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Have you notice? In the streaming community, the influence of gambling is getting worse. Have you noticed that many streamers have started to stream gambling and promote it? Sad, but it's the reality. I'm noticing that the streamers I'd used to watch because of their gaming contents and also streams that they do while gaming are fading; they are focusing on and promoting gambling platforms, and the alarming thing is that those streamers used to have young viewers who also played the games they were streaming, and suddenly they left it all out and changed what they streamed, which was gambling.

I don't blame them, but the thing is, they sell their dignity in order to promote gambling, maybe because the offer is too good for them to refuse, but the concept of them abandoning their dignity and ignoring the fact that they could have a bad influence on their viewers, even if they put a warning about being responsible in gambling, the thing is, people or viewers will for sure be attracted if they see the streamers getting or winning too much money. And the theory is that, what if the money or account they are using is not their money or account? Is it an account from the gambling platform that they let the streamers use in order to promote the platform? I can't ignore the fact that a theory might be possible. Anyway, what do you think? or can you say about this streamer transitioning to streamers whose content is gambling? Feel free to share your insights.

They sell their dignity because they are streaming games and promoting gambling sites in the process? What I see about you is that you just want to be judgmental and be one-sided about it. There are many influencers that are promoting gambling sites today. Even in the street next to my street is bank road that you can see betting site signboard. Blame the government and not people that see what can make them become richer.

Bruh, do you realize you are also wearing a casino signature and avatar? When you say they are abandoning their dignity to get paid by the casinos, it makes me confused.

To many people, gambling is part of life just like eating and drinking. I don’t see any problems with streamers that promote casinos. Are they doing anything illegal? No.

Ethical and moral? These concepts don’t have the same meaning everywhere. In some countries drinking alcohol is completely illegal. In some others you can only drink after you turn 21.

Well I am not that much surprised as nowadays people do not care much about moral values as long as they find a way to make money.It is a good way to promote their referral links and getting new prospects to sign up under their account and to receive affiliate money.Most well known streamers do that so why should normal gamblers not do it,it is a great way to get people to sign up under you and to make some passive income,it is even better when you can gamble with such income.

Its not getting worst they are just doing their job
But the real question is: why would anyone follow them?
here it is a bit like with ponzi scam. There will always be someone who believes in miraculous offers reserved just for him ::)
obviously anyone who exploits his online visibility and takes advantage of it, does not deserve my interest, he will remain "signed".
I would think very carefully before following his actions online again or accepting any type of suggestion.

The online streamers have already sold their dignity. I mean, the guy(or girl) decided to make money out of playing video games in his/her room and streaming, instead of getting a normal job like everybody else. What about all the girls, that are making easy money showing their ass on Onlyfans? Did they lost their dignity as well? The internet is what it is. The shameless people are going to use every opportunity they have to make a quick buck. And yes, in most cases this is totally cringe, but we live in a strange world.
The promotion of gambling isn't banned or illegal, so what's stopping the steamers to promote gambling?

To me this doesn't seem so new at all. I still remember the first hype of the online gambling industry a few years back. There were tons of streamers transitioning from traditional games to casino games and taken their audience with them. Nothing wrong with that in my opinion, because everybody can decide from themselves which streamers they want to watch and which games they want to follow. It seems a lot that streamers are just going with the games that offer them a big viewership and also good deals with the producers/owners of the games. When casinos are willing to run special promotions for streamers than it's fine for them to take advantage of it. The traditional gaming industry has done the same and we can see a lot of streamers showing gameplay of new games in the days before they are released. These are obviously marketing deals and the streamers are getting paid for it, I wouldn't call it selling their dignity, it's just a job. Also many games these days have lootboxes that involve gambling as well. For me there is no real difference between watching a streamer opening tons of lootboxes and trying to get the best possible skin, and another streamer playing casino games. If you don't like the content it's fine to watch another streamer.

You judge them as selling their dignity just because they are promoting gambling site, how about you? Why do you promote gambling site in your signature space? What is the difference between them and you (and most of us here who participating in signature campaign of gambling site)? Just different way of advertising, right? And every advertisement has its own rules/terms. You are getting paid to wear signature and post, while they are getting paid to do livestream.

If people are attracted to gamble after watching their stream and because they watch huge wins, who is the one to blame? The viewers, not the streamers. If people do not want to be attracted, it is simple that they should not watch such streaming. Just like in general advertisement of anything in this world, advertisers will always try to promote the product to attract viewers. We as customers are those who should educate ourselves.

I don't think they sell their dignity.

What if they're actually a gambler, but choose to not publicity if they're a gambler because there's no point for doing it if they didn't get paid,

Another reason, anyone will change. I could say stock was the best investment 3 years ago, but now I said it's Bitcoin, probably in the next decade I will say other asset, who knows.

As long as they didn't promote scam casinos, it's fine, unfortunately some streamers don't mind to promote 1xbet.

Even if they are not gamblers but understand about gambling, they are not selling their dignity. They even understand about gambling. The OP is putting on Bitvest signature campaign signature which is also an ad, does that means he also has no dignity? Business is business. Streamers see it as a way of making money and they go for it. It is also legal.

We can't blame them because they seem to follow a trend in providing their videos. And it is normal if they stream gambling to attract even more people to visit their channel. We can just skip it without having to watch what they say.

This is where we have to be wise in responding to it. We don't need to follow their channels if they have started to change from before. It doesn't matter to us because we can choose the streamer we want. And when they have really changed, we can leave them behind.

We don't need to be influenced by what they give. People also have to have a good attitude when watching those streamers. If the streamer can't provide educational content, people don't need to follow him. There are still many good streamers who can help provide good education to their viewers.

Even worse here in the Philippines, people in here are fucking insane to say the least. Most micro-celebrities and streamers would be willing to promote obscure casinos, and it's not like they are offered small-fry money either, as sponsorships like these go for as low as 1000 bucks to some even going upwards of 20,000 dollars depending on how big you are as a content creator on facebook or twitter, which is about a million pesos in today's money, so you'd definitely understand why people will stoop so low that they'd be willing to risk ruining other people's lives by introducing them into something that they probably wouldn't be able to control for the sake of chasing that bag.

I can't blame them either, it's not like it's our dignities that are being put in the line for the sake of money anyway, and some of them found the error in their ways and have gone for more family-friendly content, avoiding sponsorships from these casinos altogether, (still talking about the filipino micro-celebrities just to let you know), but then again by then, they have probably garnered a couple thousands of people who didn't know better than to avoid casinos cause they wouldn't be able to control their gambling urges.

the money is there so I don't blame them if they transition from streaming games to streaming gambling(I'd probably do it too if I were in their situation), I also don't have an issue if they do that, they need money and need to earn. what I have an issue with is if they start advertising shady/scam casinos, lying or exaggerating things and saying things like it is easy to win on this "X" casino or you are guaranteed to gain profit on this "X" casino, they are basically misleading people when they do that.

Here's what's happening even on the social platform of Meta, which is Facebook, where we know even young ones have access. It's disappointing that you've followed a streamer because you enjoy watching their gaming content and because it's also your hobby, but now they've shifted to promoting gambling platforms. It's also possible that they're using sponsored accounts, so what viewers see on their stream is large amounts being placed as bets for a big win. In that way, they could encourage viewers to gamble as well for the potential of a big win.

Yeah, I noticed that too, like majority of the streamers nowadays is promoting gambling at the end of their live session but I understand if some of them are accepting the offer because streaming is their main source of income and having an opportunity that offers a huge compensation is such a huge blessing to them even if promoting gambling is indecent for some viewers. Maybe having a disclaimer is the best thing to do but we can't control people who watched their stream but it could lessen the probability of reaching the live to those minors if they set up an age restriction for their viewers. I have this speculations since then that some streamers are using a set up account so that once they do live streaming, it only shows pure winnings when they promoting the gambling but this is an speculations only, it's still not proven.

