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Just leaving this here.....

https://products.butterflylabs.com/homepage-new-products/1-th-bitcoin-miner.html

performance of plus or minus 20%

Get your 801Gh miners here!!

DELIVER CRAP BEFORE YOU SHOVE MORE CRAP DOWN FOR PREORDERS. Good lord, BFL really pisses me off.

haha, you must be new here...

Why someone did not  closed that factory

Why they offer f... Pieces

Closed ASAP bfl labs

Not new to BTC, but new to this forum yes  ;D
I can't believe BFL has the audacity to ask for money....

In the time Ive been here, I have yet to see BFL deliver anything thats worth more than the chewing gum stuck to my shoe at the time of delivery.

more sucker will buy ... nothing U can do about it :(

Here's the LIE!!!!!!!!!!!!

Shipping Schedule
This is a Pre-Order product which is not yet shipping.  If you're uncomfortable waiting until the development is complete and the product is shipped, do NOT pre-order this product. Perhaps undesirable, but this is a pre-order market.  Customers flatly demand to get in line for the new technology before it's finished development.  This has created a lot of drama for the manufacturers but it's something we simply have to deal with.  All manufacturers in this space have experienced some degree of delay with their first generation ASIC.  Every last one of them, so we're reluctant to give a specific delivery date.  However, this is our second generation, so we have much greater clarity  on the process and plan to begin shipments in March 2014.  Orders are shipped in order date priority so any order placed now should be expected to be delivered in June.

https://products.butterflylabs.com/homepage-new-products/1-th-bitcoin-miner.html

WOW talk about Lying to your FACE, NO Shame!

https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTO8HHYpeZX12KkY1MIunkKEznLd2B7AF8HvGQzm31fAlb-P12k

In other news, just got off the phone with a nice District Attorney who is preparing a case against Butterfly Labs, who wanted to discuss and get more details on the complaints I submitted last year.

What do you know... The justice system works, even if the wheels do turn slower than we'd like sometimes.

*whistles innocently*

Yay time to watch a new generation bitch and moan "where is my device BFL", "Hurry, it's not going to break even let alone make a profit", "stop mining with my equipment BFL"....


BIG FUCKING LIARS

Honestly at this point anyone who orders so much as a stick of chewing gum from these fraudsters gets exactly what they deserve, which will be nothing.

Seriosuly?!?!?! Keep me posted! Want to see BFL burn to the ground!

I've got to admit that miner looks real and i love to be able to use it in PC like a GPU

How would you use it like a gpu? Unless your video games run exclusively on sha256 hash have fun pal.

Nice you should make a thread and keep us post it on how its going :) ???

if you actually believe he had a chat with a DA and they are preparing a case against bfl, i have a bridge in my back yard to sell to you.  

Only 100 btc...

Government doesnt care, bfl is too small for them.

More HashFail chips/boards in the wild!

All this pre-order stuff is like a Ponzi Scam.

 I honestly don't know how to reasonably respond to that, other than to ask you what possible motivation I would have to lie about receiving the aforementioned call ?

 If it makes you feel any better, the nice fellow did add (paraphrasing) "At least you got some money back. I have a lot more calls I need to make with people who haven't"

 Check my history, friend.

They plan on using a single 120mm rad to dissipate 650W? hah

At wall consumption. But still that's a lot of heat to dissipate, even for a thick push/pull 120 mill rad. I still think its possible, noise will definitely be a factor.

So do you actually need a motherboard or host computer for this thing to work?

If so, that seems retarded.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jYNMKdv36w (Hitler reacts to first Monarch announcement)
Not again... ??? ???

haha, the bold and the BFL.. a brand new season comming this spring.

it actually would be funny if there wherent so many people left in ruins by this company.

why nobody burned their entire busines to the ground yet is a mystery to me. i think they got enough enemies by now.
i would have done unspeakable things to this company and the lowlife who is their spokesperson ( cant remember his name atm)..
something like those saw movies or something.

How could anyone serious about bitcoin consider BFL as an option ?

By the time you get your unit, if you ever do..... it will mine about the same btc as you would with an toaster oven hooked up to the network.

Yes. Well considering you could put 6 of these together (assuming spacing with risers and your mobo supports) that's pretty nice. It allows you to scale well as well. But since these are never shipping, it doesn't matter :P

maybe i`ll order 2 of them. i need something to keep my books from falling over on the shelve.  :P

they might as well just ship those straight to the computer history museum, they collect outdated hardware. maybe they can make a special BFL floor.

hmm, those jokes are just to easy, i can keep going all night  :D

VMC is doing something like that as well. but you have to buy the board to hold the cards from them i believe.

http://virtualminingcorp.com/shop1/index.php?id_product=26&controller=product (http://virtualminingcorp.com/shop1/index.php?id_product=26&controller=product)

Supposedly you can also use the USB connectors, so you don't need to go back to building 2011-style contraptions with motherboards, risers and GPU-shaped devices hovering above.

