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Title: Could London become the capital of cryptocurrencies?
Post by: CryptoCurrencyInc.com on June 05, 2014, 05:28:45 AM
Could London become the capital of cryptocurrencies?
http://www.cityam.com/blog/1401882571/bitcoin-britain-could-london-become-capital-cryptocurrencies


Title: Re: Could London become the capital of cryptocurrencies?
Post by: Ron~Popeil on June 05, 2014, 05:31:26 AM
Could London become the capital of cryptocurrencies?
http://www.cityam.com/blog/1401882571/bitcoin-britain-could-london-become-capital-cryptocurrencies

If they do it right they will be the economic capital of the new world economy. I hope they tread lightly with the regulations.


Title: Re: Could London become the capital of cryptocurrencies?
Post by: Este Nuno on June 05, 2014, 06:48:59 AM
Could London become the capital of cryptocurrencies?
http://www.cityam.com/blog/1401882571/bitcoin-britain-could-london-become-capital-cryptocurrencies

It's good to see some positive talk from them regarding setting up a welcoming environment for innovative bitcoin companies. But I'm always skeptical that things like this will work out as well as some people intend them too. There's definitely going to be some resistance. And since like it says in the article "FCA has not yet made its official position on cryptocurrency clear" we'll just have to wait and see what happens.


Title: Re: Could London become the capital of cryptocurrencies?
Post by: bryant.coleman on June 05, 2014, 01:11:06 PM
Tax rates are too high in London, and the rules regarding Bitcoin are too vague. Also, Bitcoin-based firms in London will have to obey the EU rules on money laundering and currency exchange. So... overall not much of a chance.  >:(


Title: Re: Could London become the capital of cryptocurrencies?
Post by: Ron~Popeil on June 05, 2014, 02:18:19 PM
Tax rates are too high in London, and the rules regarding Bitcoin are too vague. Also, Bitcoin-based firms in London will have to obey the EU rules on money laundering and currency exchange. So... overall not much of a chance.  >:(

Still though positive opinions by a government body is good for bit coin's legitimacy.


Title: Re: Could London become the capital of cryptocurrencies?
Post by: ElGrandJefe on June 05, 2014, 02:19:45 PM
Could London become the capital of cryptocurrencies?
http://www.cityam.com/blog/1401882571/bitcoin-britain-could-london-become-capital-cryptocurrencies

Nope. A true cryptocurrency should never have a capital.


Title: Re: Could London become the capital of cryptocurrencies?
Post by: DolanDuck on June 05, 2014, 02:27:17 PM
Bitcoin and cryptos don't need capitals, they are built to be free, like a bird in the sky, like a cow on the hills, like women in the kitchens.


Title: Re: Could London become the capital of cryptocurrencies?
Post by: Baitty on June 05, 2014, 02:28:38 PM
Tax rates are too high in London, and the rules regarding Bitcoin are too vague. Also, Bitcoin-based firms in London will have to obey the EU rules on money laundering and currency exchange. So... overall not much of a chance.  >:(

Tax rates are HUGE in london and they will never be the 'capital' of Bitcoin or any other coins.


Title: Re: Could London become the capital of cryptocurrencies?
Post by: Este Nuno on June 05, 2014, 02:53:25 PM
Could London become the capital of cryptocurrencies?
http://www.cityam.com/blog/1401882571/bitcoin-britain-could-london-become-capital-cryptocurrencies

Nope. A true cryptocurrency should never have a capital.
Bitcoin and cryptos don't need capitals, they are built to be free, like a bird in the sky, like a cow on the hills, like women in the kitchens.

Why not? What's wrong with a city embracing bitcoin and having enough merchants and services to be considered the (unofficial of course) capital of bitcoin? I would love a place like that. Some where you can go and know that you can support your self just on bitcoin.


Title: Re: Could London become the capital of cryptocurrencies?
Post by: LiteCoinGuy on June 05, 2014, 08:08:36 PM
i guess most people here undervalue the impact of such news. in my view that bigger than "xy accepts bitcoin". the regulation is the key.


The UK Digital Currency Association hailed the new guidelines as "some of the most sophisticated and forward-thinking issued by tax authorities anywhere in the world."

The move gave further legitimacy to digital currencies and it was even suggested it could lead to a "gold rush of digital currency businesses to the UK".


Title: Re: Could London become the capital of cryptocurrencies?
Post by: Ron~Popeil on June 05, 2014, 09:02:22 PM
i guess most people here undervalue the impact of such news. in my view that bigger than "xy accepts bitcoin". the regulation is the key.


The UK Digital Currency Association hailed the new guidelines as "some of the most sophisticated and forward-thinking issued by tax authorities anywhere in the world."

