers then do it yourself, stop creating chances for problems to yourself in the future, I have never had any problem with any online casinos and I meant to keep it that way.

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On several occasions, I've come across some individuals in chat groups, mostly on discord, telegram, and in other social groups like on Facebook, reddits advertising their intentions to sell their account on casino, casinos usually ranges from Stake - which is for sure, one of the biggest online casinos if not actually the biggest, to other casinos like BC.game, offer is usually available for mostly; casinos with a VIP ranking system, and the VIP level of the account (and of course the entitled amount of bonus to be received) is what usually determines the amount of money the seller would ask for from bidders.

Now, my question is..
- is it right to sell ones casino account, most especially when the account is KYCed?
- Do casinos have any policy against account sells?
- If you have the opportunity of buying a casino account, would you buy or build yours from afresh?
- Would you sell your casino account if you decide to leave gambling completely, most especially, your KYCed account? If yes, how do you trust the buyer?
- Over all, is casino account trading legitimate? If yes, should I create a thread where gamblers can easily post their casino account sell ads?

Lets make this thread a place to discuss everything related to buying and selling of casino account?

- Depends if its not stated on terms and conditions of Stake then selling should be fine, it would really be just that depending whether you can afford on exposing your identity and putting up yourself
on potential trouble once that next user would be doing something shady.

-Creating new accounts is easy as pie, so multi account or purchased ones is something that out of platforms awareness.

-Nope, always build from fresh.I dont like on trying to play someone on using others account

-Nope, specially if its KYC'ed. I would just let it site idle.

-Im not totally aware about account sales on gambling platforms which we know this considered to be a personal and i dont
really get the point on doing so.
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Now, my question is..
- is it right to sell ones casino account, most especially when the account is KYCed?
- Do casinos have any policy against account sells?
- If you have the opportunity of buying a casino account, would you buy or build yours from afresh?
- Would you sell your casino account if you decide to leave gambling completely, most especially, your KYCed account? If yes, how do you trust the buyer?
- Over all, is casino account trading legitimate? If yes, should I create a thread where gamblers can easily post their casino account sell ads?

Lets make this thread a place to discuss everything related to buying and selling of casino account?

I would be very careful when it comes to buying or selling gambling accounts that are KYCed. Just recently I got asked by a casino where I gamble for several years and where my account is already KYC verified, to re-upload my documents. I am not sure if this was something special to my account or for all users. Imagine being a situation where you don't use your own account. The risk of the account being locked and losing all my money would be too high. Also selling your account could lead to problem, if your account is being misused for money laundering. In the end it's our name on the account and we could be liable for any criminal activities. The question would be how much money is being paid for the accounts and does it really make sense. Creating our own new account has the benefit of getting welcome bonuses from the casino.
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I believe there's no casino allow to buy and sell accounts, they didn't even allow a changed hands accounts e.g. it's owned by an old person, but the son is using it and tipster e.g. someone who bet for other people.

-Im not totally aware about account sales on gambling platforms which we know this considered to be a personal and i dont
really get the point on doing so.
They can get benefit of higher rakeback, promotions and other privilege if the account was a high roller. There's always a benefit, if not no one will want to buy someone else account.

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February 20, 2024, 11:12:40 AM
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- is it right to sell ones casino account, most especially when the account is KYCed?
No, I believe there must be some strict policy against this and even if there isn't, who in the world would sell their KYCed account? I mean after submitting their original and legit documents, who will risk by exposing their original identity.

- Do casinos have any policy against account sells?
They must have a policy against it. I'm pretty sure that the accounts that are found changing hands are banned immediately with no unbanning at all. They might even report it to authorities.

- If you have the opportunity of buying a casino account, would you buy or build yours from afresh?
I would never buy an account even if it has a high VIP level. I wonder what the buyers would do if the casino asked for extra verification at some point. I read on many topic here about such additional verification process when gamblers win some decent amount and/or their IP country changes.

- Would you sell your casino account if you decide to leave gambling completely, most especially, your KYCed account? If yes, how do you trust the buyer?
No, I would rather keep it or get it deactivated by contacting casino customer support.

- Over all, is casino account trading legitimate? If yes, should I create a thread where gamblers can easily post their casino account sell ads? 
It isn't legitimate and you can get in trouble for trying to do something like that. If it was okay for people to give their accounts to others, I guess the original purpose of KYC would become complete void. If account trading become casual then I guess some other procedures will be added by casino in addition to current KYC process for preventing KYCed account trading.

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February 20, 2024, 12:59:24 PM
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Because anything can happen to a account that you purchased from someone, I called it a stupid thing to do.

It's always against their policies, few terms of services that I have read doesn't accept, even jumping from one location to another, from VPN users can end up in getting your account banned.

I know that old casino account have higher rate of offers and other opportunities but it's not worth it if the account doesn't originally your own, rank or level the account up yourself if that's your goal, don't buy from anyone or else you will see how frustrated you will be when they find out.

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February 20, 2024, 05:59:24 PM
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The buyers also are aware this is risky that logging in to that bought account would result in getting busted.  Both buyers and sellers are untrustworthy and we know it is not allowed but they created a market for it. Sellers do have the idea of why someone would want to buy an account but if they were selling it still, maybe they are really in need of the money. They have their reasons.

