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Information on the Cryptolator - Unchained Series:
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The first series, in Fine Silver, is available right now. This series comes in an air-tight capsule in a leatherette box with a certificate of authenticity.

A maximum of 140 one troy ounce Fine Silver .999 coins will be minted for the first series. This series' denomination is 1 Bitcoin. The size of the coin is 39mm. Each Fine Silver coin will have a gold hologram stating "original" if purchase with multi-signature feature or a non applied silver hologram stating "personal" if you chose to go the DIY way.

All coins have their own serial number, which is engraved on the coin itself. Numbers start at 001 and end at 120.

Each coins will be delivered empty. They can be either funded by us (You provide us the Bitcoin to a given address and we fund it once it has been delivered) or by the customer itself.

Our online tool (https://dashboard.cryptolator.com) can easily tell you if a coin is either empty, partially funded, funded or over funded.

20 Coins have been made without a serial number and four of them will be released for auction on eBay. They will be called (Red, Green, Blue and Yellow). Another will be randomly given to someone who likes and shares Cryptolator's official Facebook page. The 15 others will be for supporters and relatives who believed in this project from the start.

Another series, in shiny brass this time, will be released in the near future. That series will come in an air-tite capsule and will be, of course, a lot cheaper than the Silver series. The denomination on this series is aimed to be 0.1 Bitcoin. You'll have the choice to have it pre-built, with certificate, or in a DIY, without a certificate.

A maximum of 500 brass coins will be minted per series. Brass coins will have the hologram stating « Original », if preinstalled with the secret key, or « Personal » if you go with a DIY kit option.

All silver coins come in a leather box, in an air-tite capsule with two certificates, one from the minter and the other from Cryptolator, including the Public Key, Address, series information and serial number.

Each coin is a piece of art in itself, created by talented artists and imagined by us, at Cryptolator.



Information on Cryptolator plans:
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One series will be created, with a new design every year.

The objective is to make at least one other cryptocurrency the first year from a cryptocurrency that really bring something different and significant or that is widely adopted.


The next years could see more cryptocurrencies if we find that it is relevant to add more.

Every coin will represent our own imagined visions of cryptocurrencies in general or of a particular cryptocurrency.


Security:
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Security is crucial to us. That is why we've worked with talented developers to create a great tool that makes Bitcoin multi-signature easy to use.

Using multi-signature solves the problem of having to trust the person or company creating the physical cryptocurrencies. There are two keys to unlock the coin: the one under the hologram and the one you've created on your side. (You can do it on an offline computer to be sure it can't be compromised.)

We will never see your Passphrase (Your key), and you'll see our Coin Secret (Our key) only by removing the temperproof hologram. You will have the option to print a certificate with your Passphrase, Public Key and Coin Address after the order has been placed. If you chose not to print the certificate, be sure to remember your Passphrase or Password as it will be needed to redeem your Bitcoin in the future.

All key rounds (Coin Secret and Firstbit) are created on a dumb printer (No memory).

The computer is disconnected from the internet and a fresh install of OS X is run.

All keys are inserted right away under a hologram on the back of the coin.

I am the only one with access to those keys from start to finish.

A nice tool has been created to facilitate the verification of the validity of a password and address, create passphrase and public key or get all informations about a specific coin. Some part of this tool can also be used offline for more security. You can find the Online Tool here (https://dashboard.cryptolator.com) and the Offline version can be downloaded here: (https://dashboard.cryptolator.com/Cryptolator_Offline_Dashboard.zip)


Goal:
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Cryptolator's goal is to offer high quality, unique pieces of art, limited, collectable coins, with the best security available and at a good price.

We sure hope you'll appreciate this first series as much as we do!

Feel free to comment or ask questions. We will be happy to reply as fast as we can.


Buying process:
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In order to buy, you need to head to (http://www.cryptolator.com) then click on "Buy it now" or on the "Buy" section in the top menu.

You then click on "Add to Cart" and click on the shopping bag.

If you have a coupon, type it in the "Coupon" textbox and click on "Apply Coupon"

Click on "Proceed to Checkout"

Fill the "Billing Details" form.

In the "Your public key" textbox, you need to paste the public key that you'll have created here (https://dashboard.cryptolator.com/#generate) or in the Offline Dashboard (https://dashboard.cryptolator.com/Cryptolator_Offline_Dashboard.zip)

It is really important to keep the Password or Passphrase that you created as it will be required to create your certificate and also required to redeem your Bitcoin in the future.

When everything as been filled correctly, click on "Proceed to Paypal" and make the payment.

In less than 12 working hours you will receive an email from us to create your certificate containing your Public Key and Coin Address (You can either enter your password there or not, if you chose not to, be sure to remember this password in some way because it will be needed to redeem your Bitcoin in the future). This certificate can either be printed on a regular printer or in a PDF using a software like PDF Creator (http://sourceforge.net/projects/pdfcreator/).

In less than 48 working hours, your coin will be shipped.

Bitcoin and Litecoin payment is also accepted (PM me if you want to use this option)


Buying Options:
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As of today (May 24th 2014)


The price for one empty coin in Bitcoin is set at......... 0.15BTC
The price for one funded coin in Bitcoin is set at........ 1.15BTC

The price for one empty coin in Litecoin is set at........ 7.20LTC
The price for one funded coin in Litecoin is set at....... 58.00TC

Shipping price in Bitcoin:
Canada........... 0.02BTC
USA.............. 0.03BTC
EUROPE........... 0.04BTC

Shipping price in Litecoin:
Canada........... 1.00LTC
USA.............. 1.50LTC
EUROPE........... 2.00LTC

As for the coin themselves there is three options:

First: Multisignature. This way, you have your own password or passphrase on your side (Which you can print using a link we will provide you once the coin is created) and there is one password on our side (Which is inserted under the hologram on the coin). This solution come with a gold "Original" hologram pre-installed. This solution is the most secure you can get.

Second: Single-key signatures. This way, you have a password, created by us, under the hologram. This solution come with a gold "Original" hologram. This solution also come with a gold "Original" hologram pre-installed.This solution is also secure, but you have to trust us (We create and print the key round on an offline computer and a dumb printer, also, the hard drive is encrypted and files are securely deleted)

Third: DIY. This way, you receive three silver "Personal" hologram (In case you make a mistake applying it on the coin). You need to create your round key and address rectangle to be inserted under the hologram (You can PM me if you want a little software wrote in Python to create them, or you can create them by yourself). With this option, future buyer will need to trust YOU in order to buy them.