That's what I'm thinking too!  I thought those mining with your motherboards with a trillion cards days are long gone.

BFL still living in the past, ASIC era now is all about racking them up in a datacenter in a thin form factor like Spondoolies Tech.

Still don't know how Spondoolies fit all that hashpower effectively in 1.25 U form factor, but hey I guess that's what you get when you get a bunch of Intel, Google, Nokia guys together to make a kick ass ASIC!   8)

BFL still making mining PCIe x1 cards...LOLOL ;D

it never gets old hahhahah

lol you could put 6 toaster ovens together too and have  the same result,, 

amazing

BFL always cracks me up. I also like the fact that they still show the GPU board with a single little fan on the product page. This circus never ends!

BFL: "this is a preorder market" ... lol.

I have a chip that hashes twice as fast as BFL's best chip, costs half as much, and ships two weeks earlier than their stuff.
Send me your BTC and I will send you the chip.
The company is named AFL2.0 or something that markets well.

(space reserved for things that tap into the reptilian brain of people with more BTC than sense)

I'm talking about all the fun tinkering with your everyday pc equipment.
With an asic machine you are as if buying a dell PC.
I'm PC modding enthusiast, i think i like it more than gaming itself.
So with this form I can mine and have fun building a PC at the same time.

That's kind of expensive fun, man.

Especially if most people have to wait a year plus for that fun.

Does it ever end with these clowns?

They are at this point just wholesale suckering people into buying shit that doesn't exist. They are no better than any other fly-by-night mining scam.

I can vouch that Xian01 has [in the past] had contact with various AG/DA.

You are obviously the "newguy" around here....

+1 oh... we can only dream that end times are near. "Repent! The end is nigh BFL."

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ-fg5XCL14hgquvhqj3X2rBX8w-K500-dC16UJwloj5vs_exli

im sure they will find some fools to believe them

Good idea,
I have a toaster you can buy. It's a 54th generation toaster, so I know very well how this thing works  ;)
This is the hottest toaster in the world. Once sold for 500BTC, now on sale for just 200BTC

I also host your pre-toasted bread for just 5BTC per month.


Edit after 5 Month:
Ok, I got informed that this toaster doesn't have any network connection, therefor you get now a discount of 0.1mBTC

 :o :o :o :o :o :o

I DO!  I DO BELIEVE IN FAIRIES!

http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BMTI2ODU3NTA5MF5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTcwNTgzMzUyMQ@@._V1_SY317_CR4,0,214,317_.jpg


That toaster came out in 1987 about the same time the BFL Imperial Monarch design was started.

Oh sign me up hurry!! F  BFL!

Thank god for BitcoinTalk...

Wait a minute, Josh. Ah... Are you telling me that you built a time machine... out of a DeLorean?

Almost finished penning a funny in re. time machine related.

If you're goin' to bring on the funny, at least add a pic (or two, or three, or...).

http://www.ralphkeyes.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/toasters-museum-21.jpg

All your hosted toasters can be remotely overclocked (note the clock).
Security is not an issue at our hosting facility (note the cameras).
Anything hashed can immediately be obfuscated (note the not one, but two mixers).

Before some smart-ass inquires about cooling all them toasters...

http://blog.lightingcatalog.com/Portals/30822/images//museum_splash.jpg

At TMF (Toaster Mining Facility), we were the first to introduce internal cameras to view the innards of each and every Toaster Miner, making sure 24/7 that maximum hashing is achieved.

http://images.gizmag.com/inline/oldtimecomputer-11.jpg

Speaking of 24/7, a myriad backup generators stand at ready in case of the proverbial struck by lighting event.

http://www.vinsonfarm.net/photos/atkinson_engines.jpg

Unlike other hosting firms, TMF does not farm out its support center to some Third World Country, but is Red-manned right here in the US of A.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-VvnBfw3YfvU/UAmdQklqOFI/AAAAAAAAHKk/0GL-WpszHgQ/s1600/Female+Indian+telephone+switchboard+operator+-+%2522Helen+of+Many+Glacier+Hotel%2522%252C+26+June+1925.jpg

Of course, TMF is not just a hosting facility for your precious miners. Far from it. We also build custom Toaster Miners, hence recently acquiring the state-of-the art overflow oven off eBay.

http://st.houzz.com/simgs/fbe167d70261b1c9_4-4220/mediterranean-grills.jpg

The next time you're in town, please stop by TMF, whereupon our well-trained flock would be happy to give you the grand tour.

http://wallpapersus.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/chicken-men-funny-subway.jpg

http://www.quickmeme.com/img/32/32b4229145de0a2c1171b9b5757f25dfaa1bbf7b9be0b687be4dd5aec76a34d6.jpg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsW9MlYu31g

Check the sponsor...

http://takemybitcoins.tv/

Dude, like I said, if you're going to bring on the funny, at least supply the most appropriate video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpE_xMRiCLE At :38 is classic!

