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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=753446.msg8507502#msg8507502

somebody googles these two dev.

thanks! Bergmannx

+1

Beware, there is less than a day before Bittrex release the 350btc FUNDS. This must be STOPPED!

Criteria to met before funds are released:
- Working Wallet
- Block Chain
- Explorer

If you guys compare what these two dev have posted, you would find something interesting.

Now cluster dev has time to delete posts.
Where are you when ppl need you ?

@Bittrex-Rami

Of all the things I care to ask about, I really really want to know how you got the spacing in the alphabets in your post? I cannot see anything in the BBCode! LOL... What sorcery is this??

=..= There was something wrong with my input method. I have fixed it...

So you start a whole FUD topic, guess what both users (usecoin dev and cluster dev) are old (as in they've been for a while) your screenshots don't prove any relation between them. You're clearly part of that fudster pump and dump group that's plaguing BCT lately. Guess what, I'm out to get you and unless you actually post something tangible, something that makes sense, I'll call you out for what you are and no one will listen to your scammy ass.

Both accounts have no activity between December 2013 to around May 2014 (was he locked up?), both were posting for freebies nearly every day  on the same giveaway threads.

go fuck yourself

Aw what's up kid, you got mad because you can't fool anyone? Grow up, man up and do some research first, both coins are completely different. Cluster has a bittrex ICO, that means that the dev can't come up like the usecoin dev and dump all over the place.
Why don't you just take a look at the TOA for the clustercoin ICO before screaming scam like a bitch?

ｉｔ　ｉｓ　ｐｕｒｅ　ｍａｇｉｃ 8)

I don't care about what you said. No more reply to you.

Now that's interesting, no fudding and posting facts, good job, this might be something to look at.

i have already know and i warn people,but no know listen me.

https://i.imgur.com/CK05zwC.jpg

CrystalCoin dev also stopped posting in December 2013 and then started posting again in May 2014

Besides the possibility they did scam by themself.I assume the scammers bought "full membership" from the original owners.

yeah they look all the same, all are begging for free giveways to increase post count to most likely sell acc to others

A big "supporter" of Clustercoin likes to buy accounts here...


Ups :-X

Scams are just getting more and more crazy......

https://i.imgur.com/Km8o9Za.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/IHua1hK.jpg

@Bergmannx man, you are genius!!!!

Totally agree.

I have looked up the post history of usecoin's dev.Before usecoin,he never say a word about altcoin.Instead,he was hanging round BTC section.

If bittrex released the funds.

We all know what to DO!

All three have not done any verifications, i guess dev will use the verification on cluster now, thats why he dumped the others

This is the third time i've heard of BitTrex.com being involved in shady dealings; one of these stories can be read at highoncoins.com. I would not trust BitTrex if i were a coin dev and as a miner if i need to exchange coins at BitTrex I immediately withdrawl all my coins from BitTrex. They can't steal whats not there, I do believe if the SEC has jurisdiction over BitTrex they must be contacted to start an investigation. But who knows where BitTrex is based out of if its out of the states then ohh well not much can be done except to protect your coins from them in your wallet.

Man...Why you create a new account to talk about this...

To let people know BitTrex.com MAY be thiefs

I have already withdrawed my BTC after usecoin scam...

BITTREX: you're currently holding ~$175,000 worth of scammed BTC from your loyal userbase. DO THE RIGHT THING!!!

This makes me confused. I'm so worried now!  :(

Ohh Excuse me... To let everybody except you know that BitTrex.com MAY be thiefs  ;)

scam dev again and again ,when will  end ?

Difference here is that they hosted the ICO and it is still in their power to prevent this thief from getting away with it. Not to mention he abused their system twice the same day clstr/use

Like  a judge setting free a clearly guilty rapist based on  technicality screwups by the prosecutor

AMEN to that!!!


