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Title: [Debunked] Definitive proof that Satoshi Nakamoto is James A. Donald.
Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on May 28, 2014, 08:04:51 AM
http://www.mail-archive.com/cryptography%40metzdowd.com/msg09959.html

https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3714/14289076985_68679ed70d.jpg

http://www.mail-archive.com/cryptography%40metzdowd.com/msg09963.html

https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3685/14289061745_9e1a638f47.jpg

http://www.mail-archive.com/cryptography%40metzdowd.com/msg09964.html

https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3801/14289093755_d88d3c1907.jpg

https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3801/14285777731_a949ccbf65.jpg

That's my definitive proof clearly showing that Satoshi Nakamoto is indeed James A. Donald, unless I'm missing something so obvious like: Satoshi Nakamoto is so God-like, not only was he at his computer, at the ready, for the first question pertaining to Bitcoin, but when it finally arrived one day later, he not only was able to read the content, but fired up a detailed response, then click post, all within...wait for it...42 seconds.

I can only imagine Satoshi jumping into his DeLorean E-MC2 and heading on down to Milliways after accomplishing such a feat.

I might as well lock this thread now, for no further discussion is warranted, but I guess the most prudent thing to do is see if the poll reflects my claim.

~Bruno Kucinskas


Title: Re: Definitive proof that Satoshi Nakamoto is James A. Donald.
Post by: ljudotina on May 28, 2014, 08:14:35 AM
Does it really matter who Satoshi is?


Title: Re: Definitive proof that Satoshi Nakamoto is James A. Donald.
Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on May 28, 2014, 08:24:38 AM
Does it really matter who Satoshi is?

Does it really matter which teacher at a school is sexually abusing their pre-teen students that your child doesn't attend?


Title: Re: Definitive proof that Satoshi Nakamoto is James A. Donald.
Post by: turvarya on May 28, 2014, 08:26:17 AM
I often wonder if most of the things you write are just meant as a joke or if you are serious.
In case you are serious:
A timestamp is not really proof for anything. I saw a lot of cases where timestamps are just wrong.


Title: Re: Definitive proof that Satoshi Nakamoto is James A. Donald.
Post by: allcool on May 28, 2014, 08:30:04 AM
I think Satoshi Nakamoto does not exist!


Title: Re: Definitive proof that Satoshi Nakamoto is James A. Donald.
Post by: ranlo on May 28, 2014, 08:30:38 AM
Does it really matter who Satoshi is?

Does it really matter which teacher at a school is sexually abusing their pre-teen students that your child doesn't attend?

People let Santa Claus mess with their children every Christmas so no, not really. "Sit in my lap and whisper what you want in my ear and I'll give you candy." Really?

Anyways, now let's wait for a new message to pop up like the last one about the other Satoshi, "I am not James A. Donald."


Title: Re: Definitive proof that Satoshi Nakamoto is James A. Donald.
Post by: BitCoinDream on May 28, 2014, 08:39:02 AM
http://www.mail-archive.com/cryptography%40metzdowd.com/msg09959.html


http://www.mail-archive.com/cryptography%40metzdowd.com/msg09963.html



http://www.mail-archive.com/cryptography%40metzdowd.com/msg09964.html



That's my definitive proof clearly showing that Satoshi Nakamoto is indeed James A. Donald, unless I'm missing something so obvious like: Satoshi Nakamoto is so God-like, not only was he at his computer, at the ready, for the first question pertaining to Bitcoin, but when it finally arrived one day later, he not only was able to read the content, but fired up a detailed response, then click post, all within...wait for it...42 seconds.

I can only imagine Satoshi jumping into his DeLorean E-MC2 and heading on down to Milliways after accomplishing such a feat.

I might as well lock this thread now, for no further discussion is warranted, but I guess the most prudent thing to do is see if the poll reflects my claim.

~Bruno Kucinskas

Who is James A. Donald by the way ? I just found a wikipedia editor of this name, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:James_A._Donald, but no wikipedia entry !!!


Title: Re: Definitive proof that Satoshi Nakamoto is James A. Donald.
Post by: calmindifference on May 28, 2014, 08:50:24 AM
Well spotted, although could it be due to a regional daylight savings time difference which changes around Oct/Nov and the timespan 1:00:42?



Title: Re: Definitive proof that Satoshi Nakamoto is James A. Donald.
Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on May 28, 2014, 08:51:46 AM
http://www.metzdowd.com/

https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2928/14102834957_fe34912134_b.jpg

https://www.linkedin.com/pub/perry-metzger/4/71a/159

Quote
Perry Metzger

Managing Partner, Metzger, Dowdeswell & Co. LLC

Greater New York City AreaComputer & Network Security

Current   
University of Pennsylvania, Metzger, Dowdeswell & Co. LLC, The NetBSD Foundation

Previous   
Wasabi Systems, Inc., Piermont Information Systems Inc., Lehman Brothers

Education   
University of Pennsylvania

Quote
Volunteer/Software Developer
The NetBSD Foundation
1993 – Present (21 years)

(Open)1 project
CEO
Wasabi Systems, Inc.
2000 – 2002 (2 years)


President
Piermont Information Systems Inc.
1994 – 2000 (6 years)

Assistant Vice President
Lehman Brothers
1991 – 1994 (3 years)

System Administrator
IBM T.J. Watson Research
1990 – 1991 (1 year)

Software Developer
Morgan Stanley
1989 – 1990 (1 year)

https://www.linkedin.com/pub/gavin-andresen/1/797/698

Quote
Founder/CTO
Wasabi Software
January 1996 – January 2000 (4 years 1 month)


Title: Re: Definitive proof that Satoshi Nakamoto is James A. Donald.
Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on May 28, 2014, 08:55:37 AM
Well spotted, although could it be due to a regional daylight savings time difference which changes around Oct/Nov and the timespan 1:00:42?



Exactly 42 seconds. No added minute.

17:56:27 - 17:55:45 = :42

That's my timestamp, and I'm sticking to it.


Title: Re: Definitive proof that Satoshi Nakamoto is James A. Donald.
Post by: OnkelPaul on May 28, 2014, 08:55:54 AM
I often wonder if most of the things you write are just meant as a joke or if you are serious.
In case you are serious:
A timestamp is not really proof for anything. I saw a lot of cases where timestamps are just wrong.

If you look up the same mail dialogue at other archives you'll see different timestamps:
http://blog.gmane.org/gmane.comp.encryption.general/month=20081101
http://diswww.mit.edu/bloom-picayune/crypto/136763

Without being able to look at the original headers, I don't know what the exact sending times could be.
The mit.edu archive has header lines that look plausible and might be from the original mails:
Quote
Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 09:46:23 +1000
From: "James A. Donald" <jamesd@echeque.com>
To: satoshi@vistomail.com
CC: cryptography@metzdowd.com
In-Reply-To: <CHILKAT-MID-dd013ecc-8c7f-fc14-b1c5-cc9fd0181098@server123>
Quote
Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 09:37:43 +0800
From: "Satoshi Nakamoto" <satoshi@vistomail.com>
Reply-To: satoshi@vistomail.com
To: jamesd@echeque.com
Cc: cryptography@metzdowd.com

As you see, these timestamps claim different timezones, and are almost 2 hours apart, which is perfectly reasonable. Whether they are correct is another question, +1000 is in use in Eastern Australia and Siberia, while +0800 would be used in Western Australia and China. These do not necessarily indicate the actual location of mail users, of course.

Onkel Paul


Title: Re: Definitive proof that Satoshi Nakamoto is James A. Donald.
Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on May 28, 2014, 09:10:43 AM
Looks like J.A. may have been stirring the wrong pot: http://marc.info/?l=cryptography-randombit&m=137849729602738&w=2

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List:       cryptography-randombit
Subject:    Re: [cryptography] regarding the NSA crypto "breakthrough"
From:       "James A. Donald" <jamesd () echeque ! com>
Date:       2013-09-06 18:47:16
Message-ID: 522A2334.60208 () echeque ! com
[Download message RAW]

On 2013-09-06 7:01 PM, Eugen Leitl wrote:
> The claims are that some code and magic constants have been weakened,
> but also that NSA still has problems with some methods. We need to
> know. Obviously, as a short-term workaround there's fallback to
> expensive/inconvenient methods like one-time pads, but long-term we
> obviously need new cyphers. Not tainted by any TLA poison.