Social Network:
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Facebook:
http://www.facebook.com/cryptolatorinc

Twitter:
http://www.twitter.com/cryptolator


eBay Account:
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http://stores.ebay.com/cryptolator


User Manual V2.0:
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http://cryptolator.com/Cryptolator_User_Manual_V.2.0.pdf


Website:
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http://www.cryptolator.com

Love the design- the people running away from the collapsing bank after discovering Bitcoin. Coin looks great, really wish I had the extra money for all of these physical cryptos. Good luck!

Thanks ! Unfortunately, the winner will be chosen randomly ! :P

Thanks ! :) I'm happy to see peoples like the design !

For the moment I was thinking keeping it for me, but I might change my mind if peoples request it ! :)

that shit's riduculous and i like to buy ridiculous shit but not for that price

Looks nice, I want to buy multiple coins... but... $90 really isn't the best price for a coin...  I guess if it were to prosper, the coin would be worth a lot more.  But it's not, so it shouldn't :/

Why is that ridiculous ? That price is, in my opinion, a fair price, it does cost quite a lot to produce, those are limited series, high quality, serial numbered and in fine silver .999, it got a really good security feature, come in a leatherette box with certificate.

If you look at Royal Canadian Mint for exemple, a coin that is minted at 7500 units sell for 89.95$:
http://www.mint.ca/store/coin/1-oz.-fine-silver-coin-arctic-fox-mintage-7500-2014-prod1920063#.U1wRpF6xCxo

What would be a good price in your opinion ?

Thanks for your comment :P

What price do you think would be a fair price in your opinion ? You need to consider that those coins cost a lot more than the price of silver to produce.

For the moment, it does not seems like the price is too high for some peoples, because I've already got a few orders.

Thanks for your comment ! :)

Very nice! I'm always happy to see new physical crypto! Wish you the best of luck

I can't wait to see the brass ones. I am looking to pick up a few low denomination coins, and this seems promising  ;)

Thanks for the kind words !

I'm looking to get the brass one in production next months, should have them by summer ! :)

I'm thinking about buying one, but $50 international shipping is just a bit over the top IMO!

Yes, I know, it's the minimum price with tracking number, if you have any idea for me, I would be glad to lower the fees ! :)

Is there any other shipping method that doesn't include tracking but is still insured?
£29 adds quite a bit to the total. It adds on just under 50% of the total.
It's really the only thing stopping me from buying it.

PM me your address and I'll see what I can do for you ! :)

PMed. Thanks.

P.S See the last part of my PM. I'd sort that out quite urgently if I were you!

Just ordered two and looking forward to receiving them. I like the design and the price is good for a silver physical coin that has dual factor authentication.

Thanks Pistachio, your two coins are ready, I'll ship them on Monday morning !

Where is the pay via BTC option?!?
I see it is via PM only!

I am thinking of adding a Bitcoin payment method directly on my website, anyone have suggestion ? I was thinking about BitPay.. Does anyone have advice ?

error - There doesn‘t seem to be any available shipping methods. Please double check your address, or contact us if you need any help.

Would you be able to ship me 3 of them, however without the hologram on them? Just give me the hologram sticker and I can fund on my own.

Just like Silver Wallets. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=525756.0 and http://imgur.com/a/6x9N3

If yes, I'd likely take more.

Can you PM me your address, I'll check in my store settings !

I've PM'd you for more information

IMHO, I am not sure if this is a good idea to use the same coin design and hologram for both purposes. None of the other manufactures of physical Bitcoins sell both pre-sealed and DIY coins with the same design and holograms. Maybe a slightly different coin or hologram would be more appropriate.

Yes, that I what I think, my silver coin should always come with the Original hologram pre-installed, and the Brass one will have the choice to have the original hologram preinstalled or the "Personal" hologram for DIY...

I so love the burning banks!  I couldn't think of a better image.  ;D

Shared on Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/DobZombie (https://www.facebook.com/DobZombie)

I hope you guys understand why this coin cost what it does.  People don't realise how much it cost to get a coin designed and a die made.  At least $1700 for a 3D image like this one. Plus it can be more if the artist charges quite a bit.

I'd love to get one of these to display in the Museum. 

Good luck to your coin buddy!

PM me your info, I'll ship you one for free for your museum ! :)

Any chance to buy an "empty" coin?

Edit: didn't read about it not being a good idea :P guess i'll have to wait for a DIY version ;)

The coins are "empty" de-facto. They use multi-signature security.

Security is crucial to us. That is why we've worked with talented developers to create a great tool that makes Bitcoin multi-signature easy to use.

Using multi-signature solves the problem of having to trust the person or company creating the physical cryptocurrencies. There are two keys to unlock the coin: the one under the hologram and the one you've created on your side. (You can do it on an offline computer to be sure it can't be compromised.)

We will never see your Passphrase (Your key), and you'll see our Coin Secret (Our key) only by removing the temperproof hologram. You will have the option to print a certificate with your Passphrase, Public Key and Coin Address after the order has been placed.

Thanks for your interest ! :)

I just realized something...

If I send the coin with my hologram and the customers remove it and put it's own hologram, it would be the same as sending the coin without hologram at all...

So I guess, I can do it then !

I would send them with my "Personal" hologram, instead of the "Original" one...

Is the DIY version cheaper?
Also just request it by putting a note into the order form?

Thanks

Same price (You can still use coupons, there is still one 15% left)
In the order form, in the Public Key field, you type DIY.

Thanks for your interest !

Don't forget to Like our Facebook page at:

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Like our page and share the following post to enter in the contest for winning a Free Cryptolator Physical Cryptocurrencies - Unchained - .999 Fine Silver coin!
Contest end on May 15th 2014

https://i.imgur.com/cSlmscR.png

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Good luck! :)

Do you guys have any comment, questions, concern or anything constructive to say about this project ?

I would like to have your feedback  !  :)

From a collectible standpoint, I would love to have one of these slabbed and graded. I don't know what CCCS would charge or maybe another Canadian coin grading service; but I would be interested in paying extra to have one graded. I will probably just ship one off to ANACS, but it would be nice to have it graded locally.

That would be hard to do since, due to the way multi signature work, I am making the coin after the coin has been ordered, I think the best way, unfortunately, would be to get it graded after you received it and then fill the coin with one Bitcoin.

Modification on April 29th 2014:
A maximum of 140 one troy ounce Fine Silver .999 coins will be minted for the first series. This series' denomination is 1 Bitcoin. The size of the coin is 39mm. Each Fine Silver coin will have a gold hologram stating "original" if purchase with multi-signature feature or a non applied silver hologram stating "personal" if you chose to go the DIY way.

All coins have their own serial number, which is engraved on the coin itself. Numbers start at 001 and end at 120.