I don't understand where they are selling their dignity when the channel belongs to them, it's something private, the channel talks about games and they have operational costs that they need to pay, because to create the video they need a good camera , they need a good computer and video editing software, they need to pay electricity, they waste their time and when they place advertisements or talk about gambling on their channels, they put an age restriction warning. they are very clear in telling people about the risks involved in gambling, they talk about the minimum age that one must be to gamble, so I don't see why they would have to be looked at but when they are not breaking the laws, when they they are not breaking the social media TOS, when they are not being dishonest with anyone

I honestly don't understand why they criticize gambling games, and it's something that doesn't make sense. people are not being forced to play, at least I haven't heard any news yet saying that streamers are forcing people to create an account at casinos and play. So if no one is being forced. It doesn't make sense to keep complaining because it's up to each person to look at an advertisement about gambling and choose whether to play or not and if they choose to play, before creating an account that person must look at the casino's TOS and see if the age requirement is met. you are promoting a casino and there is nothing wrong with that

I am not against any stream transitioning from gaming to advertising gambling websites. It is their platform and they can do what the hell they like. Anyone who doesn't like that can stop watching them. It is a free world and we cannot tell them what they do or not do. Nevertheless even though it is their platform and that they can do what they want, there is a moral thing to do and that is to

• Let their audience know that gambling can be addictive and that they can stop watching them if they think they are becoming addicted to gambling
• Offer some gambling resources to help gambling addicts
• Be opened about their bankroll - their wins and losses.
• Tell their audience that they do no support underaged gambling.

We really can't blame them since gambling site do have a lot of budget for marketing and mostly they offer it to game streamers as they have a lot of viewers and those viewers are their target and of course the influence of the streamers have an effect to the gambling site, they saw it trusted as it was used by those streamers. Actually not only the game streamers but normal streamers do promote gambling sites as well, I mean, there's no connection and yet they still promote an online gambling site.

The thing is they have more audience and among those audience there's definitely someone who will try or use it. We really can't do anything about it we just really need to accept it as they are getting paid from it.

don't forget that whatever you're doing, if you don't find a way to factor business into it, you will in most time go out of the market. I don't think that there is anything wrong with streaming platforms using such opportunity to advertise a product that will earn them commission. If you're not interested in what they are streaming, you just walk away on a low. I still know that there are so many instances when I want to watch I live match and I don't have access to DSTV or can't go to the viewing centre, I just go to some random Facebook page that streams life matches and within few moments of watching, they bring in advert and after the advert they continue thier streams. I might not be interested in some of the advert and for others, I might be interested and might want to try it out latter and at the end of the day, if I'm lucky, i wouldn't blame them for advertising a gambling site while i was still watching my favourite game but we tend to complain when it doesn't go in line with what we want.

Even your regular local channels still run promotion on Gambling sites on the TV and you don't make a big deal out of it. I know what's possibly the case is that some of these site might not regulate it in such a way that users can still enjoying the match they are streaming but you've got to understand that what gives those sites money isn't just the view and engagement they get by streaming th matches but the number of users they are able to bring into the gambling site they are promoting.

You guys need to go easy on the OP. The use of the word "sell their dignity" may not be what he or she meant to write. I am not trying to defend him or her but if English is not his or her first language, they may lack the proper word to use in that sentence. As we can read and understand, the phrase "sell their dignity" doesn't even make sense in that context. I may be wrong too, so please not come for me because English is not my first language as well. As for the OP, he or she needs to think it through thoroughly before creating a topic as the topic they have created is like shooting one's self in the foot for obvious reasons which has already been mentioned.

It's the new wave of promoting gambling sites, whether online or offline. And I guess this is also been discussed a million times already, it's the morality of gambling. If you don't want to gamble even if you saw this streamers then don't do it simply as that.

I mean still boils down to you, whether you think that their sell their dignity and you have a good moral compass. And if you go down the rabbit hole, it's not just gambling though, everyone, just to attract someone to watch their videos, to sell and for the clout and obviously for the money.

Online gambling platforms don't really need to create a new account just for them to use in promoting the gambling services. It can be as simple as registering and then the gambling platform and putting some funds in it which cannot be withdrawn but can be played as long as they like. Something like a free bet with restrictions.
It's true that what is happening now is alarming because of the sudden increase of Streamers either in the gaming industry or in the entertainment industry that have switched to gambling. It's all about the money, says Jessie J.  ;D And money cannot be defeated. The age of thinking about dignity is long gone, only traditional people still believe in those things. Well, it will depend on the government because they have a say to this if they think the gambling advertisements is getting out of hand.

The aspect of morality and dignity is what laws and penalty can control and not that people will not freely try to make money from what they feel people will easily subscribe to, so the government should be the one going after such unregistered subscription and irregularities. So many gamblers can wish to do that and they are not the first on it, telegram hosts also run the same ads whether they qualify to do that or not and people traffic on it.

OP how is these influencers' fault? Even if there are casino advertisements in every corner of the cities in the world it is left for people to make a choice, you can still choose not to gamble, it is not a must even if the adverts are everywhere.

I don't take alcohol but almost everyday in my country there is always alcohol adverts, both the big ones and the small ones, till this date I never know how alcohol tastes like, I don't even want to know it.

Influencers are after their paycheck, they will do anything to make sure that they get paid but still, the last choice is on people to make, its either a yes or a no, so please don't take personal, because you are sounding like its personal, everyone has a choice to make.

Most of the time, it is always peoples fault that they get addicted to gambling, its the choices they made that cost them big time.

A big part of the problem isnt just streams looking for work. Concerns include what this means for the sites and the message it sends to kids who watch. This streamer used to be about games and skill. Nowadays, they're pushing gambling, which changes what they stand for, you know? Are those wins on these gambling sites really real, or are the streamers just being dishonest to get more people to watch? Trust must be built in what viewers see, and those responsible must be held responsible, including streamers and sites. This isnt just one person doing their own thing; it can affect how a whole generation thinks about financial matters and danger.

Exactly. It’s like a highly paying job is being offered, so why waste those chances if there are great opportunities to be in huge profits. Gambling is legally accepted all over the world, except for those Islamic countries, so if online streaming gains high demand these days then we can’t control these gamblers to promote gambling platforms just like those celebrities who are doing streaming and show to the world how wealthy they are after that.

Let’s just accept the reality that money is the topmost important for the people. And where there is massive amount of money, people will eventually take advantage of those, even it means selling their dignity for some, which for me it never seemed like that.

Same rant here regarding our local streamers. They don’t care if some of their followers already pointing out that they change their original streams that is the reason why they follow him.

Streamers is compensating this negative reviews by giving away money whenever they win huge amount which is effective to make the majority of their follower stay with him during live. The only problem was they are demonstrating greedy gambling that makes it very dangerous for their viewers when they copy the streamers game play.

Most of the streamers play aggressively that makes their stream a very dangerous to watch.

It's a new trend, and the "job" is pretty simple, you can either play gambling games or do whatever you do and advertise casinos on a side. I guess the main reason is because it pays a lot... and if you have a lot of followers, it's serious money. So it's not strange that more and more people are getting into streaming.

I don't have anything against this trend, but I think there should be a way to protect the youngest against this kind of advertising.
Somehow it seems to me that it reaches very young people in strange ways. Of course, we parents should also take care of it and keep our children safe, but it is impossible to watch over them 24/7.

Are you suggesting that by starting to stream or create content about gambling and casinos, I would be consider as Iam selling my dignity? BTW recently, I have received an offer from a new casino to start streaming with them and have fun while gambling beside getting a side hustle. Although my gambling activities have increased lately, I have reduced the amount of money I gamble and solve this issue. So would it be wrong if I accepted this offer and made a living from it? My content would target individuals above the legal age for gambling, and I don't perceive any harm from it as long as Iam doing it responsibly.

Beside that, adults are responsible for their decisions. If watching gambling content triggers the temptation to gamble more, I recommend stopping watching that content. Personally, I find it enjoyable and entertaining.

The first question you should ask yourself is why they stream the matches. The simple answer is not far from money, that is to make money. If that be the case, their can easily be paid by the gambling company for promotional purposes so long as the platform have huge followers. I do not see anything wrong with such promotions though because at the end, it is you that will decide what casino to use. You can even close your eyes during the adverts if it disturbs you a lot.

Are you saying that promoting gambling is bad? You are wearing the signature of a casino and also promoting same in the gambling board yet you condemn another person doing same? Is that not a case of double standard? I do not see anything wrong with gambling, that is way I am an active gambler myself. Gambling is not illegal in my country either so I have no problem with anyone promoting gambling through any means.

