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Title: Are you a sociopath - psychopath?
Post by: @ThisWeeksCoin on April 29, 2014, 01:02:10 AM
Just answer the question above. :)

I heard that one in 25 persons is a sociopath. I'm trying to figure out some stuff.


Thanks for your time!


PS: Self moderated topic, just to avoid useless troll comments.


Title: Re: Are you a sociopath - psychopath?
Post by: beetcoin on April 29, 2014, 01:14:31 AM
no. but an interesting thing is that most sociopaths don't go around broadcasting it, so i suspect that there were more than we are aware of.


Title: Re: Are you a sociopath - psychopath?
Post by: counter on April 29, 2014, 01:16:55 AM
I choose D. None of the above. 

I didn't see any suitable reason for one of those to be a label best suited for me.


Title: Re: Are you a sociopath - psychopath?
Post by: @ThisWeeksCoin on April 29, 2014, 01:25:23 AM
2 sociopaths so far. Let's see more :)


Title: Re: Are you a sociopath - psychopath?
Post by: beetcoin on April 29, 2014, 01:28:06 AM
2 sociopaths so far. Let's see more :)

no. you're a terrorist. NSA has been contacted, though i probably didn't even need to do that.


Title: Re: Are you a sociopath - psychopath?
Post by: @ThisWeeksCoin on April 29, 2014, 01:30:24 AM
2 sociopaths so far. Let's see more :)

no. you're a terrorist. NSA has been contacted, though i probably didn't even need to do that.
Thanks for taking care of your country.

Still 2 sociopaths.


Title: Re: Are you a sociopath - psychopath?
Post by: 21st-century on April 29, 2014, 02:12:44 AM
I've only known one person in my life who I would consider a sociopath and they were a terrible person. These kinds of individuals are nothing but a mask. Imagine that your every interaction with another person was completely false because you simply didn't care about them. You would have to fake everything from scratch. Things like gratitude, humility, respect, empathy, friendship, guilt, and regret - pretty much everything social animals do without thinking - a sociopath has to manufacture. In this way, the social effects of sociopathy are remarkably similar to that of aspergers syndrome or schizoid personality disorder, and I would argue - equally as debilitating.

It has been said that sociopaths are the next step in human evolution from an alleged "rational" perspective, but I would argue the disorder is nothing more than a crippling social debility. I say this because it is very, very hard, for these individuals to appear completely normal, all of the time (which is a requirement for healthy interpersonal relationships.) We as healthy individuals don't have to worry about our masks slipping, revealing the inner monster. But a sociopath must always maintain their facade, every day, for the rest of their life... and it must be exhausting. And in that time they only have to slip once to destroy the relationships they spent years leveraging. That is the risk a sociopath faces every day when their entire existence is based on lies.

No, I'm not a sociopath (and I wouldn't want to be.)


Title: Re: Are you a sociopath - psychopath?
Post by: beetcoin on April 29, 2014, 02:18:01 AM
there were a few interesting reddit AMAs from sociopaths.. apparently they like to manipulate people and feel no remorse.. some even get off on making others react negatively.

has anyone had a gf who threatened to harm herself if you didn't do something for her? that's a tell-tale sign of it.


Title: Re: Are you a sociopath - psychopath?
Post by: frankenmint on April 29, 2014, 02:28:05 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWAgjHoBUXM


Title: Re: Are you a sociopath - psychopath?
Post by: LostDutchman on April 29, 2014, 02:28:46 AM
Just answer the question above. :)

I heard that one in 25 persons is a sociopath. I'm trying to figure out some stuff.


Thanks for your time!


PS: Self moderated topic, just to avoid useless troll comments.

Well, I took the online test but if I told you the results, I'd have to kill you.

LOL!

Just kidding!

My $.02.

;)

P.S.

Can you think of anything that would go well with fava beans and a nice Chianti?


Title: Re: Are you a sociopath - psychopath?
Post by: beetcoin on April 29, 2014, 02:30:59 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWAgjHoBUXM

wtf? the youtube commentors didn't even question the methodology of the test.. they just talked about what they actually chose.