I think that will make some peoples happy. This series will be extremely limited, once they are all gone, no more will be created.
As of today, there is 105/140 coins left.

I'm offering a 20$ rebate for the next 48 hours only for bitcointalk users ! PM me to get your personal Coupon Code.

Thanks to everybody that bought a coin, we are down to 95/140 !

Keep passing the word around !

Anybody have idea about where I could advertise my coins beside bitcointalk and Facebook ? ;)

There's ecointalk.net, cryptocointalk.com, and maybe litecointalk.org. You could advertise with bitcoincharts.com or some other major sites/exchanges. Then there is always ebay to reach a lot of non-forum users.

I know there's not much you can do...
But, if you can find a way to get them shipped internationally for a considerably cheaper amount then it'd increase interest.
You could try and find some distributors in different countries/continents which would make shipping cheaper. Of course they'd have to be trustworthy too... They could be the official distributor in each continent, saving you hassle and boosting sales.

It was $20 to the USA with what looks to be about a 5 day service. What are others seeing for shipping? There are other costs that are not being passed on like CC fees. For example, Titanbtc charges another $20 just for paying with paypal and their silver coin is a good $100 more.

Edit: I'll add that I just placed another order and I'd be happy to re-ship any other orders within the USA for free (if Cryptolator agrees to such things). You could probably fit one of these in a small priority mail box that runs $5.45 with tracking and $50 insurance. We would need to verify the size for shipping but it's easily enough to send me a PDF of a prepaid label with your address shipping from my zip.

I could send it without tracking to Europe for 20$. I'm just a bit scared to do so, but if you PM me, I can surely arrange something that will make you happy ! :)
That's a good idea for distributors, if anyone is interested, I can probably make a good bulk price !

Thanks for your comment !

I have no problem with people reselling them, off course, if multi signature has been use, you'll need to provide your password with it ! :)

As for the shipping, currently it is 39.95$ for Europe (Because I prefer having a tracking and faster delivery). Off course if the customer buy more than one, it's the same shipping (Up to 4 per package) so I think it is not that abusive. Anyway, I'm always open to suggestion and case to case adjustment. :P

I just made modification to shipping prices and to the coins prices themselves.

Shipping to Europe = 24.99$
Shipping to USA = 14.99$
Shipping to Canada = 9.99$

The coin itself has been dropped from 89.95$ to 79.99$

I hope everybody will be happy with those modifications ! :)

If you are happy with the service you had and with the product itself, feel free to give me a Trust Feedback, I'll do the same.

If you have time and are willing to do it, you can also post pictures or an unboxing video, either in this thread or in a new thread ! :)

Here are a few pictures of a Cryptolator coin in the wild. It is a beautiful coin.

http://s29.postimg.org/rptdljuz7/IMG_6794.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/rptdljuz7/) http://s29.postimg.org/7txe60dxv/IMG_6795.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/7txe60dxv/) http://s29.postimg.org/60pw3y3df/IMG_6796.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/60pw3y3df/)

http://s29.postimg.org/8tj3nz3pv/IMG_6797.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/8tj3nz3pv/) http://s29.postimg.org/567xvnkwj/IMG_6798.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/567xvnkwj/) http://s29.postimg.org/omsni6g0j/IMG_6799.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/omsni6g0j/)

http://s29.postimg.org/lq5mhwa6r/IMG_6800.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/lq5mhwa6r/) http://s29.postimg.org/we9dgqk5v/IMG_6801.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/we9dgqk5v/) http://s29.postimg.org/9tdzxf89f/IMG_6802.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/9tdzxf89f/)

Thanks Pistachio ! Glad you like them ! :)

Just received mine today, looks beautiful!  Couldn't have asked for more.  The shipping was quicker than expected as well, took about 3 days of the estimated 6 (Arizona, USA).

Nice ! :)

Already at 85/140 left, be fast, there will be no more created for the silver series !

Did the royal canadian mint make these? Or which private mint did you use?

Do you think PCGS or NGC would grade these, or only ANACS? I'm interested in pre-graded coins too.

They have been minted at Northwest Territorial Mint, not sure if PCGS or NGC would grade them, but ANACS would certainly.

If you want to buy them you can directly with Paypal (Credit Card) on the website: http://www.cryptolator.com (http://www.cryptolator.com) or PM for any other payment method.

I am now accepting a lot of alt coin, just PM me and I'll tell you how much it would cost depending of the coins... here is the list:

365Coin
AsiaCoin
AuroraCoin
BlackCoin
Bitcoin
Bitcoinscrypt
CageCoin
CaiShen
CinniCoin
CommunityCoin
ContinuumCoin
DigiByte
Dogecoin
DopeCoin
DarkCoin
ECCoin
Einsteinium
EmotiCoin
Faircoin
FlutterCoin
GroestlCoin
GrumpyCoin
Hirocoin
Heavycoin
Innovationcoin
Karmacoin
KlondikeCoin
Litecoin
Mintcoin
microCoin
Marscoin
Myriadcoin
MazaCoin
Coin2.0
NobleCoin
OlympicCoin
PandaCoin (PANDA)
Penguincoin
Polcoin
PandaCoin (PND)
PopulaceCoin
Potcoin
QubitCoin
RabbitCoin
Riecoin
SaturnCoin
Spaincoin
SUNcoin
TAKcoin
TeslaCoin
TopCoin
Unobtanium
Unitary Status Dollar eCoin
UltraCoin
WhiteCoin
ZedCoin
Zeitcoin
Zetacoin

I must say these look even better than I expected!! The finish of the coin is superb  ;D

Just bought one using an alt coin.
Thanks!
Looking forward to receiving it  :)

Haaaa, thanks !! I'm happy you like them ! I've put so much effort on making them as perfect as they can be, it's great to see people appreciate the quality ! :)

Will be shipped tomorrow morning ! :)

Only 85 of 140 left ! Grab them fast, those are the only one of this series that will ever exist !

I accept most crypto coins, just PM me and I'll give you all the information you need ! :)

81/140 left !

http://www.cryptolator.com (http://www.cryptolator.com)

79/140 left !

http://www.cryptolator.com (http://www.cryptolator.com)

For 48h only, only for BitcoinTalk users, use this coupon on http://www.cryptolator.com to get 25% on one "One Troy Ounce .999 Fine Silver - Cryptolator - Unchained" Only 3 coupons available !

CouponCode: "BCT25"

One coupon left !
77/140 coins left !

We've made some changes to the way you can order coins.

There is three different solutions:

First: Multisignature. This way, you have your own password or passphrase on your side (Which you can print using a link we will provide you once the coin is created) and there is one password on our side (Which is inserted under the hologram on the coin). This solution come with a gold "Original" hologram. This solution is the most secure you can get.

