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Title: [ANN] Nightmare (ShadowCoinClone) | NM | FRESH algo | ShadowSend | ShadowChat
Post by: Coolstoryteller on August 16, 2014, 03:30:40 AM


UPDATE: "Looks like its a Carsen Klock Coin." Thanks Trademark for the detective work!
http://s28.postimg.org/vi8dyouod/nightmare.png


Looks like we have our first Shadowcoin clone: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=740936.0  It would be nice if people contributed to the source, instead of cloning it. Anyways, the project lead lied to me and said he didn't ripoff Shadowcoin. I did a little digging into their Github Repo https://github.com/nightmarecoin/Nightmare/ and found the complete opposite. They forgot to remove Shadowcoin and SDC from the repo. Now he's changing his story to "we meant to give them credit" just like he's changing the code I found https://github.com/nightmarecoin/Nightmare/commit/b404d53afb24b36a2feeda76dec187e547e8c764 "Locale Updates"

http://s9.postimg.org/4ve8vhn3j/Screen_Shot_2014_08_15_at_8_51_17_PM.png

This thread will serve as the unmoderated ShadowCoinClone "Nightmare" thread.

Just wanted to give potential miners and investors a heads up that this is a scamcoin. All they did was switch out the algo.
NightSend is really ShadowSend. Their EM system is really ShadowChat. No credit given. Pure Plagiarism.

Shadowcoin Website:
www.shadowcoin.co

Proof of Developer for Shadowcoin lead developer Rynomstr:
http://cryptoasian.com/sdc-shadowcoin/

Shadowcoin Forum:
www.shadowhangout.com

Shadow BTCtalk thread:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=700087.0

Note:

Ryno gave credit to the Darkwallet devs for the diagram in the SDC thread. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=700087.msg8219858#msg8219858

"We'd like to give a special thanks to Peter Todd, for his white paper on stealth addresses: http://sourceforge.net/p/bitcoin/mailman/message/31813471/"

"As well as DarkWallet for all the information on stealth addresses at: https://wiki.unsystem.net/en/index.php/DarkWallet/Stealth"

Here's my post in their thread before it was deleted twice:

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/sigh

A complete ripoff of Shadowcoin. People should really start contributing to the source projects instead of cloning them.. You even ripped off their diagram.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=700087.msg8219858#msg8219858 We won't be open sourcing the mobile wallets so good luck with your roadmap.

Anyone looking to invest in the source check out www.shadowcoin.co.

Strait up,cop/paste of shadowcoin...they only have stealth addresses because they forked shadowcoin....every fork of shadowcoin would have stealth addresses....haha....suckers!
Even stole the shadowcoin diagram on how stealth addresses work.

The diagram of Stealth Addresses Shadowcoin stole from the real developers of Stealth from DarkWallet.

Stealth Addresses is a modified version of what is available from DarkWallet and the diagram is from DarkWallet's wiki.
https://wiki.unsystem.net/en/index.php/DarkWallet/Stealth


We have given credit to them in our promo graphic. Credit is due where it is actually due.

We are a team of developers and we believe the foundations that are currently available with Nightmare provide all the top-notch features that people look for in coins.


Our main focus of development will be our Decentralized Open Source Market. More details on this will be coming.



ZZZzzzZZzzzz. You're definitely not giving credit where it is due. Don't try to mislead investors. You ripped off the EM system and Stealth Addresses from Shadowcoin. It's called plagiarism - look it up.

https://github.com/SDCDev/shadowcoin/commit/8d3d3be2156386fc0017dd0e4c9938ba9c1b3ac1

src/bitcoinrpc.cpp

https://github.com/nightmarecoin/Nightmare/blob/master/src/bitcoinrpc.cpp

SDC's EM:
https://github.com/SDCDev/shadowcoin/commit/081b82d970bdb0cc64975abfc281c7af53986771
https://github.com/SDCDev/shadowcoin/blob/081b82d970bdb0cc64975abfc281c7af53986771/src/qt/messagepage.cpp
https://github.com/nightmarecoin/Nightmare/blob/master/src/qt/messagepage.cpp

CNTL + C
CNTL + V

Lulz:
 <source>123.456 SDC</source>
https://github.com/SDCDev/shadowcoin/blob/master/src/qt/locale/bitcoin_uk.ts
https://github.com/nightmarecoin/Nightmare/blob/f42d7ea9a0a080b9e7d503ab44382ad74e7190b5/src/qt/locale/bitcoin_ur_PK.ts
Line: 1729

Replace "SDC" next time you searchnreplace.

