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Title: NiceHash.com - get paid more than mining on multipool - Scrypt/N/X11/X13/SHA3
Post by: kenshirothefist on April 14, 2014, 09:53:33 AM
If you haven't already heard - there is a new service out there, allowing you to earn more with your rigs!

Why use NiceHash for selling your hashing power? A couple of things to stress out:

- simple as using a multipool (no registration, no contracts, no bonds to either hash power buyers of NiceHash service)
- be paid more than multipool pays
- automatic payments in Bitcoins 4 times a day (so you can jump in to good payout very quickly)
- no limits - use as many rigs as you like
- textual and graphical statistics

I really welcome you to check on FAQ's. I would especially recommend these selected topics:

General:
How exactly does pay-per-valid-share and get-paid-per-valid share work?
http://nicehash.com/index.jsp?p=faq#faqg2

Rig providers: sellers:
Which miners are supported?
http://nicehash.com/index.jsp?p=faq#faqs0

How can I configure my miner to work with NiceHash service?
http://nicehash.com/index.jsp?p=faq#faqs1

I have slow mining rig. Can I adjust difficulty?
http://nicehash.com/index.jsp?p=faq#faqs7

Can you help me with transition to sgminer?
http://nicehash.com/index.jsp?p=faq#faqs8

So, just give it a try, point your:

Scrypt miners to:
stratum+tcp://stratum.nicehash.com:3333

Or SHA256 miners to:
stratum+tcp://stratum.nicehash.com:3334

Or Scrypt-Adaptive-Nfactor miners to:
stratum+tcp://stratum.nicehash.com:3335

Use your Bitcoin address as username. Use any password you like.

There are already orders on NiceHash waiting for your hash power!

Here is link to official ANN thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=562238.0


Title: Re: NiceHash.com - rig owners needed - get paid more than mining on multipool!
Post by: kenshirothefist on April 14, 2014, 01:17:26 PM
Just a quick note for GridSeed owners: If you're using GridSeed miners we suggest you to either use the latest BFGMiner for GridSeed (http://cryptomining-blog.com/1396-download-bfgminer-3-10-0-for-windows-scrypt-mining-on-gridseed-5-chip-asics/) or if you're using RasberyPi for the controller you can use Hashra Controla (http://hashra.com/support/), Hashra Controla GIT source (https://github.com/HASHRA/CONTROLA).


Title: Re: NiceHash.com - rig owners needed - better than multipools - orders already p
Post by: kenshirothefist on April 14, 2014, 04:18:18 PM
Miners are seriously needed! There are plenty good paying Scrypt orders! Give it a try and point your miners to NiceHash and get paid 4 times a day!


Title: Re: NiceHash.com - rig owners needed - better than multipools - orders already p
Post by: GBattaglia on April 14, 2014, 05:44:49 PM
Miners are seriously needed! There are plenty good paying Scrypt orders! Give it a try and point your miners to NiceHash and get paid 4 times a day!

How much are miners being paid in a BTC/day/MH calculation?


Title: Re: NiceHash.com - rig owners needed - get paid more than mining on multipool!
Post by: dogechode on April 14, 2014, 05:47:39 PM
1.) How much btc/MH/day is paid?

2.) This is literally just mine whenever you want to, no contracts or required time frames you have to complete in order to get paid and/or keep your earnings?


Title: Re: NiceHash.com - rig owners needed - get paid more than mining on multipool!
Post by: kenshirothefist on April 14, 2014, 06:11:00 PM
1.) How much btc/MH/day is paid?

Currently we're at 6.10 BTC/GH/Day (= 0.0061 BTC/MH/Day) ;) ... join the ride ASAP ;)

2.) This is literally just mine whenever you want to, no contracts or required time frames you have to complete in order to get paid and/or keep your earnings?

No contracts, no hassle, no worries! Just point your miner at our stratum and get paid 4-times per day (if your unpaid balance is greater than 0.002 BTC at each pay interval, otherwise you'll get paid at the next pay interval when you reach at least 0.002 BTC)!


Title: Re: NiceHash.com - rig owners needed - get paid more than mining on multipool!
Post by: dogechode on April 14, 2014, 06:29:02 PM
Most multipools are paying about 0.005/mh/day so that is at least a little bit of an improvement. When you pay out do you take the transaction fee out of our earnings? If so, it is possible to get paid less often than 4x a day to cut down on the fee losses?


Title: Re: NiceHash.com - rig owners needed - get paid more than mining on multipool!
Post by: kenshirothefist on April 14, 2014, 06:51:00 PM
Most multipools are paying about 0.005/mh/day so that is at least a little bit of an improvement.

Most multipools actually pays below 0.005 .. more like 0.004 .. see poolpicker.eu. And even if you take 0.005 we are currently at 0.0062 which is likee 25% better, quite a bit of improvement ;)

When you pay out do you take the transaction fee out of our earnings? If so, it is possible to get paid less often than 4x a day to cut down on the fee losses?

No, payments are processed in a single transaction therefore the transaction fee is negligible and is covered by NiceHash, we don't charge niether sellers nor the buyers for the transaction fee.

Anyway, thanks for the questions, if you have any other questions just ask or visit our FAQ section at https://nicehash.com/index.jsp?p=faq


Title: Re: NiceHash.com - rig owners needed - get paid more than mining on multipool!
Post by: kenshirothefist on April 14, 2014, 07:01:48 PM
We are currently at 0.0062 which is likee 25% better, quite a bit of improvement ;)

Sorry ... I was missleading you, actually best paying orders are already at 0.008+ BTC/mh/day ;) join the ride, seriously ;)


Title: Re: NiceHash.com - rig owners needed - get paid more than mining on multipool!
Post by: dogechode on April 14, 2014, 08:08:03 PM
Thanks, I'll point a few megs at it and try it out when I get home later. 0.08 would be a massive improvement over what I have been seeing from multipools recently, I'll see how it goes for a few days.


Title: Re: NiceHash.com - rig owners needed - get paid more than mining on multipool!
Post by: dogechode on April 15, 2014, 02:20:39 AM
Ok so I am trying it out but I am having trouble getting multiple cards running at the same time. Can you point more than 1 instance of sgminer at the same btc wallet address for this? When I try, the second instance of sgminer crashes. I tried this with multiple cards on different boxes.


