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UPDATE

- There is a bug in UNV protocol, and we need to develop a new protocol (but we already know the base of the new protocol).
- So we cancel the launch of UNV for the moment
- We will announce a day launch later, and keep you informed about the progress
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About UNV

UNV is the most exciting and ambitious project among all the cryptos since the creation of Bitcoin.

UNV is not another dump-coin-scrypt, hastily created in a anarchic and self-interested way. On the contrary, it is a well thought out project : a crypto currency that takes into account all the different factors and the positive economic actors that rule a society.

How to lead the masses to a general use of the cryptos, if these cryptos are not developed according to a logical strategy and an economic context, if it do not reflect the essential needs and parameters to the good functionning of our society ?

Here is the whole concept of UNV.

The 2 main and most innovative points of UNV :

-   UNV will have minimum value of 0.01 BTC, in order to follow the economic plans.
No trade Under this value will be possible on exchanges, so it will be Anti-dump-launch .

-   Anti – theft system :
Every UNV implied in any scam or theft will be suspended and withdrawn from circulation then reinstated after médiation (still in dev.).


The IPO is open right now, its return on investment is 200% one day before launch.
That really means, that for example for 1 BTC invested you will have 200 UNV (instead of 100 UNV), one day before the launch.

Every investment is insured up to 100%.
Minimum IPO invest is 1 BTC.


Every update will be marked in green.



WEBSITE
www.universal-coin.com (http://www.universal-coin.com)


COMMUNITY

Twitter @Universalcoin1


SPECIFICATIONS

- Algorythm : SCRYPT
With the coming of super ASIC-Scrypt miners, the scrypt will become ecologic and won’t let the GPU-miners stay back in the race, waiting to renewal their miners for ASIC.
- POW/POS
- Total coins : 20 billion
- POS rate : 1,5 %
- Block time : 60 seconds
- Difficulty retarget : Every hour
- Coins per block : 1902 UNV
- Premine :
-   0.5 % team
-   2 % for spreading, communication, faucets …
-   47.5% Held on a public address, on cold wallet, reserved for institutions and economic organizations.
- IPO : 0.01 % email us first at ipo@universal-coin.com WE USE ESCROW


WALLET

Windows/OSX/LINUX available at launch.

EXCHANGES

Will be traded on main exchanges, more in next update


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Email us at team@universal-coin.com


UNV : DUMP GAME IS OVER, TIME FOR A REAL CHANGE !

Note:

This Annonounce will be traduced in every local subforum:

- Poland
- Portugal
- Germany
- Netherland
- Romania
- Turkey
- China
- Arab
- India
- France
- Italia
- Spain
- Israël
- Finland
- Norway
- Sweden
- Serbia
- Austria
- Greece
- Russia
- Japan

You have recieved word from exchanges that they will place a fixed price limit on sells? In other words - The exchange will not allow users to sell below 0.01?

What if people won't buy for that price? Then we all have a bunch of coins unable to be sold?

Escrow?

setup a  pool for 0.5 BTC @
htttp://bondni.com

Let me know if you interested.

WELL DUH!!!


IT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO SELL BELOW .00000001  : LOL

total coins ; 20 Billion
and you are saying it can achieve a minimum value of 0.01 BTC
FACEPALM

UNV will be sold on exchanges for a 0.01BTC minimum.

Makes no sense to me either. If people want to sell it for less than 0.01 btc they will. Dont forget a 50% premine..

.01 is quite a bit more than .00000001.

You write like you're pretending to be professional.

Go back to the Chinese forums.


Pro-tip for people reading pseudo-English posts written by non-English speakers in the future:

They don't know how English formatting works, that's why they use spaces before punctuation like so:







And wtf is an economic organ?

20 billion coins isn't that large of a figure considering there are over 6 billion people in the world and as the population grows, at some point 20 billion coins becomes a small number when you think of distribution if everyone used them.

Even if you had a coin where equally distributed, you'd need 6+ billion of them for everyone in the world to be able to obtain 1.  

How big is the world mass monetary ?

interesting idea

OMG! THEN THAT MUST MEAN THAT DOGE IS THE CURRENCY OF THE FUTURE, AMIRITE?

20.000.000.000 UNV x 0.01 BTC = 200.000.000 BTC

WTF! ;D

not most ambitious project, but seems most nonsense project for me

waiting for dumb people join IPO  ;D

You can also sell 1$ for 0.05$ if you want and happy with that ...
Nobody will you use the premine according to the economic plans.

lmao,

no sense, 1 UNV = 0.01 BTC hahaheha

interesting idea but it's fruitless unless there are buyers.

I'm sitting on 23,000,000 CCX coins and there's not one buyer anywhere.

a coin ONLY has value if there's a buyer and that my friends - you can never guarantee!

:)

Every ambitious projects seemed nonsense, just take a look at the history, didn't you learn from history ?

What about flying in the air with airplane, to the moon, every technologies, medecines, BITCOIN ... remember the earth was supposed to be flat.

Were you the kind of guy who burned the witches ?  :D

So you think the historical advance of progress for the entirety of mankind guarantees the success of your project?

Go fuck yourself.


EVERYONE ELSE: IN CASE YOU HAVEN'T FIGURED IT OUT,

THIS IS A FUCKING SCAM.

they've changed the world because they have innovations
so i ask you, what kind of innovation does UNV have?
What makes this coin is different from the others?