The move gave further legitimacy to digital currencies and it was even suggested it could lead to a "gold rush of digital currency businesses to the UK".


Yes. It is the nature of governments to regulate so the idea of them leaving it alone is a pipe dream. I just hope they tread lightly and intelligently with the regulations they do come up with.


Title: Re: Could London become the capital of cryptocurrencies?
Post by: ChuckStrawberry on June 08, 2014, 08:46:17 AM
Yes, but I see the Swiss city Zug in the pole position.


Title: Re: Could London become the capital of cryptocurrencies?
Post by: beetcoin on June 08, 2014, 04:30:09 PM
isn't the UK not so friendly to bitcoin? i'd think maybe a country like germany, or a scandanavian country might be more open to it.


Title: Re: Could London become the capital of cryptocurrencies?
Post by: NotAtOld on June 08, 2014, 06:42:30 PM
Hopefully it will be The Netherlands


Title: Re: Could London become the capital of cryptocurrencies?
Post by: beetcoin on June 08, 2014, 09:50:29 PM
Hopefully it will be The Netherlands

yeah, so we can blow all of our bitcoins by legally banging whores and doing drugs.


Title: Re: Could London become the capital of cryptocurrencies?
Post by: QuestionAuthority on June 08, 2014, 10:04:43 PM
Bitcoin and cryptos don't need capitals, they are built to be free, like a bird in the sky, like a cow on the hills, like women in the kitchens.

Free like women in the kitchens? lol


Title: Re: Could London become the capital of cryptocurrencies?
Post by: TaunSew on June 08, 2014, 10:24:18 PM
Extremely wishful thinking - London doesn't even make the top 10 on some Bitcoin lists.

Vancouver, which surprisingly has been absent in the discussion so far, is often regarded as the #1 Bitcoin city in the world.  It has the largest per capita use of Bitcoin for a large city.   It's a metropolitan of 2.4 million people and it has six Bitcoin ATMs (including the first in North America and possibly the world) and 80 merchants, the only cities with more merchants is due to having immensely larger populations than Vancouver (Greater LA which is 16.5 million and greater New York 23.5 million) but we're talking about only a couple more merchants and less ATM coverage (so arguably worse).



The capital of earth in the Mass Effect series is Vancouver.   ;)  ;D


Title: Re: Could London become the capital of cryptocurrencies?
Post by: QuestionAuthority on June 08, 2014, 10:24:50 PM
Not a chance.

The highest per capita use of Bitcoin, for a large city, is perhaps Vancouver.  Maybe Mass Effect was on to something where the capital of earth was Vancouver.   ;D  

The only downside is Canadian banks hate Bitcoin (they freeze anything dealing with the exchanges) and the next possible Prime Minister, Justin Trudeau (who'll be a spitting image of his Marxist Father), will probably be hostile to it.

 They have six Bitcoin ATMs (IIRC - first bitcoin atm on the planet) and close to 80 merchants who accept Bitcoin.  Some cities do have slightly more merchants than Vancouver but they also grossly outnumber Vancouver in population.  Vancouver is only 2.4 million people versus 8.4 million San Francisco Bay area versus 16.4 million greater Los Angeles.

Sure but in London you can buy bangers and mash with Bitcoin.

The UK deals with everything the same way the US does. Accept it, absorb it and regulate it to death. Maybe that's a colonial empire trick? Resistance is futile Bitcoin will be assimilated.


Title: Re: Could London become the capital of cryptocurrencies?
Post by: TaunSew on June 08, 2014, 10:29:40 PM
Not a chance.

The highest per capita use of Bitcoin, for a large city, is perhaps Vancouver.  Maybe Mass Effect was on to something where the capital of earth was Vancouver.   ;D  

The only downside is Canadian banks hate Bitcoin (they freeze anything dealing with the exchanges) and the next possible Prime Minister, Justin Trudeau (who'll be a spitting image of his Marxist Father), will probably be hostile to it.

 They have six Bitcoin ATMs (IIRC - first bitcoin atm on the planet) and close to 80 merchants who accept Bitcoin.  Some cities do have slightly more merchants than Vancouver but they also grossly outnumber Vancouver in population.  Vancouver is only 2.4 million people versus 8.4 million San Francisco Bay area versus 16.4 million greater Los Angeles.

Sure but in London you can buy bangers and mash with Bitcoin.

The UK deals with everything the same way the US does. Accept it, absorb it and regulate it to death. Maybe that's a colonial empire trick? Resistance is futile Bitcoin will be assimilated.

I would think Singapore would be a better contender for a Bitcoin capital than Vancouver.  Vancouver may have the highest per capita use but the law is still ambiguous and the next government could be openly hostile to it.

