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Every day, thousands of dollars enter or leave the treasury of casinos, and we always hear about a gambler who wins or loses a large sum of money.

The thing that caught my attention is that the casino never loses. The money that you win is not the property of the casino, but of another player. The casino is in the process of recycling the money that the players have invested. There is always a winner and a loser, and when you bet with an amount of money, you bet against the money of all the other players. If you win, they will pay you from their money, and if someone else wins, they will pay himBTCBTC from your money.

So the casino remains the biggest beneficiary, right?

If Casinos arent profitable then we wont really be seeing tons of it today but we are seeing the other thing around. So its clearly on whose really making money. :)
This is why as a gambler then you should really know that gambling is really just that for fun and not on making yourself that getting rich because once you do have this kind of mindset or
thinking towards it then sooner or later you would really be finding yourself getting wrecked by it.Therefore, it would be always wise on having those realistic approach rather
than on making yourself that delusional because this is where things becomes shit if you do have those kind of non realistic hopes and goals.

apart from the government, yeah, the casino is the biggest beneficiary. gamblers are basically just a cash cow for them that bring in money, though there are some gamblers that actually profit from gambling in casinos, the percentage of them is small enough that it doesn't usually affect their overall profit from other gamblers.

Sometimes casinos are winning more but at other times players are the ones who are wining more money. There are many casinos who got bankrupt because their bankroll was emptied and they can't pay the players while on other side we see many casinos who are getting richer and richer every other day.

Those casinos that are getting richer are making money out of the pockets of the players who lose but the lucky ones are getting paid from the casinos because they are winning. It's a common belief that if someone loses the casinos earn that money while if someone wins then he/she takes away that money from the casinos.

The successful casinos are winning most of the times due to the house edge thing and they are winning quite good amount of money while on the other end there are many casinos that don't win that much and they completely shutdown their business due to losses. However, most of the times casinos are winning money rather than losing it. If casinos start losing then they won't be able to continue the business so it's casinos who are winning more than the players in the end.

It is easy for an outsider to conclude that casinos are making so much money. Except you are an insider who understands how the business is run you might not get the true picture of how casinos make profit or lose. You are also forgetting that these casinos also incur certain costs in the process of rendering services. They have to pay for licenses, pay taxes, maintain their website/physical shops, and pay workers/personnel. Don't forget that when there is a big win, it is also the casino that will pay the gambler. I have heard stories of some casinos going bankrupt because they can't pay out the wins of bettors. There is a saying that the house always wins but you will never know until you are involved.

The answer is very obvious; of course, casinos. Have you ever heard casinos complaining about losing to gamblers? No, it's mostly from gamblers who are complaining about losing because that's the nature. Casinos operate with a house edge, so they make a profit in the long run. With the volume of gamblers trying their luck, the more they'll make themselves profitable. That's why there's a phrase that "gamble only what you can afford" because it's expected that when you are gambling, you'll likely lose, so that's the way to manage the risk of losing more.

You are absolutely right, this is why building and running a casino is a very profitable business, more reason why we see a lot of new casinos springing up almost every day.
This days, building a casino have become really easy, but the hardest job now is finding players.

In the game of gambling, casinos are always the winners, I mean, no body with the power to build and program his business will do so In a way that he or she loses to his or her customers, he or she much program the business in such a way that his or her customers will continually lose to him or her, with some minor wins here and there from time to time, so that the customer doesn't at any point in time start suspecting that the business is rigged against him or her.

This is exactly the same casinos are built, but in a much more advanced way where by, players are betting against themselves, when they all lose, the casino packs all the money,🤑,  but when some players win, the casino pays the winner from the money others lost, and also keep the rest to themselve.
This makes casinos the most and always profitable ones, as far as gambling is concerned.

Casino has its margin, so you can consider that the casino wins more than the gambler, but in fact it is a more complex issue because there may be circumstances when the casino will be a loser. For example, the outflow of gamblers on another site-competitor, which eventually leads to the inability to pay obligations, the purchase of a license, etc. and such a casino declares itself bankrupt. In addition, it may happen that the wallet casino will be hacked and then the casino will again be forced to declare itself bankrupt.

The casino is a business and like every business they are in it to make profits. If the casino business is not profitable, many casino's and gambling platform would have shut down by now, and we will not be seeing an influx of new casinos to the scene. Number of people who lose daily on gambling cannot be compared to the number of people who win, and with the  number of gamblers increasing worldwide, the casino business remains very lucrative. Gamblers can benefit from a casino or betting platform, but the casino's remain the biggest beneficiary even with all the operational cost.

I don't know how to use statistics for this but in every 100 gamblers that gamble, it's only 3 of them that makes a life opportunity money from gambling, the rest of them make lose money and lose money and then quit, some make money and also lose money and when you take the aggregate loss and profits, the loss the have is always bigger than the profits. We have some of them that makes minor loss and a little profits and when you do aggregate for this one, what they gain is only a little higher than the loss they have because Casino are money making companies whether we agreed or not.

Have you seen a casino shutdown after running for years and they stopped working because they lose so much to gamblers, I have not seen one. We have so many of them like Stake casino exchange was reported of hacked last year, more than $41 million was stolen as a result of hack and today, they are functioning, doing fine and the money they spent on marketing has doubled, this is to tell you that the only beneficiary person in gambling is the company that provided the means of gambling for gamblers.

logically if the business is not profitable then it will go bankrupt, and in my opinion casinos will get more profits from their customers, and moreover it can be compared with companies and their staff which of course have companies that receive more profits

Of course we all know casinos are winners, they have margins that we can't see and only they know how much money they make from operating a casino.

Take a look at the percentage between games, are there many winners or losers? From what I hear, of course, there are more losers but people still like this game even though they keep losing, because from the player's defeat, at least the casino will benefit even though they will pay the winning player.

So in interpreting this we don't really know because we have never run a casino business, but I'm sure every casino will definitely have high profits so the casino is the one who receives the big benefits.

Come in mind that we do have that so called HOUSE EDGE on which this is something that makes them that advantageous with their players on which the longer that a certain gambler plays then its the way that they making more money and this is what they do like. Just like on what most people been saying here that if this business wasnt profitable in the first place then we wont really be seeing that sudden influx in numbers that currently existing. Even just simply looking on the gambling board alone on which there are really some gambling launching ANN thread that we could really be able to see on which it signifies that demand is there but of course
we should exempt out with those scam platforms. As a gambler then having this kind of awareness would really be putting you out through possible addiction since you do know that you are on great disadvantage
then you do only play just for the sake of fun.

when they say the house always wins, it's literally what is happening all the time with the casinos as the odds are always on them.

the only reason why some casinos are not making money is because they lost the competition. or new and the most popular casinos are just sweeping the small casinos. gamblers are making casinos richer every day with the money they give away. so if you wanna build a business where your passion is as a gambler, then be a casino. create one for you will be destined to be richer than Eddie.

In every business, in any industry, isn't it common that there's a flow of money in circulation? These businesses will able to operate for a long and cover all the operational costs and spending if there's a proper flow of money which will come to their customers.

There should be no question on who's winning between casinos and gamblers. It's already known from the start.

We are talking about basic Economics here.

Definitely. Both the casinos and bookies will grow, employ more workers and make more money. But that is if the gambling site is having traffic in a way that they have many gamblers. The gambler will gamble and lose money. Gamble again and lose more money. The casinos and bookies will be happy as they will have more money. So the answer to your question is that gamblers are the ones losing.

For entrepreneurs (bookies), gambling is the most profitable business, while for users, gambling is an activity that can only cause financial losses.

Currently, casinos have become quite popular entertainment venues and are visited by many people. So it's no surprise that competition in the world of gambling is so tight, especially if we talk about online gambling. where currently the number of online gambling platforms may no longer be counted, because not only legal casinos, but many illegal casinos have also emerged. And if casinos were an unprofitable business, casinos would have closed long ago, and if this business were not profitable then it would be impossible for people to be interested and involved in this business, and give rise to more and more gambling platforms. And when it comes to legal and officially licensed casinos, one thing that could make it possible for them to stop their business and go bankrupt is a multiple increase in taxes.

The casino was the reputed business in the current market situation,as you said it may be the reason for the origin of many gambling sites for now.The gamblers mostly create the new gambling site,the problem here is not all the gambling site owner was the legit people.So some create the gambling site which scam their money,we call them as the scam gambling site.The gambling site alone doesn’t mean of the complete gambling set up.Without the players,the gambling site are merely the myths.The gambling site was working on various way to bring back the gamblers to their gambling site.

The most followed strategies to the gambling sites are giving bonus money to the each deposit of the gambling site.Most of the gambling site follow this phenomenon,but some of the gambling site with huge reach doesn’t require any bonus money to the deposited money.After the gambler get into that site,they should not get away from that gambling site.This only major task for the gambling site.Only the gambling site provide the friendly and admirable environment alone able to survive in the gambling field.

We easily lose money when we have no techniques to approach the system, we only become vulnerable when we're incapable of making the good profits runs. The traffic from both gambling and casinos are massive, the same thing applies to the gigantic profits and heavy losses printed. There's no safer place in the system other than having in mind, regarding the huge losses and profits. Gamblers and casinos, who's making profits? I would go with gamblers because I'm one of the gamblers and can only speak on the evidence I'm witnessing.

Running a casino is much more technical and capital intensive than you think,  casino are paying revenue and cost of running the business coupled with advertisements and promotions all this takes money from the casino and most times,  it's not all a win-win for the casinos there are times that the players win huge sum and at that the casino will have to pay out,  reason why we have some complains of casino not paying out full amount of winning to gamblers who hit a certain high jackpot that it payment can cripple the operation of the casino.

So we need to check all that before we proclaims that casinos are easy and profitable to run,  but then due to the high technicality of the casino, there are sometimes gains that make it easy for them to keep running their businesses.

Casinos will always get the longer end of the stick.

Just imagine how much money they are getting from the withdrawal fees alone. Not to mention their house edge, albeit being set at 0.1% or similar, is still profitable for them. They might be just tossing the money around within the casino, but nonetheless they are posting good numbers because not everyday will there be a huge winner.

There's still a lot of depositors at the end of the day, and most of those depositors don't get their money back.

A simple answer to your question.

Just search the internet for a yearly report of the casino, especially a casino who are running on (Vegas). You will see most of them are on the net-positive report, which mean they have a good earning.

Especially right now most of influencer are advertiser gambling.

Casinos are the ones making more profit every day, and their pockets are getting fat. This is because if you look at it from this angle, you will notice that teenagers are involving in gambling more than before, because they think that it is another means of making profit, and they keep on throwing money inro gambling, hoping to win big someday. Casinos are everywhere and this shows that the business is booming, if not a lot of them would have fold up.

If any casino packs up from the business, it was not because a customer won big that lead to their bankruptcy, but it might be mismanagement of funds, or an insider knowing the cheat, and used it against the casino to bankrupt them or they are scammers or some other issues. We all know that we lose more than we win, and a lot of gamblers has always spent so much money in casinos chasing their losses that can never be recovered. Thise who have more than they have lost in casinos are few, and whenever they win big, they will quit, if not their win will be used to gamble back in the casino, which they will end up losing all of it. The house edge always wins.

Generally casinos have a set house edge on their games, which in the grand scheme of thins should correlate with the return to player.

So if in a day a casino has 100$ wagered, we can overall expect ~4% revenue towards the casino's bank accounts. 4% being around the upper limit for house edge. Usually though, this number can trend a lot higher because players will very often keep gambling with their entire balance until they go bust, with a very small percentage of all players coming out of the casino in profit.

So the real number is unclear to visitors unless the casino publishes some sort of stats. Because the bankroll of casinos is usually privately funded though, we rarely get a glimpse to such data. Another interesting spec though can be that in casinos with a public bankroll where large bets can be placed have an all time profit of lower than their house edge in relation to their total waggers. For example bustabit has ₿ 2,318,294 waggered but only ₿ 7,066 all time profit (which is 0.3% of total wagered). To my understanding casinos are in an advantageous position to this due to attracting customers that are willing to play at a higher house edge with lower max-bet limits, which leads to more losses.

So in the end, it's obvious that the casino always wins. But the casinos that win the most are the ones with the best marketing, able to attract players willing to lose on high house edge games like slots.

I don't think I would be wrong if I say that the casinos are the ones benefitting the most than gamblers. I understand casinos spend huge amount of money for promos, taxes but the rate at which new ones are surfacing is something that would make me conclude that they're making a lot of money. No matter the number of wins by gamblers, casinos are still profiting. They can pack up for other reasons but not because of the high winning rate of gamblers.

Like what are you saying bro, if the casino aren't really benefiting then you should probably see less casino and still yet there are tons of them popping out from the blue everyday by day and gamblers despite the losing still play on these casino because their is this factor of hope that they can win that big win. What I know for sure is that the casino are making a hell of a fortune and that's why they keep coming into the industry.

That's a bold claim.

Let's imagine the following situation. A casino opens and has a certain bankroll. The average win rate of players is close 50%. The casino offers dice and slots, so you don't play against other players there, like when you play poker or bet on sports. The casino starts with a million dollar bankroll and after the first week there are no big winners or big losers, but casino makes money on every game, so it's up $10k.
A high roller comes and manages to win $20k, so 10k out of that will come from the pockets of other players, but where dos the other 10 come from? Yes, the casino's bankroll.

If you were only claiming other people's money it would be impossible for a casino to be in trouble or go bankrupt and things like this happen.

In the past month, when a similar topic was created, I did say that if running a casino company was not profitable to the owners, new casinos would not emerge, and other exiting casinos would have actually gone bankrupt for paying more of the winners. Gambling is a game of luck, and it's known that casinos are usually the ones that make more profit in the gambling business than their customers. 

Your statement that the money that some gamblers win is not the money or property of the casinos seems unclear. If a gambler goes gambling, they already know that they will either lose or win the game, so if they decide to gamble and lose their money, that money automatically becomes the casino's own, and you can't claim back such money legally or through any means unless you are lucky to win a jackpot, which is a very huge amount that could be higher than all you have lost so far. 

Many people are usually aware of how the business of gambling is run even before they decide to stake their money. 

I agree with you on this op, casino owner made more money than gamblers but some gamblers will not know until they begin to see some gamblers that lose from their gambling, I don't think I will be able to recover from what I have spend since I started gambling, and my budget everyday is $5 daily on gambling whether win or lose I will still gamble the next day to try my luck again.

 I know that some gamblers use to win big money from casino, but you cannot use it to compare thousands of gamblers that lose every day and, even though the casino owner lose a day from the casino center, it will not take him or her days to recover the money from other gamblers that will lose.

However, we must mention that casinos are businesses that are run to generate profits for their owners. In order for a casino to continue running, of course it has several workers who must be paid every month, and to be able to have an operational permit, of course you also have to pay taxes every year, and in order to attract customers to visit. place or casino platform, then he also has to spend some money to carry out promotions. So it would be a bit of an anomaly if the profits obtained by visitors were greater than the profits obtained by the casino itself. However, a casino has a budget that must be spent, whether every day, week, month, or year. And when these expenses are not balanced with the profits obtained, of course this can cause the casino to go bankrupt. And this is what makes a casino continue to compete to attract as many customers as possible so that they can continue to reap bigger profits. And after all, the casino apart from being a gambling organizer is also the holder of the gambling system itself, and it is impossible for anyone to create a system that can harm themselves.

To be honest based on my knowledge I don't know but I have some guesses that yes it's always casinos because as far as I know casinos are built and design to win. Eventhough some players win occasionally, the odds are designed in favor of the casino. But casinos also have to spend money to run their business like paying staff and maintaining the building etc. So while they do make profits it's not as straightforward as always winning compared to the players. But still for me its always casino.

Of course it is casinos. The idea of house always win simply proves that most of the gamblers are losing often than with winning. Gamblers are just up with quantity but if it is profit then a casino will be more advantageous; transaction fees, losses, and the likes. However, if you're  gambler you won't percieved it as gamblers vs other gamblers but rather, gamblers vs the casino itself. Casinos are most of the time winning over those who are losing and that's just how a business work; citing the demand and targetting it for gains. As long as there are gamblers who are winning, then others despite of loss, will continue playing for the sake of getting the same fortune. As we all know, no matter how hard you desire to win, if you are unlucky then things would either be the same or worse. Minding the gambling site of earning more will just stress you out. You cannot force gambling to be in your side but you may force oneself to be preventive of the outcomes.

This is only true on the games in which you compete directly against other players, as it is the case of poker, however for the rest of the games you are competing against the house and whatever money you may get comes from the casino, now some may think that since the money of the casino comes from the money they can get from other players, they can make the case the money comes from other players anyway, but this is not true as the casino first needs to win that money and then lose it to you.

That's right. It is a business venture if people do not lose money, they will be out of business in no time. I think that the business model is quite simple, "we win most of the time. That the winning is split between us and the gambler 95: 5" In this day and time, casinos are the most profitable venture that one who has the initial capital to run can invest in. There are millions of gamblers visiting the casino and the house will always win.

The who fact. In fact they are making money more than just from the deposit alone. This is a very lucrative venture.  Still, the onces which remain unprofitable which I know there are, are the ones whose bad reputation precedes them.

The answer is already obvious - if it was gamblers then you won’t have seen many people opening their own casino. If you do a computation between the wins and losses of all gamblers you’ll see that the wins are just little and that does not significantly affect the overall performance of the casino.

Aside from what has been mentioned- there are still some few gamblers that have managed to stay on the winning side of the game and those are either just lucky or know how to make good analysis (in cases of sport betting) and the percentage of such gamblers are less than 20% (which might be too high here).

If you have to ask this question you have missed the simple dynamic between gamblers and casinos. There's a reason that the owner of Bet365 got paid out hundreds of millions in profit just from a single year. It should be plainly obvious to anyone that casinos and sportbooks are pure money making machines, the only competitive element in the equation is the rivals they are competing against to drain the wallets of gamblers. In that regard even a few points extra on the bookmaker odds that are on offer will over time sway more gamblers towards a certain gambling site. The players are just simple puppets that have the odds openly presented to them and they still choose to pour their money in.

Casino is a business, so it's their priority to make money out of the gamblers and they will not allow any gamblers to take advantage of their platform and this is the reality. Casinos will always be the winner at the end of the day and gamblers will be the one to suffer a lot here. There's a lot of casinos today and that is because the money is big in casinos, all they have to do is to create a good platform with a good capital, and within a year for sure they can have a good return.

Casinos operates just like the sayings that says " Rob Peter to pay Paul" that is all about gambling. You know one thing that gamblers fail to understand is that the odd always ends in favor of house  which is always a norm in the casino space. This is amongst the reasons why gamblers are advised to gamble with what they can afford to lose.

