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2TH/S Miner Avalon 3rd generation shipping on 22th June

1.   Say goodbye to noise.
2TH/S Avalon 3rd Gen miner is coming. Maybe some buyer don’ like avalon3 because it is noise. Now Segree-Bitwinkor have update the technology on this dead point.  Avalon3 2TH/S is same quiet as A1 28nm recently. Not noise AVALON any more.

2.   Specification:
2TH/S is use 300pcs Avalon 3rd gen chip. + raspeberry .
built-in 6 blades, each blades include one cooling fan.
Power comsuption : 1watt/1GH/S. totally 2000W.
Hash rate: 1.9T to 2T Hash
Goods stadus: 100% newly making
First batch:  shipping time 21th June. Totally 100pcs quantity available.
Size: 51.5*45*20cm

Weight: 40KG
Price 2980USD/PC without shipping cost.

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website: http://www.bit-winkor.com
skype: amanda2007520

3.Payment:

A. By bank transfer to HSBC bank account.
b. By bitcoin
c. Paypal: only for sample (add 4.4% charge)

And I should buy it from you rather than directly from Avalon why?

AVALON company is making chip but not making Miner. We are the biggest avalon miner manufaturer in Shenzhen , China

Can someone confirm that you are not a scammer ? Why should we trust you ? Could you provide us with more information about you, your company, etc. Why we have to go every time trough this..... Noone will buy anything from you if you dont confirm your legitimacy

Any chance of obtaining a review unit ?

+1 I'd trust Xian01's review if it ever happens.

But even then Escrow is the way to go really.

You guys are in shenzhen. Im in HK, send me a test unit (domestic 1-2 days and cheap) and I will review it, video and forum review. But if not, Biffa's point stands!

What is the shipping costs of this thing?  Just curious and wanted to see the total costs to get one of these units.

Thanks in advance,

Chuck

I can vouch they are legit.
Segree-Bitwinkor is the first bitcoin miner manufacturer I have visit in China.
Amanda is a nice person to talk to.
You can look at the photo's I have taken almost 2 months back from the Avalon 2T casing in the thread "Visiting Asic manufacturers."

reserved

Wish I had enough BTC!

see these manufactures been had these machines but selling them to make profit cause they know it wont be good to them anymore, they are doing all the mining when you see all these machines being used for mining at there factories.  I beleive then can do better prices then these.  They just wanna eat there cake and keep it.

They had the casing 1.5 months ago, but didn't succeed to keep the prototype cool and less noisy untill they figuring out to add more chips and downclocked it.
Now they can start with mass production.

Any plans to visit this factory and check out this new unit? I would like to hear a review of how loud it is. I'm at 4 BTC right now, should be able to afford this within the next 1-2 weeks.

I spoke with Amanda last friday, she talk about the Avalon 2T, I am not an Avalon fan, but I will call her tomorrow and buy an Avalon 2T to do a review for you guys.

I thought the miner is not ready yet?

this weighs in at 67 kg?  I guess you changed the weight or I read it wrong 40kg not 67 kg    still very heavy to ship it.



  it will come smashed and killed dead if it really weighs in at that weight.     I am not looking to lug around a 67kg unit in my home.  or ship it back to the seller if it arrives doa.

Once again another no go.  comes close to roi at

3280 usd for shipping + gear

11% for diff increase

15 cents a k-watt

593 usd a coin

Yeah it is impossible. In the best case if the price of BTC rise with 10-15 % , there is no break even again.... They have to come closer to roi , otherwise no one will buy their miners. As far as I can see , no one even purchased one of those 2 TH miners here nor in Beastly topic. I would prefer to keep my BTC rather to lock them in something which wont be profitable at all ...

P.s Over 14 % increase in difficulty. Those people are running their own miners for months and than sell them. Not this time... Good luck

I possibly could buy this unit from you. After you check quality and chipcount. Its good deal untill Innosilicon drops A1 chip price, they can affort to drop it its better chip.
Underclocking A1 you could make similar 2T miner, Innosilicon is just riding with chip price now.

Still 1T miner 1-1,2kw psu is current sweet spot for efficiency in cooling power and price. Its no rocket sience you need more air to cool 2kw from same size of box.
Anything over 1kw psu need will raise production costs, cooling needs and so on.

Next cheap miner needs new chips, let it be Antminer S3@ 1kw or new Innosilicon chips or...

