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...  ethical coins unite ..., let's join forces for specific projects.

Do you have a specific project that relates to science and are looking for a support partner, if so call on Einsteinium we will do what we can to forward your project.   

Support partners usually will pledge to retweet, provide comments, likes, small donations, and endorsements for specific events they choose to get involved with.

Einsteinium is a 'cause coin' we seek to provide funding for science endeavors, we are seeking project partners for small projects involving: educational science. science fairs, science instructors (teachers, professors, mentors, etc ...), or anything else that has a heavy science influence.

 

Do you have a 'cause coin' if so what your cause and target project interests?

Just connecting two dots

IDK what they'd say but you may want to get in touch with Mazacoin. Their cause is the sovereignty of Native Americans.

This is really a good idea. www.worldaidcoin.org has just started and we seek to implement change in the world via helping people and transforming old tech into gadgets for the 3rd world. We should have a discussion.

Thanks for the lead, I will make contact with them at their page, however it would be great if they came here to reintroduce themselves to possibly find some additional community leaders to support their cause.  





I like what your coin has to say, hopefully we can do some projects together.   You are cordially invited to drop by the Einsteinium page located at: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=494708.0 and share your message about your coin and what your ambitions, and vision is for your coin and how you see our communities working together to reach mutual goals.

Ebola is topical subject, EMC2 is considering making a public donation, we need to know who are willing to join our campaign if we carry it forward?

Crowdfunding academic research with cryptocurrencies is in fact excellent idea. When you have collected enough funds, applicants can present their research ideas and crowdfunders can vote on which they want to fund.

indeed, and when you do a crowdfunding campaign you want donors, and non-donor supporters to help with the endeavor.  each project takes lots of effort from very many directions.

As you do the work you will find that everything counts, not just the money, but the efforts as well.

I'm aware that also academic people themselves are very tired in the current system, and there is already a one p2p research crowdfunding system going on, but that's still in fiats only and internal to a certain university. But the p2p foundation has already funded few research programs and the the results are much better than the usual "publish-or-perish-nullstudies" that the hierarchic establishment mostly produces.

nope.. they won't share their PROFIT with you buddy lol

you think these guys are doing it to save the world ? ..come on your not that naive are you ? LOL

if you quote the material you are responding to it helps readers to know the context of your comment  --  what-cha talking about? 

i responded to the topic so duh.. i was talking to the OP unless stated otherwise (welcome to the internet)

Come on now, I see millions of coins donated for various reasons regularly by non-cause coins, EMC2 (OP, I'm one of the admins) as a cause coin have made contributions and will continue to make contributions.  I'm willing to be if you think hard you will remember a time when you donated some of your coins for some reason.

I think you might be on to something here.

There is a very specific song-and-dance that university researchers must perform in order to be awarded funds for studies. Some of this process is necessary and prevents too much quackery or unscientific research from getting public money.

But perhaps there is a way to crowdfund university research projects by exchanging your crypto for a different token that signifies your contribution to the research, or some other reward.

Like with FoldingCoin (check it out if you haven't heard about it), there has to be a second half of the equation -- something to buy with said coins. Personally I would prefer the ability to purchase subscriptions to various scientific journals. JSTOR or Medline access would be another plus.

In the internet age there is no excuse for a pay wall around scientific publications.

Yes on second thought, theres no way those organizations would turn such power over to a bunch of "bitcoiner hackers."

i can link this thread to gridcoin thread here in this forum!

this seems a great initiative.

Thanks for that link

Yes, I notice on gridcoin's site they would like to sponsor "science fairs" EMC2 would also like to do that, as such I think this would be the perfect
icebreaker joint project to do.  Let me know when you are ready to do it we could take the lead, or play a support role, we're ready either way.

It did arrive, someone responded to it, and I responded to them.   

Moments ago the EMC2 board adopted the measure to move forward with plans to be involved with the Ebola project.   The extent of our involvement is contingent on our own community's commitment to the endeavor as well as the various levels of commitment other communities are expected to pledge.

Our board has approved leadership resources, social networking resources, and 1 Million EMC2 coins for the effort; these are all minimums; its important to note that since the endeavor is far larger than all of our previous endeavors we are seeking community ratification.  The project requires strategic partners, not just for currency but for leadership and volunteers as well.

