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They've got an answer

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/09/03/report-credible-information-isis-aqap-planning-11-anniversary-attack-abroad/

"I emphasize that they finish their days under the hot sun in Syria and Iraq, and in the first instant of death meet their eternal flames of Hell. Allahu Akbar!"
- Chechen leader Ramzan Kadyrov

It seems that they need a humanitarian bombing. Though I have no idea why they need that. There are much simpler ways of suicide.

ISIS has threated everybody, US (West), Russia, Israel, Syria, Iran, etc.

It would be really nice if these degenerates (CIA private squad) would unite the world and let this Ukraine/Russia thing chill out.

they must be deluded to try and provoke fights with everyone. i'm guessing they are thinking that even though these other nations are more powerful than them, they can still defeat their enemies with the help of allah.

Purely for PR purposes. The more publicity they get, the more recruits they'll gain. Also, various Islamist groups are engaged in competition among themselves, to attract the most number of recruits. Already more than 10,000 recruits have joined ISIS from the European Union. They have gained recruits even from Indonesia and Thailand.

Like they don't have enough enemies.  ::)

Actually, I would like to see their attempts. This would be interesting show, because Kadyrov's government never negotiates with the terrorists.

i can't tell if they're actually serious about attacking america and other nations. i guess they want to to be confused whether they are really crazy enough to provoke america. an attack on american soil would pretty much guarantee deployment of troops to re-take ISIS strongholds.

i bet the U.S. and west wouldn't mind attack on russia though.. keep them occupied  :D

Wait....

Is Babdad Bob Back?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfAeMtcURg0

Spendulus

I like this link :D

Although the islamist intervention and military invasion aren't the same things, I think that we should get into account the results (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=686828.msg8336735;topicseen#msg8336735) of their activity rather than their speeches. One have successfully restored a country from the ruins while other was failed and his country was destroyed. I'd say that there is nothing to compare. However, monopolizing a right to get the congratulations or allegations also wouldn't be correct.  ::)

Good for publicity. They can try to demonstrate to potential recruits that they are the pawns of no one... neither the US nor Russia. Of course, unless they actually interfere with Russian interests, it is unlikely Russia will do anything to them, so they aren't taking much of a risk by "threatening" Russia.

And they can be destroyed by public ridicule.

I think they are trying to get as much attention and be in the news as much as possible, hoping to steer up trouble.

They got a death wish. Give them what they are so desperately asking for.

"In late September 1985, pro-Iranian Shiites put the snatch on four attaches

from the Russian Embassy in Beirut and warned that the hostages would be executed, one by one, unless the Soviets persuaded pro-Syrian militiamen to stop shelling Hezbollah strongholds in the Lebanese port city of Tripoli.

On that occasion, the "Oppressed of the Earth" were billing themselves as agents of the hitherto unknown "Islamic Liberation Organization," but the KBG had no doubts about who they really were.

Although the Soviets attempted to open channels for quiet negotiations, there was no let-up in the shellings. Only two days after the kidnappings, the body of one of the four hostages was found, shot through the head, on a Beirut trash dump.

So much for quiet negotiations. Having gotten the message, the Soviets decided to send one back.

KGB agents ran the name of a prominent Hezbollah leader through their computers and came up with the name and address of one of his closest blood relatives. They then kidnapped the kinsman, castrated him, and sent his severed organs to the Hezbollah honcho.

The package was accompanied by a terse cover note indicating that the KGB had the names of other close relatives and that Hezbollah could expect more such deliveries unless the three remaining hostages were freed forthwith.

It didn't take much time for Hezbollah to realize it was dealing with a different breed of "Great Satan." The three surviving hostages were dropped off only 150 yards from the Soviet Embassy from a late-model BMW that couldn't drive away fast enough.

Gorbachev didn't call a press conference to brag about what bad-asses his boys were, but Hezbollah obviously concluded that challenging the Russians could lead to more painful consequences than simply losing face.

It's worth noting that this was the last anyone ever heard of the "Islamic Liberation Organization."

By not-so-remarkable coincidence, it was also the last time Hezbollah ever messed with any Soviets in Lebanon."

http://articles.philly.com/1988-02-26/news/26242928_1_islamic-liberation-organization-soviets-hezbollah

Russia can take care of herself, they have faced down bigger bullies than ISIS before
I am no fan of Putin, mind

Good, it's about time someone stands up against Russia's invasion of Ukraine. Pity, all European countries act like chicken, but this is going to be IS versus the world, so the odds are bad, even with more than one billion muslims on the planet.

