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April 25, 2024, 08:09:40 PM
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They sell their dignity in order to promote gambling, maybe because the offer is too good for them to refuse, but the concept of them abandoning their dignity and ignoring the fact that they could have a bad influence on their viewers,

Bruh, do you realize you are also wearing a casino signature and avatar? When you say they are abandoning their dignity to get paid by the casinos, it makes me confused.
I suppose it’s more justifiable at his or her end because, he ain’t operating a streaming channel and as such, kids aren’t finding there ways to gambling site.
I am very much against kids and the immature in mind and thoughts gambling but, I don’t blame streamers when they aren’t censoring what the content they are promoting.
While you might control how you approach gambling, you can’t control how others react towards it and that’s fair game. That’s why it’s said, you should gamble responsibly. You owe that to yourself and the gambling industry.

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April 25, 2024, 08:12:52 PM
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The aspect of morality and dignity is what laws and penalty can control and not that people will not freely try to make money from what they feel people will easily subscribe to, so the government should be the one going after such unregistered subscription and irregularities. So many gamblers can wish to do that and they are not the first on it, telegram hosts also run the same ads whether they qualify to do that or not and people traffic on it.
If they can, then why the said issues are still growing? But there are still other crimes that they have stopped, so we are still proud of them. The problem is also from the people on why they easily subscribe. Companies are still registered even if not their features but again, regulators should tighten their rules next time and then the companies will also imposed a rule about it on their platform.

For those who can't follow it, well they will be in great trouble. There is no rule that only the ones who do it can continue, this is why others follow it because they think they can also benefit from it. AFAIK Telegram is decentralized so people are allowed to do such act there.

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April 25, 2024, 08:16:47 PM
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They sell their dignity in order to promote gambling, maybe because the offer is too good for them to refuse, but the concept of them abandoning their dignity and ignoring the fact that they could have a bad influence on their viewers,

Bruh, do you realize you are also wearing a casino signature and avatar? When you say they are abandoning their dignity to get paid by the casinos, it makes me confused.
I suppose it’s more justifiable at his or her end because, he ain’t operating a streaming channel and as such, kids aren’t finding there ways to gambling site.
I am very much against kids and the immature in mind and thoughts gambling but, I don’t blame streamers when they aren’t censoring what the content they are promoting.
While you might control how you approach gambling, you can’t control how others react towards it and that’s fair game. That’s why it’s said, you should gamble responsibly. You owe that to yourself and the gambling industry.
I will always be against the streamers who sell or who say they get into platforms that are only for them to make money, it doesn't matter if they become scams, the majority of strearms care and only earn money by advertising any game, to any casino, giving false advice, in fact this is something that has become very popular, pyramid schemes, all this has been seen so that they can generate money only for themselves, the only platform that maintains its concept for me is YouTube, Because Twitch is the only thing that can exist, so since they banned casino games, for me this has become a total nightmare, I no longer believe in streamers, only in the most famous ones.

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April 25, 2024, 09:42:27 PM
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I only pity we humans, who believe too much in gambling and luck-related things, if luck has to find me it will be through my ungiving up hassle, not me looking everywhere from luck, gambling isn't something we should be too into, whole idea about gambling is like a ponzi.

Z390, you can't believe that I also told someone that gambling is not something that must be taken too serious but they disagree. Some people feel they are very lucky and they can luckily win so much money in gambling. The real idea of gambling is to spend small amount that can be lost in a peaceful mind and not the money that the gambler will loss and they can not sleep because of tension and pressure with mind filled with so much regrets.

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April 25, 2024, 09:49:38 PM
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The problem isn't to promote gambling industry, rather it's how they are promoting gambling industry. If there are warnings telling people about the risks of gambling and guiding them on how to be responsible gamblers, there isn't any issues. It's a legit, transparent and fair propaganda. The problem is when these streamers lie to their public and give the wrong impressions about gambling. A common example is when they say gambling is a source of extra income and that people should gamble to make their wages grow into larger sums of money.
This is true, there is no problem if these streamers will have a disclosure that they're promoting a casino and the kids or whoever is in not at the right age shouldn't patronize and gamble. It's only for the adults that have jobs and can sustain their gambling enjoyment. Otherwise, it's not for all the audiences of the streamers that are doing their thing and livelihood through that craft they have. There are many responsible and as well as irresponsible viewers that the streamers can't control but the same goes to them when they don't tell a lot of facts about the casino that they promote.