Time to generate and select new elliptic curves by an open process,
wherein any large random quantities are chosen by a non secret process,
such as searching for the appropriate value nearest a round number.


Title: Re: Definitive proof that Satoshi Nakamoto is James A. Donald.
Post by: buffalodoge on May 28, 2014, 09:12:27 AM
What IS up with Wasabi Systems?

April 2009:
http://tech.nifelheim.info/2009/04/whats-up-with-wasabi-systems-inc/

"Just got off the phone with the former Director of Support Services who worked at Wasabi until July of last year.
Wasabi was indeed a venture capital backed company, and went through a number of ’rounds’ of funding.
Recently my contact received a resume from a former employee of his asking about available openings at his current employer. This was a programmer who worked directly on the ip-san kernel.
Also the phone number 757-248-9601 now leads directly to Mr Frank Logan’s voicemail. Frank is / was the President / CEO of Wasabi.
All points I’ve researched show Wasabi to be shuttered.
Anyone have any other clues?"

"It seems they were taken to court (or subpoenad?) recently for patent violation, along with some other storage system vendors:
http://www.courthousenews.com/2009/04/05/New_Complaints.htm"

"The shoe dropped on 3/13. I don’t know about senior management, but everyone else had zero notice. On 3/12, Ian E. had no idea. AFAIK all the physical stuff in the office was liquidated, so Wasabi’s really gone. I don’t know what happened to the IP; I think Frank L. was trying to find buyers for it.
Most of the survivors are on linkedin, and many are still looking for work. I’m sure at least some of us would be willing to take contract work."



At least this guy's got an impressive resumé:
http://www.linkedin.com/in/fglogan


Title: Re: Definitive proof that Satoshi Nakamoto is James A. Donald.
Post by: blatchcorn on May 28, 2014, 11:14:27 AM
Sorry but I am not seeing proof - I am seeing two emails between two different people.

Can some one please explain like I am five?  ;D


Title: Re: Definitive proof that Satoshi Nakamoto is James A. Donald.
Post by: Wintermute on May 28, 2014, 11:23:00 AM
I think James A. Donald was not included in the recent linguistic study:

http://cointelegraph.com/news/111179/what_s_in_a_name_linguistic_study_identifies_nick_szabo_as_the_real_satoshi_nakamoto

It would be interesting to see how close he is to Satoshi compared to Nick Szabo.


Title: Re: Definitive proof that Satoshi Nakamoto is James A. Donald.
Post by: turvarya on May 28, 2014, 12:15:26 PM
Sorry but I am not seeing proof - I am seeing two emails between two different people.

Can some one please explain like I am five?  ;D
The second E-Mail was written at 17:55:45, the third was written at 17:56:27.

Phinnaeus Gage claims that Satoshi can not have read the second E-Mail and answered it in 42 seconds. There for the third must have been prepared before the second was even send.

I say, the timestamps are just wrong.


Title: Re: Definitive proof that Satoshi Nakamoto is James A. Donald.
Post by: AdamWhite on May 28, 2014, 12:30:22 PM
This isn't definitive proof whatsoever. Feel free to edit your thread name to something less sensationalist


Title: Re: Definitive proof that Satoshi Nakamoto is James A. Donald.
Post by: DobZombie on May 28, 2014, 12:54:14 PM


Satoshi is an Aussie

Satoshi is a white male, whom likes anime and Manga.

Prove me wrong


Title: Re: Definitive proof that Satoshi Nakamoto is James A. Donald.
Post by: CoinDiver on May 28, 2014, 01:35:14 PM
OR... the two parties discussed this privately before agreeing to post the question and answer publicly. If James was anything but certain about the validity of his concern, discussing it privately removes the possibility of publicly looking like an idiot.

OR... the timestamps are updated when an edit is made.


Title: Re: Definitive proof that Satoshi Nakamoto is James A. Donald.
Post by: Remember remember the 5th of November on May 28, 2014, 01:50:40 PM
OR... the two parties discussed this privately before agreeing to post the question and answer publicly. If James was anything but certain about the validity of his concern, discussing it privately removes the possibility of publicly looking like an idiot.

OR... the timestamps are updated when an edit is made.
I am more interested in the fact about Gaving being the founder/CTO of Wasabi Systems Inc


Title: Re: Definitive proof that Satoshi Nakamoto is James A. Donald.
Post by: herzmeister on May 28, 2014, 01:51:17 PM
OR... it was text snippet Satoshi already had prepared a while before because he was already anticipating questions like those.


Title: Re: Definitive proof that Satoshi Nakamoto is James A. Donald.
Post by: OnkelPaul on May 28, 2014, 01:55:18 PM
I've just checked the mail archive at metzdowd.com (http://www.metzdowd.com/pipermail/cryptography/).
The timestamps there are the same as the ones shown in the mit.edu archive. Looks like the mail-archive.com timestamps are bogus.

Just forget it. These timestamps don't prove anything, as they are not the times from original mails.
Of course this does not prove the opposite either, but I don't think that the search for truth works by conjuring up arbitrary assertions and then asking for negative proof.

Onkel Paul


Title: Re: Definitive proof that Satoshi Nakamoto is James A. Donald.
Post by: _smudger_ on May 28, 2014, 02:05:17 PM
I'm 99% sure it's Nick Szabo


Title: Re: Definitive proof that Satoshi Nakamoto is James A. Donald.
Post by: Remember remember the 5th of November on May 28, 2014, 02:06:27 PM
I've just checked the mail archive at metzdowd.com (http://www.metzdowd.com/pipermail/cryptography/).
The timestamps there are the same as the ones shown in the mit.edu archive. Looks like the mail-archive.com timestamps are bogus.

Just forget it. These timestamps don't prove anything, as they are not the times from original mails.
Of course this does not prove the opposite either, but I don't think that the search for truth works by conjuring up arbitrary assertions and then asking for negative proof.

Onkel Paul
Perhaps you are Satoshi since you are very much against us making progress on his identity.


Title: Re: Definitive proof that Satoshi Nakamoto is James A. Donald.
Post by: OnkelPaul on May 28, 2014, 02:14:34 PM
Perhaps you are Satoshi since you are very much against us making progress on his identity.

Well I'm Satoshi just as James A. Donald is Satoshi. Aren't we all Satoshi in a sense?  8)

Seriously, since when is stopping folks who are on the wrong track hindering their progress?
There are many more reasonable assumptions about Satoshi's identity than this mail exchange with obviously bogus timestamps that weren't even in the original mails but most likely generated in some later mail system.

Onkel Paul


Title: Re: Definitive proof that Satoshi Nakamoto is James A. Donald.
Post by: kokoarm on May 28, 2014, 02:18:02 PM
If they were one in the same I'm sure James would have waited a reasonable amount of time before posting the reply to himself.


Title: Re: Definitive proof that Satoshi Nakamoto is James A. Donald.
Post by: spazzdla on May 28, 2014, 02:25:26 PM
Does it really matter who Satoshi is?

Does it really matter which teacher at a school is sexually abusing their pre-teen students that your child doesn't attend?

This response is yet another reason I hate people.

LETS use yet another pedo exampe to prove my point and... my example has nothing to do with my point at all..!!! What are you CNN?


Title: Re: Definitive proof that Satoshi Nakamoto is James A. Donald.
Post by: roslinpl on May 28, 2014, 02:40:08 PM
I agree with those who said that timestamps are not any proof.

There is something funny in those searchings for Satoshi.
He proved to me that even in the world of computers, Internet and clever people you can stay anonymous if you just know how to do it.

I wish we will never find out who Satoshi is. Tesla should stay anonymous too.

Satoshi! I know that you are reading your forum! It is just something more obvious than a sun on the sky.
I want to thank you one more time for creating a Bitcoin!



Title: Re: Definitive proof that Satoshi Nakamoto is James A. Donald.
Post by: BittBurger on May 28, 2014, 02:44:15 PM
Does it really matter who Satoshi is?

Does it really matter which teacher at a school is sexually abusing their pre-teen students that your child doesn't attend?

I'm sensing a lack of awareness of proper analogies here.   ::)


Title: Re: Definitive proof that Satoshi Nakamoto is James A. Donald.
Post by: BlockStreet on May 28, 2014, 02:46:56 PM


Satoshi is an Aussie

Satoshi is a white male, whom likes anime and Manga.