Casino are always in the winning side of it all because they are a running venture and would need gamblers loses to fund the house so I that case, the odds goes majorly in favour of the casino as it was designed in that way.

There should be some percentage going through the casino's treasury and for that the rest are being circulated among the gamblers, I have also been wondering about this as well since series of people keeps gambling especially when a casino or gambling site have lot of traffic and users who are active gambling over there. This clearly shows that casino aren't losing that is why we find more of them flowing in every days, So as a gambler you need to be strict on your allocation to gamble otherwise you are directly paying other bettor's who happens to win that day or week, most time when there is a massive winning some of the casino's find's it difficult to pay out their gambler because they don't have enough bettors who are betting with their platform.

I didn’t think that anyone would have such questions, but there is an explanation for everything. I am sure that if a casino does not make money or is unprofitable, then there is no point in it and there would not be so many of them. The creators of this business are far from stupid people, I think that the casino benefits much more than the players. I have no analytics or evidence or research, but this is my opinion

Let me use the forum as an example. We are seeing different gambling sites coming to the forum to make advertisements. If casinos are not making money, then you think new ones will be created. Having a gambling site is just a business, if they are not profitable, they will have stopped it. I can say the gambling site owners are the ones that are always making cool money, they are the ones that are always having a higher percentage. That’s why they are always spending huge amounts of money on marketing.
 
If I will say, higher percentage of gamblers are always losing, and even if they are always winning, the amount of money they are always winning is not always much, just a few gamblers are always hitting the jackpot, and it’s not something that happens frequently.
 
If gambling sites subtract the amount of money won by gamblers from the amount lost by gamblers, any amount left is owned by them, and if we are honest, people losing in gambling are higher than people winning.

The casino never loses isn’t necessarily true. They’ve been cases of casinos trying to wiggle out from paying out a huge win won by a gambler. If such payments are made, it could have a significant effect on the finances of the casinos hence the move to try and withhold payment.

But I would say the casinos are the biggest beneficiaries as they’re clearly in it to make money. They’re a business themselves and definitely can not afford to run at a loss. They’re in it to make profit and hence, would ensure they get theirs. If it’s not so profitable, why do we see new casinos pop up every now and then?(some with the bad intent to gather enough customer deposits to steal and flee).

Of course, all advantages are with the casino, maybe they can lose to a whales in a single night, but definitely there are more gamblers that are losing big money too. And again, it's "house edge" - statistical advantage that the casino has over players in any game, slots, table games, roulette and others. So they are going to keep profits no matter what and it is expected that they will win against us in the long term. And that's why there are a online gambling casinos that are born and we have seen it's growth throughout this community. Also, there are gamblers every year, maybe in the thousands, so whatever casino losses, they can gain it back from new members trying their luck every day.

But it's rare that many bettors won in a span of 24 hours that might impact the position of the casino in my opinion. They might pay huge win, but obviously, in the next couple of hours they can get it back. And we have heard stories of gamblers winning huge amount and then losing it back to the casino in matter of minutes.

It's business after all, they are into it and making money from all of us. And I do agree that even in a competitive niche like this one, we have seen a lot of them joining and trying to get a piece of that huge pie, which is a billion dollar business. So in the end, it's us that are losing here, but then again, since time immemorial, gambling has been with us and it's part of human's history.

No matter how hard you try to deny it when talking about profit comparison its the bookie who always benefits every day compared to player  we must realize that our goals as player and bookie are different because we as players are just looking for fun and expecting luck in gambling but it is different from the bookie who makes gambling a business so it is certain that with this difference it can be seen who will benefit .

So in this case there is no need to look further because in plain sight we have also seen the differences that occur in this case which in my opinion does not need to be debated anymore because everything is very visible because it is definitely the bookie who benefits from the gambling we do .

The casino takes it all, at least that is how their system are developed to act and react to the market,  many time the house edge comes into play in many factors and at all games, i notice some unpleasant outcome of that in sportbets even though sport bet in not an in house games, the book makers still have hugh advantage over the gamblers.


For example last time i bet on a clubs to win, and after the bet i was already in winning right from the first half and up until 90 minutes plus i was a still in winnings which should have close my bet and give me winning,  but in the added extra 10 minutes, the other club was able to equalize the goal and the match ended un a draw, and the book maker refused to pay me and vioded the ticket as loss.

I've seen casinos go bust, their coffers emptied by lucky streaks that lasted too long.  The doors close the lights go out, and the party's over.  Meanwhile, other joints seem to do nothing but print money, the owners getting fat and happy off booming business. 

Of course, there is a house edge. But that doesn't mean that some lucky players can't beat the house after all.  You win some, you lose some - that's the way she goes in the casino business.  Goes to show this industry can be fickle for both sides.

Absolutely yes! Because if they are not earning or on the positive end, they will go out of business. So players should accept the fact that if a casino or bookie is still surviving and doing their business, it means, they are generating good revenue. What is the reason why they will put up a business? Of course, to earn money and talking about good money or profits.

We don't need to look far on why casinos are winning over gamblers. Because that's their business. If the casino is not earning their revenue, then they won't survive and so where will gamblers play? This actually not a question anymore. If you try to beat the casino, then you may likely end up bitter at the end of the day because you won't, unless, you will hit the multi-million jackpot or at least hundreds of thousands of dollars of winnings.

Yep, Casino is a company, as long as someone gambles in a casino, it won't go bankrupt. What makes casinos go bankrupt is when no one gambles there, when they spend a lot of money on promotions but no one gambles there. Just like other companies, what makes them go bankrupt is when no customers come

Of course, the one who benefits the most is the casino, their algorithm is definitely more profitable for the casino than the players

We wont really be thinking about this matter. Its not our business on how much they do earn. It all matters on how you would really be making  yourself to be in control on the time that you do gamble.
Of course they are really that making money and good revenue because if they arent then we arent seeing those charts rising up year by year and since it is really that rising which simply means that
it is really just that an easy money for them because of peoples greed and this is something that makes them longer on this business. So its not really that something new.
Its common sense that casinos are on advantage but actually we arent forced to gamble in the first place so i dont see it is right to blame.

Even though there will be lots of big winners on that particular day, it's not the situation every day.

Still, more gamblers are losing day by day fueling the gambling site's revenue and overall profit. But does it make sense to discuss that casinos are more beneficiary compared to gamblers? The casinos are businesses and gamblers are using the service. These are the partners in the ecosystem of a casino. Casino businesses won't spread and grow if it's not profitable in the long run.

Exactly my friend, the point is that the real profit is for the casino itself and not for the gamblers, and logically no casino would be able to survive this far if basically gambling can really provide someone with income, and maybe we have often heard and seen the fact that losses are much more common or dominate than wins and that means your losses are profits for the casino and that's what casinos are really looking for.

So this is the reason why as you said that it is better and indeed more advisable for anyone to make gambling nothing more than a place to find entertainment when you have boring empty time, because after all the idea of making money by gambling will never work considering that the purpose of establishing casinos is to make profits for their own industry and I think there are also many cases or incidents that we can make evidence that when someone is too serious in their gambling activities based on the aim of "earning" then they usually end up suffering a lot of financial problems whether it's getting into debt or running out of all the assets they have.

But unfortunately most people who have just come or beginners they misunderstand what the odds mean, they think that it is very easy to realize the chances of winning in gambling when indirectly it is actually just a temptation so that gamblers can act aggressively or excessively in terms of pursuing something that actually does not have any certainty at the end of the session. So in essence, I hope that whoever it is, especially those who are new to gambling, will look at various sides rationally and consider it carefully before it is too late and regretful.

Of course, a casino also has and implements a system that regulates how a casino can still make a profit. And I think, even though a casino has given a number of big wins to its visitors, on the other hand the casino will also still make a profit. Because this is one of the promotional strategies carried out by the casino to attract new visitors so they can bet at their place. why is that, because later the winner will indirectly help promote the casino he visited by telling about his win to the people closest to him or those around him, so that the win will become a word of mouth story which makes the casino even more popular and make other people interested in visiting it. Especially in today's digital era, and with the addition of cyberspace, information can spread quickly and become viral.

A casino can never lose, because they are in control and have a set of rules for their visitors. where this rule was deliberately created to generate profits from casino visitors. So it is mandatory for us as casino visitors to gamble appropriately, namely by not expecting too much and pursuing profits by gambling, because after all that is not possible unless we are really lucky to get a big win.

Ever heard of the saying "The House Always Wins?" it's cause they do. Even when you win huge wads of cash. The thing is, the amount of people who win within the casino is for the most part controlled, but the amount of losers in a casino will always be at a massive disparity against those who win or breakeven against their bankroll. When you or someone else wins, you can bet your bottom dollar that not only will the casino have a piece of the proverbial pie that the winner's gonna get, they are also going to make sure that the losses they incurred from granting the winner their prize, they're going to get from someone else.

Which is why I don't really see how supporting a casino works, if anything the only benefit that you're ever getting from the casino is the variety of games to play against and the sense of security knowing that they won't dupe you out of yoru winnings (at least for the most part). Also partly the reason why I got into the gambling business in the first place. My friends marinated me into playing with them knowing that I don't really play back then. They painted the picture of us playing with each other and using the casino as a medium, and had assured me that it's just our money that's going to be played with. Could be the same for other people in here as well, especially those who got into the gambling world because a friend of them invited them to play.

Of course yes, that's why the house Advantage exists , in fact the casino is Always going to Guarantee its Profits, in this Order of things have to be like this because it is a business, it is a business and therefore they are pre they will have that advantage that is something that we must see and analyze properly, for those reasons we as players, we must always see the best to do, in the casinos we must always be more astute and intelligent, because it is very easy for us As a player we lose money and that is not the idea, we have to consider and develop that type of compensation.

For that reason , every time we play and win we have to make a withdrawal when it is made at least the minimum because the money has to be felt, we do nothing by leaving it inside the casino because at any time it is not lost , that Everyone should know that the players that he dared to do something in the casino.

So in casinos we must be very Careful , money is the Only thing that Matters, in a Casino it doesn't matter how good we are at a game or how much we know and how we master it, for me what makes a person Successful It is that you Earn money and that you Leave with a positive Balance , and if not , at least that you save only the money that you have to lose and that's it, not that you leave without money totally Decapitalized and it is something worse and everything is a problem for your life, That's what you should avoid, at least things can happen that way and not think that the Cash Register is like an ATM.

Those who see the casino as a form of income are very Wrong , it is the worst Thing that can be thought of in Fact.

Money means nothing to some gamblers, and to them the satisfaction they derive from gambling is enough benefit for them. The benefit from the services that the casino offers and the casino benefits from them from their patronage. The two parties are winning, so that is okay. The casino is providing a service, a form of avenue for fun, they deserve compensation, and that comes from losses of the gamblers. It is only gamblers who are focused on winning money that loose in gambling, for gamblers who just want to have fun, they win even when they loose money.

Yes, they are.
Just look at how much bonuses they are giving out during monthly and weekly bonuses. It may be worth millions of dollars if they have more than millions of players. Where do you think they will get that? From their own pockets? I doubt that.
House edge. Even if let us say 1% - 2% house edge on each casino game, that will still be a lot when combined and that's just the tip of the iceberg. There are sports bettors where high rollers are also playing, if you check the statistics and history of a gambling site you will see how much money is moving on every game.

Casinos will always be the winners in this business but you will not feel it as a player. Gamblers are on the path of trying to win against the house so whenever they win a small amount it would give joy to them but if we play longer, that's when this house edge will kick in. It was never meant to be felt by each gambler but there will be times you will definitely find yourself having difficulties winning at every casino game you will pick.

In the end, even though casinos indeed have a very bin influx and outflux of money out their accounts, they will always remain as the biggest beneficiary of their activities, even if some gambler hit the jackpot in some rare occasions, most of gamblers lose money in the long term and those who do not are not very consistent gamblers (like those who would engage in it several times during the same month).
The successful casinos are more than just some institutions which recycle money or make it flow between winners and losers, as soon as they start to operate and stockpile some money, they quickly use those assets to build resorts or diversity their company, including restaurants, pools, amusement attractions, among other things...
Though, I have seen some exceptions with casinos which donate all their revenue to charity, in those cases there are not chances for the casino to expand, but even though they do not stockpile money, they won't go bankrupt.

You must remember blaming is a business and in the case of gamblers being the clients or costumers, then there is no way the business losses money. No one starts a company for them to lose.

Casino games was based on the prediction,So the gamblers who want to make the money in the short period will choose the gambling casino games.Because the casino games was always unique one.If the gamblers had learned the game,it was the enough one,because the game should be remembered by the gambler till he use the real money.Some gamblers play the casino without the real money to learn the game.The experience gamblers use the free game in the gambling,the strategy in the gambling on the casino was more important one.The gamblers strategy will help them to make the money in the gambling site,to find the game the gambling strategy.The gamblers should apply the money to find out the strategy really work out the game win,if the gamblers find the extract strategies for the game should keep the strategy in their mind.The gamblers sometimes uses the gambling to recycle the money in the way to build their own money and try to multiple the money for 2-10x of their initial money used in the gambling site.The gamblers who made the money winning will be the star and acted as the example for the other new gamblers.

Well that might be true since there are actually running a business and in business sometimes the owners too themselves are accorded some degree of losses but like you said most times they are the ones with all the benefits and thats why there are more casino coming up everyday although am aware that there's also an handful of them claiming to be legit too but their intentions are actually to scam and leave their customers in the dark but even with that the loses are more with the gamblers than the other way round.

The casino was built in a way to make money only if the gambler use the good prediction,If any wrong prediction happened in the gambling will leads to the entire loss,the casino game was the risky one compared to the sports betting.In order to avoid of risk in the casino game,most of the gamblers uses the sports betting as their game in the gambling site.Because by knowing the football players details and the football rules the gamblers can make the continuous game.The most of the sports betting was made on the football game.Because the sports was the unique game many gamblers uses the odds of betting to make money in the sports betting.The gamblers sports betting was the easy way to make huge profits only by knowing the game of the one team participating in the particular game.Because they were bet on the one team which make the winning,the winning team also give the money to the gamblers who made the betting on them in the gambling site.The gamblers in sports betting will use the odds of the experienced sports betting people.

In the world of gambling, casinos are the undeniable victors. While there may be a few gamblers who walk away with substantial winnings, the casino always emerges as the ultimate winner. This is primarily due to the casino’s advantage known as the house edge; it ensures that more money is earned from bets than paid out to winners.

An expression of the advantage known as a “casino edge,” or sometimes called “the house edge,” represents the distinction between winnings that are paid out to players and all stakes brought in by bets placed. Applied to every game of chance played in a casino, this particular edge is an outgrowth of the mathematical and statistical principles serving as proof positive that any given casino will, in time, always turn a profit.

There are people who can make money. More often than not, casinos turn out to be the ones holding the biggest returns in terms of money, and as a result, this sector becomes one of the highest-earning in the field of entertainment and gaming.

That is correct. The maximum the casino does is to allocate an initial big investment from their own pockets to start the platform's bankroll and afford potential short run losses the house may face due to lucky whale gamblers hitting the jackpot. But on long run it's a safe business, since the house edge factor is playing on their favour and will inevitably lead most gamblers to losses, which will be useful to reinforce the house's bankroll and generate profit from that moment on. At some point, the casino won't even be using its initial investment anymore to keep the business running, rather they will use only money from players in loss to pay winners.

The casinos are always in advantage and that is the reason why they are willing to operate on this industry, because it's profitable. If it weren't, the gambling industry wouldn't exist anymore and people would have to stick to PvP gambling among themselves without any middlemen and modern platforms involved on the process. It means it would be much harder to gamble, because there wouldn't be a common place for different gamblers in every corners of the world to come together in order to bet.

Yes, casinos earn way more due to the presence of house edge.

Remember that casinos are businesses that people invested on. They are still a money-making business for some other people, though it may require these owners some capital in order to continuously fund for advertisements, promotions, and jackpots.

I do agree with some that it mentioned that casinos are profitable due to their very nature. With its rampant growth over the past years, the influx of online casinos is nothing but proof of its profitability across the globe.

In the gambling industry, winning and losing has become common thing because the result of gambling is that even if you don't win, will definitely lose, the difference is the number of losses will suffer and the number of wins will receive.
Everything will depend on how much money is used, if only use relatively small money then the loss will certainly not be so disappointing and vice versa, but with small betting amounts it will be very rare to get big win.
A win is just an amount of money which is small return for gamblers and after win of course before or later at another time we can experience more losses, from here the thing that must be paid attention to is to accept every loss as much as possible.
We as gamblers can never really get definite profit from gambling and if we calculate it in more detail then there will only be losses from each betting session carried out.

Of course, the casino or house edge is the party that benefits the most in this industry because they do business and we are only customers who use their services to get entertainment and satisfaction.
Gamblers have guarantee of losing while the casino is place that will always be able to collect certain amount of profit from each gambler loss, but if we gamble just for fun then all this will never become complicated problem.
It depends on how we respond to it and have an approach to gambling.

Beneficiary might not be the right term but rather that's how business works.

These casinos were established as a business. As a business owner, isn't it just common that you will make it profitable? That's the reason you established a business in the first place. Since we are talking about casinos, where should they get their daily revenue? Of course, from their customers.

The more they attract some users, the bigger the expected money that will go to them since the house always wins.

And the cycle will just repeat and repeat and repeat.....

You have also answered your own question. The gamblers and their winnings, based on my own assumption, are not even up to 10% of what the casino's make in a single month or day; that's, every day, winning from gamblers is not up to 10% of what the casino gets from all the gamblers that same day. 
 
The casino's are always on the winning side; only a few gamblers are able to even win up to the amount that they have lost to the casino back. The rest of the people are just rotating around what they have spent and what they are yet to spend. At the end of the day, they go home with little winning and the casino with the bigger pocket.

What do you expect? Business is business no matter what it is, and casino is one of them. Of course, they have a system wherein they can earn so that they could sustain their business. And about the winnings of the players, if you know how gambling works, you know that no matter what amount or how many players win, the casino will not be bothered because what gambler wins is the money from other gamblers, and OP is right about that. Casino has a cycle where there will be a winner and a loser, and those excess money will go through the casino, and also every game there will always be an entrance for the casino and also in a specific game. So I think casinos are more beneficial in terms of profit because it's their business, while among gamblers there is a cycle because there will always be a loser and a winner.

Casinos never lose. Casinos provide a place to gamble for gamblers and provide the best service to gamblers so they will still come to their place. Gamblers who cannot control themselves will only experience defeat and not just once but it will be a losing streak.