Most of the time, they'll be given some demo account and it's going to have a lot of money on it and letting the fans think that they've got a lot of money deposited in there. But little did they know, it's not what they think. All of the money that are into that account of streamers are actually activated by the casino themselves and they're just demos so that they can show it to their viewers on what kind of gamblers they are. Another twist is this, the chance of winning of those streamers account are very much high compared to the accounts of the customers that will try to sign up under them. It's just so crazy and the marketing level is on a different level with that because they want to take advantage of those streamers that has a wide engagement.

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April 25, 2024, 09:54:07 PM
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I don't blame them, but the thing is, they sell their dignity in order to promote gambling, maybe because the offer is too good for them to refuse,
It's all because of money. They're certainly sponsored or paid for doing so. Thus who can't resist if the offer is too good? It's quite normal nowadays. These streamers are attracting their viewers to also gamble on the specific casino. Because this kind of promotion is one of the effective way to lure many people to play.

Seeing someone to win huge is really tempting to try it for yourself. Although it seems these streamers lost their dignity for not even thinking their minor viewers, but that's how it is when it comes to money. They're paid so what can you expect.

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April 25, 2024, 09:58:07 PM
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Have you notice? In the streaming community, the influence of gambling is getting worse. Have you noticed that many streamers have started to stream gambling and promote it? Sad, but it's the reality. I'm noticing that the streamers I'd used to watch because of their gaming contents and also streams that they do while gaming are fading; they are focusing on and promoting gambling platforms, and the alarming thing is that those streamers used to have young viewers who also played the games they were streaming, and suddenly they left it all out and changed what they streamed, which was gambling.

I don't blame them, but the thing is, they sell their dignity in order to promote gambling, maybe because the offer is too good for them to refuse, but the concept of them abandoning their dignity and ignoring the fact that they could have a bad influence on their viewers, even if they put a warning about being responsible in gambling, the thing is, people or viewers will for sure be attracted if they see the streamers getting or winning too much money. And the theory is that, what if the money or account they are using is not their money or account? Is it an account from the gambling platform that they let the streamers use in order to promote the platform? I can't ignore the fact that a theory might be possible. Anyway, what do you think? or can you say about this streamer transitioning to streamers whose content is gambling? Feel free to share your insights.

Its definitely noticeable how many streamers have shifted from gaming to gambling content. Yes, its a big change.
But, I dont think its all bad. Many streamers are really transparent about the risks and responsibilities of gambling. What matters most is how they handle the change and communicate with their audience.
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April 25, 2024, 10:10:38 PM
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I don't understand where they are selling their dignity when the channel belongs to them, it's something private, the channel talks about games and they have operational costs that they need to pay, because to create the video they need a good camera , they need a good computer and video editing software, they need to pay electricity, they waste their time and when they place advertisements or talk about gambling on their channels, they put an age restriction warning. they are very clear in telling people about the risks involved in gambling, they talk about the minimum age that one must be to gamble, so I don't see why they would have to be looked at but when they are not breaking the laws, when they they are not breaking the social media TOS, when they are not being dishonest with anyone

I honestly don't understand why they criticize gambling games, and it's something that doesn't make sense. people are not being forced to play, at least I haven't heard any news yet saying that streamers are forcing people to create an account at casinos and play. So if no one is being forced. It doesn't make sense to keep complaining because it's up to each person to look at an advertisement about gambling and choose whether to play or not and if they choose to play, before creating an account that person must look at the casino's TOS and see if the age requirement is met. you are promoting a casino and there is nothing wrong with that

The internet has no age restrictions but has on it contents and information with age restrictions. Underaged users of the internet will probably stumble upon restricted contents for underaged people. It derives their curiosity to participate in gambling, since nobody is watching. Streamers wouldn't stop advertising because they noticed an underage viewer in their channel. I commend parents that use parental control on their kid's device. Because nothing is wrong with what the streamers do since nobody is looking into stopping it. They need the generated funds to shoot more quality videos. To attract more viewers for their advertisers.

I think young people should help in stopping this by abiding to the rules and avoid gambling as an underage. The internet is open for everyone and I think parents hand out gadgets to their kids for educational purposes. And young people know that money can be made on the internet. They'll easily follow any ad that promises money. Or to know how they do it, they'll watch videos where people show they've made a fortune from gambling. Since the streamers are under the gambling niche, they're not completely to be blamed.

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April 25, 2024, 10:17:59 PM
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what if the money or account they are using is not their money or account? Is it an account from the gambling platform that they let the streamers use in order to promote the platform? I can't ignore the fact that a theory might be possible. Anyway, what do you think? or can you say about this streamer transitioning to streamers whose content is gambling? Feel free to share your insights.
So you're basically asking about two different things here? One of them is the probability that the streamer is practically tricking their viewers into promoting the service, while the other is the risk of underage viewers who might gamble because of him.

