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GHASH.IO vs ELIGIUS.ST

Which pool is more profitable. Its seems GHASH.IO more appealing. What you say?

So I tried both with several th/s over the past couple of months because I started having problems with btcguild, ghash.io has a more refined interface and two-factor authentication for account management. The eligius interface seemed to have a lot of bugs in it, I got all of my miners to attach but the payouts didn't really meet expectations either, even taking pool luck into consideration. The eligius payout was 20% lower over a 5 day period when compared to both ghash.io and btcguild.  That being said, the reported gh/s on miners over at ghash.io is not very accurate and off by about 5%-10%. Ghash.io also had an outage this week which resulted in dropped miners and there's also a problem with autopayouts too.

For me, ghash.io shows accurate hashrates and mines more coins that others. mmpool was the worst for me.
Any one tried multipool? Their stats shows astonishing figures in the tune of .0001+ But I never got that much and was below ghash.io.

So may I know on which pool do you mine btc?

Both

For me the best is ghash.io, mainly becouse of the sms notifications in case of hw problems

When I used to mine, after leaving BTCGuild, I went over to Eligius. The only reason though was because at the time GHASH was very close to getting 51% and I didnt want to contribute to that. While on Eligius though, I must admit the interface is not good at all, it feels like the payouts takes years, and the stats were not always accurate. The payouts however, seemed fairly decent. Plus side, payouts go to your wallet, they don't hang out on the website that can get hacked.

Then I moved over to GHASH, the interface is great, very user friendly, everything is fantastic and clear to read. Pros: payouts also seemed very good, payouts were fast, stats were more accurate than Eligius, but still not entirely. Cons: I actually had my accoutn hacked and got some bitcoin stolen from my account. They tried getting into my coinbase too, but I had two factor. If you go GHASH, get two factor, immediately. First thing you should do. Other than that, there are a lot of other services they have through CEX.io available to you. I would go GHASH if I started mining again.

You can also setup an automated daily payout to multiple address, so an hacker that has access to your account won't find lot of btcs to steal

Lucky enough for me, I was already clearing out the bitcoin every night at 12 am, so the hacker only got a small amount, still very frustrating though. It was of course my mistake. Always set up all the security you can.

Definitely: tfa is so simple to setup and can greatly reduce these tipes of attack

Eligius has had namecoin payout issues for the last several months.
Eligius auto payout is too high as well, I don't like that much coin sitting on any site.
Ghash can't seem to get their autopayout to work at all and while the 2fa is sweet, it could be more flexible.
Ghash fees for manual withdraws are steep as well imnsho.
I like Ghash's site though; but I am looking currently for another pool that can get the auto payout to work.*
*plus a bunch of other options that ghash and eligius don't offer...
With that said, the option of opening a new pool is appealing to me, just getting new miners to join to make it worth
everyones time.

This in my case isn't true: autopayout is always triggered (yes, every day), and there aren't fees like the manual.

Where the 2fa could be more flexible?

Really? Well you're a special case because there are a lot of us who have been waiting over 48 hrs for it to engage and some have been waiting 8 days.
F2a how about using passkeys instead of attaching a number to the account? I sure in the hell am not giving a number to a site that isn't even regulated.
But I know everyone uses a phone even Richard Stallman, right?

You can easily setup google tfa, so you don't even need to put a telephone number

I don't understand why people are so paranoid like that. But yes, you can set up 2 factor and not have your phone attached.

Dude, there are a lot of horror stories of people that have lost their coins due to a keylogger/malware. As another user already told, is better safe than sorry.

ghash.io takes full advantage of merged mining and to me that's why many people prefer it. As well with the 0% fee.

At least for me, ghash.io and eligius in terms of merged mining are equal: yes ghash has the extra of ixc and dev, but them aren't worth a f**k

Well yeah, dvc is in all time lows but ixcoin is doing fine and from what I see the developers are sorta active too.