Second: Single-key signatures. This way, you have a password, created by us, under the hologram. This solution come with a gold "Original" hologram. This solution also come with a gold "Original" hologram.This solution is also secure, but you have to trust us (We create and print the key round on an offline computer and a dumb printer, also, the hard drive is encrypted and files are securely deleted)

Third: DIY. This way, you receive three silver "Personal" hologram (In case you make a mistake applying it on the coin). You need to create your round key and address rectangle to be inserted under the hologram (You can PM me if you want a little software wrote in Python to create them, or you can create them by yourself). With this option, future buyer will need to trust YOU in order to buy them.

We are now accepting a lot of alt-coins, just PM me to get a quote.

As of today (May 17th 2014)
The price for one empty coin in Bitcoin is set at 0.179BTC + SHIPPING (Canada 0.023BTC, USA 0.034BTC, EUROPE 0.055BTC)
The price for one funded coin in Bitcoin is set at 1.179BTC + SHIPPING (Canada 0.023BTC, USA 0.034BTC, EUROPE 0.055BTC)

The price for one empty coin in Litecoin is set at 7.82LTC + SHIPPING (Canada 1LTC, USA 1.5LTC, EUROPE 2.5LTC)
The price for one funded coin in Litecoin is set at 51LTC + SHIPPING (Canada 1LTC, USA 1.5LTC, EUROPE 2.5LTC)

PM me for any question or to get the procedure to buy via crypto currencies.

Still 12 hours left, only for BitcoinTalk users, to use this coupon on http://www.cryptolator.com to get 25% on one "One Troy Ounce .999 Fine Silver - Cryptolator - Unchained"

Only 1 coupons left !

CouponCode: "BCT25"

If you have any questions, concern or suggestion, please feel free to post ! :)

Not yet, on May 15th :)

For those who didn't do it yet, get a chance to win a free Cryptolator - Unchained - 1 Troy Once Fine Silver .999 Coins by sharing this post:
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1428281034092214&set=a.1428281077425543.1073741828.1399598893627095&type=1&theater&notif_t=like (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1428281034092214&set=a.1428281077425543.1073741828.1399598893627095&type=1&theater&notif_t=like)

(Don't forget to post "Shared" in the comment to be added to the list !)

Good luck ! :)

Just received mine about 5 minutes ago.
Got to say that it's unbelievable! Definitely the nicest physical coin I've seen so far. Comes in a nice little box with a COA.
Thank you :)

P.S I like the business card too! Where did you have them made?

We are now accepting a lot of alt-coins, just PM me to get a quote.

As of today (May 13th 2014)
The price for one empty coin in Bitcoin is set at 0.162BTC + SHIPPING (Canada 0.0233BTC, USA 0.0343BTC, EUROPE 0.0553BTC)
The price for one funded coin in Bitcoin is set at 1.162BTC + SHIPPING (Canada 0.0233BTC, USA 0.0343BTC, EUROPE 0.0553BTC)

The price for one empty coin in Litecoin is set at 6.9LTC + SHIPPING (Canada 1.2LTC, USA 1.52LTC, EUROPE 2.52LTC)
The price for one funded coin in Litecoin is set at 49.9LTC + SHIPPING (Canada 1.2LTC, USA 1.52LTC, EUROPE 2.52LTC)

PM me for any question or to get the procedure to buy via crypto currencies.

Almost half way through the series.

Remember, only 140 have been made and no more will be created for this Silver Series.

Those coins will probably worth a lot more when they'll be gone.

Look at Lealana for exemple, the price are now really high compare to the original retail price:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/2013-ANACS-MS-68-Lealana-999-Silver-LTC-Litecoin-Coin-Like-Casascius-Bitcoin-BTC-/181405037083?pt=US_World_Coins&hash=item2a3c95321b (http://www.ebay.com/itm/2013-ANACS-MS-68-Lealana-999-Silver-LTC-Litecoin-Coin-Like-Casascius-Bitcoin-BTC-/181405037083?pt=US_World_Coins&hash=item2a3c95321b)

Or look at the original 2011 Casascius coins:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/2011-ANACS-MS-65-Casascius-1-BTC-Collector-Token-GEM-BU-Physical-Coin-/191069498886?pt=US_World_Coins&hash=item2c7ca12e06 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/2011-ANACS-MS-65-Casascius-1-BTC-Collector-Token-GEM-BU-Physical-Coin-/191069498886?pt=US_World_Coins&hash=item2c7ca12e06)

Look at it as an investment, pretty sure you won't regret.

Anyway, that's the way I see it, and you can do whatever you want :P

If you received my coins and are happy with it, I would appreciate if you can give me a trust feedback, I'll do the same for you !

If you have time and are willing to do it, it would be great if you posted pictures of your coin ! :)

I was looking at the order page on your site, and saw a mandatory field to enter a public key. Forgive me if I'm just overlooking the explanation, but how will you use a public key in relation to my order? I see your three "solutions", but still don't quite get which solution(s) I would give you the public key for (I was leaning towards the DIY option). Seems like the initial post description of order options vs. the data collected on the site don't appear to be the same. Thanks!

Yes, you are right ! I will correct this right now, thanks for pointing out !

In fact, in the mandatory public key field, you can either paste a Public Key for the multisig option, write "Single Signature" for the single signature option or write DIY for the DIY options.

I will make it clear in the order form.

Thanks again ! :)

Trust added :) - will post some pics soon.

Thanks ! Trust added for you too ! :)

I made the modification on the website, I think it is now really clear, tell me what you think !

Thanks again ! :)

If you are in the USA and wanna save on shipping price, you can buy on eBay via my official reseller: cflow01

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_trksid=p2050601.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.Xcryptolator&_nkw=cryptolator&_sacat=0&_from=R40 (http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_trksid=p2050601.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.Xcryptolator&_nkw=cryptolator&_sacat=0&_from=R40)

Yep, much better, IMO.

I  just shared on FB. hope I'm not too late.

Ok.. .so I do have a questions, when I saw the product I assumed it was going to be a coin that had a viewable address with 1 BTC in it. Then a protected private key under the hologram which would be destroyed on removal.

So, basically, while the hologram is affixed it would have 1 BTC (or I guess more if people send more) but basically you could just look at the address on the blockchain to see the balance. This would allow for trading the coin on the market and the value would be tied to the BTC value. This is what I thought when you said "backed by crypto currency".

I assumed this is how it worked because it has the 1 BITCOIN denominated on it.

Ok... so I guess there are no question yet. ;)

Does the coin come with the Address printed on the outside of it?