Well. In my humble opinion, I don't think streamers promoting and doing advertisement to casinos are necessarily selling their dignity for money, they are people who do exactly the same with other sorts of services, like VPN providers, online game stores (like Eneba or Epic games), some people who are into the cryptocurrency world even ask their followers to use their personal link to join an exchange or buy a hardware wallet, as a gesture to support the channel and the content in it. Neither of those people are selling their dignity, nor are gambling streamers, they are trying to make money, like any streamer or influencer, they need sponsors.
Though, there are correct and incorrect ways to advertise products and services and gambling platforms are tricky to advertise on social media, that is true. It would be better if greed was not so big on streamers and they could diversity their sponsors, so in the end of the day, it is not all about gambling in front of people and likely in front of teens and children...
I used to watch a very good influencer when I was a teenager, to me surprise, he turned into streaming and filming himself gambling when he seemed to lose much of their sponsorships in social media.

I truly miss the old times on YouTube, when it was not only about money but also to have fun and laughter. 😔

I don't see any problem with streamers promoting gambling on their platforms because it is a source of revenue and also offers cheap advertising for gambling companies. The only problem I have is the exposure of these advertisements to young people. These underaged individuals don't have the emotional strength to resist gambling and many of them might become gambling addicts if not guided and controlled.

Some countries such as India, Indonesia, and others are making sweeping laws to restrict these influencers from taking advantage of their followers to make financial gains. For me children should be protected from these gambling adverts and any platform that has content for children shouldn't promote gambling. I might also propose a bill that will restrict gambling platforms from promoting their services close to primary and secondary schools in my country.

Its not getting worst, it is getting out of hand or really that become too rampant because industry had become so big on which those companies or platforms would really be needing to become that being aggressive when it comes to marketing because if they would really be making themselves that not making any actions then they would really be getting left behind and this is something that would really be happening on a particular company
and since we are living in a world where digital era is here, then you could really expect that these kind of methods when it comes to exposure would really be mainly be used.

If you do find these things to be worst then it would really be that your own personal opinion on which you do really have the point, but eventually these things arent that an issue if you are really just that
not that caring about on the videos or streams that they are really that making into about gambling or any other things that you do see online, it would really be just that depending into someones
self control because not all would really be that good at that.

Streamers have dignity? That's a new one. Most of them would sell you their mothers in an instant. It's just a matter of price.
Actually, there are many new trends among streamers. Females were always showing private parts for views, but OF brought it to new levels. Males take freak fights, sell themselves to sponsors that promote various shady stuff like gamers promote sites with cheats, and so on. We've always known that famous streamers like are given money to play in a casino and many celebrities were paid off by SBF to promote his scam... Don't exepect something where there was none for a long time.

They are doing nothing that could be considered to be illegal so there is not a thing that can be done about it, while at the same time their occupation is getting harder with more and more people trying to become an influencer, so they are under tremendous pressure to keep making money, as they never know when that income will dry up and they may need to find a regular job, so the best thing you and anyone can do that does not like this situation is to vote with your feet, unsubscribe and never watch their content again.

Did you say dignity? Funny enough you are promoting a gambling brand wearing their signature. Where's your own dignity mate ??? Your language sounds like someone with a vendetta as though you have had a bad experience with gamble streamers.

I don't think that by streaming gambling sites as a promoter makes the individual to lose his dignity, it's just like every other career for money making, because if that's the case then we all that are gambling have no dignity too. Both the promoters and the consumers are culprit.

What we should understand by now is that the gambling industry with the help of the internet has penetrated into all corners and with the level of penetration right now they don't even need the permission before interrupting your activity online with ads promotions in different ways. The responsibility is left on the older people to educate the very young about the bad aspect of gambling and why they have to avoid until to a mature stage in their life, and not by castigating the promoters  who are just after their money for service rendered.

I think some of the members here missed the part when OP said they used to stream gaming contents but switch to gambling since it's more profitable but the problem was that their audience were mostly minors. They don't mind shoving gambling contents to their gullible young audiences as long as they get the money and that's where the "dignity" comes into question.

That's okay, it is their choice and just like us we're promoters of casinos. But their difference is the viewers that they have an idea that can be seen by kids.

Unlike here, most of the folks here are old enough to handle themselves and that's why it's fine for me because we all have our choices. That's their livelihood and they're living on the sponsorships that are being paid by the advertiser.

They can justify that gambling is still gaming, isn't?  :D

First time? There are quite a bit of streamers out there who turned to gambling after having lost all their main audience. Might just be due to them not growing really as a content creator, or just others having better content than them so the audience simply went to them instead. Well, that's the old streamers' part and just my take on why they went to gambling instead of continuing their old style.

As for new ones, I don't think there's any dignity to sell in the first place since they don't have a brand in the first place, they might just really like gambling so they started with that. In the first place I wouldn't really blame them for the audience watching them, each person has their own choice to watch others after all. And if it was the young viewers, it's not their job to filter it out so that they aren't watchable by said viewers, it's the platforms job.

Streamers do their streams as a job, do you think they do it for fun? and if a casino makes a nice offer to them, they will follow the money, that's how it works, money talks. But i agree with you in the age problem, as you mentioned, some followers are young guys, and seeing them starting playing on casinos at a young age is sad. And the main problem about that is they can't do kick, so, they have the faith to win something big, but if that happens they will not be able to withdraw their money, that's sad.

What do you expect when we now have more casino than number of players. Every single months, I do come across more than 5 new casino I have never seen before and when you check them, you will find out that they are new and they are all marketing to target their own customers with promises of bonus and some new conditions that will be salivating to catch new people and when they don't have organic traffic, they switched to influencers and streamers to get more people with more bonuses and commissions with more people they referred.


You said dignity, how many of streamers do it today for dignity when many of them are struggling to even make a living from gambling, many of them don't make upto what they show on their screen, some are just internet bizz with some casino to get more customers through their influences. So with all these, once they get money from any potential customer that want customers, they quickly accept the deal and do their shady streaming to their follower.

Are you a Filipino? this has been a norm and meme in our country that many of the content creators, coming from the gaming streams that they do everyday, they've changed their contents to gambling related contents. I think that the pay is higher with that and with their influence to their fans is very much high. But they don't know that a lot of lives have been destroyed with how they promote the casino as if they're always going to win those bets they do. There's a false marketing on their end and making it look like it's easy to win.

No one caring about what is happening because mostly are looking for their own profit and increase of income which is happening due to their streams and change of contents in recent time we have significant increase in gambling streamers which are bringing serious problems in many countries and societies but sadly no one can stop them just having check to kids are enough otherwise things are going from bad to worse.
In last few years I am having experience of too much new generation kids are involved in this even they are not having enough sources of income which are creating problems and addictions are killing peoples as well with the race for having more income is surly their priority, but they need to understand some ground realities as well.

It's true that they're for the profit and it doesn't matter to them whoever views their videos. They're earning two ways on the videos that they make. So, from the social platform itself and then the sponsorship that's being done by the casino they're adding to their video. Honestly, most of the content creators in our country has always that kind of ad because it's making them earn a lot of money per video. It's not surprising why many of them keeps on adding the casino ad at the end of their videos.

Its a win-win situation for them and that would really be bringing up that good income for them once they would really be able to do it well. Tons of these streams are really that rampant into these platforms
on which if you do have a child which they would really be potentially be able to see up these videos or streams on which as a parent then it would really be something that challenging on trying out to handle and make your kids that realize or telling them about the cons of gambling. Its somewhat that anticipated knowing that we are living on an era on which everything is really that almost been marketed online
or via streams on which exposure could really be done with these common platforms.

Those influencers wont really be caring about into their audiences as long they are really that doing their job then they wont really be caring about into your condition
whether you would really be getting addicted or not or would be neither a minor or old one.

If you are an audience of these streamers, then, it is on you how you will filter the content of their streams. If you will spot fraud, then, better leave that channel as you may be tempted of checking out the site. If there are clear signs of screwing their subscribers, why would you continue to follow such streamer or influencer?

Do remember, these influencers are saying good things to attract audience as well as subscribers. Most of them are exaggerating what they are doing and who knows they are getting paid by the site they are promoting?