I'm going to launch a coin with an IPO, minimum investment is you must let me piss in your mouth no less than 2 times.

Pisscoin.

Still better than UNV

Can't you read ?
It's all written in the ANN (specially in the subject line)

Way to impress!

Thanks for the tips ...

What is economic organs ?? really ?

Don't you know about school, hospitals, institutions, these kind of things ... just the essentials for a society to stand.

And yes I'm not a native English speaker, my bad ... sorry for that ;D

So if I get economic blood poisoning, will all of my schools and hospitals get economic organ failure?

I'm assuming organs is short for organizations. But, it should probably be fully spelled out.

I hereby imply your 50% premine in a scam.  Please suspend and withdraw these coins from circulation and let me know when the mediation will start.

A digital currency with charge backs. Who adjudicates this? Who decides what was a scam? More info needed.

Informations will be given before the launch, it's still in dev.
There is many options for this, key systems and so ... ;)

Will there be an Escrow for this IPO?

When the transmitter? logo looks good, the number of coins is also more appropriate to wait digging!

does that make them evil?

How many coins are pre-mined and where's does the rest of the pre-mine go?

- Premine :
-   0.5 % team
-   2 % for spreading, communication, faucets …
-   47.5% Held on a public address, on cold wallet, reserved for institutions and economic organizations.
- IPO : 0.01 % email us first at ipo@universal-coin.com

That only equals 50.01%???

Not even going to tell you guys how big of a scam this is. Figure it out.

Hint: The premine is bigger than the coins that'll be mined within the next decade or two.

Has the premine been withdrawn from circulation?  If not, why not? 

Yes. Yes, it does.

Yes, Stored on a cold wallet.


So do you think BTC is a scam too ?

NO? well, where are the 1 million BTC + of Satoshi  ?

What about NXT ? is it really a scam too ?

So many examples, stop people thinking everything is scam.

I know there is a lot of scam (too much !!), but there's also people with good intentions and real plans.

Crypto is not just a geek business... It's much more than just create a program on a computer.

Dutch-land? where on earth is that?

Netherland ... just open an history book and you will know where it comes from.

My bad.

Website looks great - still a work in progress, but that's expected.

Yes it is.

Premine is 50,01%, the rest is to be mined. (1902 UNV/block) lucky first miners ! ;))

exciting and ambitious project!

a nice website

welcome back edgecoin scam creator
another well done IPO scam atempt

I'll keep an eye on this project, wondering If this will get any investors :)

So 1 UNV = 0.005 BTC  :-\

You only have to invest 9.5 BTC in the IPO to get UNV equal to ONE SINGLE BLOCK of this coin.

Whoever misses out on this opportunity is really not that smart  ;)

Watching this.

minimum investment is you must let me piss in your mouth :)

And which crystal globe is telling you this?
The coin will be sold at the price people will be wanting to both buy and sell..

Plus the numbers are ridiculous , this coin would end up having a market cap lager than BTC

ESCROW?

+1 great post.

Haha, minimal IPO investment 1BTC and you offer a minimal value of UNV set to 0,01BTC HOW?

fucking scam, close this crap

Even when trying to correct yourself, you still can't get it right (Netherland)....

You know they have invented this thing now, its called google, it will tell you how to spell correctly!!!!!!

https://www.google.com/search?q=netherland (https://www.google.com/search?q=netherland) You should try it one day  ;D

Nobody said anything about 'withdrawing' those coins. They said the pre-mined coins are in 'cold wallet'

The original post says: "Every UNV implied in any scam or theft will be suspended and withdrawn from circulation then reinstated after médiation (still in dev.)."

Mind you, since there is no conditional in the statement it would appear that every "suspended" coin will be "reinstated" anyway ...

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Total coins : 20 billion

And you expect 0.01 btc.

minimum investment ipo of 1 btc?

thats a joke anyone falling for that deserve to lose his money.

Does this "cold wallet" mean they are ready to be dropped on the market as soon as there is one sucker placing a buy order?

So 0.01BTC..

Of course no one will want to buy any of this premined coin at that price so you will get no buyers, and lots of sellers.

As for making it impossible - are you going to check every message everyone sends?

I'm not sure you have really thought this through - or maybe you have, and you just want to cash in the premine.

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You posted in the wrong topic ...

cool looking graphics

20 billion coins at 0.01 btc = 200,000,000 Bitcoins


200,000,000 at today price of $493.00BTC is $98,620,000,000
98 billion dollars  :o

I hope nobody is falling for this SCAM

First,

Are you aware about the world mass monetary ?

Why 0.01 BTC? Why not 0.1 BTC? Or 1.2345 BTC?

Good luck with your shitcoin  >:(

school coin?it is the popular recently?

Escrow = yes

The coin will be sold at the price people will be wanting to both buy and sell..

No because people need to know a sure value for each things, such as what we can buy with 1$ for example.
People fear to invest in crypto because of the dump.

HERE NO DUMP WILL BE POSSIBLE, investment 100% guaranteed

20 billion coins for 0.01BTC each coin ,are you cryzy ?
20 billion coins maybe only 0.1sat only

If you think twice, if crypto projects will be very designed to absorb whole mass monetary, well it must be such a calculation.