Will be hilarious to see Obama and Putin joining their forces to defeat once and forever ISIS.I don't know what's more laughable ISIS thinking they are going to act aggressively to Israel or threatening Russia. Putin OPENLY defies and antagonizes the world, and they think the "Poots" wont steam roll over them. If ISIS tries to pull their funny business in either direction,

I've been thinking about this statement of yours. You know, maybe it is the behind-the-scenes reason for their creation? A way for USA/NATO and Russia to back off from the Ukraine conflict without either losing face?

Well the good news is at least one country isn't going to stand for being threatened with violence and death and I have no doubt Russia and Chechnya would come together and destroy ISIS if these threats were acted upon.

Every asinine comments about 'cia backing islamists', I would like to ask, why aren't you investigating how the russians, the chinese, or fucking cubans backing other militant organizations for their own benefit? Do you actually think they are not backing the armed conflicts involving islamists as much as anyone else?

Where were you when cuba sent thousands of its troops to angola to slaughter the opposition and conducted a de facto armed intervention and invasion?

Where were you when chinese communist red army was steam rolling into tibet to rape and pillage, and drain the natural resources of the region and conduct cultural and racial genocide of tibetans, policies which they continue to this very day under so many guises of greasy promises?

Where are all the jihadists when the chinese government confiscates and burns non-state sanctioned quran (the real ones), demolishes the mosques, and executes uyghrs and forces uyghr people to intermarry with han chinese to conduct a virtual extermination of their identity as people? Or are they too afraid to confront an enemy that couldn't give two shits about human rights but like pussies bitch at others who do?

Where were you when nva and vietcong conducted a racial extermination of hmongs?

What inside knowledge do you have, none of which you presented, that makes your delusional rambling about 'ooohh big bad cia/nsa is to blame for every thing' anything more than bitch fest of tantrums? Have you actually worked inside intelligence organs or other government departments and were in a position to access the necessary information?

What other reasons do you have then some conspiracy theory bull shit that's tailored for your mental masturbation pleasures?

The sad fact that this type of nonsense and bitch attitude is being accepted as 'correct' and 'educated' is the main problem. With such selectively moral people who talk out of their mouths as if they know anything, the actual oppressors are too happy to manipulate the so-called 'enlightened' people to their advantage.

The US and Russia may not be best friends, but I welcome Russia's sentiments and wish more countries would follow suit to put an end to ISIS and middle eastern terror groups once and for all.

I agree with you.
In order to stop ISIS, the most dangerous terrorist group in history, everybody should work together, friends and enemies, USA, NATO, EU; Russia and even Iran.

Iran usually don't give a shit, their Revolutionary Guard forces able to protect them from these ISIS/ISIL/whatever.

i think its time for all the superpowers to come together.

ISIS is not to bright they now have U.S., NATO, Russia, Israel, Kurds just to name a few all ready to bring forth their destruction. They have managed to bring together an alliance of strange bed fellows for a common cause. They may win several battles but in the end they will lose the war.

You overestimate the threat that ISIS poses. In fact, as of now, it poses very little threat to the West. If anything, it's doing a good job of attracting radicalized Muslims from the West back to their desert hellhole.

Best option would be to stay the heck out of the middle east. Going in there only ever results in far more trouble than it's worth. The only thing we should do is help evacuate and provide humanitarian help for groups under threat of genocide by ISIS (the Yazidi, etc).

They're making too many enemies, I suspect they won't be around for long, I think you're right guys, this might be something that will bring everyone together, I certainly can't stand the shit heads, they remind me too much of some of the people I see around in my own town, In fact they'll probably be the same people going over there to fight.

Meanwhile in the real world Obama continues airstrikes against ISIS militants in Iraq while Russia sends weapons to Assad which ISIS takes pictures with.

I would like to see this happen also, but can it?
Prior to 9/11 Al Qaeda never put more than ten thousand fighters through their base camps. Then we stupidly took the bait and decided to "beat" them. Now its like 12 years later and we face 100 thousand fighters in the IS splinter group alone. The jihadists hold territory in north Africa, Indonesia, the middle east, Nigeria, The Sahel, central Asia, etc. They are stronger than ever and, IMO, it is no longer correct to refer to them all as terrorists. This is a global movement phenomenon.  I'm not convinced we can beat them via fighting.

At least he will protect his people, Obama on the other hand cares only about ISIS and the Muslims and illegals. Obama is our worst enemy in America. If Putin or if the Chechen leader are the ones who actually "defeat" ISIS, boy, that will be the ULTIMATE slap in the face to Obama. But, I wouldn't it doubt it happening.