What is the importance of morals, dignity and honor? If you don't have money. And isn't it all about the money?

Gambling sites offer quite fantastic payouts to gambling influencers or streamers. Considering how difficult it is to earn and make money amidst an economy that is not doing well and amidst the difficulty of finding and getting a decent job, who would refuse this offer? Because every day a person will continue to be pressured by need, morals, dignity and honor seem to be no longer valuable.

Indeed, behind the excitement displayed by gambling streamers, many people are influenced by them and spend a lot of money on gambling. But we also can't completely blame the gambling influencers and streamers, because it all comes back to each individual in responding to the gambling shows they show. Isn't what is shown very different from what we experience when gambling?
and if we are wise enough in managing things, including receiving information and able to think rationally about gambling, then we will never be influenced by their gambling streaming shows.

For real this is a very big issue. More and more conflic and controversy keeps coming from these people and eventually I feel like it's going to bite all of us back. People need to understand that if casinos keep allowing heir streamers being so cocky eventually the negative attention is just going to result in a blanket ban for online gambling that's going to be more strict than before. And we've seen governments increasing authoritarianism so it's not too unlikely.

Just for once I want to see a casino endorse streamers that spread knowledge and positivity. It would be ideal to see more variety in casino sponsored streams other than just controversy driven views.

I'm getting your opinion wrong or I don't just understand cause from what I read and from my understanding advertising gambling site is wrong cause I guess that's what you're trying to say. If streamers decide to go for advertising I see nothing wrong, even with the aim of earning huge profit or not what's actually wrong. If viewers fail to listen and obey instructions you still don't need to blame influencers advertising what they got paid for but rather viewers should take the blame, for example you're the one advertising in order to buy the heart of viewers so it's left for the viewer to think twice and plan proper cause they're the ones spending to earn through the site, if speaking on honesty I believe we all know most influencers lack being honest as most of this influencers don't care about the viewers rather the money involved.

It's not wrong technically, just that OP is attacking streamers since they arbitrarily start streaming casinos and gambling when they have young people as their audience, or at least a part of it. As for those who are already of legal age and still get swayed in to gamble and lose all their money, then yea, 100% their fault.

If we were talking about how the streams/videos are shown to the users though, it's 100% the platform's fault. They should automatically tag said streams so that they aren't able to be seen by people not in a certain age range. Now if it was how to do that, technically not our problem since it's not exactly our platform lol.

But as not anything can be tagged or banned, it is up to the viewer who needs to filter what they are seeing. We can't expect the authorities to flag down each stream or video just because it is not up to the young viewer's standards.

As the streaming platforms are proliferating these days, it is up to you if you will subscribe to their channels or not. Much better if you will enrich your knowledge with facts and not by opinions. Most of these streamers are only sharing their opinions and usually their main goal is to attract viewers and get paid.

I have no problem with their attitude of promoting gambling platform but take a look at the promoted casinos which are mostly shady and if I am not wrong most promoted casino platform by social media influencers is 1xbet (not 1xbit) still it's kind of casino as far as I know and they are all giving fake statements about their experience in the platform was great and suggesting that it is a great way to make money is completely wrong.

This really depend on the sites that used by the streamers, if they stream on sites that allow gambling content, the video and stream won't be shut down by the authorities since they stream or upload their content in an appropriate place.

Just like there are a lot kids and teenagers use twitter, they can access porn and view crypto ads on there.

Their goal from the start to become streamers was to earn money, so when there is an offer to promote a brand, such as a casino for example, they will definitely not refuse the offer, because who wants to refuse money like that. Even if they have to abandon their dignity or there are underage audiences watching their streams, they don't care about that because the most important thing is how they can make money from their streams. But we can't do anything about that, unless the streaming platform issues regulations to limit streamers promoting gambling platforms or limit the audience of minors on streams that promote gambling, maybe that will be very helpful.

How is what a streamer does these days any different than what you're doing with your sig space? It's ok for you to promote a gambling site, but if a streamer advertises a gambling site they are bad people? They sold their dignity?

It's ok to have a point of view, but to be a total hypocrite is hilarious.

Arguably, promoting gambling isn't a wrong act. Now I made use of the word arguably because of the fact that some people see gambling as a neutral or good activity when others see it as a bad one. Advertising in the process of content creation is a nice combo however some persons have taken a profit only minded turn. This is in the sense that such individuals promote products and services not minding if they are misleading or fake, just so they can get their personal gains from it.
Things like this are very rampant these days not only in the aspect of promotion of scam casinos and gambling sites but also things pump and dump crypto schemes. This is the reason why you as a person has to be smart enough to spot the misleading ones.

That's part of how they monetize their social media accounts. It's already given that they have a good offer but it's up to them on what contents they publish or promote during their stream. We can also see that streaming gambling is the trend in streaming where you can see a lot of viewers are getting attracted, meaning there are a lot of viewers who are interested in gambling. If you see them changing just because their content is not the same as it was in the past, then you can just unfollow them and look for other streamers.

Just like on your account in this forum, you are promoting a gambling campaign which is your way to monetize your account.

We'll,you won't blame them for that,this is how they feel making more money is generated,so no much emphasis about criticizing them, whereas it might be looking like it's getting worse by the day but this is the perfect strategy to them so they go extra miles to promoting it in every aspects.

But why do you think they sell their dignity?to me they are just looking for measures to sell out their market to the public and that's what most business owners do,by the way was there to hide,what the dignity they are selling and  just do you know Gambling in some countries is prohibited and at such they hide to run it inorder to be caught,so if  this was a way to get out of that hiding state to the deem light you think they won't accept and sell their dignity like your saying.

There's a lot of money involve on promoting a casino that's why expect that a lot of streamers will bite any offer that come into their hands since maybe this is one time opportunity and they make sure to get a lot of money while they are still famous and can influence a lot of people. That's the reason there's a lot of them are now over exaggerating on those casino they are promoting since they want people to believe that its easy to win on the casino they are streaming so there's a lot of money will come to them. Remember that money is root of evil and anyone who will get some big amount of money would provably grab the opportunity.

Its up for the audience on how they would take or handle the situation if they believe those people promoting it or they ignore then try to find something more reliable to spend their attention. You can see a lot of promotions like this scatter everywhere that's why its better to be knowledgeable on this industry so no people can hype and make us expect that something good will happen if we listen on anything what they say.

Because there's a lot of money to be made from streaming gambling platforms, so even if their platform is not related to gambling or adult-related platforms, they ignore their audiences and followers and prefer to monetize their content by promoting gambling platforms.

Parents and guardians now should check the streamers their children are following, these streamers end up corrupting the minds of their young followers, and guardians should advice their children to unfollow or block these streamers.

There are no streamers who don't know how many lives are destroyed because of gambling, they are doing it for the money and they are getting paid, drug dealers don't care how many people will be ruined because of its consumption, they care about the bags of money they will make.

Online casinos are getting more popular, and too many new casinos are getting released every month, it is only a matter of time, when something gets too popular it gets washed out, and there won't be much success and money from gambling in the future, from the streamer's side I meant, there will be too many competition.

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I only pity we humans, who believe too much in gambling and luck-related things, if luck has to find me it will be through my ungiving up hassle, not me looking everywhere from luck, gambling isn't something we should be too into, whole idea about gambling is like a ponzi.

Like what I explained in my previous replies, it is always a two-way street and perspective when you think about gambling promotion and advertisements from streamers.

Generally, streamers get paid via advertisements and/or promotions in which they are hired for. For example, there are certain companies who hire streamers to endorse or to stream for a minimum number of hours per week and they have to fulfil that requirement to receive payment. Additionally, streamers are also getting paid by businesses in order to advertise a certain product/service.

Sure, gambling promotions and advertisements have been rampant currently but you also have to look it on the perspective of the streamer in which they use this ads as their source of income for their needs.


I think this is where we must draw the line between stream of profit from gambling advertisements vs amount of content in which they advertise.

On my first reply, I explained the two-way street of understanding streams of income from these streamers. But on the other hand, they also have a duty to limit the amount of gambling promotion they advertise on their streams. If you are watching a streamer who mainly plays games and then he transitioned to a purely-gambling stream, I think that is a sign that you must stop watching or limit your stream visits to his profile.

