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CoinTropololis_JustaBit Banned!

"As a result of some of my contacts I have come across an incredible opportunity for the community.

This opportunity will provide more exposure than any alt today, and will rival Bitcoin itself.

The problem is I need BTC to make it happen. I have plenty that I could convert to BTC, but taking this much to an exchange(s) would for sure be a huge dump.

I need 400 BTC and I was hoping that I community members would trade me directly for NXT (off exchange). My reputation alone should be enough to get this done.

For the first 400 BTC only (it is all I need, anything over will be returned), I will give a NXT / BTC 0.000095 exchange rate. So for each 1 BTC you get 10,526 NXT. This is first come first serve, the only request is you don't go dump it at an exchange the second you get it (the karma gods are watching!!!).

I feel I can do this deal because I know this is going to boost the value of NXT exponentially.

To participate send BTC to REMOVED FOR NOW and then PM me (all payouts will happen within a few hours of me confirming the deposit came from you). Only the first 400 BTC will be eligible, any after that I will return to the originating address!

Scammers don't bother sending me a PM trying to get me to send NXT first, with my reputation this deal is BTC first.

Thanks to all!"

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John (Peter Manglaviti) was essentially the public leader of NxT, he was the one who represented NxT's booth at several public conferences / expos and seminars and he was the man the public dealt with.  For all intensive purposes, while he may not had been a developer, he was essentially the public face of NxT.  He was the man the public saw at anything NxT and he was the one persuading people to buy it.


You assume it's just the BTC stolen.  Probably ran off with all the NxT he collected as well.  You assume "John" (Peter Manglaviti) is his real identity.  Linkedin profiles are easily just as faked as Facebook profiles.  The best fake linkedin profiles are those which combine truth with outright lies.

John wouldn't be the first person who thinks he can scam investors and get away with it.  After all, has the Visacoin guy gone to jail yet?  Has anyone actually gone to jail?  Even just one person?

 The statue of limitations for these sort of crimes is 7 years or less.  The time to investigate, acquire the evidence, book a court room hearing, et cetera, can take years, that's even IF the police can be bother to actually to issue a warrant.  They generally don't go after 'small fish' like John.  


 The only people who have been arrested in crypto currencies has been people like Charlie Shrem and mainly due to drugs / DEA.  I've yet to hear of a crypto scammer who has gone to jail, even with their personal details wide out in the open.

That so reminds me of a Seinfeld episode...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iq8gfaFqFpI

this requires clarification.

John 'Justabit' Peter Manglaviti is NOT the public leader of NXT.  He arrived fairly recently and managed to get the community to fund a trip to london where he 'represented' NXT at a conference called PayExpo.  Fact is he openly admits he is neutral to all projects and that he is some kind of promotional mercenary for cryptocoins(his company is called Cointropolis).  Most of the people I knew from the project hardly even knew him or what he was up to.  ASMOF, about a week ago I publicly repudiated him and officially distanced myself(there is a record of this on the NXT forums).  I made it 100% clear that I have nothing to do with this person and I did it at the height of the recent price inflation at my own personal cost.

Some stories had emerged on the forums regarding his involvement with Feathercoin and Peercoin that suggested he was responsible for pumping up the price and then feigned ignorance when the price later collapsed. I personally greatly disliked his style of working(I wasnt the only one) and I demanded that some of the claims made against him be explored properly.

We have not yet determined whether this particular incident was a hacker or not.

-bm

Has it been proven that it was really John? A quick read of the posted thread sounds like he might have been hacked.

there are also some significant questions regarding his claims to a deal struck with GoCoin...

Well I mean obviously he was hacked, noone would ever pull off the "slowroll" to build rep for a decent sized heist, #sarcasmoff

I don't dismiss hack defenses but the hack defense never looks credible when it is applied to someone lacking in credibility.  If we take BM's word, then John was never a credible person to begin with.   Anyone can hack themselves with TOR and claim someone else did it.  

It vaguely echos Fuserleer from eMunie who recently claimed to had been hacked, but this was a guy who was accused back in February of lying on his linkedin, posting on whitehat-blackhat forums, had a court order against him from paypal and was accused of stealing thousands on other internet websites.

I'm less familiar with this John, as he came into NxT long after I did, but I have a haunch that there was no hack.

he kept announcing over and over again that 'there was going to be a big announcement', and finally announced that GoCoin would be supporting NXT.  As it stands, some community members had been raising some interesting questions as to whether this claim was actually true(or to what extent it was true).  Note also that this hype corresponded to a significant price increase in NXT.

for instance if you search on NXT and GoCoin on Twitter, you don't find any actual announcements from GoCoin https://twitter.com/search?q=GoCoin%20NXT&src=typd , only announcements from NXT people.  Wouldn't GoCoin announce NXT support?

I think the language on the forums do suggest this was a hacker, however I also have to admit these sorts of incidents seem to follow John around.

-bm

i hope anyone that invests in IPO's learns a lesson..

no, he did recently do some fund raising using the NXT asset exchange.

-bm

What was it then?  Until this story is cleared up, we can assume all the NxT that went into the Cointropolis Asset is gone.  As well as any private investors into Cointropolis.

I believe so, but again it seems anything this guy does is surrounded by a million questions.  Why would rickyjames continually raise this?  is he obsessed?

I did check up with some of the claims regarding Feathercoin and the stuff he was doing there was EXACTLY the same things he was doing on the NXT forums.

-bm

Over 1+ million NxT - which a guesstimate is somewhere a bit under $80K or $90K.  Then the 200 BTC on top he just stole.

As I said no one has gone to jail yet for scamming in crypto.  Charlie Shrem is currently in court (unless it already ended) but that was due to being arrested by the DEA / drug enforcement agency.

Mark Karpeles got off with tens of millions.  There are lesser scammers, even going years back, who stole six figures and nothing happened to them - despite all the evidence and incriminating public information

yes if he were to just disappear right now, he would probably have at least 200k usd in btc in his pocket.  He was also recently asking for donations on the forums.

-bm

it was called a "unicorn blessing" ? any other terms you wanna make up for the word scam ?

use your brains or don't.. but don't you god damn dare come in the forum and start crying and whining like a little whiny suckholes when you get ripped off
and THAT IS WHAT HAPPENS DAILY ..non fucking stop !
Stupid fucking morons buy into IPO clone coin ponzi schemes then the get ripped off and come in here creating topics in CAPS begging for sympathy.
And sorry but i don't need your little warning topics that so & so and his coin is a scammer.. no shit dumb ass why do think i avoided in from the start ?

wanna gamble with ponzi scheme clone coin ipo scams then stfu when you get burned idiots.. i don't wanna see you crying like a baby in here later Wink
like you guys ALWAYS do  Roll Eyes

edit:
and yeah it's copied and pasted wonder why ?

I heard one lee guy invested 50 btc into this...... ffs

No oversight on the asset exchange and then investor euphoria - you end up with these stories.  That lee guy gave John 50 BTC but we don't know how much Lee invested into the cointropolis asset or if he had gave prior money to John.

This is all bigger than you all think.  John likely got off with $250K+.

Wow it seems like trust rules above common sense.

I've never understood why people don't just throw 0.05btc wait for coins back and then slowly build up.  One guy threw 20btc at the guy without making any checks.

The scam boxes are all ticked:
He's posting behind a tor
he promises massive riches but no safety net
he didn't use his normal writing style
he's un-contactable except through pm
he's not using his normal bitcoin account... the list goes on.

The great part is they only had to compromise his email account, from that they had his forum details and his twitter account (by asking for a password reset). 

Just feel that NXT is very dirty.

Lots of other coins have had their controversies.  It's an unregulated environment.

Wow just wow....202 BTC sent to the supposed BTC address.

I had a bad feeling about that guy from the start.  Most of the NXT people talk it up, but he was screaming how great it is.  Anytime somebody is screaming on these forums I think it is a scam.  But so far all the NXT people have been really honest and generally involved in the tech.  This guy though didn't have anything to do with developing.  So sad that one guy can pump the price so high and then rip people off. 

It was a hacker which toke the control of Jhon's account, wasn't it? That could happen to anyone.... what we should do now is verify the identity when one of the community members asks for this amount of money.
It was a Hacker which have nothing to do with nxt security or the integrity of this guy... Is like one reputable member of btc community get hacked and ask for funds, no one doubt about his good intentios and everyone send money thinking that is the real account owner

Who will recover losses? CoinTropolis team should take care about scam consequencies.

There's no ascertained hacker - only speculation at the moment as no one can apparently get a hold of him.  John is apparently on the world's longest flight, probably has zipped around the equator a few times.   ;)

Shouldn't people have John's phone number?

BM's theory is likely the correct one - John is a crooked guy who saw an opportunity to build hype and now he's gone (in the wind) with $200K+.  He'll probably infiltrate another coin community and try to get money off them.

Holy crap!
It's Pirate all over again... There you go, people dealing with scamcoins, this is what you get.

Parazyd, are you retarded? What has this to do with NXT? The same in the same exactly terms could be performed for BTC.

NXT stands clean. It is just greedy people who get assf**ed.

NXT doesn't care, NXT is a technology, like any other, and better than most if not the best. NXT/BTC going up steadily.

...until someone sells more than 100 NXT at once and hiccups the thin market  ::)

However i cant believe one thing. If there is so high virtual market cap and so low liquidity why there is no rat which sells its stake and gets it before the others can do. (and lets the others to cry over the value of their bag thousand times less than before). It is a really well working trust, sad but respect to this trust... Because one rat with so high bag can destroy the whole value being the only one profit maker. With so high bag you can just troll the other stakeholders. I think it didnt happen just because the liquidity is so low that even the one rat cant sell its bag. Or - more probable - just because the biggest bagholders are one big group, family or just one guy. The technical analysis of market value vs. price per NXT is the best evidence of this.