Prove me wrong

Exactly.



Title: Re: Definitive proof that Satoshi Nakamoto is James A. Donald.
Post by: justusranvier on May 28, 2014, 05:24:46 PM
I'm 99% sure it's Nick Szabo
Yeah, but who is Nick Szabo? Has anyone ever seen a picture of him?


Title: Re: Definitive proof that Satoshi Nakamoto is James A. Donald.
Post by: roslinpl on May 28, 2014, 05:37:29 PM
I just found something interesing (as interesting as this thread..:P )

http://cloudfront-media.reason.com/mc/_external/2013_05/bitcoin-guy.jpg?h=266&w=450

looks like a son of:
http://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/nakamoto.jpg

:) so maybe Shinichi Mochizuki is real father of a Bitcoin.
And his real father was Satoshi Nakamoto :) and maybe there were problems in his family and he have to give back his son to another family and after all those years his son figured out that he love his real father so he name himself as a "Satoshi Nakamoto" to respect his real father name ;)

Huehue. Conspiracy.


Title: Re: Definitive proof that Satoshi Nakamoto is James A. Donald.
Post by: ranlo on May 28, 2014, 05:41:12 PM
I just found something interesing (as interesting as this thread..:P )

http://cloudfront-media.reason.com/mc/_external/2013_05/bitcoin-guy.jpg?h=266&w=450

looks like a son of:
http://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/nakamoto.jpg

:) so maybe Shinichi Mochizuki is real father of a Bitcoin.
And his real father was Satoshi Nakamoto :) and maybe there were problems in his family and he have to give back his son to another family and after all those years his son figured out that he love his real father so he name himself as a "Satoshi Nakamoto" to respect his real father name ;)

Huehue. Conspiracy.

Roslinpl. Me + you = making a movie. NOW. Let's get this script drafted before someone else steals it. This is going to be a better love story than Twilight!


Title: Re: Definitive proof that Satoshi Nakamoto is James A. Donald.
Post by: Exergy on May 28, 2014, 06:35:49 PM
Even if the timestamps are accurate, that question almost appears planted to give the opportunity to lend further credence to the idea in the form of "dialogue".

Still, it's all redundant if J Donald is another alias.


Title: Re: Definitive proof that Satoshi Nakamoto is James A. Donald.
Post by: BombaUcigasa on May 28, 2014, 07:08:38 PM
Well spotted, although could it be due to a regional daylight savings time difference which changes around Oct/Nov and the timespan 1:00:42?



Exactly 42 seconds. No added minute.

17:56:27 - 17:55:45 = :42

That's my timestamp, and I'm sticking to it.
If you plan your whole argument on this, look closer:

Timezone -08:00
http://www.mail-archive.com/cryptography%40metzdowd.com/msg09959.html

Timezone -07:00
http://www.mail-archive.com/cryptography%40metzdowd.com/msg09964.html

Why did Satoshi jump a timezone during the weekend?

Furthermore, why is James A. Donald wasting his time posting about racial violence and useless math trivia, up to Oct 2013, and doesn't participate in Bitcoin?
http://www.mail-archive.com/search?l=cryptography@metzdowd.com&q=from:%22James+A.+Donald%22
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:James_A._Donald


Title: Re: Definitive proof that Satoshi Nakamoto is James A. Donald.
Post by: protokol on May 28, 2014, 08:16:16 PM
^^ Nice debunking mate.

Seriously though Phinnaeus, you have been doing some thorough detective work recently, and you have uncovered some apparent links between some people that seem to have questionable motives. However many of your links are circumstantial at best,  and your "paedo angle" comments are starting to make you sound like the Daily Mail.

You are approaching this case like a conspiracy theorist, when you should be looking at it like a scientist. A conspiracy theorist thinks of a hypothesis, then tries to find anything that proves his claims. A scientist thinks of a hypothesis, then tries to find anything that disproves his claims. Concentrate more on disproving your hypotheses, and you will be closer to the truth IMO.



Title: Re: Definitive proof that Satoshi Nakamoto is James A. Donald.
Post by: ranlo on May 28, 2014, 08:20:33 PM
^^ Nice debunking mate.

Seriously though Phinnaeus, you have been doing some thorough detective work recently, and you have uncovered some apparent links between some people that seem to have questionable motives. However many of your links are circumstantial at best,  and your "paedo angle" comments are starting to make you sound like the Daily Mail.

You are approaching this case like a conspiracy theorist, when you should be looking at it like a scientist. A conspiracy theorist thinks of a hypothesis, then tries to find anything that proves his claims. A scientist thinks of a hypothesis, then tries to find anything that disproves his claims. Concentrate more on disproving your hypotheses, and you will be closer to the truth IMO.



You, my friend, are absolutely correct. I always find it hard to take any "proof" around the forums as being real when everyone tries to fit everything into their mold to show things. People throw around identities all day long and then try to find others that they can mold to fit what they're looking for. Innocent people are being brought into the middle of it as a result.


Title: Re: Definitive proof that Satoshi Nakamoto is James A. Donald.
Post by: roslinpl on May 28, 2014, 09:00:45 PM
In my opinion even Phinnaeus Gage don't really believe that James A. Donald is Satoshi indeed :)

But his target to make controversy thread is success :)


Title: Re: Definitive proof that Satoshi Nakamoto is James A. Donald.
Post by: maok on May 28, 2014, 09:40:52 PM
I've just checked the mail archive at metzdowd.com (http://www.metzdowd.com/pipermail/cryptography/).
The timestamps there are the same as the ones shown in the mit.edu archive. Looks like the mail-archive.com timestamps are bogus.

Therefore the correct timestamps are: Sun Nov 2 18:46:23 EST 2008 (http://www.metzdowd.com/pipermail/cryptography/2008-November/014814.html) and Sun Nov 2 20:37:43 EST 2008 (http://www.metzdowd.com/pipermail/cryptography/2008-November/014815.html)

The main question is when will Satoshi spend/donate his million BTC ? He advised us to be careful with our wallets so that we don't waste the bitcoins which will be forever lost if we're not careful so hopefully he has a plan of introducing those dormant coins into ecosystem before they are lost forever.


Title: Re: Definitive proof that Satoshi Nakamoto is James A. Donald.
Post by: buffalodoge on May 28, 2014, 09:46:40 PM
^^ Nice debunking mate.

Seriously though Phinnaeus, you have been doing some thorough detective work recently, and you have uncovered some apparent links between some people that seem to have questionable motives. However many of your links are circumstantial at best,  and your "paedo angle" comments are starting to make you sound like the Daily Mail.

You are approaching this case like a conspiracy theorist, when you should be looking at it like a scientist. A conspiracy theorist thinks of a hypothesis, then tries to find anything that proves his claims. A scientist thinks of a hypothesis, then tries to find anything that disproves his claims. Concentrate more on disproving your hypotheses, and you will be closer to the truth IMO.



This was fun, but I read some of James A. Donald's blog and I hope to god he isn't the creator of Bitcoin. Seems that for years, the dude has been drowning in butthurt about "COMMUNIST INFILTRATION OF WIKIPEDIA", the scourge of anti-white racism, et cetera...lol wut?

Come back to us, PG!

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=628000

For the record, I will do everything in my power to try and debunk my own or PG's theories - it just hasn't worked out yet.


Title: Re: Re: Definitive proof that Satoshi Nakamoto is James A. Donald.
Post by: ranlo on May 28, 2014, 09:59:28 PM
Quote from: maok
Quote from: OnkelPaul on Today at 08:55:18 AM

I've just checked the mail archive at metzdowd.com ( http://www.metzdowd.com/pipermail/cryptography/).
The timestamps there are the same as the ones shown in the mit.edu archive. Looks like the mail-archive.com timestamps are bogus.


Therefore the correct timestamps are: Sun Nov 2 18:46:23 EST 2008 and Sun Nov 2 20:37:43 EST 2008

The main question is when will Satoshi spend/donate his million BTC ? He advised us to be careful with our wallets so that we don't waste the bitcoins which will be forever lost if we're not careful so hopefully he has a plan of introducing those dormant coins into ecosystem before they are lost forever.

A lot of people are still thinking that satoshis coins aren't accessible anymore. There are a lot that haven't moved in years.

