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Title: Recover BTC out of Old JuBiter Wallet
Post by: BTCbuk on February 27, 2024, 03:28:31 AM
JuBiter is no longer supported.

What is best way to recover the BTC in the old wallet?


Title: Re: Recover BTC out of Old JuBiter Wallet
Post by: LoyceV on February 27, 2024, 06:47:27 AM
I've never heard of it. Google tells me it's a hardware wallet, and it's still being sold.
If it follows any standards, you should be okay if you have the mnemonic seed. If all else fails, you can use the seed with Ian Coleman's Mnemonic Converter (https://iancoleman.io/bip39/) to recover the private keys, and import them into a wallet of your choice.

DO NOT enter your seed words on an online computer. Start an air-gapped system running from Linux Live DVD for this, so your keys can't get leaked online.


Title: Re: Recover BTC out of Old JuBiter Wallet
Post by: Charles-Tim on February 27, 2024, 07:06:39 AM
I've never heard of it. Google tells me it's a hardware wallet, and it's still being sold.
Are you referring to digital blade? It is the one that I saw online that is a hardware wallet.

According to my findings, this is the website of digital wallet: https://www.jubiter.com/. According to what I noticed, it would likely be a custodial wallet and not generating seed phrase for their customers. It was said that 97% of funds are kept in cold storage while 3% for trading just like custodial wallet providers and exchanges can say while holding people's coins.

This wallet/exchange has been closed since 2021. If OP has coins on the wallet, this is another lesson of not you coin if it is not your key. Send them email and see it would be helpful. You can see the link to them email on their website.


Title: Re: Recover BTC out of Old JuBiter Wallet
Post by: LoyceV on February 27, 2024, 08:43:00 AM
Are you referring to digital blade? It is the one that I saw online that is a hardware wallet.
OP should give more information. The one I found was this one on Amazon (https://www.amazon.com/Feitian-JuBiter-Wallet-Bluetooth-Cryptocurrency/dp/B07K446Y57/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8).

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According to my findings, this is the website of digital wallet: https://www.jubiter.com/. According to what I noticed, it would likely be a custodial wallet and not generating seed phrase for their customers.
That's an exchange, it could be OP confused the exchange for a wallet. If that's the case, this topic belongs in Legal (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=74.0) as there is no technical solution.


Title: Re: Recover BTC out of Old JuBiter Wallet
Post by: hugeblack on February 27, 2024, 09:02:41 AM
according to this ---> https://bitcoinmerch.com/de/products/jubiter-cryptocurrency-wallet

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Restoration

BIP32/BIP39/BIP44 compatible.
The recovery process is carried out completely offline.

BIP32/BIP39/BIP44 compatible So you can use ---> https://iancoleman.io/bip39/ (download the page and use it offline) to extract the private key and then import into a wallet like Electrum new wallet > Private keys > Sweep.

Although this is the first time I have heard of it, wallet design is very attractive. If it were open source, it would be better.


Title: Re: Recover BTC out of Old JuBiter Wallet
Post by: Charles-Tim on February 27, 2024, 09:34:13 AM
OP should give more information. The one I found was this one on Amazon.
I think you are right. The site I mentioned is Jubiter while mentioned JuBiter. The name of the hardware wallet is called JuBiter Blade which can also be referred to as JuBiter which can easily be known from the capital letter 'B'. I think the OP is referring to the wallet that you posted about.


Title: Re: Recover BTC out of Old JuBiter Wallet
Post by: DaveF on February 27, 2024, 12:30:29 PM
It is / was a clone / custom skin of the imkey wallet.

https://imkey.im/

https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0549/4184/3693/products/a1_ec420c7e-e657-4f67-96df-3f63f5efee4a_2188x.png?v=1678180262


So anything that works im with that should work with JuBiter.
Don't think they did anything special with it.

-Dave


Title: Re: Recover BTC out of Old JuBiter Wallet
Post by: BTCbuk on February 27, 2024, 02:21:27 PM
Thank you for everyone's input.

For more information on the rat nest I may have created when trying to straighten this out, is I acquired a Tangem Wallet and selected the 'Import' option using my seed phrases. This was done before posting here last night and I should have been completely clear about where I was at.