I don't think this is exclusive to gambling marketing activity. I remember reading a claim saying a streamer is using a demo account of some sort when they advertise an exchange. Even you can find the same thing with gacha game (you might argue they are also gambling activity, but that's a different discussion). I think there is no solution to stop this unless you want to bring legal issues and so on. As a viewer it will be better to assume they don't spend any money when they gamble, so just look at the features they're showing you. It is a bit naive to decide which platform you will use based on whether a streamer is making money from it or not. CMIIW.

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April 25, 2024, 10:45:29 PM
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I don't blame them, but the thing is, they sell their dignity in order to promote gambling, maybe because the offer is too good for them to refuse,
It's all because of money. They're certainly sponsored or paid for doing so. Thus who can't resist if the offer is too good? It's quite normal nowadays. These streamers are attracting their viewers to also gamble on the specific casino. Because this kind of promotion is one of the effective way to lure many people to play.

Seeing someone to win huge is really tempting to try it for yourself. Although it seems these streamers lost their dignity for not even thinking their minor viewers, but that's how it is when it comes to money. They're paid so what can you expect.

Social media or the internet is the biggest means or place or the main focus for most casinos to promote their gambling sites because they can reach more people who will become targets or victims, in any way whether it's with an advertisement or through the intermediary of the stremer with a scenario of doing a video show on one of the social media by showing a big win which makes most people who see it feel tempted. Another thing is that it is clear as you say that it is very unlikely for a stremer to refuse an offer from a casino to help promote their site because of something that the money offered by the casino is usually a very large amount and it is difficult to refuse it because after all everyone needs and wants money.

On the other hand, I am sure and believe that most of the gamblers who now come and get involved in gambling are those who fall or get carried away after seeing the promotional video shows made by the stremers, they do not fully know that the actual video shows that look very tempting are actually nothing more than a temptation that will eventually trap them in many downturns. The fact is that everyone will become blind when they see money, most of them find it difficult to think rationally or consider something first before getting involved if it is about the “ease of getting money” which is actually just a trap. On the other hand, everyone will only think about themselves, including the stringers who cooperate with the casino, they only care about themselves to get a lot of money from the agreement with the casino and they don't think about the fate of the people who see the promotional show and who eventually fall into the following by suffering many problems in it.

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April 25, 2024, 11:09:30 PM
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Have you notice? In the streaming community, the influence of gambling is getting worse. Have you noticed that many streamers have started to stream gambling and promote it? Sad, but it's the reality. I'm noticing that the streamers I'd used to watch because of their gaming contents and also streams that they do while gaming are fading; they are focusing on and promoting gambling platforms, and the alarming thing is that those streamers used to have young viewers who also played the games they were streaming, and suddenly they left it all out and changed what they streamed, which was gambling.

Money always speaks louder!

A long time ago, people first had a hobby: "Playing video games or computer games", and because they spent a lot of time playing and having fun, they started broadcasting online just to "show off" but discovered that this gained them a lot of viewers and consequently money on the correct platforms like Youtube, for example.
It didn't take long for other people to start doing this too, but notice that the main purpose was no longer fun but rather views, always aiming for more profitability.

When they discover that gambling games pay more, especially sponsored games, it is "normal" to see these people change their focus.

Fortunately, gambling has expanded a lot and today we have access to many platforms in a much easier way than in the past. But unfortunately the whole world is focused on making money from this so that other interesting content is being left aside.

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Have you notice? In the streaming community, the influence of gambling is getting worse. Have you noticed that many streamers have started to stream gambling and promote it? Sad, but it's the reality. I'm noticing that the streamers I'd used to watch because of their gaming contents and also streams that they do while gaming are fading; they are focusing on and promoting gambling platforms, and the alarming thing is that those streamers used to have young viewers who also played the games they were streaming, and suddenly they left it all out and changed what they streamed, which was gambling.

Money always speaks louder!

This just sums it up.

Money will always speaks louder especially to those who have ambitions and want to do something with the money. Values and morals are thrown out the window by most people the moment they realize there is a huge money involved in the activity. This is the only motivation from streamers why they stream in the first place, and when the opportunity knocks, they for sure won't want to miss it. These streamers are streaming other things previously before they streamed casino games. They abandon their format because for sure, the money is good from these huge gambling companies.

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April 26, 2024, 04:13:21 AM
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Those streamers know what they doing, if they were not used to promote gambling and now they choose to stream about gambling, they will lose their followers. If their channels are big and already make a lot money, they won't accept to promote gambling since they don't want to disappoint their followers.