Is the private key under the hologram?

Does removing the hologram to get at the private key destroy it in such a way that it can be re-applied?

What is the security of the hologram wrt duplication? For example, if someone offered to sell me the coin, I could see the hologram was affixed and view the address balance and be 100% sure the private key had not been viewed by a scamming seller.

I can tell if it is single-key or multi-key based on the address starting with a 1 or a 3 right?

thanks. Very nice looking coin BTW, I think $80 is reasonable given the current price of silver.

Also, would like to see the Brass coins with LTC perhaps rather than BTC.

You are not too late, still 4 hours to go ! :)

I made the choice to sell them empty for a two reasons, firstly, Casascius and Lealana had to shut down their activity due to regulatory problems and I wanted to avoid that. Second, was that I was afraid of chargebacks, it would have been a lot of trouble if someone request a chargeback on a around 500$ coins and I couldn't afford that. So I made a two options, either they come empty or I can fill them as soon as the coin get in hand of the customer (Of course the customer need to provide it's own Bitcoin).

As for the coin themselves there is three options:

First: Multisignature. This way, you have your own password or passphrase on your side (Which you can print using a link we will provide you once the coin is created) and there is one password on our side (Which is inserted under the hologram on the coin). This solution come with a gold "Original" hologram pre-installed. This solution is the most secure you can get.

Second: Single-key signatures. This way, you have a password, created by us, under the hologram. This solution come with a gold "Original" hologram. This solution also come with a gold "Original" hologram pre-installed.This solution is also secure, but you have to trust us (We create and print the key round on an offline computer and a dumb printer, also, the hard drive is encrypted and files are securely deleted)

Third: DIY. This way, you receive three silver "Personal" hologram (In case you make a mistake applying it on the coin). You need to create your round key and address rectangle to be inserted under the hologram (You can PM me if you want a little software wrote in Python to create them, or you can create them by yourself). With this option, future buyer will need to trust YOU in order to buy them.

All the hologram are tamperproof so, as soon as they are removed, there is a honeycomb pattern that shows that the hologram has been removed, you can't put it back because you will clearly see the honeycomb. So it is a one use hologram. In the case you redeem your coin and would like to fill it again, you would need to send it back here and we would make a new address and key. They all come with their own address, the first 8 char is visible on the coin itself (Through a window on the hologram) and a certificate come with the coin giving you the complete address. In the case you lose this certificate, no worrie, you can search on cryptolator.com with the 8 char and it will give you the full information of the coin itself.

Multisignature address begin with "3" and Single Key address begin with "1".

The private key is under the hologram. For the Multisignature, you need your own key and the key under the hologram to redeem. For the Single-key, you only need the key under the hologram to redeem. The personal one comes with three hologram, that are different from the "Original" one, you need to create your own key and address and apply the hologram yourself.

There will be a Litecoin version with a completely new design, only if I sell this batch fast and think it would worth it. There would be a silver version and a brass version for this one too.

This project took a lot of my time in the last months and I am adjusting to make peoples as happy as possible and I would certainly like to continue this project as long as possible, making a new design every years with a limited silver version and a less limited and lower denomination brass version ! :)

I hope this answer all you questions, if it doesn't, feel free to ask some more ! :P

Thanks for your interest !

It's just a shame you put 1 Bitcoin on it. Cause it really isn't. But, I understand where you are coming from, although if you only accepted BTC I how would there be charge backs?

You could actually just sell Silver Eagles and stick your Hologram on them and it would be the same other than the design and rarity, which is nice.

I assume when the web site says you "password" is on the hologram, this is a private key that goes with the address? It isn't a password to your web site that is needed to get the private key? So, if you go away the BTC can still be accessed?

You have to charge tax even when shipping out of Canada? You are in Canada?

Thanks for your answers. I guess there's not more coupons?

If you go with option 2, is the private key ONLY on the hologram (you say it is deleted from your machine after generated)? It isn't on the certificate that comes with the coin?

Sort of like a Silver (paper) wallet?

There were no taxes when shipped to USA. The multi-signature can be done offline and does not need their website to work. You can verify your half of the key and there would be no reason for the manufacture to lie about including the other half under the hologram. It would do them no good to keep half of the key.

I don't know why people would choose the private key. The multi-sig is way more secure and trust is no longer an issue. Either use multi-sig or DIY. The second option is just asking for trouble.

Actually, I was thinking the other way. If the private key is lost would there be some way for Cryptolator to recover it. Of course, that would mean trusting them to keep it secure.

Say a two year old rips the hologram off and it goes away. I have zero way to get the PK right? And the BTC is gone? That's why I asked if the PK was on the certificate as well as the Address.

Yeah, the DIY is probably the only option for having a complete backup of the private key. I doubt Cryptolator would want the added liability of holding people's private keys.

The private key is only under the hologram, so if it get lost, the Bitcoin is gone...

It would be too dangerous to keep the private key (If the computer get compromised in some way, stollen or whatever that may happen) :P

The second option has been added because some people preferred it, as it does not require another paper with a second key to redeem. Of course they need to trust me when using this option, but the same was required for Casascius and Lealana. Of course multi-sig is the safest option in a customer point of view, but for some people, this might be an option that fit their needs. I totally understand your point tho !

Cryptolator is a registered company in Quebec, Canada and all my information are linked to this company, it wouldn't be a good idea for me to try to scam anyone ! :P

I've put 1 Bitcoin on it because I wanted them to have a fixed value, I do think that those kind of coin need to have a denomination. The coins have four states, Empty (0), Partially Funded (<1), Funded (1) or Over Funded (>1). This can be seen on the website by searching the coin by it's 8 char.

I've choose to accept Paypal and Cryptocurrencies, so Paypal would have been a problem if I was selling the coin AND the Bitcoin. Of course I could have ask every customer to send me 1BTC for every order they made using Paypal to pay the coin, but I thought there might have been trust issues so I've decide to go that way. I totally understand you point tho.

The key is under the hologram and only under the hologram and you don't need my website te redeem the Bitcoin. My website make it just a bit easier.

I am in Canada and taxes are only applicable to Canadian customers.

Since it caused some confusion, I think that all future series will be sold funded. So theoretically the next 0.1 Brass version should be sold funded (If anybody think it's not a good idea, give me your advices). I'll see if I'll have problem and react then... Since I am based in Canada, the regulation are different... we'll see then :P

I hope this make everything a little bit clearer, my first language is French so I may have some difficulty to say exactly what I have in head :P

I'm not suggesting that.

Is it possible, with option 1 and or 2 to get the private key printed on paper as well as the hologram? Or does that defeat the purpose?