Sloppy job. You forgot to remove Shadowcoin from:
https://github.com/nightmarecoin/Nightmare/blob/f42d7ea9a0a080b9e7d503ab44382ad74e7190b5/COPYING

http://s1.postimg.org/en2fljc4f/Screen_Shot_2014_08_15_at_6_58_12_PM.png



Title: Re: [ANN] Nightmare (ShadowCoinClone) | NM | FRESH algo | ShadowSend | ShadowChat
Post by: yellowduck2 on August 16, 2014, 03:31:59 AM
good a clone. I will buy nightmare.


Title: Re: [ANN] Nightmare (ShadowCoinClone) | NM | FRESH algo | ShadowSend | ShadowChat
Post by: Magiklair on August 16, 2014, 03:33:08 AM
Thanks for bringing this to the attention of the community. Buyer beware..


Title: Re: [ANN] Nightmare (ShadowCoinClone) | NM | FRESH algo | ShadowSend | ShadowChat
Post by: Coolstoryteller on August 16, 2014, 03:36:53 AM
Thanks for bringing this to the attention of the community. Buyer beware..

No problem. I'm tired of hearing about people getting scammed by these crooks. Just doing my part, I hope others would do the same. FUD is a big problem on bitcointalk so I wanted to show concrete evidence before I made this thread. I hope it sets an example for future whistle blowers.


Title: Re: [ANN] Nightmare (ShadowCoinClone) | NM | FRESH algo | ShadowSend | ShadowChat
Post by: BossBee on August 16, 2014, 03:44:37 AM
Shadow coins nightmare has arrived



https://s3.amazonaws.com/static.tumblr.com/c58fb726a80a603975ff0bfe0af4a645/g7hqofp/nJ5mvjqqy/tumblr_static_freddy_krueger_by_atomiccircus-d57fr12.jpg


Title: Re: [ANN] Nightmare (ShadowCoinClone) | NM | FRESH algo | ShadowSend | ShadowChat
Post by: trademark on August 16, 2014, 03:54:39 AM
I am 99.9% sure it's a Carsen Klock coin. I have yet to be wrong.  Looks at the specs.  He got the total count wrong again.  Look at the last active times on both of the profiles.  Coincidence? I think not!

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=367038

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=362435

http://s28.postimg.org/47n2qrrrd/nightmare.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/47n2qrrrd/)


Below is a link to my thread exposing he was the webcoin dev.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=701484.0


Title: Re: [ANN] Nightmare (ShadowCoinClone) | NM | FRESH algo | ShadowSend | ShadowChat
Post by: shojayxt on August 16, 2014, 04:03:22 AM
I am 99.9% sure it's a Carsen Klock coin. I have yet to be wrong.  Looks at the specs.  He got the total count wrong again.  Look at the last active times on both of the profiles.  Coincidence? I think not!

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=367038

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=362435

http://s28.postimg.org/47n2qrrrd/nightmare.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/47n2qrrrd/)


Below is a link to my thread exposing he was the webcoin dev.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=701484.0

That Meth addict is nothing but a scumbag scammer.


Title: Re: [ANN] Nightmare (ShadowCoinClone) | NM | FRESH algo | ShadowSend | ShadowChat
Post by: Coolstoryteller on August 16, 2014, 04:04:54 AM
I am 99.9% sure it's a Carsen Klock coin. I have yet to be wrong.  Looks at the specs.  He got the total count wrong again.  Look at the last active times on both of the profiles.  Coincidence? I think not!

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=367038

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=362435

http://s28.postimg.org/47n2qrrrd/nightmare.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/47n2qrrrd/)


Below is a link to my thread exposing he was the webcoin dev.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=701484.0

NICE CATCH!