What makes them want to promote gambling is when their streams are no longer attractive and not many people watch them anymore, so they didn't make a lot money. Instead of trying to learn and evaluate the problem, they choose to promote gambling since it's the instant way for them to earn.

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April 26, 2024, 06:04:21 AM
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I don't see anything wrong with that. You need to realize and understand why they have started streaming in the first place. One doesn't get into streaming because they want to pass their time, they can play games without going live if they want to do that, but they do it so that they can earn money from it, it's their profession and if they are making changes that they are free to make to increase their income or anything, they would do it for sure.

A lot of streamers tend to change their content when they see their viewership is dropping since many viewers get bored of the same thing and they might stop watching, so they might try different things, mostly things that are currently trending so that they can get a better viewership for their streams and hence earn more money.

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April 26, 2024, 07:09:37 AM
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I think we cannot prevent that from happening, and as long as they are not making any illegal thing, they should be allowed to continue doing their thing. They just want people to sign up and make money from their, that's the reality in the world we are living now.

However, we should not condone them because they are just doing their job to earn a living, and as long as gambling is not illegal in our country they have every rights to promote it. What the government should do is to educate people, about the risk of gambling, and IMO, that's the only solution, not ban.

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April 26, 2024, 07:31:03 AM
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The problem isn't to promote gambling industry, rather it's how they are promoting gambling industry. If there are warnings telling people about the risks of gambling and guiding them on how to be responsible gamblers, there isn't any issues. It's a legit, transparent and fair propaganda. The problem is when these streamers lie to their public and give the wrong impressions about gambling. A common example is when they say gambling is a source of extra income and that people should gamble to make their wages grow into larger sums of money.
This is true, there is no problem if these streamers will have a disclosure that they're promoting a casino and the kids or whoever is in not at the right age shouldn't patronize and gamble. It's only for the adults that have jobs and can sustain their gambling enjoyment. Otherwise, it's not for all the audiences of the streamers that are doing their thing and livelihood through that craft they have. There are many responsible and as well as irresponsible viewers that the streamers can't control but the same goes to them when they don't tell a lot of facts about the casino that they promote.

Most of the time, they'll be given some demo account and it's going to have a lot of money on it and letting the fans think that they've got a lot of money deposited in there. But little did they know, it's not what they think. All of the money that are into that account of streamers are actually activated by the casino themselves and they're just demos so that they can show it to their viewers on what kind of gamblers they are. Another twist is this, the chance of winning of those streamers account are very much high compared to the accounts of the customers that will try to sign up under them. It's just so crazy and the marketing level is on a different level with that because they want to take advantage of those streamers that has a wide engagement.
Streamers are delicate. They must entertain and pay the bills, which is difficult. Flashy demo accounts with cash? The picture is deceiving, right? These accounts are rigged to lure you in. Smart marketing, but dishonest.

Not all streamers are to blame. Lack of upfront disclosure is the issue. Simply saying "Hey everyone, I'm getting paid to promote this" is enough. Knowing the score, adults could choose. We need true transparency with kids. They must realize that what they see isn't everything. Education and protecting the vulnerable

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April 26, 2024, 07:47:28 AM
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They sell their dignity in order to promote gambling, maybe because the offer is too good for them to refuse, but the concept of them abandoning their dignity and ignoring the fact that they could have a bad influence on their viewers,

Bruh, do you realize you are also wearing a casino signature and avatar? When you say they are abandoning their dignity to get paid by the casinos, it makes me confused.
I suppose it’s more justifiable at his or her end because, he ain’t operating a streaming channel and as such, kids aren’t finding there ways to gambling site.
I am very much against kids and the immature in mind and thoughts gambling but, I don’t blame streamers when they aren’t censoring what the content they are promoting.
While you might control how you approach gambling, you can’t control how others react towards it and that’s fair game. That’s why it’s said, you should gamble responsibly. You owe that to yourself and the gambling industry.
I will always be against the streamers who sell or who say they get into platforms that are only for them to make money, it doesn't matter if they become scams, the majority of strearms care and only earn money by advertising any game, to any casino, giving false advice, in fact this is something that has become very popular, pyramid schemes, all this has been seen so that they can generate money only for themselves, the only platform that maintains its concept for me is YouTube, Because Twitch is the only thing that can exist, so since they banned casino games, for me this has become a total nightmare, I no longer believe in streamers, only in the most famous ones.
What is the point of not believing streamers yet still choose to listen to the famous ones. Obviously all the streamers are the same, whether famous or not and its a big issue for those following their channels for fake advice. They try to make the history so real so that their followers would believe that they have real money in their betting platform.