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Title: Re: Definitive proof that Satoshi Nakamoto is James A. Donald.
Post by: maok on May 28, 2014, 11:04:23 PM
Its hard to understand that someone who comes up with this idea of crypto currency, spends almost 2 years coding it and making sure every angle is covered, would be so reckless to lose access to his coins. I doubt that and I'd be surprised if thats true. I think what he's trying to do by not spending them is protecting the value but still they'll need to enter the system before too late as they represent 5% of the total and it would be a shame if they're lost forever. Maybe once the sha256 becomes obsolete due to quantum computers, hackers will sweep the old sha256 wallets for lost bitcoins so if Satoshi will still be around by then and hadn't introduced the coins into the system he'll be forced moving the coins into the new cryptographic wallets so I guess either way the coins won't be lost.


Title: Re: Re: Re: Definitive proof that Satoshi Nakamoto is James A. Donald.
Post by: ranlo on May 28, 2014, 11:06:42 PM
Quote from: maok
Its hard to understand that someone who comes up with this idea of crypto currency, spends almost 2 years coding it and making sure every angle is covered, would be so reckless to lose access to his coins. I doubt that and I'd be surprised if thats true. I think what he's trying to do by not spending them is protecting the value but still they'll need to enter the system before too late as they represent 5% of the total and it would be a shame if they're lost forever. Maybe once the sha256 becomes obsolete due to quantum computers, hackers will sweep the old sha256 wallets for lost bitcoins so if Satoshi will still be around by then and hadn't introduced the coins into the system he'll be forced moving the coins into the new cryptographic wallets so I guess either way the coins won't be lost.

Or it's possible that the entire thing was an experiment and he didn't expect it to be so successful. Nobody really knows at the end of the day. Keep in mind that for a few years they had no value.

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Title: Re: Definitive proof that Satoshi Nakamoto is James A. Donald.
Post by: nkocevar on May 28, 2014, 11:23:55 PM
Does it really matter who Satoshi is?

Does it really matter which teacher at a school is sexually abusing their pre-teen students that your child doesn't attend?

Oh I love this xD Youre such a good point-prover in a dickish way


Title: Re: Definitive proof that Satoshi Nakamoto is James A. Donald.
Post by: Bitcoin Magazine on May 28, 2014, 11:51:26 PM
i wrote the first line of Bit code

it was #include <stdio.H>

and someone paid me 300 BTC for it!!!!@@


Title: Re: Definitive proof that Satoshi Nakamoto is James A. Donald.
Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on May 29, 2014, 02:02:14 AM
In my opinion even Phinnaeus Gage don't really believe that James A. Donald is Satoshi indeed :)

But his target to make controversy thread is success :)


In all fairness, guys, I truly did believe I found the smoking gun. I wasn't aware that there were originals of the emails, assuming all other sites having the same info were just mirroring the main crypto site.

For what it's worth, a discussion is now underway, e.g. Wasabi, et al. of which was also not this thread's intent, for if it was I would state such, or would have presented the info via some other avenue.

That said, I'll now add [Debunked] to the thread's title in all fairly, and appreciate the leg-work done by others to drive that point home.

~Bruno Kucinskas


Title: Re: Definitive proof that Satoshi Nakamoto is James A. Donald.
Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on May 29, 2014, 02:05:27 AM
^^ Nice debunking mate.

Seriously though Phinnaeus, you have been doing some thorough detective work recently, and you have uncovered some apparent links between some people that seem to have questionable motives. However many of your links are circumstantial at best,  and your "paedo angle" comments are starting to make you sound like the Daily Mail.

You are approaching this case like a conspiracy theorist, when you should be looking at it like a scientist. A conspiracy theorist thinks of a hypothesis, then tries to find anything that proves his claims. A scientist thinks of a hypothesis, then tries to find anything that disproves his claims. Concentrate more on disproving your hypotheses, and you will be closer to the truth IMO.



This was fun, but I read some of James A. Donald's blog and I hope to god he isn't the creator of Bitcoin. Seems that for years, the dude has been drowning in butthurt about "COMMUNIST INFILTRATION OF WIKIPEDIA", the scourge of anti-white racism, et cetera...lol wut?

Come back to us, PG!

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=628000

For the record, I will do everything in my power to try and debunk my own or PG's theories - it just hasn't worked out yet.

And, it's truly welcomed, bud.


Title: Re: [Debunked] Definitive proof that Satoshi Nakamoto is James A. Donald.
Post by: ranlo on May 29, 2014, 02:15:26 AM
In my opinion even Phinnaeus Gage don't really believe that James A. Donald is Satoshi indeed :)

But his target to make controversy thread is success :)


In all fairness, guys, I truly did believe I found the smoking gun. I wasn't aware that there were originals of the emails, assuming all other sites having the same info were just mirroring the main crypto site.

For what it's worth, a discussion is now underway, e.g. Wasabi, et al. of which was also not this thread's intent, for if it was I would state such, or would have presented the info via some other avenue.

That said, I'll now add [Debunked] to the thread's title in all fairly, and appreciate the leg-work done by others to drive that point home.

~Bruno Kucinskas

Does this mean you're back on the trail to find out who Satoshi is again? If so, be sure to keep us updated. You may at some point figure it out, :).


Title: Re: Definitive proof that Satoshi Nakamoto is James A. Donald.
Post by: justusranvier on May 29, 2014, 04:34:21 AM
https://www.linkedin.com/pub/gavin-andresen/1/797/698

Quote
Founder/CTO
Wasabi Software
January 1996 – January 2000 (4 years 1 month)
How many degrees of separation do you think exist between Wasabi and In-Q-Tel?


Title: Re: Definitive proof that Satoshi Nakamoto is James A. Donald.
Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on May 29, 2014, 05:39:01 AM
https://www.linkedin.com/pub/gavin-andresen/1/797/698

Quote
Founder/CTO
Wasabi Software
January 1996 – January 2000 (4 years 1 month)
How many degrees of separation do you think exist between Wasabi and In-Q-Tel?

One, if any of its investors mentioned here are associated with In-Q-Tel: http://www.ddn.com/pdfs/TE_DDN.pdf

Quote
Wasabi Systems, Inc.
500 East Main Street Suite 1520
Norfolk, VA 23510
United States
Phone: 757-248-9601
Fax: 757-299-8075
www.wasabisystems.com
 
Wasabi Systems, Inc. engages in the development and sale of software products and development tools that address the converging requirements of voice, data, and video network infrastructure products.

It offers Storage Builder, a software solution that enables value-added resellers, original equipment manufacturers, and system integrators to deliver iSCSI and NAS networked storage appliances; Certified BSD, an operating system for networked devices; Journaling Filesystem, which utilizes write-ahead physical block logging to increase the recovery speed of the Unix file system; WasabiRAID, a compact software RAID implementation; and an integrated NAS reference design kit.

The company also offers consulting and development, and platform re-targeting services for Certified BSD. Its clients include developers of networked devices, storage devices, wireless appliances, and embedded systems, as well as silicon venders and microprocessor designers. The company sells its products through value-added resellers, original equipment manufacturers, and system integrators in the United States and Europe.

The company was incorporated in 1995 and is headquartered in Norfolk, Virginia. Key investors in Wasabi Systems, Inc. include Equip Ventures, Himalaya Capital Ventures, L.P., Hudson Ventures, Intel Capital, Loeb Investors Co., Newlight Management, LLC, and Scorpion Capital Partners L.P.

Why do you ask? "What do you have in mind?"

Here's another quote I'll leave you with: “Hiring consultants to conduct studies can be an excellent means of turning problems into gold, your problems into their gold.”

I'll leave it up to the reader to uncover who said both.


Title: Re: Definitive proof that Satoshi Nakamoto is James A. Donald.
Post by: BombaUcigasa on May 29, 2014, 06:45:09 AM
In all fairness, guys, I truly did believe I found the smoking gun. I
The feeling of being right is independent of facts and truth and is the result of biochemical processes. Sometimes they misfire, for example after prolonged fasting or stress.

Good observations, we enjoy your work and should you fail 1000 times to find the truth once, it would still be worth it. Just be careful of the effects of your discoveries.