I read one story of streamers who struggling for years to make money from streaming but earn a huge income when he start to stream gambling, casinos offers decent money for streamers with a large fan base and this is a big temptation for streamers regardless of niches or interest they are promoting in their channels.

Gambling is a multi billion dollar industry and they need promoters to promote their platform  because marketing is the life of casinos, they need more people to play on their platforms so they are willing to pay streamers huge to promote their platform.

This trend will continue until there's a strict regulation on gambling streamers.

Well, you won't be able to change every change that occurs and the hype that we see today. Since online gambling has become more developed and popular, there are many casino platforms that use the services of streamers to promote their casinos so that they become more known or interested in the majority of people who are interested in playing them. To be honest, I'm not a loyal viewer of streamers. whether it's those that are more into gambling content, or those that are still determined to support broadcasts of PC games that have become their identity. In fact, the phenomenon of streamers has often been discussed by us on gambling discussion boards.

For me personally, this is not a matter of dignity or as you expressed in this thread, but more a matter of offers and work. For example, if you are a streamer, there are two choices, take it and work on the project. Or, you keep doing something you like. regarding whether they are "streamers" playing with casino accounts and the like, perhaps this is part of the scenario of an agreement made between two parties working together. I think, actually we as the audience have to be wise in responding to it. There's no need to be uncomfortable with this phenomenon, after all, in time it will be replaced by newer trends.

I haven't notice about that because I am not games streaming or else too often. If I watch the streamer, I will not takes too long because that can makes me forget doing another thing. But I see some streamer promoted gambling which we don't knows what's their reason doing that. Maybe they wants to feels a new experience in playing gambling and that's different from playing the games that they usually played. Maybe they wants to make money from a new thing which is gambling as they see that many people now like playing gambling. Whatever they reason promote gambling, that is not our business but we must still carefully if we watch the streamer. We have to filter what we watch so we don't tempts with their promotion and we don't have to follows them to playing gambling as we knows that playing gambling can makes us lose our money.

however, the streamer does it for their profitable business interests. but what is wrong is that their followers are not only people who are old enough and mentally enough to gamble.
so the streamer must provide insight into the risks of the gambling he is promoting as well. not only shows how to win big from the site he plays on.
Even though the impact is small, I think it is important for streamers to provide a disclaimer at the beginning regarding gambling knowledge and also the risks for those who want to gamble. because at times like now, everything is really difficult to control.

Can I call you as a hyprocrite? You call gambling streamers as people who sell their dignity to promote casinos while at the same time you promote a casino in this forum with your signature.
Come on dude, are you jealous with them because they can earn a lot of money by promoting casino through gambling streams compared to what you can earn to promote a casino with signature campaign?
I'm quite sure if you have the chance to be gambling streamer, you will also accept the offer from casinos to promote them with your live streams.

In different social media platforms that support streaming, most of their video now have a paid advertisement at the end of the clip sometimes most of those are so long than the actual video of them, most of the casinos now i been notice are not too much reliable in my country because seems like a sceptical platform who are just replicated, the reason why people like doing streamings now because they want to promote their casino and how they can easily get a win every game. Well, we cannot blame them sometimes it's hard to earn money than get a promotions like that with a contract which is easy than taking a full shift or job every day.

I know what OP means and he is right. If we talk about twich,kick etc platform , then some streamers will drag you down in the mud just to prove themselves they are right ( even if they are not ) and what is worst about this is that their community will feed that ego over and over again until they will think they are some certain gods of internet. It's better to stick with entertainers who have a great community and won't feed that ego of that streamer because at the end of the day , we are going on this platforms to be entertained and a lot of them forgot why they are streaming.

Everyone wants a piece of the cake. People are earning huge amounts of money through streaming.
Not only they get money from the streaming platforms but also earn money from the sponsors.
So it's a double income and so many people are trying their luck with these streaming platforms.

They are at their worst now 2 years ago it was not like this but they have found a way to insert their gambling streams because of the money involved we are talking of big money I read one local gambling streamer is struggling to monetize his channel and was thinking to leave his channel or sell it but after one streamer convinced him that there's huge money to be made in gambling streamers he sacrifice integrity over money, after a few months of streaming he bought a new car.

This is how big gambling streaming is the money is easy but you have to ignore your conscience and sacrifice your integrity even to the point of losing a few loyal fans.

I agree and that is why every gambling site or platform always says after their ads: "Gamble responsibly." The "Responsibly" word has a deep meaning.
It could be "control yourself", "treat it like a game", or "just gamble what you think you can afford".
Gambling is such a big business because many people are looking for their luck and that is why many streamers have been advertising it, taking advantage of the hype because they know the money is in there.
In the past, the "online sabong" (cockfighting) boomed in our country and many people placed their bets on it for months until the government banned it.
Imagine that, just one game could pull that many gamblers, what more if there's a wide option of it as online casinos do.

I do feel the sae way towards them, however there's this side of the story that they are just doing such thing for money because they are paid to do so. I just hope that they could control or limit their audiences in particular with age. Problem only is with streamers who are creating false content or those who embarks that winning is easy and such wherein in reality it is not. But I agree that more streamers are now appearing promoting gambling contents. As a viewer, we have the rights to report it and get it removed actually, however things won't be done in an instant. You can just also hide it on your tab and with other audiences, it will depend on their initiative whether they would engage or not. I am just on a position that I gamble as well and it would be ironic to say that I am against the streamers directly.

On point, A streamer that I’m following disclosed the offer he gets from promoting the casino. They get fixed amount of money approximately 1000$ per stream with fixed amount of stream time. They can get more profit from views and affiliate commission that’s why they decided to change content to gambling since they already have followers that is willing to support him even on new content because they frequently having a giveaway to active followers.

Casino industry offers a lucrative amount of money for their deal. My country is dominated by this online casino mostly owned by Chinese companies that operates in our country.

I will not blame them, this have to deal with money, no one will receive an offer to promote a brand or product and be paid for it and will not accept, we are all hustling around in other to earn income opportunities, this same applies to some of these streamers you're seeing online, its not that they were not aware of what is happening that they are doing, but interest for money will not allow them make a reverse in what they have determined to offer and earn from it.

 Chinese company, really? I think I have never personally interacted in casinos or sport books which are based on China, the west is pretty much dominated by casinos which have their headquarters in countries like the United States, Europe and in the Caribbean Islands.
Out of curiosity... What country are you from or what country do you gamble from? I assume you are from Africa or east Asia? Otherwise, I don't see how it could be possible for a Chinese company to comply with the tight KYC regulations which are usually imposed in the West.

Leaving that aside. One thousand dollars is quite a significant amount of money, no doubt about it, even for people living in developed countries, though, because how big the streaming landscape is, I would assume it is rather difficult for the average person to become a streamer and find sponsorships from casinos. It takes some kind of specific personality for someone to succeed on it.

To be honest, I don't find that too big of a deal. On the one hand, I understand what the OP is mentioning: these streamers are sometimes affiliated with the casinos and often promote unhealthy gambling habits and unrealistic expectations. On the other hand, those who participate in gambling activities accept the risks involved; thus, the streamers aren't to blame if we're reckless with how we manage our finances; that's not their problem if we gamble away our salary. On top of that, no one is forcing us to watch their content; if we suspect negative or misleading behavior from them, we can simply skip their content.

Quite often these streamers are in specific gambling categories which seems fine to me - they are usually restricted to over 18 (or 21) year old viewers who have to actively seek them out. I'm more concerned about all the mainstream game developers who are forever jamming microtransactions and loot boxes into games these days, those elements are introducing low key gambling into even the most innocent look games and breeding dangerous behavior. I think as long as streamers are up front about why and who they are promoting (if they are advertising) then it should be perfectly fine. It's when they are gambling on fake accounts and colluding with casinos to appear like users win more often, that is the truly dangerous part of this.

The problem isn't to promote gambling industry, rather it's how they are promoting gambling industry. If there are warnings telling people about the risks of gambling and guiding them on how to be responsible gamblers, there isn't any issues. It's a legit, transparent and fair propaganda. The problem is when these streamers lie to their public and give the wrong impressions about gambling. A common example is when they say gambling is a source of extra income and that people should gamble to make their wages grow into larger sums of money.