However BitTrex may not have sunk usecoin but they have done extreamly shady things, market manipulations/missing coins from account holders/and im sure they have sunk a coin or two for their own gain but thats all speculation. When hard proof comes up that BitTrex is acting unethical I have a feeling the tides will change.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=630621.msg7063158#msg7063158

up

he deletes all questions ..
his minions are immature offensive kids
maybe it's not scam but he will soon get his 350BTCs!

350btcs for what?
 people are awesome!

so its only 1 guy running all these scams go figure, this is why we cant have nice things

fullmember scam  >:(

may noobs dev have other account which are full member or higher , another year and those newbies aka will become hero lol


350 really? some of them must be fake btc sent from dev

we should get shameonyou and Essex343' IP or login history, who can get, it will help ICO investors to get a refund.

start a thread in meta and point to this thread for reference asking BTCTALK to provide relevant data to bittrex admins only. GO !

1.Why don't they first do POD and then ICO?
2.Why they buy full members accounts?
3.They moderate topic and no negativity allowed..
4.350btcs? IPO ICO --fast money, you buying promises..
5.Why they don't selling finished tested product? with promising new features?

game is to get you btcs..
for me all ico ipo are scam..

Bittrex needs to do the right thing here!!! Dont watch your users getting scammed. You can stop this!!!!

We need more peole like you... Thanks! :D

https://bittrex.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/202849754-Our-responsibility-to-you

It seems that bittrex decides to release the ico money.

People only ask for a delay release until dev proves himself legit.

Now it's obvious that there are something fishy about these three coins. can't you see???

So you gonna protect scam instead of your own users, right?

@Bittrex-Rami

I agree with both viewpoints here. BitTrex have it in their power to put a stop to this.

But traders do need to take more responsibility for their own actions.

Some guys think that POD would prove it's legit.

Are you guys so naive? Personal info can be bought just like BCT accounts. You can even bribe someone to pretend to be others.

Some people argue that if they don't get money, they can't continue the development. Man, it's really a joke...

I think it's about time this site itself started bearing some of the responsabilty too for allowing it to be become a scammer's playground

In IRC, they are blaming we did bad trades, but not their responsibility, their simple terms can make more and more ICO scammers.

Could you give me the IRC link?

http://webchat.freenode.net/

#bittrex

Tks you can help us, they wanna proofs, they said your posts are not proofs

bump

why? What kind of proofs do they want?  A screenshot of scammers said they are liers?? Any reasonable people can see that there are something fishy about these three coins.

those trex ppl knew it from the beginning.they will release the fund to scammer anyway.

actually they love these scam coins very much.such volume much profit.

shit bittrex!!!

So goodbye because there will never be refunds 8)

This is freaking hilarious!  ;D

I have done what I can.

I won't trade on Bittrex anymore.

They will release the money once cluster dev pass through POD, which is very easy just like buying a full member account.

POD is a joke. Never trust exchanges and twitter P&D GROUP.

Good luck, guys!

Two possibilities:
Bittrex stop the scammer, or the scammer stops bittrex.
I vote for the latter.

or they work together.

Was in their IRC and the way richie and rami acted this might not be far away from the truth.

I hope someday there will be exchange that check every aspect of coin (premine, pod, source) before it will be added.

Advise from Richie:
"if you guys would just stop buyign ICOs, devs would stop doing them "

That's how they care about their customers.

Then why was the ICO full up?

Ultimately, if people want to invest their money in a complete stranger's post on Bitcointalk - its not like they don't have fair warning from the countless other similar risky situations.

So.. explain how its Bittrex's fault that people Bought the ICO... ?

Because they were the escrow?

You don't want to get it, right?
Bittrex is the only big exchange providing IPOs atm and forcing IPO scams.