Title: Re: Definitive proof that Satoshi Nakamoto is James A. Donald.
Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on May 29, 2014, 07:05:35 AM
In all fairness, guys, I truly did believe I found the smoking gun. I
The feeling of being right is independent of facts and truth and is the result of biochemical processes. Sometimes they misfire, for example after prolonged fasting or stress.

Good observations, we enjoy your work and should you fail 1000 times to find the truth once, it would still be worth it. Just be careful of the effects of your discoveries.

BRB, to see why there's a white van parked out front shinin' a red laser beam through the windows. Maybe he just wants Trixie to chase it, but she's asleep on the sofa.


Title: Re: Definitive proof that Satoshi Nakamoto is James A. Donald.
Post by: dserrano5 on May 29, 2014, 08:29:58 AM
Maybe once the sha256 becomes obsolete due to quantum computers, hackers will sweep the old sha256 wallets for lost bitcoins so if Satoshi will still be around by then and hadn't introduced the coins into the system he'll be forced moving the coins into the new cryptographic wallets so I guess either way the coins won't be lost.

Or they are just dormant so there's a nice incentive for people to try and crack sha256 (it will fall down eventually), then we'll know that it's time to migrate to a different algo.


Title: Re: Definitive proof that Satoshi Nakamoto is James A. Donald.
Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on May 29, 2014, 10:35:43 PM


Satoshi is an Aussie

Satoshi is a white male, whom likes anime and Manga.

Prove me wrong

Exactly.



Sure was nice to have Ken Feldman weigh in on this thread.

https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2919/14045883468_4171bb5e06_n.jpg
Two loving couples on vacation in Egypt in 2008: Ken Feldman with Autumn Radtke, and Michael Terpin with Brock Pierce.


Title: Re: [Debunked] Definitive proof that Satoshi Nakamoto is James A. Donald.
Post by: jabo38 on May 30, 2014, 06:30:42 AM
I think it would be sooooo awesome if bitcoin became like crazy big, and then Satoshi air dropped his coins to the poor


Title: Re: Definitive proof that Satoshi Nakamoto is James A. Donald.
Post by: Beliathon on May 30, 2014, 06:32:13 AM
Does it really matter who Satoshi is?

Does it really matter which teacher at a school is sexually abusing their pre-teen students that your child doesn't attend?
Welcome to my ignore list, you insane fuck. Satoshi didn't sexually abuse anyone. What the hell kind of response is this? An insane one.


Title: Re: Definitive proof that Satoshi Nakamoto is James A. Donald.
Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on May 30, 2014, 08:00:35 AM
Does it really matter who Satoshi is?

Does it really matter which teacher at a school is sexually abusing their pre-teen students that your child doesn't attend?
Welcome to my ignore list, you insane fuck. Satoshi didn't sexually abuse anyone. What the hell kind of response is this? An insane one.

Thank you. One less person I need to protect from themselves seeing that you're not able to put my post in perspective. Seems to me you may have some other underlying reason for ignoring me, using this mundane post as an excuse. Too bad you'll never read this post due to having me on ignore unless, of course, I'm quoted. BTW, go fuck yourself, and I'll never put anybody on ignore.

PS: You really hurt my feels by putting me on ignore. I duly hope that one day you'll change your mind, fuckface.


Title: Re: Definitive proof that Satoshi Nakamoto is James A. Donald.
Post by: maok on May 30, 2014, 08:09:16 AM
Does it really matter who Satoshi is?

Does it really matter which teacher at a school is sexually abusing their pre-teen students that your child doesn't attend?
Welcome to my ignore list, you insane fuck. Satoshi didn't sexually abuse anyone. What the hell kind of response is this? An insane one.

Thank you. One less person I need to protect from themselves seeing that you're not able to put my post in perspective. Seems to me you may have some other underlying reason for ignoring me, using this mundane post as an excuse. Too bad you'll never read this post due to having me on ignore unless, of course, I'm quoted. BTW, go fuck yourself, and I'll never put anybody on ignore.

PS: You really hurt my feels by putting me on ignore. I duly hope that one day you'll change your mind, fuckface.

whats up with this ignore trend ? everyone on here feels the need to announce when they ignore someone. I see a post a don't like I stop reading I don't need any button for that and I don't need to make it public as if its important lol


Title: Re: Definitive proof that Satoshi Nakamoto is James A. Donald.
Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on May 30, 2014, 08:19:10 AM
Does it really matter who Satoshi is?

Does it really matter which teacher at a school is sexually abusing their pre-teen students that your child doesn't attend?
Welcome to my ignore list, you insane fuck. Satoshi didn't sexually abuse anyone. What the hell kind of response is this? An insane one.

Thank you. One less person I need to protect from themselves seeing that you're not able to put my post in perspective. Seems to me you may have some other underlying reason for ignoring me, using this mundane post as an excuse. Too bad you'll never read this post due to having me on ignore unless, of course, I'm quoted. BTW, go fuck yourself, and I'll never put anybody on ignore.

PS: You really hurt my feels by putting me on ignore. I duly hope that one day you'll change your mind, fuckface.

whats up with this ignore trend ? everyone on here feels the need to announce when they ignore someone. I see a post a don't like I stop reading I don't need any button for that and I don't need to make it public as if its important lol

Finally, somebody worthy to put on my ignore list.  ;D Thanks, bud, for the thought-out insight, albeit it'd been nice if you'd had penned at least one 'fuck' in your post.


Title: Re: [Debunked] Definitive proof that Satoshi Nakamoto is James A. Donald.
Post by: Hippie Tech on May 31, 2014, 05:34:06 AM
Does it really matter who Satoshi is?

Does it really matter which teacher at a school is sexually abusing their pre-teen students that your child doesn't attend?
Welcome to my ignore list, you insane fuck. Satoshi didn't sexually abuse anyone. What the hell kind of response is this? An insane one.

Thank you. One less person I need to protect from themselves seeing that you're not able to put my post in perspective. Seems to me you may have some other underlying reason for ignoring me, using this mundane post as an excuse. Too bad you'll never read this post due to having me on ignore unless, of course, I'm quoted. BTW, go fuck yourself, and I'll never put anybody on ignore.

PS: You really hurt my feels by putting me on ignore. I duly hope that one day you'll change your mind, fuckface.

You should really consider posting a Devtome link/ addy. :P

I /we will tip 500 DVC for each troll you PWN and 25 DVC for each profanity you may happen to unleash in the process. ;D


Title: Re: [Debunked] Definitive proof that Satoshi Nakamoto is James A. Donald.
Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on May 31, 2014, 05:42:00 AM
Does it really matter who Satoshi is?

Does it really matter which teacher at a school is sexually abusing their pre-teen students that your child doesn't attend?
Welcome to my ignore list, you insane fuck. Satoshi didn't sexually abuse anyone. What the hell kind of response is this? An insane one.

Thank you. One less person I need to protect from themselves seeing that you're not able to put my post in perspective. Seems to me you may have some other underlying reason for ignoring me, using this mundane post as an excuse. Too bad you'll never read this post due to having me on ignore unless, of course, I'm quoted. BTW, go fuck yourself, and I'll never put anybody on ignore.

PS: You really hurt my feels by putting me on ignore. I duly hope that one day you'll change your mind, fuckface.

You should really consider posting a Devtome link/ addy. :P

I /we will tip 500 DVC for each troll you PWN and 25 DVC for each profanity you may happen to unleash in the process. ;D

Introducing PWN Coin: The only alt-coin one's capable of En Passant.


Title: Re: [Debunked] Definitive proof that Satoshi Nakamoto is James A. Donald.
Post by: Hippie Tech on May 31, 2014, 06:18:29 AM
Does it really matter who Satoshi is?

Does it really matter which teacher at a school is sexually abusing their pre-teen students that your child doesn't attend?
Welcome to my ignore list, you insane fuck. Satoshi didn't sexually abuse anyone. What the hell kind of response is this? An insane one.

Thank you. One less person I need to protect from themselves seeing that you're not able to put my post in perspective. Seems to me you may have some other underlying reason for ignoring me, using this mundane post as an excuse. Too bad you'll never read this post due to having me on ignore unless, of course, I'm quoted. BTW, go fuck yourself, and I'll never put anybody on ignore.

PS: You really hurt my feels by putting me on ignore. I duly hope that one day you'll change your mind, fuckface.