Title: Re: Are you a sociopath - psychopath?
Post by: @ThisWeeksCoin on April 29, 2014, 02:37:36 AM
Just answer the question above. :)

I heard that one in 25 persons is a sociopath. I'm trying to figure out some stuff.


Thanks for your time!


PS: Self moderated topic, just to avoid useless troll comments.

Well, I took the online test but if I told you the results, I'd have to kill you.

LOL!

Just kidding!

My $.02.

;)

P.S.

Can you think of anything that would go well with fava beans and a nice Chianti?


Carrots
!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWAgjHoBUXM

wtf? the youtube commentors didn't even question the methodology of the test.. they just talked about what they actually chose.

Which colors are those??

RED

Purple
Blue
Green

It's just a mind game. That "test" can't be even called test. lol


He was providing you information ( in this case, orange letters ). You already had the answer before he even asked, you just didn't know


Title: Re: Are you a sociopath - psychopath?
Post by: hilariousandco on April 29, 2014, 08:22:36 AM
I think most people probably have at least some sociopathic tendencies.

no. but an interesting thing is that most sociopaths don't go around broadcasting it, so i suspect that there were more than we are aware of.

Sociopaths are usually great at hiding their true feelings and can come across as really nice people, but that's how they rope their victims in. They soon change when they've got their claws into people though.


Title: Re: Are you a sociopath - psychopath?
Post by: Swordsoffreedom on April 29, 2014, 08:25:25 AM
Well we can all be a bit sociopath inside the psycho path is the Tsundere Based option  ;D
http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120128011750/futurediary/images/a/a5/YunoYandereFace.jpg


Title: Re: Are you a sociopath - psychopath?
Post by: Malin Keshar on April 30, 2014, 01:40:46 AM
psychos have so many advantages in the modern world. Sometimes I really wanted to be one.

Most sociopaths are really manipulating and convincing that when, and if, their acts are revelled people just refuse to believe the truth. And most serial killers receive love letters while in jail.


Title: Re: Are you a sociopath - psychopath?
Post by: beetcoin on April 30, 2014, 02:22:48 AM
I think most people probably have at least some sociopathic tendencies.

no. but an interesting thing is that most sociopaths don't go around broadcasting it, so i suspect that there were more than we are aware of.

Sociopaths are usually great at hiding their true feelings and can come across as really nice people, but that's how they rope their victims in. They soon change when they've got their claws into people though.

do you have a sociopath ex gf that ricked you into the anal probing, and you accidentally started liking it?


Title: Re: Are you a sociopath - psychopath?
Post by: LostDutchman on April 30, 2014, 02:26:44 AM
Once when I was a kid I went over to a freind's house.

He was shooting baby kittens with a bow and arrow.

I took the bow away from him, hit him with it and left.

I never went back there and would not speak to him at school.

My $.02.

;)


Title: Re: Are you a sociopath - psychopath?
Post by: beetcoin on April 30, 2014, 02:28:01 AM
Once when I was a kid I went over to a freind's house.

He was shooting baby kittens with a bow and arrow.

I took the bow away from him, hit him with it and left.

I never went back there and would not speak to him at school.

My $.02.

;)

hitting a kid like that.. you must be a sociopath!

i remember a kid who was in my same boy scout troop.. who microwaved his cat. that's fucked up.


Title: Re: Are you a sociopath - psychopath?
Post by: LostDutchman on April 30, 2014, 02:29:27 AM
Once when I was a kid I went over to a freind's house.

He was shooting baby kittens with a bow and arrow.

I took the bow away from him, hit him with it and left.

I never went back there and would not speak to him at school.

My $.02.

;)

hitting a kid like that.. you must be a sociopath!

i remember a kid who was in my same boy scout troop.. who microwaved his cat. that's fucked up.

LOL!

GOOD ONE!

My $.02.