Some edits the screenshot of their bets or use demo money with a deposit/withdrawal to make it look so real, which can be done in some crazy casinos. This is why it is good to make good choice of casinos used in gambling.

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April 26, 2024, 07:54:56 AM
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Have you notice? In the streaming community, the influence of gambling is getting worse. Have you noticed that many streamers have started to stream gambling and promote it? Sad, but it's the reality. I'm noticing that the streamers I'd used to watch because of their gaming contents and also streams that they do while gaming are fading; they are focusing on and promoting gambling platforms, and the alarming thing is that those streamers used to have young viewers who also played the games they were streaming, and suddenly they left it all out and changed what they streamed, which was gambling.

I don't blame them, but the thing is, they sell their dignity in order to promote gambling, maybe because the offer is too good for them to refuse, but the concept of them abandoning their dignity and ignoring the fact that they could have a bad influence on their viewers, even if they put a warning about being responsible in gambling, the thing is, people or viewers will for sure be attracted if they see the streamers getting or winning too much money. And the theory is that, what if the money or account they are using is not their money or account? Is it an account from the gambling platform that they let the streamers use in order to promote the platform? I can't ignore the fact that a theory might be possible. Anyway, what do you think? or can you say about this streamer transitioning to streamers whose content is gambling? Feel free to share your insights.

       -     You know honestly speaking here in our country almost all our local streamers in gambling online are deceivers. why did i say because almost all of the ones they show live streaming are replay videos.

then they show it live while they are live, and what they say is a lie just to fool their viewers to make it appear that what they are showing live gambling play is true. so they are not really good influencers actually, instead they hook viewers.

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April 26, 2024, 07:55:32 AM
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The problem isn't to promote gambling industry, rather it's how they are promoting gambling industry. If there are warnings telling people about the risks of gambling and guiding them on how to be responsible gamblers, there isn't any issues. It's a legit, transparent and fair propaganda. The problem is when these streamers lie to their public and give the wrong impressions about gambling. A common example is when they say gambling is a source of extra income and that people should gamble to make their wages grow into larger sums of money.
This is true, there is no problem if these streamers will have a disclosure that they're promoting a casino and the kids or whoever is in not at the right age shouldn't patronize and gamble. It's only for the adults that have jobs and can sustain their gambling enjoyment. Otherwise, it's not for all the audiences of the streamers that are doing their thing and livelihood through that craft they have. There are many responsible and as well as irresponsible viewers that the streamers can't control but the same goes to them when they don't tell a lot of facts about the casino that they promote.

Most of the time, they'll be given some demo account and it's going to have a lot of money on it and letting the fans think that they've got a lot of money deposited in there. But little did they know, it's not what they think. All of the money that are into that account of streamers are actually activated by the casino themselves and they're just demos so that they can show it to their viewers on what kind of gamblers they are. Another twist is this, the chance of winning of those streamers account are very much high compared to the accounts of the customers that will try to sign up under them. It's just so crazy and the marketing level is on a different level with that because they want to take advantage of those streamers that has a wide engagement.
Streamers are delicate. They must entertain and pay the bills, which is difficult. Flashy demo accounts with cash? The picture is deceiving, right? These accounts are rigged to lure you in. Smart marketing, but dishonest.

Not all streamers are to blame. Lack of upfront disclosure is the issue. Simply saying "Hey everyone, I'm getting paid to promote this" is enough. Knowing the score, adults could choose. We need true transparency with kids. They must realize that what they see isn't everything. Education and protecting the vulnerable

Expect about they do crazy thing to entertain people since this is their job and this is their way to earn a money to sustain their daily needs or even their vices. If we can see that they are to good to be true like they are spending large bet size in just single round without having any hesitation in mind for sure that these streamers are just using a demo account and just wanna try to manipulate the minds of people that they are really so good and a risk taker on the casino games they played.

This is dangerous if they show up some fake winning result since there would be a lot of guys will be interested to try what the guys do to see if they can also get the same large winning result.  And to feel something like to be greedy to achieve that is somehow dangerous for normal people since they might encounter huge defeat when they execute those methods taught by those streamers.

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April 26, 2024, 08:07:48 AM
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This is dangerous if they show up some fake winning result since there would be a lot of guys will be interested to try what the guys do to see if they can also get the same large winning result.  

Do not believe in everything we watch in the internet. That's why people should educate themselves about such gambling stream or gambling in general. As I said before in this thread, if there are many people get attracted to try because of big win shown in the gambling stream and they believe that will get the same big win but they do not aware that gambling is all about luck or do not know that losing chance is big then it is their own fault.

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