But all crypto projects are only dump coin and offer nothing to change the society.

Just think about it in real economic way  ;)

How about you answer the question, "in a real economic way" ... How will you guarantee a minimum value of 0.01 BTC?

He is basing his assumption on the thing that he wants to sell the coins at the price of 0.01 each.
By this people won't be interested in selling lower and going at a loss , thus maintaining an artificially inflated price.

The only problem is that there might be no buyers and some of the owners will start selling to cut loses , which will brake this artificial wall.

Maybe you are right, but the OP says:


Which suggests something quite different, but there appears to be no response to this question, so ...  ???

I was telling how this might work technically , not that it is really possible in real life.
With a free market any trade is possible somebody could do it below just to prove it can be done.

If I were to think about what the dev is saying he has two options:
1) the is just saying that to attract investors or buyers and to dump on them
2) he plans to open an exchange where the coin i traded and prevent others to do so. like ntx was traded for a while or ripple.

But both plans will end in failure.

Are you crazy! ! ! Absolute liar. . .

Russian topic - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=619379.0

The point you don't understand guys on UNV, is that UNV hasn't been thought for speculation and trading .

The PBM is that you only think in terms of benefits, but the UNV project is only thought to be a real alternative to $, €, £ (...), and the only fact that UNV will be 0.01 BTC (equivalent) is enough for the economic plans.

As for example when you buy any product in a shop, you will buy it to only use it, not for sell it for an extra value or sell it under the price, but just use it.

As the same when you exchange $ for €, you don't expect to make benefit for that (uless you're an $/€ trader of course!!), but just need € in order to pay things if you go to Europe.

That's as simple as that.

In fact we don't really need it to be more than 0.01BTC, but if it goes up it, well, good, but it won't change anything to the plans.

Got it ?

STOP ALWAYS THINKING IN A BUSINESS WAY.  ;)

I take it that's a no, then?  You can't answer the question.

Do you mean UNV can take the place of the (petro) dollar?
(The petro-dollar used to have the premier currency reserve status and was accepted everywhere.)

Funniest coin I've seen in a while. You just have to admire the sheer ignorance of his grandiose plans.
"This coin is worth 0,01 BTC! Because I said so!"

 ;D ;D ;D

Thanks for the entertainment, but no thanks.

Yes of course (Sometimes we need to speak with simple-words - Petro-Dollar is not understandable for everybody  ;)


The minimum value will be guaranteed on exchange.
Of course people could sell it under value peer to peer if they want but ...
Who really gonna sell UNV under its value knowing that he could sell it on exchanges for a 0.01BTC minimum ? (stupid people yes ... :D)

How will its value on an exchange be "guaranteed"?

In simple words, you won't be able to write under 0.01BTC when placing selling/buying orders, on exchanges platforms.

So, ignoring for the moment that you will need any participating exchange to enforce that somehow ... since you are offering the IPO coins at half that price - 0.005 per UNV - you are promising to double the money of every IPO investor?

Do you see a possible flaw there?

You mae even less sense with this.
What do you plan on doing .. selling the uv at 0.01 btc and offering services in uv at this rate?

Are you able to run this kind of operation?
And even if you are able to do this , there is another flaw in your thinking.

Even the  the dollar the euro are oscillating , how can you fix the price?

In a free market , you can't do it.

Honestly , I think we should stop bothering with him.

The idea of trying to maintain btc price has failed and was rejected by the community and how this guy with no economical insight want to try a failed project all over again.

It's just advertise for this ipo , nothing else than a publicity stunt.

Italian translation here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=618888

I'm Glad to announce German translation for this thread : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=619125.msg6853052#msg6853052

20 billion coins times minimum value of 0.01 BTC equals 200 million bitcoin. There will be maximum 21 million bitcoin in existence when it is mined fully. Do you know what i am getting at dev?

Romanian translation https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=619070.msg6870064#msg6870064

If a joke coin like doges has been noticed and used in popular websites, why you can't trust this project?
I'm interested in this project!

It's certainly possible to design exchange software that would enforce a minimum price, but does the existing software have that capability? Has the developer contacted the exchanges and asked them whether they can set a minimum price for all trades of a particular coin? If he hasn't done this yet, he better do it. If they say no, that blows his idea for this coin.

TURKISH TRANSLATION = https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=619180

While translating i see some good points of this coin , i guess there will be a blast.

Here are 2 scenario's where an IPO investor would loose.

1. Investor buys a large amount of UNV and plans to sell them at double the price paid at an exchange, but there are no buyers.

2. Investor buys a large amount of UNV and plans to sell them at double the price paid at an exchange, but when the investor later looks at the exchange price, he sees that it's far below what he paid at the IPO. He contacts the exchange and asks how that is possible since the coin has a minimum price. The exchange responds that they have no power to set prices and the prices are determined by the market.

Indian (Hindi) Translation:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=619047

Even if an exchange is willing to enforce a minimum buy price, that doesn't mean there are buyers. So, your coins being automatically worth double what you paid is a wish. A coin is only worth what someone will pay for it RIGHT NOW. That's why I am surprised that most exchanges list the "last" price as the price. Normally a stock is listed at the current BID.

ITALIAN translation: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=618888.msg6851710

JAPANESE translation: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=877.msg6847770#msg6847770

No flaw.
For the moment as UNV isn't launched yet, we can do such an offer.