Title: Re: [ANN] Nightmare (ShadowCoinClone) | NM | FRESH algo | ShadowSend | ShadowChat
Post by: Coolstoryteller on August 16, 2014, 04:05:47 AM
I am 99.9% sure it's a Carsen Klock coin. I have yet to be wrong.  Looks at the specs.  He got the total count wrong again.  Look at the last active times on both of the profiles.  Coincidence? I think not!

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=367038

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=362435

http://s28.postimg.org/47n2qrrrd/nightmare.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/47n2qrrrd/)


Below is a link to my thread exposing he was the webcoin dev.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=701484.0

That Meth addict is nothing but a scumbag scammer.

+1


Title: Re: [ANN] Nightmare (ShadowCoinClone) | NM | FRESH algo | ShadowSend | ShadowChat
Post by: trademark on August 16, 2014, 04:10:06 AM
I am 99.9% sure it's a Carsen Klock coin. I have yet to be wrong.  Looks at the specs.  He got the total count wrong again.  Look at the last active times on both of the profiles.  Coincidence? I think not!

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=367038

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=362435

http://s28.postimg.org/47n2qrrrd/nightmare.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/47n2qrrrd/)


Below is a link to my thread exposing he was the webcoin dev.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=701484.0

NICE CATCH!

Thanks. 6 for 6 on CK coins now. I should be a crypto private eye. lol


Title: Re: [ANN] Nightmare (ShadowCoinClone) | NM | FRESH algo | ShadowSend | ShadowChat
Post by: Coolstoryteller on August 16, 2014, 04:12:26 AM
I am 99.9% sure it's a Carsen Klock coin. I have yet to be wrong.  Looks at the specs.  He got the total count wrong again.  Look at the last active times on both of the profiles.  Coincidence? I think not!

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=367038

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=362435

http://s28.postimg.org/47n2qrrrd/nightmare.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/47n2qrrrd/)


Below is a link to my thread exposing he was the webcoin dev.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=701484.0

NICE CATCH!

Thanks. 6 for 6 on CK coins now. I should be a crypto private eye. lol

Awesome. I love exposing these scam artists. They kill the new blood that comes into crypto. It's sad but we have to do our part to keep progress moving in the right direction and show new investors that not everyone is out to rob them.


Title: Re: [ANN] Nightmare (ShadowCoinClone) | NM | FRESH algo | ShadowSend | ShadowChat
Post by: trademark on August 16, 2014, 04:16:02 AM
I am 99.9% sure it's a Carsen Klock coin. I have yet to be wrong.  Looks at the specs.  He got the total count wrong again.  Look at the last active times on both of the profiles.  Coincidence? I think not!

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=367038

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=362435

http://s28.postimg.org/47n2qrrrd/nightmare.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/47n2qrrrd/)


Below is a link to my thread exposing he was the webcoin dev.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=701484.0

NICE CATCH!


Thanks. 6 for 6 on CK coins now. I should be a crypto private eye. lol

Awesome. I love exposing these scam artists. They kill the new blood that comes into crypto. It's sad but we have to do our part to keep progress moving in the right direction and show new investors that not everyone is out to rob them.

Yeah. I agree! I knew he would move onto a new coin when Richie of Bittrex ignored his ass on adding CKcoin. HaHa!

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=726101.msg8340357#msg8340357 


Title: Re: [ANN] Nightmare (ShadowCoinClone) | NM | FRESH algo | ShadowSend | ShadowChat
Post by: Coolstoryteller on August 16, 2014, 04:19:52 AM
I am 99.9% sure it's a Carsen Klock coin. I have yet to be wrong.  Looks at the specs.  He got the total count wrong again.  Look at the last active times on both of the profiles.  Coincidence? I think not!

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=367038

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=362435

http://s28.postimg.org/47n2qrrrd/nightmare.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/47n2qrrrd/)


Below is a link to my thread exposing he was the webcoin dev.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=701484.0

NICE CATCH!


Thanks. 6 for 6 on CK coins now. I should be a crypto private eye. lol

Awesome. I love exposing these scam artists. They kill the new blood that comes into crypto. It's sad but we have to do our part to keep progress moving in the right direction and show new investors that not everyone is out to rob them.