Title: Re: NiceHash.com - rig owners needed - get paid more than mining on multipool!
Post by: VirosaGITS on April 15, 2014, 04:40:46 AM
I get intermittent streak of excessive reject rate, from a usually high-ish 2% that jump to 30% to even 100% for several minutes every other hour or so.

A system to protect rig owners from bad pools would be nice. I get it buyers want to pay for accepted shares but sellers don't want to lose 10-20% of their hashrate because buyers don,t know what they are doing.

Also a setting to sign up as a vanguard for miners to be switched would be good. Some people have miners that will do okay if they are immediately switched to highest profit order, while some people not.



Title: Re: NiceHash.com - rig owners needed - get paid more than mining on multipool!
Post by: VirosaGITS on April 15, 2014, 04:45:04 AM
Ok so I am trying it out but I am having trouble getting multiple cards running at the same time. Can you point more than 1 instance of sgminer at the same btc wallet address for this? When I try, the second instance of sgminer crashes. I tried this with multiple cards on different boxes.

It works exactly the same way you would setup multiple GPU for any other multipool.


Title: Re: NiceHash.com - rig owners needed - get paid more than mining on multipool!
Post by: kenshirothefist on April 15, 2014, 06:18:31 AM
I get intermittent streak of excessive reject rate, from a usually high-ish 2% that jump to 30% to even 100% for several minutes every other hour or so.

A system to protect rig owners from bad pools would be nice. I get it buyers want to pay for accepted shares but sellers don't want to lose 10-20% of their hashrate because buyers don,t know what they are doing.

Also a setting to sign up as a vanguard for miners to be switched would be good. Some people have miners that will do okay if they are immediately switched to highest profit order, while some people not.

There is nothing to worry about this. Please, take 15 minutes and carefully read this FAQ:

How exactly does pay-per-valid-share and get-paid-per-valid share work?
https://www.nicehash.com/index.jsp?p=faq#faqg2

I can assure you this is a 100% fair game for sellers and buyers.

If there is a buy order with a pool for extremely low diff and possibly even on a unstable or overloaded pool, you still will be paid for the valid work you provided, because NiceHash validates your work before it is sent to the pool. You can make sure about this if you check your payouts and your statistics.

It is true - sometimes buyers risks and submits order for extremely low diff and possibly even on a unstable or overloaded pool - but this is their risk (I guess they know what they are doing - hint: biggest profitability can be made when you try to "attack" coin with massive hashrate, maybe even try to fork it or take the majority of network hashrate for yourself). However, they will of course still have to pay for the valid work that was provided by providers, even if pool can't "eat" all the work that has been provided (it's just the same risk as having own rigs or rent dedicated rigs for fixed time). But since there are so many benefits for buyers with NiceHash (no contracts, no time boundary, no risk for failed rigs, etc) they prefer to mine on NiceHash instead of renting dedicated rigs.

It is also true that even if we validate all of your work when we're hitting some very low diff coin, it will happen that the reject rate will be a bit higher on providers side (because rigs actually aren't capable to produce all valid work on very low diff) - but here we're talking about reject rates 2-5% instead of normal 1-2%. But this is the exact same reject rate that a provider would have to "swallow" if you would be mining on any other pool or multipool which is hitting high-profitability low-diff coins. All you have to take into account is this: you might see 2-5% higher reject rates at some intervals (again, look at the graphs on our site, not your sgminer) but you'll get paid 25% more than multipools pays. So it's up to you weather you'll go for a bit lower reject rate, or for a significantly better payout ;)

I hope this clarified your concerns at list a bit. Since NiceHash is an innovative approach to selling/buying hashpower I do understand that there are lot's of thing to be clarified. And probably there will be some exceptions where will have to improve the algorithm - therefore your feedback (from sellers and buyers) is highly appreciated!


Title: Re: NiceHash.com - rig owners needed - get paid more than mining on multipool!
Post by: VirosaGITS on April 15, 2014, 10:01:06 AM
I get intermittent streak of excessive reject rate, from a usually high-ish 2% that jump to 30% to even 100% for several minutes every other hour or so.

A system to protect rig owners from bad pools would be nice. I get it buyers want to pay for accepted shares but sellers don't want to lose 10-20% of their hashrate because buyers don,t know what they are doing.

Also a setting to sign up as a vanguard for miners to be switched would be good. Some people have miners that will do okay if they are immediately switched to highest profit order, while some people not.

There is nothing to worry about this. Please, take 15 minutes and carefully read this FAQ:

How exactly does pay-per-valid-share and get-paid-per-valid share work?
https://www.nicehash.com/index.jsp?p=faq#faqg2

I can assure you this is a 100% fair game for sellers and buyers.

If there is a buy order with a pool for extremely low diff and possibly even on a unstable or overloaded pool, you still will be paid for the valid work you provided, because NiceHash validates your work before it is sent to the pool. You can make sure about this if you check your payouts and your statistics.

It is true - sometimes buyers risks and submits order for extremely low diff and possibly even on a unstable or overloaded pool - but this is their risk (I guess they know what they are doing - hint: biggest profitability can be made when you try to "attack" coin with massive hashrate, maybe even try to fork it or take the majority of network hashrate for yourself). However, they will of course still have to pay for the valid work that was provided by providers, even if pool can't "eat" all the work that has been provided (it's just the same risk as having own rigs or rent dedicated rigs for fixed time). But since there are so many benefits for buyers with NiceHash (no contracts, no time boundary, no risk for failed rigs, etc) they prefer to mine on NiceHash instead of renting dedicated rigs.

It is also true that even if we validate all of your work when we're hitting some very low diff coin, it will happen that the reject rate will be a bit higher on providers side (because rigs actually aren't capable to produce all valid work on very low diff) - but here we're talking about reject rates 2-5% instead of normal 1-2%. But this is the exact same reject rate that a provider would have to "swallow" if you would be mining on any other pool or multipool which is hitting high-profitability low-diff coins. All you have to take into account is this: you might see 2-5% higher reject rates at some intervals (again, look at the graphs on our site, not your sgminer) but you'll get paid 25% more than multipools pays. So it's up to you weather you'll go for a bit lower reject rate, or for a significantly better payout ;)

I hope this clarified your concerns at list a bit. Since NiceHash is an innovative approach to selling/buying hashpower I do understand that there are lot's of thing to be clarified. And probably there will be some exceptions where will have to improve the algorithm - therefore your feedback (from sellers and buyers) is highly appreciated!