All things considered, I think your imaginary  toaster will hash faster than BFL imaginary monarch. Heck you might get ROI for the kick and giggles where monarch never will!

Anybody get the Gameshow email from BFL ???

http://takemybitcoins.tv/?mc_cid=2f7b6cf5a0&mc_eid=c16ff9a5f4

Good luck getting them THIS year. Will not trust them again after only getting my single ONE YEAR later.

you guys wanna laugh hard? I mean REAL hard??

look at this BFL forum and see all the idiots who are upgrading their 8 months old Monarch orders to this "Imperial" monarch by paying $744 !!

https://forums.butterflylabs.com/monarch-discussion/8075-2014-mar-4-monarch-discussion-30.html (https://forums.butterflylabs.com/monarch-discussion/8075-2014-mar-4-monarch-discussion-30.html)

I really do have sympathy for new miners who get caught by BFL..
but for an idiot whose been promised a 3 month wait, then waits 8 months only to buy more!?
wtf is wrong with people

Lol for 744$ you could buy almost 2 Antminer instant, with ~400Gh/s (the upgrade amount)

Who throw good money in the same hole and dosn't learn? The world is full of idiots, and i am in the wrong business.

A lot of people. Often called "chasing a loss"

http://www.gamblingresearch.org/synopses/details.php?id=86

I suggest without payment receipt and proof of an order number in an order queue I doubt that is a real person ordering. There are so many faux accounts on the forums at BFL I bet that fake accounts out number the real ones that are active. The customers they trap tend to have a 1 time horrible experience and learn from it. If you see people buying a 2nd or 3rd time they are being paid off more often than not. See BCP as an example. He was such a great customer he bought a 300 gh/s "on sale". He knew they wouldn't deliver or he'd have bet the farm the way he backs BFL.

Sad to say but anything on the BFL forums is pretty much a single voice and has little to do with what real customers want or expect in this market. Antminer if you want something now. Spondoolies if you want to wait a little more. One Strings from Ben are shipping now so those are few options. Not 14 months and still no 28nm chip... you can't reasonably believe that BFL is going to ship these things at all do you?

Hey, it's the renegger again!  How's that FRC treating ya? I see it's down to $.011 cents now, hows that $7000 bath feel?  So sad you crowed over your great investment (when you were supposed to buy $2800 of BTC but reneged and bought $160 of FRC), but now it's in the toilet.  Kinda like your WASP project... 4 months overdue and by the time you produce a working model the cost to build the board for outdated chips will exceede the possibility of ROI.  Puts you smack dab into BFL territory!  Since this will be your third failure, you're definitely in the mix!

man so much for consumer protection rules in the USA I'd be better off taking plane ride to Europe
ordering stuff from asic miners ....have someone then forward it to the states..cause their consumer protection is better
overseas it seems...the only refunds in middle / late 2013 by BFL I heard about went to Europe due to their protections
they told the rest of us to lump it

USA it screw you sucker ....stay away from info commercials...

so the only thing that is constant is Josh is richer now by probably 3x then when i ordered my 'phantom' April GH hash from BFL

er that was April 2013 for anyone knew on here and wondering how that dates could be so far off in this thread...er they ain't

Searing

similar discussion about the hashfast units. But its been shown that the corsair H80i can handle at least 250W of heat in the babyjet boards and supposedly will be able to handle up to 750W in the yolievo boards

AFAIK, the most heat you would see from a high-end overclocked CPU is 400-550W, so im pretty interested to se how such a small liquid cooling solution handles at >600W

Stand in solidarity with the hundreds of customers that got scammed like Martin Meissner (http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/02/new-lawsuit-against-bitcoin-miner-manufacturer-alleges-fraud-negligence/) who is still looking to recover $62,000 from BFL. Do not pre-order BFL products like this vaporware the Imperial Monarch or use their cloud mining operations.

Butterfly Labs lost a civil case by default in Kansas’ Johnson County Court in late November 2013. The plaintiff, a Californian named William Lolli, won a judgement (http://www.scribd.com/doc/204954150/Lolli-v-BF-Labs-Petition) of over $13,000 but told Ars that he had not yet collected the award.

These cases are still going on all the while BFL is spamming the trust system to gain more customers?

TAKE A STAND AGAINST BFL'S SPAM (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=558001.0)

here is where it starts to get fun!!!

http://www.woodlaw.com/sites/default/files/casedocs/2014-04-04%20Complaint.pdf


Class action lawsuit underway by a law firm so tenacious that in my opinion there will be nothing left after this is over.