When you say "fix the price", IF you only think about BTC equivalent, then yes it is fixed, but BTC as a $ value too, so oscillating.
So no UNV is not "fixed" in absolute.

Let's take a simple example: (in a near futur)

The trust of people is absolute and then it is recognized around the world that 1 UNV is 0.01 BTC (equivalent because BTC wouldn't exist anymore, if such a scenario...), fiduciary currencies have disappeared.
Everybody do transactions and pay in UNV.
Everybody know that you can buy with 1 UNV 1 OZ of flour (for example).

This value of the flour, is based on the work produced to get it.

Then if one summer there is a storm that destroy half of the world harvest of wheat, then the price will up and 1 OZ can jump to 2 UNV.

So in any case every currency is oscillating.

End of example --------

Fix the price at 0.01 BTC, is a point of reference for people as a first step (to bring them to crypto),  then if UNV is taken as universal currency and over currencies disappears ( AND ONLY IN THIS CASE !!!!) then of course it will be oscillating.

We all need to know the value of something before investing or buying.
The main idea of UNV is to bring mass people to crypto, to make them know that there is a better world possible with crypto system !

This topic start to be very interesting  ;)

This is so retarded...
20 billion 0.01 BTC = 200 million BTC...

Some people here can't understand things... definitely.

Just add all the cryptos existing, and calculate the equivalent in BTC and tell me if it's more than 21 million BTC ...

IT'S ONLY A POINT OF REFERENCE, an equivalent value, it's only a question of trust.

This project Is pretty interesting, waiting for the launch.

20 Bil UNV sounds a lot but I found this project pretty interesting too, might try the IPO, also can't wait to see the exchanges that accepts UNV because I'm willing to invest some BTC :)

Thanks for the support !  ;)


Well, ... it could happen earlier than you expected ...  ;)

Will the coin be listed on popular exchanges from launch day itself?

So 0.01BTC..

Of course no one will want to buy any of this premined coin at that price so you will get no buyers, and lots of sellers.

As for making it impossible - are you going to check every message everyone sends?

I'm not sure you have really thought this through - or maybe you have, and you just want to cash in the premine.

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Where did you read that premined is for sell ?!?

ROFL ... in the OP you say ...


So you are offering to sell the premine coins at 0.005 each ...

(and just to remind you that is HALF the claimed MINIMUM value for UNV ...)

Lets give this coin a shot dear community!

Some don't dare to believe IPO! Always feel that might be a hoax!

Yes it's only for the IPO, As we are devs we can do such a thing BUT when UNV will be sold on exchanges, then it will be 0.01 BTC minimum value.

So given that you are selling the premine coins as part of the IPO, and you announced the fact, why the question about where they were being sold?

Any chance of getting an answer as to how the minimum value will be enforced?

First of all UNV has a 0.01 BTC value to have a point of reference of value in the crypto community.
Then it will have also a value in $,€, £, Yuan, Yen  as every worthed crypto.

So it will be tradable with fiat currencies also, in this order UNV doesn’t need to absorb whole BTC amount.

Remember the main goal of UNV is to absorb whole world mass monetary and not just the 21 M of BTC.

portuguese thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=619602.0

I see the 200 coins IPO more 100 coins giveaway for the IPOers than you buying the coin for half price, your reward for being a pioneer.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/16846826/banner%20countdown.png (http://www.cryptolaunch.net/universalcoin.html)

Thanks !  ;)

Hi what are your arguments to say so ? Are you a dev. from another coin project ? :D

If people could think twice before posting bullshits it could help ...

Hi,

I didn't want to post it on the official topic, but I had no reply about the IPO.
My ticket is number 483.

Could you help please ?

OMG , What is It ?

No. Just no. The value is determined by supply and demand, if no-one wants to buy UNV at 0.01 BTC then it does not have that value, whatever the dev claims.

+1. Only market demand can determine the real value.

This looks nice! :)

Hi Eron,

Everything's ok, check your email.
We are just a little team for the moment, so things take a little bit time.

As I saw that you're French you can follow us in the Local-French too, because we are french (in part...).

A bientôt !  ;)

Hey guys,

Do you really know how works Fiat currencies value?

Because it has nothing to do with supplying and demand, in case you don't know.

Unv is one step ahead all this, the plan is to absorb whole mass monetary and not to be "just" another crypto.

You almost made me spit out the water I was drinking while I read that haha

Yeah it's still retarded logic as you are unable to defend it but to close your ears, call everyone dumb and think this is going to work.

Trust me, this is retarded.

EDIT: My point was not that it is more BTC than the max supply of BTC, it's just that you expect your coin to be worth ~ $70 billion at the start.In case you don't knowings hows doesing the fiatings workings(that is sarcastic, yes), it is fully determined by supply and demand.

It is a little bit more complicate than that ... :D

See, you still avoid the main question and try to prove your point with pseudo intelligent responses that do not respond to the main thing people want to know: Why do you think that anyone is interested in this, why anyone would buy at 0.01, why anyone would enforce 0.01 and one i would like to add: Why do you think your outdated clone of a coin, which brings no innovation whatsoever, would be worth even a penny?

This is so obviously a scam... Either that or you should be in a mental institution.