BTW this is not off-topic the weird liquidity was the only reason why this scam succeeded (and peoples stupidity of course).

Again a scamcoin in action, really wondering when this is gonna stop.
These things really hurt the trust in eachother :(

Ive been scammed myself, and i really felt terrible.

You do realize that BITCOINS were stolen, right?

I bet my balls that the guy up and will even convince idiots that was hacked.

The hacker has sent himself bitcoins to this adress. We know about 70~ coins that are lost

It is so sad to watch some bitcoin guys trying so hard to rationalize why they did not buy in NXT sooner, or being afraid they are never going to repay their ASIC ..


arbitrary messages, alias system, asset exchange (with ton of great projects being funded), NO GHash.IO, multigateway (decentralized currency exchange) in beta test .. stable network with ~1 min blocks and instant transactions in development

it is going to get really hard for you ..

(that is the reason why no one is selling and this minor scam affair is not going to change it)

Here are some observations:

1)  It appears the majority of the btc in the account belong to the scammer and was used to "prime the pump" and create a sense of "social proof" to make it seem legit.  The bitcoins were sent into the account in roughly 3 min and roughly 15 min intervals which is weird.... statistically, it doesn't appear to be statistically probable that random people around the world would just send btc in precise time intervals like that which leads me to think that probably 175 of the those 202 btc already belong to the scammer.

2)  There has NOT been conclusive evidence that John Manglaviti is guilty nor innoccent.  I have friends sitting in u.s. prisons for being accused of drug crimes in which they did not commit or even know about so let's make sure we have irrefutable evidence before we start making judgement or accusations.

Having "feelings about the guy" or he "screaming about how great he was" will probably not constitute as "evidence" in most people's eyes or in any court.

3) I personally know that nearly half a dozen people are in direct contact with John investigating this matter at the moment and they will probably share their findings once they have some solid proof of guilt or innocence.

4)  John is not the "public face" or "public figure" or "leader" of nxt.  We have ricky james, myself, brian snyder, etc. and many others who have spoken publicly about nxt.  does that make us the public figure of nxt? probably not.  all it means is that we spoke about nxt in public.  Don't kid yourself about this "public" or "leader" nonsense.

5) Some say, "The statue of limitations for these sort of crimes is 7 years or less."  This is not true. In the U.S. if the police does not know that a crime existed there is no statue of limitation.  A statue of limitation begins when the police are fully aware that a crime happened and chose not to pursue it. in this case, a crime has occurred but no one knows who is the perpetrator so the crime can be picked up at any time when the police decide to investigate it.

6) The nxt community is made up of very talented and smart individuals n fairly experienced in crypto.  Accusing the nxt community of being foolish about giving up 200 btc to a scammer is retarded especiallly when the majority of the btc in the scammer's account was owned by the scammer himself.  Let's not make a mountain out of an ant hill.

7)  The best way to clear up this mess n move on is not to make accusations but to put yourself in the shoes of John and ask yourself.... if you were innocent... what would you do to provide conclusive evidence that you were innocent to the community?  Then ask John to provide the evidence.
If John is guilty then I do hope he gets what he deserves.  However, if he is innocent, it would be a shame to slam an innocent person with a lifetime ban in crypto.

My comments here are just my opinions based on the experiences I've had with the U.S. federal court systems.  Do not think that I believe John to be innocent or guilty.  I am simply stating what i observe and investigating the truth as well.

Tai Zen

and btw
gocoin is integrating NXT (https://twitter.com/GoCoin/status/478603222945644544)

I know firsthand that NXT was created as a 100% scam coin, but still can be used if the community want to push it forward. They made a lot of money out of the suckers.

U obviously have no idea what u talking about. nice post for a good laugh though :D

I know what I am talking about :)

The bigger the effort the more you can make, I am not saying it was a effortless scam, these guys deserved it!  
They are the wolf of wallstreet in the alt world.

NEM will be Wolf of Wallstreet 2 on a lot larger scaler then NXT. 25% of BTCTALK will be hyping it when it's released as part of PMs to high profile community members who have been convinced to invest and join the ranks. NEM will be the ultimate scam... once again well deserved.

define "scam", KenChanYu. so u say a distribution of hundred percent proof of stake coin is to be regarded as scam a priori? that is a very weak argument needless to say definition of scam.

You going to be very dissapointed if you end up bagholding this one. ;)

U did not reply to my request of elaborating ur premise the slightest bit, why is that?

I repeat in case u overlook.  define "scam", KenChanYu. so u say a distribution of hundred percent proof of stake coin is to be regarded as scam a priori? that is a very weak argument, not to mention "definition" of scam.

You're hilarious!

That was a good laugh! hahaha

Tai Zen

Following the retards logic:

BTC IS A FAIL!!!! LOOK 202 BTC WERE STOLEN. NXT IS AWESOME, NOT A SINGLE NXT STOLEN IN THAT SCAM!

fail....

Also: This was a successful scammer, not a failed currency.

NXT was always  a scam. Anyone who actually bought NXT, I have two words for you: SELL NOW!!

I got 3 words for you:
FUCK OFF TROLL


Srsly, read some of this guys posting history!

I just sold my remaining NXT before the price reaches 1 satoshi. This coin is dying fast, SELL NOW!!

FYP

Just got my friends to sell all their NXT, they got out early, you can too. SELL NOW!!!

NXT is crashing, price dropped 70%, SELL NOW!!!

According to Darkota, in crypto world the coins die when they INCREASE in price!!!! Hahaha

NXT +200% last month. Check the charts.

300million NXT was just sold today....NXT is dead.

Looks like you want cheap coins. Doesn't seem to be working tho.

1.  I want to let everyone know that myself, QBTC, Uniqueorn, and Damelon have been on video conference with John to investigate this matter.  The others will confirm what I say when we finish the talk with John.

2.  We are trying to be as neutral as possible to investigate this matter.  So far John has answered all our questions and has been very cooperative and has not been evasive in his answers.  He has been open to volunteer access to his personal emails, computers, etc for forensics review.

3.  We will figure out what we need from John to investigate this matter further and he is being cooperative and open to give us access to his personal accounts because he wants his name cleared.

Please give us some time so we can review and research this matter.

Thanks for your patience.

Tai Zen

Hi Tai!

when are you posting this video to the internet for everyone to view?

-bm

Any suit filing? IMO, Its a clear case of cheating and can be push to legal action.

We have been talking with John for more than one hour and I've been very pleased with his transparency and willingness to help resolve this unfortunate situation.

Time for a swift quote from Tai Zen methinks.

I am surprised that we still have posters on BTT who keep on trotting out the old "NXT is a scamcoin" routine. You'd have thought they'd have given up by now......

Anyhow: this scam had precisely f**k all to do with the NXT technology itself. Just people, mail, forum, Twitter, and BTC....NXT hardly got a look in.

it should be 100% clear that QBTC is a member of Cointropolis.

-bm

BM....u cannot expect that they recorded the conference call ?
Sheesh....I'll trust Tai Zen and QBTC to figure it out.

EDIT: I mean it, QBTC is very seriously straight. She's worked with J+Cointrop (and a lot of other people), but that won't be a factor.

+2

+4

don't know about QBTC, only that John declared she was part of the team some time ago.  Not exactly an impartial judge of this.

yes I expect them to record the questioning.  How do we know this isn't a kangaroo court?

-bm

LoL. Or put another way, 3,000,000 NxT was just bought !  ;)

Not bad volume if true.

This guy is the major public face of NXT.

He was at the convention booth promoting NXT as the public face of NXT.

Again - proof NXT is to the core a scam - he knew it and wanted BTC only.

Agreed that this person is absolutely NOT a good person to be representing this project.  He even admits that he's not committed to NXT.

-bm

You got time on your hands then ?

The only thing it's proof of is how desperate some people are getting in their little private crusades to scrape up any morsel of adversarial gossip they can get their hands on to undermine their pet cryptocurrency hates.

Make sure you milk it now. Never know when your next meal's gonna be ;)

So, a flood of NXT isn't about to hit the market then?

Wow this whole thread only dropped the price of NXT at most 4%, smaller than the average intra-day variability.

You know how I can tell NXT isn't a "scam"? Its price barely budges regardless of how many haters come out of the woodwork to rip on it.

Scamcoins drop at the first whiff that the jig might be up.

So go ahead, hate away all day. You guys seem to be driving the price of NXT up instead of down by increasing awareness of NXT, so thanks for that.

ya those 2 cent USD sells sure are keeping this market in shape.

-bm

Lots of people have represented NXT.....and John has represented more than NXT as well. Johns done NXT promo at Miami Bitcoin, TrekCon and PayExpo, so he's been present at less than 50% of the conferences NXT has attended, and always as part of a team. There's no way i'd call him the public face of NXT, let alone leader.

He and Cointropolis do have their own agenda, but up until now Cointrop and NXT worked well together. Hopefully still will in the future.
Personally, I find it very hard to believe that he ran the scam himself. Even if he netted the full 400 BTC he was aiming for, thats still only $240,000.
It's enough to have to run quite a long way to get away, but not enough to get you very far.

But: He and Cointropolis stand to gain so much more than that over the next few years, as crypto hits the mainstream. Even if NXT disappeared up it's own Genesis block tomorrow, Cointropolis could move on to represent other coins, 'coz thats what they do: alt-coin PR agency.
Being caught scamming so openly would be the end of their reputation and business, and that biz could be huge.
Johns not stupid, I can't see him throwing away massive longterm potential for short term gain and a massive shitstorm.

I'm going for the sneaky NXT insider/hack theory, until I see any actual evidence one way or the other.