Yeah. I agree! I knew he would move onto a new coin when Richie of Bittrex ignored his ass on adding CKcoin. HaHa!

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=726101.msg8340357#msg8340357 

Hahaha! The guy just needs to throw in the towel already and go back to stealing from his parents to support his meth habit.


Title: Re: [ANN] Nightmare (ShadowCoinClone) | NM | FRESH algo | ShadowSend | ShadowChat
Post by: trademark on August 16, 2014, 04:32:05 AM
I am 99.9% sure it's a Carsen Klock coin. I have yet to be wrong.  Looks at the specs.  He got the total count wrong again.  Look at the last active times on both of the profiles.  Coincidence? I think not!

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=367038

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=362435

http://s28.postimg.org/47n2qrrrd/nightmare.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/47n2qrrrd/)


Below is a link to my thread exposing he was the webcoin dev.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=701484.0

NICE CATCH!


Thanks. 6 for 6 on CK coins now. I should be a crypto private eye. lol

Awesome. I love exposing these scam artists. They kill the new blood that comes into crypto. It's sad but we have to do our part to keep progress moving in the right direction and show new investors that not everyone is out to rob them.

Yeah. I agree! I knew he would move onto a new coin when Richie of Bittrex ignored his ass on adding CKcoin. HaHa!

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=726101.msg8340357#msg8340357 

Hahaha! The guy just needs to throw in the towel already and go back to stealing from his parents to support his meth habit.

lol. He's been scamming more than ever after not landing the $6000/month job he interviewed for.  lol at him even thinking he is qualified for it. The logos for his coins are horrible. HaHa.

https://www.facebook.com/carsen.klock/posts/10152480234829283



Title: Re: [ANN] Nightmare (ShadowCoinClone) | NM | FRESH algo | ShadowSend | ShadowChat
Post by: Coolstoryteller on August 16, 2014, 04:37:53 AM
I am 99.9% sure it's a Carsen Klock coin. I have yet to be wrong.  Looks at the specs.  He got the total count wrong again.  Look at the last active times on both of the profiles.  Coincidence? I think not!

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=367038

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=362435

http://s28.postimg.org/47n2qrrrd/nightmare.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/47n2qrrrd/)


Below is a link to my thread exposing he was the webcoin dev.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=701484.0

NICE CATCH!


Thanks. 6 for 6 on CK coins now. I should be a crypto private eye. lol

Awesome. I love exposing these scam artists. They kill the new blood that comes into crypto. It's sad but we have to do our part to keep progress moving in the right direction and show new investors that not everyone is out to rob them.

Yeah. I agree! I knew he would move onto a new coin when Richie of Bittrex ignored his ass on adding CKcoin. HaHa!

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=726101.msg8340357#msg8340357 

Hahaha! The guy just needs to throw in the towel already and go back to stealing from his parents to support his meth habit.

lol. He's been scamming more than ever after not landing the $6000/month job he interviewed for.  lol at him even thinking he is qualified for it. The logos for his coins are horrible. HaHa.

https://www.facebook.com/carsen.klock/posts/10152480234829283



Lulz. We just gotta keep an eye out for his next scam. No doubt he will try again soon.


Title: Re: [ANN] Nightmare (ShadowCoinClone) | NM | FRESH algo | ShadowSend | ShadowChat
Post by: Toninho on August 16, 2014, 04:41:44 AM
http://i46.tinypic.com/i6fles.jpg


Title: Re: [ANN] Nightmare (ShadowCoinClone) | NM | FRESH algo | ShadowSend | ShadowChat
Post by: alnoor1231 on August 16, 2014, 05:12:35 AM
Wow, what a bunch of lazy bastards! Make your own coin u shits!