Why do you think that anyone is interested in this, why anyone would buy at 0.01, why anyone would enforce 0.01?
[/quote]

Here is the answer:

Because people fear to loose money, so they don't want to invest in a crypto, if they think they can loose money.
But if they are sure that there is a minimum value then they will trust in the project.

Because UNV has a real economic goal, so this minimum value is required.

How to make an exchange if we don’t know the value of both items ?
Just take a look at the gold or petrol, we know its equivalent value in $ …

If we want to build a real economic plan, then we need to go that way and not the speculate one.
We have to start somewhere with something, here is what UNV offers.

About innovation, yes innovations are goods !
But we have to know what to do with, how to do with, develop a plan.

No crypto have real economic plans, not even BTC.

WOW!!!
I've read this whole thread and my head wants to EXPLODE!!!!!  :-[
Based on today's BTC value = $578 per 1.0BTC

Ok...so.... 1 UNV = 0.01BTC = $5.78
Your claiming your 20 Billion UNV has a value = to $115,600,000,000 ($115.6 Billion USD).
Of that $115.6 Billion USD value you have mined 50% already... which = $57,800,000,000 ($57.8 Billion USD).

Sooooo.... Please help my stupid, uneducated mind grasp this great concept of yours?

I'll lay down easy questions that you can easily reply to and help myself and others understand.
Here we go...

1) What Exchanges have you talked to that have agreed to lock in the value of 1 UNV = 0.01BTC?

2) Please explain to us long time traders how "Supply and Demand" really works and how it relates to your argument that 1 UNV will unequivocally equal 0.01BTC once released?

3) What happens when UNV goes live on the exchanges (assuming they agree to a locked rate) and no one buys 1 UNV to 0.01BTC rate? Then what? Is the value still there?

4) What is UNV economic goal and plans besides Global Currency take over?

5) What if the Exchanges don't agree to lock in a 1 UNV to 0.01BTC value? Then What? How can you, as the coin developer, promise and ensure your 1 UNV will still be equal to 0.01BTC? Based just on your word?

6) Please explain how all the people in this world already have the exact same view and values as yours... and how your views and values conform to us? I failed Sociology class in College so any help would be appreciated  ;) I'm trying to find the connection between what you perceive as a value (for UNV) and how others will have the exact same opinion as you, no questions asked?

7) Please help me to understand your statement... "Remember the main goal of UNV is to absorb whole world mass monetary and not just the 21 M of B"?  How would this NOT also absorb BTC?
Please check over my math, it's been a LONG LONG time since I've been to class... so if 20 Billion UNV equals to 200 Million BTC...and there is a cap of only 21 Million BTC EVER, then isn't 200 Million still greater than 21 Million?
So to achieve a value of 200 MillionBTC with only 21 MillionBTC to ever be supplied, then each BTC would have to equal a USD value of $5,504 by time of UNV coin launch (less than 2 weeks from today!!).

Also PART 2 of this question is... how do you plan to absorb the whole world mass monetary supply? Last I check, in 2013 the USD world circulation alone was $10.3 TRILLION... yes... TRILLION !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That's just the USD itself, not including the rest of the world currencies!!
So... if that's the case...please explain why your coin should be worth $515 per UNV (USD takeover) over any other crypto-coin? Just because you say so?



You don't need to answer all the questions I have listed... but please, at least give us a firm answer for questions #1 and #5 ;D

Thanks for your time!! I have to clean my exploded head off the floor before any stains setup in my carpet  :D :D :D :D
 

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So, the great master plan of this coin is to make it worth 0.01 BTC by intentionally forbidding trades below this value?
You must be out of your mind if you think that this will work. Of course you dont think so, and this is why I call this a scam.

It is completely unbelievable that threads like these exist and I am afraid that some people might actually fall for that.
The bigger problem in this picture is that if this coin actually starts (which I would not believe even if I see it, most probably everything will end up after the IPO) it will turn from scam to a pure ponzi.

also, all of this:

You missed another point.
What is somebody clones the idea of UNV and does it 1000 times , like it happened to bitcoin.
We will then have $115.6 Billion USD multiplied by 100 or 1000. =)))

Looks like we're printing money out of thin air faster than the central bank.

What I've missed so far? printing money out of air? really?
Let's talk about darkcoin for example, even DRK is 0.014 at the moment... so what? how max there is out there?

Honestly, i think we all under-estimate this coin..


This is quite possibly the funniest thread I've ever seen.

Dev has quite literally tried to get away with a $57.8 billion PREMINE

Where are the irrational claims to go with this ludicrous premine? Surely dev must be doing something with the money?

You could buy ever member of BTC talk forums a Ferrari with that sort of money.

I'm sorry, i never post things like this, but this is just ridiculous.

If dev is trying to be funny, he succeded.

 :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

Somehow I think this will still make him money..

20 Billion coins @ .01 BTC. To start with!!!! This is definitely the boldest delusion of grandeur yet.

What does he mean with "No trade Under this value will be possible on exchanges" ?!?
Thats quite impossible since there will be like 20 Bil coins, DEV is hoping for a market cap similar to Google, yet being far far away form Google.

Be carefull investing on this

Ok so, the EU can't convice UK to change there currency to euros but your project will manage to make every country change there currencies to UNV..
Me winning the lotery without buying a ticket is more likely to happen than UNV becoming the worlds currency.