Which only seems ironic to me.  If Bitcoin is capital, most of that capital is technically Chinese / American / European and having it flow into Canada would be beneficial for the Canadian country (job creation and, even if it's not directly taxed, would increase the tax coffers), but I wouldn't put it past a moronic politician to ruin a good thing.
 


Title: Re: Could London become the capital of cryptocurrencies?
Post by: newIndia on June 08, 2014, 10:30:16 PM
Could London become the capital of cryptocurrencies?
http://www.cityam.com/blog/1401882571/bitcoin-britain-could-london-become-capital-cryptocurrencies

It is far easier to operate a Bitcoin business from Cyprus & Mauritius than from London. The atmosphere is far more friendly in these 2 countries.


Title: Re: Could London become the capital of cryptocurrencies?
Post by: haploid23 on June 09, 2014, 01:52:02 AM
Why would you want a bitcoin capital, and what would that accomplish? Naming something a crypto capital is heading towards the direction of centralization. Please keep it as decentralized as possible, we don't need another "Bitcoin Foundation" version 2.0.


Title: Re: Could London become the capital of cryptocurrencies?
Post by: twistyfy on June 09, 2014, 02:03:57 AM
Could London become the capital of cryptocurrencies?
http://www.cityam.com/blog/1401882571/bitcoin-britain-could-london-become-capital-cryptocurrencies

It's a good possibility. They just have to play their cards right.


Title: Re: Could London become the capital of cryptocurrencies?
Post by: Beliathon on June 09, 2014, 03:00:14 AM
>>"Could London become the capital of cryptocurrencies?"

No. Earth is already the capital of cryptocurrencies.


Title: Re: Could London become the capital of cryptocurrencies?
Post by: freebitcoins4u on June 09, 2014, 06:03:42 AM
if they regulate then the price will go up becuase it will me btc more legitimate currency


Title: Re: Could London become the capital of cryptocurrencies?
Post by: bryant.coleman on June 09, 2014, 06:02:37 PM
Tax rates are too high in London, and the rules regarding Bitcoin are too vague. Also, Bitcoin-based firms in London will have to obey the EU rules on money laundering and currency exchange. So... overall not much of a chance.  >:(

Still though positive opinions by a government body is good for bit coin's legitimacy.

Positive opinion by the government officials don't mean anything, unless we have a written agreement. These people can change their opinion anytime they want. Positive opinion can suddenly become negative opinion.


Title: Re: Could London become the capital of cryptocurrencies?
Post by: gentlemand on June 09, 2014, 06:08:54 PM
Not a single UK bank seems to want to play ball with crypto businesses. London's going to be left far, far behind.


Title: Re: Could London become the capital of cryptocurrencies?
Post by: Ron~Popeil on June 09, 2014, 08:50:34 PM
Not a single UK bank seems to want to play ball with crypto businesses. London's going to be left far, far behind.

So is the US I think. Though one could argue that banks being interested in bit coin is not a good thing anyway.


Title: Re: Could London become the capital of cryptocurrencies?
Post by: gentlemand on June 09, 2014, 09:01:42 PM
The US is a comparative BTC paradise. I'm not sure there's a single above-board crypto business that's maintained a business bank account anywhere in Britain.

A full crypto economy would be great but it's going to have interaction with regular currencies for the foreseeable future so banking relationships will be a necessity for many.


Title: Re: Could London become the capital of cryptocurrencies?
Post by: Erdogan on June 10, 2014, 12:11:08 AM
Why would you want a bitcoin capital, and what would that accomplish? Naming something a crypto capital is heading towards the direction of centralization. Please keep it as decentralized as possible, we don't need another "Bitcoin Foundation" version 2.0.

Right, we don't need no stinkin capital city. We need world.



Title: Re: Could London become the capital of cryptocurrencies?
Post by: Swordsoffreedom on June 10, 2014, 06:27:19 AM
They have a long way to go to compete with the development in Canada
But that said the industry is young and their certainly is a possibility that they could rise up to the capital status
London is a historical financial hub and capital so if it becomes one for crypto as well that would be neat.


Title: Re: Could London become the capital of cryptocurrencies?
Post by: Ron~Popeil on June 10, 2014, 07:06:33 AM
They have a long way to go to compete with the development in Canada
But that said the industry is young and their certainly is a possibility that they could rise up to the capital status
London is a historical financial hub and capital so if it becomes one for crypto as well that would be neat.

Vancouver would be a good candidate for Canada. Toronto is not far behind though.


Title: Re: Could London become the capital of cryptocurrencies?
Post by: DooMAD on June 10, 2014, 04:18:40 PM
The Isle of Man have thrown their hat into the ring (http://www.coindesk.com/isle-man-outlines-plans-digital-currency-regulation/).  They've probably got a better chance of attracting new businesses than London because of lower taxes and costs.