;)


Title: Re: Are you a sociopath - psychopath?
Post by: monbux on April 30, 2014, 02:35:04 AM
Would a sociopath consider themselves a sociopath?   ::)


Title: Re: Are you a sociopath - psychopath?
Post by: LostDutchman on April 30, 2014, 02:35:59 AM
Would a sociopath consider themselves a sociopath?   ::)

Based on my experience in dealing with a few of them, they know.

My $.02.

;)


Title: Re: Are you a sociopath - psychopath?
Post by: counter on April 30, 2014, 03:06:01 AM
Call it a hunch but something tells me a sociopath would have a problem with being labled a sociopath lol.


Title: Re: Are you a sociopath - psychopath?
Post by: LostDutchman on April 30, 2014, 03:09:45 AM
Call it a hunch but something tells me a sociopath would have a problem with being labled a sociopath lol.

Actually they don't and for the most part come to terms with what they are.

Check out this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dennis_Rader

He told the courts in very cool terms what he had done and what he would do should he not be locked up.

My $.02.

;)


Title: Re: Are you a sociopath - psychopath?
Post by: beetcoin on April 30, 2014, 03:12:42 AM
the serial murderers have a sense of pride about what they do.. it actually turns them on.


Title: Re: Are you a sociopath - psychopath?
Post by: hilariousandco on April 30, 2014, 02:01:02 PM
Call it a hunch but something tells me a sociopath would have a problem with being labled a sociopath lol.

They would probably just gloat and take pride in themselves if they were exposed as a sociopath. They would do whatever they could to appear as if they're still on top or in control.


Title: Re: Are you a sociopath - psychopath?
Post by: ShibaWow on April 30, 2014, 03:16:24 PM
what makes you think people know they're sociopaths?


Title: Re: Are you a sociopath - psychopath?
Post by: @ThisWeeksCoin on April 30, 2014, 03:38:36 PM
what makes you think people know they're sociopaths?
They're different.
They look for the "symptoms" and discover it.

( I guess? :P )


Title: Re: Are you a sociopath - psychopath?
Post by: beetcoin on April 30, 2014, 05:37:50 PM
what makes you think people know they're sociopaths?

look up reddit amas about sociopaths.. there are people who are diagnosed with it.. they just accept it. not all of them are like that, sure, but i'd guess that there are a decent number of them who know.


Title: Re: Are you a sociopath - psychopath?
Post by: counter on April 30, 2014, 06:07:51 PM
Call it a hunch but something tells me a sociopath would have a problem with being labled a sociopath lol.

Actually they don't and for the most part come to terms with what they are.

Check out this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dennis_Rader

He told the courts in very cool terms what he had done and what he would do should he not be locked up.

My $.02.

;)

Well I stand corrected.  Seems they bask in the glory of being demonized, go figure.


Title: Re: Are you a sociopath - psychopath?
Post by: counter on April 30, 2014, 06:09:45 PM
Call it a hunch but something tells me a sociopath would have a problem with being labled a sociopath lol.

They would probably just gloat and take pride in themselves if they were exposed as a sociopath. They would do whatever they could to appear as if they're still on top or in control.

I guess when you are mentally unstable people should expect your actions to be represented and magnified by your disability.  Kind of a no brainier no pun intended.


Title: Re: Are you a sociopath - psychopath?
Post by: Mike Christ on April 30, 2014, 06:19:24 PM
High-functioning sociopaths are interesting; they're not necessarily violent people, they acknowledge what they are and cope as anyone else might.  Psychopaths OTOH are nucking futs and I wouldn't want to cross one in a dark alley.


Title: Re: Are you a sociopath - psychopath?
Post by: practicaldreamer on April 30, 2014, 06:29:24 PM
I had a girlfriend back in the day who I believe now was a sociopath. It was a nightmare.

     I remember reading somewhere that Ian Brady had said that Myra Hindley had had a sex drive "almost like a mans" - and I must say, the woman I had the misfortune of knowing could be described likewise - not that I'd put the woman in the same category as Hindley, but it has made me think over the years about the relationship between sexuality/sexual deviancy (hormones ?) and (female) sociopathy.