An exploratory committee made up of representatives of each of the involved cause coin will determine if they move forward to take on the project and if so the scope of the project, what the respective communities could be expected to responsibly pledge, and the best way to address the goals of the project. 

Currently two coins are committed to the effort: EMC2 and WorldAidCoin. 

BCT .. wants to work as one.

SPUDS, UNO are willing and can send reps.

water?, edu? ... seem to be bouncing back.

MAZA is here yet?

EMC here yet? kidding :)

OP ... create a roll sheet :)

The Einsteinium News which will be soft-launched in a couple days will have a whole section dedicated to cause-coins.  There are two stories featured in the inaugural issue, they could be viewed at: www.Einsteinium.biz

If you want to contribute a story about a cause-coin concern we would be happy to publish it.

Did you guys make a wallet that works yet?

great call.  

For most who see his post, it's just a simple, relatively harmless, insult.  But for those who know, like you and I, that guy is part of a growing evil force on this site.

He is one of those who are actually setting up accounts for the specific purpose of issuing FUD for pay.   It was bad enough when a member issued FUD in the first place, then they hid behind new usernames, but now some are actually hiring professional FUD artist to do their FUDding for them.   It' obvious this guy is part of one of those teams.

Recently I caught 8 of them at one thread spreading their evil.  His 'wallet reference' is his way of signaling to me that he is one of the 'gang' of FUDing thugs.

Best post i've seen today  ;D

That'd be a good idea but I suppose it'd be hard to be made.But it would be good for the crypto.

emc2? No, thanks.

Any reason?

There is a little bit of subjectivity in what constitutes a cause, ethical or conscious [sic] coin.

I'm not doubting you want to do good things, but spending money on these coins is hardly going to solve big problems, and we don't know what agendas you have, what agendas you will have in the future, and on.

You quote "science" as if it defines all that is good in humanity.

Yet science in itself means nothing really, and philosophers of science (the real ones, not Kuhn and the social sciences mob), rarely agree on what a scientific process is or what science is there to achieve. Christ, they are teaching creationism alongside Biology in some schools.

Then we have the nasty sciences, like eugenics (gaining traction again), vivisection, and all the work that goes into the process of making horrendous chemicals, poisons, toxins, nuclear power.

 
For most cause-coins you have the ability to influence the community as a audience member (with no vested interest), or as a member with a vested interest, orn as a  community leader (with a vested interest).  As a community leader you get to decide to do right or wrong.  

If you care get involved and make a difference.  You will learn that every little bit counts.  

Just so you know, at EMC2 we are looking for projects to fund, so if you know of a school that wants a sponsor for their science fair we would like to do that, if you know of a youtube channel that wants sponsorship please let us know.  If you know of someone that is doing something truly interesting in science and wants some encouragement, support, and money please tell us who that is so that we could consider him for recognition.   We have funds ready to give, but not enough people to find the worthy recipients.  

Would you help us in finding good science related causes to fund?

yes - will do - PM pls when ready :]



@BDSM-Fetish

i think BDSM / Fetish should be party to this cause summit ... you do touch (pun) upon a part of humanity that gets vilified without just cause (philosophically speaking no victim no crime) ... please you bring debate to table.

World Aid Coin are thinking about some mobilisation in Humanitarian relief in South East Asia. We are looking for cooperation. We can put your coin down as one of our Guardians. A very senior guiardian.

PM sent,

You know I support you so I'll gladly bring your project to the attention of the EMC2 board, I remind you that our mission is science research directed so I will likely experience some push back for funding, but I know we can be a strategic marketing partner for your initiative.  We will use all of our social media resources to mention it.

You can also write up the press release or article and I will publish it in The Einsteinium News.

So yes, EMC2 and The Einsteinium News, will help you.

Isn't this what Blocknet is trying to do?? lol (assuming those coins are "ethical" and legit...I don't know is scams or not).