 

these excuses are making the NXT community look like a den of vipers.  Didn't it already have that reputation?

-bm

Gee, I guess the price action of NXT reflects your rippage pretty accurately, huh.

Yep, NXT, joined the ranks of all those other failed coins and dropped to the single-digit satoshis for good.. Oh, it didn't? Oh sorry I must be in a parallel universe too.

a low volume market can be fabricated fairly cheaply.

-bm

Well if NXT is a scam they sure have gone through great lengths to cover it up. Most of the other scamcoins unravel at the first signs of their scammage. I just find it odd that you and a handful of other characters are constantly trashing NXT yet you have very little effect on its price action. I guess nobody gets it except you guys, right?

I don't get why people that hate a currency so wholeheartedly not just dump their stack and move on? Is that too hard?

If you can't see past your "unfair distribution" and "inflated price", then just move on... please.

Thanks a lot for making this point. It's one I have trouble remembering sometimes, and we all need the reminder. "Lynch mobs" are typecast for a reason...

it doesn't cost that much, so 'great lengths' isn't quite accurate here.

eg. the fees on BTER for NXT is 0.18%.  Thus if the price was slipping, I simply put out a small sale of say 500 NXT and then take that sale with another account.  Cost here is roughly 9 NXT which is a few cents USD.  A relatively small operation could sustain that for months.  Of course if such an operation were to detect that people were no longer buying in, they would shut down the operation, let the price fall and get in a new round of people.  Look for support offers of much larger amounts.  If you are looking to get out of a pump and dump, just catch those support orders which they don't expect people to take(because they are below the apparent 'market price').  To take those order you need to be convinced you're in a pump and dump.

-bm

That would only increase volume, not more...

And as you said, we have low volume, so no manipulation there.

What your are trying to say maybe is, that the big holders made a syndicate to manipulate the price by artificially decrease the money supply. But even that only works if all agree, typical prisoner dilemma.

HA!

You clearly don't understand what Im saying.

It doesn't increase volume.  It's generally not possible to increase volume without spending money.  It is possible to create an illusory trading price by creating low volume orders that you intend to take yourself(only cost here is the transaction fee).

A common tactic to is create 'support orders' which are larger orders below the market price to make it appear as though there is demand.  These orders are never taken and if the apparent price gets near the 'buy wall' then they take it down and move it.  One way to beat this pattern, given that you're convinced it's being pumped, is to grab those large orders before they can take it down.  If you do this enough the pumping operation must shut down.

-bm

a good sign that the pumping is ending is the support walls are VERY FAR from the apparent ticker price.

-bm

I mean I knew that you were not up-to speed on things, but now you are clearly going into the "delustional trader" territory. Every price rise is a pump and every decline is a dump. Every market must be manipulated in a grand fashion right?

Yeah NXT must be like all the other shitcopypastcoins, right?
Nothing sets NXT apart from those, right?

Most people hold NXT because they think the technology is superior. People that are constantly talking about the price don't give a shit about the technology, you seem that way.

TwinWinNerD, you already demonstrated you have no idea what you're talking about so resorting to name calling doesn't win you anything.

-bm

Hmm, I just re-read my post and can't find an insult, but whatever.

Just read your "blog".

Gonna stop the "discussion" here. Got better things to do...

This x 1000.

Coinmarketcap needs to adjust the market cap for non-liquid insta-mined coins.

The volume today for NXT in the past 24 hours was $140,000

The volume today for LTC in the past 24 hours was $2,500,000.00

The volume today for BTC in the past 24 hours was $26,000,000.00

NXT should not be top ten.

Really there are no coins that approach the liquidity and transparency of BTC and LTC.

Nothing can touch them, and NXT market cap is fake, just like its leader.  It says a lot when the leader of NXT is scamming everyone in a desperate attempt to get some Bitcoins, and then the NXT community are like - "big deal it is only $250,000....

If you actually tried to sell that much NXT it would collapse the market.

BTC and LTC remain the only real coins.

for all Intensive purposes?

this makes me lol

intents and purposes, fool

Posted From bitcointalk.org Android App

it's already been stated that it's very difficult to get OUT of NXT once you're in.

-bm

I would revise that to BTC is the only real coin.

And it would appear that theyre trying to swat down the price right now.

-bm

"leader"? This guy even said it is just a Job for him and he doesn't care for the currencies he is involved in. And it was most likely not even him, but a hacked account.

If you want to sell 10 M of NXT you can just do it off-exchange...

that's not exactly encouraging.

you're saying to liquidate a significant amount of NXT I need to personally find someone willing to buy and I have no guarantee that person exists.

that's the sort of thing that sends investors running.  You're not doing NXT any favors here, TWN.

-bm

Yeah, and BTC was SOOOOO liquid after 8 months.

Please fk off troll. Kthx bye.

The correct was the guy who supposedly lost password reimburse the sheeps.

another sign that NXT (http://www.nxtscam.org) are essentially worthless.

-bm

I am confused. I thought you are a Nxt developer for virtual corporation or something.

the project has been overtaken by scam (http://www.nxtscam.org/) artists.  There are good people in NXT (http://www.nxtscam.org/).  The forums at this point are virtually unusable.

note that John (http://www.nxtscam.org/2014/10/john-manglaviti.html) never mentioned Virtual Corporations.  There is a reason for that.

-bm

note that my bad karma on there continues to be marked even though I haven't participated in some time.

-bm

If this john fellow was in fact a scammer than that is unfortunate, but what does this really change? is the code any different than it was yesterday? is the technology any different? did we suddenly not solve the proof of stake problem? everyone should quit being so dramatic and just for christ sake, use escrow next time.

That would make a good feature in a altcoin. Send "coins" with scrow and reputation system. Who has the best reputation can mediate and receive a commission if the parties do not reach an agreement.

This doesn't need to be a feature of a coin built into the protocol. Can be solved with a service on top.

When i develop my shitcoin, I'll add in the protocol. ;D

Every coin will experience a scandal sooner or later. It's rather unavoidable...

Does anyone know if he actually received any BTC from users? Since the address was removed I can't look at how much it received.

how is this scam on NXT? This could have happend with any coin :)

The question is whether John is the Monica Lewinsky of the NXT or Bill Clinton  :D

Scandal, not scam. Read better ;)

@funnynews: :D

Oh, yeah. It indeed turned out to be a scandal. But the price doesn't give a shit. :D

I'm certainly not selling. Who cares about some stupid scammer. It doesn't change anything.

you dont think this will effect people's tendency to trust the project's claims?

-bm

projects don't make claims.

It still very early in the game...
But you will see scores of ordinary First Adopters jailed for tax evasion.

It's ridiculously easy to prove...
An IRS examiner will probably know within 15 minutes of meeting you...
How much you've been spending... and where did it come from... and who is your accountant? 
Anon coins won't help you much if you have an expensive lifestyle... like a nice house and family.

There is a whole legal sub-industry called "IRS Whistleblower Attorneys"...
And they are just gearing up to throw a big net over the Rich Lists.

http://www.offshoretaxevasion.com/

Fuck me!! 

Wasnt this massive trash-talker "bluemeanie1" paid to do some coding for NXT???

What the fuck?? If i am right, for me it is much worse than the stupid scam that is discussed in this thread.

How can be that a paid NXT developer is trolling and talking like this??

I hope i am wrong and he was never ever been paid...  :-\

Why all this hysteria? NXT is doing good, nothing's broken, core devs (CfB, JeanLuc, Wesleyh) are working their asses off to deliver on the promised features. Just relax.

This was one scam, and the mods are working out the details right now but it is looking like John's email account was hacked.

Not sure why this is pushing you to trash talk NXT though. Every successful project will unfortunately attract unsavory types, we just have to be more diligent in the future. You wouldn't consider BCT "unusable" with all the IPO scams around, would you? No, people (hopefully) adapt and learn.

I also don't see the connection between John and Virtual Corporations.

Pandaisftw

Yeah people make mistakes and this looks like one.

I wouldn't trust the opinion of someone who changes his mind more often than he changes his underwear.... because frankly most of what he says 'stinks' right now based on how he 'wormed' his way into the NXT community.

Unfortunately the forums seem to be full of people who get all bitter and twisted at times and then try to trash things purely because they think it will benefit them in someway...

If you look at his posts on nxtforum, he was increasingly adversarial to the community in the last few weeks. This was only a matter of time.

Seriously, I would be ok with that if they would at least be intelligent about it. But when someone pulls a scam on the nxt forum == nxt is a scam, and going down, and distribution, and stuff. And they believe their own shit.
I simply can't stand stupid and irrational.

because NXT is just a big scam and he is smart enough to realize it and distance himself rather than keep trying to lure in other noobs like you

no offence but that's the truth

Tell us more. Thats not the truth that's your opinion.
The difference between the two is that you have to give some facts that can support your opinion to be accepted as truth.

Okay, now I know this guy is just trolling. Whatever his past is its irrelevant because he's trolling now.

One of the interesting byproducts of bitcoin is our ability to create something of value much closer to the limits of what "essentially worthless" actually means.

"Essentially worthless" is much more suited to describe PenguinCoin or RabbitCoin or XXLCoin. 1 Latoshi. That is the new definition of "essentially worthless."

NXT is far from this, and everybody knows it.

+ 10

Due diligence.....and don't trust any one who says that you can trust them, just send the money ASAP without escrow, please.
And stop referring to John as NXT's leader......just shows that you don't understand NXT at all.

GoCoin did support Nxt

https://twitter.com/GoCoin/status/478673418213392385

I suggest Bluemeanie1 stays the hell out of any NXT topics from now on

If true, bluemeanie1 is a thief.  He should return the money, but I won't be holding my breadth.