You should really consider posting a Devtome link/ addy. :P

I /we will tip 500 DVC for each troll you PWN and 25 DVC for each profanity you may happen to unleash in the process. ;D

Introducing PWN Coin: The only alt-coin one's capable of En Passant.

Isn't that already hard coded into Bitcoin ? ;D

Just when you think you're in the clear... WHAAMMO ! You're out 1132 BTC.


Title: Re: [Debunked] Definitive proof that Satoshi Nakamoto is James A. Donald.
Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on May 31, 2014, 06:28:23 AM
Does it really matter who Satoshi is?

Does it really matter which teacher at a school is sexually abusing their pre-teen students that your child doesn't attend?
Welcome to my ignore list, you insane fuck. Satoshi didn't sexually abuse anyone. What the hell kind of response is this? An insane one.

Thank you. One less person I need to protect from themselves seeing that you're not able to put my post in perspective. Seems to me you may have some other underlying reason for ignoring me, using this mundane post as an excuse. Too bad you'll never read this post due to having me on ignore unless, of course, I'm quoted. BTW, go fuck yourself, and I'll never put anybody on ignore.

PS: You really hurt my feels by putting me on ignore. I duly hope that one day you'll change your mind, fuckface.

You should really consider posting a Devtome link/ addy. :P

I /we will tip 500 DVC for each troll you PWN and 25 DVC for each profanity you may happen to unleash in the process. ;D

Introducing PWN Coin: The only alt-coin one's capable of En Passant.

Isn't that already hard coded into Bitcoin ? ;D

Just when you think you're in the clear... WHAAMMO ! You're out 1132 BTC.

Only by an entity I highly praised online and off, namely InstaWallat prior to "hack", is all.

BTW, https://www.instawallet.org/w/sMceOus2wYrDVAHxA5BssBwB7kgDqC9r4Q, et al. is completely offline now, in spite of still having 20K wallets to return. Must be nice to be considered Staff on this forum: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1929


Title: Re: [Debunked] Definitive proof that Satoshi Nakamoto is James A. Donald.
Post by: bryant.coleman on May 31, 2014, 06:45:56 AM
lol.. so after the turn of Dorian Nakamoto, it is the turn of James A. Donald to be re-incarnated as the Satoshi. Can we organize a Bitcoin fundraiser for James A. Donald? Just like the one we had for Dorian Nakamoto?

https://blockchain.info/address/1Dorian4RoXcnBv9hnQ4Y2C1an6NJ4UrjX


Title: Re: [Debunked] Definitive proof that Satoshi Nakamoto is James A. Donald.
Post by: nioc on May 31, 2014, 07:00:13 AM
I am not Satoshi


Title: Re: [Debunked] Definitive proof that Satoshi Nakamoto is James A. Donald.
Post by: Hippie Tech on June 01, 2014, 02:11:34 AM
Does it really matter who Satoshi is?

Does it really matter which teacher at a school is sexually abusing their pre-teen students that your child doesn't attend?
Welcome to my ignore list, you insane fuck. Satoshi didn't sexually abuse anyone. What the hell kind of response is this? An insane one.

Thank you. One less person I need to protect from themselves seeing that you're not able to put my post in perspective. Seems to me you may have some other underlying reason for ignoring me, using this mundane post as an excuse. Too bad you'll never read this post due to having me on ignore unless, of course, I'm quoted. BTW, go fuck yourself, and I'll never put anybody on ignore.

PS: You really hurt my feels by putting me on ignore. I duly hope that one day you'll change your mind, fuckface.

You should really consider posting a Devtome link/ addy. :P

I /we will tip 500 DVC for each troll you PWN and 25 DVC for each profanity you may happen to unleash in the process. ;D

Introducing PWN Coin: The only alt-coin one's capable of En Passant.

Isn't that already hard coded into Bitcoin ? ;D

Just when you think you're in the clear... WHAAMMO ! You're out 1132 BTC.

Only by an entity I highly praised online and off, namely InstaWallat prior to "hack", is all.

BTW, https://www.instawallet.org/w/sMceOus2wYrDVAHxA5BssBwB7kgDqC9r4Q, et al. is completely offline now, in spite of still having 20K wallets to return. Must be nice to be considered Staff on this forum: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1929

Yikes ! Now thats En Passant with some added english. ;)

(I was about to go off on this "history of the banks and how they have been screwing us since day 1" tangent... meh.. maybe tomorrow. ;D )

If you can learn who was in attendance and/or in the area while the CIA and CFR meetings were taking place, you will find Mr. Nakamoto.

satoshi - Last Active:  December 13, 2010, 04:45:41 PM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3

Gavin (and other dev(s)) met with the CIA 4 months later.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=6652.0

Gavin meets with the Council on Foriegn Relations, February 6, 2014.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=412846.0






Title: Re: [Debunked] Definitive proof that Satoshi Nakamoto is James A. Donald.
Post by: acs267 on June 01, 2014, 02:15:19 AM
It doesn't matter who Satosh is. They obviously don't want to be found. No clearer, every prediction and idiotic assumption must be a annoyance.


Title: Re: [Debunked] Definitive proof that Satoshi Nakamoto is James A. Donald.
Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on June 03, 2014, 04:20:47 AM
Does it really matter who Satoshi is?

Does it really matter which teacher at a school is sexually abusing their pre-teen students that your child doesn't attend?
Welcome to my ignore list, you insane fuck. Satoshi didn't sexually abuse anyone. What the hell kind of response is this? An insane one.

Thank you. One less person I need to protect from themselves seeing that you're not able to put my post in perspective. Seems to me you may have some other underlying reason for ignoring me, using this mundane post as an excuse. Too bad you'll never read this post due to having me on ignore unless, of course, I'm quoted. BTW, go fuck yourself, and I'll never put anybody on ignore.

PS: You really hurt my feels by putting me on ignore. I duly hope that one day you'll change your mind, fuckface.

You should really consider posting a Devtome link/ addy. :P

I /we will tip 500 DVC for each troll you PWN and 25 DVC for each profanity you may happen to unleash in the process. ;D

Introducing PWN Coin: The only alt-coin one's capable of En Passant.

Isn't that already hard coded into Bitcoin ? ;D

Just when you think you're in the clear... WHAAMMO ! You're out 1132 BTC.

Only by an entity I highly praised online and off, namely InstaWallat prior to "hack", is all.

BTW, https://www.instawallet.org/w/sMceOus2wYrDVAHxA5BssBwB7kgDqC9r4Q, et al. is completely offline now, in spite of still having 20K wallets to return. Must be nice to be considered Staff on this forum: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1929

Yikes ! Now thats En Passant with some added english. ;)

(I was about to go off on this "history of the banks and how they have been screwing us since day 1" tangent... meh.. maybe tomorrow. ;D )

If you can learn who was in attendance and/or in the area while the CIA and CFR meetings were taking place, you will find Mr. Nakamoto.

satoshi - Last Active:  December 13, 2010, 04:45:41 PM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3

Gavin (and other dev(s)) met with the CIA 4 months later.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=6652.0

Gavin meets with the Council on Foriegn Relations, February 6, 2014.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=412846.0




Swedish bitcoin miner manufacturer joins TBF.

Next day, Brock Pierce is elected to fill the board seat that Mt Gox resigned from, of which Brock Pierce and a former FBI notable, Louis Freek, tried to take over with nary one of us Minions aware of such while in process.


Title: Re: [Debunked] Definitive proof that Satoshi Nakamoto is James A. Donald.
Post by: TippingPoint on June 03, 2014, 04:33:54 AM
Which is more likely?

