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A recurring trend in the Bitcoin scene is a lot of shady murders/suicides end up happening when there is Bitcoin to be had. It was the case in MT GOX it was the case in Silk Road so who's to say Satoshi was immune from this? He could very well have been murdered in order for someone to steal his coins or even take over. For example after satoshis "disappearance" many people in this very forum and the bitcoin community gained power so a lot of people could have had motive.

What are your thoughts on this?

We don't know about him personally unless you are. His bitcoins is not moving. All we can do is speculate.

If he did die, its much more likely that it was from natural causes. Plus you're looking for motives without a body, hmmm.

Doubtful. Since most of his coins have not been used and we haven't heard from him in years, nobody would have gained much from the murder. Of course, that is assuming a private person or group of people did it.

Why even mention this? we don't even know who he/she/they are.. Unless we do, Its best to just leave it alone.

It really is a shame he even used to post on this forum, people would trust his advice since he created the coin.  I do wonder what' sup, why wouldn't he stick his head out somewhere?

I don't know why people always predict the worst they just want fun and adventure in their life and a break from their boring life....why would you even speculate on this without any evidence at all. What's the likelyhood of him being murdered especially when no one knew who and what he did.

That's as made up as FOX News!  :D :D :D

Except none of his coins have been moved.

except he messaged the world during the dorian scandal. so we know that 1. the creator is not dorian and 2 the creator is still alive.

end of.. now can someone report this speculative FUD spreading off topic joke and get it placed where it belongs. it seems that cryptopaths is getting bored and now just talking jibberish..

I have added the red and green signals to your assumptions.

+1 long live Satoshi!

Did he really? I thought that was fud and just dismissed it can I see this anywhere?

This guy gets it. You can't assume that just because 1, that 2 is true OR vice versa.

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Reply by Satoshi Nakamoto on March 7, 2014 at 1:17

my thought on this is.... rumour, that stupid rumors

Why do you guys keep feeding the troll?

Look into the OP's post history and see for yourself,

We don't know who Satoshi is, so we can't know if he was murdered. What a stupid thread.

OP ignored, as he is obviously just trying to get more clicks for his signature ad. I would suggest the removal of these ads, because it encourages turds like him to post stupid shit like this.

+1, i hope the community is smart enough to ignore all the troll threads.

Was hoping to see all of the evidence that's supposed to be here....

... still looking.

What are you talking about? I don't have a signature ad and I've never had one.

What is the "new evidence" that is coming in? 

The OP only has a text signature and there is no link to click.

I doubt that Satoshi was murdered, at if he was it would likely not be because of his involvement with bitcoin. When he stopped his involvement in bitcoin it was still very small. Not only that but I have really not heard of any stories of people being killed over their bitcoin.

Except that as far as I can tell, OP doesn't have any signature ad.  There's nothing clickable there.

However, you're right that this thread is dumb.  What's the "new evidence coming in"?

+1?????? What a stupid fucking thread!!

Yep, it's got to be FUD. Unlike the hard facts in the OP  ::)

I disagree: this does not even qualify as a rumor.

It is wild speculation. The OP assumes two things:

• Somebody knew who Satoshi was.
• That person decided to kill Satoshi, because apparently Bitcoin brings out the worst in people.

The second point lacks a motive unless you want to implicate the current banking system/elite.

wow!!!amazing and unbelievable

Wasn't that debunked already? I believe it was alleged that someone else had access to satoshi's account on that website

Srsly? Come on man.

FUD alert

No, but his massive fortune hasn't been touched in a long, long time.

Whoever those coins belong to is not even managing wallets or what have you. That's extremely odd, and the owner's demise seems more than possible, IMO.

Yes but the thread title makes it sound like there is something new...there's nothing new and I haven't seen anything new about Satoshi for a long time. 

The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist. And like that, poof. He's gone.

sounds legit to me

Thank you for your thoughtful input. Most people replying here are just immediately saying fud and calling me names without really thinking of the matter at hand.

I would say the reason for that is mostly due to the title of your thread, it makes absolutely no sense and was clearly written just to troll, IMHO.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhaVMKkJ_60

+1, seriouscoin.

Although if he did die, it's probably from natural causes.

nope..

http://www.coindesk.com/linguistic-researchers-name-nick-szabo-author-bitcoin-whitepaper/

We don't know lots of things about satoshi.
Maybe it's a boy, maybe it's a girl or maybe it's a group of people... I don't know if your evidence are accurate  :D

1. Satoshi didn't sign the "I am not ..." message, therefore there is no proof, that this message was written by the same person who was posting everything before that as "Satoshi Nakamoto".

2. His coins never were moved after his disappearance.

Both points CAN have something to do with the secret private keys which COULD be gone with the life of Satoshi.

3. What is the new evidence for the (evil voice now) "MURDER OF SATOSHI NAKAMOTO" that was coming in anyway? Source?

Do you actually believe he was murdered and if so what is your evidence? There is a lot of counter evidence against you as it is. Unless someone hacked Satoshi's account on that forum where he responded a few months ago, then I dunno what else to say. It is possible someone hacked his account and said "I am not Dorian Nakamoto". But who knows???