 

guy comes out of nowhere talking up NXT.  guy does one show.  guy says, I have a good reputation.  guy says, send me lots of BTC and I will give you really cheap NXT, so you will be rich.  guy says, he doesn't accept escrow.  guy, says all the coins are lost.  

guy is a thief and liar

He didn't come out of nowhere. I remember  John was involved in Nxt even back in January. bluemeanie1 is someone who came out of nowhere.

The general consensus up until now is that John's account was hacked. I say innocent until proven guilty.

i believe john is innocent. we need to find out who is the hacker. karma will come sooner or later.

tl;dr

Probably one forum account got hacked and the hacker used this account to grab some BTC (not hundreds).

Moving on.

Could any of the admins at nxtforum (Damelon, VanBreuk, Farl4bit, Wesleyh... even Anon136) confirm that bluemeanie1 was paid for do some code for NXT?

If this is the case, I suggest them to ask bluemeanie1  to return the money as soon as possible.

Thanks.

I won't be holding my breadth on any money return. The guy just showed up recently in Nxt forum/thread. Why was he even given money at all?

John is someone who has been around with Nxt for a long time. In fact it goes back to early December when Nxt was very new

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=345619.msg4025981#msg4025981

bluemeanie1  of course doesn't know that as he himself is someone totally new to Nxt and most likely he is the scammer. 

https://mobile.twitter.com/GoCoin/status/478673418213392385

Can we wait please until bm writes back?
C'mon guys don't start accusing ppl so fast

As a general comment, the above is old news. The IRS has been conducting "net worth audits" since the 1970s. I know because once, after spending my pennies at a used book store, I came across a warning about net-worth audits in a book published ~1979 or so.

Back then, it was pretty rudimentary: they totaled up your declared income for your tax-paying life or 20 years and then compared the total to a list of assets you own that they could find: house, cars, etc.

I'm sure that the procedures are much more sophisticated right now. Not to mention more straightforward: old standards like bearer bonds have been killed off, and virtually every asset has either breadcrumbs or records detailing sales and ownership. Funny how, at about the same time that the Supreme Court found a "right to privacy" in the Ninth Amendment, FedGov started determinately whittling away at our financial privacy...

Then Nxters really do have bigger foes to worry about. I really hope that Nxt's multigateway innovation doesn't get crushed by the laws like Tucker Automotive was back in 1949:


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Preston_Tucker#Turmoil_surrounding_Tucker_Corporation_.281946-1948.29

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I'm worried myself, as I'm involved with the Nxt clone NFD (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=653516.0). So worried, I bought, paid for and have a copy of a ~3,500 page book covering the Ontario, Canada securities laws and regulations. [Yes, I'm Ontarian.]

Because NFD is a Nxt clone, I'm 100% in the tank for Nxt innovations and the Nxt AE. Don't have much choice, do I? ;)

NXT = greatest scam to get a few people rich in history.  No mining no way to fairly distribute.  Everyone got the chance to get Litecoin.

I think NXT has the worst distribution of any coin in history - but it shows the power of bribery, back room dealing, and mega scam fraud quite well.

The NXT conference leader whose is the public boss of NXT just stole $250,000 worth of BTC.  Its on the record for anyone to see.

NXT is a den of thieves.

You really are a miner fanboy, who has a problem with facts.
I'm not arguing with your stupid statments about Nxt, you had your reply to this countless times.

About the scam (the real one, not the one in your imagination): John is not a public (or any) boss, he is someone who represented the community at PayExpo. This was posted here at least 5 times now, try to understand it. It was not 250k, it was 74 BTC total, 49 from one people who was specificly targeted. There is no evidence at this point that it was John, more likely that his account was hacked. It's being investigated.

But go on with your nonsense, facts just get in your way.

There are a lot of false claims in what you write.

NXT is the most innovative coin available and actually does something new and useful.  NXT is 1st to market with a fast, usable decentralized asset exchange.  And NXT developers cannot control fraudsters who might choose to operate there.  No problem though, the decentralized community will weed them out and reputable assets will become known as they establish good reputations and return solid dividends.

Everyone on these forums has a chance to take part in NXT.  There was the NXT IPO for a month and following this a period where many were buying NXT at stupidly low prices.  Those people understood what NXT is, similar to how the original Bitcoin adopters understood what it is.

Even today NXT is only about 9 cents each. LOL.  The cost of a Bitcoin TX fee!   Now those that did not have the balls cry scam.  I suppose you'd rather cry scam and drive newbies toward some copy and paste coins you control.  We can now see who the real scammers are.

With regard to your claim about an inability to mine NXT, you are incorrect.  NXT can be both mined with a multipool and forged.

http://nxtpool.com
http://nxtroll.org
http://www.nxtio.org

What can one except from 100% premined coins. :(

There is no mining in Nxt. It is Proof of Stake, everyone have 60 days to express an interest, ask questions and join. Only 103 did and only 73 came forward to claim their stake.

Are you people slow? Someone pulled a scam with a forum post. How is this about Nxt?

It's kind bad press for NXT. Scams related to a certain coins usually make people stay away from it (yes this goes for Bitcoin too, but it is worse for alts). It's not a problem in the coin though.

The problem is misrepresentation: this scandel doesn't involve a single NXT, nor was the Nxt Platform used  ::) From what we know, it was a well targetted old fashioned hack.



Who'd of thought it, someone lying on BitcoinTrashTalk  :D

Sure, it's bad press. But mostly because of threads like this, that don't present the facts, but ppl scream second hand information or outright lies.
I'm ok with any real critisism, but if it's done with an agenda or because of stupidity, that bugs me.
Wish people would be reasonable...

I am enjoying the amount of attention that anyone mentioning Nxt attracts  :D

And Nxt's multigateway decentralised crypto to crypto trading was moved to the mainnet yesterday. Perfect timing, not that it will need much promoting ;D Keep up the high profile everyone, people need to know Nxt Multisig is coming

1.  You just got involved in nxt and somehow or another you managed to convince the community to hand over 2 million nxt to help code nxt at 11274042109288826540.

2.   After accepting the nxt, you now choose to trash nxt.... You claim to be a coder, you know how to read the nxt code, you chose to join the community, no one forced you to adopt the nxt technology, you accepted nxt for development and now trash nxt?  You are a real joker and should not be trusted.  Either that or you have multiple personality disorder in which case you need to spend some of the nxt you hustled from the nxt community and get medical treatment.  If you need medical help, i'm sure the nxt can help get you medical attention.

3.  Otherwise, please state your true agenda here?

4.  Who are you working for and why are you trying to infiltrate the nxt community to spread fud?  especially after countless statements from multiple reliable sources stating that John is cooperating with the investigation?  John is being fully cooperative so what more do you want from the guy?  I can't remember the last time we had a scammer in crypto that was willing to cooperate with an investigation.

5.  Why are you trying to divide everyone in the nxt community?

6.  If you truly believe nxt are essentially worthless, you are always welcome to return the donated NXT back to its original donors and leave the project.

7.  If you continue to work on the NXT projects, then let's try to keep things in a professional level otherwise no one will want to work with you.

Tai Zen

bm - besides the points Tai Zen has brought up, I'm personally stunned at the importance you give to a silly feature like forum karma. There's several members in the Nxt forums that have gathered a lot of negative karma points and don't even give it a second thought. And regardless, if you insist in being hostile and confrontational (some times out of the blue) what do you expect?

I followed your initiatives in Nxt since day 1 and do my best to stay level headed with everything, but it's difficult not to suspect you have an agenda we ignore. Because I don't want to think that someone with your capabilities can rear up this face for a matter of ego.

 

adversarial?  more like concerned.

-bm

As we are. What's the story with you? Are you in or out, nobody knows.

these problems need to be fixed.  if they are fixed, I'm in.   Fact is, NXT needs some housecleaning.

-bm

'tis nothing a little money won't fix.

and time. Of course.

pay back the 1 Million NXT you stole from the NXT community.

https://nxtforum.org/nxtventures/nxtautodac-all-of-bluemeanie%27s-automated-profit-making-blockchain-companies/60/

What's wrong with you man??!  ???

Problem with the link...

unfortunately the sock puppet army is out in full effect right now.

just to give you an example, there was never a community payment of 1 million nxt.  I already claimed that I would be willing to refund(at my own cost) the payment from the Technical Development Committee.  

The fact is that I simply cannot be around these criminals.  Clearly a theft took place, and many deceptions aimed at robbing people of their money and I simply wont be a part of it.  I don't care if I am dirt poor as a consequence.  It's wrong.  It's unethical.

earlier in this thread, Evil Dave made an excuse for the theft of 1/4 million dollars.  I just couldn't stomach that at all.  This was some clueless kid's life savings no doubt.

-bm

This scammer scammed bitcoins, not nxt.

You do have an excuse for everything don't you?

Fact is you got a community bounty and OTHER donations and raised funds for a total of 1 M.

You now decided to not deliver, now return it or be brandmarked as the scammer you clearly hat so much.

sorry if your sock puppet spam isn't working.  Making up stories doesn't help you much.

-bm

Post the transaction ID when you do it.  I doubt you are "refunding" anything as you are the one who seem to be the scammer who just showed up recently. I read your post where you claimed John just showed up recently. Funny how would a newbie scammer like you to Nxt would know something like that?    He didn't just show up recently. He has been around with Nxt long before you, since almost the beginning.

How much did the NXT community (the whole community, particular donors and tech committee) give to you BM??

JUST ANSWER THAT.

Thanks!  :)

Don't forget to MINE NXT at

http://hashrate.org

 ;D!!

Please show some respect here, you don't know anything about John and the good people who lost quite a bit of BTC.  >:(
It's a sad story already.