It was a good way to smoke the rats out from their pretend 'we are not racist' 'we are religion of peace' bull shit. Now the whole world knows muslims for what they are.

Try to look at it from long view.

Good, let them destroy each other.

There are thousands of mercenaries fighting with the Islamic State from Chechnya and other Caucassian republics of Russia. So there is some interference, although it may not be a direct one. The Russian authorities are already concerned with this, as they believe that these mercenaries can create trouble back home once they return from Syria or Iraq.

AFAIK Chechen fighters came to Syria to fight Assad in the first place. No since all opposition is being slowly weakened, with many fighters joining ISIS, I suppose many of those Chechens will join ISIS as well.
And this can be a real threat to security if they're allowed to go back to Russia.

Remember the Second World War ? Allied force and Russians attacked Nazi Germany from from East and the West to meet each other. How about US & Russian forces meet each other on the ground of Islamic State of Iraq and Syria ? I wish everyone increases their oil reserve before the war break out.

ISIS has accumulated too many enemies, I don't think they will exist much longer

They may be having too many enemies. But none of them wants to do the direct fighting against them, with the exception of Bashar al Assad. Also, the ISIS do have some powerful individuals backing them. And that means that they will exist for a long time to come, and may even expand to new territories, such as Egypt, Turkey and Libya.

Turkey isn't a good option. At first turks are strong and well equipped. The army has a good reputation within the population and it's a NATO member, what would give an excuse for the NATO members, to send an army there. Libya is their best bet, that's a mess without a real government,a lot of islamists  are already there and in addition it's the perfect place to link up with their supporters across the Maghreb, in Sudan and Niger and escalate the whole thing to new heights.

+1

I agree, although it is more complicated then that they might all have one common enemy together.

Al Qaeda has dealt a MASSIVE blow to USA, not in the forms of jets hitting buildings, but in the form of a totally unnecessary and wasteful $3 trillion dollar war, which in part led to massive economic damage to US. I wonder if these guys are just trying to provoke anyone they can to try to screw countries like Al Qaeda did?

This again?

Do some better research. I bet you think housing crisis happened because of the war expenses too.

Just a hint - global economics and national budget doesn't work the same way as a personal checkbook.

Did 9/11 and Iraq/Afghanistan war contribute to the economic depression in 2001/2002?

You need to educate yourself on the definition of 'depression'.

Sorry, recession. Did an economic recession follow the attack and the US actions in Iraq? Or did the Iraq war play no part in in the economic woes that US experienced in 2002 through 2004?

Global instability of any kind leads to varying degrees of economic stagnation - that's a basic fact. You seem to believe that this cycle of economic growth followed by slight recession is the fault of the war. You need to understand basic economics first.

Had US not taken action, it would have resulted in complete instability of global oil supply stretching from europe, india to east asia and we would have had it much worse.

Iraq war played a mitigating role, but none of you fools are appreciative of the fact that we avoided a worse scenario, only what's in front of you 2 feet away.

You fuckers just try to gather together dots without even connecting them properly.

I bet you think you can say 'economic woes' for anything less then a positive growth :)

I was actually referring to (and leading into the direction) the economic stagnation that followed, in large part due to uncertainty and dread surrounding the ongoing war, which had to be "fixed" by trying to stimulate the economy on with very low interest rates, which led to the housing bubble, which, combined with a massively increased government debt, fights over the debt ceiling, and general political and economic instability of the US, at least in small part contributed to the recession we had in 2008, and the current decline that we can't seem to get ourselves out of (is that good for connecting the dots?) Yes, I'm saying if US didn't spend $3 trillion to invade Iraq, it would have been much better off.

How simple :)

Connecting the dots where economics are concerned must not be your forte. Going by that logic, I could also easily argue that not doing anything or not invading iraq would have caused the largest drain of oil resources the world has ever seen, causing an even bigger shock that would have eventually lead to a greater depression due to a housing bubble. The uncertainty from 9/11 would have caused a dip in the economies anyway, and be assured that economic cycle is in full swing now. But it's all because of the war, I assume :)

The housing bubble was in the making since the 90s and especially late 90s when the dot com bubble was coming to a head. Your ulterior motive of trying to slander the war itself at all costs ignores this very obvious fact that the seeds of economic recessions were planted before any war decisions were even considered, certainly before 9/11 and iraq war.

You did not even try to address what greater detrimental impact there would have been if US did not secure anything in the middle east to begin with. The resources themselves were secured better than ever, both physically and economically as a result of US intervention, though you would have to work through the usual bullshit 'waaa you set it all on fire' bitching to actually see the facts.