Title: Re: [ANN] Nightmare (ShadowCoinClone) | NM | FRESH algo | ShadowSend | ShadowChat
Post by: Randy Marsh on August 16, 2014, 05:27:05 AM
caught before the start - good work

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwaXl4ncRL8


Title: Re: [ANN] Nightmare (ShadowCoinClone) | NM | FRESH algo | ShadowSend | ShadowChat
Post by: Coolstoryteller on August 16, 2014, 06:03:15 AM
caught before the start - good work

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwaXl4ncRL8

+1


Title: Re: [ANN] Nightmare (ShadowCoinClone) | NM | FRESH algo | ShadowSend | ShadowChat
Post by: ItsNotMe on August 16, 2014, 06:16:30 AM

DEV is deleting posts that show nightmareCoin is a scam.
Strait up ripoff of shadowcoin...they only have stealth addresses because they forked shadowcoin....every fork of shadowcoin would have stealth addresses.
Dev even stole the diagram on how stealth addresses work.


Title: Re: [ANN] Nightmare (ShadowCoinClone) | NM | FRESH algo | ShadowSend | ShadowChat
Post by: Coolstoryteller on August 16, 2014, 06:51:22 AM

DEV is deleting posts that show nightmareCoin is a scam.
Strait up ripoff of shadowcoin...they only have stealth addresses because they forked shadowcoin....every fork of shadowcoin would have stealth addresses.
Dev even stole the diagram on how stealth addresses work.

Yeah he just deleted mine as well.

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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=700087.msg8219858#msg8219858

this coin is just stealing stuff from a legit coin...

I love that they don't give any credit in the OP to Shadow. Pathetic.

He's attempting to mask his scam by deleting all of our posts and changing his OP..
   
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Strait up ripoff of shadowcoin...they only have stealth addresses because they forked shadowcoin....every fork of shadowcoin would have stealth addresses.
Dev even stole the shadowcoin diagram on how stealth addresses work.

The diagram is from DarkWallet, the link was provided in an earlier post. All future posts about this will be removed. It is FUD. We have given credit to both the DarkWallet Developers and the Shadowcoin Developers, check the OP. We are not making any false claims. We will be focused on a decentralized market to spend your Nightmare's at! Also Nightmare's code does vary from SDC, we as developers have already made several changes and bug fixes.

is this correct ?
Nightmare.conf
Code:
rpcuser=user
rpcpassword=password
rpcallowip=127.0.0.1
rpcport=22789
server=1

Make sure it is "nightmare.conf", It is recommended to mine using the pools provided in the OP to get the best results.

GL with your scam. First you said you didn't take any code from SDC then I found your sloppy copy/paste and you fixed part of it. Then you changed your story to "you meant to give them credit" lulz. Now, you are re-branding their technology. There is no NightSend there is only ShadowSend the first implementation of the advanced dual-key stealth addresses into a PoS coin. So you can't re-brand it because its Shadow's accomplishment. Same with ShadowChat.


Title: Re: [ANN] Nightmare (ShadowCoinClone) | NM | FRESH algo | ShadowSend | ShadowChat
Post by: Reese212 on August 16, 2014, 12:25:01 PM
first: i'm Standing on my own side only.

but i like being honest, so to get some Facts right:
yes, there were Posts deleted (what a miracle that this happens in a self moderated thread), BUT he gave the answer why he deleted Posts: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=740936.msg8374486#msg8374486

@coolstoryteller:
i don't think that your post proves that NM is a scam. He admitted that it Comes from DarkWallet. Maybe NM is only a clone with no Innovation, but it's not a proven fact that it's a scam.
I'm not 100% sure if he said "i didn't take any code from sdc", and i'm not sure if this sentence "Special Thanks & Credits go out to - The DarkWallet Developers & The Shadowcoin Developers (For Stealth Addresses & Encrypted P2P Chat)" has been included in the OP since the Launch.


On the other Hand the screenshot from Login-times can be an indication that he is carlsen. maybe yes, maybe no.
just think about the mars-face popped up couple years ago....the indication was so strong...but still wrong. (not the best comparison, i know. just want to Point out that acting superfast may produce wrong indicators (just like MACD 1min Charts...))


Title: Re: [ANN] Nightmare (ShadowCoinClone) | NM | FRESH algo | ShadowSend | ShadowChat
Post by: @scambuster on August 16, 2014, 12:39:25 PM
We've got screwed by CK enough,Not once more!