+1, a week ago Bluemaenie1 was coding for Nxt and gainig trust and resources from us. And now he does this??!!! This really makes me upset! >:(

I am just stating facts.

The "communtiy" (not the communtiy fund) donated 1 M NXT into your account: https://nxtblocks.info/#section/accountId/NXT-BKPE-L5KH-2C5D-BKDXS

You then decide to NOT deliver. Now I am the one making up stories?

Intresting. Maybe the other guy where right when he said that you likely have multiple personality disorder.

There was no theft of 1/4 million dollars. A scammer accessed John's forum account, impersonated him and managed to gather around 70 BTC (49 from one single person) before actions were taken. The information is in the BTC blockchain and in the forums.

Anyone who cares to find the details can do so easily.

show me where the 'community' payed me 1 million NXT.

I have never sold a single share of the NXTautoDAC.  Im not even the issuer.  The issuer decided to put my loginid on the asset description without my permission and I raised this with him soon afterwards.

-bm

funny how these accidental things seem to follow John around.

and what was the response?  let's have a secret hearing that shall not be published where one of the questioners was a member of Cointropolis?

I simply cannot be even near this sort of thing.  It stinks horribly.

-bm

33700 Tech fund https://nxtblocks.info/#section/txid/10278516869046547041
1000000 NXTVenture https://nxtblocks.info/#section/txid/9677367184378728685
33700 Communit Fund https://nxtblocks.info/#section/txid/16689648276761346571
5000 jl777 https://nxtblocks.info/#section/txid/213921033998505729
Rest Raised with Asset and most likely you have control of that funds too still (or sold them)

On Nxtforum.org Bluemania is claiming he's quiting because he don't want be in the neighbourhood of the BTC scam. It's bad for it's reputation he says. https://nxtforum.org/nxtventures/nxtautodac-all-of-bluemeanie's-automated-profit-making-blockchain-companies/?all

Doesn't look like he is willing to leave this topic because of relating him with scam.

And he needs to pay back what he got from us!

no idea what all that stuff is.  A payment form NXTVenture to me is a 'community payment'?  how do you figure that works?

there was a community tech dev payment that I have already claimed I am willing to refund(even though I dont think I'm liable).  That was really the only credible body that was involved in this and I only intend to cooperate with them.

you're obviously some kind of NXT spam bot and youre trying to make me look like some kind of criminal because Im being critical of NXT.  Makes NXT look even worse.

-bm

when the Cointropolis Heist is fully investigated, maybe then we can talk about whether I am running some fraud on the community.

I already offered to skype anyone who feels cheated.  Unsurprisingly I got no responses.

I am responding to the posts as quick as I can.

-bm

Yeah, must be. Everything against you MUST be some kind of NXT-conspiracy.

I am feeling cincerly sorry for you and I hope you can use the money you hassled from the NXT guys to pay for a good psychatric treatment.

Nxt Spam bot, and sock puppets everywhere? You are really going off the deep end.

Like you don't know me? I'm one of the global moderators of Nxtforum.org. We don't spam, we just don't want to get scammed.

its interesting that there was a very obvious criminal act here, this person seems to be walking scot free, while the person who was pointing it out is an instant criminal, who is 'running off with cash', even though that person 1) offered to chat on skype 2) is responding to messages.

says a great deal about what is REALLY going on at NXT.

-bm

Not liable? You were paid money for some project that you agreed to do (in fact you yourself proposed)  that you now say wont to do after the payment is received. Looks like a typical scam.

Do you have any proof that it was him? Right now you and John are both not guilty until proven. But the evidence is pointing harder in your direction. If I'd to bet, I'd say John is less likely a scammer than you are just now.

This is the transaction where James sent you 1,000,000 NXT for the development of AutoDAC - https://nxtblocks.info/#section/txid/9677367184378728685

the recipient is the RS address for the account you have in your public signature in the Nxt Forums, 11274042109288826540.

Now of course you will point out "that didn't come from the tech development committee account"

What I find troubling is that you relate "these criminals" to either James or the community. And I cannot see any post where you reassure us, and I mean investors (I am a small holder who spent a good amount of my holdings in NXT AutoDAC assets) that these funds will be used for the development of AutoDAC.

All you offer is skype talks, but I'm not seeing any of my concerns addressed. And I'm not even talking about the Nxt community concerns now, I am simply sticking to my own in this post.

You talk about robbery, theft, about things being wrong and unethical, while you have been parroting the ABSOLUTELY FALSE figure of a quarter million dollars, and putting the word "criminals" close to people who are working very hard for Nxt. If I am to be honest, all I can see is evasives and fingers pointing to other places. You talk about kid's life savings but us investors don't know what's going to happen with the MILLION of NXT you received for development, besides community grants.

I'm afraid that you don't really intend to develop AutoDAC and all this is an elaborate maneuver so you can walk away with +1,000,000 NXT in your pocket.

Can you prove that my fear is unfounded?

This sentence shows your true character as it is certainly not "obvious" if John account was hacked. Your scam is pretty obvious to me, though.

pay back the 1 Million NXT you stole from the NXT community.

https://nxtforum.org/nxtventures/nxtautodac-all-of-bluemeanie%27s-automated-profit-making-blockchain-companies/60/

This is the transaction where James sent you 1,000,000 NXT for the development of AutoDAC - https://nxtblocks.info/#section/txid/9677367184378728685

the recipient is the RS address for the account you have in your public signature in the Nxt Forums, 11274042109288826540.

(I'm reposting this every once-in-a-while)

it didn't come from a committee account.  There were funds spent by committee and I have no intention of leaving that unsettled.

So basically any payment that happens is a 'community payment'? Perhaps it is if all of you are sock puppets who are actually behind all this so called 'community'.

-bm

yes, it's accidental!  wow if anyone can believe that they are seriously gullible.  and if you can believe that suddenly I'm a criminal THE MOMENT I say something critical about NXT you are equally gullible.

-bm

You haven't answered my question. I'm an investor who put money in your project.

Are you going to keep calling "sock puppet" anyone who asks anything you don't feel like answering?

Are we small investors now "sock puppets"?

Are you serious, bm? Did you really call me a "sock puppet" with a straight face?

I am stepping in now, because this is getting ridiculous.

Yes, there was a theft.
No, there is no proof who did it.
John MAY have done it, he MAY not have done it.
As far as I know, we live in a society where people who are not proven *conclusively* guilty, are considered innocent.

That may be extremely unsatisfactory, but that's what it is. I would appreciate it if we stuck to the facts on that one, even if we don't like the conclusions.
If you have conclusive proof that John is guilty, I would like to see it.

On the payments, I made one of them from our community funds (33,700 Nxt) to this account: https://nxtblocks.info/#section/accountId/NXT-BKPE-L5KH-2C5D-BKDXS

Make of that what you will.

Edit: you are in my Skype list. Feel free to call me, or I will call you tonight :)

I see so you think it's perfectly fine to scam individual users whose money you stole by claiming you are a "developer"  who is working on some Nxt project, but it's not okay to steal money from community fund. Now it all makes perfect sense.

Thanks for confirming you are a scammer

right so he MAY have done it, or MAY have not.  But in the meantime, lets trump up charges about absolutely nothing to someone who is pointing out what a fraud this is!

-bm

Im trying to determine who actually might have been involved in this, so far 1 person has come forward(who appears to be a credible and real person) who bought 2400 NXT worth(at the time about 12 dollars) of an asset that I didn't issue, never sold any of, and wasn't even in agreement with it's description.

-bm

How is it trumped up charges? You yourself admitted in this thread you  were paid money for project that you now don't intend to finish?

Nobody is accusing you of calling John out....

The people are pissed at you because you got paid to do a valuable service to the community/protocol and now decided not to do it and NOT return the freakin million NXT you got paid for it by NXT ventures.

I never said I was giving up on the project.

-bm

Oh? So Nxt is worthless, everyone in it is a sock puppet, but you are doing the project?
I'm sure you are going to do a great job, we should trust you without question.

I am not sure who's right or wrong, since I didn't follow those events, but I believe the treasurers should be paying bounties by installments, not the lump sum all at once. 25% in advance, then more payments as the dev shows progress. For all future projects.

Its the NXT nature to scam, their other leader said scamming Americans is okay because it is hard work.

The new excuse is this was a hack, but if you believe that it means NXT is not secure.

thats the question I've been asking myself for a week or so.

-bm

And how are we supposed to read some of your statements in this thread, like the worthlessness of NXT?

I think it's quite simple to understand. Disregard for a moment the whole recent scam story. I come online and see that the developer of one project I invested in has said, among others, that "NXT is essentially worthless", and accuses the Nxt community of being a guild of thieves. Of course, the market value of the project totally sinks. What would you do? Most likely the same a lot of us did, which is simply wait for a statement or an explanation. The questions are very simple.

- Why do you think that NXT is "essentially worthless"?

- Does your opinion imply that AutoDAC is not going to be developed, at least with yourself in the lead?

- If so, what are you going to do with the +1M NXT you received for its development?

Can you please answer these questions to the people who invested and was following the project?

why are we disregarding this?

I also want to note that the person who basically just set this whole project on fire was also diligently defending John in the forums.

-bm

Does this mean you're not going to answer my questions?

You should.  You should also return all the NXT you were paid.

Just gain some credibility and answer vanbreuk's questions.

Guys, please let this topic die. Bluemania has an answer to everything.  ;)

Bump.

Does anyone have the address of the 'collected' bitcoins?  ;D

there were a number of confusing components to this whole thing, intentionally created that was(not by me, I was enthusiastic about the idea).  I have offered to work anything out with anyone who 1) can identify themselves as an actual person 2) can credibly claim they were cheated.

important points:

1) I was not the issuer of this asset.  I was not the fundraiser.