If someone "stole his coins" then they did a bad job, those original coins are still there untouched and unmoved, so I really think you are grasping at straws here.

One should just ignore OP, look at his post history. These conspiracy theories are nonsense.
Maybe someone killed the real (did not want to use staff members) Lauda to gain control of a (soon to be) Hero account, he would gain so much power.  ::)
You're just asking for this to be in the news!

There is a chance that his account was hacked by someone, who posted that message. (Just a wild assumption).

Also, if it is the real Satoshi, can't the hackers break in to the website and track his IP and all that stuff?

Where is this evidence that you speak of?

This might be the worst thread of the week. You can't throw out words like "evidence" when you have none. Satoshi appears to want to be left alone and we should respect that.

You cannot be sure of that either, he might of made btc when he/she was in their 20s?!

I don't see anything that resembles evidence. So, there's nothing to talk about until that "comes in."

Most important point of this thread is that it is not about bitcoin,
so can we please move it somewhere out of the way?

Evidence = a body
Evidence = a witness
Evidence = a physical clue
Evidence = the result of a test or investigation
Evidence = I had a cool thought, and I turned it into a story!

 ::)

This sounds about right. I think a lot of people like to speculate about satoshi and the evidence they use is speculative at best. The OP more or less just got creative as to what his theory was/is.

Where are Satoshi's coins located?

hearing this , hearing that and all the chit chat surrounding the bitcoin community makes me wonder even more...is it a conspiracy? 8) 8)

Why does it even matter? Who cares?
So what if he is dead? So what if he is still alive?
Who cares if it was created by a govt organization?
Bitcoin has value and you spend it. end of story.
How would it affect any of you or even the market if he actually was dead? Or it wasn't who everyone thought it was.
Would you quit using it if you found out it was something other than what you thought?

... and when u think that i actualy believed that there are some facts behind this topic title...
anyways, when u think about it; u cant say that satoshi is dead when u dont even know for sure who he realy is, dont you.
It would be nice for bitcoin holders tho, if hes dead, and his coins lost forever, that would spice things up a bit :)

can you tell me his address? thanks and sincerely with all that money, i would never reveal my identity

There is no evidence for such ''big'' statement.
For what we know, he may take some free time from his business, in order to enjoy life, rest, travel around the world :)
He may be also very busy with some other, ''great'' project.
Everything is more possible then your suggestion :)

New Development: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=739403.0

This really becoming more and more crazy.
I can't believe.
Probably soon somebody will start new thread that Satoshi is CIA agent, killer or both:)

The troll is strong in this one.

https://i.imgur.com/f6SD4ia.gif

His "new development" is just the same thread again.  I don't know why he wants everyone to keep reading his nonsense.

No way, I don't belive this crap

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1zwgnt/i_am_not_dorian_nakamoto_or_satoshi_i_hacked_ning/ (http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1zwgnt/i_am_not_dorian_nakamoto_or_satoshi_i_hacked_ning/)

A lot of people are very interested in the whereabouts of satoshi. Some people have spent weeks and months looking at his transactions and where the coins subsequently went.

I personally think the chances of him being killed are less then the average citizen being killed as he is very smart and can avoid many dangerous types of situations that end up killing people.

I would personally love to be able to read actual evidence as to the whereabouts of satochi or the possibility that he was murdered/killed (although I don't think he was). As far as I can tell, more or less no one really has any actual evidence as to his status.

Soon after I made this thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=739403.0

 Mark Karpeles made this tweet: https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FzfZkD2q.jpg&t=543&c=fnr5eSCB56wKsQ


The Plot Thickens.



Cryptopaths, Chief Of Police of the CPD

~Crypto Knight~

Having trouble decrypting those tweets, here's what I have so far:
"bTorg", "silence", "mem 020114", "cryptopaths", "accident".
Anyone know the full thing?

He logged back in a while ago.  He is still alive  8)

If he was the only one with the private key and he 'died' would that potentionally increase the value of BTC?

put your ego away your not a police officer, your not the sun, and karpeles tweets are not related to you. you FUD is soo thinly tied together no one cares. your just posting like 2-3 different topics, purely for your own ego trip, and not doing anything useful for the community.

im starting to think that you are Dr sol adoni and one of his dozen sock puppets.

it mean that at least no one can dump that huge amount in the future, it could be a good thing lol

I think they're not the same but cryptopaths is doing his best to become bitcointalk's resident troll.

My guess is that Satoshi is the US government and that Bitcoin is the "one world currency." While I don't like the notions the NWO brings for the most part, a global currency sounds like a good idea to me as long as the law doesn't outright black ball every currency, save for Bitcoin.

How do we not his bitcoins never left?  No one has any wallet on him or anything?

What are you talking about?

Maybe they are referring to him posting something saying he was not dorian?

I guess the only real question that is important to me is at what stage of Bitcoins develpment did Satoshi disappear and how did people all of a sudden know to pick up the 'pieces" he left behind.  This topic is bound to have tons of fringe speculation because it is fascinating seeing where Bitcoin is today and could go in the future.   