And look what's happend to Blocknet now.  :-\ :-X

I know next to nothing about blocknet, please enlighten me -- tell me all you know about blocknet

scams come in all direction you don't not participate in a coin because one just like it was a scam, if that was the case you would not use any exchange, not join any community, and not invest in any coin.   You do your due diligence (investigate) let them prove themselves and only participate to the extent of your comfort.

get the bad guys with your bad net, not the good guys

Where are we on this guys? 

EMC2 is convening a Vetting Committee

A few days ago I received a message that said in part: "I am a scientist ... at the University of Pennsylvania ... I am working on [the problem of] sleep loss
Some of my work was mentioned http://www.neuroscientistnews.com/research-news/memory-problems-caused-sleep-deprivation-prevented ..."

I did a cursory examination of the facts, and have found that the project is real and that the dots connect.  Now I would like to have the researcher and project vetted for fitness. 

To me this looks like a good project, I want it checked thoroughly so that the board can make a truly informed decision.

I would appreciate it if 3 to 5 people would volunteer to join this committee.   I will appoint a committee chair and will provide some guidance, the committee chair will determine the exact direction that the committee will travel.

Let me know if anyone from this thread is interested in being a part of the EMC2 vetting committee for specifically for this project.



[edit]  Nov 24, we have our first committee member, we now need 2 to 4 more members (including the chairman)

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=791247new#new
Charity coins thread to share ideas on building up, promoting, and maintaining mission integrity of good will and charity. 


BCT is out.  (unstable,possible scam) sucks, great charity/bitcointalk driven concept.

UNO is still in.  :)

Like the idea of working with PhD. researchers 'directly'.  They always lack sufficient funding, crypto can bring them to the grass roots of supporters.

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ROLL CALL
EMC2 /einsteinium/  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=846077 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=846077) www.Einsteinium.biz
World Aid Coin / www.worldaidcoin.org
Aidbit /?
UNO /Annual Blue Crypto Awards/ http://unobtanium.uno/award/?page_id=10 / msg8959242 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=761806.msg8959242#msg8959242)
Maza?
ZIET?
x-child
GRID

--suggested participants--
fuel
karma
spuds
prosper
pink
green
energy
cure
folding
water -caution/needs to be vetted
deaf -caution/needs to be vetted
fettish -the odd duck but they bring debate to the table
tak -pending the community reforms
http://fair-coin.org/

+++++++++
charities working with bitcoin
http://bitcoinblackfriday.com/#cat=5

WARNING !

x-Children's target charity is a CIA front/ operation !

HT you deserve your own coin ... you're an institution unto yourself ... a charitable coin of course :) I kid ... you're the official inspector background checker, from now on.  Glad you've got an eye on things.

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hippy was right this is a DUMP // start again
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BITCOINTALK is for CHARITY
The only alternative crypto currency devoted for BCT forum users and charitable institution around the world.

Charitable institutions to receive 70% share of the premined BCT Coins on behalf of BitCoin Talk Community


LONG LIST
http://bitcoin100.org/charities/

SHORT LIST of 20
_{[alphabetical]}

Acid Survivors Trust International
www.acidviolence.org/

Action on Smoking and Health
www.ash.org/

African Well Fund
www.africanwellfund.org/

Amazon Conservation Team
www.amazonteam.org/

Artists for World Peace
www.artistsforworldpeace.org/

Bailey House
www.baileyhouse.org

Beyond The 11th - widows in Afghanistan
www.beyondthe11th.org/

Book Aid International
www.bookaid.org/

Child Aid - Central American education
www.child-aid.org/

Cleft Lip and Palate Association UK
www.clapa.com/

Coral Reef Alliance
www.coral.org/

EngenderHealth - maternal health, HIV/AIDS and gender equity.
www.engenderhealth.org

FilmAid International - displaced communities 
www.filmaid.org/

Free Wheelchair Mission in developing nations.
www.freewheelchairmission.org/

Guide Dog Foundation
www.guidedog.org/

Helen Keller International
www.hki.org/

India Development and Relief Fund
www.idrf.org/

International Gay & Lesbian Human Rights Commission
www.iglhrc.org/

Marine Mammal Centre
www.marinemammalcenter.org/

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https://twitter.com/bctcoin
http://www.bctcoin.com/

I'm not the one promoting obvious scams. YOU are. :o

Save the flattery for yourself.