2) I have never sold a single share of NXTautoDAC

3) I did not agree with the asset description and made it clear to the asset issuer

I did begin to suspect that the price of NXTautoDAC was being churned/faked.  I have no way of knowing.  The only right thing to do is to offer to work with anyone who is a real person who might have been involved in this.  So far one person came forward with a claim to 2400 nxt.  Fact is I have no real liabilities here either on an ethical or legal basis.  James is primarily responsible for this.  Most of these claims being made against me are false and the reason why they are emerging is because I'm being critical of NXT.

Why is James not being criticized?  He clearly had a lot to do with this.  The answer is obvious.

-bm

of course Im not even allowed to defend myself, and meanwhile we make excuses for what was obviously theft.

this "NXT community" is a mockery of the word 'community'.

-bm

What has James done? Just set it out, don't go off on a tangent.

I'm not claiming I was cheated. Right now I'm not criticizing anything. I'm not demanding any refunds. I'm only asking three questions that are relevant for any person who invested.

Again.

- Why do you think that NXT is "essentially worthless"?

- Does your opinion imply that AutoDAC is not going to be developed, at least with yourself in the lead?

- If so, what are you going to do with the +1M NXT you received for its development?

Can you please answer these questions to the people who invested and was following the project?

This might start to get ridiculous, but for as long as I'm logged in I'll keep repeating them until you deign to reply. It might be a personal quirk of mine, but I don't like being ignored.

Thank you.

I didn't know that BM actually got same bounty from two different Nxt Committee. Pauncer from Tech Committee also sent him same amount of Nxt  - https://nxtforum.org/technical-development-applications/ann-hire-of-bluemeanie1-for-'virtual-corporations'-features-development/

Once again it was not obvious if his account was NOT hacked. Why does this guy keep repeating the same lie over and over again calling it "obvious"?

BM is obviously retarded.

Too bad for people who gave him money for a project.

Well we are pretty much united when it comes to you. That is a pretty good community.
You beating the drum about the scam that happened on the forum. I bet you can't even get the people who were scamed, to agree with you. What does that tell you?

Come, on, try it. Get one of the victims to side with you.

making up more stories.

-bm

sock puppets unite!

-bm

Bm,

Answer questions please. I just ask you this.

You are truly delusional.

How about my other suggestion. You scream about the scam. Get one of the victims on your side. I bet you can't.

bm, I don't understand what's so complicated about the questions I'm asking. They are sincere questions. There's no trap involved. I don't have an agenda. I just want them addressed.

Again.

- Why do you think that NXT is "essentially worthless"?

- Does your opinion imply that AutoDAC is not going to be developed, at least with yourself in the lead?

- If so, what are you going to do with the +1M NXT you received for its development?

You could simply answer "I don't know" to each of them, if that's what happens here. I've been in internet forums for twenty years and never had to repeat a question so many times.

continually claiming that Im ignoring the public doesnt make it true.  the answers are all there.

-bm

First: why am I not addressing the John and "sockpuppet" issue anymore?
A1: because I already given my view on how "innocent until proven guilty" works and because "prove to me to the standards I set, or you are a sockpuppet" does not make logical sense.
A2: Because I want to address this issue:


I am going to use this account here: https://nxtblocks.info/#section/accountId/NXT-BKPE-L5KH-2C5D-BKDXS

It's all open and for all to see:

All these payments came into your account, bluemeanie. Every single one.
Now, I find it passingly strange that if you wondered where these payments were coming from, that you stíll decided to cash out all of them not two weeks ago to bter.
The Assets were put on sale and 419333 Nxt was sent to NXT-WEC8-EV23-6U2M-2EHLP and then on to https://nxtblocks.info/#section/accountId/NXT-AY5L-JF5R-DULG-6VQ8B, from where it was sent to https://nxtblocks.info/#section/accountId/NXT-LSC3-VB9T-2W3V-BH7FB which is the bter account.

1'049'995 NXT was sent to bter, and yet you claim that you had no idea where it came from...

As to the Assets:

The NxtAutoDAC assets were sent on 15-05 and 01-06:
http://www.nxtreporting.com/?a=6996594153988857002
http://www.nxtreporting.com/?a=17775780885241000806

Bar a few, they were moved to the "intermediate" account on 02-06: http://www.nxtreporting.com/?a=1871213445535284844
They are still there.

The NxtVenture Assets were sold off.

So, the question that bugs me here is that you are so adamant in attacking people and apparently baffled by people questioning your taking of funds and then bailing is such a surprising manner, killing people's investments in the process, I might add.

You yourself have made a killing two weeks ago. Some of that MAY have been legitimate wages, they MAY be not.
I dó think it's suggestive.

My last question would be: if you didn't know where those funds came from, did you think a fairy donated them?
I find that hard to believe. In our talks you have proven to be a highly intelligent person, so that just doesn't wash with me.

Edit: also, I find the message attached to this transaction very, véry sad in light of what is happening now: https://nxtblocks.info/#section/txid/17375996629400525041

No but not answering their questions does.

then why did precisely NO ONE come forward when I offered to talk on skype?

it's already been proven that the forums are loaded with sock puppets.  See: the NEM scandal, one in a number of crazy screwed up things that seems to surround the NXT project, and no one seems to care about.  They do seem interested in roasting someone who just can't stomach watching these people just rob the public blind with these stupid tricks.

-bm

There's also the possibility that bluemeanie1 himself is behind the scam and hacked the Cointropolis account to scam the community, spread more FUD and hurt reputations, and then finally use it as an excuse to either leave the NXT community or be thrown out. He obviously has the motive to do so, when you look as his post history. There seems to be some personal vendetta going on. And if he really has some mental problems, like some people here argue, we maybe can't hold him accountable either, he should seek professional help.

I'm not saying this is the case, but it's certainly possible. Each should draw his own conclusions. Personally I don't think bluemeanie1 can be trusted, ever.

But hell, I'm probably just a sockpuppet :D

The only proven fact so far is that you scammed 1 million Nxt by claiming to be a "developer" and cashed out the money on bter as Damelon posted the link to your Nxt account with evidence from blockchain. Funny how all these scammers shout "foul"  and point fingers at others.

You stated that you have talked with several people on skype. Which it is then?

Edit. Also, why should anyone. The questions asked, (still no answers btw) are concerns the public, so why can be discussed publicly?

You wrote with me on skype and with about 3 others I know personally. Also mikesbmw offered to write with you, but you ignored him.

Bluemeanie1/Joshua please come to your senses and return your money. It will only get worse..

I made no killing whatsoever.

money was transfered to me.  It was worth roughly 15k.  As you may know NXT doesnt exactly buy much of anything tangible, thus Bter.  

as far as I knew- the TD had made a payment to me for support of the project(it was at the time $1000 worth of NXT).  That was the sum total of 'community involvement'.  I am willing to refund this money.  

The NXTautoDAC stuff was between me and James.  I recognized no other names in that deal.  Secondly I want to restate

1. I did not issue the asset

2. I have never sold a single share of it

3. I dont agree with the descriptor and I made that clear to James

Darkhorse did contact me and I responded to his questions.  Anyone who purchased NXTautoDAC(and it seems the number of general investors is extremely small), bought them from James, not me.  Again, I have never exchanged a single share for NXT.  I feel as though the plan was to drag me into some game where I am held liable but don't necessarily profit.  So James was the one who ended up with the revenues from the sale of that asset *not me* (that should be totally clear).  I did suspect some fishy aspects very early on, I communicated this to several people, and decided that if I were to voice these concerns, the price would collapse and the investors would lose.  Was that a good idea?

what I see going on here is a lot of screwups and trying to kill the messenger.  Did anyone notice that John never mentioned Vcorps in his various 'representing' of NXT?  Does that raise any eyebrows?  Clearly since this persons arrival this entire NXT community has been turned on it's head.

-bm

you need to stop making up these stories.

-bm

https://i.imgur.com/FCvheY5.jpg

Are you kidding me?

Damelon has posted a pretty conclusive message about some of the questions raised. Nothing I can add, although bm will keep ignoring things to his own convenience.

I'm disappointed, a little sad and signing out of this.

But regardless of the occasional toxic presence, there's a lot of great people in the Nxt community. Many exciting things coming. I love the project and I'll keep contributing within my capabilities to make it suceed, that's not going to change.

I've got nothing to hide here.  I've done nothing wrong.

Has anyone noticed that 200 BTC just went missing and everyone is talking about me?

-bm

FTFY

GIVE ME AN ANSWER!

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=653693.msg7367668#msg7367668

what do you think this proves?

-bm

ROFL:


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=212841.msg2282547#msg2282547

https://i.imgur.com/01HRdkO.jpg
http://www.meetup.com/Arizona-Bitcoin-Meetup/members/89531942/


doing business with this obvious psychopath... oh man ur own fault noobs

Stop deflecting. It was around 70 BTC, the victims are identified, and they don't need you to be their champion.

ya let's trivialize the problem and then start attacking me more.

-bm

THAT you wrote with ME?! Joshua Zeidner, you are irrational..

Joshua Zeidner u little nifty boy good job playing the troll here now. Can I hire u for some Java Terrorism? I love guys like u

are u enjoying the 79 BTC u stole man? good job bud ;D

Well, he obviously didn't expect his accusations to suddenly turn around and bite him in the ass.
Priceless! ;D

you stole more than 70 BTC. At current exchange rate (you sold higher), you stole 1 million Nxt that is at least 115 BTC

ok if you want to take this route, I will gladly explain any concerns anyone has about anything to do with me personally.