谁给这些货翻译一下，妈蛋，英语落下太多了：

有人把蛋糕放在患糖尿病人的前面，明知道那人患糖尿病并且很可能管不住自己，然后出事了，这完全是病人自己的事？？你们的意思就是：谁叫你管不住自己想去吃的？我不懂法律，不过类似的事情好像不仅仅是病人的过错吧？？
况且b网是有前科的，之前那么多scam，是个人就知道它不干净。全怪用户？

One man put some cakes in front of people with diabetes, knowing that people suffering from diabetes are very likely to eat the cake. Then people eat the cakes, it is entirely the patient's own thing? ? You mean is this: Why did you want to stop myself to eat? I do not know the law, but it seems like something more than just the patient's fault, right? ?
Moreover, there were so many scam coins on bittrex, if bittrex users get scammed only blame users?

[18:57] <@bittrex-rami> hold on we are trying to get a generic answer from the BCT admins
[18:57] <@bittrex-rami> that won't violate their legal obligations

It seems rami is taking some actions to protect ICO investors.

I was thinking the exact same thing! People using crypto because finally currency not controlled by the man. But when people start blaming ex-changer and talking about reporting to SEC ect....do you not realize if enough people complain government will take focus. Guess what happens when government takes focus. Its not just bittrex that is affected. Government already wants to control bitcoin, they would love people like this reporting to them. I dont understand the logic. Anonymous, non-regulated, no tax, and if you get scam you cry for gov.  ???

+1, the first one is more possible

Premine or IPO and all that can be signs, but nothing is a proof. And: The people would also complain if Bittrex wouldn`t add a Coin because doubts without proof. In my opinion the Mainproblem is on Investor-Side. To many people buy to often like Gambler bet in Las Vegas.

There is good money to be made NOT doing any due diligence with all these new coins. If they did basic verifications none of the new scam coins would have made it to the public.

They should not help a proven scammer by releasing funds, they would become part of it. even if they do not care about ethics this will defnitely result in much lower trading volume. BITTREX home of the ICO scammers? not good PR. Please consider this!

Washing their hands like Pilate? providing the means for the scam to carried out and profiting from it?
I could see how they would make a case for added coins that they have no control over the premine etc. But this one is different, this was carried out in their "premises" under their jurisdiction, the thief has been caught in the process and is linked to two crimes being performed within the same day, that's close to $200,000 in fraud!. 

It is in Bittrex best interest to protect its fragile userbase from such obvious "attempts" (attempt because Bittrex still has the last word), it is now that Bittrex must act and show what code of ethics they operate on.

let's open anti scam topic

anti ipo ico

with proofs of scams ..and conclusions ..

let those scams unite us and we fight back

There are no American companies that can facilitate scams and get away with it for long. No matter who they blame for the reasons. They are complicit.

+1, all exchanges reject ICO in the future, except real projects are done.

Sounds good. Proof of Developer (anti-scam) should be decentralized and community driven.

anti scam league.
1. To promote real value in crypto *** no premine, istamine, or ipo ico..
2. To influence on marketplaces to read code and reveal if is something wrong, something hidden..
3. To vote for best dev..best work...
4. Protect us from scams ..and if happened we must reveal all master minds..and make bitcointalk to ban them forever..
5.POD to become standard before coin launch


All interested are welcome..
give suggestions

5.POD to become standard before coin launch   Great!

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=754544

5.POD
Anyone who wants to launch coin first must get POD,
then we must pressure on bittrex and others exchanges to check code before release coin ! And give us proof that is all right to trade..

We must protect ourselves!

Scam is nightmare of crypto and if we do not find some way to stop this madness..US government will..or chinese ..doesnt meter at all it ll hurt crypto, and us all!

EDIT:

Sorry someone already posted the thread I mentioned..

I have been wondering - what role did Maidak play in the Usecoin fiasco? Cause for most part of the pump, I dint even receive my coin from Maidak. It was only after I kept pushing that I got the coins from the Usecoin dev.

More and more people find that it's a scam.

If bittrex won't do anything to protect its users, it's over.

i hope the dev gets raped by some rapid donkeys when hes on his way to spend the money he scammed from us

I was getting suspicious when they removed free distribution at the last moment :D

Someone send a letter from a lawyer to trex outlining their intention to sue for not doing due dilagence and protecting their users. If I had any money at all I would...