I contacted ghash regarding the auto payout. Mine was too not working.
They informed me that, there was some technical issues in that part of auto payout and its already corrected now.
You need to clear(Delete) your current wallet addresses from auto payout and recreate auto payout again to make it working.
I did the above and is now working. It will take 12 to 24 hours to trigger once its recreated.

Yesterday ghash have some other technical issues.
Some of the blocks were not paid. They did manual payout for them later.

Any one have experience in mmpool.org ?

Yep, noticed also here, now they should have manual paid all the unpaid blocks.

Their pool hashn't found a block for quite some time now because of their low hashrate.

I was in much loss pointing miners there.

I'm checking out give me coins right now. Don't know about profit though since I just started and their pool
hashrate is low compared to the other 2. Probably take longer for payout but will be the same in the end.
ps: google loves all of you

Hi Guys

Only been with Ghash.io that then rquires a CEX.IO acoount for settings etc ? Is this correct ??

Anyway i first set up auto payment to onne wallet at 100% at 0.2 BTC.

I have over 0.228 BTC in the account and it has not been sent to my wallet,i just deleted it and added a new ADD PAYEE but there is no option toset an amount ??

Totally confused.

It states -

Auto-payouts are triggered once a day, at arbitrary time.

Payout threshold:  0.01


Anyone advise ?


Thansk

You can't set a treshold, it's automatic at 0.01 BTC. Many users have noticed problems with auto-pay in the last week: simply try to wipe the old fields, and re-type label, address and percentage. (in 24-48h you should be able to see your coins)

My advice Stop mining there and go find a new home. Because it should have triggered yesterday when they finally pushed it.
And that wallet addy is a bunch of pure BS spewed to make you feel like you got support.
I never deleted my wallet addy or changed it and was paid like it should have worked all along.

May or May not.
In some cases that process is required if there is a db entry needed to the auto payout to trigger.
Same time it can also be like you said.

Anyone getting coins near what multipool.us profitability in homepage?
For sha256 0.0001/day is their rate.

http://s8.postimg.org/y9iix5jz9/multipool_us.jpg

Here is one reason i now mine on GHash :

302040 (Main Chain)   2014-05-22 08:20:15   GHash.IO
302039 (Main Chain)   2014-05-22 08:10:30   GHash.IO   
302038 (Main Chain)   2014-05-22 08:04:06   GHash.IO   
302037 (Main Chain)   2014-05-22 07:52:14   GHash.IO
302036 (Main Chain)   2014-05-22 07:14:42   GHash.IO   
302035 (Main Chain)   2014-05-22 07:02:59   107.170.228.129   
302034 (Main Chain)   2014-05-22 06:57:59   GHash.IO   
302033 (Main Chain)   2014-05-22 06:51:57   GHash.IO   
302032 (Main Chain)   2014-05-22 06:40:06   GHash.IO
302031 (Main Chain)   2014-05-22 06:39:28   GHash.IO   
302030 (Main Chain)   2014-05-22 06:32:33   GHash.IO   

It may take sometime even more than 30 hours but since started with them March 2014 I had 0 problems
and most of all 0 fees and able to trade my Namecoins and Litecoins
They promise to go for Doge trade and Devocoin trade but so far nothing I dont know how they manage to do it
with the multipool available...

Uh there is a hefty fee (imo) if you withdraw manually. The only payout without a fee is btc and that is if you wait for the autopayout if and when it works.

The profitability numbers reported on the main page for SHA-256 are not very accurate due to the way they're calculated.  I'm working on improving the accuracy.

My own mining stats (for my piddly BFL little single) show that we are generally 10-15% above mining btc(+merged coins) alone.

yea they like to pull shady shit like raise the auto payout fee without telling anyone.
and to charge an auto payout fee how fricking greedy are you? My advice find a pool that doesn't charge auto payout fees.
And communicates to it's members.

the project seems pretty abandoned too. Haven't found a block since like months

That's a reason NOT to mine at GHash.  Do you want a 51% attack?  The pool finding more blocks doesn't mean you mine more coins.

Theatricality the pool mines more blocks doesn't mean more coins. But in practise you that's not entirely true atleast in this case.