Sure, but here i'm not talking about 2-5% i'm talking about 8 and 16% overall reject. So i still don't think that part, that i did read previously, is relevant. I've had full rounds with 3%(both rigs) reject then blam it spike up for a whole round. I might be wrong but this tells me its the client that is sucking, if not its my rig config which seem unlikely... Which would leave NiceHash to be the cause. I prefer blaming the client.  Sometimes reject spike to 100% and by looking at random key, i'm not the only one.

You seem to be blaming proper configuration, but don't give any actual information, therefore i would assume that if i get 0.4-1% reject rate on e.g waffle pool, CM, coinfu, etc, then i am properly configured.

Is there special configuration needed for your "pool"?

The 16-20% reject is on cudaminer, there isnt much configuration to be done there, but its not on supported miner so i can just be glad it work at all. But what about my main GPU running on SGminer at 7-9% (r9 290 @900khs 850 average WU, get 790 WU on your pool)?

The only difference from my usual multipool settings is i'm specifying a diff variable (128-256) that has to be same for all my miner.

I could just shrug it off as 10% overall loss of accepted share by pointing at Nicehash is still a 15%~ improvement over the best multipool i,ve found, but it doesnt feel proper.

Thoughts?


Title: Re: NiceHash.com - rig owners needed - get paid more than mining on multipool!
Post by: kenshirothefist on April 15, 2014, 10:19:50 AM
Sure, but here i'm not talking about 2-5% i'm talking about 8 and 16% overall reject. So i still don't think that part, that i did read previously, is relevant. I've had full rounds with 3%(both rigs) reject then blam it spike up for a whole round. I might be wrong but this tells me its the client that is sucking, if not its my rig config which seem unlikely... Which would leave NiceHash to be the cause. I prefer blaming the client.  Sometimes reject spike to 100% and by looking at random key, i'm not the only one.

You seem to be blaming proper configuration, but don't give any actual information, therefore i would assume that if i get 0.4-1% reject rate on e.g waffle pool, CM, coinfu, etc, then i am properly configured.

Sorry, not blaming anyone, just trying to provide fair service for providers & buyers. And yes, it's not perfect yet.

However! We've updated our stale shares detection about 15 minutes ago. Please check the reject rate in the past 10 minutes and let me know if it is any better (also check your graphs stats on NiceHash).

Also, if you're using "--no-submit-stale" option (or ["no-submit-stale" : true] if using conf file) then do not use it anymore. Set ["no-submit-stale" : false] if using conf file or remove "--no-submit-stale" option from your command line. Stale shares shouldn't be submitted since buyers pool won't be able to use them (and you'll get more rejects).


Title: Re: NiceHash.com - rig owners needed - get paid more than mining on multipool!
Post by: VirosaGITS on April 15, 2014, 11:03:43 AM
Sure, but here i'm not talking about 2-5% i'm talking about 8 and 16% overall reject. So i still don't think that part, that i did read previously, is relevant. I've had full rounds with 3%(both rigs) reject then blam it spike up for a whole round. I might be wrong but this tells me its the client that is sucking, if not its my rig config which seem unlikely... Which would leave NiceHash to be the cause. I prefer blaming the client.  Sometimes reject spike to 100% and by looking at random key, i'm not the only one.

You seem to be blaming proper configuration, but don't give any actual information, therefore i would assume that if i get 0.4-1% reject rate on e.g waffle pool, CM, coinfu, etc, then i am properly configured.

Sorry, not blaming anyone, just trying to provide fair service for providers & buyers. And yes, it's not perfect yet.

However! We've updated our stale shares detection about 15 minutes ago. Please check the reject rate in the past 10 minutes and let me know if it is any better (also check your graphs stats on NiceHash).

Also, if you're using "--no-submit-stale" option (or ["no-submit-stale" : true] if using conf file) then do not use it anymore. Set ["no-submit-stale" : false] if using conf file or remove "--no-submit-stale" option from your command line. Stale shares shouldn't be submitted since buyers pool won't be able to use them (and you'll get more rejects).

I wasn't aiming to be aggressive, i just believe this is worth discussing.

Since coincidental(?) update 1 hour ago~ i read less than 2% reject on sg miner with 290 and 0% on 560 ti (cudaminer).

If these holds, then you have yourself a pool-for-hire(TM) with good accept % and good return, till someone come to crash our party, anyways.

-V


Title: Re: NiceHash.com - rig owners needed - get paid more than mining on multipool!
Post by: dogechode on April 15, 2014, 01:20:57 PM
Ok so I am trying it out but I am having trouble getting multiple cards running at the same time. Can you point more than 1 instance of sgminer at the same btc wallet address for this? When I try, the second instance of sgminer crashes. I tried this with multiple cards on different boxes.

It works exactly the same way you would setup multiple GPU for any other multipool.

I figured it out, there was actually a conflict between the information in my batch file and the information in the config file for sgminer - I never ran into this before because I usually use cgminer with all my settings in the batch files, no configs. Up and running on multiple cards now!


Title: Re: NiceHash.com - rig owners needed - get paid more than mining on multipool!
Post by: copyfile on April 15, 2014, 01:47:10 PM
I just tried this pool on my gridseed miners running on a raspberry pi with scripta and cgminer 3.7.2. But i only get rejected shares! What do i do wrong? I pointed them to stratum.nicehash.com:3333 with my bitcoin address as username and a random password.


Title: Re: NiceHash.com - rig owners needed - get paid more than mining on multipool!
Post by: klear on April 15, 2014, 01:52:50 PM
Any chance you'll support Kalroth's miner soon?
http://k-dev.net/cgminer/


Title: Re: NiceHash.com - rig owners needed - get paid more than mining on multipool!
Post by: kenshirothefist on April 15, 2014, 02:33:22 PM
Any chance you'll support Kalroth's miner soon?
http://k-dev.net/cgminer/

Well, unfortunatelly we can't support it since it's based on cgminer 3.7.2 which has the known "extra nonce bug". Kalroth should patch it from the upstream versions.