That defeat the purpose, indeed :P

The beauty of the first option is Cryptolator can't give you the full private key because they never had it. Only your half with their half can produce the full key. You can always order an extra one for display that is unfunded.  ;)

Just as a reminder, we now have an official seller on eBay, if you are a US customer, you will save on shipping by buying from them: cflow01

http://www.ebay.ca/sch/i.html?_trksid=p2050601.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.Xcryptolator&_nkw=cryptolator&_sacat=0&_from=R40 (http://www.ebay.ca/sch/i.html?_trksid=p2050601.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.Xcryptolator&_nkw=cryptolator&_sacat=0&_from=R40)

Be fast, there is not a lot left !

I'll be releasing the first of the special edition (Red, Green, Blue, Yellow) next week.

The first one will be the red and will be a 7 days auctions.

All those coins will come with a special certificate stating "Red Edition" "Green Edition" "Blue Edition" "Yellow Edition" and coloured accordingly.

Those will have either the name of the colour complete instead of a serial number or either simply the first letter, ex. R, G, B, Y, depending on the engraver capacity.

They will all come filled with one Bitcoin and all use Multisignature option.

30 minutes left for 3 of my coins from my official eBay seller !
Save on shipping within USA !

http://www.ebay.ca/sch/i.html?_odkw=casascius&_osacat=0&_from=R40&_trksid=p2045573.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.Xcryptolator&_nkw=cryptolator&_sacat=0

Does the eBay sale allow us to choose which of the 3 options we want? I jumped on biding on eBay, wanting the DIY option, but now I fear the eBay product is the trust-based model (requires faith in everyone's honesty, plus proper security measures being taken). Can you clear up exactly what option(s) are available at the eBay auctions you linked to?

So, who won the giveaway? Was there an announcement on Facebook?

Ho, yeah, it's the single key option. If you want, I can ship you three "Personal" hologram so you just have to rip the current hologram (Really easy to remove the hologram and any trace left on the coin without damaging the coin itself) and replace by the "Personal". It shouldn't cost me a lot to send you a letter with the three hologram. Is that ok for you ?

Yes the winner has been announce on the Facebook post, here is the winner:
https://i.imgur.com/D8e08wv.png (https://i.imgur.com/D8e08wv.png)

You can see the post here:
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1428281034092214&set=a.1428281077425543.1073741828.1399598893627095&type=1&theater (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1428281034092214&set=a.1428281077425543.1073741828.1399598893627095&type=1&theater)

Oh well. Guess I'll have to buy one. ;)

New list above.

If you wanna save on shipping you can head on over eBay and bid on my coins from my official eBay seller: cflow01

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_odkw=cryptolator&_osacat=0&_from=R40&_trksid=p2045573.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0&_nkw=cryptolator&_sacat=0 (http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_odkw=cryptolator&_osacat=0&_from=R40&_trksid=p2045573.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0&_nkw=cryptolator&_sacat=0)

New serial availability listing below.

New price bellow.

If you received the coin and are happy with it, please give me a trust feedback, I'll do the same for you !

If you have the time and are willing to, a picture of the coin would be great ! :)

Updated price bellow.

Are there updated prices based on BTC current $520 US value?

Yep, I update them on a daily basis ! :)

If you have any request, question or suggestion feel free to post it ! :)

Revised price bellow.

Very cool design, but they're out of my price range.

Just got mine in the mail, adding to my collection of physical coins (Casascius, Bitcoin Specie, Silver Wallet, and now the Cryptolator). It really looks nice, good job.

Great ! Thanks for the good comment ! :)

Is this going to be on bitcointalk or ebay?

eBay, should be next week finally ! :)

I ordered one coin :)
I'll post pictures as soon as I'll receive it :)

Great ! :)

Updated prices bellow.

Cool! I would like to get one for my collection
IMO to collect physical coins is like you collect dc's with our favorite music singers.

Yeah, I also have quite a few different physical coins ! :)

I'm already working on the 2015 artwork and I'm also thinking of a 2015 Litecoin !

New serial number availability list bellow.

Love your coins, and all physical BTC I've seen so far really. I would love to have a personal collection of them all someday when my funds allow it. I'm currently working on a section on my site discussing offline/physical wallets and I will definitely try to remember to mention Cryptolator.

Great ! Thanks ! :)

Price revision bellow.

Just as a reminder, we now have an official seller on eBay, if you are a US customer, you will save on shipping by buying from them: cflow01

http://www.ebay.ca/sch/i.html?_trksid=p2050601.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.Xcryptolator&_nkw=cryptolator&_sacat=0&_from=R40 (http://www.ebay.ca/sch/i.html?_trksid=p2050601.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.Xcryptolator&_nkw=cryptolator&_sacat=0&_from=R40)

Be fast, there is not a lot left !

Still 12H to go for the 15% discount ! Be fast ! :)

Discount is over !

35/140 left !

New version on page 8.

Since a lot of peoples are asking me for specific serial number, I've decided to make a list of the available coins and I'll keep it up to date on a daily basis.

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Simply PM me if you want a specific serial number.

Works well on a Win8 box. It's much easier to use than Ravenbit or Serpcoin tools (no offense to either of them). I still prefer multi-signature. Maybe a BIP38 encryption option would be a good addition for someone that prefers a pre-attached hologram instead of DIY at home.

Can you elaborate on BIP38 ? (Sorry I'm at work, so no time yet to search on that, hehe, and I think it would be usefull information for some peoples)

It basically allows someone to encrypt their private key so they can send it to you to install under the hologram. They don't need to worry about you seeing because it needs a password to decrypt the private key. Here is a link for more info https://bitcoinpaperwallet.com/bip38-password-encrypted-wallets/ (https://bitcoinpaperwallet.com/bip38-password-encrypted-wallets/) and https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/blob/master/bip-0038.mediawiki (https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/blob/master/bip-0038.mediawiki).

Ho ! Nice !

That will be in version 2.0 for sure ! :)

New version 1.1

Last week I've asked my developer to create a little utility to print coin insert for my coins. It is based on the Casascius Bitcoin Address Utility. It is really simple and create perfect round key and rectangle address for my coins and hologram.

I've just added a new feature, when you print, it also create a .txt file with all the address. I think it make it easier to back them up. :)

Here is the GUI:
https://i.imgur.com/fW0pcU6.png

Here is what it print:
https://i.imgur.com/nwabPlo.png


File Only (No Setup, just extract the file to a desired folder)
http://www.cryptolator.com/Cryptolator_Coin_Insert_Generator_1.1.zip (http://www.cryptolator.com/Cryptolator_Coin_Insert_Generator_1.1.zip)

Source Code (If you wanna take a look at the code, or build it yourself in Visual C#)
http://www.cryptolator.com/Cryptolator_Coin_Insert_Generator_1.1_Source.zip (http://www.cryptolator.com/Cryptolator_Coin_Insert_Generator_1.1_Source.zip)

Give me your feedback ! :)

No more coins left.