I already offered to have a skype chat and anyone can participate(and possible even record it).  I have nothing to hide here whatsoever.  All this is about one thing, the theft of 200 BTC which quite obviously I had nothing to do with, actually I warned against this person.  Are any of these forum logins making these claims identifiable?  Not even close.

meanwhile the missing 200 BTC seems to be a non-issue here.

-bm

more lies from anonymous posters.  no money was stolen by me.

-bm

i am calling my local FBI now informing them about Joshua Zeidner, stick with me my nifty boy

hints are always a nice thing to have.

email:
jjzeidner@gmail.com

skype:
joshzeidner

ill keep addresses and phone for myself now, if anyone needs it just send a pm

Proof was posted from blockchain that you cashed 1 million Nxt on Bter. Where did that money come from? It was  advanced payment for a project that you posted on Nxt forum

You scammed a lot of people with a lot more money than 70 BTC

Where is the money?

what people were scammed?

-bm

Great investigation Damelon. Too bad this happened with community-NXT.

All investors in NXTventure got scammed by BM. NXTventure is a widely held asset and represents the NXT community

NXTventure payment to bm's acct for 1 million NXT 9677367184378728685
https://nxtblocks.info/#section/txid/17375996629400525041
{"asset":"16212446818542881180","comment":"Here is 1% of NXTVenture\r\nThank you for trusting me to do your offering!\r\n\r\nJames","quantityQNT":"10000"}

Lets not confuse the issue guys.

bluemeanie1  is scammer who stole well over 100 BTC (much higher) from Nxt community.

Do we know anything about this scammer real identity?

Maybe someone can set up a bounty to track this scammer down

I though he was Dutch...

No, seem to be in the US

http://buildership.ning.com/profile/JoshuaZeidner

Joshua Zeidner
Male
Phoenix, AZ
United States

i have private addresses, phone numbers, mails and skype. were rather easy to find;

if u need confirmed addresses and further details, just contact privacy@dynadot.com (joshuazeidner.com), they have all the details available to share.

infos that can be publicly posted:

Name: Joshua Zeidner
Location: Phoenix, AZ, United States
Email: jjzeidner@gmail.com
Skype: joshzeidner
Google Plus: https://plus.google.com/100818431569428589869/posts
Censored address: **** ******** Polk St Phoenix, AZ 85007
Google Maps/StreetView (https://www.google.com/maps/place/1538+W+Polk+St/@33.453204,-112.092896,3a,90y,353.82h,72.15t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1stfPCo6nfh7U42coup7cvJg!2e0!4m2!3m1!1s0x872b1232fd029a2f:0x2ec15f39104a9de8!6m1!1e1)

mirror: http://pastebin.com/REK406cm



 Joshua Zeidner will not have a slightest chance other than boarding a plane as fast as he can.


~CfA~

1 million NXT was worth about 130 BTC. This is the amount the scammer used to lure people into his trap. This is why he keeps insisting that 200 BTC was stolen not 79. I think it’s time for TXTCoin to call the police, he may get his BTC back.

Good work.

Thanks

Since jl77 lost most of they money (1 million nxt) now that he knows the identity, there can civil lawsuit if he wants the money back

this was NXTventure money,so really any of the NXTventure or NXTautoDAC asset holders would be able to go after it

I will gladly offer any rights I have for recouping funds to anybody that can get it. Basically if you can get the money from him, then its yours to keep.

You are talking about a different scam (https://nxtforum.org/news-and-announcements/incredible-opportunity!/).

very interesting coincidence...

no the theory is that bm did both. The 400btc hacker spent around 120 btc to make the scam look real. bm sent 1 million NXT to bter when it was around .00012

he also kept saying 200 BTC was scammed when it was known to be only around 70 btc

coincidence?

I can't believe how 2 weeks old member of community could get 1M NXT for development  ???

I want to jump in here and say thát is also an unfounded assumption.
Let's not make the same mistake here.
If there is proof, great. If not, let's not make this worse than it is.

Correct.

for me it is about 10000 euros. it is I do not care who the guilty, I now have a name I should only lose a cent I know to whom I address myself personally and i don´t need police.

I do not even give a damn to see that it explains the otherwise slaps it, but no cheers.

You positive this is the same guy?  There's another Joshua Zeidner in Stony Brook, NY.

And more:
http://www.intelius.com/people/Joshua-Zeidner/

theres only one Java Developer named Joshua Zeidner, this is the one 100% [he confirmed living in Phoenix earlier]…

BTW there are several people working on bringing this scam to court, no worries

~CfA~

Would this have a chance at holding up in court?

What can I say ?
BM/Joshua seemed sane at the time, and a competent Java dev. He was working on a potential goldmine of a project.....
1 megaNXT still seems like too much to me, tbh, but it wasn't my decision.

But then the silly bastard has a sudden attack of lunacy, decides that the sky is falling, and then runs off with a big pile of cash that he recieved in payment for work he hasn't done, leaving a project and its investors in trouble.

Stylish, BM, very smooth and professional.

I'm not sure if he really can be linked to the John attack, seems like coincidence, but if he is linked, then we move up into legal action territory.
Who needs TV when you have NXT......
 

Just quoting numbers here:

Approx price of Nxt on 02-06 $ 0.05.
After that day, it only went up.

So 1 million on thát day was around $ 50,000, not $ 15,000.

That is quite a gap of $ 35,000.

Unless there is still Nxt on Bter, that is of course possible.

a few more links to the Bitcoin Thief / Scammer Josh Zeidner; Joshua Zeidner from Phoenix, Arizona, USA:

Name: Joshua Zeidner
Face: https://i.imgur.com/01HRdkO.jpg (https://i.imgur.com/01HRdkO.jpg), https://i.imgur.com/q4TMHGL.jpg (https://i.imgur.com/q4TMHGL.jpg)
Location: Phoenix, AZ, United States
Email: jjzeidner@gmail.com
Skype: joshzeidner / blue.meanie4
Google Plus: https://plus.google.com/100818431569428589869/posts
Censored address: **** ******** Polk St Phoenix, AZ 85007
Google Maps/StreetView (https://www.google.com/maps/place/1538+W+Polk+St/@33.453204,-112.092896,3a,90y,353.82h,72.15t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1stfPCo6nfh7U42coup7cvJg!2e0!4m2!3m1!1s0x872b1232fd029a2f:0x2ec15f39104a9de8!6m1!1e1)

mirrors: http://pastebin.com/REK406cm (http://pastebin.com/REK406cm), http://pastebin.com/bXLwe9cG (http://pastebin.com/bXLwe9cG)

http://www.linkedin.com/in/joshzeidner

https://twitter.com/BlueMeanie4
http://www.reddit.com/user/bluemeanie1

http://www.meetup.com/Arizona-Bitcoin-Meetup/members/89531942/
http://www.spokeo.com/search?q=Joshua+Zeidner&sns9=t104&global=true#:29718297151
http://phoenix.blockshopper.com/property/11126127/1538_w_polk_street
http://www.peoplefinders.com/property-search/name/joshua+zeidner
http://search.gmane.org/?query=&author=jjzeidner%40gmail.com&group=&sort=date&DEFAULTOP=and&xFILTERS=Ajoshua-Azeidner---A

~CfA~

Ya gotta love posting a mouse-over captioned Google Map link right under a "censored" street address.

I don't know if he was involved the other scam, but he clearly  was using this incident to run away from project he himself initiated, along with the money he was paid.

LOL Come-from-Above! You made a killing here!  8)

so bm's case is a coincidence to john's hacked account case.

i wonder, can anyone link what ways could bm have compromised john's account?

are those two ever in contact?

Yep.  This.

its my call of duty to counterattack scammers of such kind.

Are you sure this is the same guy as Bluemeanie, Joshua Zeidner? If you're wrong, and this guy & his family come to harm then I think this is very bad. I think bluemeanie is a scum bag, but come-from-above isn't the most sane person on this forum (NEM zealot on a manic high posting 24/7 lately, many posts off the planet).

I'm concerned about this. If there's a 1% chance this isn't the guy, then it's still too high to risk publishing his details and inciting vigilante action.

What if someone starts making death threats to this location, and an innocent guy and his family get victimised. I'm a parent, and maybe this guy has kids. This doesn't feel good to me. Have you ever been on the receiving end of a threatening call .... what about your kids?

If this was bluemeanie it still would make me uncomfortable, but if it's not then this act (publishing real world location) could severely back fire.

Before anyone hi-5's Come-from-above check his posting record. Do you really want to encourage this, maybe an innocent guy and his family getting hurt. Even a guilty guy.

Some very respected people seem to be condoning this. Strange

kennyP,  bluemeanie1 confirmed its him. there is only one Joshua Zeidner in Phoenix, Arizona who happens to be a Java Developer and involved in Bitcoin. Not two, three or more, just one.

Ur worries are legitimate, understood and recognized, albeit not necessary as u can confirm all the details on ur own by researching for 10 minutes.

~CfA~

I just checked that site - http://www.joshuazeidner.com/ - ctrl-f 'bitcoin' 'java' 'crypto' - not one mention of any of those on his blog.

Looks like this 'Joshua Zeidner' is heavily into aquaponics.

Can you link to where bluemeanie confirms it's him? If it is then maybe threatening to release his location would be a better first step. What if bluemeanie ends up in hospital. Is that acceptable?

I want BM 'encouraged' to return the 1 million NXT, but even scum bags can have innocent kids in their house.

u are not digging deep enough my friend, it is exactly Josh's site

http://home.joshuazeidner.com/home/index-html/excuses

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/rippleusers/ILkRKbS-v6E/xUCL3-X-B_gJ
 (https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/rippleusers/ILkRKbS-v6E/xUCL3-X-B_gJ)


not at all acceptable. this lies not in the liability of what i posted here.  note that i did not even post home address in full text nor did i endorse any attack/crime whatsoever by any means.  i am highly opposed to such activity.