Title: Re: [ANN] Nightmare (ShadowCoinClone) | NM | FRESH algo | ShadowSend | ShadowChat
Post by: cassius69 on August 16, 2014, 12:52:04 PM
i fucking love unmoderated threads  ;D


Title: Re: [ANN] Nightmare (ShadowCoinClone) | NM | FRESH algo | ShadowSend | ShadowChat
Post by: omgbossis21 on August 16, 2014, 01:03:56 PM
He did choose the best algorithm out, its the next big algo if somebody builds the right coin!


Title: Re: [ANN] Nightmare (ShadowCoinClone) | NM | FRESH algo | ShadowSend | ShadowChat
Post by: Coolstoryteller on August 16, 2014, 05:30:56 PM
first: i'm Standing on my own side only.

but i like being honest, so to get some Facts right:
yes, there were Posts deleted (what a miracle that this happens in a self moderated thread), BUT he gave the answer why he deleted Posts: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=740936.msg8374486#msg8374486

@coolstoryteller:
i don't think that your post proves that NM is a scam. He admitted that it Comes from DarkWallet. Maybe NM is only a clone with no Innovation, but it's not a proven fact that it's a scam.
I'm not 100% sure if he said "i didn't take any code from sdc", and i'm not sure if this sentence "Special Thanks & Credits go out to - The DarkWallet Developers & The Shadowcoin Developers (For Stealth Addresses & Encrypted P2P Chat)" has been included in the OP since the Launch.


On the other Hand the screenshot from Login-times can be an indication that he is carlsen. maybe yes, maybe no.
just think about the mars-face popped up couple years ago....the indication was so strong...but still wrong. (not the best comparison, i know. just want to Point out that acting superfast may produce wrong indicators (just like MACD 1min Charts...))

Hey Reese,

My intentions are not to spread FUD on the project, but instead to bring light to the problem of ALTcoin factories plagiarizing code and scamming new investors. The nightmare project lead lied and told me he didn't use any code from the SDC project. I investigated it myself and called him out on it. Then his story changed and so did the Github repo - so right there that is a solid red flag. NightSend is a rebrand of ShadowSend. Any real developer would not re-brand someones work without giving credit. He presents it in a way where investors think he is the original author of the code, which is shady and usually the sign of a scamcoin. The coin is a carbon copy of SDC, why wouldn't they just contribute to the SDC project if their intentions were so pure?

Shitcoin factories are sucking the life out of the altcoin scene. New investors come here and get scammed by these people, then those people leave the altcoin scene. We need a concerted effort by the community to support source projects, not clones. All anyone is doing is contributing to the next shitcoin pump and dump. Contribution is what makes Bitcoin such a strong crypto.

I did my homework here and backed up my claims with real facts. The majority of FUD on Bitcointalk =  baseless accusations with nothing but a financial agenda backing them up. I hope this sets an example to the rest of the community. Do you research first and contribute FACTS not FUD.


Title: Re: [ANN] Nightmare (ShadowCoinClone) | NM | FRESH algo | ShadowSend | ShadowChat
Post by: Equate on August 16, 2014, 05:36:13 PM
as a community
we need to make some guidelines for new coins and launches
if they dont meet these guidelines the coin doesnt get listed on an exchange
right now millions in capitol has been sucked out
not a new penny or dime of fiat is coming into this market if it carrys on like this
bitcoin will survive no matter the weather
but alts are dying a slow horrible death


I have heard this many times ...believe me... But scamcoins will keep on getting listed on exchanges unless people start doing some homework before investing in these coins and trying to get rich overnight.


Title: Re: [ANN] Nightmare (ShadowCoinClone) | NM | FRESH algo | ShadowSend | ShadowChat
Post by: shojayxt on August 16, 2014, 05:49:22 PM
as a community
we need to make some guidelines for new coins and launches
if they dont meet these guidelines the coin doesnt get listed on an exchange
right now millions in capitol has been sucked out
not a new penny or dime of fiat is coming into this market if it carrys on like this
bitcoin will survive no matter the weather
but alts are dying a slow horrible death


No way to stop these douche bags as long as there are enough idiots with a couple GPU's mining their shitcoin.  They get lucky enough to get in on a ninja launch, get a few blocks, and think the coins they have are going to be worth something.  They call you every name in the book when you point out that they're holding a worthless shitcoin.  Then they all scream about getting on an exchange and when the coin gets on one they all trip over each other to be the first to dump.  The price plummets immediately and those that weren't quick enough to get their coins on the exchange to dump start whining about the price and complaining about the people dumping.  When they're really just mad that they didn't get to dump their .002 btc of some shitcoin they've been mining for the last week.