I know Kalroth did a great job with his cgminer branch (even I helped him with testing some early versions...) and it's quite popular. But on the other hand basically all the important patches he introduced were incorporated into recent sgminer versions. Therefore I really dont see any reasons why you wouldn't switch to sgminer (in fact there are many benefits such as easy kernel switching, nFactor support, bugfixes, etc.). Please take a look at https://nicehash.com/index.jsp?p=faq#faqs8


Title: Re: NiceHash.com - rig owners needed - get paid more than mining on multipool!
Post by: siggy on April 15, 2014, 03:04:18 PM
the "unix" link in the FAQ's for SGMINER points to GitHub..  I can only find source code here...  Is there someplace where a pre-compile unix version is available?

thanks,
Sigg


Title: Re: NiceHash.com - rig owners needed - get paid more than mining on multipool!
Post by: dogechode on April 15, 2014, 06:01:29 PM
The basic concept here is that the highest paying orders get first dibs on our hashing power, which encourages buyers to outbid each other, right? What are they buying the hashes for, just to mine coins rather than buying their own mining equipment? Or do you think they are devs trying to improve their coin's hash rate to gain credibility?


Title: Re: NiceHash.com - rig owners needed - get paid more than mining on multipool!
Post by: hoop on April 15, 2014, 06:17:01 PM
what is minimum payout


Title: Re: NiceHash.com - rig owners needed - get paid more than mining on multipool!
Post by: dogechode on April 15, 2014, 06:20:13 PM
I think they said .002 is the threshold, but double check that. And I believe they said they pay out 4x daily which is a lot compared to most multipools.


Title: Re: NiceHash.com - rig owners needed - get paid more than mining on multipool!
Post by: VirosaGITS on April 15, 2014, 08:43:16 PM
The basic concept here is that the highest paying orders get first dibs on our hashing power, which encourages buyers to outbid each other, right? What are they buying the hashes for, just to mine coins rather than buying their own mining equipment? Or do you think they are devs trying to improve their coin's hash rate to gain credibility?

Yes. Any of the above + exploiting short windows of very profitable coins or any other things one could want extra hashing power for limited time. Try to make money off of it if you want. You're welcome.

I think they said .002 is the threshold, but double check that. And I believe they said they pay out 4x daily which is a lot compared to most multipools.

Exactly. I been getting a payout every 10 hours with like 1MHs.


Title: Re: NiceHash.com - rig owners needed - get paid more than mining on multipool!
Post by: Frosty45 on April 16, 2014, 01:16:22 PM
Why should us miners be penalized for someone choosing a bad pool? Last night I had more reject than accepted shares.  There should be a reject threshold on the order.  If it hits a certain amount of rejected Ghs the miners should be moved to a different order.  Just my 0.02


Title: Re: NiceHash.com - rig owners needed - get paid more than mining on multipool!
Post by: dogechode on April 16, 2014, 01:23:47 PM
I have received several payouts so far, it works fairly well and the threshold does seem to be around 0.002 because I received multiple payments of around 0.002 - 0.003 btc. Make sure you have a backup pool set up in your batch or config in case there is no work available that meets the criteria and you don't want to lose working hours.


Title: Re: NiceHash.com - rig owners needed - get paid more than mining on multipool!
Post by: VirosaGITS on April 17, 2014, 07:22:31 AM
With earlier's upgrade, if it stays like this, i say 5 *, low reject, buyers pouring in.

Be clear bout the fee tho. If you take 2% from buyer AND sellers thats two time 2% fee.


Title: Re: NiceHash.com - rig owners needed - get paid more than mining on multipool!
Post by: kenshirothefist on April 17, 2014, 08:10:50 AM
More providers are needed, currently there are good priced orders!


Title: Re: NiceHash.com - rig owners needed - currently at 0.008+ BTC/MH/day
Post by: Shastada on April 17, 2014, 02:03:53 PM
Question, as a miner do I only get paid at the rate of the job I'm working on or the average of the mining jobs because it seems like with the limited mining now some are working higher profit jobs than others. Seems then that isn't particularly fair as it will be random which job you get. Also if there is a higher paying unlimited job why isn't everyone working that one? It seems some are still working lower profit limited jobs?


Title: Re: NiceHash.com - rig owners needed - currently at 0.008+ BTC/MH/day
Post by: kenshirothefist on April 17, 2014, 02:51:17 PM
Question, as a miner do I only get paid at the rate of the job I'm working on or the average of the mining jobs because it seems like with the limited mining now some are working higher profit jobs than others. Seems then that isn't particularly fair as it will be random which job you get. Also if there is a higher paying unlimited job why isn't everyone working that one? It seems some are still working lower profit limited jobs?

This is explained here  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=562238.msg6261856#msg6261856 in details, please take a look.


Title: Re: NiceHash.com - rig owners needed - currently at 0.008+ BTC/MH/day
Post by: Rosta32 on April 17, 2014, 03:29:18 PM
Looks a like a nice service, so I just hopped on as a provider to try it out.
Is there a way for me, as a provider, to see what orders I worked on?  Or a table with hours spent mining @ a particular price?


Title: Re: NiceHash.com - rig owners needed - !!! currently at 0.009+ BTC/MH/day !!!
Post by: jparsley on April 17, 2014, 05:25:08 PM
Looks nice i'l try to put in some hash


Title: Re: NiceHash.com - rig owners needed - get paid more than mining on multipool!
Post by: kenshirothefist on April 18, 2014, 03:56:08 PM
Currently there are again some good paying orders ;)


Title: Re: NiceHash.com - rig owners needed - get paid more than mining on multipool!
Post by: kenshirothefist on April 18, 2014, 10:25:58 PM
We've broke through 2ghs, join the ride!


Title: Re: NiceHash.com - rig owners needed - get paid more than mining on multipool!
Post by: dloganbill on April 19, 2014, 02:32:22 AM
What is the ideal difficulty setting for 5 chip Gridseed miners?  I seem to have a lot of rejects without specifying.


Title: Re: NiceHash.com - rig owners needed - get paid more than mining on multipool!
Post by: Oldminer on April 19, 2014, 02:36:01 AM
Been renting my miners out for best of the past week and been getting good regular payouts  :)


Title: Re: NiceHash.com - rig owners needed - currently at 0.009+ btc/mh/day
Post by: kenshirothefist on April 19, 2014, 09:49:37 AM
Rig providers - you can now see personal statistics for past 7 days.