-edit~
Meh 67kg froget shipping it overseas.
Maybe Chinese can mine with these locally while Avalon is supplying cheaper chips than Innosilicon.

our company have done export business for 6 years more. You can check our company register information on Hongkong business website.
And for miner. because it is new products. we making miner is about 10 month.

You also can see our company in beijing bitcoin summit offical website: http://www.globalbtcsummit.com. our segree are there

Dear Chuck, May we know your address. so we can check the shipping cost for you

Dear, Thanks for your commend^^

Dear, yes, it is 40KG. no 67KG.

OK, I've ordered one. It's amazingly heavy (40kg, and is costing $240 to ship to Australia), but we'll see what happens.

Update:

2014-06-26
They said it would ship on the 23rd of June, but didn't actually ship until the 25th.
DHL has a package addressed to me, so hopefully it's not a couple of bricks.

2014-06-27
It arrived, but, it was badly damaged in transit
http://imgur.com/a/N210M

2014-06-30
This is not a good purchase. 

• It's not 2TH. It's about 1.7TH. That's more than a 10% variance, which is irritating already.
• it's not going to survive the trip until they figure out how to stop the A3 modules from bending the tiny little retaining bar (They should have designed the case better, so they could have put some foam holding the avalons in place while it was in transit, that could then be easily removed when it arrives).
• Avalons won't mine against any pool with even slightly large coinbases (P2Pool, Eligius, occasionally ghash.io) - You get this error "Avalon2: Miner Manager pool coinbase length have to less then 6144" which is a protocol level issue and isn't currently on the board to fix

Also, they didn't send me the associated Pi controller, so I had to spend half a day digging around to build a Linux machine that would talk to it. to actually mine. I had a look at the website, and, they don't actually say they include the Pi.

So, TL;DR: Don't waste your coins.

When you say its not noisy, can you give us an actual dB meter reading on a unit in a single room? If you don't have one handy there are plenty of free phone apps that give a pretty good reading on it. Also when you say we can use paypal to purchase a "sample" is that a full working unit that we can keep at full price? Or is that for a smaller unit? A unit that must be returned later? Or what else do you mean by that.

What's the shipping costs to NY, NY USA?

http://www.madelinelai.com/image/data/bitcointalk/burnin_test.jpg

Burnin test room with Avalon 2T miners

http://www.madelinelai.com/image/data/bitcointalk/pcb_without_chips.jpg

http://www.madelinelai.com/image/data/bitcointalk/pcb.jpg

http://www.madelinelai.com/image/data/bitcointalk/packaging.jpg

http://www.madelinelai.com/image/data/bitcointalk/rasberry.jpg

http://www.madelinelai.com/image/data/bitcointalk/innerside_2t.jpg

http://www.madelinelai.com/image/data/bitcointalk/innerside_2ta.jpg

http://www.madelinelai.com/image/data/bitcointalk/usb_connection.jpg

http://www.madelinelai.com/image/data/bitcointalk/mount_rasberry.jpg

I call Amanda  the day before yesterday and told her I would buy an Avalon 2T to proove the community they exist and are ready for mass production.
She told me the durable cardboard boxes she has ordered haven't arrived yet.
I said, doesn't matter, I will buy and pick up the miner anyway.
When I arrived there at the factory yesterday, there was a Russians couple with 2 translators placing an order of 15 scrypt miners.

The Avalon 2T I bought was originally reserved for another customer, they don't have enough stock untill 21 june, but I convinced Amanda
I need the miner to proove to the community they exist.

I will update this post tonight with more pictures and measurement of power useage with a kill-a-watt and noise level and hashrate

built-in6 blades, each blades include one cooling fan.

Powercomsuption : 1watt/1GH/S. totally 2000W.

Hashrate: 1.9T to 2T Hash

Goodsstadus: 100% newly making

Firstbatch:  shipping time 21th June. Totally100pcs quantity available.

Size:51.5*45*20cm

Weight:40KG

HI, shipping cost to USA about 280$ by DHL.

Sorry for not having update this thread yet.
I have taken more pictures, I need to shrink them first and add text.
I will do it tomorrow, I am freaky busy with other stuff to.
At the moment I have put the Avalon 2T miner in an isolated room and let the heat build up and see how it reacts on heat.
The fans are spinning wild under this condition and hashrate drops to 1.6-1.7 T.
It's about 60 dB under this condition.
If you buy an Avalon 2T, make sure you are not in a warm country or have the AC on, otherwise it won't hash at full speed at your poolside.

Sounds like we are better off just waiting for the S3.

How does the Dragon 1T run in comparison under these conditions?