JOSH update your resume'

BCP needs a new job!!

Hopefully the lawsuit works and BFL gets delayed all the way to jail ;D

These are civil lawsuits, no one goes to jail.

Although if fraud is discovered a criminal action may not be far behind

My favorite part is where Sonny gets a house and car, and who knows how many private loans to other employees  :D

Jailhouse Bubba's gonna have new boytoy BFL byatchs to give good loving to.

Hey Josh, you might want to wear your new Big Boy pants when you go to jail. You know the orange kind.

oh god these guys still aren't in jail?

It's a good thing that the class action lawsuit has started

Oh god this is so good sooooooo much win in there.  Things are just warming up in the legal arena when it comes to these companies.  These ignorant stupid fucks will likely get to see how the real world works.  Can't hide in Deadwood forever ASSHOLES, time for your comuppins!!

They want personal and business PC's for discovery.  The paper work looks good I think they will probably get what they are asking for.  Once they get inside it is good night BF Labs in my opinion.

One thing that stood out for me was this quote:
willfully using an exaggeration, falsehood, innuendo, or ambiguity as to a material fact, specifically regarding when shipment of mining equipment would occur and/or that mining equipment most likely would be shipped within two months or sooner;

Hey Inaba that silver tongue of yours is gonna get your buddy Sonny in some trouble HAHAHAHA, maybe you can use that silver tongue to lick the underside of the lawyers bag while they fuck Sonny in the legal asshole AGAIN. 

The ball is rolling now, time to sit back and enjoy things as Karma works its magic!

Why do I need a new job?  Are they moving to Iowa?

Knock knock knock... you have been served.

New job as in no longer a paid shill here in https://bitcointa.lk/

Time to move along nothing to post here.


I think it is time some of us take a stand against shills. If you think BCP is supporting BFL in continuing to defraud people feel free to add that to his trust ratings as I have. Let people know that SHILLS are dangerous.

 bcp19 Trust Rating (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=135662)

Reference (http://www.woodlaw.com/sites/default/files/casedocs/2014-04-04%20Complaint.pdf)




Remember BCP has continuously shown his support for BFL and the following person:

Wait a second....isn't "Josh" a shareholder?

Why do you think he hasn't been "FIRED"?

He is neck deep in this shit and a slap on the wrist, like his last time as defendant in a case, will be wishful thinking on his part.

@ Bick

[speculation]

The next thing you'll probably tell me is that Josh is going to sue as a shareholder to protect himself from what he "discovered" was...some kind of ongoing fraud against his stake in the company?

Nah, you wouldn't ever say that, because you know it's not true.  :-X

Edit: Oh, lol, next you'll probably also try to assure me that all of the upper management of BFL were also shareholders in the company? You know I wouldn't believe you even if you implied it. :D :o

If he has half a brain then he'd be flipping now to stay ahead of the 25 million USD baggie of flaming dog feces that is BFL's pre-order haul. When that drops on someone they will never be able to stop drop and roll that stink off of them and the rest of their life will be a trail burnt dog shit leading right to your door wherever you go. Just like Mr. Vleisides felony conviction. I am guessing Josh will gamble on his lawyers being better so he can keep the 'loans' he got. He really does have a gambling problem besides the ethics issues in my humble opinion.

DO NOT ORDER from BFL.  This company will take your money and keep delaying your bitcoin miner until it's worthless.

How these cocksuckers aren't in jail is beyond me.  It just goes to show how corporate america is allowed to FUCK YOU and get away with it!

Supposedly there is currently a class action suit against BFL which will hopefully at the very least force them to shut down their website:

http://www.coindesk.com/butterfly-labs-faces-class-action-suit-pre-pay-orders/

Bick, Bick, Bick... You are one sad piece of work... I am paid nothing to post here, so you are spreading lies as well as falling into the trap set for you and the other trolls.  What trap you ask?  The one to help prove the trust rating is too easily abused.  After hearing about the 'experiment' you and others jumped right on the band wagon and abused the trust rating system.  Your continual abuse of it shows that you don't care about the system working.  I find it funny that you are actually supporting the person you hate so much by abusing the trust system and thereby proving it is a failure.  I applaud you!

I can't believe BFL is still in business...

I every other country of the world they would have been shut down long time ago..

Got any first hand information as a former BFL customer? Don't forget to help the class action here.  http://www.woodlaw.com/cases/butterfly-labs-and-bf-labs-inc-bitcoin-miners

because they always get the buyers

FTFY

Usually when you are buyer you get what you buy right away see  Bitmain (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=417159.0) or  OneString Miners (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=495536.0) on what a real buyer looks like in those threads as they are happy to have received what they bought in a reasonable timeframe as promised unlike what BFL has ever done and continues to do. In the instance BFL is paid they are marks in a confidence trick, (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confidence_trick) definitely not buyers.