Yeah, the casinos remain the biggest beneficiaries because they own the business. We, as gamblers can only control the gambling game and don't need to spend all the money. Gambling is only for entertainment and we should also be able to use it as a place to have fun. If there are people who use casinos as a place to make money, they should immediately change their mindset.

We will difficult to get big wins from casinos. That's why we must be able to limit ourselves from chasing victory. If we win, that is enough for us to stop the gambling game. If we lose, it is also time to stop gambling.

Gamblers are going to lose or win depending on their luck, sometimes gamblers are going to make a huge amount of money, and there are times for sure that gamblers are going to lose, but the casino is always making money as a business as long as there are gamblers that are playing casino is always going to be profitable, I mean its a business so there is always profit that is being made if no profit is being made then casino business is not going to run for. We don't know how they are managing the money or what kind of scheme they are running in the casino, but in my opinion, they could easily make money, I would say that there are probably a lot more losers in a casino with a few percentages of winning and making a profit. If that is the case for sure they are always making money, some people are going to think that they might be bankrupt since one people win a huge amount of money but there are probably 30 people who lose before that guy wins if we are going to put it on a perspective that is probably how they can make money.

If I am not mistaken, there are some casinos that also losses but only for a brief amount of time because the casino only profits in long term and they will not going to lose as long as they have hump amount of bankroll they will not lose. Technically, the gambling sites are business sites and they will not open up a business if it is a 50/50 risk, they are not gamblers but rather businessman. Though we can see a lot of people that is winning a big amount but you won't realize how much is the profit of the gambling sites.

Not all games are played against other players. If you are playing poker at a casino, then you are playing against other players and the casino doesn't release money every time somebody wins. They will instead make money in every game.

But if you are playing slots for example, you are not playing against other gamblers. You are playing against the casino. Of course they have an advantage because they have the house edge but you could also be lucky and win, even the jackpot. In that case the casino itself will release money for you.

They didn't really lose then at the bigger picture because they still are able to get the money back from the other gamblers that are constantly losing their money in their casinos, it's like there's 1 winner but there's still about thousands of people that are losing their money on a given day anyway so whatever the casino loses from that 1 winner, they're probably getting it back quickly so they don't mind. You've said it yourself already, they won't go in if they know that they're not going to be profiting much from it, I think that there's only two time that a casino can be considered losing more than their gamblers and that is when the casino's frequented by cheaters or card counters and the casino doesn't do anything about them in any way and the second one is when they go bankrupt and they end up closing shop, it's a win for gamblers because no one can take their money away for awhile now because the casino has closed.

Most casino aren't losing as we have more gamblers losing than those that are winning therefore the casino will always be in profits. Some days they don't have to touch their reserved to pay out the wins for the day as they have many gamblers using their casino but when they start to get less customers coming to gamble on their casino and those active gamblers playing are winning they'll be the one losing which is the reason behind casino spending money in advertising to bring in customers.

If a casino doesn't have customers they'll have to stop operating unless they'll be operating at a loss as they'll also have to pay their workers, maintain the machine if it's a physical casino and if it's an online casino they'll also need to spend on maintaining the sites too therefore a casino need more players losing than they're winning for them to be in profits. Gamblers don't have an advantage than casinos.

Yes, casinos usually comes out on top in the end. They always make money because casinos have an edge which ensures that they will profit in the long run. Even if sometimes, some players win big, the casino still makes money because there are lots of other players who plays in their platform.

In general, it's always the casinos who win over the gamblers. I think it's not a question of who wins more between gamblers and casinos because it's obvious. If the gamblers actually win more, then casinos wouldn't have survived.

In reality casinos are getting bigger and bigger. They're growing in numbers. More tables and games are added. Casino resorts have become more and more amazing and expensive. The gambling industry has grown into hundreds of billions. It has now thrived offline and online.

Although there may be a handful of gamblers who won more against casinos, the rest are all contributing to the casinos' revenue.

Casinos is always going to come out a winner in the end. They gotta pay for all the freebies they give everyone, all the employees, the utilities etc. A big winner isn't uncommon, but for every winner there are 1000 losers.

Casino never loses, not in the sense that the house always wins but because they were able to fully maximize their marketing strategy and lure more users to their platform. Even if the house always wins but marketing is poor, the casino won't reach more audience to try the platform. Gamblers playing at the casino can considered consumers in the market industry. They are the primary source of income of the casino platform and without them, the casino won't be able to operate fully at their best.

Don't also just look at the casino remains the biggest beneficiary because the larger the casino, the more it needs manpower. The gambling industry is one of the industries that provides more jobs for the people especially land-based casinos.

That's why they love to build a business like this since they can assure to get profit from the gamblers who play at their casino and the thing they need to do is to build a reputation and market their selves so that they can get a lot of players to gamble on their casino. But it doesn't mean the casino will always win that means the players will automatically lose. It will always depends on how the gambler take  responsibilities on the action they have done since if they are responsible enough to know what is excessive for them for sure they will not suffer those heavy losses and possibly they can outsmart those casino then take those good wins.

If they are gambler maybe they should erase the thinking where the casino will always win but rather they should focus on their game since if they entertain the other thoughts in mind then maybe they might get disappointed and think about that they had been cheated.

The casino can pay $1 Million winnings to the gambler, but people didn't know the casino already make $10 Million profit from the gambler's loss. Don't underestimate every $10 you lose for gambling, if there are 1K people like you, the casino already make $10K gross profit.

So it's the casino that winnings more, that's why bankroll investment is more make sense to make money than gambling.

Of course yes, if the casino is not the most profitable party why would they open a casino business in the first place? No matter how much money players make, the casino will be the one who gets the most money, because they are a business, and the goal of business is to get as much money as possible from their customers.
They not only earn money from money deposited by users, but also game odds, food and drinks, game volume, etc., try to combine all of that, how much money can they get from their business.

Definitely the casinos because if they're not winning then casinos would've been a thing of the past plus most people that get into casino business are devious people that wouldn't blink or shed a single tear even if someone were to bet their whole life savings to a bet that they thought is going to bring them the win that they've been looking for in awhile now. Maybe on an individual level, we can say that gamblers are winning more but in terms of profitability in gambling, I'd say that the billions of dollars that the casino owners is enough to settle the debate on which side always wins, there's a saying that the house might never win always but it will almost always wins eventually.

The most realistic house edge is around 98% the gambler takes only 2% of his wagered money. Casinos generates lots of money across the world, and the players are just given a tip of the iceberg. That's the game, and the players need to stay prepared not to lose much to the casino. Players who want to win more than the casino, fetches most of the money for the casino. Thereby, helping the business to move for more people to participate. However, gamblers are not expected to go for the money, since they are aware of how casinos operate.

The reason why there are not so many casinos in your street right now is because it requires a lot of money to start the business, mind you, this is one of the most lucrative business in the world, if done the rightful way, you have no idea how much a casino is making per day when they have good numbers of customers.

If it's easy to start up a casino business everyone would have become a casino owner, the requirement is what's stopping majority of people, it's not easy, but if you can pull it off in a right way you will make crazy amount of money, every day will be a blessed day for you and your families.

Casinos generate more money than gamblersz and they are on the safest side, this should be enough for people to be careful with gambling, casinos are sure that betting on luck won't always favour the bettor, with that, they will be able to make a lot of money, from those buying their fantasy every day.  

I think OP is not familiar at all with how casino work. Casinos earn from every bet. Either you win or lose, the casino will take a tiny part of it. Look at the casino not from a place where you can win or lose money, but as a intermediary, that take a bite from any food that comes through it. In particular, it does not matter for the casino if a gambler came and won a thousand from one dollar bet with first try, because before that they have take a cent from millions and millions of bets that others have made.

this is one of the few questions where the answer is obvious. and it's a topic I always repeat when we talk about gambling.
you can certainly win, but in the long run, the more you play (compulsively) the loss of money and lack of fun is practically certain.
just look at how many gambling companies are created and how many profits they achieve every year

The idea of your statement makes sense in this case, casinos take advantage of all gamblers, which of course is like what you said, if there are thousands of people who lose even $10 then it is clear that if you calculate it the number is very large, and one of the reasons why casinos can pay for the winnings achieved by the gamblers because their profit income is much greater than the expenditure to pay the winning gamblers, and this losing cycle does not only happen once or twice for one person but it is very frequent if they are gamblers who quite active and this means that the amount of profit that the casino manages to get is very large.

With this it is clear that the aim of the bookie in creating or establishing a casino is to benefit themselves and not the gamblers, therefore we often hear from several people who have proven that losses occur much more often than wins which will only happen occasionally when you being lucky. Logically, if there is no profit for the casino then it is clear that most of the casinos will not be able to survive this far in running their business, and the reason is because this business is very profitable for them, and also now we know that it is the casino that makes more profit, so if you gambling excessively and not being able to set limits at all is the same as you enriching the casino.

That's what makes this business very tempting so don't be surprised if lots of casinos appear because this profitable business competition is what makes people want to build their own casinos, we all know that casinos will never go bankrupt as long as there are still lots of active gamblers there because they spin money. they are in the casino so that the casino manages the circulation of users' money well, without having to spend money to pay them, in fact their money is rotated for other users.

What you say is true, that there is a circulation of money in it so that the casino will not run out of money as long as there are still many people gambling there. Unless the casino is relatively quiet, it will usually go bankrupt by itself. Why is that because there is no money coming in to play in it, so the casino they only lose when they don't have active gamblers, that's why to provide comfort for their users to continue actively gambling they always give lots of bonuses or some kind of cash back, including VIP bonuses for loyal users and others.  ;D

Recycling the money the players have invested? ;D This is the weirdest way to explain how a casino works. First, betting money on gambling games isn't an investment and second, the casino doesn't "recycle" money. It just makes money out of all lost bets.
Yes, the casino always wins in the long run. I don't know why did you make this forum thread. If the gamblers were winning more, the casinos would simply go bankrupt. Gambling is a zero sum game, just like trading on the financial markets, but the risks are way higher(the risks are for the gamblers, not for the casino).

As there is always a house edge winning over a gambler, we should just take it as it is that we often loose than we win when gambling and i don't think that this should be a problem onus since we are well aware that gambling should be for fun, when gambling, we should avoid being too desperate for a win, this will shift our focus on the fun benefits and advantage we had in it to how much we are able to derived from it.

That't it. The casinos always win, that's their business; and the gamblers, well, the gamblers gamble, there is no better definition.

Who's winning more, then? generally speaking casinos win more. There are a few cases, though, in which a few very lucky players win extraordinarily big prizes, and in these cases maybe the gambler is winning more than the managers of the casino itself, but by risking more than them too. But in the long run and following the theory of big numbers, the house always wins.

You just have to check the Gambling section of this forum to see the new casinos creating their announcement not to mention all the new casinos that prefer to promote on advertising networks and casino review sites.
The casino industry is a multi-billion dollar industry, two decades ago online casinos did not exist but now they are the top online businesses that generate multi-billion profits it's a steady climb of these online businesses, every businessman's dream is to create an online casino and to have a slice in the market I think the conception of Cryptocurrency have helped the popularity of online casinos.

Gamblers will continue to gamble and there are new gamblers daily looking for a casino to play, they don't care if they can make money from gambling all they want is to play regardless if they win or not, so between gamblers and casinos it is obvious who's winning between the two.


Online Gambling Industry Doubled in Four Years and Hit 176M Users and $95B in Revenue in 2023 (https://focusonbusiness.eu/en/news/online-gambling-industry-doubled-in-four-years-and-hit-176m-users-and-95b-in-revenue-in-2023/5452)

Of course there would really be still those huge winners or someone who do hit up those jackpots just to make it look legit and something that could boost up gamblers emotion because on the time that they would really be seeing that there are lots of losers and only few winners or even doesnt hit up some nasty jackpot then they would really be surely lose their morale or their dedication to play. This is why there would really be those winners and there would really be those losers. It is really just that the ratio in between sides are really just that too far gapped and this is something not shocking.

This is why on the time that you do gamble then you shouldnt really be making yourself that anticipating on becoming a winner or someone who do make profits in sure manner.
Dont make yourself that too optimistic on things because once you do have that kind of mindset then it would really be just that making you desperate.
This is why it would really be that best that you should really be having that realstic approach and would really be acting out accordingly on what are the things that you should really be doing.

Well, I haven't read much here about this topic or maybe it's just covered by new topics? Anyways, So some people ask because they are curious as to who actually earns more? The answer is really obvious, but considering the payment of tax, rental spaces, employees rate and other utilities expense, we are not sure who is making more money, right?

We can say that a casino platform is a service provider, however, it is not easy to establish one or even build a reputation until it becomes big.  apart from the initial logistics that they invest, there are various mechanisms that are not as simple as we think and are not as easy as playing every game or feature that the casino provides. so, we have to draw out the common thread first, so that we know how this process works and becomes a profitable business. apart from that, tax revenues for local governments and so on. so, in essence, it is not as easy to set up a casino as we imagine. For every profit generated, part of it will be allocated according to its function.

Well, now we refer to the title of the thread and the content of what you said in this post. it can be said, what is said can be justified. however, it's actually not as simple as you say, IMO. besides, I don't know exactly how to explain it properly. because, I am not part of the officials or someone directly involved with a casino platform. well, if you refer to it as you said "So the casino remains the biggest beneficiary, right?" yes and no. I don't know for sure, but it is clear that this business is very profitable. and don't forget, that there is a budget that must be allocated for other things, including taxes.

Both the casino and the gamblers have an equal share of losses and profits, so it is quite difficult to know who benefits more between this two. A casino whether online or not is just like every other businesses out there.  Profits can come from rich irresponsible gamblers who place huge bets and lose consecutively. That is a huge win for the casinos but It is not all the time they get to take good profits from the losses of their customers (gamblers), casinos too experience losses from too much cost of operation and sometimes losses arising from getting to pay a gambler a huge amount that is way beyond the casino's capacity, especially if they don't have enough customers to compensate for these expenditures.  Casinos actually do go bankrupt, successful casinos have put in lots of resources to see to the success of their business.

Gamblers too are not left out. Winnings don't come all the time and when it finally comes, it might take a long while to record another win. Gamblers actually do make huge wins from gambling but many others aren't just lucky. We can't really tell who benefits the most between the Gamblers and the casinos but we do know both have their challenges.

Casinos make money, not charities. They play to make money, not give it away. They make it by the truckload. Simply put, this is about the house edge, not recycling money. Every bet and game is structured to favor the house. Suppose the casino never loses. That's not just a statement; it's true. They've optimized the lighting, noises, and odds to win. Big successes we hear about? They're bait to keep you playing for the big prize. Who wins more? It's not gamblers. Casinos, hands down. Profiting has become a science. As for us? We play their game, sometimes up, sometimes down, always at a disadvantage. The pill is hard to take, but we must.

The balance of wins and losses between casinos and gamblers is not equal, with casinos generally earning a profit over the long term. Casinos operate on the principle of having a statistical edge in the games they offer. This advantage is built into the rules and odds of the games, ensuring that over a large number of bets, the casino will profit. The statistical edge varies depending on the game and how it is played, but it is always present to some degree. For example, in American roulette, there are 38 possible outcomes (18 red, 18 black, and 2 green). If a player bets on red or black, they have a 48.65% chance of winning (18/38). However, if they win, they are only paid out at even money (1:1), meaning they get their original bet back plus the same amount as their bet. This results in a house edge of 5.26% (38/700 - 1) for this particular bet. Over time, this small edge adds up, allowing the casino to earn a profit from these wagers.

Even though gamblers can adopt strategies like card counting in blackjack or searching for looser slot machines to potentially increase their chances of winning, these tactics do not eliminate the statistical edge. In addition, casinos often take measures to counteract advantage players or tighten slot machine payouts to protect their bottom line. This ensures that they are more likely to earn a profit than gamblers in the aggregate. The fact that the casinos are winning in the cold war is why they are still in business and even expanding.

Not all casinos make big profits even though they have the same idea in this business. Some of them have to lose because of the large number of winnings that need to be paid, while other times they make a profit. I'm not talking about casinos that have high site traffic, but I can imagine that some of the new casinos that are starting to struggle in the industry will have to go bankrupt and stop their activities.

So if someone assumes that casinos never lose, then be sure that they are not completely right and not completely wrong. There are many casinos that lose and are unable to pay out gamblers' winnings, they damage the reputation they have built, but there are also casinos that are hugely successful and able to survive in the industry in the long term.

i agree with you, casinos are businesses and their goal is to be able to make money from the businesses they build. they develop games with algorithms that benefit them, and various other things to make them more money. so who benefits from the start is the casino, no matter how hard the players try to get money from the casino.

For me, I will say both the casino and the gambler because if both of them are not making money that is why casinos are still available and gamblers are also gambling they are both benefiting from each other and it is good that way because aside gamblers benefiting from casinos, the society is benefiting because they are paying tax to the government and the money is used to establish something that will benefit the society, but people are always fond of misusing everything that is the same thing that is happening with gambling, they misuse it in the sense that they want to make money from it at the expense of losing everything and they don't even care, all they want is they want to make money from gambling. casinos are making money too in reality and at the same time people are winning and people are always losing and people that are losing are more than people that are winning, so to me, everyone is still benefiting my problem is that are addicts.

What you said OP, and together with something similar to a service fee called House Edge, is why the casino always wins. Otherwise, you wouldn't even see a casino being a viable business without such a thing since they'd pretty much bankrupt whenever someone wins big which can be rare, but it can happen. And with how most people rarely win, they pretty much have enough funds to support in the case that someone does actually win big later on (though I reckon they already have said funds at the start just in case).

In the first place comparing a casino, who's aim is to profit in the long term, to a gambler, who's aim is to get lucky to profit all at once, is stupid. They both have different goals and different ideologies in terms of "profiting", if you can even call gambling as one in the first place even.

If you check the stats on casinos there are more losers than winners the stats always favor the casino, its a fact so never dreamed of beating the casino in their own game and their own house just be satisfied with your winnings don't aim to high.


The only time the casino loses is when players are moving to other casinos, which is why casinos should continue to market their platforms, those who can market their platform effectively like signature campaigns and banner posting are likely to lose players, and when there's big issues about the casinos that they can not resolve like a legit complaint, the players will stop playing and transfer to other casino, to avoid experiencing the same situation.

The casino get the biggest money and enjoy the winning. Many gamblers will lose their money, especially if they can't control themselves in gambling. One by one, those gamblers will feel the lost and will become bigger if they can't realize. Yes, we agree the casino never loses. This matter need concern from many gamblers so they can change his minds not chasing the winning and just enjoy their free time to gambling.