This will never work as long as every single project has its own Crypto. Cryptos supporting altruistic goals has been nothing new since about 1 1/2 year now. Countless cryptos have been created to focus on one (in most cases) altruistic mission. Since they are so fractioned their overall impact is small. If the people supporting "Cause Coins" really want to unite they should abandon their own little game and instead join a more sophisticated projects. Crypto is actually very damaging when it comes to this, since most community members are now also invested into the coins they are supporting. You could see it as a do-good Ponzi scheme.  It takes some real courage to abandon your own project and set aside the egoistical goals it has bound yourself to.
I have made my decision for a larger project already, so I am biased towards a single crypto. However I call out to every rational thinker seeking to install this to break their decision down to:
1. The ethical coin with the most dedicated and active developer
2. The coin that has the highest market cap
3. The most advance technology
4. The most active community
5. Has been around the longest

You said: "This will never work as long as every single project has its own Crypto."  What is the "this" that you are talking about.   Working together?

You said: "Cryptos supporting altruistic goals has been nothing new since about 1 1/2 year now."  Nor does it need to be new.

You said: "Countless cryptos have been created to focus on one (in most cases) altruistic mission."  Countless?  I only know less than 10 cause-coins, how many can you name?
Whatever the number, my guess is it won't be 'countless'.

You said: " Since they are so fractioned their overall impact is small."   Given that there is very little overlap for the various cause coins, the only "overall" there is is caring, so from that perspective the cooperative impact is far greater than if there was only one cause-coin or no cause-coin at all.

You said: "If the people supporting "Cause Coins" really want to unite they should abandon their own little game and instead join a more sophisticated projects."  Specialized cause-coins are designed with a specific purpose in mind there are things one coin may do that another coin would never do but the two coins may have some things that they are willing to do for one anther at times.   

You said: "Crypto is actually very damaging when it comes to this, since most community members are now also invested into the coins they are supporting. You could see it as a do-good Ponzi scheme."  you need to do a lot more study about the various cause coins.  EMC2 is nothing like a Ponzi scheme.  

You said: "It takes some real courage to abandon your own project and set aside the egoistical goals it has bound yourself to."   Only you are asking people to abandon anything, and you appear to be doing it for no good reason.   No one needs to abandon their coin, just like no one needs to abandon any of their children in order to support any of the unique talents of the others.

You said: "I have made my decision for a larger project already, so I am biased towards a single crypto. However I call out to every rational thinker seeking to install this to break their decision down to:
1. The ethical coin with the most dedicated and active developer
2. The coin that has the highest market cap
3. The most advance technology
4. The most active community
5. Has been around the longest"


Whenever I'm told to focus on: 'the biggest', 'the oldest', 'the most experienced', 'the richest', 'the most populated', or even the most popular I'm reminded of Mt. Gox.
Because so many people wrongly thought that size, tenure, and worth should necessarily mean best the CC industry lost a 1/2 Billion dollars.

I take it that you support Gridcoin.  I like Gridcoin too, and I personally know that EMC2 reached out to Gridcoin on numerous occasions with actual projects that were appreciated by the Gridcoin community but NONE adopted by the Gridcoin leadership.   

On the Gridcoin website it indicates that they want to sponsor science fairs, it just so happens that EMC2 is open to sponsor science fairs.  So EMC2 said to Gridcoin let's co-sponsor many different science fairs around the world.  Gridcoin leadership said that Gridcoin was not ready yet.

As you have pointed out, Gridcoin has been around for over a year, has a high market cap, advanced technology, and active community you would think they would have an active foundation doing with very many donations under their belt, right?    EMC2 is about 1/2 the community size, 1/3 the age, 1/4 the technology, and 1/5 the market cap so you might think they would be far behind Gridcoin in doing donations.   However, EMC2 has made many donations to science and is vetting a new candidate right now -- you are welcome to join the vetting committee.
 
Each coin has their own plan for how they choose to operate, there is not one-plan-fit-all for cause-coins, each operates at their own pace, that should be respected.