Title: Re: NiceHash.com - rig owners needed - currently at 0.009+ btc/mh/day
Post by: MinerP on April 19, 2014, 11:40:33 AM
I have tried to place an order and am confused .5btc at 8.8BTC/GH/Day gets me 0.6094191828907596 hours of mining?? I want to rent 35MH... how can I place an order


Title: Re: NiceHash.com - rig owners needed - get paid more than mining on multipool!
Post by: kenshirothefist on April 19, 2014, 11:53:28 AM
I have tried to place an order and am confused .5btc at 8.8BTC/GH/Day gets me 0.6094191828907596 hours of mining?? I want to rent 35MH... how can I place an order

Please see this FAQ https://nicehash.com/index.jsp?p=faq#faqb0

You have to limit hash power to get a specific speed, otherwise you're buying full speed (currently approximately 2.3 GH/s). Minimum is 100 Mh/s.


Title: Re: NiceHash.com - rig owners needed - currently at 0.009+ btc/mh/day
Post by: henrik_z on April 20, 2014, 01:34:17 AM
Guys just wanted to say this is out-and-out the best combination of altcoin mining ideas out there. Well executed, straightforward and hugely profitable. Scrypt is back!

Serious props!


Title: Re: NiceHash.com - rig owners needed - currently at 0.009+ btc/mh/day
Post by: dloganbill on April 20, 2014, 01:35:14 AM
What's up with the pool? Twice today I've had periods of solid rejects. I've had great success so far. These are gridseed asics running Hashra Controlla. Should I manually set the difficulty?
https://www.nicehash.com/?p=miners&a=0&addr=192wH2yhWVyjiUkzf2qppnATSvmQkuMsxA


Title: Re: NiceHash.com - rig owners needed - get paid more than mining on multipool!
Post by: nicehashdev on April 21, 2014, 01:20:20 AM
No pool pays as much as NiceHash now. 0.02 BTC/MH/Day.


Title: Re: NiceHash.com - rig owners needed - currently at 0.010+ btc/mh/day
Post by: kenshirothefist on April 21, 2014, 09:07:11 AM
More providers are needed! We're constantly at 10+ BTC/GH/Day with peaks reaching 20 BTC/GH/Day!


Title: Re: NiceHash.com - rig owners needed - get paid more than mining on multipool!
Post by: volder on April 27, 2014, 04:33:48 PM
Ok, I'll bite. I have 62Mh that I can point to nicehash. Where can I find the current BTC/Mh/Day payout. Also, can you explain in a bit more detail how to set the price of my rental in the password field? An example would help.


Title: Re: NiceHash.com - rig owners needed - get paid more than mining on multipool!
Post by: wielkizegar on April 27, 2014, 04:39:46 PM
Ok, I'll bite. I have 62Mh that I can point to nicehash. Where can I find the current BTC/Mh/Day payout. Also, can you explain in a bit more detail how to set the price of my rental in the password field? An example would help.
1. http://prntscr.com/3dyzma , simply divide it by 1000 to get price per MH.
2. for example this in .bat
Code:
-p p=6.0
or this in .conf
Code:
"pass" : "p=6.0",
will set the price to 0.006BTC/Mh/day minimum.


Title: Re: NiceHash.com - rig owners needed - get paid more than mining on multipool!
Post by: dogechode on April 27, 2014, 05:34:17 PM
Are people consistently getting over 0.01btc/mh/day when running 24x7 on this or are there significant periods of making less than that and/or no work being available and thus having to switch to backup pools specified in your configs?


Title: Re: NiceHash.com - rig owners needed - get paid more than mining on multipool!
Post by: wielkizegar on April 27, 2014, 05:38:47 PM
Are people consistently getting over 0.01btc/mh/day when running 24x7 on this or are there significant periods of making less than that and/or no work being available and thus having to switch to backup pools specified in your configs?
currently ppl are getting ~0.0052584/MH/day, it depends on bids.


Title: Re: NiceHash.com - rig owners needed - get paid more than mining on multipool!
Post by: dogechode on April 27, 2014, 05:43:30 PM
Are people consistently getting over 0.01btc/mh/day when running 24x7 on this or are there significant periods of making less than that and/or no work being available and thus having to switch to backup pools specified in your configs?
currently ppl are getting ~0.0052584/MH/day, it depends on bids.

Is that based on your own experience or just calculations from the site statistics?


Title: Re: NiceHash.com - rig owners needed - get paid more than mining on multipool!
Post by: kenshirothefist on April 28, 2014, 03:07:06 PM
There are some decent paying Scrypt-A-Nfactor orders ... if you have Scrypt-A-Nfactor you can get some good payouts, check here: https://www.nicehash.com/index.jsp?a=2 and point your miner to stratum+tcp://stratum.nicehash.com:3335


Title: Re: NiceHash.com - rig owners needed - get paid more than mining on multipool!
Post by: dogechode on April 29, 2014, 01:39:01 PM
I have been pointing 2.5 MH at this for several days straight now; I'll post the results later for those who are curious about some hard numbers on what I got paid out daily by mining on here 24x7 for several days in a row.


Title: Re: NiceHash.com - rig owners needed - get paid more than mining on multipool!
Post by: Oldminer on April 29, 2014, 02:15:43 PM
I have been pointing 2.5 MH at this for several days straight now; I'll post the results later for those who are curious about some hard numbers on what I got paid out daily by mining on here 24x7 for several days in a row.

Back off..payments atm are crap. Make 'em pay


Title: Re: NiceHash.com - rig owners needed - get paid more than mining on multipool!
Post by: dogechode on April 29, 2014, 02:40:47 PM
How do I set it up to only work if payments are about X amount again? I currently have my batch files set so they can switch to other pools if nicehash has no work available, so I assume if I set up my nicehash workers to only work above X rate, then if that rate was not available my miners should fail over automatically to the other pools... is that accurate?


Title: Re: NiceHash.com - rig owners needed - get paid more than mining on multipool!
Post by: 33zer0w0lf on April 29, 2014, 10:49:01 PM
How do I set it up to only work if payments are about X amount again? I currently have my batch files set so they can switch to other pools if nicehash has no work available, so I assume if I set up my nicehash workers to only work above X rate, then if that rate was not available my miners should fail over automatically to the other pools... is that accurate?

set your password.. for example i don't' want to send hash to nicehash unless it atleast 5 btc/gh/day  so my config looks like this:

"url" : "stratum+tcp://stratum.nicehash.com:3333",
                "user" : "btc-address here",
                "pass" : "p=5.0"

so if its less that 5.0 my miner switches to the secondary pool i have setup.