The VIP accounts do have advantages and they get bonuses too which I guess is what interests those buyers.
Well, like they say, no risk no reward and then there might still be some practice that they do to ensure the safety of both parties. You already said that both parties have their own reasons but both are for the sake of earning money. People need money mostly for the good stuffs, so I won't immediately judge them and say that both are untrustworthy. Maybe on some gambling sites this kind of practice is legal?

And they think this makes them in-demand because sellers are going to work their account because they know there is also a demand for it and then buyers will use the account to play there. I won't say that they will only wait for the bonus without depositing as it may not get delivered or they will only get lesser amounts.

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February 20, 2024, 06:41:47 PM
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Now, my question is..
- is it right to sell ones casino account, most especially when the account is KYCed?
- Do casinos have any policy against account sells?
- If you have the opportunity of buying a casino account, would you buy or build yours from afresh?
- Would you sell your casino account if you decide to leave gambling completely, most especially, your KYCed account? If yes, how do you trust the buyer?
- Over all, is casino account trading legitimate? If yes, should I create a thread where gamblers can easily post their casino account sell ads?

Lets make this thread a place to discuss everything related to buying and selling of casino account?

If KYC is mandatory for an account to be eligible for something in the casino platform, then the casino did it for a reason and it's a big crime for anyone to sabotage such privileged in the name of buying account from another person because you are claiming accounts that is not under your name, that's pretense and false claim of profile that you are not.

As for the policy, they should have one that prohibit such act. If they ban users and stopped them from playing and withdrawing due to having multiple accounts, then I think this one will be a big crime to casinos.

I would rather build my account than buy one because of one benefits. Some days ago, my OKX account that I have registered and verified long time ago, I abandoned it but when I wanted to use it as of recent, I was asked to verify with basic things to match my previous details. If it was a bought account, there is no way that I can prove the ownership, this can happen in casino account too.

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February 20, 2024, 07:50:49 PM
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- is it right to sell ones casino account, most especially when the account is KYCed?
it's up to the owner whether they want to sell their account that has passed KYC

- Do casinos have any policy against account sells?
as far as I know, casinos have a rule about only the owner of the account(the one who verified the account) is allowed to use it, so if the casino finds out that the account has been sold there is a high chance that the account will be closed.

- If you have the opportunity of buying a casino account, would you buy or build yours from afresh?
No, I just feel like buying a casino account is extremely risky.

- Would you sell your casino account if you decide to leave gambling completely, most especially, your KYCed account? If yes, how do you trust the buyer?
No, I'd most likely just stop using it.

- Over all, is casino account trading legitimate? If yes, should I create a thread where gamblers can easily post their casino account sell ads?
as I have mentioned before, I remember reading on casino terms and conditions(not just one casino ToS) where they mentioned that only the owner of the account is allowed to use it, so if an account has been found out that it was sold, it will most likely get closed

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To me it is obvious any service which requires to go through Know Your Client process is not supposed to be neither shared or sold for any reason. Most casinos and exchanges have made very clear in their Terms of Service that accounts are individual and are not transferable between any parties whatsoever.
Even if I was tempted to, I would never sell any exchange or casino accounts to anyone, it would only risk my personal account and the possibility of ever getting another chance to be admitted into the same website again.

Actually, there has been some scam going on with Binance accounts. Scammers or money launderers try to lure people into giving access to their Binance accounts offering some money for it. It has become serious enough for Binance itself to publicly bring awareness of the problem, so people are less likely to fall for it.




As a rule of thumb, it is better never to share one's account, not even with friends. It could lead to bans and loss of assets, both in casinos and exchanges.

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February 20, 2024, 10:15:31 PM
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Well, like they say, no risk no reward and then there might still be some practice that they do to ensure the safety of both parties. You already said that both parties have their own reasons but both are for the sake of earning money. People need money mostly for the good stuffs, so I won't immediately judge them and say that both are untrustworthy. Maybe on some gambling sites this kind of practice is legal?

And they think this makes them in-demand because sellers are going to work their account because they know there is also a demand for it and then buyers will use the account to play there. I won't say that they will only wait for the bonus without depositing as it may not get delivered or they will only get lesser amounts.
The idea to engage in certain risky behaviors, such as gambling or account sharing, might be justified by the potential rewards involved. Both parties involved may have their reasons for participating, such as earning money, but there would be ethical implications of their actions. Engaging in practices like account sharing or exploiting loopholes in gambling sites may not only be against the terms of service but also carry legal and moral risks.

Legality does not always equate to ethical behavior. Just because certain practices might be allowed on some gambling sites does not necessarily make them morally acceptable or safe. Being "in-demand", because of such practices, can create a cycle of exploitation and risk. While individuals may see themselves as savvy or entrepreneurial, they may contribute to a culture of unethical behavior and harm. Relying solely on bonuses without depositing may not always be feasible or ethical, it shows the complexities of these situations. There will be potential consequences for all parties involved and ethical decision-making over short-term gains.

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