So DHL are promising me that it'll arrive here today.  For those that don't' know, Australia runs on 240v, so drawing 2200w isn't anything to stress about.

I'll throw some better pictures up as soon as it arrives.  I've got to say, apart from the delay in shipping, I've been pleasantly surprised with these guys.  They do a lot of other non-bitcoin hardware, too, according to http://www.winkor.com/

The only thing I find SLIGHTLY suspicious is that they use the same (terrible!) shopping cart software as http://lketc.com

Compare:

http://lketc.com/enlogin.aspx
http://www.bit-winkor.com/u_login.aspx

Obviously the same software. And it's so bad, it looks home-made, too.  I wonder how closely they are working?

I'll update my previous post with photos.

How did the weight change from 67kg to 40kg?

I don't know where that 67kg number came from. Someone mentioned it on page 1, but I'm assuming that was a typo that they fixed.  When I called DHL yesterday, they said the box was 46kg IIRC. It was in the high 40s.

Hopefully I can do some slightly-better-than-potato quality photos of it, and the box - which is apparently what caused the shipping delay.

The dragons manage much better - although they are hot bastards too.

It would actually be worse, but the avalon (in house) designed modules are simply excellent in terms of airflow and mechanical design - and also have a nasty little delta fan that shrieks like Katyuska rockets as it approaches its max of 9kRPM :)

The 3rd party avalon stuff is garbage.

Well, it's here, and it was really badly damaged in shipping.  I'll throw some photos up later.

TL;DR: Don't buy.  Significant design flaws means it's almost impossible for it NOT to break in transit.

sorry , but I have to say I told you so.    You can post an Fu to me  I would understand  why you would.



  Shipping packages of that weight and size just end up broken.  46kg  or the typo of 67gh  are both too heavy.

  I have been doing a small but steady EBAY business for 10 years.  I stopped shipping any packages over 45 pounds.

 I hope you can get it repaired.

 They would be so much better off   shipping the psu's in 1 box.   the blades with the the chips in a second box and the case in a third box.

Oooh I just realised why you were saying they were loud - I turned the fan on my module down to nothing and provided my own cooling. Yeah those things are loud on their own.

did you do a report on one yet?

 do they get 2th at 2000watts??

I'll annotate the photos later, but here is the album of photos

http://imgur.com/a/N210M

would be good to see some reviews

yeah  this used to happen to me when I would sell fullsized pc's  …

Perfect boxing on the outside just like yours.

 Then when some one would drop the box 5 to 8 feet the shock would tear the gpus loose , tear the heat sink off the cpu  maybe bend the psu

out of its brackets.


 I found I needed to use a few rolls of pink bubble wrap inside the case.  Typically an extra 10 dollars a pc.  Just for the bubble wrap to

  pack the gpu's the  cpu and the psu so that  they could not tear loose.

 I also had to pull the motherboards cable loose so no one would start the machines filled with the bubble wrap.

 (you would think a guy buying a 2k pc would know better)

 needless to say  I stopped selling the bigger pieces of gear.

Mine is a gen 2, same form factor but different chips. SB weren't interested for this gen., guess we know why.

And no, it's not 2th. Have been getting about 1.75th.

http://imgur.com/a/N210M#75F4iTe

QG

I've updated my original post - tl;dr: Don't buy.  Over-rated, under-specced, under performing, and badly designed.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=653928.msg7354728#msg7354728

Sorry 8-(

--Rob

 

thanks for testing one out for us.  it was a nice thing to do.

Since the review is out the reality is its a 1.7th unit and way overpriced which will never ROI. So miners stay away from such products that will never roi and mining is done for profibility not for losing money to hardware manufacturers.  :(

waiting for S3..  ;D

S3 is already up for sale, at about $1/gh and 0.77w/gh.

2TH from the Antminer S3 (4 units, being BTC0.75 each) would only pull about 1560w, and cost $1935 (as of BTC price being $645 when writing) without the PSU's, so you must add in the cost of PSU, which maybe about another $200... so total costing about $2135 for (what seems to be) much better build quality, and most likely much better functioning product.

so good, but I don't have enought money  :-\

Now we have 2TH/S A1,
Speed full 2TH/S
Power is 2000W.
4 blades with 64pcs A1 chip
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Dear Rob,

Sorry for this make you so dispointed.  The insurance still didn't give any reply yet.
For the PI. our worker is really forget when package.
Now we have A1 2TH/S . weight i 25KG, much better. and it full 2TH/S power 2000W. we will you some discount if you order . For the last transport problem happend.