James A. Donald
or
Donal O’Mahony


Title: Re: [Debunked] Definitive proof that Satoshi Nakamoto is James A. Donald.
Post by: Ron~Popeil on June 03, 2014, 06:59:11 AM
lol.. so after the turn of Dorian Nakamoto, it is the turn of James A. Donald to be re-incarnated as the Satoshi. Can we organize a Bitcoin fundraiser for James A. Donald? Just like the one we had for Dorian Nakamoto?

https://blockchain.info/address/1Dorian4RoXcnBv9hnQ4Y2C1an6NJ4UrjX

I need to be accused of being satoshi as well. Address below.  8)


Title: Re: [Debunked] Definitive proof that Satoshi Nakamoto is James A. Donald.
Post by: bryant.coleman on June 03, 2014, 07:07:16 AM
I need to be accused of being satoshi as well. Address below.  8)

Everyone gets a chance eventually. So don't worry too much about it. Your term will also come soon. After all, there are only some 1 million or so Bitcoiners around in this world.  ;D


Title: Re: [Debunked] Definitive proof that Satoshi Nakamoto is James A. Donald.
Post by: herzmeister on June 03, 2014, 09:45:25 AM
In the future everyone will have their 15 minutes of satoshi.  :)


Title: Re: [Debunked] Definitive proof that Satoshi Nakamoto is James A. Donald.
Post by: Traxo on September 06, 2018, 03:19:59 PM
http://www.metzdowd.com/

https://www.linkedin.com/pub/perry-metzger/4/71a/159

Quote
Perry Metzger

Managing Partner, Metzger, Dowdeswell & Co. LLC

Greater New York City AreaComputer & Network Security

Current   
University of Pennsylvania, Metzger, Dowdeswell & Co. LLC, The NetBSD Foundation

Previous   
Wasabi Systems, Inc., Piermont Information Systems Inc., Lehman Brothers

Education   
University of Pennsylvania

Quote
Volunteer/Software Developer
The NetBSD Foundation
1993 – Present (21 years)

(Open)1 project
CEO
Wasabi Systems, Inc.
2000 – 2002 (2 years)


President
Piermont Information Systems Inc.
1994 – 2000 (6 years)

Assistant Vice President
Lehman Brothers
1991 – 1994 (3 years)

System Administrator
IBM T.J. Watson Research
1990 – 1991 (1 year)

Software Developer
Morgan Stanley
1989 – 1990 (1 year)

https://www.linkedin.com/pub/gavin-andresen/1/797/698

Quote
Founder/CTO
Wasabi Software
January 1996 – January 2000 (4 years 1 month)

That is strange. Perry Metzger joins Wasabi as CEO in 2000 when Gavin Andresen leaves the company he founded. In November 2000 (https://web.archive.org/web/20180501215134/http://www.metzdowd.com/pipermail/cryptography/), Perry Metzger creates the mailing list where Satoshi later announces Bitcoin in November 2008.

Seems like more than a coincidence. Were there no other good cryptography mailing lists for Satoshi to announce on?

Satoshi did also announce on gmane.comp.encryption (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=353311.msg3782226#msg3782226) but seems the replies are same such as James A. Donald being first to reply (http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.encryption.general/12594/).

Note @anonymint recently got in an argument (https://steemit.com/politics/@anonymint/succinct-absolute-truth-about-9-11-and-las-vegas-massacre) with James A. Donald about 9/11.

There is another interesting tidbit about James A. Donald (aka "Jim"):

Quote
I grok everything except the commie bit. Could you unpack your intended meaning for me?

He [Jim] was a literal politically active communist in the 1970s to the extent that he visited Cuba or Russia or wherever and came back chastened.


So I wonder given Jim’s disingenuous debating of the 9/11 issue, if Jim was formerly on the payroll of the CIA or FBI:

I have spent quite a lot of time in Castro’s Cuba. He did not do relatively well under the circumstances. His people were hungry, gravely malnourished, were denied basic medicines and basic medical treatment, and their elite treated them with arrogance, brutality, and contempt. Visiting leftists were surrounded with a bubble of luxury that made an utter mockery of their pretended beliefs.

I was there. I saw what I saw. I have met people who were also there, and say they saw something completely different. They lie. They lie out of evil, malice, and hatred, and under polite and superficially friendly questioning about our shared experiences, they were unable to keep their story straight.

Remember that the Neocons and Big Oil were the criminal syndicate involved with the FBI, CIA, the Bay of Pigs, the assasination of JFK, and scapegoating it on Oswald.
@anonymint wrote a blog detailing all that (https://steemit.com/psychology/@anonymint/you-can-t-handle-the-truth). Appears that Jim could possibly be some sort of covert agent.


Title: Re: [Debunked] Definitive proof that Satoshi Nakamoto is James A. Donald.
Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on September 09, 2018, 03:18:04 PM
http://www.metzdowd.com/

https://www.linkedin.com/pub/perry-metzger/4/71a/159

Quote
Perry Metzger

Managing Partner, Metzger, Dowdeswell & Co. LLC

Greater New York City AreaComputer & Network Security

Current   
University of Pennsylvania, Metzger, Dowdeswell & Co. LLC, The NetBSD Foundation

Previous   
Wasabi Systems, Inc., Piermont Information Systems Inc., Lehman Brothers

Education   
University of Pennsylvania

Quote
Volunteer/Software Developer
The NetBSD Foundation
1993 – Present (21 years)

(Open)1 project
CEO
Wasabi Systems, Inc.
2000 – 2002 (2 years)


President
Piermont Information Systems Inc.
1994 – 2000 (6 years)

Assistant Vice President
Lehman Brothers
1991 – 1994 (3 years)

System Administrator
IBM T.J. Watson Research
1990 – 1991 (1 year)

Software Developer
Morgan Stanley
1989 – 1990 (1 year)

https://www.linkedin.com/pub/gavin-andresen/1/797/698

Quote
Founder/CTO
Wasabi Software
January 1996 – January 2000 (4 years 1 month)

That is strange. Perry Metzger joins Wasabi as CEO in 2000 when Gavin Andresen leaves the company he founded. In November 2000 (https://web.archive.org/web/20180501215134/http://www.metzdowd.com/pipermail/cryptography/), Perry Metzger creates the mailing list where Satoshi later announces Bitcoin in November 2008.

Seems like more than a coincidence. Were there no other good cryptography mailing lists for Satoshi to announce on?

Satoshi did also announce on gmane.comp.encryption (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=353311.msg3782226#msg3782226) but seems the replies are same such as James A. Donald being first to reply (http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.encryption.general/12594/).

Note @anonymint recently got in an argument (https://steemit.com/politics/@anonymint/succinct-absolute-truth-about-9-11-and-las-vegas-massacre) with James A. Donald about 9/11.

There is another interesting tidbit about James A. Donald (aka "Jim"):

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I grok everything except the commie bit. Could you unpack your intended meaning for me?

He [Jim] was a literal politically active communist in the 1970s to the extent that he visited Cuba or Russia or wherever and came back chastened.


So I wonder given Jim’s disingenuous debating of the 9/11 issue, if Jim was formerly on the payroll of the CIA or FBI:

I have spent quite a lot of time in Castro’s Cuba. He did not do relatively well under the circumstances. His people were hungry, gravely malnourished, were denied basic medicines and basic medical treatment, and their elite treated them with arrogance, brutality, and contempt. Visiting leftists were surrounded with a bubble of luxury that made an utter mockery of their pretended beliefs.

I was there. I saw what I saw. I have met people who were also there, and say they saw something completely different. They lie. They lie out of evil, malice, and hatred, and under polite and superficially friendly questioning about our shared experiences, they were unable to keep their story straight.

Remember that the Neocons and Big Oil were the criminal syndicate involved with the FBI, CIA, the Bay of Pigs, the assasination of JFK, and scapegoating it on Oswald.
@anonymint wrote a blog detailing all that (https://steemit.com/psychology/@anonymint/you-can-t-handle-the-truth). Appears that Jim could possibly be some sort of covert agent.


WTF! Excellent find, bud.

Bruno


Title: Re: [Debunked] Definitive proof that Satoshi Nakamoto is James A. Donald.
Post by: BTalarmus on September 09, 2018, 08:27:19 PM
To a large extent, it doesn’t matter who invented bitcoin. But based on patents filed in the United States in 2008, bitcoin was created by Neil King, Vladimir Oksman and Charles Bray, who used the same speech figures in the patent as in the work of Satoshi Nakamoto, distributed on October 31, 2008.


Title: Re: [Debunked] Definitive proof that Satoshi Nakamoto is James A. Donald.
Post by: Traxo on September 11, 2018, 02:39:54 PM
To a large extent, it doesn’t matter who invented bitcoin.