Yes, we can win but if we can't hold ourselves by quitting gambling and just continue to gamble, sooner or later, we will lose all of the money. At that time, we will only regret it because of our greediness tempt us to chase the bigger winning. If you can't stop yourself after losing some money, you will be the next gamblers who lose all money in gambling.

the reason why casino gambling still exist year after year is basically because they are still making profit out of the business and profit only suggest that you're on the winning side. What Makes it look as though thier win is unsustancial is basically because  some gamblers are winning while others might b loosing but at the end of the day the casino owners are always on the winning side.

I think it's not just thousands of dollars that enter the casino; it's millions of dollars, as far as I know. And when the management of a casino platform is good, that's really what happens in the cycle of a casino platform in this industry.

The money paid by a house or casino actually comes from the money of gamblers. That's why it seems like nothing comes from the casino owner's own money, and that's the reality that happens in the world of gambling.

There is this saying in gambling that "You can't win the house." This is not a lie because you can't expect someone or a group of people to establish their gambling business and expect them to lose. If they lose, it can only mean that they will pack off the business and bury their heads in shame. What do you think they will answer people if they ask them why they failed in gambling if it's about the winning of their customers that sends them out of the business? Well, those who are entering the gambling business are not foolish, and the huge gains they are recording can only explain why there are so many of them these days.

Every year, if not not thousand, I am sure that hundreds of new casinos or close to such would be registering, which could only mean that they are gaining in the business. Because no one will just venture into a business that is not lucrative for them, they would have done their feasibility studies to know the worth before they risk their money on it. So, someone would now expect them to be losing? That's not possible. Casinos are wired in favour of the house, though people will be winning as well, but it can't be as much as people would now win more than the house. I suspect the sharing formula of 75%/25% in fair casinos. Though this can't be the measuring standard, however, depending on the casinos, it's still very okay because they will have a lot to spend money on while making sure that their customers get the best service possible on their gambling platform, even as they treat their partners and employees nicely for smooth running of their business.

It is like asking which is warmer, the sun or the ice at the North Pole. Of course casinos earn more, but for nuance we could say that it is not easy to set up a casino, otherwise everyone would do it, because it requires a large capital to start, and it is not easy to run because you can also go bankrupt. If you have the capital, you put the effort and you hire competent people you will have a cash cow but this is within the reach of few. What happens sometimes is that a big whale comes along and has a good run that makes you lower the bankroll you have, but in the long run a casino that is moderately well managed is very profitable.

There's a discipline that the physical casinos displayed in those days. When they sense that a lot of people are now mastering their algorithms, they change the software in form of CD plate back then, These Casinos should have that practice, they should have more than one APIs that feeds their gambling platform, switching between them will neutralize any form of familiarity with the gamblers.

Naturally, even the physical casinos I used to patronize before switching to online have not been reported to be at loss, so I'm just surprised to read in the comments sections that casinos actually suffer loses to the extent of bankruptcy. When they suffer loses, a  pepper review should be done on their software to limit the chances of a win, else they would be out of business ASAP.

It is known by most people that in games of gambling people coming out with a profit are low, if we put 1000 people playing for 10 years, after 10 years we ask how many people came out with a profit, and when I talk about coming out with a profit I mean I mean the person makes calculations of how much money they deposited in the casino during the 10 years, how much money they lost during the 10 years and how much money they won during the 10 years, so when the person looks at the money they won minus the money they lost they will see if they are with profit or loss. but it is a fact that of those 1000 people only less than 20 people would make a profit after 10 years of playing, few people truly understand that in gambling they will hardly be able to make any profit

Now if we set up 1000 casinos and operate them for 10 years and after 10 years we ask the owners of the 1000 casinos how much loss they made and how much profit they made, the answer will be that more than 900 casinos made profits, so we make a comparison of 1000 people playing for 10 years and only 20 made a profit compared to 1000 casinos that operated for 10 years and more than 900 casinos made a profit. We can easily see which party is really making a profit, the casinos, the betting houses are the ones that make the most profits in the market. gambling, while players are losing, even with losses they will continue playing because they have hope that one day they will be able to win a lot of money

I agree with you, if the casino was not profitable, how would it be able to operate and bear the obligation of bills and daily expenses. There is even an expression that sounds very funny: If you entered the casino, then you have already lost. Of course, this cannot be applied to all players, because of course there will be those who can win, but whether he can keep this winning and bring it to the same casino to lose is the main question.

I also remember that gambling income is constantly increasing from year to year, except for the coronavirus year. This means that more and more players are losing their money, so these statistics completely answer this question for us.

in normal circumstances whoever that is into casino gambling know quite well that casino gambling have a different strategies and it has advantages and the disadvantages which you may fall into the advantages and also may fall falls in into the disadvantages of it so that is the area or the dimension I always emphasize on that we should know our limitation in gambling and also know the statistics whenever we are into gambling because in Casino gambling there is no Assurance of winning that is no Assurance of losing so this are the two things that is involved in gambling

Sometimes it even amaze me to see that people actually ask these kinds of questions because the clarity to this is too vivid, if you are a gambler and you have a couple years of experience then you would definitely know that the number of people losing is wide against the few numbers making money.  Although I have heard of some people who actually can run a casino broke and even at that the casinos still find out their account and block them because they are using arbitrage system and I know of a close friend who even go to the extent of people creating accounts for him on this particular casino just to cheat the casino with his winning.

Casino's make a lot of money, i don't know the in and outs of the business, but it is certainly not all profit for them, they also make losses that you probably don't see. Take note that many gamblers also win money daily, you just have to gamble responsibly like i always say, it is very difficult for an irreponsible gambler to make any profit, if you wager on a game and win, take the profit and do something else, to come back later, do not put every of your winning straight back into another game; there should be an interval between games.

The house always wins but also we should not undermine the possibility of the gambler also winning, but not up to the house, and the big question is if gambling os not profitable, why then do people keep gambling,  and if the casino always takes it all why cant the gambler just give up.
I know the fun and also addictions are vital strongholds that hold the gambler to the casinos, or even the hope of winning is what keeps us going, but in all the business of the casino is to make profits and that is what keeps them in business,  so they will always have a way to generate that profits by all means possible.

Actually the gambler and casino sites doesn’t make money at a same time.But both of them will make the money in some time for sure.Because when the gamblers loss,the money goes to the gambling site.If the gamblers won,they get the money from the gambling site.In this way both the money transactions will be balanced.In some games the gambling sites only get the transaction fee for the transaction between the two gamblers.They get some money for hosting the game between two gamblers.The society get benefits by the gamblers because of the taxes paid by them and to the government from any purchase even by buying land using the money from the gambling sites.The gamblers can make a profit or winning from the gambling site,if they try to misuse the same with the greedy.The gamblers will take big risk in the many games,it may leads to the gambling loss.So they will loss the money which they deposited in the gambling sites.So the less greedy people will earn more is the fact.

You don't need to ask because it is obvious that casinos earn and gain more benefits than us gamblers. That is why they exist and continue doing their business which simply means that they are profiting. Perhaps, it was already acceptable and sometimes we even can say that there is manipulation. However, we know gambling is all about having luck and our chances are very slim which really gives a bigger chance for the casino to earn a lot of money.

But why are people still gambling even knowing that we only have little chance of winning? We are not actually aiming to beat the house but gamblers are targeting to hit the jackpot prize. Some say they are doing this for fun which means that they will accept if they lose.

That's the point because after all its a business and in a business of course they don't want losses because after all they set up a situation for profit and of course they will win if they talk about profit because it is a certainty.

In the event that you've got a lot of time on your hands, you're going to want to make sure that you've got a good idea of what you're getting into.
The cycle continues to spin because after all we cannot stop such a cycle considering the gambling setting or those who do business in gambling are like that. So that no matter how much we win in the end we must realize that players cannot beat the bookie so that regardless of when we win or lose the bookie or site owner will still win and benefit from the games we play on the site or casino that they manage.

Many people playing in casinos acquire the hope of winning. For some people, hope becomes much more important than winning, which is why we return to the casino again and again after another loss. In addition, while gambling we get the dopamine that our brain likes so much. In my opinion, these two factors make us accept the fact that the probability of winning a large sum in the casino is quite small.

Obviously the casino is winning more than the gamblers, otherwise the entire business model of a casino would not even work in the first place. So the question itself is a bit moot, don't you think?

House edge means that, mathematically, the casino will win more often when you look at the sum of all games played by the gamblers within a longer period of time. Thats just what probability does.

Although there is a subset of gamblers who win more often than the casino. But that is a very small subset.

That is surely a fundamental truth about the gambling industry, its primary goal is to generate profit. Casinos and gambling establishments are designed to tilt the odds in their favor that ensures that over the long term, they come out ahead financially. The cycle of gambling, where players may experience wins and losses, ultimately benefits the house or the site owner. Regardless of individual outcomes, the odds are structured in such a way that ensures the house maintains a consistent edge. This is a fundamental principle of the industry.

Players may experience temporary wins, but these are often offset by losses over time. The allure of potential winnings can sometimes cloud judgment that leads gamblers to continue playing in the hope of beating the house. That's why people need to approach gambling with a clear understanding of the inherent risks and probabilities involved. By recognizing that the odds are stacked against them in the long run, gamblers can make more informed decisions about their gambling activities.

Simply put casinos will never lose because they build and design their own systems that will be applied to several types of games that are provided for gamblers to play, while all gamblers play in all types of games that are provided by the casino with the opportunity to win and lose, I am not saying that gamblers will not win because after all casinos do provide opportunities for anyone to win but the problem is that getting a win will not be as easy as ending the session with a loss, and maybe we already know that  most losses will occur more often than wins and the reason is clear as you said that casinos create gambling to benefit themselves and not gamblers.

Yes it is true that gamblers only get temporary wins because in the end as many have happened that they put the winnings back into gambling which sometimes they also bring hope or increase hope and confidence to be higher to be able to get a much bigger win, one of the reasons is because you have also said that the attractiveness of gambling can cloud judgment  and can also eliminate a person's level of awareness. On the other hand, the right understanding is something that is recommended to every gambler, but sometimes even though they already have the right understanding, it cannot be denied that in the end there are some situations that can make them forget about the actual concept of gambling which in the end they fall  into gambling without applying any restrictions, but yes, this is gambling which is an activity that can stimulate the human brain and mind, so the solution is to apply firmness to risk management and also the understanding you have.

Many people always hope of winning from gambling but only a few of them can really get their win. But when they always hope to win without realize that getting win is not easy, they will not stop their gambling activity before they win. Even if they can win, they will not stop and just continue playing gambling because they want more winning and at that time, they become greedy because hoping to get another winning. Yes, our greediness will comes and seduce us and tell us to continue playing gambling because we will have another chance to win. But that will not always happen as in the gambling, our chance to win is not bigger than the loss. We must realize this and always control our minds so our greediness will not posses us.

The fact that we see Casino coming into this industry year in year out should tell you what kind of business environment is available.
And another indicator to look out for is seeing for how long these casinos remain in business, had it not been a profitable business for these casinos we would have seen more shutting down more frequently . But a duel between casino and player is certainly a one way decision as the house always wins and they win always win this battle.

I think this kind of question has clear answer, the casinos wins more because the house has an advantage against the gamblers due to its house edge of the games.
Even if there is no house edge such as in PVP poker, the casino still win more than gamblers from the rake from each hand.
I have no idea about the percentage to compare between the house and players, but I think only few percents players who can win make make a life change from gambling but still, the casino is still a profitable business.
Lets say there are some big winners in a casino but the casino can cover it with the losses from many other gamblers.

why is there more and more casinos here maybe that indicates that this one business does make a profit and also I think the casino industry will always win,  because the casino is the host,  of course they set up the casino to make a profit from the many people who play at the casino..., Therefore I think the host party always wins in the stakes including with profits  because it is impossible for casinos to establish this business but it is not profitable for them it is very impossible of course the casino's goal is to seek profit from many people,  and with gamblings where this attracts many people because it has a big chance of winning makes many people  want to gamble in the hope of getting a big win. the profit they get may be a lot of money.

The benefits obtained by them may be a lot  because in their casinos it is impossibles for only a few to gamble.  and also with casinos that advertise bonus promotions or others  of course it's not free  they advertise it using funds  but I'm sure the funds used to advertise it can be overlooked by the number of people who gamble especially nowadays there are a lot of people  who gamble because they are interested in promotional advertisements or bonuses launched by the casino  I think people who own casinos are smart because they take advantage of the large number of people because it is impossible from the many people who gamble at one casino that a large percentage of them get a win  even the percentage who get a loss is more.

I think so, but it's not that simple, there are many things we don't understand if we have never had experience as a casino owner, what you are telling me is the simplest thing, besides if it is not profitable the casino will go bankrupt, there are other income such as deductions. bets, and transaction fees and much more

No one comes to a casino with the hope of losing, so I see this as mocking some gamblers who are only trying their luck whereas many of them are not engaging it foolishly. I know that general advice is not often perfect for all cases, and at times, those you believe were greedy could hit the Jackpot simply because they did not quit easily. Gambling stories could either be ugly or be worth wishing for, it's not always about the bad side of the story the way you make it look.

Fine, a gambler can win or lose, with no certainty for either, or do you know what the outcome of the next game would be? That is why I don't mock those who are gambling to try their next luck, it could indeed be their luck. But peradventure it wasn't their luck, that doesn't mean that they've entirely failed, it could only mean that it's not their time. But what I do not support in gambling is for gamblers to do it senselessly, that's very bad. You do not just gamble without having your budget and plans, everyone must know how gambling works so that they can safeguard their portfolio.

The gamblers who entered a casino or opened a gambling platform with $50 should have plans for it. It could be the plan and budget of gambling 10 times before all the money would be exhausted if such is unlucky. In this case, the gamblers can't be mocked since there was a plan and purpose for the gambling, and even for the money to gamble with. It's only when such shifts away from the plan that blame should be apportioned. Now, how do you know a gambler has a convenient plan when you generalise it?

Of course the casino will continue to receive profits from gambling players. What you need to understand is that the biggest win for us as gamblers is to stop gambling. For casinos, they are not afraid of their players winning big, but the casinos will be afraid if the players stop...!! So it can be interpreted that the casino will never make a loss, because the casino is a business and of course a business will always make a profit because they created the system. That's why to this day I still believe in the words "No one gets rich from gambling except bookies or casinos".

Winning and losing in gambling is uncertain which can result in the gambler gaining or losing money. Gamblers have no fixed income. But a casino owner or gambling platform owner has a passive income through which he can grow his money. Moreover, we call the casino owner a businessman, the more clients he can create, the more money he can earn. Business and gambling are not the same thing. Although the average gambler can own a huge amount of money by winning the jackpot. But it is uncertain. People who don't have regular income can never make much money. Of course a casino pays a lot more than a gambler. It is said that the house always wins.

         -   Obviously, casinos often win; they always have control of the game for gamblers who use their platforms. That's why, often, the ones who lose are their gamblers. Because of the losing gamblers, that's where they take what they pay their few winners, and the casinos are left with a lot of money.

And if there are gamblers who win large amounts of money, it is because they may have been really lucky, especially if slot games are the source of their luck in winning. And this kind of scenario rarely happens most of the time.

I will also say that casinos are the get most beneficial so we can surely say that casinos are win here. Casinos has only the investment of standout the casino and after that they get the cash from gambler on sitting. And on the others hand the numbers of winners gambler is pretty less than the loser gambling. So it is clear that who are winning here casino or gambler obviously casinos.

Making it as an income? You are taking some suicide on which gambling shouldnt really be treated up this way because if you do then dont get shocked that in later situation in life you would really be finding yourself getting wreck with gambling and this is the time that you would really be having those kind of self realizations that you shouldn't have done that and this is something a very
normal approach by most gamblers. It is really that obvious that house is always been the winner in the end of the day, its existence is a solid evidence that they are indeed making good money and with tons of platforms and physical places then it is really just that safe to assume that they are milking out gamblers.  8)

It is very obvious that casinos are in the winning part, because if they were losing from the business, they would have probably quite the business. But as long as they keep on expanding the business, that truly mean only one thing, and that is they are making lots of profit from gamblers. No matter how much you win from a bet you can't possibly empty their account. Just as the op stated, you are only taking your wining from other people's loss, so the casino is not affected by your winings.

Casinos are considered to be the most profitable business in the business industry. Certainly because they make sure that they always win by ensuring the odds of winning are always on their side. Even if gamblers win huge amount, casinos won’t easily go bankrupt because as long as there are losers, they can easily repay those who are winners. While gambling can make you an instant millionaire, the chance to lose is also higher that will make you homeless on the spot.

However, if you are gambling just to have fun and you’re gambling on your spare money, I don’t see it as a real loss. In fact, once you benefit and enjoy the games in the casinos, you are already in profits, even if your funds are slowly running out. Just don’t try to beat the casinos, as the house has always its winning edge over its players.

Every gambler who plays must have experienced victory because if not it is clearly something impossible because it is certain that the site or casino that is used as a place to play will be abandoned so there is definitely a victory that can definitely be achieved, but on the other hand, it is only a sweetener because we understand that in the end, any victory is only to make gamblers feel at home there and maybe as you say it is only an inducement or temporary because it will definitely run out again considering the concept in gambling for players is definitely more losses. Rather than winning and that's for sure.

But things like this can only be realized by some people who gamble responsibly and know what they are doing, so even though the concept of gambling is like that, they still play because the purpose of gambling is to have fun and consider profit as a bonus.
The problem is that many are naive about this and say confidently that they beat the gambling site or beat the bookies but do not realize that it is a trap to lull us into a false sense of security that ultimately results in greater addiction.

Where have you seen that? What you are talking about is pool betting/parimutuel betting and it doesn't concern casinos but sport betting. There are only few games at casinos where you get the money of the other players when you win : Poker and slots with progressive jackpot, otherwise you are always playing against the house/the bank, call it as you want and if you win too much, the house can decide to stop playing with you, and close its doors. At decentralized casinos you get the money from investors in the bankroll/liquidity pool but not from the other players.

The same way gamblers are making money that's same way casinos are making money from gamblers. This things happens frequently and we need to understand that there are people that will lose and people that will gain along with the casinos. Gambling is all about earning and losing. We can not be winning everytime, there are time we could lose and there is time we could win. This is why we could go to a physical casino and bet and win and the second time we might lose but casino will keep winning continuously. All we should be after is to keep trying our best to keep winning.

No doubts in the game of gambling the casino remains the biggest investor and the they make the most profit than gamblers do because they are always at the advantage of receiving the money a.d the chances that people win is much less than the chances that people loose, loosing is much easier in gambling than winning and so that's why the casino is at advantage most often the. The gamblers.