Title: Re: [ANN] Nightmare (ShadowCoinClone) | NM | FRESH algo | ShadowSend | ShadowChat
Post by: Reese212 on August 16, 2014, 06:55:39 PM
first: i'm Standing on my own side only.

but i like being honest, so to get some Facts right:
yes, there were Posts deleted (what a miracle that this happens in a self moderated thread), BUT he gave the answer why he deleted Posts: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=740936.msg8374486#msg8374486

@coolstoryteller:
i don't think that your post proves that NM is a scam. He admitted that it Comes from DarkWallet. Maybe NM is only a clone with no Innovation, but it's not a proven fact that it's a scam.
I'm not 100% sure if he said "i didn't take any code from sdc", and i'm not sure if this sentence "Special Thanks & Credits go out to - The DarkWallet Developers & The Shadowcoin Developers (For Stealth Addresses & Encrypted P2P Chat)" has been included in the OP since the Launch.


On the other Hand the screenshot from Login-times can be an indication that he is carlsen. maybe yes, maybe no.
just think about the mars-face popped up couple years ago....the indication was so strong...but still wrong. (not the best comparison, i know. just want to Point out that acting superfast may produce wrong indicators (just like MACD 1min Charts...))

Hey Reese,

My intentions are not to spread FUD on the project, but instead to bring light to the problem of ALTcoin factories plagiarizing code and scamming new investors. The nightmare project lead lied and told me he didn't use any code from the SDC project. I investigated it myself and called him out on it. Then his story changed and so did the Github repo - so right there that is a solid red flag. NightSend is a rebrand of ShadowSend. Any real developer would not re-brand someones work without giving credit. He presents it in a way where investors think he is the original author of the code, which is shady and usually the sign of a scamcoin. The coin is a carbon copy of SDC, why wouldn't they just contribute to the SDC project if their intentions were so pure?

Shitcoin factories are sucking the life out of the altcoin scene. New investors come here and get scammed by these people, then those people leave the altcoin scene. We need a concerted effort by the community to support source projects, not clones. All anyone is doing is contributing to the next shitcoin pump and dump. Contribution is what makes Bitcoin such a strong crypto.

I did my homework here and backed up my claims with real facts. The majority of FUD on Bitcointalk =  baseless accusations with nothing but a financial agenda backing them up. I hope this sets an example to the rest of the community. Do you research first and contribute FACTS not FUD.

I see your Point.
NM dev says the "SDC" in the code has been left there to give credit....uhm well...i would give credit on another way, this way wasn't very good in my opinion. but i must Keep in mind that there are many people, especially in it industry, who are great in what they are doing but are nearly unable to speak to People nor have good sense for Marketing.

But: " The nightmare project lead lied and told me he didn't use any code from the SDC project." - how can I believe you that this happened? I'm interested in truth, nothing else. I don't say you lie or you lie not, but we Need to figure out a way to provide Facts and not only say "what i am saying are Facts".


Title: Re: [ANN] Nightmare (ShadowCoinClone) | NM | FRESH algo | ShadowSend | ShadowChat
Post by: Coolstoryteller on August 17, 2014, 07:03:33 PM
as a community
we need to make some guidelines for new coins and launches
if they dont meet these guidelines the coin doesnt get listed on an exchange
right now millions in capitol has been sucked out
not a new penny or dime of fiat is coming into this market if it carrys on like this
bitcoin will survive no matter the weather
but alts are dying a slow horrible death


No way to stop these douche bags as long as there are enough idiots with a couple GPU's mining their shitcoin.  They get lucky enough to get in on a ninja launch, get a few blocks, and think the coins they have are going to be worth something.  They call you every name in the book when you point out that they're holding a worthless shitcoin.  Then they all scream about getting on an exchange and when the coin gets on one they all trip over each other to be the first to dump.  The price plummets immediately and those that weren't quick enough to get their coins on the exchange to dump start whining about the price and complaining about the people dumping.  When they're really just mad that they didn't get to dump their .002 btc of some shitcoin they've been mining for the last week.