It very much matters. Because once you realize who and why they created Bitcoin, you realize it is the 666 system:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4920367.msg44663327#msg44663327

Follow-up detail:

https://steemit.com/cryptocurrency/@anonymint/re-anonymint-re-anonymint-re-anonymint-re-anonymint-re-goldgoatsnguns-re-anonymint-re-anonymint-re-anonymint-bitcoin-rises-because-land-is-becoming-worthless-20180817t223047836z
https://steemit.com/cryptocurrency/@anonymint/re-anonymint-re-anonymint-re-anonymint-re-anonymint-re-goldgoatsnguns-re-anonymint-re-anonymint-re-anonymint-bitcoin-rises-because-land-is-becoming-worthless-20180719t201058574z
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4920367.msg44422077#msg44422077
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4920367.msg44562788#msg44562788
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4920367.msg44570385#msg44570385
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4920367.msg44577423#msg44577423

Related information:

https://steemit.com/cryptocurrency/@anonymint/bitcoin-rises-because-land-is-becoming-worthless
https://steemit.com/money/@anonymint/get-ready-for-a-world-currency
https://steemit.com/bitcoin/@anonymint/the-real-bitcoin-which-bitcoin-fork-will-win
https://steemit.com/cryptocurrency/@anonymint/shocking-crisis-coming-to-cryptocurrency-in-sept

Those who created Bitcoin also did this:

https://steemit.com/politics/@anonymint/succinct-absolute-truth-about-9-11-and-las-vegas-massacre
https://steemit.com/money/@anonymint/countries-vulnerable-to-economic-devastation-soon
https://steemit.com/psychology/@anonymint/you-can-t-handle-the-truth
https://steemit.com/funny/@anonymint/don-t-ask-don-t-tell


Title: Re: [Debunked] Definitive proof that Satoshi Nakamoto is James A. Donald.
Post by: EmmaBen on October 25, 2018, 06:57:23 PM
Does it really matter whether Satoshi Nakamoto is this or that?
It is clear that that name "Satoshi Nakamoto" is a Pseudonym, and for very obvious and credible reasons. But why should an American or Australian or Britain, despite the many other American or Australian or British Pseudonyms opt for Japanese?


Title: Re: [Debunked] Definitive proof that Satoshi Nakamoto is James A. Donald.
Post by: EmmaBen on October 26, 2018, 10:41:31 PM
I see no reason why this should be heated up. Whether it is Satoshi Nakamoto or James A. Donald does not matter any more. And I do not believe they are one and the same persons.


Title: Re: [Debunked] Definitive proof that Satoshi Nakamoto is James A. Donald.
Post by: Minhxx on October 27, 2018, 03:19:17 AM
Actually I do not care about this. They are the ones who believe in and invest in the first bitcoin that they have some huge assets that are accurate, which will make them unsafe if the identity is public.


Title: Re: [Debunked] Definitive proof that Satoshi Nakamoto is James A. Donald.
Post by: doublespend timestamp on November 24, 2018, 09:31:19 PM

James Allen Bowery = James A. Donald = Satoshi Nakamoto = edifying conversations with himself to teach what he knew and had proven?

https://bitcoin.org/bitcoin.pdf

https://twitter.com/jabowery

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=563xZAV6C-M&t=6682s

https://satoshi.nakamotoinstitute.org/code/


Title: Re: [Debunked] Definitive proof that Satoshi Nakamoto is James A. Donald.
Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on November 24, 2018, 10:25:23 PM

James Allen Bowery = James A. Donald = Satoshi Nakamoto = edifying conversations with himself to teach what he knew and had proven?

https://bitcoin.org/bitcoin.pdf

https://twitter.com/jabowery

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=563xZAV6C-M&t=6682s

https://satoshi.nakamotoinstitute.org/code/

Odd how newbie comes along and post disconnect stuff akin to the OP of this thread (hindsight being 20/20).

BTW, my new theory is that this James is behind the SN pseudonym: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Harris_Simons. Such ticks all the buttons including as to why Halloween 2008, was chosen as the date to release the infamous Bitcoin White Paper.


Title: Re: [Debunked] Definitive proof that Satoshi Nakamoto is James A. Donald.
Post by: doublespend timestamp on November 24, 2018, 10:53:00 PM
https://postimg.cc/YGGPWHjK

https://postimg.cc/SJMypBGP

You do very fast research.  

Is Mr. Simons a world-renowned C++ coder too, as Bowery is?


Wiki says: "Simons is a major contributor to Democratic Party political action committees ... Simons has donated $7 million to Hillary Clinton's

Priorities USA Action ... ."


I guess he has abandoned his libertarian ideals since incarnating online as Satoshi.


Believe it or not, I found your thread after comparing Donald's, Nakamoto's and Bowery's writings, with some

personal time-appropriate knowledge from ten years ago to the month thrown in.  Thanks for this thread, though.  Really.


I was one of the first few hundred people to download the BTC software and receive BTC's.

Bowery is followed on twitter by Nick Szabo and Steve Sailer.  You can see yourself.


Title: Re: [Debunked] Definitive proof that Satoshi Nakamoto is James A. Donald.
Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on November 25, 2018, 12:32:45 AM
https://postimg.cc/YGGPWHjK

https://postimg.cc/SJMypBGP

You do very fast research.  

Is Mr. Simons a world-renowned C++ coder too, as Bowery is?


Wiki says: "Simons is a major contributor to Democratic Party political action committees ... Simons has donated $7 million to Hillary Clinton's

Priorities USA Action ... ."


I guess he has abandoned his libertarian ideals since incarnating online as Satoshi.


Believe it or not, I found your thread after comparing Donald's, Nakamoto's and Bowery's writings, with some

personal time-appropriate knowledge from ten years ago to the month thrown in.  Thanks for this thread, though.  Really.


I was one of the first few hundred people to download the BTC software and receive BTC's.

Bowery is followed on twitter by Nick Szabo and Steve Sailer.  You can see yourself.

Allow me to make the Halloween connection, bud ...

Robert Leroy Mercer (born July 11, 1946) is an American computer scientist, who was a developer in early artificial intelligence and co-CEO of Renaissance Technologies, a hedge fund. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Mercer)

But first ...

Renaissance Technologies LLC is an American hedge fund firm based in East Setauket, New York, on Long Island, which specializes in systematic trading using quantitative models derived from mathematical and statistical analyses. The company was founded in 1982 by James Simons, an award-winning mathematician and former Cold War code breaker. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Renaissance_Technologies)

https://www.politico.com/story/2016/12/trump-party-donors-villains-heroes-mercers-232156

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The Mercers have hosted the party at their estate on Long Island’s North Shore around the holidays in each of the past several years.

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The family patriarch, hedge fund tycoon Robert Mercer, donated $2 million to a pro-Trump super PAC that came to be run by his daughter Rebekah Mercer, who controls the family’s political operations.

Rebekah Mercer played a pivotal role in persuading Trump to bring on three close allies of hers to run the campaign — incoming White House senior counselor Bannon and top campaign officials Conway and David Bossie.

Rebekah Mercer oversees Breitbart News, of which Steve Bannon was its executive chairman. Nothing in published in Breitbart without Rebekah approval. Further, Breitbart  is extremely crypto friendly. Prior, Steve was the CEO of a company in which Brock Pierce founded, amassing millions prior to Goldman Sachs losing $60M in the said venture ...

Pierce brought in Steve Bannon, formerly of Goldman Sachs and Breitbart News, to seek venture capital and a deal was made in February 2006 yielding $60 million of which Pierce took away $20 million for a minority stake. The next year, facing a class-action lawsuit, the company failed, had no assets and Pierce was forced out. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brock_Pierce#Internet_Gaming_Entertainment)

As for my Google-fu prowess, you have one guess as to who was the key dude in exposing BP, culminating to the following ...

Pierce was elected Director of the Bitcoin Foundation in May 2014. Several members of the Bitcoin Foundation resigned after his election, due to controversy over his association with allegations of sex abuse 15 years previously, as well as concerns about other directors.[17] The organization announced its insolvency in July 2015. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brock_Pierce#Internet_Gaming_Entertainment)

I contend that James Simons put the team together that made up Satoshi Nakamoto and that Nick Szabo was the main public-facing voice behind the nym.


Title: Re: [Debunked] Definitive proof that Satoshi Nakamoto is James A. Donald.
Post by: CoinClarity on December 13, 2018, 09:48:55 AM
Hmm... make of this what you will, but it doesn't seem Bowery is too keen on accepting the idea of him being Satoshi:

https://twitter.com/jabowery/status/1073103238780596224