~CfA~

 



well? anytime!

it looks normal to me, why judge like that?

~CfA~

Anybody who sent BTC to the scammer deserved what he got.

You simply do not blindly trust a nickname on the forum with real money without some sort of protection (escrow or the likes).

Furthermore, nobody should trust somebody involved in crypto that doesn't use PGP to sign important messages and/or announcements. That's something so basic that if someone is not signing their important messages and their public PGP key is not available then they shouldn't be trusted, either because they are so incompetent they don't even understand why cryptography is important, either because they are preparing the ground for a scam like the one discussed in the OP.

Someone dropped a fork?
https://nxtforum.org/general-discussion/is-the-chain-healthy/msg49836/#msg49836

 :D you're two days late trying to whip up FUD with this. This was a bug and has already been fixed in version 1.1.5.

Nxt Multigateway testing (crypto to crypto trading without an exchange, mtgox never again) is going well, the new GUI will make it easier for average joe to test (ask me how) but in the meantime Nxt is being added to hitbtc 'very soon' so it will have more fiat gateways into EUR and USD  ;D interesting times

f**k you,bitch,you are shameless liar.

How much did he actually raise? Was it a full 400 BTC?

Even after you see scams happening everyday, they still fall for the same trick.

Roughly 79 BTC, 49 of it targetted from one member. Btc began moving 2min after the post asking for btc at regular intervals and even after it was realised something was wrong, totalling around 200Btc. They were asking for 400btc. No one has claimed these transfers so are thought to be "trust paymets" from the scammer to make it look legitimate. The Nxt technology wasn't involved, nor did any NXT change hands. It was done through a forum post asking for BTC, the old fashioned way..

People are p!ssed with blumeanie as he was given 1million Nxt to develop a feature for Nxt, cashed it in for tens of thousands of dollars, didn't write a single line of code and then blows up calling Nxters the criminals. And believes he has done nothing wrong.

He conflates this with an idea that he didn't issue and wasn't for the asset he promotes and gives full backing to in a post using his PGP signature. This is the one he was paid to develop. As he didn't issue that asset, he believes it is ok to keep the 1 million Nxt he got paid to develop it. And no, I don't see the logic either ::)

agreed.. he showed up a week ago and has hammered this place to pad his post count.. i bet he's 15 lol
and your right a lot of his comments are insane whacko crap..

i'd trust this guy as much as 90% of guys on here (not at all)

ROFL Spoetnik, u r one of the most hated idiots on Bitcoinalk and u talk about trust?  good one!

FYI ur quoted post was answered already long ago,  we dont need ur random newb opinion here.  do u desperatly need attention little sucker? ;)

~CfA~



http://pastebin.com/REK406cm

And you wonder why the likes of us were referred to as "lab rats" in days of old by management... :(

no worries

Justabit is here again? For all those who do not know, he was involved in the UNOCS scam, along with the Phenixcoin devs and made off with huge profits while lying about vapourware.

You guys should know better than put him up as your community face.

all i know is i am thoroughly sick and tired of seeing this placed hammered with various scam coin crap
from the usual guys with the same over-complicated little scams such NXT and NEM etc etc etc
half of all topics 24/7 on page one are this dumb bullshit. (posted and bumped by the same 4 or 5 guys)

wasting your time advertising your crap guys, most of us will laugh at you and ignore your scam coin for eternity.
quit trying to find ways to scam for cash and sucker in noobs and confuse them to hell and back with overcomplicated little schemes.

For what it's worth, John handled an escrow of a significant amount of bitcoin for me. He was very honest and handled it perfectly. He was not someone I knew well prior to doing it either.

This doesn't make me all that solid about pumping any money into this project for right now.  Think I'll just cool my jets and sit back for awhile to see how this plays out.

If you don't understand it that doesn't make it overly complicated.

In what way is it a scam?

it's called deliberately making something complicated to trick the less smart as a means of scamming.

a classic method .

cloners make a new coin for any reason they can think of.. coin cloners sit around thinking of new excuses to make coins ..infinitely.
not for a constructive purpose but to simply make money. IE: 90% of all coins here .

get it ?

i think you do.. all along..
but as usual you scam supporters play little games and try fanboy and defend scammy crap


..for money.

Nxt isn't a clone and is doing things that haven't been done before. I wouldn't expect people to see the significance overnight.

The ideas in Nxt are simple. A decentralised exchange (AE), a way to build coins on top of Nxt secured by Nxt (Monetary System), digital ebay (Digital Goods Store), trustless transactions including escrow (Automated Transactions), peer to peer crypto to crypto trading (multigateway) and more. If Nxt's development was slower then it would be easier to explain each one as it came through but Nxt attracted a lot of devs so a lot is going on at the same time.

If you don't understand you just have to ask.

i am sooooooooooooooooooooooooo sure that is his first coin  ::)

games.. bullshit.. scammin' ....welcome to the interweb
and when it comes to Crypto land of FREE money sorry go away with your bs i'm not buyin'

i say clone when a shadowy scum bag sits around thinking of ways to get away with posting new coins with out getting flamed
and any kind of complicated scheme is always a sure fire method of them getting away with it around here time after time..
obviously i am not the gullible idiot here.. as usual a lot of comments are designed to defend dumb ass bs crap
for the crowd of idiots they know are watching.. they are putting on a show for the lemmings

So you are arguing Nxt isn't breaking new ground?

Is there another successful exchange as fast as Asset Exchange I don't know about? Or decentralised crypto to crypto trading that isn't Nxt Multigateway?

Why are you even replying to Spoetnik? He's full of sh*t. I mean it, it's not like a lit bit like every one of us, it's a huge pile of sh*t ;D Just put him on ignore and don't quote.

I think I know him as one of the main blackcoin guys during the huge pump and dump.

I don't have anyone on ignore  ;D

Yeah daedelus!!

Spoetnik usually writes this pile of shit from his WC as it is impossible to manage the stink from other rooms.

Nasty bussiness!!  :-X

I do not know if Justabit was involved in this scam or not, but has been shown to be extremely shady.

Just like the online wallet scam, you will find that scammers usually take some time building up trust before the big hit.

holy shit, it makes me vomit such crimes, cannot we hire a hitman to catch all that fraudsters??
to make a public punishment or torture that jerk and broadcast it on youtube as a warning for other bad people?
torture him 200 years = 1 year for every bitcoin stolen?

So 79 years then?  ;)

Can we have more details? Is this the same hacker that stole the NXT from the NXT dev fund?

guys did you even read the link in the opener?

The scam had nothing to do with Nxt as a coin is was just a medium.


"Hey i have a great opportunity you can buy a high amount of xxx coin for bitcoin"

There was no hacking, or software glitches, no keyloggers or anything.

Hey just offered a price below market and people sent him money first.

Strange, how this post was made ONLY 20 minutes after that tweet.

What?

I don't get what do you mean.

Who is this "rajc"?

Mistaken identity?

https://i.imgur.com/01HRdkO.jpg http://s3.postimg.org/mmr1gak8j/image.jpg

You decide!

Safely assume that what's being alleged doesn't hold water... but, if such is the case, shit... and I mean SHIT!, just hit the fan. Film at 11.

Honestly, don't know who this rajc dude is, but you gotta love his timing.

But, this guy https://plus.google.com/100158498481054183732/posts has this guy https://plus.google.com/+paulsnow/about as one of his two circle buds, FWIW.

And, FWIW, this guy https://plus.google.com/109609492141319726599/posts commented on this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJifR6EGTb8.

Karma lately?

Speaking of perfect timing, if Josh hadn't come along, James wouldn't have any friends.

http://www.altchain.org/?q=content/future-digital-currency-and-exchanges

https://plus.google.com/103967899640371702596/posts (scroll to the end)

And this James is relevant because.....

James Bryant's only Google+ follower and following is Josh Zeidner who resembles the dude in the second image above. Figured out that dudes name yet, of which may or may not be the same dude we know, albeit the dude above lives and Chicago, and the dude we know having the exact same namesake uses a Chicago phone number to register some Bitcoin domains having an 815 area code.

Joshua Mark Zeidner if u r reading this... hello u little nasty boy.  what would u like to have sent next my nifty boy? :)

~CfA~

Spell it out for us dummies  ;D

You think Josh Zeidner is James Bryant?

Seriously? Google the second image to find out the dude's name. Bearing in mind that it's probably just a coincidence.

Now I get it  ;D

Googled the pic and got Mike Marquardt > still clueless

Googled "Mike Marquardt crypto" > "Picture of Theymos aka Michael Marquardt"


You think bluemeanie might be Theymos, bitcointalk admin and bitcoin supporter.

This could be big!

 :o

I don't really see the resemblance myself  :D From just the two pics, Mike looks like he has a rounder, plumper head. But he could have lost weight  ;D There isn't enough to go on here.

Dig a little deeper, bearing in mind that I could be totally off base here, but if not...

Do both of the pics appear on his facebook profile?  :D

dudes u better leave theymos out of this fucking joshua mark zeidner scamshit
Joshua is an utter psychopath- theymos is a cool guy deploying bitcointalk for us all

~CfA~

I am James Bryant...Joshua contacted me to help build his website(altchain.org) and add content for SEO...that is the extent of my relationship with him. I wrote some fluff articles, created blogs, cross-linked, etc. purely for content and SEO...even though I have zero(and, I mean zero) experience in cryptocurrency. He never produced the browser based software for the site. I can assure you that I am not Joshua Zeidner nor have I ever actually met the person or corresponded in any way except through emails and texts.

its mean you lost a lot of money with it or they just want tricky you ?
i see they a lot from carribean people
intereset to discuss his profile