Once the card was set up, it showed a zero balance and the address on the card is not the same address that has btc on the old wallet.

In looking closer at Tangem I see other people posting who imported from other wallets having issues seeing their balance and some are pointing at Tangem only showing the first address in sequence along the derivation path for the blockchain.

I don't see multiple addresses on this wallet but I'm not certain.

At this point, I fear I tangled this up more than what it already was.

Any suggestions on what could be done from here?



Title: Re: Recover BTC out of Old JuBiter Wallet
Post by: LoyceV on February 27, 2024, 03:52:25 PM
I acquired a Tangem Wallet and selected the 'Import' option using my seed phrases.
You sure know how to pick your wallets, you went from one unknown wallet to another unknown wallet. Why don't you stick to the well known (and popular) ones?

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I fear I tangled this up more than what it already was.
Importing the seed should not have moved your funds. If the balance didn't show up, something else may be wrong. But (as long as the wallet can be trusted), your funds should still be there.


Title: Re: Recover BTC out of Old JuBiter Wallet
Post by: hugeblack on February 27, 2024, 04:47:37 PM
Once the card was set up, it showed a zero balance and the address on the card is not the same address that has btc on the old wallet.
your problem is related to derivation path so that you are seeing different addresses for the same wallet seed.

Go to block explorer and check the addresses with balance, use ---> https://iancoleman.io/bip39/ to extract the private key for that address and import that private key to electrum. If you want to buy a hardware wallet try imkey, as @DaveF pointed out, or buy a passport wallet[1].

[1] https://foundationdevices.com/passport/


Title: Re: Recover BTC out of Old JuBiter Wallet
Post by: BTCbuk on February 27, 2024, 05:00:19 PM
Once the card was set up, it showed a zero balance and the address on the card is not the same address that has btc on the old wallet.
your problem is related to derivation path so that you are seeing different addresses for the same wallet seed.

Go to block explorer and check the addresses with balance, use ---> https://iancoleman.io/bip39/ to extract the private key for that address and import that private key to electrum. If you want to buy a hardware wallet try imkey, as @DaveF pointed out, or buy a passport wallet[1].

[1] https://foundationdevices.com/passport/


Thank you! I'll give this a shot. Appreciate it


Title: Re: Recover BTC out of Old JuBiter Wallet
Post by: DaveF on February 27, 2024, 06:04:18 PM
I acquired a Tangem Wallet and selected the 'Import' option using my seed phrases.
You sure know how to pick your wallets, you went from one unknown wallet to another unknown wallet. Why don't you stick to the well known (and popular) ones?

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I fear I tangled this up more than what it already was.
Importing the seed should not have moved your funds. If the balance didn't show up, something else may be wrong. But (as long as the wallet can be trusted), your funds should still be there.

I would not say Tangem is unknown, it's just not that popular.

Mentioned here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5304483.0
Cards here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5144095.0
And this was a cool idea: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5472632.0

It also has the sort of advantage of being cheap. So if you are looking for a low cost option, I can see getting one.
I actually think I have a couple of them buried someplace.

-Dave


Title: Re: Recover BTC out of Old JuBiter Wallet
Post by: dkbit98 on February 27, 2024, 10:17:12 PM
What is best way to recover the BTC in the old wallet?
Jubiter was a hardware wallet and it is defunct now, but according to one review it should be compatible with any other BIP32/BIP39/BIP44 wallet if they used standard derivation paths.
If you already have seed phrase recovery phrase than t should be easy to import them to new hardware wallet, and I would always recommenf something that is open source.

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BIP32/BIP39/BIP44 compliant. Restore wallet from any other wallet by using recovery phrases. The restoration process is entirely conducted offline.
https://coinworldstory.com/jubiter-wallet/

In looking closer at Tangem I see other people posting who imported from other wallets having issues seeing their balance and some are pointing at Tangem only showing the first address in sequence along the derivation path for the blockchain.
Don't use Tangem wallet that is closed source.
If you like card format I can recommend much better open source Satochip wallet.

Any suggestions on what could be done from here?
Try to find information about derivation paths Jubiter used, maybe from old Jubiter support team.