Title: Re: NiceHash.com - rig owners needed - get paid more than mining on multipool!
Post by: dogechode on April 29, 2014, 11:40:15 PM
How do I set it up to only work if payments are about X amount again? I currently have my batch files set so they can switch to other pools if nicehash has no work available, so I assume if I set up my nicehash workers to only work above X rate, then if that rate was not available my miners should fail over automatically to the other pools... is that accurate?

set your password.. for example i don't' want to send hash to nicehash unless it atleast 5 btc/gh/day  so my config looks like this:

"url" : "stratum+tcp://stratum.nicehash.com:3333",
                "user" : "btc-address here",
                "pass" : "p=5.0"

so if its less that 5.0 my miner switches to the secondary pool i have setup.

Ok so I just tried that (but using p=7.0) and it seemed like it was working but not very well. It tried to connect to nicehash then switched over to my backup pool (presumably bc current payout on nicehash is way under 7) but then after doing like a few shares on the secondary pool it switched to nicehash. Is it going to constantly toggle back and forth every 30 seconds or so because that seems inefficient as all hell... am I wrong?


Title: Re: NiceHash.com - rig owners needed - get paid more than mining on multipool!
Post by: Trestle on April 30, 2014, 12:32:25 AM
There are some decent paying Scrypt-A-Nfactor orders ... if you have Scrypt-A-Nfactor you can get some good payouts, check here: https://www.nicehash.com/index.jsp?a=2 and point your miner to stratum+tcp://stratum.nicehash.com:3335


 What is the N factor I set? I can't get cudaminer to connect and get accepted shares. I tried --algo=scrypt:11 no go.


Title: Re: NiceHash.com - rig owners needed - get paid more than mining on multipool!
Post by: 33zer0w0lf on May 01, 2014, 12:39:07 AM
How do I set it up to only work if payments are about X amount again? I currently have my batch files set so they can switch to other pools if nicehash has no work available, so I assume if I set up my nicehash workers to only work above X rate, then if that rate was not available my miners should fail over automatically to the other pools... is that accurate?

set your password.. for example i don't' want to send hash to nicehash unless it atleast 5 btc/gh/day  so my config looks like this:

"url" : "stratum+tcp://stratum.nicehash.com:3333",
                "user" : "btc-address here",
                "pass" : "p=5.0"

so if its less that 5.0 my miner switches to the secondary pool i have setup.

Ok so I just tried that (but using p=7.0) and it seemed like it was working but not very well. It tried to connect to nicehash then switched over to my backup pool (presumably bc current payout on nicehash is way under 7) but then after doing like a few shares on the secondary pool it switched to nicehash. Is it going to constantly toggle back and forth every 30 seconds or so because that seems inefficient as all hell... am I wrong?
when mine was set to p=5 and the going rate was going up over 5 then back down it toggled quite a bit, then I changed it to p=6 and am not having any issues.  I use pimp


Title: Re: NiceHash.com - rig owners needed - get paid more than mining on multipool!
Post by: dogechode on May 01, 2014, 03:27:06 AM
Well, I was using p=7 and it was flippflopping like a democrat so I gave up and just pushed my miners to other pools for now. Nicehash seems like a great concept but if it isn't paying more than the main multipools like hashcows, wafflepool, etc then there really isn't much point. And if it is constantly toggling that's just wasting hash power. I can't be bothered to constantly check throughout the day and manually switch it over if the payment rate starts to suck.


Title: Re: NiceHash.com - rig owners needed - get paid more than mining on multipool!
Post by: 33zer0w0lf on May 01, 2014, 03:42:39 AM
Well, I was using p=7 and it was flippflopping like a democrat so I gave up and just pushed my miners to other pools for now. Nicehash seems like a great concept but if it isn't paying more than the main multipools like hashcows, wafflepool, etc then there really isn't much point. And if it is constantly toggling that's just wasting hash power. I can't be bothered to constantly check throughout the day and manually switch it over if the payment rate starts to suck.
yeah I don't blame you, at 7 you should be doing the same or better than most of the multi pools.  Not sure why it is toggeling so much for you works great for me, but I just upgraded my gpu farms to the latest pimp OS, came with the latest miners and configs, works great.


Title: Re: NiceHash.com - rig owners needed - get paid more than mining on multipool!
Post by: dogechode on May 01, 2014, 03:46:52 AM
Okay I have to ask lol - what the heck is Pimp OS? Is it a whole operating system or a mining client like cgminer?


Title: Re: NiceHash.com - rig owners needed - get paid more than mining on multipool!
Post by: 33zer0w0lf on May 01, 2014, 03:54:41 AM
Okay I have to ask lol - what the heck is Pimp OS? Is it a whole operating system or a mining client like cgminer?

lol yeah.. I think its a spin off of BAMT if you ever have heard of it.
http://getpimp.org/


Title: Re: NiceHash.com - rig owners needed - get paid more than mining on multipool!
Post by: kenshirothefist on May 05, 2014, 07:24:44 PM
Important note for all sellers - providers

After extensive internal testing we can finally provide you with our own sgminer and cgminer builds.

As you probably already know, NiceHash is using some advanced stratum protocol features, therefore older mining software is not supported. We have prepared optimized sgminer and cgminer builds for you to get optimum performance when mining with GPUs on NiceHash. Of course, these builds will also work equally optimal on other pools.

Our builds includes patch for seamless order swaping without interupts, the idle bugfix as well as some other minor impovements.

Get the software here: https://nicehash.com/software/

Please, download our sgminer or cgminer binaries and please report if it is working well for you. We will apprechiate any feedback!

On our software download page you will also find links to latest BFGMiner builds with good GridSeed support (BFGminer 3.99.0) - hopefully Hashra and others will include the latest BFGminer in their software builds as soon as possible.

Thank you for using NiceHash!


Title: Re: NiceHash.com - rig owners needed - get paid more than mining on multipool!
Post by: Hatch on May 06, 2014, 09:28:52 PM
Something goofy going on with that build.

I am running sgminer 4.1.271 and decided to give your build a shot since I have been hashing with NiceHash the last day or so. I have a set price point with NiceHash being the first pool in my conf file with CoinFu the first failover (as of this morning), followed by Wafflepool, and Clevermining.

For some reason, using the same conf file in the same c:\SGMiner directory, this executable completely skips CoinFu and goes directly to Wafflepool. If I remove all other pools except CoinFu, it just sits at the "awaiting active pool" prompt.