Also you talk alot about trust, but who do you think trusts in a coin with that big of a premine?

this is a copy of hashdollar  ::)

UPDATE:

A new pool will be set for UNV:

http://xhash.net (http://xhash.net)

That's very funny...

How somebody could get away in the nature with $57.8 billion dollars, just give me a plan I'm interested (sarcastic).
What about the BTC premine of Satoshi ?
NEXT ?
Ripple ?

No definitely not, it is impossible to get away with such an amount, or maybe if it is planned to go on another planet than jail  :D


Flomess,

the PBM of people like you (and we can see it clearly in your post) is that you only see crypto in terms of benefits and trading.

We just don't give a fuck about capitalization, about google and other capitalistic things !

So my questions are (and for all the people who think like you)

- Do you really believe in crypto for changing the world, or are you just here to make benefits ?
- Are you really here to help the crypto community ?

I already know the answers.


If you can read, this premine is just useful for such an economic plan.

What will happen with BTC ?

Do you really think that countries have bought some BTC for the moment ?

What will happen when everybody have bought the 21 M of BTC, and that States won't have any BTC ?

Do you think they will say "ok let's use BTC ?? ... do you have people some to give us ?"

Do you think that States will found every public administrations in BTC or just think "oh nop.. we don't have any BTC in our wallet .. sorry we gonna still use $ as usual".

What about all the people and each companies who won't have BTC in theirs wallets ? you let them die ?

Here is the answer of the premine.


EMAILTOOAJ

Answer to you soon, don't worry  ;)

it looks very interested i will buy some if you use any escrow service

Of course we use ESCROW !


Please send an email to ipo@universal-coin.com

We have see other coins who guaranteed value before launching and they are vanished from the seen after the launch.

So what makes you think this can be success

How does the dev guarantee 0.01BTc rate.Does he have that much money behind the coin otherwise there is nothing extra ordinary about this it.

No other coin (that vanished) has promised value addition such as UNV, anti-theft feature being one of them.



Simply put, no exchange will allow you to trade this coin below that value.
But if you consider the future scope of this coin, you'll never want to trade it below this value either.

The anti-theft "procedure" that you are listing directly implies a centralized authority on the "coin/currency." *Someone/They/Them/An Entity* would be "reviewing" alleged fraud transactions and "taking those coins out of circulation"???? That hurts the victim sender...then it also lowers the supply *even for a short time* which results in artificial inflation...And that exact centralized authority would have unrestricted control of the "flow" of the coin/currency...No different than any *insert capitalist government here* wants now...

Your anti-fraud feature is flawed...and thus, one of your largest selling points in null and void...

I just want to make sure I understand the OP correctly....So you want to create a huge supply of a coin/currency, then set the price to an artificially high minimum, then control how much it can sell for (and enforce this through the ability of suspending transactions of the private parties involved), and then *just to make sure everyone knows your properly fucking your investors the ass* you want to have 50% of it all under your control from day 1...

Got it! I will now go punch myself in the nuts till I am man enough to admit that I shouldn't have even glorified this thread with a response....Cheers mate!

i have send you email please check it

wait.. 20 billion coins at .01 btc?? seriously?? ROFL.. NEXT! someone failed math class. u will not get that kind of investment in crypto for another 50 years.

Well... after 4 days I'm still awaiting my answers (and I'm sure along with everyone else reading this thread  :P).
I hope I didn't frazzle you too much?

Did I?  ??? ??? ???

Maybe he ran out of Kool-Aid and picked up an Economics book?

This coin is a wonderful advertisement for cryptocurrency. When you realize how much UniversalCoin has in common with the US dollar, you will run out and buy more Bitcoin.

Are you serious, man?
Do you have any idea how economy works?
Have you ever heard of something, whatever it is, that has such a high demand that the supply gets terminated? Your posts make no sense whatsoever.
You, making an "economic plan" looks to me like a kid building a Lego castle

I think your IPO is FAR to cheap, and the total number of coins is FAR to low.

Because at the moment, the 0.01% you have allocated for the IPO works out to be a mere 20,000 BTC

Which is almost nothing for all your hard work copying, I'm sorry, I mean developing this coin.

May I suggest a minimum price of 1000 BTC per UNV, total coins should be AT LEAST 1 Decillion, with ALL the pre-mine being used for the IPO. This will ensure that your hard work is fully rewarded, and enable you to enjoy some of life's luxuries, such as solid gold shoes, and being Emperor of the Universe.

After all, you deserve it!

Another pool will be set for UNV athttp://www.zpool.co/ (http://www.zpool.co/) :)

 ;D

We are currently working hard on implementation.
Need to solve some things.

When everything will be set, I will explain in details the system. ;)

Don't worry.

We only worry about your sanity. If you weren't crazy, this thread wouldn't even be half as fun.

What will you do if someone starts a forum post attempting to sell a UNV for 0.00999BTC? :o

Is that one of the actions that will trigger coins being suspended and withdrawn from circulation?

How will you find out which coin was sold for the illegal price so that you can ban that coin?

One one possible answer... OP WORKS FOR THE NSA!!! UNV is the US Gov plan to pay off the national debt.