Thanks for your reply Armis, I really should take up a habit of posting longer and more into detail discursions to eliminate any dis-ambiguity. I am not attacking your decision to be committed to Einsteinium, I think these goals are noble and that your party has had some significant presence. Also my claims that Einsteinium is a Ponzi and that there are "Countless Cause Coins" was an exaggeration to convey my point. I did this to illustrate that a lot of people who claim to have these altruistic goals (I don't) have been misled into a scheme where they cannot move away from again.
I agree, this does sound very much like a call for a second MtGox. However, MtGox did have the biggest impact on the market at the time. Since we have established that capital gains and profits are only the secondary goals, newcomers should choose their coins according to the impact they could potentially have. The larger an organisation is the greater will its influence be, whether it is for the better, or worse.
Yes, EMC2 has reached out to Gridcoin and has received a positive response as well. The whole community is at the moment still dedicated to ensure that the improved, current protocol is water proof. Once that is done other goals can be taken into action. A lot has been planned already and is awaiting its release come its time. This will include outreach and support (also of a technical and educational nature) towards institutes, fellowships, universities, crowdfunding platforms and development funds.
Thanks for the invite I will see what can be done :) .

I think the main critique I have is that a new cryptocurrency does not need to be created for every single outreach and interest group. Instead outreach could be done over Bitcoin and finally make use of all the great contracting and asset control tools that have been created for this purpose. The only purpose I see for this is to get people hooked on their specific scheme.

You said: "The only purpose I see for this is to get people hooked on their specific scheme."

Bitcoin and over two hundred other coins were created long before EMC2, however it wasn't until EMC2 was created that EMC2 grant winners were recognized for their dedicated hard work by any cryptocurrency community.  

Make no mistake, World Aid Coin, and Aidbit are also CC communities (read The Einsteinium News at www.Einsteinium.biz) doing what they can for people outside of the CC community.

Getting people "hooked" on doing good, is good.  Support the coins that are doing things to make this world a better place.

In the coming days, weeks, and months EMC2 will be taking major steps to help more people in bigger ways to help more people in bigger ways.

If you know of a worthy cause and want some support contact us, we have multiple ways to provide assistance.


 

That boils down the intent here into a sentence.

Charities exist.  Crypto Coins exist.  

This tread is an attempt to see how to bring the two together.

How's this for a thought ...

People voluntarily building up organizations that do good (there's a word for that) that they can in turn own and thus govern.

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I welcome any and every coin.  My objective is to find out how to make ideas a reality, and create a resource for best practices (based on real world experience) for everyone, and simplify the framework/blueprints for the up starts.  A side benefit is that charity coins can sometimes work together on a particular project.

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@DrGrid

You are attempting to make sure the "improved, current [Grid] protocol is water proof"

This is what we need to share.  What kind of protocols work, and which ones do not work.  Please continue on this line of insight.    

Excellent idea, we at x-children are close to send our airdrop for the children in the war zone in Gaza.
The donations will go to Save the children, paid in Euros.
Right now, mining child isn't really profitable but we need to maintain the chain active.
I was considering adding merge mining, and think maybe we can implement something with your team.
We also want to collect more donations, since the btc value is affecting our exchange rate negatively, and the donation funds took a big hit since launch.
Feel free to contact me via PM.
Kind regards,
ivanlabrie.

sure I'll follow up with you

@ivanlabrie ... hello.

Good Point:
merge mining ... uno is investigating this feature ... and for pure charity coins merging might be the difference from unstable/unsafe to viable/secure.  Also EMC2 is testing the stakes solution.   

This should be part of the agenda, finding solutions and credible devs for stabilizing low hash networks.

What is up with the ongoing delay ?

Why do you insist on giving to a charity known for being a CIA front operation ? (Even if it wasn't, 80% of the money goes to the fat assess running it.)

Why did Billy/Enrico use coins from his personal stash to cover the airdrop sent to the person doing the escrow ? (tip : next time.. use coin control. ;) )


If you had kept your word and sold the airdrop as it was initially planned (2 months ago !), the charity would have recieved 40x the amount it would today. Instead we see you groveling over at the VERT thread..