Y'all got something against the CoinFu folks or something?

 


Title: Re: NiceHash.com - rig owners needed - get paid more than mining on multipool!
Post by: PeaMine on May 07, 2014, 06:25:02 PM
Any plans to add x11?
To me it should be a popular algo for all the GPU owners during summer.


Title: Re: NiceHash.com - rig owners needed - get paid more than mining on multipool!
Post by: isaax on May 08, 2014, 02:32:14 AM
Something goofy going on with that build.

I am running sgminer 4.1.271 and decided to give your build a shot since I have been hashing with NiceHash the last day or so. I have a set price point with NiceHash being the first pool in my conf file with CoinFu the first failover (as of this morning), followed by Wafflepool, and Clevermining.

For some reason, using the same conf file in the same c:\SGMiner directory, this executable completely skips CoinFu and goes directly to Wafflepool. If I remove all other pools except CoinFu, it just sits at the "awaiting active pool" prompt.

Y'all got something against the CoinFu folks or something?

 

I have this same issue as well. I can't even manually switch to CoinFu using NiceHash's sgminer version on Linux. I reverted back to the original sgminer bin and was able to switch to CoinFu just fine. What gives?


Title: Re: NiceHash.com - rig owners needed - get paid more than mining on multipool!
Post by: kenshirothefist on May 08, 2014, 08:39:25 AM
Something goofy going on with that build.

I am running sgminer 4.1.271 and decided to give your build a shot since I have been hashing with NiceHash the last day or so. I have a set price point with NiceHash being the first pool in my conf file with CoinFu the first failover (as of this morning), followed by Wafflepool, and Clevermining.

For some reason, using the same conf file in the same c:\SGMiner directory, this executable completely skips CoinFu and goes directly to Wafflepool. If I remove all other pools except CoinFu, it just sits at the "awaiting active pool" prompt.

Y'all got something against the CoinFu folks or something?

 

I have this same issue as well. I can't even manually switch to CoinFu using NiceHash's sgminer version on Linux. I reverted back to the original sgminer bin and was able to switch to CoinFu just fine. What gives?

We'll take a look. Obviously CoinFu rejects our stratum protocol extension, I'm sure we'll be able to fix this. Thanks for feedback.


Title: Re: NiceHash.com - rig owners needed - get paid more than mining on multipool!
Post by: kenshirothefist on May 08, 2014, 08:53:42 AM
Something goofy going on with that build.

I am running sgminer 4.1.271 and decided to give your build a shot since I have been hashing with NiceHash the last day or so. I have a set price point with NiceHash being the first pool in my conf file with CoinFu the first failover (as of this morning), followed by Wafflepool, and Clevermining.

For some reason, using the same conf file in the same c:\SGMiner directory, this executable completely skips CoinFu and goes directly to Wafflepool. If I remove all other pools except CoinFu, it just sits at the "awaiting active pool" prompt.

Y'all got something against the CoinFu folks or something?

 

I have this same issue as well. I can't even manually switch to CoinFu using NiceHash's sgminer version on Linux. I reverted back to the original sgminer bin and was able to switch to CoinFu just fine. What gives?

We'll take a look. Obviously CoinFu rejects our stratum protocol extension, I'm sure we'll be able to fix this. Thanks for feedback.

Update: you can solve this easily with pool config.

Just add "no-extranonce-subscribe" : true to the CoinFu pool config

Code:
        {
                "name" : "NiceHash Scrypt",
                "url" : "stratum+tcp://stratum.nicehash.com:3333",
                "user" : "btc_address",
                "pass" : "x",
                "algorithm" : "scrypt",
                "nfactor" : "10"
        },
{
                "name" : "CoinFu",
                "url" : "stratum+tcp://pool.coinfu.io:3333",
                "no-extranonce-subscribe" : true,
                "user" : "myrig_btc_address",
                "pass" : "myemail",
                "algorithm" : "scrypt",
                "nfactor" : "10"
}

Please try and report if it works OK.

BTW: yesterday we released newer builds with some minor bugfixes: https://www.nicehash.com/software/


Title: Re: NiceHash.com - rig owners needed - get paid more than mining on multipool!
Post by: JHammer on May 08, 2014, 11:20:38 PM
Confused on what to set my price at..

So if I have 30 MH's I want to point to NiceHash, how do I determine what I set my p= to???

Can I see a list of orders to see what the offers are?


And since I have MH's will it be something like p=0.004    Meaning I want a least 0.004 BTC per MH per day?



Title: Re: NiceHash.com - rig owners needed - get paid more than mining on multipool!
Post by: 33zer0w0lf on May 08, 2014, 11:28:49 PM
Confused on what to set my price at..

So if I have 30 MH's I want to point to NiceHash, how do I determine what I set my p= to???

Can I see a list of orders to see what the offers are?


And since I have MH's will it be something like p=0.004    Meaning I want a least 0.004 BTC per MH per day?


p=4 means if the price they are selling at, which is listed at the top of the page, drops below 4 it will roll over to your other pool.


Title: Re: NiceHash.com - rig owners needed - get paid more than mining on multipool!
Post by: kenshirothefist on May 13, 2014, 07:35:56 AM
We've added X11 algorithm. There are already some orders in place so you can start earning money with your X11 rigs asap, just point your miner to stratum+tcp://stratum.nicehash.com:3336. The widely used sph-miner is supported. We will also provide you with optimized patched sph-miner for idlebug fix and extranonce patch. Stay tuned.


Title: Re: NiceHash.com - rig owners needed - get paid more than mining on multipool!
Post by: kenshirothefist on May 14, 2014, 10:54:46 AM
Good news! We've released patched and optimized versions of sph-miner for X11. You can download it here:

https://www.nicehash.com/software/#sph-miner


Title: Re: NiceHash.com - rig owners needed - get paid more than mining on multipool!
Post by: kenshirothefist on May 15, 2014, 09:21:18 AM
BTW: if you're a fan of reddit, you're welcome on our subreddit: http://www.reddit.com/r/NiceHash/


Title: Re: NiceHash.com - rig owners needed - get paid more than mining on multipool!
Post by: claygraffix on May 15, 2014, 06:11:13 PM
Giving this a shot, thanks, looks like a great service.