Why not answer my question? I have already answered yours point by point.

Where does that come from? Were we heavily dependent on Iraq oil? I don't remember Iraq threatening to stop selling it.

The economic woes you reference are the result of the popping of the economic bubble from the late 1990's. If anything the war in Iraq would have stimulated the economy because additional money was spent as a result of war in ways that are the most efficient.

Before the American invasion, Iraq was selling its oil to the Chinese and Russian oil companies. After the invasion, the Americans seized all the fields, and distributed them among the US and EU firms, with a few spare ones going to others. Oil was the main reason why the US invaded Iraq. Don't tell me that they were concerned more with some imaginary WMDs.

Global oil supply. That includes oil transportation routes.

Are you blind to geography?

I don't think you have the slightest idea about how things actually work.

Imaginary? So I assume saddam gassed kurds by telling his people to collectively pass wind in the kurd's general direction?

Saddam long tried to acquire such weapons and obviously had no qualms about using them for extermination purposes even though he only had fraction of what other nations have.

What really matters is not who holds the biggest stick - it's a matter of who is holding any kind of stick in the first place.

Sargat, northern Iraq. They did find a chemical weapons manufacturing and storage facility during operation viking hammer that was conducted in conjunction with kurdish fighters and US special forces.

Considering US equipment and training, half baked usage of unreliable WMD with inaccurate delivery sytem against moving mobile US troops would have been a waste of time, not to mention not using them would have given idiots like you a reason to be manipulated.

Get the picture? If so, think twice before you bitch about 'WAAH WMD' 'WAAAH oil'

I wasn't aware that Iraq was interfeering with global oil supply routes, or with oil production at all. When that whole thing happened, he wasn't really doing much of anything at all. And now Iraq's oil is being pumped by Lukoil, a Russian company. So the only switch was China, then US, and now Russia. I still don't understand how this would affect global oil supplies and prices. Iraq doesn't have a monopoly on the stuff.

Iraq was under American occupation for almost a decade. Show me evidences found by the Americans of those imaginary WMDs held by Saddam, or just shut up. The United States Armed Forces is having the possession of the largest chemical and biological weapon inventory in the world. Before accusing someone else of WMDs, first destroy yours.

There was really never a lot of oil going through Iraq, all the oil that passed through Iraq was produced in the country. What the true threat was that Saddam could have burned the oil fields, destroying a lot of the supply of oil in the country while doing serious harm to the envirement

WTF?

Before the Kuwait invasion, Iraq was producing close to 3,000,000 barrels of crude per day, making it the fifth largest oil producer at that time (behind the USSR, KSA, USA and Iran). And almost 90% of this amount was exported, accounting for almost one-tenth of the global crude exports. Do you still stick to your stand that there was never a lot of oil going through Iraq?

You forgot to quote the second sentence


Maybe your English isn't as good, but going through is not the same as producing. Russian gas is going through Ukraine. Ukraine is not producing a lot of gas.

You seems to be having an IQ level below 70.

I never said that foreign oil passed through Iraq. But the volumes of Iraqi oil itself was quite significant, at over 10% of the world's exports. So the statement "There was really never a lot of oil going through Iraq" is wrong in the first place. 3 million barrels of crude per day is a very very bog amount.

My IQ is just fine. Dankkk said "There was really never a lot of oil going through Iraq, all the oil that passed through Iraq was produced in the country," and you "corrected" him by pointing out that all the oil that passed through Iraq was produced in the country. He said the exact same thing you did. So you better check your own IQ, (since English comprehension apparently wasn't the problem).

Sargat, northern iraq. Chemical and biological weapons manufacturing and storage facility, with traces of ricin and other weapons clearly detected during operation viking hammer. How you conveniently ignore the fact that he gassed thousands of kurds. What, they passed wind to the kurds to choke them to death?

Do your own fucking research before crying over your dead excuse. US abided by its convention of ban on biological and chemical weapons, and have not used them within the last 30 years of warfare. Some countries, on the other hand, liked to use theirs even in smallest amounts as soon as they get their hands on them.

Either learn to do some proper research, or fuck off and keep that mouth shut.

Regardless if we actually found any WMDs or not, there is still evidence that Saddam had gassed his own people (with chemical weapons......chemical weapons = WMDs).

Also even countries that did not participate in the war generally agreed that the world was a better place with Saddaam out of power

'Occupation'.

These people need to get fucked to pieces under real occupation to understand what it means.

Whole world wanted saddam gone. At least there's choice after he's dead.