  And no, to answer the OP, I don't believe that  I'm either a sociopath or a psychopath. These are terms we only use for the dysfunctional working class - and not the ambitious performance driven upper middle class (like wot I am guv  ;))  ;D


Title: Re: Are you a sociopath - psychopath?
Post by: practicaldreamer on April 30, 2014, 08:55:45 PM
Does anyone here like snooker ? The world championship is on at the minute in Sheffield. Terry Griffiths is doing a bit of commentary - I like Terry, he's a philosopher of the green baize.
      Reason I mention it is that earlier on today Terry was trying to explain (understand) what happens psychologically when the game of a player collapses - and in snooker it is always some kind of mental collapse that makes the top professional lose. He said that a player makes a mistake in one frame and subsequently loses the frame - he then spends the next 5 frames pondering over the mistake that he made initially - and so subsequently loses the next 5 frames also. As Terry put it, the player becomes halted in the moment of the initial mistake, but meanwhile time moves on around him.

   It just struck me that the psychopath would be much less likely to fall prey to such mental collapses whereby they might, as a result, lose the match. They would move on much quicker. Psychopathy confers some kind of an evolutionary benefit after all - albeit, when looking at the long game, lesser of an advantage than that of rational empathy and compassion.



Title: Re: Are you a sociopath - psychopath?
Post by: Dogtanian on May 01, 2014, 01:43:34 PM
I had a girlfriend back in the day who I believe now was a sociopath. It was a nightmare.

I think all my ex girlfriends have been sociopaths lol.



Title: Re: Are you a sociopath - psychopath?
Post by: hilariousandco on May 01, 2014, 01:46:55 PM
I remember reading somewhere that Ian Brady had said that Myra Hindley had had a sex drive "almost like a mans" - and I must say, the woman I had the misfortune of knowing could be described likewise - not that I'd put the woman in the same category as Hindley, but it has made me think over the years about the relationship between sexuality/sexual deviancy (hormones ?) and (female) sociopathy.


Well usually woman who turn out to be serial killers have a history of being abused by men and have huge daddy issues, so they usually tend to try get affection from men in any way they can and sex is one of those ways. Abusive men then take advantage of this and fuck them up mentally even more and the cycle continues.


Title: Re: Are you a sociopath - psychopath?
Post by: practicaldreamer on May 01, 2014, 04:45:17 PM
I remember reading somewhere that Ian Brady had said that Myra Hindley had had a sex drive "almost like a mans" - and I must say, the woman I had the misfortune of knowing could be described likewise - not that I'd put the woman in the same category as Hindley, but it has made me think over the years about the relationship between sexuality/sexual deviancy (hormones ?) and (female) sociopathy.


Well usually woman who turn out to be serial killers have a history of being abused by men and have huge daddy issues, so they usually tend to try get affection from men in any way they can and sex is one of those ways. Abusive men then take advantage of this and fuck them up mentally even more and the cycle continues.

Its only just occurred to me, but Brady was of course a psychopath himself - so everything he says has to be taken with a pinch of salt. But I must say, it does have the ring of truth about it.
   Hindley was said to have had a strict and hard father who beat her. Not uncommon this in those days - a "leathering" was par for the course in many households. So I personally am not wholly convinced by this as an explanation, in itself, for her later behaviour. I'm no clinician but I would be interested to know the role of hormones in personality development, in particular abnormal personalities.

   It just struck me that the psychopath would be much less likely to fall prey to such mental collapses whereby they might, as a result, lose the match. They would move on much quicker. Psychopathy confers some kind of an evolutionary benefit after all ...


...except ,of course, they wouldn't generally win the match because they don't have the ability to learn from their own mistakes to quite the same extent as a well adjusted human being - delusions of grandeur etc


Title: Re: Are you a sociopath - psychopath?
Post by: Swordsoffreedom on May 07, 2014, 04:57:50 AM
I had a girlfriend back in the day who I believe now was a sociopath. It was a nightmare.

I think all my ex girlfriends have been sociopaths lol.



Finding the normal one is a challenge :) although true enough ^_^