Good news everyone! They are working hard on implementation and only need to solve some things...  ;D

Implementation? Shit, son. It's on now.

https://i.imgur.com/MS95emO.jpg

 
hey there dev, can i be the escrow please  ;D i will only charge .01%  ;)  if your estimates are correct (ROFPMSL) that would net me a cool $58,000,000 :o i'm in.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA




owyeah...


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

This is a joke. If you buy into this you don't deserve to lose your money but if you could consider removing yourself from the equation... it'd be appreciated...  ::)

Haha, this is madness. I've seen many things in my short experience with crypto, but this one beats everything hands down.

Basically the dev is telling everyone that this coin market cap will be bigger than bitcoin, just because he says so.

20 Billion coin?   :o  ;D  ::)

You should check older altcoins that have already died and are buried in the > 100 page range.
The were lots of idiots like the op claiming the same both in december and in may when most of altcoins were born.

And there will be soon another one.

Hello everyone,
I'm part of the Universal Coin development team and I'm here to ask any questions you have about the coin. There is planned stuff, so watch this thread closely.
-Universal Coin Team

id like to Add a question if i may , the Ipo u sell gets 200% instead of 100% right so that would be .02 so the second u buy the ipo your money basicly doubles in value though your garantee?
where and how would this money be created ? in theory you could garantee the .01 price by just sitting on the btc but where do you get the extra 100% from ?

This dev is a RETARD!

the idea has merit unfortunantly a 50% premine and IPO

is all I need to know

Either this guy is completley stupid or is a kid either way

only an idiot would waste electricity on this

Hello, What is your proof of that is the same person or it's a scam? Also the person could just have the same idea as the Hashdollar. It doesn't affect you. It doesn't fucking kill you, so if you think it's a scam here is something I think of your opinion. http://i0.wp.com/memecollection.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/Whattodowithyouropinion-91961.png?w=900
Actually it isn't a scam. How is it?

HAHAHAHAHAHA

Didn't think I'd be able to reuse this image so quickly:

https://i.imgur.com/H6SygUZ.jpg

your coins brother --> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=639549.0 ;D

Some people here have so serious projects, that they don't even investigate to see if the name of their coin already exist (or nearly).

This coin creator must be very stupid.

Please, stop telling bullshits.

We don't even know who is behind Hashdollar, and don't care about this project.

If you don't know what to do in your life, than just spitting bullshits here, TV is your best friend.

So If you want to investigate, do it right before posting asshole.

And for your information UNV - Brazil is just a translator.

Hey man what's wrong with you ??

THECOLDQUASAR is really in the dev team of UNV.
And no he is not native English/american speaker, and me too, but is the fact to be a non native English speaker makes us Scamers ??

Sorry to speak so rude, you must be 8 years old to have such prejudice.

Go back watching TV it's disney time.  :D

Fuck you and all UNV Team... all you is the same person, all accounts is new, low activity.
ALL ACCOUNTS IS FAKE!

COMUNNITY! search, who is this guy??


Vá se foder você e toda sua equipe da UNV! Todas as contas relacionadas à equipe é da mesma pessoa!
Tony você é um Filho da puta lazarento, seu bosta! ainda vindo aqui na comunidade de cryptos encomodar todo mundo, e atrapalhar o desenvolvimento das cryptos com esse SEU SCAM!
Vai te foder seu LIXO!
_|_

LOL a scammer calling me a racist.

Don't you think that clear, effective, and understandable communication is a key element of being even remotely "universal?" If your project had real backing, you could at least afford to hire an English-speaking stranger on the internet to write for you.

Or you could just answer some of the questions that have been put to you in a perfectly reasonable manner. How about that for starters?

The fact that you speak with us and reply to all of our posts, is that we speak enough english clearly, in order to make us understandable, no ?

Sorry we don't have such enough money to pay for English translation, we 'd better bet on real ideas and dev.

So now if you just want to troll here because your life is just empty as your balls after wranking off on porn.com then just go and fuck yourself, but if you want to ask just interesting questions, then your welcome.

Now it's enough we won't respond to all of your troll posts.

Yes Tertius, but the fact is that we are still working on it, and then we can't for the moment respond to technical questions as we are not sure ourselves about this.

We are not here to scam people, so we won't tell and promise bullshits that we can't hold.  ;)

UNV What about the launch? Is everything ready for it and will it be on time? Or you working on the coin could delay it?

It's funny that you only respond by calling everything troll posts when you don't answer any important questions whatsoever.

Let's try this again:

But you have already promised that it will be "The 0.01 BTC minimum value coin" so by your own terms you must know how that will be delivered, start by explaining how the minimum value will be guaranteed?  In particular for exchange based trades.

I'd also point out that you have made quite a number of promises (minimum value; anti-theft system; IPO insurance; use of escrow) and your launch date is two days away, so frankly if it is all pie in the sky, and you are actually serious then if I were you I would pull this whole thread and come back when I had some substance and some answers.

Wow... This must be the lamest scam attempt. Dev is promising things that are obviously not possible.

if i mining 100000 UNV = i have 1000 btc .. wow very currency many coins ....  ::)  ::)  ::)  ::)  :-* tony

From your site:


These are 2 promises that you dont even know how to keep, aka they're bullshit.