I'm sure Bittrex, C-CEX and other exchanges that sponsor ICO's on their platforms
can and should do a better job vetting their offerings; but considering the alternatives,
I prefer to make my alt-coin investments via the ICO process for several reasons  ..

1) I can evaluate a coin that's offered at a fixed price
2) I don't have to download a "wallet" and risk compromising my local computer
3) ICO coins are fairly distributed and on an exchange at launch
4) I can pay the ICO price or place bids/offers at what I feel are approporiate levels

I still have to evaluate each ICO offering on it's own merits ..
If I choose to get involved in a coin ( or not ) exchange sponsored ICOs are
a pretty simple way to do so ..

Triff ..

Who knows where BitTrex.com is based plus even though they have possibly stolen hundreds of thousands of dollars they have done nothing illegal. I've heard this best described as the new wild west, so grab a rope, find em and string em up  ;)

He really makes me laugh.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=754271.msg8516436#msg8516436

here is the evidence which bct admin gave us.

Please check this thread!!!

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=683158.20
In this thread, you would find two confirmed ico scam dev-USE AND CRYSTAL. One possible scam dev-cluster.
And several other accounts in the same pattern. They are all created, stopped posting and are active again in the same period.

They all posted in the same giveaway thread, talked about nothing about altcoin and technique and then suddenly created an altcoin!!


Bittrex said:
* 3 accounts created in a one month period (how many accounts were created during the bitcoin hype period?)
* said accounts were part of giveaway threads (how many accounts were part of the giveaways?)

Not just created in a one month period. How many accounts were created in that period, stopped posting in December 2013 and then active again in May 2014??
How many accounts were part of giveaways and also devs of ico coins? And what's the possibility of three ico devs(two of them are confirmed scammers) appeared in the same thread and talked about philosophy? Let alone only several people were in this thread and there were at least another three accounts in the same pattern.

All three accounts
Essex343 = ClusterCoins Dev
ShameOnYou = UseCoins Dev (confirmed SCAM)
HarryT1923 = Crystalcoin Dev (confirmed SCAM)
and 3 accounts has same IP https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=754271.msg8516436#msg8516436

Very good, I am newbie but I am amazed how easy it is to create altcoin and get on exchange, except investments ect....so many people thinking of making profit but no one thinking about future of coin as a currency and way to buy things and its life in 5 year, I see allot of these coins without much substance, some not even a website. It is like people just playing slot machine or mining for quick buck :/

艹，摆明了是骗子，估计是矿友群惯犯，几个垃圾还帮骗子说话，还POD，POD就是个笑话。
受骗的就那么几个？剩下的人都干看着？等别人去给你们争取权利？
之前说我是国人耻辱的那位貌似还在帮骗子说话？
之前揭发axron和xbit，axron一开始不承认，后来竟然说他和xbit是朋友，帮忙的，这样的鬼话也他妈的相信，活该啊你们！

B网垃圾，联合抵制吧，操他妈的，垃圾骗子作者死全家

Here is a US CFPB advisory on crypto companies: http://files.consumerfinance.gov/f/201408_cfpb_consumer-advisory_virtual-currencies.pdf

Here is where you can file complaints against crypto companies that commit or assist in scams against the public: http://www.consumerfinance.gov/complaint/

可以去投诉B网，如果这垃圾跑路的话

an Clustercoin option could be this

Bittrex offers ICO money back to who ever wants refund PLUS the returned CLSTR Coins are destroyed ?


Say the ICO sold out 3.5 mil Worth @ 10k (350 BTC)  and only 500 000 coins have requested their ICO money back , 500k coins get detroyed as if they were never bought Dev gets their 300 BTC , coin value rises due to less coins in circulation

I was still on the  dev's side until they removed my post
what a BTC grubbing scamming prick they are then !!!

makes me wounder what other ledgit posts were removed I was not fudding just trying to find an aceptable balance between all involved parties


bittrex still needs to remember they are an escrow, and the buyers are being scammed, especailly if it is indeeed the same user

shit just got real

https://twitter.com/scammerdie/status/503736924758999040

scammer confirmed

Yeah this shit is totally fucked up..