The recycling of funds from the gamblers continually keeps the casino at the advantage of making more money a d even when a gambler wins, the money paid to them is actually that of another gambler and since there's much more to keep the casino will still win because the gambler loose most times moe than they win so only a few gamblers could be winning and the rest could be loosing making room for enough fund for the casino to be able to pay regardless of the number of winning they get a day

In reality, casinos and gambling sites benefit from casino gambling. Moreover, the gambling and casino sites that have the approval of the government definitely benefit both the government and the casino authorities. In no case the authorities of a casino and gambling sites face a loss because the investors in gambling are always at a loss. To get government permission for a casino or gambling site, it is necessary to accept permission by paying a large amount of tax. In this case, the government always receives a huge amount of tax from that casino or gambling site.

Yes that makes sense, and I quite agree with your idea that gamblers will be more likely to maintain a site that can really give them a win especially in a large enough amount and sometimes they are also very likely to tell some of their friends who are also gamblers to try the site that gave them the win, like promoting. Honestly, I'm also not too interested in sites that are difficult to win, although basically I don't prioritize winning but still when the few games I tried on the site went very badly and quickly reached the point of defeat then usually I would immediately leave it and look for another site, because with the game ending so quickly in the sense of losing then I really couldn't feel the excitement and enjoyment of the session and maybe some other gamblers also did the same thing. Overall, it is true that everything that looks tempting there is nothing more than a temptation or sweetener that can make gamblers more comfortable or even make them feel too confident so that they do some actions that are actually beyond their abilities such as increasing the amount of bets.

True, most of these things are only realized by those responsible gamblers, because one of the reasons they can be responsible is because they have a correct understanding of what gambling is so that treating or responding to gambling as an entertainment activity is prioritized over pursuing victory which is actually a very difficult result to achieve and will only happen by "chance".

If a gambler doesn't wants to looks stupid, they must manage their time to playing gambling so they don't have to losses much money. A gambler should be wise to playing gambling and not just chase the win but trying to enjoy their time to playing gambling with limitations to prevent the big loss. They don't have to hit the jackpot because that will be difficult so it's better to just enjoy and have fun in gambling.

No gamblers will know when they win or lose but that will not be a matter for gambler who still want chasing the win. They will still try to play more games to chase the win, even if they will use more money, they will not care. If they can manages their money and know how much money they can spend, they can try to chase the win because they can control themselves and know when to stop. But if they just chasing the win without controlling themselves and without limitations, they will lose more money and that will be bad for them.

It's better a gambler know how much money they can use to playing gambling so they can sticks to their rule to preventing the big loss. But most gamblers forget to sticks to their rules and trying to serious in playing gambling because they want chasing the win. They will not have a chance to controls themselves in gambling because they will face a loss that can comes many times. If that happened to them, they better to realize that they must quit gambling before it's too late. Every gambler should make a plan before they start gambling and know how long they can playing gambling and how much money they can used.

There should be no doubt about this if gamblers were winning more than there would be no casinos around anymore as all of them would go bankrupt, but if you do a survey, maybe only a few casinos might go bankrupt in their lifetime and that is only because they don't know how to manage things initially because if they manage things in a good way, they are never going to go bankrupt and their treasury will always have more money than their gamblers can win.

Casinos have algorithms and systems that allow them to set how much money a gambler can win for them to still stay in business after that. All their wins and jackpots and stuff are all decided after careful consideration and they aren't just allowing everyone to win as much as they can, there is always a limit to that which most gamblers barely notice or understand.

Casinos and sports betting involve risk, just in different forms. In contrast to casinos, where the final result of gambling in a casino is almost entirely influenced by luck, this is not the case with sports betting, where many factors can influence what the final result will be. both starting from the condition and abilities of the teams and athletes we support, the weather during the match, as well as our ability to carry out match analysis.

However, it all comes back to each individual, because everyone has their own preferences in choosing and selecting the type of gambling they like and often play. And whether it's betting at the casino or betting on sports, it's a good idea to be able to control those activities well, so that we don't let the money we have be spent on something we're not sure we'll do. get. Because both casinos and sports betting, both industries were built with the aim of making money for their owners. And no matter how good our strategy, skills and abilities are in gambling or betting, there is no guarantee that we will always win and make a profit. All the efforts we make, whether in gambling or betting, are all just to increase the chances of producing better gambling or betting results.

The players have no reason to think that they are making more wins than the casino. Casinos don't manufacture money from anywhere else other than making it through gamblers. The business requires steady income, which happens on daily basis, per minute, the casino make money. Gamblers barely make reasonable wins per day. Most gamblers make a big win maybe once in 2 months. The casino has covered for all the profits, then offer the gambler some wins, to make him continue gambling. However, all we need to know as gamblers is that the house edge has been programmed that way and nothing can be done to change it.

Unless a gambler takes advantage of a spoilt slot machine, he wouldn't make a huge win in one day. Finding out of the malfunctioning machine, can be rare, but sometimes the casino forgets to check all the slot machines, and the lucky gambler can take profits by using such machine. Although it's not common but can be seen a bonus strategy of winning big from the casino. Unfortunately, I've read of a woman who was denied of her wins, because the casino figured out that the machine is malfunctioning. That was big problem, which was taken to court, yet, some casinos, always find a way to escape paying gamblers who has won big.

Not exactly, if a casino was using an algorithm like that, sooner or later a skilled gambler will notice the pattern in which this happens and use it to their convenience, what casinos use to make sure they can obtain profits is the house edge they have on each game, as over the long term they should be able to obtain a profit as long as enough gamblers try their games, however make no mistake, casinos are like any other business and they can disappear for a multitude of reasons other than losing to their clients.

The answer always is the casinos.  If the casinos are not winning on a consistent basis then they will simply go out of business.  Don't ever kid yourself differently.  What you want to find is a casino that stands by their cash outs and provides an entertaining experience.

I doubt about that. In a legit physical casino, especially if the name is big and popular, all machines are regulated and follow a fair system. These machines are undergoing regular maintenance and calibration to ensure the fairness of the game. A casino that already established a big name in the gambling business will not ruin its business by cheating its players.

Gamblers lose because of random algorithms and fair chances and not because casinos have to set it on their own for their benefit. We should not blame the system whenever we lose but accept the fact that gambling won't be called gambling if winning is just an easy piece of candy.

Casinos don't rely on individual wins and losses to make money. They have a built-in advantage called the "house edge," which is basically a small percentage they keep on every bet, regardless of who wins. It's like a tiny commission they take for letting you play.

Sure, some casinos might go bust due to mismanagement or bad luck, but that's not the norm. The vast majority of casinos are thriving because the house edge, over time, consistently brings in more money than they pay out in wins. It's like a slow and steady stream of income, even if there are occasional big payouts.

It's important to remember that casinos aren't out to get individual players. They make their money by attracting a high volume of players, some of whom win, but most of whom lose, due to the house edge. Think of it like a buffet - everyone gets to participate, but the casino, like the restaurant owner, makes money by providing the service, not by hoping everyone overeats.

So, while it's true that some players win big, it's crucial to understand that the casino business model is built on the expectation of winning, not the possibility of losing. They're not relying on luck; they're relying on the odds, which are statistically in their favor.

Sole gamblers can win over the casino but that’s the minority
Probably not even 10%
The casino needs some big winners to attract players and to use it as marketing
But don’t be fooled
The house is still the biggest beneficiary

Just that common sense, because if these platforms or business arent making money or good revenue then they wont really be flooding out into this gambling industry on which we are really that looking the opposite.

This is why it would really be always important that you should really know on what you are dealing with and better not to make yourself that delusional as a gambler because this is where people do make
these gambling site owners or platforms or physical casinos to be profitable just because of those kind of unrealistic goals. I would say 98% are losers and 2% are those winners who do make
out those kind of flexing with their wins specially on to those times where someone do able to hit up some progressive jackpots.

This what makes this cycle continues just because there are those kind of hopes on which it do fired up gamblers mind and dedication for them to
continue further on which most of them ends up on getting addicted in the end of the day.

Greediness is one of the most serious dangers associated with gambling. People are often so caught up in the excitement of winning and the possibility of more money that they lose sight of the very real risk of losing everything. It's almost like a drug: the more they win, the more they want to keep playing, and the more difficult it is to quit.

However, it is possible to enjoy gambling as a form of leisure without becoming addicted. One of the most important things is to regard gambling as a kind of fun rather than a source of income. This entails creating a clear gaming budget and sticking to it, no matter what occurs. It also entails establishing a time limit for how long you will gamble and not allowing yourself to go past it. Another thing that can assist is to make gambling a social activity rather than something you do alone. Playing with friends or family might help you keep things in perspective and avoid getting too caught up.

For me this is a very obvious question, those who win more in a casino are the same casino, because they will always have an advantage over them, the so-called house advantage is very obvious that they will be the unhappy winners, they win every moment that someone starts playing, and that is something we all know, we cannot think that a Player will Earn more than a casino, no, that is something almost Impossible , Therefore when we are Seeing what the casinos can do, it is a large amount of things so that they always win, in every game they win, and they are the owners.

If I start a company and for myself to win, not to help others win and for me to lose , that is Not logical, it would be very stupid for anyone to start a company and believe that things will turn out well if they lose, Well, it's Simply going bankrupt, so for me it's obvious that there are Players who have very high profits, yes, but that doesn't Mean what they're going to win in money at a casino, no.

I'm not gonna bluntly accept that to be the fact even though I know statistically, there's no way a casino would be paying winnings from their pockets - it's gotta be people's money... The whole concept is that for everytime you lose, the casino gains... Publicity making, advertisement, maintenance, staff payment etc .. are all among the expenditures they make either on a weekly, monthly or yearly basis.
I'd say YES! To any regular gambler, there isn't any hope of winning when you wager on games, but there's enough assurance that you'll certainly lose.

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While some casinos go bankrupt others are striving and making big bucks. I'm not sure if we can check anywhere how many casinos there are in the world, how many of them go bankrupt every year, and how many of them are making a big profit, I guess it's even trickier to follow up some stats on crypto casinos.

So who is winning more... I would say casinos! If it were otherwise there would be more winners around and fewer casinos! Simple as that... :)

What is the point of your idea..

 It's like thinking that a dealer puts up his money, in fact there is a percentage that is kept for each round of betting, and in the grace of live games some take a tip.

One casino has HE one casino wins its many players percentage to 1, while the other is 1:1.

I think everyone knows or should understand these basic, trivial things.

But the casino doesn't win everytime, they have the best advantage when you place a bet but when you win that bet then you're the one in profits and the casino will have to pay you. Some casino has gone bankrupt as they don't have enough money to pay players that are winning constantly. Some players are good at gambling and they always win regardless of the game that they're playing. Casino don't like those that always win and some casinos ban them from playing in their casino.

Casino as a business is operational on profit mostly as they're getting alot of individual gambling for the wrong reason therefore they'll keep losing money and still won't stop gambling due to the hopes that they have that gambling will favour them one day. Gambling is making alot of youths to lose focus on life and the casino owners like this as it makes them to keep having customer that they'll be making money from.

Gamblers who view gambling as a form of entertainment rather than a means of making money can have times for the joy they seek. Establishing a clear budget and sticking to it helps maintain control over spending and prevents chasing losses. Knowing when to stop, regardless of whether you're winning or losing, is key to maintaining a healthy balance. This ensures that gambling remains a leisure activity rather than a consuming obsession.

Involving friends or family in gambling activities can provide a support network and keep things in perspective. It adds a social element to the experience that reduces the risk of isolation and excessive immersion in gambling activities. With these approaches, people can enjoy gambling responsibly while minimizing the risk of addiction and its associated consequences. It's all about finding a balance that allows for enjoyment without sacrificing other important aspects of life.

A casino owner can benefit from having this advantage in gambling platforms. Due to which the gambling industry has also seen a rising moment. But an owner definitely needs big money while establishing a casino. Suppose you have built a casino company, your platform has just started, a number of gamblers have joined and are gambling, how will you pay when one of them wins a big win or jackpot? Of course an owner needs a large amount of money to act as a backup. Here he can either add big reward bets late to reduce his risk and keep small gambling games so that he can get regular money. However, a casino owner gets passive income from the casino or gambling platform due to which he can quickly become the owner of huge amount of money. A gambler can never compete with the house.

Running a casino like a monkey business doesn't help the existing duration of the casino. Such casinos go bankrupt because they don't have enough capital to finance the wins of winners and end up deceiving them with a ban or allegations for breaking the casino's rules. Many reports and bad reviews will be filled on the casino, and they'll run dry of customers. A handful of gamblers endeavor to win in the casino, and it's not meant to be seen as a steady occurrence. Winning consistently in gambling, is almost impossible. Hence, a casino where players win big consistently, can go bankrupt as a result of paying too many players, thereby having nothing in return, at their end. The casino needs more money than the players, that's why the results go in favor of the house. Youths are meant to take life seriously, and see gambling as a high intellectual game, that could take down their career. 

Running or building a casino business is never been cheap and one of the main risks is that you dont even know if it turns out to be a successful one or would really be a complete failure( im talking online casinos) but if we do speak about those physical places then it wont really be that so easy on building one. Aside from being costly or expensive, you cant still assure the rate of success.
Despite on the rising numbers of casinos existence but it doesnt mean that it would really be that so simple for you to be able to make or able to have that some share of slice of the pie.
This is why it would really be  that so hard to make some assurance that you would really be able to succeed into this industry. This is why it would really be that best that you should really know
about those factors needed.

Into the words about on whose winning? Then it wont be so hard to determine that obvious answer. We do know that gamblers would really be always the losers in the end of the line.
Also, gambling isnt really that for the sake of making some income. People do usually mess up on the time that they would really be making out those assumptions
on trying out to make something happen towards gambling which we know that it cant be possible.

Yeah, and we will see a lot of testimonies from gamblers that they won against online casinos almost every day. It's so obvious because those are rare circumstances. This forum itself would see more about gamblers who are losing every day and I bet fewer can tell that they won.
Casino games are meant to make us lose, the winning percentage is way low that it's almost impossible to win against it. But still, gamblers would take that risk just to have a shot at that low chance. Who doesn't like that kind of adventure? ;D I've played so long in most of the casino games in the online gambling industry and I've seen red marks in my graph more than the green ones. It's always bloody.
So, I could also say that casinos are the winning and I bet there will be more that will be created in the future because of how fast the growth of the industry is becoming. Sports have advertisements on gambling sites from time to time and there are more new names coming out in the market.

Casino for sure. Only a few gamblers are lucky enough to hit the jackpot or even win games. On the other side, Casino will earn both on gambler's loss and win by means of 'taxes' and fees and those will be with technical discussions about how a gambling site or a landbased casino works. Now, another question may arise, why does a casino or gambling site got bankrupt? Every platform has its maintenance, employees they are paying and other services necessary to run the whole thing. If they won't get enough from their players then that would be the only time they will be 'losing' not against the gamblers but the circumstances of running one. This is the reason why they need as much as possible gamblers to play on their platform if it is an online gambling site, and establishment if it is a land based casino. However, it is not a one is to one ratio between a gambler and th casino such as if the gambler won, it would be an instant loss to the platform. It is more of a casino to number of players ratio.

casino's have high chance of winning although i have heard a person who have been ban from playing because he always wins i don't know if its just for the views name is mikki he always wins no matter what, but us i don't know we have bigger chance to lose, maybe he knew the system.

The casinos bankroll is used to fund the games and thus any win the player has is paid out from that and any loss is added to that bankroll. If you analyze the bankroll volume in the long run, it is ever increasing with the losses balancing out lesser than the wins.

However the casino exists for the players because without them the money will never flow in and thus the casino is for the players to play in. Of course the winner will always be the casino owners. ;D

So players to minimize losses should manage "their" bankroll properly.

If he played skill based games, he's just better than average gamblers, that's why he can win more than the others.

If he played lucky based games, it's hard to believe if you said he knew the system because when you play lucky based games, you won't know the multipliers you will get on the next bet. Most probably he was lucky, the gambler allow him to withdraw, but the casino choose to ban his account because they hope to not see it happen again.

Casinos act as intermediaries between users and users in terms of gambling, just like physical casino house owners, they do not provide money, they only provide space and take a percentage of the money won by users, As with online casinos, they only provide casino applications, to make it easy for users to bet.

Sometimes there are also casino owners who have a lot of capital to compete with users, of course this kind of casino has a slim chance of winning for bettors, because they have full control over the operator who controls the game, Apart from profiting through a percentage, they can also earn money from user losses, for that you can see the biggest and most investors in online casinos.

I haven’t heard about things like this before. How will a gambling site block someone’s account just because the person is always winning? It doesn’t make any sense to me because when the person is losing, they won’t block the person’s account just to stop gambling. Any gambling site that can do something like this is not a reliable one and should be avoided. If you don’t have enough money, then you shouldn’t start a gambling site, but why will you start blocking people just because they win a large amount of money? I don’t know how true it is, but I know some gambling sites are capable of doing anything for their own selfish interests.

However, the winning percentage is always much lower than the losing percentage, meaning that this is what makes most gamblers lose more than they win, there is absolutely no winning streak, although there are but it is very rare, usually in 10x attempts they will only get 1 or 3 wins and the rest lose, but it is a fact that the winning situation can cover the disappointment of a gambler for the previous defeat, or what it means is that 5 defeats can be covered by just getting one win but this is not about them making a recovery amount but rather the sensation they get can make them forget that the amount they lost is still much greater.

On the other hand I would just believe that whoever it is will only be able to win occasionally and by "chance" and there are no lucky wins in the long run, because after all this is a business for the casino where your losses are the casino's profits. I think it is a fact that casinos will always have the upper hand because after all they are the ones who create and organize all the systems in every type of game provided, or simply they are the ones who manage your wins and losses, so it is impossible for casinos to always give you a win while on the other hand their goal of building gambling is to benefit themselves, and this is also the reason why we are always advised to gamble in moderation and not to overdo it because it is like you are wasting money and time on something that has no certainty.

I don’t believe such stories because it is difficult to win consistently at casinos. Stories of unbeatable gamblers often circulate within gambling communities and media, but they should be taken with a grain of salt. No doubt, some gamblers may experience short-term success in gambling but then in the long run you will observe that the gambler has gambled away all or almost all of his winning. No matter how a gambler tries, the casino always has an edge. A casino cannot ban a player before he is winning consistently. What I know is that most bookies reduce the odds of a specific gambler who has recorded significant wins but banning a player? Not sure.

There are various reasons why someone might be banned from a casino, including suspected cheating, counting cards in games like blackjack, or exploiting vulnerabilities in the system. However, without concrete evidence, it's challenging to determine the validity of such claims.