Eventually they'll either lose all their money or start investing in real developers instead of shitcoins.


It's nice to have a technical founder leading the Shadowcoin project. So glad it doesn't have to outsource devs and borrow code like 99% of the altcoins.
http://cryptoasian.com/sdc-shadowncoin/

I find it funny that people invest in altcoins without technical founders, since crypto is all about technology. No sane angel or VC will invest in a start-up that doesn't have a tech founder or one that stole code from another project.
http://thenextweb.com/entrepreneur/2011/12/21/can-you-really-be-a-non-technical-co-founder/

A true story of what happens when their crapcoin "developer" runs out of money:
http://www.inc.com/yec/my-worst-mistake-ever-ryan-buckley.html


Title: Re: [ANN] Nightmare (ShadowCoinClone) | NM | FRESH algo | ShadowSend | ShadowChat
Post by: Coolstoryteller on August 17, 2014, 07:06:55 PM
We've got screwed by CK enough,Not once more!

+1

Always look for an investment with a technical founder, otherwise you're just supporting the trash cartel coins looking to funnel money out of uninformed investors.

i fucking love unmoderated threads  ;D

They love you too!


Title: Re: [ANN] Nightmare (ShadowCoinClone) | NM | FRESH algo | ShadowSend | ShadowChat
Post by: @scambuster on August 19, 2014, 12:23:38 AM
The dev has deleted my accusasion.Maybe he is the guy scamed ppl with Freshcoin-savale.Check my proof here.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=744699.0


Title: Re: [ANN] Nightmare (ShadowCoinClone) | NM | FRESH algo | ShadowSend | ShadowChat
Post by: BlackMarketKarma on August 19, 2014, 06:57:22 AM
Exchanges, especially the bigger, more established of the bunch (i.e. 'ttrex, Polo, Cryptsy etc..) need to do their due diligence and vet code much like CoinsSource is vetting the actual developers based on a set of criteria. Enough is enough with this, people have got to be getting disenchanted by this after it occurs in copy and paste form time and again..


Title: Re: [ANN] Nightmare (ShadowCoinClone) | NM | FRESH algo | ShadowSend | ShadowChat
Post by: jpouza on August 19, 2014, 09:15:24 AM
Another self moderated thread, deleting all users posts.

Reported.


Title: Re: [ANN] Nightmare (ShadowCoinClone) | NM | FRESH algo | ShadowSend | ShadowChat
Post by: ItsNotMe on August 20, 2014, 12:09:36 AM
dustin mate
http://i57.tinypic.com/11jac8y.jpg
what makes you think you can say SDC paid someone to troll your coin when you have no proof
this is slander that is reserved for between friends not to be used in a place where your promoting your coin in return for investment
very unprofessional
i see you have still not completed your POD
this can take less then 24 hours
what are you stalling


Title: Re: [ANN] Nightmare (ShadowCoinClone) | NM | FRESH algo | ShadowSend | ShadowChat
Post by: abats on August 20, 2014, 09:58:00 AM
dustin mate
http://i57.tinypic.com/11jac8y.jpg
what makes you think you can say SDC paid someone to troll your coin when you have no proof
this is slander that is reserved for between friends not to be used in a place where your promoting your coin in return for investment
very unprofessional
i see you have still not completed your POD
this can take less then 24 hours
what are you stalling
sdc also clone btc code is a hoax! ! lol


Title: Re: [ANN] Nightmare (ShadowCoinClone) | NM | FRESH algo | ShadowSend | ShadowChat
Post by: Reese212 on August 21, 2014, 10:30:13 AM
dustin mate
http://i57.tinypic.com/11jac8y.jpg
what makes you think you can say SDC paid someone to troll your coin when you have no proof
this is slander that is reserved for between friends not to be used in a place where your promoting your coin in return for investment
very unprofessional
i see you have still not completed your POD
this can take less then 24 hours
what are you stalling

did you know that everyone on c-cex can Change his chatname 100 times per day? Just try it, I did.