I remembered that someone asked dev to say something on twitter to prove himself. But this scammer just kept deleting his posts!!!!!

Bittrex, you are totally fucked.

??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ???

his twitter - https://twitter.com/IshmaelEssex (according to his post (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=217216.msg2586302#msg2586302))

IshmaelEssex search leads to - http://www.linkedin.com/pub/ishmael-evans/39/66b/941   and to http://xexplore.com/10386/call-ishmael/   this is probably wrong (this guyis from LA where is 5AM right now while essex343 usually posts from 7am till midnight which fit England times)

but another - Ishmael Evans - https://twitter.com/ishmeva (from Durham, England (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Durham)) might fit since essex343 claimed hes from London (who would tell anyone on the internet hes real address? but a big known city would be a nice choice )

just some info to play with :)

His timezone is Chinese, same as me, and Chinese scammers like buying accounts to make scam coins.

Some ppl said the dev's English looks like Chinese English, how do u think? I am a Chinese, so i can't judge his English is native or Chinese English

His timezone on the forum doesn't say anything, you set it manually.  Tho his posts usually meet Europe daylight time.

Sorry, shouldn't be timezone, I mean his online time is same as mine, Chinese time.

How do you think his English? Chinese English?

I am no expect nor my English is my main language, but his writing seems ok to me.

does he look like native speaker? :o

I don't know.

I am no native speaker myself but I would say no, he is not.

I mean who uses   `   instead of    '    ?

















Maybe I'm getting hung up on small things but it looks weird :) so many times also

yes, I find his habit too, and some places are used '  so I guess many ppl shared the account

fuck, CLSTR fucking pig dev is deleting posts again

I'm a native English speaker and I can say that he is either a really lazy kid, or he is not native. He uses slightly strange word combinations and misses conjoining words often. I can't find an example at the moment as I am on a phone, but I'll check it out soon.

He must be a Chinese scammer

If bittrex won't help the investors, we should do by ourselves  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=757621

scam dev........

https://bittrex.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/203127460

Refund finally, tks all your good jobs, guys

Your English is very good. Perfect.
His, not native speaking. It's the punctuation which gives it away. IMO the account is Chinese, using VPN, it's a bought account and several people are using this account.
And yes, the posts coincide with Australia time but 1-2 hours off, so highly likely Chinese time

we still need Endcoin lmao

joke aside, there were some good concepts, but the last wave of scam obscured them and now they are worthless, sad thing

wait you are happy to get this scammer but not the Crypti scammer? I spelled it out, ask for quarter of the source code before you lose your money. Fucking idiot.

By the way there is a link between USECOIN and the scammer behind Burst and Crypti. the Simpsons being one of them.

You literally make no sense in your actions.

Good job guys

Cheers to all of us!

I just did the translation for XCR team

so your not invested, fair enough. It is a scam though.

Kinda funny - I opened a separate account and mentioned creating a coin (more of a social experiment than anything).  Within 24 hours I had 3 PM's offering to create a website, blockchain explorer, wallet, custom graphics etc with all prices listed.

I am doing research on that, whitepaper seems cool(I translated it for 6 hours today), waiting the window wallet.

LOL, must be scam coin devs PM you

Gonna watch this I can assure you guys I didn't play any roles other then providing escrow service for the new altcoins. However now I rarely do them anymore.

YES ! The REVOLUTION and the a new era in crypto is happening !!!

I remember this scam, just as clearly as I remember the IRC session where Rami called me a communist, and how he was annoyed with me because I pointed out holes in the Cluster story. He even admitted to not reading the whitepaper, despite hosting the ICO. And there were a handful of trolls that day in the Bittrex channel that were flinging constant insults at me, including pool owners like Chisefu who hurled homophobic slurs in my direction.

Good times.