That is, they sell gambling concept as a method for poor people getting out of poverty without working harder or educating themselves to have access to better paying jobs. And that is disgusting, because as we know, for most people the more they play, more money they are going to lose. Consequently someone in poverty will remain on poverty forever that way! Meanwhile, these streamers have their pockets full of money thanks to the delusions and misconceptions they promoted on their social medias' channels.

The mistake many people make is believing every bit of words that comes from an online content creator, most especially streamers who does that for the pay-cheque and promotional basis, because the fact that a streamer who was once into gaming content, now shifts to gambling streaming, then that is obvious and a clear he may have been offered something too big he cant afford not to collect. Hence, just as he has adjusted, it's wise if all gamblers could  take caution in whenever content they stream, and not believe all those multiple winning we see while gambling , as not all are always real. And as such, it's people choose le responsibly.

I suppose it’s more justifiable at his or her end because, he ain’t operating a streaming channel and as such, kids aren’t finding there ways to gambling site.
I am very much against kids and the immature in mind and thoughts gambling but, I don’t blame streamers when they aren’t censoring what the content they are promoting.
While you might control how you approach gambling, you can’t control how others react towards it and that’s fair game. That’s why it’s said, you should gamble responsibly. You owe that to yourself and the gambling industry.

If they can, then why the said issues are still growing? But there are still other crimes that they have stopped, so we are still proud of them. The problem is also from the people on why they easily subscribe. Companies are still registered even if not their features but again, regulators should tighten their rules next time and then the companies will also imposed a rule about it on their platform.

For those who can't follow it, well they will be in great trouble. There is no rule that only the ones who do it can continue, this is why others follow it because they think they can also benefit from it. AFAIK Telegram is decentralized so people are allowed to do such act there.

I will always be against the streamers who sell or who say they get into platforms that are only for them to make money, it doesn't matter if they become scams, the majority of strearms care and only earn money by advertising any game, to any casino, giving false advice, in fact this is something that has become very popular, pyramid schemes, all this has been seen so that they can generate money only for themselves, the only platform that maintains its concept for me is YouTube, Because Twitch is the only thing that can exist, so since they banned casino games, for me this has become a total nightmare, I no longer believe in streamers, only in the most famous ones.

Z390, you can't believe that I also told someone that gambling is not something that must be taken too serious but they disagree. Some people feel they are very lucky and they can luckily win so much money in gambling. The real idea of gambling is to spend small amount that can be lost in a peaceful mind and not the money that the gambler will loss and they can not sleep because of tension and pressure with mind filled with so much regrets.

This is true, there is no problem if these streamers will have a disclosure that they're promoting a casino and the kids or whoever is in not at the right age shouldn't patronize and gamble. It's only for the adults that have jobs and can sustain their gambling enjoyment. Otherwise, it's not for all the audiences of the streamers that are doing their thing and livelihood through that craft they have. There are many responsible and as well as irresponsible viewers that the streamers can't control but the same goes to them when they don't tell a lot of facts about the casino that they promote.

Most of the time, they'll be given some demo account and it's going to have a lot of money on it and letting the fans think that they've got a lot of money deposited in there. But little did they know, it's not what they think. All of the money that are into that account of streamers are actually activated by the casino themselves and they're just demos so that they can show it to their viewers on what kind of gamblers they are. Another twist is this, the chance of winning of those streamers account are very much high compared to the accounts of the customers that will try to sign up under them. It's just so crazy and the marketing level is on a different level with that because they want to take advantage of those streamers that has a wide engagement.

It's all because of money. They're certainly sponsored or paid for doing so. Thus who can't resist if the offer is too good? It's quite normal nowadays. These streamers are attracting their viewers to also gamble on the specific casino. Because this kind of promotion is one of the effective way to lure many people to play.

Seeing someone to win huge is really tempting to try it for yourself. Although it seems these streamers lost their dignity for not even thinking their minor viewers, but that's how it is when it comes to money. They're paid so what can you expect.

Its definitely noticeable how many streamers have shifted from gaming to gambling content. Yes, its a big change.
But, I dont think its all bad. Many streamers are really transparent about the risks and responsibilities of gambling. What matters most is how they handle the change and communicate with their audience.

The internet has no age restrictions but has on it contents and information with age restrictions. Underaged users of the internet will probably stumble upon restricted contents for underaged people. It derives their curiosity to participate in gambling, since nobody is watching. Streamers wouldn't stop advertising because they noticed an underage viewer in their channel. I commend parents that use parental control on their kid's device. Because nothing is wrong with what the streamers do since nobody is looking into stopping it. They need the generated funds to shoot more quality videos. To attract more viewers for their advertisers.

I think young people should help in stopping this by abiding to the rules and avoid gambling as an underage. The internet is open for everyone and I think parents hand out gadgets to their kids for educational purposes. And young people know that money can be made on the internet. They'll easily follow any ad that promises money. Or to know how they do it, they'll watch videos where people show they've made a fortune from gambling. Since the streamers are under the gambling niche, they're not completely to be blamed.

So you're basically asking about two different things here? One of them is the probability that the streamer is practically tricking their viewers into promoting the service, while the other is the risk of underage viewers who might gamble because of him.

I don't think this is exclusive to gambling marketing activity. I remember reading a claim saying a streamer is using a demo account of some sort when they advertise an exchange. Even you can find the same thing with gacha game (you might argue they are also gambling activity, but that's a different discussion). I think there is no solution to stop this unless you want to bring legal issues and so on. As a viewer it will be better to assume they don't spend any money when they gamble, so just look at the features they're showing you. It is a bit naive to decide which platform you will use based on whether a streamer is making money from it or not. CMIIW.

Social media or the internet is the biggest means or place or the main focus for most casinos to promote their gambling sites because they can reach more people who will become targets or victims, in any way whether it's with an advertisement or through the intermediary of the stremer with a scenario of doing a video show on one of the social media by showing a big win which makes most people who see it feel tempted. Another thing is that it is clear as you say that it is very unlikely for a stremer to refuse an offer from a casino to help promote their site because of something that the money offered by the casino is usually a very large amount and it is difficult to refuse it because after all everyone needs and wants money.

On the other hand, I am sure and believe that most of the gamblers who now come and get involved in gambling are those who fall or get carried away after seeing the promotional video shows made by the stremers, they do not fully know that the actual video shows that look very tempting are actually nothing more than a temptation that will eventually trap them in many downturns. The fact is that everyone will become blind when they see money, most of them find it difficult to think rationally or consider something first before getting involved if it is about the “ease of getting money” which is actually just a trap. On the other hand, everyone will only think about themselves, including the stringers who cooperate with the casino, they only care about themselves to get a lot of money from the agreement with the casino and they don't think about the fate of the people who see the promotional show and who eventually fall into the following by suffering many problems in it.

Money always speaks louder!

A long time ago, people first had a hobby: "Playing video games or computer games", and because they spent a lot of time playing and having fun, they started broadcasting online just to "show off" but discovered that this gained them a lot of viewers and consequently money on the correct platforms like Youtube, for example.
It didn't take long for other people to start doing this too, but notice that the main purpose was no longer fun but rather views, always aiming for more profitability.

When they discover that gambling games pay more, especially sponsored games, it is "normal" to see these people change their focus.

Fortunately, gambling has expanded a lot and today we have access to many platforms in a much easier way than in the past. But unfortunately the whole world is focused on making money from this so that other interesting content is being left aside.

This just sums it up.

Money will always speaks louder especially to those who have ambitions and want to do something with the money. Values and morals are thrown out the window by most people the moment they realize there is a huge money involved in the activity. This is the only motivation from streamers why they stream in the first place, and when the opportunity knocks, they for sure won't want to miss it. These streamers are streaming other things previously before they streamed casino games. They abandon their format because for sure, the money is good from these huge gambling companies.

Those streamers know what they doing, if they were not used to promote gambling and now they choose to stream about gambling, they will lose their followers. If their channels are big and already make a lot money, they won't accept to promote gambling since they don't want to disappoint their followers.

What makes them want to promote gambling is when their streams are no longer attractive and not many people watch them anymore, so they didn't make a lot money. Instead of trying to learn and evaluate the problem, they choose to promote gambling since it's the instant way for them to earn.