I'll put the four special coins on eBay starting with the Red next week (Yes, I know I've been saying that for something like three week, but this time, it will happen :P )

Wow.. that went fast.  I could have sworn there were 35 or so left as of today. Glad I got my two in.

Are you planning on making a new design soon, now that you're sold out?  I'd love to have them limited again to around the same edition size.

Next batch will be lower denomination on different material with the same design and will be cheaper.

I am currently working on a new design that will be released in January 2015, since I plan to make a different design once per year.

Might have some surprise before the end of the year tho ! ;)

Page mentioning Cryptolator in the safety section on my site up here (http://"http://www.cryptoplanet.co/BTCIntro.html"). My site is mostly unfinished and the pages that are written are getting constantly updated by myself whenever I can find the time. Feel free to visit my Bitcoin faucet here (http://"http://www.cryptoplanet.co/BTCfaucet.php") if you would like to support my site.
Thanks,
snarlpill

Thanks for the mention !

If you are taking reservations put me down for the first ten of your next denomination :).

https://i.imgur.com/ikKLGWVl.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/JeERZbll.jpg

These are really amazing ! Thank you Cryptolator  :)
Put me down for you next release ! BTC

 8)

I'll try to reserve 10 as low as possible serial number for you ! :)

Wow ! :) Thanks ! :P

I am currently trying to find the best deal (Quality/Price) for my next batch...

I would like to go with my current minters but the price is a bit on the high side, of course the quality would be awesome like the current batch but that would mean that I would have to sell them in the 25ish bucks range...

This version would be in fine coppers (Shinny), that would look fabulous..

The denomination would be 0.1BTC and the batch would be 500.

What you guys think ?

Should I go with a cheap one and sacrifice the quality or go with higher quality ?

Thanks for helping me out making my mind, cause right now, I am really not sure what move I should make ! :/

Jonathan

I personally would prefer the higher quality myself. Do you know how much cheaper the alternative minter would be?

I too would be interested in at least 10 of the lowest possible s/n coins if the price will be at or below $25/coin.

I would probably be able to sell them for around 10-12$ each... Maybe less...

Any idea how much the quality will suffer in order to get that price?

Probably quite a bit, since the die would be computer created instead of plaster hand sculpted... the material option I have is: ALUMINUM, NICODIUM, BRONZE, COPPER, NICKEL

The options I have for the most expensive one are: ANTIQUE BRONZE, SHINY BRASS, ANTIQUE NICKEL, SHINY NICKEL, ANTIQUE COPPER OR SHINY COPPER COIN

What material would you prefer ?

Hard question. You managed to sell your first batch just fine, and now that your over that 'hump', your a respected coin maker with a brand. Your coins were AMAZING quality; stunning. That said, I think a smallish batch of 500 coppers would sell. You make high quality coins; keep it that way.

On the other hand, $25 is alot for a copper coin, BUT perhaps not so much if it has a wallet included.

I assuming your making the coppers in the same design as this previous coin In that case, I would say go with the old mint, and have them both uniform.

From a business perspective however, go with the lower quality. While the previous coin was simply amazing, with a very cheap coin of 10-12 you could get ALOT of people buying them. For me, $25 requires some consideration but ill spend $12 without much of it. You could easily become the most popular maker of such coins with wallets; many buyers would come. This is very good long-term.

All in all, tough choice..

Definitely  not: aluminum

I (and i think most) want a heavy coin, a coin with mass. Not light like made by casascius. A bold, attention grabbing thing to put on display.
shiny copper is good, antique copper is better. antique nickel is also a good bet.
If you do shiny nickel, you must use the same mint as last time, since coins will be same color. I think it could go very well.

To be quite honest, I would consider the Shiny nickel and use the same mint the coins would then be the same except for different metal and compliment each other well.

I say antique broze OR antique copper OR shiny nickel

Would you still be able to offer multi-signature with the lower cost coins? My guess is if the exchange rate continues to head up close to $1000, I think higher quality will sell. If it drops back to the $400-$500s, then the lower cost coins are the way to go. I would like to see the higher quality coins, but the market is tough right now. Smoothie didn't even get face value for his recent auction of funded 1/10 rolls. After the auction he lowered the price on his website. This could all change mattering the price of BTC.

Antique copper would be nice.

Thanks for your input ! I think I'll stay with my current mint and I'll see how it goes, I want high quality over high profit ! :)

I dont think I would go with Shiny Nickel since it would look too much like the silver series...

Antique Bronze could look good, I need to make my mind before 72h since I want to order before the weekend.

The process time is minimum 6 weeks, so I guess I'll have them in the end of July or something...

Yes, I will still offer multi-sig since it has been the most used options of the first series...

This option is really time consuming (I can't make a batch of them, I do them when I receive the order), so that is one of the reason it make the price a bit higher.

Also, at this price, it comes only in a air-tite capsule, no box unfortunately... (If peoples really want box, I may add this options but it would add something like 5$-6$ per coin)

Thanks for your input ! :)

I would vote for higher quality.  There's a lot of lesser quality coins out there, but the thing that appealed to me with your coin was the sculpted relief, varying finishes (polished vs frosted), size, weight, and rarity.  After I received my first coin, I liked it so much, I ordered another. 

i think you should maintain the quality of your brand and not devalue it. 

If the price of bitcoins stays high, people will be willing to pay more for the coin itself.

Great ! Ok, now I'm pretty sure I'll go with higher quality !

The only thing I need to decide is the material....

Thanks for your input ! :P

I think I would like to see these in copper, it would look sweet nice and shined up!

actually, ill second that. the antique varieties wouldn't bring out the shine nearly as well.
I would go with shiny nickel or shiny copper, both have their advantages

I would vote for a shiny copper.  It would remind me of Olympic medals (least expensive.. copper, middle.. silver, most expensive down the road.. gold or silver with gold).  Nolacoins follows this model for their .5, 1, and 3.0 physical bitcoin , which come in different colors for different denominations.

I'll have the preview of Antique bronze, shiny brass, antique copper and shiny copper coin tomorrow or friday.

I may send it here for you guys have a look, but, I really think it will be shiny copper (But my mind isn't quite set yet ! :P )

Thanks for all your comments guys  ! :)

I'd like the higher quality coins.
Can I reserve 3 already? I'd like specific numbers if possible :)

Well shit obviously I miss out on this :(

seconded

Yep, PM me the numbers, it will be from 001 to 500...  ;)

Sent you a PM.  I'll take one.