Gambling sites operate on the principle of randomness and chance, where players have an equal opportunity to win or lose. Blocking accounts based solely on winning streaks would undermine the integrity of the platform and erode trust among its users. Any platform that engages in such practices risks losing its reputation. Maybe those gambling sites have ethics to not allow their users to put excessive bets that makes their financial accounts get messy.

However, It's well-known that gambling sites do have measures in place to prevent fraudulent activities, such as cheating or exploiting loopholes in the system. They always put financial safety as their prime priority. These measures may include account verification processes and monitoring for suspicious betting patterns. If a player is found to be engaging in dishonest behavior, such as collusion or using automated software to gain an unfair advantage, the gambling site may take appropriate actions, including account suspension or closure.

I agree with you on what you said. The casino is making more profit than the gamblers. This is because, the casino can have a high number of gamblers using the casino, and only few wins big. If you look at it from this side, I think in gambling we have more of addicted gamblers, or let me say that gamblers that sees gambling as a means to make profit, and such gamblers will keep on playing regularly chasing their loses, because they want to hit it big.

Just the way that casino pays their winner that won big, and announce it, it is the same way that gamblers lose a big amount of money to the casino but they will not announce it, because they know that it will scare their customers away. If one person wins $1m today, more than three persons will lose $1m that same day. Casinos are making huge profit from gamblers and that is why you see that the business is flourishing.

The question answers itself, if casinos were not the ones making the most gains, there will not be any way for them to remain in business for long and they will eventually disappear, but since that is not the case and each year we see more casinos appearing all over the world, this means that casinos are in fact incredibly profitable, something that should not surprise anyone as they have the math on their side, and as long as the owners administer their casino well, making money is a given for them.

Yeah, this kind of question could really be answered out with just simply making use of your own common sense on which same as you said that if these casinos werent making money then we wont really
be seeing a significant numbers as of todays on which we are seeing there are tons which do solidly means that they are indeed making money. Basing up with those industry growth which this is really that a multi-billion business on which does means that there are tons of losers who do keep on feeding these casino owners.  :D

This is why as a gambler  then you should really be that responsible on the things that you are dealing specially with gambling.Dont make yourself that getting addicted through it.
Its not bad to gamble as long you do make yourself that responsible because if you dont then you would really be finding yourself at such great trouble and this is something that you
must be avoiding in the first place. Gamble for fun and not for money.

It's always the casino that are winning. It's true that when someone wins, on the other hand, there's someone who's losing.

And all the money that's inside the casino is what we call cashflow and they're just like the mediator of it and taking commissions out of our bets everytime we lose.

So, as a gambler we win sometimes but there are more moment that we're losing so take that in mind that we're not lucky at all times. And when is in luck, do not waste that opportunity for you to enjoy and take that money.

It's an open secret about the gambling industry, so it's nothing new or surprising. We don't even need to argue about who wins and who loses between casinos and gamblers, that's because the answer is already known. It is true that some casinos go bankrupt because they don't have enough budget to pay their customers' winnings, but this rarely happens in thriving casinos where web traffic is very dense with thousands of players every day.

Casinos are the winners in the gambling industry, that's true and it's an undeniable reality. The logic presented by the OP is correct, so there is no debate on my part because all gamblers know it too.

Gamblers focused on their sector and make the best out of it while casino gamblers do generate quite huge amount of profits in the system. I can't place my thoughts right but ensuring I reap every possible means of doubling our streams in the system because I'm quite aware how difficult it can be. Making money is part of the plan. In the current space, I can't indulge in activities that doesn't appear to be running in massive profits. At our happiest moment, that's someone craving sorrows and remorseful for the wrong choices made that led to heavy losses in the system.

Yeah right.

Everybody knows that it's always the casino that wins at the end. And those winners that have bagholding profits might just go back to the casino and let them lose all of it. I haven't seen an established casino that went bankrupt because of their customers winning. They always have backup plans.

But I've seen casinos that went out of business because it's a corporate decision and they can no longer cope up with the competition in the market as this industry is thriving and too many new big players coming in.

You are correct but most times they lose heavily as well let say when someone hit more than the total percentage they have received from the casino they will have to pay from their personal pocket to those groups of people that win such sets of games, and again what you must consider about casino is that in everyday people wins it may not from your region or being you that wins but someone wins.

Therefore all this couples together, they pays out their commissions to people who are winning so what we must find out is to know how many percentage they are taking from people in every single bets and how much in total for the months / year then you would know how lucrative gambling business or not maybe to know if they are losing or gaining in the business.

Yeah, that's one thing for this business. When someone hits big, they have to pay that of course and that's going to be out of their budget which is already allotted for big wins.

They're a casino and they've got money for that matter and that's the reason why it is normal that we see them pay big because that's part of the business.

There is no need to know the metrics and numbers about commissions or winnings that they're getting, it's a common knowledge that the actually are winning at most times.

No casino don't make much as we expected most times they also go taking loan to clear some big pay out at least I have had a story then with my locality where a local casino wasn't able to pay out the winner due to their amount wasn't enough to clear the winning. Hence promised to pay part while in the late run to pay the remaining balance and the said winner refuses and took the case to court were the local casino has to short down till the winner has been cleared. Therefore if we don't know about their ends we might think they are also making huge profits with us knowing they are also losing big time that was why when gamers or bettors lose their money the casino rejoice for the lost of others because it was a plus they them.

Casinos investigate human psychology as well as gambling. They recognize that the thrill of the pursuit, not winning streaks, keeps you coming back. Yes, those successes, however few and far between, are psychological anchors that make losses look like simple obstacles to the next major win

But now it gets fascinating. Not a coincidence. This carefully constructed atmosphere has every sound, light, and action to keep you playing. Why? Because the house always wins. That's mathematical certainty, not belief. The win-loss ratio you mentioned? It's planned, not luck. Early recognition that gambling is less about financial gain and more about understanding our susceptibility to such surroundings helps us regulate our interactions with them

Even the gambling sites too go on in taking loans to make sure the are running a smooth and itch free service to their customers, the way we are at the chance of risking our money on gambling, same applies tot hem that they also can risk anything to ensure a moving operational service of their gambling platform, we are all taking the risk together and theirs sometimes could be more bigger than our in some cases.

If we have to choose one of them then I would say that it's the gambling sites who are winning more than the gamblers.
Often we find out that people are losing a huge amount of money in gambling but only a few times we find out people winning huge amounts of money.
This shows that the winning to losing ration is heavier on the losing side and so tha gamblers lose money and the casinos win.

Yes, you are right that gambling sites will not lose money because there are users who win big because gambling sites have of course won before, beating many much bigger users, usually gambling sites will only lose money when there is a hack on the site which makes them lose money in their site, but not their users, after all no casino goes bankrupt because its users win, this business is very promising that's why we find so many on the internet that new gambling sites always arrive every day and I'm sure you see them too.

I have never been involved in a casino game that is proven to be fair because if it was fair of course the casino would often experience losses too, but in reality it is the gambler who experiences successive losses in every casino game, I don't want to bring down any casino but from the experience I have played so far playing at the casino It's really hard to win, that's why I gamble at the casino just to have fun with less money and prefer to gamble with sports betting which in my opinion makes more sense than playing casino games against the machine and beating the dealer. that's obviously very difficult.

I think it an insane pattern of thinking to say that gambling will favour the gambler more than the casino,  just note that gambling should be taken as way to get entertained and anything other than that is a departure from the fundamentals of gambling,  because there is no way anyone can win over the house because at each stage you have to map out a lot of things such as your winning chances and how best you can make use of your luck to take advantage.

Before you gamble just be ready to lose all to the house,  and having such a mentality will help you not to gamble more than you can afford to lose and also not to class any direction be it losses or winnings,  just have a boundary to everything,  just trust your instincts and move.

Gambling sites and casinos, like gamblers, must carefully manage their funds in order to remain in operation. They may take out loans or utilize other financial tools to ensure that they have enough funds to keep the games running and provide a great client experience. After all, they are in the money-making business as well!

So, while you may be risking your own money when gambling, keep in mind that the house is also taking a risk by providing these services. Sometimes, these risk could be too much to bear and they'll be left with no ther option than to even close down the casino, I believe we've heard about casinos folding and going out of business.

Casino will makes huge profits than the gamblers because the casino runs the business while gamblers only playing gambling on the casinos. Gamblers can win but their winning will not be bigger than the casino so gamblers must realizes that they don't have to playing gambling using big money. Otherwise, they will lose their money and that will be the profit for the casino. Making a profit is the reasons for many gamblers but they must know that playing gambling can't give that big money. They must be wise when they playing gambling so they don't spend too much money just to chase the win because the casino will takes all of their money if gamblers don't use limitations. We will only regrets if we lose big money because we can't recover that money and even will lose more money if we continue playing gambling.

Actually we can not say that all the time casino is got a more winning money than gamblers. Cause we all know that some gamblers are too lucky Enough  and they got a good amount of winning. But not all the time. And in casino itself some of a casino are got reacher because of the management by the officials.  While there are some  casino whoa are gonna bankrupt because they didn't use their  marketing strategy. But in reality all are Base in luck . Gamblers or casino it will base in lock .

It is obviously the casinos; it is designed so that the casinos have an edge over the gamblers. They need to ensure that, statistically, they are profiting more than the players, also winning more money over time. Because how will the casinos be sustainable if they are losing to the players? If the players are always winning, then how can you keep a business like that? Also, there's this thing called "House Edge," which is the advantage the casinos have. I'll give you an example: a roulette wheel has 1 to 36 numbers, so the chances of you landing on your bet are 36 to 1. But casinos also have zeros in them, and some casinos have double zeros too, or even a triple zero. So the odds for you will not be 36 to 1; they may be 37 to 1 or 38 to 1, depending on the casinos. That is how the casinos sustain themselves and remain profitable. 
 

It could have been better if there is a legitimate database that stores the numbers of casinos in the whole world, but in 150 countries I can't out list the numbers of casinos that is working perfectly. Although if we are counting on the numbers of gambler will would say even the smallest community in your environment will provide 100+ gamblers. Not to talk about the biggest states in your environment. Let's put in USA in front, I believe we already know that Las Vegas in United States have more gamblers and 100+ casinos. Let's start with that, if the owners of each casino would be able to hire more workers in each of there casino to stand at the entrance of the casino and count the numbers of gamblers/visitors that visits their casinos everyday, we will know the actual numbers of gamblers that visit casinos. But right now gamblers are winning because there are more gamblers than casinos.

That Casino must be a new one or perhaps a local casino where the gamblers are limited and maybe the gambling casino are not so profitable. However, I have heard that local bookies (who are involved in sports betting) are very rich as they make a lot of money through sports betting and also provide the services of betting to ordinary people.

When it comes to online casinos, I guess there is a lot of money being made by the casino owners. However, due to the increase in the number of good trusted casinos, the casinos may have to spend some money on promoting their site. Even after this marketing budget expense, the profit of the casinos is awesome. However, due to the competition among the casino, they may have to give bonuses and promotions to keep the gamblers retained at their site.

This is my assumption because i do not see any casino declaring or telling how much they are making money. We only get to know how much money a gambler loses or wins (read such stories or posts) but never hear from any casino owner if he has been running a profitable business or in loss. A business in loss usually closes soon so the casinos running for so many years are for sure profitable.

Casinos aren't bastions of random chance – they're businesses designed for one thing: to make money.  While individual players might win big sometimes, the odds are always stacked in the casino's favor.  This advantage is called the house edge.

Casino games are rigged, but not in the way you might think.  The rules are clear, but they're subtly skewed in favor of the house.  A roulette wheel might have 38 numbers, but only one green zero .  That tiny edge gives the house a long-term advantage.

This doesn't mean casinos never lose.  There are lucky streaks and massive payouts, but those are exceptions.  Over time, the house edge ensures a steady stream of income for the casino.  Imagine a thousand people playing slots – some win a little, but statistically, the casino takes in more money than it pays out.  That's why successful casinos keep expanding, while others go bust.

Casinos might seem like a random crapshoot, but there's a crucial detail – the house edge.  Casino games are designed to give the casino a built-in advantage, no matter how "good" your predictions are.  Sports betting might feel more informed because you're dealing with teams and players, but the bookmakers are experts too.  They factor in injuries, team history, and a ton of data to ensure the odds are stacked in their favor.

Knowing football rules and player stats is great, but it doesn't guarantee victory.  Sports are inherently unpredictable.  Injuries, bad calls, or an off day for a star player can throw a wrench in even the most well-researched bet.   Relying solely on "knowing the game" can lead to a rude awakening. Those odds offered by sportsbooks?  They're not random numbers.  They're carefully calibrated to ensure the bookmaker makes a profit regardless of the outcome.  Sure, you might win a bet here and there, but over time, the odds are heavily skewed in the bookmaker's favor.  Just like casinos, sports betting thrives on the hope of occasional big wins, but the reality is a slow and steady drain on your bankroll.

You're right, but defining things a little more, I consider that the greater the number of people who bet on sports, since they have more possibilities of winning money, than someone who is in a casino betting on a roulette wheel or on slot machines, at least it is less money than You can win in a sports bet than in a slot, but based on probability, the house advantage is decisive in every sense, basically if an eprosn bets on whether a team wins or draws, without getting the score right, because it is something They may be more viable, but when it comes to betting to get the score right things are much more difficult, and even so a casino is more reliable to play because you can win with sports betting.

In fact, predictions and everything that has to do with football or any sport require a lot of knowledge as such, logic and many things that can be defined as technical, but it is not easy, you almost have to do an evaluation style to be able to make a prediction with more precision.

Personally, I have always said something, as long as we have a way of doing things well based on economics, for me it is more reliable, it is almost analogous to trading with knowledge, where whether you win or lose is the absolute responsibility of the player, very different from games that have to do with winning or losing by luck, such as slots, roulette, among others.

I think this is beyond debate because generally we all know that the casino is the one who really wins. There are many greedy gamblers who lose a lot in the casino because they really chase winning instead of getting pleasure. This makes the casino get a lot of profit from its customers because the more greedy the gambler is in chasing victory, the greater the chance of losing that gambler gets.

Many people are attracted to the gambling industry because of the potential for huge business profits. It is true that not everyone will get a good return on their investment in the gambling industry, but the opportunities are quite big as long as they are able to survive and compete in the market in a healthy way.

Gambling is business to the Dev that operates it and the reason they remain in business is because they can keep up with the ratio f revenue returns and that why the casino will always place the house at the best winning position all the time and only on few occasion and based on luck that the gambler wins one or two games along the line.
And also the reason why we should take gambling as for fun is based on the fact that gambling results will always and most times favour the house against the gamblers so in the end you end up giving it up for the casino just to bow to the house edge.

Games and mathematics favor the house, although all good casinos offer provably fair games, without any manipulation scheme and this is true. In the long run, the casino wins while the majority of players lose, even in games of chance in which people do not depend on luck to win, but rather depend on skills, the casino still wins while the majority of players lose losing, for example if we put 100 players at a poker table in which each player bets 1000$ each, at the end of the day probably less than 20 players will be able to leave with profits and of those less than 20 players, few will have a lot of profit, the majority will have little profit. but the casino will make a lot of profit, knowing that there are other games that depend on luck and that an overwhelming majority lose a lot

so at the end of the month the casino is the only big winner, of course the casino has bills to pay, they need to pay servers, employees, taxes, and they need to have large bankroll money, because as the casino has many players playing with large amounts of money, then the casino needs to have a large enough bankroll to pay out large winnings, such as the case where a person wins 50 million dollars and in these very rare cases, the person who wins 50 million dollars does not casino, does not want to wait a long time to be paid and a casino with a good reputation will not want to delay payment and tarnish the image and reputation of the casino, so the casino immediately pays the 50 million dollars to the winner

and these types of situations end up reducing the casino's bankroll and the casino owner probably goes awake thinking or praying that someone else won't win 50 million dollars again, because it would lead the casino into bankruptcy, so even if one Casino needs to have many customers constantly playing with a lot of money and losing, so that the casino has a large bankroll. a casino with few customers quickly goes bankrupt. So while the casino always wins when it comes to competing with the player, it is still a high-risk business for the casino owner, poor management can easily lead the casino to bankruptcy.

It seems that it is a common fact that the casino or dealer will only be the real winner, with many benefits that will be obtained.
But back again at every casino that has a different ToS, the casino also does not want to be said as a single winner, but there will be some players who become winners with high profits.

The casino provides an opportunity for anyone who will win, and this is determined by the system.
But the more greedy and higher the level of gambling done, this will only make a person more and more addicted and the system will continue to play tricks on him.

Attracted to the gambling industry as a bookie, it would be better, as casino developers would be more profitable.
Trying to build an online casino business will bring a lot of profit from every gambling activity.

It depends on how to build an online casino from scratch and do marketing.
Now many Online casinos are starting to emerge with some very attractive deposit promotions and winning prizes.

That greed is the main reason they will suffer such huge losses, as if a person that was gambling for fun began to make bets that were too high, their fun will go away immediately and they will stop gambling as they can feel they are doing things wrong, but those that are looking to make profits do not think like this, and once they have accumulated a bunch of losses, instead of withdrawing the rest and accept defeat, they are determined to recover what they have lost, an action that causes them to lose even more money.

It based on the fact that cumulative losses are way smaller than the cumulative wins from the casinos side and vice versa for the players side.

Thus the casino is always in a net profit - that is it is running smoothly and paying its employees and investors regularly. This shows one truth that is the casino will always be profitable and if you are the casino then you are the winner in the long run. With my experience in the industry, I feel that in order to make money from the casino be a part of it, dont play in it, unless you completely own it of course. ;D

Yes what you said is completely true because casino companies never give their own money to others they may give someone else's money to a loser who wins. We may never consider this thing and when we do, we don't think like you. Casino companies are running their casino platform with your money and in this case the casino company has a lot of profit. If you consider that, I will be very impressed with you. However we use gambling as entertainment, we don't think too deeply about it.

Casinos may only in the beginning stage of running the business use a part of their own money in paying winnings from players as i believe by then they must not have gotten that large number of users at that very beginning but to when they have gained reputation and saturated the market and gotten a large users thats when they have no penny of theirs in any payment to  a winner as the money for the payment are all accumulated losses of other unlucky gamblers.

Casinos has every instruments and resources they need in the industry to make them stay profitable in the market and all these hedge they possess is what a common gambler doesn't, not even a 5% of it out of a 100%, that's the reason we as gamblers shouldn't bother trying to  beat them at their own game. Just enjoy the fun, be entertained and hope for a bright luck to be on the winning side more often than not.

Nah, all the money that lose in a bet is already a casino property regardless of the source. You can’t say that your money is bank property because they are the one who print and just distribute it to other people while they collect back all the fiat when you deposit again in the bank.