I don't see anything wrong with that. You need to realize and understand why they have started streaming in the first place. One doesn't get into streaming because they want to pass their time, they can play games without going live if they want to do that, but they do it so that they can earn money from it, it's their profession and if they are making changes that they are free to make to increase their income or anything, they would do it for sure.

A lot of streamers tend to change their content when they see their viewership is dropping since many viewers get bored of the same thing and they might stop watching, so they might try different things, mostly things that are currently trending so that they can get a better viewership for their streams and hence earn more money.

I think we cannot prevent that from happening, and as long as they are not making any illegal thing, they should be allowed to continue doing their thing. They just want people to sign up and make money from their, that's the reality in the world we are living now.

However, we should not condone them because they are just doing their job to earn a living, and as long as gambling is not illegal in our country they have every rights to promote it. What the government should do is to educate people, about the risk of gambling, and IMO, that's the only solution, not ban.

Streamers are delicate. They must entertain and pay the bills, which is difficult. Flashy demo accounts with cash? The picture is deceiving, right? These accounts are rigged to lure you in. Smart marketing, but dishonest.

Not all streamers are to blame. Lack of upfront disclosure is the issue. Simply saying "Hey everyone, I'm getting paid to promote this" is enough. Knowing the score, adults could choose. We need true transparency with kids. They must realize that what they see isn't everything. Education and protecting the vulnerable

What is the point of not believing streamers yet still choose to listen to the famous ones. Obviously all the streamers are the same, whether famous or not and its a big issue for those following their channels for fake advice. They try to make the history so real so that their followers would believe that they have real money in their betting platform.

Some edits the screenshot of their bets or use demo money with a deposit/withdrawal to make it look so real, which can be done in some crazy casinos. This is why it is good to make good choice of casinos used in gambling.

       -     You know honestly speaking here in our country almost all our local streamers in gambling online are deceivers. why did i say because almost all of the ones they show live streaming are replay videos.

then they show it live while they are live, and what they say is a lie just to fool their viewers to make it appear that what they are showing live gambling play is true. so they are not really good influencers actually, instead they hook viewers.

Expect about they do crazy thing to entertain people since this is their job and this is their way to earn a money to sustain their daily needs or even their vices. If we can see that they are to good to be true like they are spending large bet size in just single round without having any hesitation in mind for sure that these streamers are just using a demo account and just wanna try to manipulate the minds of people that they are really so good and a risk taker on the casino games they played.

This is dangerous if they show up some fake winning result since there would be a lot of guys will be interested to try what the guys do to see if they can also get the same large winning result.  And to feel something like to be greedy to achieve that is somehow dangerous for normal people since they might encounter huge defeat when they execute those methods taught by those streamers.

Do not believe in everything we watch in the internet. That's why people should educate themselves about such gambling stream or gambling in general. As I said before in this thread, if there are many people get attracted to try because of big win shown in the gambling stream and they believe that will get the same big win but they do not aware that gambling is all about luck or do not know that losing chance is big then it is their own fault.

Well said! Not all we watched in the livestreams are true, some of them has been using a set up account in order for them to show pure winnings only while advertising the gambling game that they promote. That type of livestreaming can really attract their prospect users because money is involve in that game and People nowadays are easily believe what they watch or read even if they haven't studied it yet, what more if they watch it from people they admire and trust? We know that usually the fans of an influencers really follow or imitate what they see in their idols.

We can't prevents that from happening but we can prevents that happens to us. If we can take care of ourselves and always be careful with anything we watch or read, we will not gets tricks by them. We will knows what we needs to do if we watch the video or anything else so we don't gets tempts like other people. It's better we use something that can avoids us watch the streamer that we don't wants.

They doing like that to make money but with wrong ways. We can only protect ourselves with search for much information about that thing so we don't get tricks. The governments needs to educates people but we must take care of ourselves so nothing bad will happen to us while we watch the video from the social media. But it's a personal decision to follows those streamers and if we can be careful, we will not be like them.

I don't actually see it a wrong way because they are promoting gambling as an affiliate by introducing a certain platform to the people. if we are a gambler, we will understand that it's just purely business, and since we love to gamble, we should not see gambling as a bad thing. They can promote what they want, so it's really up to the gamblers if they will do some research to understand that gambling is not only fun but it's also risky at the same time, but sad things will only happen to us if we are not responsible.

In short, "responsible gambling" should be promoted.

I agree that these streams are not to be trusted when it comes to online gambling they provide wrong information most of the time. Live streaming is a method of data transmission in gambling which is a strategy to attract customers when someone watches a video on the Internet. It is a way to distribute a video file bit by bit at a time often from a remote storage location.

I agree, they're not to blame here as that's how they do it with their livelihood but with sort of deception with how they market a casino. That's how many have been hooked thinking that those cash they're winning are for real and could also happen to them. It's really a marketing strategy that many don't realize it and they're biting that way of marketing so they think that the chances that these streamers are getting are also going to come to them.

I have seen a lot of them that are disclosing that they're sponsored by a casino and always get to the point at the end to gamble responsibly and moderately. So, with that, they know that everyone that should gamble because they've promoted the casino needs to be responsible as well and they never lack of reminders to them. Yes, they earn money from these promotions but not all of them are having that sense of responsibility for the fans that they're going to drag into the casino and deposit and becomes addicted later on. They don't think of that much because many of them think about the affiliate and commission that they're going to get from them later on.

Honestly I would agree with you if the stremers promoted the casino or site only to people who were already involved in gambling, but the fact is that it is not like that where most of their targets are ordinary people who never know about gambling and are just people - people who are still unfamiliar with the bad effects of gambling, the stermers show something that looks very tempting, namely how easy it is to get large amounts of money just by gambling so it is clear who doesn't want to get big wins like that so this is what drives people who never know about the real bad facts that exist in gambling to enter and get involved with very high hopes and confidence to be able to get big wins like the stremers get.

As you said, we will assume that what the stremers do is normal because it is a business and we say that because we already know everything but what about ordinary people who really don't know? Of course it is very likely that they will become victims of impulsive gambling because in their minds they are focused on getting big wins, and I understand that what should be promoted is "responsible gambling" but this is not promoted by them.

Yes, as I said it before, we must be careful with all of we see on the internet. Many people doing something regards of what they wants without thinks about what happens to other people and as long as they can gets what they wants, they will continue to gets for more. It's our jobs to prevents the bad things that comes in front of us by always carefully and always filter what we gets so we don't have to gets the impact. With research, we will knows if that thing is what we looking for or we needs to search for more because that thing is not what we wants. We must have responsibility in gambling so we don't gets many problems like other people and we can enjoy playing gambling. After all, we must take care of ourselves from the things that we don't knows.

Sell their dignity to promote gambling? How? Is it not for the money nowadays for everyone, I mean getting as much money as you can? You show your talent, you get paid for it one way or another. Why are they doing that in the first place if not for the benefits, and do you think it is for the passion alone? Even if you have that passion and you can utilise the passion well to also make more money, won't you go for it? I do not see the dignity they are soiling here. For me, they are even dignifying themselves better for making more money. Some of them are basically being promoted by these companies you said they sold themselves to. Do you know how much the promoters are giving them annually? You will be amazed at the payslip of some of them. Some of these guys have turned these streaming games into a full-time career, do you want their career to impoverish them?

In all senses of reasoning, I see nothing wrong here. As they use their talent and capability, they entertain you and the promoters use the opportunity of their platforms to announce their presence (adverts). It is a win-win for everybody in my opinion. It is now left to anyone to register with their sponsors or not. However, if the arrangement is not comfortable for you, you may stop watching the streamer forthwith. But I will always view that decision as cruel because it is harmless to you, just do whatever you want to do and ignore the ones you do not want to participate in. I see tens of adverts daily on websites, platforms and videos, but they've never been my issues because I have my focus and purposes and the objective of visiting those channels which can never be compromised by ads.

This part is very important, because no one worries much anymore whether Actions hurt them or not, so in this order of ideas we are people who are always going to establish many things, first, the nature of an influencer is to help, it is to Guide, It is that your Community is on a safe path, and if an influencer begins to carry out advertising projects that are scams, casinos or casino-scams, that is very bad, it makes people lose money, but they sell for a few Dollars , and that is not good, an influencer should never be carried away by emotions and greed, for them they must first be their People , they Cannot do things so that Others lose and the influencer Wins, that is why now everything is based on an influencer Be honest and lead your community to a better path of Greatness.