They don't want to destroy bitcoin network with a 51% attack (when ghash.io was very close to 51% of hashpower, they have posted an official statement about it: they are working and making profit with bitcoin network so is a totally nosense spread FUD with a 51% attack)

Ghash is effectively more profitable. They both merge mine namecoins but ghash mines dvc and ixc as well. They are both worth basically nothing but that little bit does make a difference.

The main reason for moving to ghash is their simple neat interface and continues payout due to low or 0 varience.

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Does it?  A new template has to be generated every time DVC and IXC block changes.  If this increases your stale rate by even 0.1% it's a net loss.

my stale rate isn't even .00001% so it's not an issue.
Already made money off my ixc that I mine. If the other pool operators weren't so greedy this wouldn't be an issue.

But the greed of miners enabling a 51% attack for 0.05% higher profits is not an issue?

Nope because it's the developers fault not mine.

Good to know where your priorities lie.

why should I give a fuck? the developers obviously don't. (albeit one)

The DVC and IXC coins are basically lottery tickets that cost nothing. In theory they could explode in value in the future and the miners at ghash would profit, if they do not then the miners could simply sell the coins on an exchange and still make something off of the coins.

Can't I say cex.io is profitable because GHash is profitable. right ?

Yep, but this month some strange things have raised GHS price (hard market manipulation), and basically who have bought GHS two/three weeks ago can exit now with btc minted + profit.

It would be the opposite, ghash is profitable because of cex.io (they are the ones that sell the GHs)

Expecting lower GH price due to lower btc price now.

Stop using GHASH.IO ASAP, before everyone is injured.

Since the GH/s price is measured in bitcoin it would likely not be affected by the price of bitcoin

Many people base their purchasing calculations on the BTC/fiat exchange rate.

As far as when they are getting the BTC from fiat else, it should be ROI from miner or Profit from trading.

should != do :)

:) !

I've had similar results with both.  Personally I prefer eligius.

That is true but if you are buying something in BTC that will pay you in BTC the BTC/USD exchange rate should not matter.

should !== do

Boolean!

So anyways, I found the one Im mining on to be the most profitable...

ghash.io is the best.

GHASH.IO represents a very real danger to the BTC community.

They could potentially launch a 51% attack (even with ~40% of the hashrate) and essentially permanently crash the value of BTC

I'll pick ElIGIUS all day with CPPSRB if you mine for awhile and stick with it! you get paid for shelved shares from months ago which can be over twice to 3 times the worth of shares today and with a Pool Operator that is ACTIVE in the community and actually cares! You can't put a price on that ;) I'll take that anyday over making a measley couple % more on junk coins. There's more important things than making the most ROI in life! It all depends where your priorities in life are? Because a FOOl and his MONEY are always soon parted.........

https://i.imgur.com/aPeF50t.png

GHash.io is a threat to bitcoin.  No single pool should be allowed to get too large.
Eligius is great.  I would donate if you like it, they cannot run for free.  I put 1% to support a good pool.  Thats like not even $10/month for most of us. 

Both are good but currently mining on eligius...

ghash is fee free yes but you have to withdraw via cex which has some of the highest fees around! cex are activly telling people to mine elsewhere because they are not making enough money from everyones hardware, they want people to buy their 'cloud mining' so they can such the life out of everyones money. i left cex/ghash due to their fees eating up over 75% of mined btc even though they claim they do not take that much. as time goes on there will be more and more block at cex that you will gain a -ve reward at the time i left it was about a 1 in 10 where it cost me to mine with cloud that equated to a loss more than 20% of the time. they are turning into a scam site!

Hi ozycash, your information is not quite accurate.

GHash.IO pool fee is zero, this is correct.

CEX withdrawal fee is 0.0001 BTC and zero if you use the auto feature. These are not very high!!

We are a multi-service company, some of our users are independent miners, some use the cloud mining service, some are traders and some are all 3.

Cloud mining maintenance is $0.18 per 1 GHS per month.

GHASH.IO is better in my opinion