This is same principle on the casino money. They are paying using their money with their bankroll while those losing bets will add on their bankroll therefore it’s already casino property. Having a logic that casino is just using other players money to pay others is not right because they have their own bankroll being risk on every players bet. Just like players, casino is risking on every players bet so they deserve to own those losing bets.

well, all the money that is lost in a casino will go to them, That's how business works, they will not agree that they will not make a profit, after all the casino companies are making a lot of money but of course there are many people who consider a casino to be paid, from rental places, employees and the biggest jackpot prize, the more that lose, the higher the jackpot prize because that's where the lost money of the players goes. what you said is right, just like the players, a casino houses also takes risks with all the players so it's fair enough.

Casino will gets the biggest advantage than the gamblers because the casino have the business and serves the gamblers with many gambling games. If gamblers loses their money, gamblers will try to recovers their lose by continue playing gambling and many of them are losing more money. But the casino will gets their customer money as many customer will loses their money and more will comes to the casino. Maybe casino lose for some money but many gamblers will loses their big money in many gambling games. If you don't wants to have the same experience, you must be carefully to manages your money and time so you can prevents the big lose. When you can do that, you will not have to worry playing gambling because you will not have a problems.

The casino is having a house edge, that matters. In the long run the house edge's effect becomes more prominent and the total loss of the players is more than the total loss of the casino, eventually making the casino profit more and thus have a positive net output. Hence the casino business is productive in the long run and it is why people like Trump have ownerships in casinos.

Be a part of the casino if you want long term profits, being a player will only bring losses if you dont know when you need to stop gambling.

That's right, of course casinos will never spend the funds they have to give to other people and they are the ones who really benefit from the many players who play at their place and the winnings that some people get are only very small compared to the money they have spent at the casino so that the party who is really disadvantaged I think is only the gamblers who cannot manage their gambling so they spend too much money on the casino and use gambling as entertainment I think it will be better for our finances and we will not be addicted to gambling.

Casino spends their funds which you can casino bankroll. They are spending it whenever players hit jackpot or bets. They also have fixed cost from their operations expenses.

They are just recovering it through the lose bets of players wagering on their casino. It’s not always positive for the casino because some them experience bankruptcy if their operation cost is greater than what they can earn in their casino. So they are using their own money but it just easily replenished when there’s a lot of players losing money.

They make sure to have a huge bankroll in the beginning so they can cover their lost amounts if a whale (big player) wins it big.They make sure to put their house edge in place which overall guarantees that in the long run it will always be the casino making money and every player knows it.The reason why people continue to gamble even after knowing such fact is that they believe to be that lucky 3-4% of people who make it big and win huge amounts in the casino,that is the motivation of most gamblers if not all of them,in reality there is stupid to think that the gamblers make more money than casinos,if that were the case the number of casinos would be on the decrease and not in the increase which we all know that this is the reality.

That's makes us difficult to win from the casino and if we wins, our winning will not too big compare to what the casino gets. We can only playing gambling as usual and not thinks much about the wins because as we knows that winning the gambling games is not easy and needs more money. Even if we used more money, that will not guarantee us can wins much money and maybe we only wins small wins.

Our lose will be bigger than our wins so we must understand that we don't have to hopes too high from gambling. It's better we try to make money from the other sources that can gives us money than gambling. We don't have to follows other people to used more money to playing gambling because we don't have the same allocations money to gambling. So we must allocate some money that we can afford.

Casinos actually do not lose, when we look at this from a general perspective or standpoint, why did I say this? In a game where 1000 gamblers played, possibly, let's just say that, 100 gamblers are winners of varying amount of money, (this number maybe more, or less), which means that the other 900 gamblers are losers of varying amounts of money as well.
And lets not forget that most games listed on the casino are owned and managed by third party game providers, this simply means that, casino are only acting as a middle men who make those games accessible to the gamblers, the casino takes a commission from every single bet placed, if and when the gambler loses the casino take their commission, and the remaining lose money goes straight to the provider of the game, and when the gambler wins, the casino forward the win ticket to the provider of that game, the provider of the game pays into the casino account, the amount of money that was won including the casinos commission, the casino then remove their own commission, and then forward winning amount to the gambler's account that won.

I am not very certain if this is how things work in the background of online gambling casinos, mostly with games like slot machines and sports betting games, but if actually this is how it all works, then it simply means that casinos never lose, they profit whether the gambler lose a game or wins a game.

It is clear that it is the host who will benefit, even though they spent a lot of money at the beginning to start a gambling business, but now that gambling is so busy, whether online or offline gambling, I am sure they can make a profit by starting this business, by those who host the gambling, the aim is to provide entertainment facilities that have the potential to win, but the victory will not be easy to obtain, because they are also the hosts, of course the purpose of holding the gambling is to make a profit from the large number of people who gamble.

I think the injured party is indeed a gambler, it's just that that's the rule, losing or losing the money staked in gambling is a normal thing, because it's certain. Therefore, they must be prepared to lose the money they bet on. and I think the ones who are disadvantaged are people who are addicted to gambling, because they will continue to gamble even though they already know that they have suffered a big loss. However, with gamblers who don't mind losing or losing money in the sense that they are not too obsessed with winning, I think they are good. - fine, different from those who are addicted to gambling and are obsessed with being able to win by force.

It's obvious that casinos makes more money than players if they are actually operating. Let's say 1000 players bet on a game and the bet amount is $10 so even if everyone bet once casino get 10K as profits and surely they have to pay the rewards which depends on their RTP of games and even if it's 80% still casino make 2K as profits from this scenario.

Whoever says casinos are fun doesnt understand. The truth is, the house always wins. It underpins their company and prosperity. You believe those magnificent structures pay for themselves? The best business is casinos, where I worked. You profit by owning, not playing.

Yes, wise money invests in ownership. Gambling all day fills their big pockets. Realize the odds are against you, not luck. The actual win is system ownership, being the home. Long-term profit is there, guys.

If casinos do lose then we wont really be seeing huge numbers or tons of them in the market or industry today but since we are seeing the different condition or situation then we can really say
that they are indeed profitable. There are those investors who do really consider on making one because they've seen that there are tons who do get addicted with gambling.

This is why they would really be taking up that kind of opportunity for them to build a business on where they've seen that there's a huge demand into it on which we know that once they've
been able to capitalized something then it might be ended up successful but well we do know on how gambling or business works on which there would really be no assurance that they will
really be able to make themselves successful into this industry. There's till so much things to consider first and they would really be needing up to be aggressive.

If gamblers were as careful as the casinos in managing their funds, there wouldn't have been much problem gambling in the world. The casino tries a lot to keep the business running. And it's not simple to operate a business-like casino. That's why the house tends to follow strict rules and places a house edge that favors them. Hence, all the house needs are multiplying their users, which means more money for ads and reaching out to a new base. It's safe to say that the casino wins more than the gamblers combined, because they run the game, and provide results. But their challenges are in the payrolls, that's why most of them go bankrupt. The number of employees is very much and maintaining the business isn't a joke. Yet, in terms of generated revenue, casinos earn lots of profits from their players, compared to players. 

It is simple logic, if the casino is not generating revenue, then, why would they continue their business? They are here because of business, so why would they operate for charity or if they are heading to bankruptcy?

Gambling business is a lucrative one, if the management knows how to run it efficiently. This is why a lot of owners are still going into this business even if they have so many competitors already. As long as they are in positive, I guess, they will continue to operate.


House edge is indeed one of the features why casinos have the advantage over their players. They won't go into this business if they are not seeing any gain from it, just like any other business. And if they found their strategies, they can get very good at it reaping great profits.

We all know that in gambling houses are always profitable. A gambler can win big individually if he is lucky, but even if he wins big alone, there are many who will lose. In that case, the house is definitely ahead. Moreover, the more gamblers or users there are on the site, This particular site will be more profitable. If someone wins big it does not mean that the house will suffer. The only house in the gambling platform can only passively earn which is not possible for the gamblers. They have profit against each odds. In that case if one thinks that a big win will hurt the house or the casino platform then it is completely wrong idea. Of course, the house always wins.

Of course. Casinos have to be profitable, like any other business. If they're not they'll go bankrupt. It's not a charity where they're trying to make their clients rich. The goal is to profit from them and sell entertainment, which many gamblers don't understand. By going to the casino and betting money they're buying entertainment and the outcome of their bet is secondary deal. The primary one is to keep the client playing, provide him with a tool to kill time and feels some excitement. That's the psychological aspect that makes gamblers go back, even though deep inside they know they're losing money.

Casino always win long term as long as they are operating and there are players who are willing to take risk as oppose to what why are holding or offering. Imaging the commission costs or transaction fees, that alone makes them profitable or go breakeven to continue operating. The drinks and food inside that too. Casino as a whole not only the machines or games. Thinking about online, it's the advertisements and having VIP players. With the game itself, over a large sample size, the casino always wins because of the game of probabilities.

If they werent that profitable in the first place, we wont really be seeing huge numbers on current existence in the market or into the number of casinos that been operating. Of course it would really be that obvious that house do always wins which means that they are the ones who do make money or revenue for real. They wont really be staying up on business for too long if they werent that making money on which it would really be just that normal that they will really be that staying up on the game as long there would really be tons of gamblers who would really be keeping on feeding them or keep on losing.

This is how reality works and as a gambler then it would really be just that a normal approach that you should really be that making those kind of realizations so that you wont really be that
making yourself that desperate on the time that you would really be doing gambling. It is really just that there are ones who are really that desperate on making themselves
that profitable without even trying out to realize that they arent that someone who cant be profitable all the  time.

One thing I think people should understand is that the casino would always be on a better edge of winning than the gamblers, if the gambler are winning more, then a lot of casinos would had gone bankrupt currently but no, chances of that happening is very slim so that's enough reason to say that the casinos wins more that the gambler on a daily basis.

 Another instance is that if you check the numbers of individuals that win the jackpots or huge sum of money daily you'll see that they're not very much compared to the amount of money individual around the world lose daily. And just like the OP stated, the money the Casinos use in settling individuas who win jackpot is not there's but that of other gamblers.

If it is spread over a long period of time, casinos will generally be profitable because the system is adjusted accordingly. There are differences like 2% and 3% for the house to win, so the house wins more against the players in the long run. This has always been the case. Therefore, if luck has smiled on you, it is best to split the game without further ado, because the more you play, the more advantageous the casino becomes in each game.

No matter how we want to discuss the profit and loss of the casino, they remain the biggest winner in this business, only few gamblers makes big cashout from the casino and the rest win few while the majority lose. Now do the maths, plenty people will make a deposit to the casino but only few maybe 2 out of 10 win something. The rest of the money goes where? It goes to the casino pockets because they are the biggest beneficial of this business of gambling.

If indeed casino don't make enough money why do we continue to have new casino trying to get more customers by giving deposit bonuses and marketing just to continue to be the number 1 in the industry, it's because there is money in there.

Oh yes, the casinos actually wins more just as you made it clear noted so as some casinos goes bankrupts due to inability to pay their winners but I do not think if it is as results of gamblers to had exhausted those funds at their winning but I think it could either be lack of site bookmakers programming efficiencies to generate funds from the gamblers such as setting of gambling campaigns and social and media adverts to influence the audience to come betting on their sites in other to secure much customers on board and have much money recovered s d saved to carry on the business.

Some are also management faults where the casino sites invests too much on the sites without considering the possibilities of gamblers hitting the jackpot in a huge amount and could occur on multi gamblers at same time.
In gambling nothing is impossible as much that nothing is possible.
So failure of the casino sites to realize all that, they runs bankrupt due to excessive incalculable expenses.
So on cases like this they would shutdown and doomed to keep active not until they are reactivated to refund again

But in all just if total ramifications, the casino sites wins more While the gamblers looses more as formally stated.

First thing we need to acknowledge is that, as long as the casino have the house edge advantage, there will always be at advantage over the gambler and that is the reason their are still in business, and as a matter of fact casino are revenue oriented and for such will always put system in place to check whatever method that will always put tham in profits.

Casinos tend to win more than individual gamblers overall, as they have a built-in advantage known as the "house edge" in most games. This ensures that, on average, the casino profits over time, even though individual gamblers may experience wins in the short term.

On a normal basis nobody runs a business for losses but only and majorly for profit making, this includes running a casino shop as a business it requires for sure a profit making strategy whether the customers gain or loss it most make profit in one way or the other.
Hence I believe the casinos make much more profit than what we see as the winners gain from them.
A lot of casinos just need customers to keep patronizing them its none of their business whether we gamblers make profit or not they are good.

And no matter what happens, casinos will always win because they're a business. This is a establishment that needs to earn money from their customers.

As the customers, the gamblers. They also have the means to win sometime but it's not possible that they'd win the same as the casino at most times.

It's easy to understand how the business of casino works and what a gambler's stand on this one.

It's kind of a self answering question.  If a casino is in business it has made more than the gamblers have.  As soon as it flips for too long. They go out of business.  All of the games in casinos have a house edge in terms of expected winner.  Also gamblers tend to play until they have no money left.  Most don't have walk away points.

Yes, that way gamblers always hope for lucky opportunities, right? because gamblers feel that casinos have a big advantage, namely being able to make a lot of money so that gamblers continue to play casino games without thinking about something that will be very detrimental to the gambler if the gambler just hopes and hopes.
Learning to apply a system of methods in carrying out gambling is useful as a reference for which is better and which is worse and we must be disciplined and careful in applying these methods.

I agree with you completely because if casinos does not win at the end, the business will collapse. No doubt many gamblers are making a kill in the business but that should just be a fraction of gamblers as the majority still struggle to survive in the game.

But sincerely, it is not easy running a casino business and I do admire the courage of the casino owners. The risk they take is huge because just few heavy gamblers with luck on their side can wreck havoc on their business. Now that we are in the era of social media, any leaked insider information will end their business.

It is well known that casinos have the big advantage, no matter what games we played, that how it's been and that's who casinos are making money. But it doesn't mean that gamblers are not winning, there could be days that we have the advantage, maybe at a given night a lot of big bettors and whales win. But still though, once in a blue moon and the next day the casinos will win. I even have that thought that when casino's see in their book that they are losing, they could have adjusted for example their slot machines to not give huge payout in the next couple of days to recoup. But that was just me and my imagine,  :)

don't really understand the whole gist here because the statement is contradictory in indecencies you are emphasizing on casino so I know quite well that Casino is a gambling and whosoever that is operating with Casino is taking a risk on its own because there is every possibility and the probability that the person might win the casino or not so that is why I said that I don't really comprehend your point of view so make your statement to be more clarify for the readers to read and the comprehend exactly your point of view

Gambling is not a charity field that can provide financial assistance to all gamblers who need money, however gambling is a business for casinos that as a whole moves to benefit themselves, and usually the target of casinos is gamblers who are excessive or wrong in understanding what gambling is, because I think it is not uncommon for us to find gamblers who have the intention and purpose to earn in gambling that there are even some of them who assume that gambling can change their lives for the better or rich in instant time.

All of these ideas come out because they do not know and understand what the bookie actually establishes a casino. On the other hand yes it is true that although overall gambling is to benefit the casino but it does not mean that the gamblers will always lose, still in the end all gamblers have the opportunity to win and the possibility to lose which may be the difference is in terms of the number of wins and the number of losses but what we must understand here is that there is absolutely no guarantee and certainty that can make you win at the end of the session, and also winning always depends on your luck in running the session while losing is a sure thing because it is not easy to always be in a lucky situation. All in all, I agree with your imagination here that simply put in 10 sessions you will most likely only manage to get 2 - 3 wins and the rest are losses and look at how unbalanced the wins and losses are which means that your number of losses will always be greater.

Yes, that is the decisive factor which keeps gambling profitable for the casino on the long run against players. The house edge is what keeps the industry sustainable and running, otherwise casinos would be in serious danger of going bankrupt in case players faced a strong wave of winnings, potentially having many positive outcomes on long run, since there would be a 50%/50% winning chances for both sides, casinos and players.

The fact the casino has 1% or 2% extra chances of winning makes total difference, although on short run it doesn't look a big threat for gamblers, and that is where many commit the mistake of keep playing thinking they can overcome or defeat the house, because a tiny percentage like that looks inoffensive. The point is that the more they play, more likely is that 1% extra chance the casino has against them will make total difference, especially considering larger bets, after a long loss streak.

I want to understand the point you made concerning individual gambling or individual gambler casino is one of the option of gambling which I know quite well that any gambling have to deal with the risk measure which there is every possibility that you might gamble and lose whatever you place as order then you may also Gamble and win unexpectedly so casino gambling is not different from other gambling from my own understanding of Casino and they also other kinds of gambling as usual so the risk that is involved in both of them is the same, I have not seem advantages in casino gambling that's not in another gambling.

Above all, casinos remain the winner here, and I mean in all ramifications because a whole lot of things are in their favour. They can wire any game in their favour as long as it is a casino game, and they may charge you fees for games played, for deposition and withdrawal, and they can charge commission where applicable as well. They can even determine the fees at which they use to credit your cryptos, so it is a win-win for them. But I believe you take it far in your own explanation about the food, drinks and other extras, and with the way I see it with the main OP, he did not necessarily talk about the brick-and-mortar style of casinos that you are trying to refer to, that's extreme.

I believe it is basically about online crypto casinos which will also surely have all the opportunities over their customers in my view. At first, it might be difficult for casinos, but later when they are getting more popular, they will have enough money from the losers to pay the little winner and not continue to pay the winners from their own pockets. Over time too, this will stabilize where at least 75% of the winnings go to the pocket of the house, while the winners keep the remaining. This could even be adjusted more in the favour of the house with some casinos, so I do not see any chance of the gambler winning them in the long run. Though the good and lucky gamblers will win often, it doesn't matter, the house is still the boss. If not, the casino business will not be as lucrative as it is now.

People who are addicted to gambling will have thoughts like what you said, namely that the casino is a very profitable place for gamblers with the winnings they will get and the addicted gambler continues to place bets to play because in his mind he is sure he will win. quick.
And in reality it is the host who will win and does not want to lose there, meaning it is the host who will determine the decision to win or lose for the gambler.

The business model of a casino is making money from their customers, there's no source of income that the casino can earn.

Actually they're the one who give a lot money for other people/entity, it could be hiring a marketing, become sponsor, advertising, run a contest etc etc. Unlike popular brands who make money from multiple income sources e.g. their product, promoting other brands, collaborate with other people etc.

If players are winning then those casino are surely closed by now an none of them will open one as this is not profitable , but the sad part is that Casino is the one who is waiting and yeah gamblers are losers (there are small portions that wins) but majority are losers .
so the answer is simple and plain , CASINO ARE WINNING over gamblers/players.

