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Just read this article: http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/technology/jamiebartlett/100012608/could-a-crypto-currency-like-bitcoin-help-child-pornographers-evade-police/. Quote: "But the Bitcoin Foundation has agreed to work with the Gates Foundation to try improve methods of stopping child exploitation, which is welcome."

Does anybody know, what these methods are the Bitcoin foundation is improving in order to stop the increasing number of transactions done in the context of distributing child pornography? What actions did they take so far? To my (limited) knowledge, any action that would prevent the current widespread usage of Bitcoin for purchases of child pornography would also directly undermine the anonymity of Bitcoin which is often seen as the one big advantage over common online payment systems. Does anybody have more information on this matter?

They should stop linking bitcoin directly to all kind of criminality. Instead, put the real bad asses to jail. If you destroy the source, all other indirect measures are not needed anymore. This applies for all kind of currencies in my opinion

Agree, but probably they want to make profit from that too.

+1

Besides, what have the authorities done other than shut down SilkRoad and seize a cool $80Mil.
There are other black markets and I am guessing child pornography on Tor.

What are they doing about it?
They are paid for a reason.

Let's not forget that ALL of these things don't happen because people want to make Bitcoins.
It happens because they want to make (fiat) money.

I am guessing if it was just Bitcoins we would know WHO gave WHAT to WHO for WHAT.

Correct me if I am wrong here....

+2 USA! USA! USA!

But now back to my initial question. What methods is the article referring to when saying "But the Bitcoin Foundation has agreed to work with the Gates Foundation to try improve methods of stopping child exploitation[...]"

NO, that is because they are pedophiles themselves!

Chile Porn is terrible and condone it, good thing to know the foundation will take steps in protecting Children from evil

A lot of idiocy I'm reading.

Child Pornographers and pedophiles will consume child porn with BTC or with cash or anyway they want. BTC doesn't make it easy for them, or if it does, makes it easy for everyone to make any kind of distant transaction faster.

Sex is fine, porn is fine and not all actors are on meth... But sorry if they like drugs... the financial crisis was originated in part by the euphoric state cause by cocaine in the members of that "well-respected" part of society called the upper-class (Wall Street and other decision makers). 

I think "condemn" is the word you are looking for.

If anybody ever Spotlight-searches the hard drives on my various Macs, they will find hundreds of hits on "child porn." Of course not one of them has any pics or vids in it, just copies of virtually every scientific article written on the topic in the past 30 years.


Oh--Michael Seto is a Canadian researcher who is maybe North America's foremost expert on child porn offenders.

all I'm saying. Is there an internet watchdog group that pays attention to government interference on the web? Seems like it would be a good idea to have one.

Bitcoin is not anonymous. It can be used anonymously if (tedious) precautions and measures are taken, and no mistakes are made. By default it's pseudo-anonymous, meaning obvious identity links don't exist. There is nothing wrong with enhancing police procedures to take advantage of mistakes made by criminals.

Well what happens if some uses a cleaning surface wont be able to trace it aftet that am I right.  If you guys think is not hard to mix up things and do many transactions that they will jsut get condfused

Wouldn't surprise if the foundation ends up trafficking cp

That would be the ultimate depressant - to spend your entire work day searching for child porn. Maybe this is a trick to see which guys apply for those jobs, so the police can investigate them.

Your posts never make any sense at all.

We are talking about child porn and if the feds search hard drives lol.  My post always make sense.  You stalking me???

You can find out more for yourself at bitcoinfoundation.org .

This, along with assassination markets and ransom-ware, are serious issues. The kind of things that will scare soccer moms and allow a pretext to be created by those who would like to see bitcoin go away.   

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In all seriousness though the people attacking Bitcoin are coming up with just about any kind of bullshit to scare people away from it, yes it's a bad thing, but they should be going after the people who do this not the currency itself.

I consider assassination markets an urban legend, I mean even the SR guy only could find a fed who posed as hitman ... or did I miss some story here?

I wish it was movie stuff.  :-\
The first link is to Jim Bell's original idea. Below that is a bitcoin implementation. This is a problem without a solution so far.

http://web.archive.org/web/20041009113523/http://jya.com/ap.htm
https://assmkedzgorodn7o.tor2web.blutmagie.de/

BTC doesn't have anonymity (by default), so the association with "really bad things" is often totally wrong.

New scandal, under the guise of searching for cp Bitcoin foundation raided for storing cp

Anyone who clicks on those links will be known to the NSA as being interested in assassination markets.
(Safety in numbers?) If everyone clicks, they probably will not investigate all of us...

You wouldn't believe how much I loled at this comment, especially after reading previous posts of his.

child porn is fun.  it emphasizes fun over sex.  which is fun!

Either you're mentally disabled or pathetic but most likely both, I loled at " Your posts never make any sense at all" as clearly stated... get some help guy.

ok i got some help.  the help said put my $2 billion worth of Bitcoins into Microsoft

Thank you. Unfortunately, I wasn't able to find that much on the topic of child pornography and bitcoin on the bitcoinfoundation website. There are one or two discussions in the forum.

In the thread https://bitcoinfoundation.org/forum/index.php?/topic/185-the-virtual-economy-potential-perplexities-and-promises/ Joel Dalais suggests to set up a task force that in cooperation with Bitcoin exchanges would support authorities in tracking down the real persons behind a transaction related to child porn.

Was this ever implemented? Wouldn't a shared user database between the different exchanges expose an even bigger security risk than just trusting one exchange with your personal details which in some cases also include passport or idcard copies?

Bad things are done with money, not that money is a a bad thing.  It just means that if the money is successful enough it will be used for what it is, as a tool.  Good or bad intentions.  Lets not forget that usd has been historically used for shady dealings.  Bitcoin will also be used for such dealings.  There is no viable way to stop 100% of the bad actors from using crypto or fiat to do bad things.

if it's truly bad it wouldn't be worth any money now would it be?

Well that could be spun in different ways.  If its bad then general populace will stay away from it and not give it value.  If its bad and may bring much harm, then you may find bad people may pay a decent amount for this tool.

Yet what we see from the assassination Tor site is a small list of names with fairly low amounts of bitcoin pledged and apparently not a single prior prediction paid out.

I also saw that link appear several times in the many recent threads regarding Mark Karpeles, and despite the number of people wishing him harm or death clearly his name has not yet been added.

So from those facts I come to the conclusion that very few people take that site seriously enough to pledge funds and no one takes it seriously enough to make a prediction come true. i.e. it doesn't disprove the statement that assassination markets are an urban legend.

wow really, im starting to think these posters like these are in there teens or 20's  Please contribute something positive to the forums.

I think you are right that there is little interest in this compared to how much talk there is. However, the system does work in theory and it will only take one hit to draw serious regulation. It could easily lead to a total tracking of all coins; even an outright ban. Almost nobody wants that now.

Thanks for the links and the discussion. Just to make this thread complete here's a relevant article:
http://www.dailydot.com/news/dread-pirate-roberts-silk-road-second-murder-plot/

And I still think assasination markets are NOT real.

Bitcoin has no fingers, and no penis. Bitcoin cannot rape children