Nothing special

UPDATE:

- There is a bug in UNV protocol, and we need to develop a new protocol (but we already know the base of the new protocol).
- So we cancel the launch of UNV for the moment
- We will announce a day launch later, and keep you informed about the progress

Thanks to everyone who follow us and believe in this project! ;)

Oh no! Not a flaw in your price-fixing scheme! Whatever will you do?


http://youtu.be/JwZwkk7q25I?t=36s

"I'm here to ask any questions"
I think you meant to answer any questions.
Also I'm not sure you meant I'm here.

"There is planned stuff"
Again, is this really what you meant??

OK. So what do you have to say about the progress?

                                                            Almost there!!!

http://shrani.si/f/2f/Zq/4OshoZvm/calendar-forum-logo.jpg (https://www.altcoincalendar.info/coins/477-UNV)

It's OK, I shall be buying with my own yet to be developed coin, which I have declared to have a minimum value of 1 million BTC.  Sadly my coin does not support fractions of a coin, whole units only, but I am happy to accept change in BTC ... so I'll take a million UNV and 990,000 BTC in change.

UNV will have minimum value of 0.01 BTC...
for me are impossible control a value of coin, if i like sell for 1 satoshi ?  ;D

hows the IPO going? :)

20 billion of coin, for 0,11 btc value minimun to one coin  ;D

Launch today?

Hilarious thread  ;D

Please note the launch was already delayed, it is still on track to be released in 10 minutes. The official pool will start running around 5-10 minute's after, please get your wallet's synced and ready for action!

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Preview:
https://i.imgur.com/susFxWR.png

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Download:

Windows: Click Me (http://ge.tt/api/1/files/1dmvNlj1/0/blob?download)

Oh... :o I'm so sorry, my bad!

No problem, if I am honest with you I regret helping the dev, he should be online right now but guess what he's AFK. As soon as he get's back the coin will launch I can promise you.

hmm Windows qt ?

Hmmm... so I still didn't get any of my original questions answered. I feel safe to say that I'm not the only one on this thread wanting answers to my same questions.
Maybe you've been busy and just didn't see my original post.
So I'll post it again, just in case!!!!







Hope this helps!!!

Dev afk? No way!

this coin doesn't work with asic miiners?

pool.mn is rejecting all of my shares

Don't waste your time trying to mine this.

why?

Because it's a waste of time  ;D

thanks but I will make that decision not you...and I was considering using you for a coin and actually visited your website but it appears you have some sort of axe to grind so you are clearly not for me...

Lol what? Dude no offence, but what the hell are you talking about?  ;D Did you read any of the posts in this thread?  ;D

If we add to some list, I will keep voting.

It is a waste of time.... This coin is GARBAGE.

Haha he probably left before losing his credibility in your project.

Hmmm I know that few antivirus get false positive with some wallets but I really do not trust this wallet.

https://www.virustotal.com/fr/file/de990489f324910eaf9086f59ee86adf0e5f9f40fb3cc451c82a3a09f8539ada/analysis/1402372443/

the short answer is NO - not interested in reading 8 or 9 pages of posts and there's no need to keep sending me PM's when all you originally had to say is this "Coin has not launched yet" instead of responding with  "Waste of time" and refusing to simply answer my question "why"....

often a direct answer is the best answer. I have no time for games or idle chatter, mining is not a game to me....seriously ...and I'm not a "Dude".... ::)

Have a great day! :)

You take this mining thing so seriously that you don't read about the coins you're going to mine?

Fucking idiot.

yep - that's me... LOL

I always find it entertaining when someone suffers from a lack of vocabulary skills they resort to name calling.


and by the may I might add then when a coin is delayed the dev normally posts it in the opening thread...and revises their countdown timer...

the countdown timer had expired and the the very first pool I visited showed two miners and hash rates - so it was not out of the ordinary for me to assume that mining was going on...

it was late, I was tired and I was just trying to get one of miner mining this coin and couldn't understand why all the shares were being rejected when the coin clearly said 'scrypt'.

I simple answer to my question would have avoided all this...

have a nice day :)

You said yourself that you don't want to read 8-9 pages, then you say you take this mining thing seriously.

You want vocabulary? This situation is known as a contradiction. Your statements don't align with each other.

And that makes you a fucking idiot.

have a nice day - we have differing views but since you've taken it upon yourself to name call - that's really your problem not mine..

I guess this means we won't be swapping spit and taking showers together: LOL

I don't understand, launch are delay ?

it appears so even  though a pool I visited was showing activity...

The dev posted here saying that it will be canceled and a new date will be announced. It's even in the OP. I wonder what those "issues in the protocol" could be.

That currency will be known for 3 things:

• Delays;
• Lies;
• False Promises;

I will come to know the end of this story.

Tony, vai tomar no cú. Seu merda!

Pool.mn?
Maybe because I take time to study what I'm going to mine, I quickly noticed that the block mined by the pool was giving a reward of 0.25 coins. Obviously they were not mining UNV. My bet is on UniverseCoin, an X11 coin.

That's why I want to mine few coins. I want to be a part of the history.  ;D

with 1000 unv you have 10 btc  :o easy easy hahahahahahah

LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL :D

Ver essa frase em português no meio desta confusão toda foi lindo :D

So? The new protocole?
Please keep posting, you are really entertaining.  :D

There is only one coin with controllable price .... and she called NXT! Not worth more than 0.10 or $ 0.50 maybe.