Both the casino and the gambler were all taking the risk together because you cannot expect that they just keep making money without having the other side of it as challenge, if we look in how the businesses are being run, we will discover that each has it own disadvantages, though we may not know except we are being close to some of the operators of these businesses, while in gambling, its something that we know that its easy to loose than to win and when you win, it has never happened that the gambling platform were incapacitated of paying you back your winning fund.

All this is because casinos are built for business and they have way of working which can be said to be random so that gamblers have chances at uncertain numbers, but what is clear is that the advantage belongs to the casino, not the gambler.
We just deposit money and risk it to lose but the casino provides various betting options to be able to make profit, no gambler can beat the edge of the casino.
A 50%/50% chance actually doesn't exist because for us gamblers the chance of winning is only 20% to 30% and we can increase it but it also won't guarantee success in winning bets.
It just that we can do all this to have fun and entertain ourselves so we don't need to worry about the possibility that we will definitely lose, the most important thing is that we get satisfaction and entertainment by paying certain amount of money to bet.
Just use money that is acceptable to lose and consider it payment for having fun.
Apart from that, in the long term, if take into account the total number of losses and wins, then as gamblers we will have much greater loss.

I doubt that thousands leaves the casinos everyday, they don't always have a winner every day, and I can boldly say that they make thousands from gamblers every blessed day, but not the same with gamblers making thousands from casinos every day.

Do you not know that casino is one of the most lucrative businesses in the world today? They know no losses unless they have no funds to run a casino or they lack professional way of luring customers in.

This is why we keep seeing new online casinos almost every week now, if it's not a lucrative business there won't be a lot of new online casinos showing up, casinos are definitely winning more.

Even though there are always winners and losers, the casino is always the one who makes the most money. Simply because all games are designed to give the casino an advantage, ensuring that the winners will only win a small portion of the total amount from the losers.

Although players can win big in one play, the truth is that the casino's payout rate is often less than the actual rate of the bets. For example, a slot machine may have a payout rate of only 70-80%, meaning that in the long run, the casino will keep 20-30% of the total bet.

In short, even though there are players who win big, the casino still makes the most money thanks to the profit margin and unfair odds, so even if the number of winners is equal or higher than the number of losers, they still get benefit. However, in reality, the number of winners is always only a very small number compared to the number of losers, so the casino's profits are huge.

Yes the point you are making is a true fact, and perhaps I would add that if gambling was not profitable for casinos then no casinos would have been able to survive until now, but the reality is clear that lately more and more new casinos have sprung up and that means gambling is a profitable business for casinos which means that the overall winnings are actually for the casinos and not for the gamblers.

But on the other hand I will explain in more detail that basically still all gamblers have a chance to win when they run their gambling sessions but the percentage of wins is much smaller than the losses which means if they run 10 sessions at a time for example then most likely they will only get one or two wins and aren't more sessions ending in defeat than victory? of course, this is what should be a concern because if calculated then obviously the number of your losses will definitely be much greater than the victory. On the other hand winning will only happen occasionally and "by chance" because it relies on luck which means obviously when you overdo it you are giving money to the casino. This is why we always recommend not to overdo gambling because after all it will only make us experience huge losses, and yes I agree with you that gamblers who come with the intention of earning are losers who want to earn a lot of money but by gambling and not working.

I think in this thread the Op is focusing on the casino, other than gambling generally. Two people can decide to bet money on a football match, within themselves, to win or lose depending on their agreement. Hence, that has nothing to do with the house edge. The winner only goes home with extra money. Casinos have better winning advantages over the player, because of the facilities they provide for gamblers. In the casino, people receive free drinks, hotel rooms, fun, etc. These factors are not organized easily with a small amount of money. Casinos spend money building the business, so players who wager there, are expected to see the unexpected, depending on the casino's house edge. A casino with a good housing edge offers the player a 3-5% chance of taking profits, per money they wager. The house takes up 95% and above. The whole profit goes back to the house, while the entire entertainment goes to the player.

Definitely both are Gaining in their respective ways. This particular question is actually  a relative one in my opinion. This is because if only the gamblers are Gaining, and the casino is losing the casino will have no option or choice than to fold up. However, on the other hand if the casino is the only one gaining and the gambler is constantly losing, the gambler will either quit gambling generally or quit gambling with that particular casino. The only reason I think a gambler will continue staking and gambling over and over again even when he is losing consecutively is if he is obviously an addict.

We all know casinos are the big players here. The gamblers are just trying to partake and see if they can take a share, but it's never a fair fight; the casino always wins. If you are lucky enough to win big from them, don't take it as if you are the hero there; that's just luck with a little skill playing on your side. If you continue playing with them again, they will always win back all that you have won from them. It's normal in casinos; you can't beat them and win them always.

However, the fact that casinos make higher profits compared to gamblers, we can see in gambling threads that only a few people get jackpot profits compared to thousands of gamblers who lose money in casinos, so any comparison will not make casinos lose even though many gamblers make profits, but The reality is that the ratio of losses is higher than wins in casinos, so many entrepreneurs are opening new casinos because they see very high profit opportunities in online casino companies.

Yes, Casinos are the real winners. The reason they can payout a really huge ticket is because they have the money to do so. The number of people who lose in their gambling covers for those who win and yet give the company a lot of money. You’ll know this because you see some gambling sites giving you bonus amount to gamble or bonus odds. They wouldn’t do that if they weren’t making money.

Majority of the time the casinos is always at advantage and are not loosing even when a player happen to win huge they still manage to stay in profit z in the fact that another players actually looses a d they actually get to pay the other players using the funds that they actually got from other player who lost to pay a d sometimes they have more than enough to pay a d have the remaining to keep in the casino.

.that house have always got the edge because except for sports games, most of the times the casino has always been at advantage because the games are usually tilted to their advantage so you have to basically depend on luck to be able to win the casino to their game a few times because you are actually lucky at that time as the games are actually in most cases having very slim chance of their players winning so they get to have the winning care small the times and a few times the players gets lucky and win, mostly by probability out of every ten the players get to win one or two.

This is why it's always advised that you apply caution to gamble responsibly because you can most of the times fail to keep to been responsible at the casino and then since it's programed for the casino to win most of the times especially on their game, you may most likely loose but then it's very important that you make sure you are playing casinos games for fun so when you loose your money you don't get to be really emotional about it.

Exactly, when a casino establishes its marketing option, when it establishes its bonuses, its contests, it has already completely identified how much it can win, and how much it is going to win for sure, because no Casino is Going to make a bonus plan , or contests for that they become decapitalized, in casinos there will Always be winners and losers, and obviously the winners are undoubtedly them, they have the house advantage, the truth is something very accepted worldwide and as a player you know why they have that, we still play and we think that we can be better and that sometimes with a stroke of luck we can win, it is not bad, but on a personal level I have always said something, when we are playing in a casino we must consider all these things, in order to learn to accept our results.

This is well understood by anyone mature enough that the casino is the winner in the long term and not the players, which is why the casinos flourish and the players go down in debt. The jackpot winner also has a cumulative loss that is bigger than the entire jackpot, so they are also not actually winners but net losers.

Hence the games at a casino should be played only for the entertainment value and not as quick method to make money because they will not make but break your balance. In case you see a short term profit, cash it out and dont come back. If you immediately lose, accept it and dont try to win it back.

Another crystal clear reason is from the fact that there are hardly any  casino  shutting down through bankruptcy while there continue to be more casino coming up with time because the owners are becoming richer while more individuals are coming also to venture into gambling and they are benefiting from new and old gamblers.

while People hardly play or see casino for entertainment but they are attracted to most casino mainly from the games available there and the kind of bonuses they offer.

Exactly, I agree with you that I honestly have never seen or even heard of a casino closing down due to bankruptcy, and maybe in fact it never happened. However, we come back to the fact that gambling is a business for casinos and all businesses aim to make a profit, and I think the casino industry is one of those businesses that has significant profits, especially if most of the gamblers registered there are those who always overdo it and act aggressively who will usually deposit more money without hesitation.

As you said that lately we have more and more new casinos popping up which means that this business is really profitable for them, and all of that happens because there are many gamblers who come with the intention of earning while the game always runs randomly which means that one will never know whether the result at the end of the session will win or lose, in addition when we talk about business it is reasonable to say that casinos make a much larger percentage of losses than wins, and this is what makes them get more profit especially if the players always act excessively.

Of course casino sites win more than gamblers. casino sites lure a gambler by winning several times and because of that win they gamble more and become addicted to gambling and later lose all their winnings and their own capital to gambling sites. so the gambler should not be too happy with the win. If the casino site can't make a profit how will they run their company and pay those who suddenly win huge amounts and cash out? Gamblers once win $1k and later lose $10k because the restlessness and greed within them make them deeply addicted to gambling and push them to bet large amounts.

You should not trust yourself, there are many fraudsters who do whatever they want to get money, they are capable of setting up a good casino even with the licenses , but without funds for them to be able to make money and then leave, it does not matter to them as long as I got money, that's something we see all the time, for that Reason when we are in a casino we must be aware of knowing that we are taking a risk, I don't trust new casinos, it really is like that, I'm Honest, I trust old casinos and bad Reputation, I have already gone through decoctions that I told myself I would never go Through again.

Definitely casinos, it's only logical to think that they're the one that's making all of the money because there wouldn't be a lot of these businesses popping up in the real world and in the online world if it's not a popular or even a really good way to make money for a business. The wins that's made by players, it's not a lot compared to what the businesses rake in, you got to remember that there's also some stupid gambling winners that just gamble their wins back again and they end up in square one again which is really stupid if you ask me.

They are attracted by bonuses and many features available on different casino.  We have so many new casinos flooding the internet but most of them have similar games. Just few games they offer are new of which most gamblers finds interest and decides to register with them. Some of these new casinos are owned by former staffs or developers or even players who discovered that they can also make good profit from the gambling business.
So to answer op's question, I'll say that both the casino and the gamblers are winning. Because with every day come ber ideas, new experience for both plyers and the casino. So it's a win win when though the casino sometime seems to have the upper hand.

Sometimes the casino goes into negative territory for a short time, but this is very rare. The casino actually has a lot of advantages, and this is not only and not so much a statistical advantage in odds, as in roulette. These are simply administrative methods. A casino can violate the law in various ways by delaying payments to players or requiring verification, or simply blocking an account. It's hard to fight against casinos. You can be right and not receive your winnings from the casino. Moreover, casinos often simply block the accounts of people who are profitable in the long term. The casino considers this a normal practice and therefore many casinos have a controversial reputation.

When comes to brick and mortar casinos, I have indeed read about casinos In the United States which decide to ban gamblers from their establishments, only based on the seemingly good look of the gambler. It is still quite rare, though.
On the other hand, I have not seem people getting banned from gambling in an online casino, but I have indeed read here in the forum about the experience of a gambler who got his bonuses discontinued and became not longer elegible for promotions and future events, all of it as because he proved to be too lucky for the sake of the profitability of the casino. He still could continue to gamble, though, he decided to do so.

It would have been blatant of the casino decided to ban him permanently based only on his luck, locking him out his future bonuses and promos sounded more "suitable" for that particular situation.
Just my opinion, though, the ideal case it could be nobody getting banned, if rules are not being broken.

Perfectly said.
The house is always winning but their lost doesn't last long because they have thousands of gamblers and some of these gamblers doesn't care if they are losing or they are winning, so a lot of gamblers are just there to make sure that they are been entertained. But it's quite obvious that it's only the rich gamblers are the ones who is making the casino company to feel some shortage most times, because when a rich gambler stake with a lot of BTC or fiat that's more than a million dollars, when they hit luck or the jackpot the companies feels it but it doesn't last long as luck is not coming everyday.

Overall yes that the house always has the upper hand, or that means the house always wins, one of the reasons is because most gamblers are those who always overdo it because they have the intention and goal of making money while on the other hand gambling is actually always running with full uncertainty so it's fair to say that winning only depends on your own luck, which in addition to the possibility of losing will always lurk, and this is one of the reasons why I believe that casinos will always be profitable.

The number of gamblers who have the wrong approach is far greater than the responsible gamblers who always limit their gambling activities. On the other hand yes maybe what you said is quite true about only the rich gamblers can make the casino experience a little loss, which the reason may be because the rich people bet with large amounts so the winnings must be large, but on the other hand I think we have to come back to the fact that still rich people also have the possibility to lose which makes them experience a large amount of money loss. So actually all gamblers have the same chances and possibilities regardless of the amount they bet.

If we do think up sensibly and throughly then it is really that pretty obvious that gambling houses are the ones who do make some good profits because if we do base up on how big this industry
is then we can really tell that they are really that indeed making some serious revenue on here. Why? gamblers are the ones who do keep on feeding them up. They do love those addicted gamblers on which we do know that this is something that could make themselves getting more profitable. This is why you cant really be able to see some casinos having those kind of exclusions and do rather keeps on giving out those good looking bonuses and perks on which those things are eventually traps. If you dont make yourself that mindful too much or not sensible on the things around you then most likely you would really be ending up on having that huge loses as the time that you would be keeping on chasing those intent or things into your mind.

it is obvious that by now we should have known the advantages and disadvantages of gambling and the application of gambling also because you know quite well that the government is risk and the you have to take it and there is every possibility and the probability that you may lose in gambling and also winning gambling depending your opportunity or chance you have in gambling that is why I always say that we should not take gambling into heart because it can disappoint at any moment in time so therefore meaning of gambling is not guaranteed or assure for anybody because it is a game of opportunity

For the fact that we keep seeing more casino in the market, it means that they are making money from us but we might not be aware of that. Sometimes, casinos do fall into bankruptcy especially when people keep making money and earning profits for themselves. We should not be surprised that we all have to be smart and play bets accordingly to what we have at had not trying to be greedy so we can earn massively from the same bet we are not so sure about. If we bet patiently and try to make money for ourselves without any stress, we can be surprised to earn more from betting.

If they are losing, then you should not say that they are always winning although for an established casino, they can bounce back and end up as winners at most times. Not all casinos are like that but there are some who are not popular, so they only have a small number of players. It is still possible for them to profit though.

Jackpots are insanely hard to hit, so the prizes are always there most of the times and I think the money used to it is not the personal money of casinos but it's also from the players, therefore I don't think that casinos will feel the pain once some lucky gamblers snatch them. With the number of players in the casino, there will always be players who can get lucky every single day but it's not heavy for a casino since many are still losing.

Yes of course buddy, casinos are those who build systems in gambling which as we know that the systems they create are full of uncertainty in terms of generating winnings, everything goes randomly between winning and losing, and when we talk about business then obviously a company will definitely think of various ways so that they can make a lot of profit, and one of them is by making the percentage of wins much smaller than losses which means this is why gamblers lose more often than win.

And it is a fact that casinos take advantage of gamblers who do not have the right understanding of how gambling really is, or casinos take advantage of those losers who always try to make money with little effort, as you said that casinos prefer addicted gamblers which is clear that when a gambler is addicted then usually they tend to always do various actions excessively which in fact these actions will only make them suffer more losses. Another thing is that it is true that whatever we see in gambling such as bonuses or whatever it is actually nothing more than a temptation that will trap you to always try which in the end when you have fallen into it then the casino will get more profit.

Of course the house would always win and gain profit.
Do you think that they would continue if they aren't getting profit from it?
And I agree with how you explain it, the winners get their money from those who lose, and the remaining money from those who lose would go to the house or casino.

With so many new gamblers comes to gambling industry, that will gives them a place to playing gambling so that's why we see many new casinos launch to fills what gamblers wants. The casinos will takes the biggest money from the lose gamblers so that makes many people who have a lot of money wants to build their own casinos. We will see the gambling industry will grows fast in the future and that will supports with the new technology that will applied by many casinos. We as a gamblers should not playing gambling excessively to avoids the big lose because the casino can takes all of our money and makes the casino the winner. If we can avoids the big lose, the casino will search the money from the other gamblers who can't control themselves and gets their money.

It is certain that the host will always win, because the gambling provided is something created by those who are designed to make money from the many people who gamble in the casino. by providing a gambling casino, of course they are looking for profit. The more people who gamble, of course the greater the profit they can get from the many people who gamble. Of course, if they don't make a profit they won't continue this business, because in my opinion the gambling they run is a business, even though there are some players who make a profit, of course it is money from gamblers who lose.

In the beginning, the host certainly spent a lot of money to be able to run the casino, but nowadays there are many people who enjoy gambling, it is very likely that they can make a profit quickly which can return their capital even more than the capital used when they initially planned it. gambling casino. with those who are addicted to gambling, I think they have made a big contribution, because they have supported all the casino workers including the host. ;D

No business owner would want to lose more, some might give bonuses to attract more customers but then that's a strategy to keep their business going and that's what most casinos do since it's a business owned by individuals, just like it's said in most threads here, the house would always be on the winning edge people shouldn't expect that they'll win more and make those casinos owner lose in their business.

 Well there's no doubt that there are individuals who make good profits from gambling, maybe due to their good strategies but their winnings doesn't affect the casinos cause they pay them with the money lost by many individuals and that's why the house would always be on the winning edge, they take their profits from losers and pay winners also with loses from many losers too.
 

Rightly said he would never run the casino if he doesn't get the casino benefits, they earn a lot of profit from it. It does not matter to them whether a gambler wins or loses they get the amount of their profit for their own benefit casinos attract gamblers by offering high incentives to place bets. They results are determined only by chance only determines the outcome of any game there is no method or pattern of play that affects whether a game is won or lost.

Yes, that's right, even though they offer massive bonuses, of course this is a strategy for their business to keep running, and by providing bonuses, it might make some gamblers more confident in gambling at the casino by retaining customers, so the profits will continue. Even if there are people who hope and think that they can win more than the host, I think they don't understand gambling, or indeed they are completely addicted to it so they think that they can win more than the host. but I think there might be gamblers like that.

It's true, even though there are some gamblers who can win, it's actually money that the gambler loses when betting. This is where the business is in my opinion, by them reaping profits from the many gamblers who lose, and paying the winning gamblers using the money of the losing gamblers, of course that will not be complete, in fact I think the winnings of the gamblers paid by the host are not much for the host. a house that makes a profit every day.

What a strange question. Casinos gain edge from every single bet gambler makes. No matter if gambler win or lose, casino a tiny part all the time. Even if gambler wins a lot, from previous bets from all users, casino still end with a profit. Specially I like how it works in poker. Gamblers form bank, and in the end it might be, that biggest part of bank will get the dealer/casino :D

It will always be the casino. The house always wins, and that won't change even in the near future. Even if someone wins, the house still makes a profit from other players. So, basically, that covers their losses on someone. Even if the house loses today or even for a week, but wins for the rest of the month, they still make a profit. It's a very profitable busines.