Ok, I've started my waiting list, so if you want a specific number, just PM me and I'll put you on the list.

I should receive my next batch in the end of July/ Beginning of August.

They will likely be in Fine Copper, but I'll receive some artwork tomorrow and I'll make the final decision then.

Coins 001 to 010 are already taken and some others also...

There will be 500 coins in this series and they will likely be priced around 25$ in individual order, I'll have bulk price also...

Feel free to give your advice or ask questions ! :)

Ok guys, I need your opinion, which one do you prefer ?

(BTW, the 1 Bitcoin will be replaced by 0.1 Bitcoin and the .999 Fine Silver will be removed)

https://i.imgur.com/77Rw1ep.png
https://i.imgur.com/pBDYhtR.png
https://i.imgur.com/9k49T33.png
https://i.imgur.com/s3sJr0m.png


Thanks ! :)

Option 2 and 3 look pretty nice :)

I gravitate towards the bronze. Also, from random antiqued coins and medals I've seen, the antiquing process doesn't alway look the same (sometimes it looks shiny and painted on to me, short of cheesy). If you go with antiqued, make sure it looks good.

I vote for #2. 

I like option 2 :)
Whatever you decide to go for, I'll still be happy to buy :) (I sent you a PM with numbers to reserve a while back).

#2 or #4 with a slight preference for #2.

I can't believe I missed out on the first batch! I like option 2.
Going to send you a PM now to reserve some so I don't miss out this time :)

Ok, those are the currently taken numbers for the next batch:

001, 002, 003 ,004, 005, 006, 007, 008, 009, 010, 011, 012, 013, 014, 015, 016, 017, 018, 019, 020, 021, 022, 023, 024, 025, 69, 099, 100, 101, 111, 123, 222, 333, 444, 500

i call 94 as well

New batch of 0.1 Bitcoin has been ordered today ! Yay !! :)

I should receive the new batch by the end of July, if you wanna reserve some particular numbers, PM me ! :)

Still 24h to buy the "Red" named coin. It's a 1/4 in the "Colours Edition".
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Cryptolator-Physical-BTC-Bit-coin-Colours-Series-Red-1-of-4-/251568291427?pt=US_World_Coins&hash=item3a92a37e63 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Cryptolator-Physical-BTC-Bit-coin-Colours-Series-Red-1-of-4-/251568291427?pt=US_World_Coins&hash=item3a92a37e63)

Good luck ! :)

Any update on when the new coin will be released?
I'm too excited :)

They told me that I should have them in hand at the end of July ! :)

The Green Cryptolator Silver Unchained is now on eBay !

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Cryptolator-Physical-BTC-Bit-coin-Green-2nd-4-NOT-Casascius-Lealana-/251576536409?pt=US_World_Coins&hash=item3a93214d59&_uhb=1 (http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Cryptolator-Physical-BTC-Bit-coin-Green-2nd-4-NOT-Casascius-Lealana-/251576536409?pt=US_World_Coins&hash=item3a93214d59&_uhb=1)

Had a few of these graded. Most came back MS68, a few MS69, and two MS70.

http://s27.postimg.org/s22zwdti7/IMG_7488.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/s22zwdti7/) http://s27.postimg.org/49tokurhb/IMG_7489.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/49tokurhb/)


Edit: None of the Lealana rounds came back above MS69.  :P

congrats on the MS70!!  ;D

Ho my god !!! MS70 !!!

Please post a pics of the two MS70 if you have some time ! :)

I am really happy right now ! :)

Thanks !  ;D

Here are the two MS70.

http://s22.postimg.org/km5r29i2l/IMG_7545.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/km5r29i2l/) http://s22.postimg.org/wmr72zph9/IMG_7547.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/wmr72zph9/)

http://s22.postimg.org/snpe6fbgd/IMG_7550.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/snpe6fbgd/) http://s22.postimg.org/9wngw9gvx/IMG_7553.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/9wngw9gvx/)

I thought ANACS was the only company people sent physical bitcoins to.  Didn't realize another company also accepts them.

Is their grading comparable to ANACS?  I never saw anything grade above a MS68 which was a Lealana on eBay.

ICG is definitely not comparable. The same way ANACS doesn't compare to PCGS or NGC.

I think that is debatable. PCGS and NGC are definitely harder graders than ANACS, but I am not sure ANACS is any better than ICG. Everything I have read places ANACS and ICG on the same tier of grading service.

Edit: Let me elaborate on this. From everything I have seen and read, the differences between ANACS and ICG are the following:

1. ICG does not allow its employees to buy/sell coins, while ANACS has no problem with employees buying/selling their coins.  

2. ANACS grading is less consistent than ICG. So, you can get a good deal if you spot a MS66 that should really be a MS67 or MS68. ICG may appear to give a slightly higher average grade but not necessarily from a lack of integrity of its graders. This maybe a good thing to some by the simple virtue of their being less MS68 coins from ANACS, but I do not think it is always based on actual numismatic merits.

Thanks man ! :)

Ok, those are the currently taken numbers for the next batch:

001, 002, 003 ,004, 005, 006, 007, 008, 009, 010, 011, 012, 013, 014, 015, 016, 017, 018, 019, 020, 021, 022, 023, 024, 025, 029, 030, 031, 066, 069, 091, 099, 100, 101, 111, 120, 123, 200, 222, 300, 321, 333, 400, 444, 500

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I also reserved coin #50 in my PM. Could you adjust the list please? Thanks :) - Can't wait till they're ready!

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Can't wait too !!! ;)

One of the first rules I learned about coin investing, and I'm not sure how much it applies to crypto coins since there are other value adds at play like the digital value, is buy the coin, not the slab.

Still heading for an end of July / early August release for the next batch!! ;)

PM sent!:)

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I've sent you a PM, I want to reserve a coin or two.  Which option did you choose?  The #2 Proof-like bronze looked the best in my opinion. :)

How much will each coin cost?  If you posted it already, I must have missed it, sorry :(

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Just a quick note for those waiting for the next batch.

We should receive the new batch between the 7th and the 12th of August.

We'll make a proper announcement with price and details around the 14th of August if everything goes well ! :)

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Can't wait to see the pictures!
When will you accept payment for the preordered coins?
I'm so hyped for this :)

If everything goes well, on Friday ! ;)

To all those who reserved coins, here is the new thread:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=745156.msg8423500#msg8423500 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=745156.msg8423500#msg8423500)

The new coins are available and ready to ship !

PM me if you have any questions ! :)