Yes I'm in support of promoting responsible gambling enough to reach out to young people on same social media. If you look at it those influencers or streamers don't care much about responsible gambling. Or some of them only wants to make money without reducing the rate at which their viewers get themselves involved in addiction. It's meant to be balanced, since they own more fellowship and viewers, such medium are also the right place to place ad about gambling responsibly.

But it seems nothing huge would be benefited by promoting responsible gambling. Yet it's the right thing for the growth of a responsible society. With consistency more underaged people and new gamblers will get prepared properly before engaging in gambling. I've not seen anyone doing it, aside some personal interest boards established for promoting responsible gambling.

All that needs to be true from a stream is the game being played is the same game available to anyone.   I see no problem with watching a stream of gambling, decide if you want to watch or not and the decision is on you as an adult.  Why it became controversial is a mystery, theres a stream of a log burning on stream and thats been a classic broadcast going back decades and its perfectly harmless.  Do I support forest fires no, but people can burn a log if they feel like it and put it on steam and so to gambling.  I'd only dispute it as deceptive if the game odds were not true to life, if its a different game not available to the public in any way.

influencers should be the ones who give inspiration to their viewers to do the right thing or to improve themselves or their lifestyle. For me, if you are an influencer, you should be a role model for your fans because what you do, it is possible for them to imitate it but it depends, there are others like influencers who use their popularity to earn money , let's not clean it up but most of them really have that goal, to make more money even if the exchange is to give bad images to their viewers.

You have a good point here, the streamers should be a good example for their viewers, but the main problem about the gambling streams is the fake balance, we see some streamers placing insane bets of $50,000 each BlackJack hand and some people believe that's real money, but that's where the problem starts, the money isn't even real, they have a deal with the casinos to play with bonus money who has a roll-over. In other words, what they show is a lie. And that isn't cool at all.

We as the audience needs to be wise when we watch any videos from the influencers and make sure that the video we watch is not gives a bad effect to us. The influencers can gives any videos they wants to attract more visitors to their channel but everything will be the audience responsibility to avoids the impact from the videos. Many people are tempts to follows the influencer after they watch the videos and that's our job to make sure that we don't gets the same thing by always be wise watch the video. Many influencer trying to make money from social media and makes many videos to attract more visitors so we must be careful to select the influencer. We don't have to subscribe to their channel if they don't gives a good videos to us so we can take care of ourselves.

Many people will supports of promoting responsible from the influencers, especially if the influencer can gives videos that can helps the audience to finds what they wants. Those influencers or streamers doesn't thinks about responsibility of playing gambling because they just focus on how to gets many audiences to their channels and how they can makes money from their channel. If they can thinks about that, maybe those influencers or streamers will have many subscribers that will enjoy watch their videos.

Promoting gambling games can makes their reputations is down and their channel can gets prohibition, especially if many people doesn't like their channel and reports the channel to the authority. But if those influencers or streamers can explains why they shares the videos, maybe they can still have their reputations. But the decision will be on us to select the influencers or streamers so we must be carefully to select the influencers or streamers.

It is supposed to be the same game which is available for anyone to play, otherwise it would be a clear case of deceit, I am not ever sure to what extent that is even legal, to be honest.
The only case I am very sure there is no a real distribution of odds and winning probabilities with comes to slot games of casinos is when people download a game which happens to be the demo of the slots.

The demo can be completely different in terms of chances to win, under the assumption the person playing the demo would like to see the full animations which play when the user wins money or hit a jackpot, it would be for the sake of selling the game as a provider, though, one the game is set up on the casino and real money is at stake, there is no reason for the chances to actually favor the gambler, and then it where the actual profit for the house comes from.
I would like to think those streamers are not cheating in anyway, it would be quite a scandal otherwise.

To be honest, I feel that if gambling is legal and allowed within a country and there are physical or land-based casinos as well, then you can't blame content creators completely for doing what they are doing because they are doing a job and they earn a living with it, but it's our responsibility as viewers to know and understand what is good and what is bad for us and that we shouldn't blindly follow anyone that we see doing something over the internet.

Kids shouldn't be allowed to watch live streams because it's not suitable for them unless it's some kids-related stream, and adults should be mature enough to understand the positive and negative consequences of gambling and shouldn't think it's easy to win just because a streamer is winning.

What I think is that, since gambling is not illegal in most countries, i don't think those influencers are doing the wrong thing, they would only be wrong if they mislead individuals blindly  or say things that would lead them to become addictive gamblers, but in a case where they're not an just influencing a gambling platform with their social media page then I don't see anything bad in that.

 Maybe the OP has made a wrong decision from an influencers predictions or lost some money through it that's why he feel pained but then he should understand that those influencers most times don't care if you're making the wrong decisions or not so far they're getting paid by the platform they're influencing, moreover it's left for you as an individual to decide to listen to them or follow them blindly.

Chinese people are good software developers and so I wouldn't be surprised if there are Chinese startups owning gambling sites.
$1000 is indeed a great amount just for a stream. With just few streams a week, a streamer can earn thousands of dollars a week.

Streaming in the gambling is no more a new thing and it service as a marketing strategies in speculating a specific casino platform.

They are usually hired for it and it is usually individuals who has the dignitary capacity to influence the audience due to numbers of fans they had gathered as a community community with their popularity which if the influencer leads for others to follow, the audience would definitely find it interesting in participating in whatever the influencer does.

It is actually not a bad idea if the casino sites using individuals for such marketing skills but it is worth sanctioning with terms and conditions to be applied so that the influencer doesn't have to inspire or invoke some chronic addictions on the audience where they can be negatively affected.

Just saying "it's legal, it's their job" is a cop-out. Yeah, gambling's legal, but so is smoking, and we all know the dangers there. Without meaningful checks and balances, streamers shouldn't do anything just because they can. The responsibility is ours. We pick what to watch, but we must be honest. The highs of gambling are crazy, but the lows may ruin lives. Watching this is extremely bad for kids. Period. It doesn't entertain them. We must improve, adults. We must recognise and demonstrate dangers. We mustn't be gullible. Flashy triumphs without dark side on streams? Not the complete picture. We need increased risk awareness and transparency

The problem is that streamers are not promoting even close to responsible gaming, but quite the opposite. The casino gives them fake money and during the stream they lose (sometimes they win, of course, but very rarely) millions. They do it so easily that it is obvious to me that this is fake money. And yes, I noticed that now (apparently due to problems with promotion through other channels) a huge number of gambling projects have entered the streaming sphere, but I cannot say that at least half of them operate adequately.

In my opinion there is a case to be made that the majority of the influencers are indeed misleading their viewers with their content, and this is because we know the majority of them are either gambling with play money or doing so with money given by the casino, so they are not at risk of losing a single dollar with their actions, but by promoting their big wins, that will never be paid off, and by hiding the fact they are not using real money, they are deceiving their viewers, which will use their income to gamble and suffer real losses.

I don't see how the casino or the influencer/streamer himself could use terms and conditions for their viewers not to bet addicted to gambling or not to fall into problem gambling. If the job of the influencer is to promote and advertise a casino and the casino's objective is to attract people to gamble, in the end is up to the new gambler/newbie to be aware of his decisions and money management. Though, unfortunately, in many occasions the newbies do not identify what gambling is about (entertainment) and assume they could profit out of it. They end up losing some money and there is when they need to whether realize gambling is not profitable for most of gamblers or continue to chase losses.

It is very true, when we see influencers , sometimes they can show us many fantasies, and some people who have tried to imitate them end up very Badly , here with Influencers, casinos, casino gamblers, this is very delicate and I go out It Cannot lead to Any type of madness, because an influencer can have so much voice in the masses that he can achieve whatever he wants, and it is because of the emotions he makes people Feel, this is nothing new, they are Able to put to anyone on a platform, and do what they say, that is the power of an influencer, but this is legal until the Moment they Decide to be honest, and then if they sell themselves to Any oasis, they are a scam project , I think that even there goes its success.