Title: Re: NiceHash.com - get paid more than mining on multipool - Scrypt/N/X11 supported!
Post by: hiddensphinx on May 19, 2014, 10:23:47 AM
I am using the sph-sgminer supplied by NiceHash and have noticed lots of "Pool requested work restarts"...i don't have this problem mining at other X11 pools with my 280x

anyone else getting same issues with NiceHash?


Title: Re: NiceHash.com - get paid more than mining on multipool - Scrypt/N/X11 supported!
Post by: nicehashdev on May 19, 2014, 11:01:54 AM
I am using the sph-sgminer supplied by NiceHash and have noticed lots of "Pool requested work restarts"...i don't have this problem mining at other X11 pools with my 280x

anyone else getting same issues with NiceHash?

Completely normal when work/job is changed.


Title: Re: NiceHash.com - get paid more than mining on multipool - Scrypt/N/X11 supported!
Post by: hiddensphinx on May 19, 2014, 12:48:52 PM
Ok, but surely it should not take more than 30 minutes to change jobs?

I get "Pool requested work restarts" over and over again sometimes lasting for many minutes before getting an accepted share


Title: Re: NiceHash.com - get paid more than mining on multipool - Scrypt/N/X11 supported!
Post by: kenshirothefist on May 20, 2014, 01:47:05 PM
I get "Pool requested work restarts" over and over again sometimes lasting for many minutes before getting an accepted share

And is it still worth it for you to use this even with all the "missed work due incessant restarts"?

Try to adjust difficulty to a lower value, see https://nicehash.com/index.jsp?p=faq#faqs7


Title: Re: NiceHash.com - get paid more than mining on multipool - Scrypt/N/X11 supported!
Post by: Amph on May 22, 2014, 05:34:45 PM
how much is the payment per MH now?


Title: Re: NiceHash.com - get paid more than mining on multipool - Scrypt/N/X11/X13/SHA3
Post by: kenshirothefist on June 03, 2014, 05:55:01 AM
Some good news here:
1.) X13 and Keccak (SHA3) algorithms have been added.
2.) Builds of the brand new sgminer-5 are available: https://nicehash.com/software/#sgminer (more info here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=632503.0); you can use this sgminer for all algorithms, supported by NiceHash (except SHA256, of course).

Thanks for using NiceHash!


Title: Re: NiceHash.com - get paid more than mining on multipool - Scrypt/N/X11/X13/SHA3
Post by: DareC on June 05, 2014, 06:48:32 AM
Does NiceHash support payout to P2SH bitcoin addresses? They start with a 3 instead of a 1, so a lot of sites reject them as invalid.


Title: Re: NiceHash.com - get paid more than mining on multipool - Scrypt/N/X11/X13/SHA3
Post by: kenshirothefist on June 15, 2014, 05:02:19 PM
Today we introduced another advanced feature for GPU miners - Fine tuning with custom speed factors and daily costs. You can now set custom hashing rate factors and even your electricity power consumption as well! This will make sure your miner mines on absolutely most profitable algorithm. You can also configure your miner, for example, to only switch between X11 and X13 (whichever is more profitable) even if globally some other algorithm is more profitable. Visit https://www.nicehash.com/multialgo/#finetuning and play around ;) I'm sure this is one very nice tool for GPU users to play with!


Title: Re: NiceHash.com - get paid more than mining on multipool - Scrypt/N/X11/X13/SHA3
Post by: CoinMan87 on July 09, 2015, 12:44:02 AM
What is the payout looking like for this site now? I plan on building a rig with a couple R9 290 GPUs.


Title: Re: NiceHash.com - get paid more than mining on multipool - Scrypt/N/X11/X13/SHA3
Post by: MysteryX on July 09, 2015, 01:05:18 AM
My last 2 payouts are still stuck on unconfirmed / 0 confirms, something wrong?


Title: Re: NiceHash.com - get paid more than mining on multipool - Scrypt/N/X11/X13/SHA3
Post by: pornluver on March 18, 2017, 11:11:28 AM
Can anyone confirm that nicehash does pay more than multipool?

I have a hard time seeing this.

First someone need to order something (I plan to buy from nicehash and sell to multiple actually). Then multipool took 3% from buyers and sellers. And then they still pay more than multipool?

Can anyone confirm?

I noticed that if I compare price from nicehash to multipool it's about the same for most algorithm

Moreover, nicehash is much easier to use I must admit.

However, I am earning $2 at nicehash while whattomine.com says I should be mining $2.5 per day with 480 RX


Title: Re: NiceHash.com - get paid more than mining on multipool - Scrypt/N/X11/X13/SHA3
Post by: pornluver on March 18, 2017, 01:41:20 PM
Can anyone confirm? I mean i like nicehash better than multipool. Easy to use. So if diffeence is not high then why bother.

The thing is I plan to buy from nicehash and sell to multipool. I can't do that if nicehash already pay seller higher than multipool.

Currently I use a miner to mine ethereum straight. The result is 23.7Mh/s.  That is around $2.06 per day.

Let's see if I do it with nicehash.

Besides nicehash anything else? GUI where I can see dollar per day quickly?

Update:

Nicehash pick dagger hashimoto and claim that I am making 1.96 per day. So around 5% less juice.

There is no option to hash nthash at nicehash!!!!

Even though my card definitely can do nthash. Hmm.... Something is wrong here.
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Title: Re: NiceHash.com - get paid more than mining on multipool - Scrypt/N/X11/X13/SHA3
Post by: pornluver on April 10, 2017, 05:45:37 PM
Can anyone confirm? I mean i like nicehash better than multipool. Easy to use. So if diffeence is not high then why bother.

The thing is I plan to buy from nicehash and sell to multipool. I can't do that if nicehash already pay seller higher than multipool.

Currently I use a miner to mine ethereum straight. The result is 23.7Mh/s.  That is around $2.06 per day.

Let's see if I do it with nicehash.

Besides nicehash anything else? GUI where I can see dollar per day quickly?

Update:

Nicehash pick dagger hashimoto and claim that I am making 1.96 per day. So around 5% less juice.

There is no option to hash nthash at nicehash!!!!

Even though my card definitely can do nthash. Hmm.... Something is wrong here.
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Dagger Hashimoto is nthash.

Nicehash pay a bit less than mining on other pools straight. But they switch algo giving you a bit of extra juice.

That being said, is this even true?

I am using multipoolminer now mainly