I'm sure he was referring to Satoshi logging into his old account at some foundation (I forget the name), to say he was not Dorian Nakamoto. I'm sure you can google it easily enough if interested. Of course some will say the account was hacked, but Occam's Razor says Satoshi was alive and well at that point, and had enough good will to want to get the jerk media off Dorian's back.

Satoshis around, lurking, he's a lurker  ;)

And that evidence... is there going to be any?

OP says they want to murder satoshi to "steal his power"

Satoshi gave up his "power" when he voluntarily stepped away from all involvement with bitcoin and went silent. Even as a pseudonym he is no more than a historical figurehead. There's no power to steal.

It would be more likely Brock pierce is the one who gets found dead under "mysterious" circumstances. Just looking at his smug face makes me rage.

I highly doubt you could murder that many :famous: people and not get into trouble.

So the idiot started two threads with the same claims....I wasn't aware of the other one.
Something more efficient than the ignore button is needed for this pest.

What if that random japanese teacher guy was the true Nakamoto? I think he was the perfect character and how I imagine Nakamoto to be in person. Maybe the did this in purpose so when they forget about it they keep looking for him forever.

You may be talking about this:

http://p2pfoundation.ning.com/profile/SatoshiNakamoto

Is that 'official' (?)
I mean, the p2pfoundation is from Satoshi/Group of developers?

That's really interesting!

Sorry but that poor guy had no clue what bitcoin was , pronounced it wrong twice without blinking and probably still thinks that is the right way to spell bitcoin.

He is just a Satoshi Nakamoto , like there are a lot out in the world.

This thread you linked was quite an interesting read from a historical perspective, thanks for posting this.

Now let's stop bumping this idiot's thread.

One thing is for certain and that is if Satoshi is dead, he's rolling in his grave given the current crypto scene filled with shitcoins, Wall Street like IPOs and talk of rolling back blockchains just because someone got their coins stolen.

Probably he is still here in this precise moment, writing in the forum under a different account to help developers with the coin releases.
Maybe he just lost his password, maybe is dead, nobody knows that for sure.

OMG ~ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYXXhn9fMYs  :D

Where's the "new evidence" mentioned in your deceptive thread title?   You are so irritating.

-B-

I would doubt he would have lost his password as he does not seem like someone who would make this kind of mistake.

I wouldn't doubt that he somewhat monitors this forum for developments regarding bitcoin. And I would certainly say that he monitors bitcoin related news.

He is almost certainly not helping release any of the alt coins that are out there as most of them (really all of them) are just stupid.

I think the evidence doesn't support he is murdered.
There are many possibilities, and he is murdered is only one of them.

inb4hisprivatekeyisleaked

I hope he/she/them/it is still alive, there is still stuff to be fixed, like our voting, why vote people to vote for us? then to be bought out most the time, we should vote on the issues ourselves a true representation of the peoples majority, and our policing should all have cameras recording when on duty as there proof in court, for their safety and ours, and are justice system, have 1000 people selected to be the jury with anon tech for these cases, and our food supply`s distribution and finite resource calculations and population growth  etc etc, we still need you satoshi :(

p.s. good work, one step in the right direction for all humanity, respect.

What?

I'm sorry - are you drunk, high, and hallucinating? I've never heard of a Bitcoin murder before. This guy is drunk, if he's saying they're happening a lot.

yes i agree this is just a rumor when that bitcoin is under or the price is down. maybe end of the year will rise again  8)

What i want to know if he/she is one person or a group of developers...
Are we going to die without knowing it? :o

Satoshi is around in this forum :) I'm sure he will reveal himself in right time.

Maybe the best we can do is vote for cryptopaths here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=729053.0

and stop bumping this thread!

In the end you will find satoshi is just an alias for NSA or CIA 8) 8)

Satoshi isn't one person...so "they" might be around on the forums but I highly doubt they will reveal themselves

cryptopaths, you have two threads going with virtually the same title:
Where is the new evidence coming in?

The Bitcoin Foundation thread is the most recent development in the case.




Cryptopaths, Chief Of Police of the CPD

~Crypto Knight~

Nope, from reading this forum!

So where is the actual evidence you silly FUDster?

He could have been killed, he could have been sodomized and raped by a bunch of Amazonian tribeswomen, a bunch of Martians could have captured him and be anal probing him at this very moment.

Too much paranoia and not enough facts.

I think this place needs a dedicated conspiracy thread.

Hey guys I just thought up some more evidence!
Notice how you never see Obama and Satoshi in the same place? That's because it's the same guy!!!!!!!!! But wait, I saw Obama on the news today...?... This means.... OMG, reanimation!!!!!

Fabienne: Whose motorcycle is this?

Butch: It's a chopper, baby.

Fabienne: Whose chopper is this?

Butch: It's Zed's.

Fabienne: Who's Zed?

Butch: Zed's dead, baby. Zed's dead.

You guys need to calm down for a while, watching too many movies lately.