Hippie tech: Do you have any personal agenda towards our project?
I can't see anything productive coming from this type of accusation, I'll try my best to address your concerns, but I've already had to face these attacks before, and they are not justified.

What is the problem with the donation address?
The main pool sent 40% of the mined coins to the donation address we originally had in the OP.
We then transferred those coins to the escrow address.
If Enrico had the same amount and transferred them from his address, or not, it's the same thing, the end result is absolutely the same, and I don't see any harm in him or anyone buying, mining, or holding coins.
As part of the team, we like to think the project will succeed, since our intentions are good, and this being our first crypto coin, we invested in it, by renting mining rigs and buying what the miners recklessly dumped.

Where did we go wrong?

Another thing, we'd like to clear things up regarding Billy Berlusconi. He is NOT Enrico. Enrico is the person who controls the x-labs account here, and he was one of the persons who came up with the idea of CHILD, as well as an active supporter since day one.
I recall you confusing him with Billy in one of your posts in our main thread, but besides that not being relevant, it's simply not true.
We have nothing to hide, we posted proof of our intentions and connections as well as our identities.

As for the airdrop, we announced we would do it by the 11th, and we will.
By any chance, have you donated any coins or sent money to any charity? (or helped people in need personally?)
That's what we set out to do, so I really don't understand why someone would focus on attacking such a project.

The biggest holders are some of us, but also other supportes who believed in the cause, and/or maybe thought this coin would attract buyers based on its real world value and significance.
Those people can't sell at a loss, so you see them holding coins. Me and the rest of the team have coins, and it's simply the normal thing to do, to believe in your projects or enterprises, and invest time and money in it.
It's a rough time for cryptos, with BTC dropping continually and the host of scams this community had to suffer.
I hope you reconsider your stance, since we didn't give anyone reason to believe we weren't legit in our view.

Hippie tech: do you have any ideas on how to improve our project, or how to make a joint effort to help those in need through cryptos?
That's the reason this thread was created, and we intend to work towards that goal, giving cryptos a purpose other than enriching the scammers and making the bigger fool go broke.

ivan, your coin is shit. The name is shit, the organisation is shit. You deleted hippietech from your thread and called him mentally ill and now you act as if you're the nice guy because you can't delete him in this thread.
What a hypocrite shit your posts are.

Thanks for the friendly remarks.
Hippie tech's accusations make no sense, and your attack out of nowhere doesn't speak highly of you either.
I believe people have an agenda against our coin, simply because it's not the usual whale backed scam.
Do you have anything productive to say?
If not, I'd say 'you're shit' more accurately reflects yourself.

http://www.forumgarden.com/forums/attachments/just-fun/26008d1235272894-nomad-left-his-tinfoil-hat-behind-dapperfront.jpg

0.1 btc only today

Then why the hate? Got nothing else to do?
...get lost.

Had you or Billy/Enrico responded properly and honestly to our concerns, we wouldn't be here hounding you as we are today.

When I asked about the irregular/ odd donation addy blockchain explorer entries, Billy/Enrico/x-laboratories chose to refer to me as an "average Joe".
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=754195.msg8909143#msg8909143

Then on the following post, I was labelled a fellon. :o
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=754195.msg8909162#msg8909162

Soon after, I became an ape, thanks to my revelation about Billy's identity conflict(s).
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=754195.msg8913268#msg8913268

If Billy and Enrico are two seperate individuals, why did you, ivanlabrie claim, "Billy is a nickname" ?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=754195.msg8913252#msg8913252



Btw.. I turned down Armis' very recent offer to become an EMC2 Vetting Committe board member. You should go take that spot and go VET YOURSELF.. and Billy/Enrico ... ::)

You know how these italian guys can react eh?
Your attacks didn't make much sense to us, and offended us, since we put so much work into making a coin that set out to do some good for a change. We could have done a random scamcoin and made more money instead...
In all seriousness, I'll address your points:

-Billy is a nickname for Berlusconi's nephew, that's what I meant. You can check out the sources I posted, where his identity and link to x-children is confirmed (in italian media, actual newspapers, and even television!).

-Enrico is the x-laboratories acct owner here, Billy doesn't have a bitcointalk account. He worked with him to create the currency, and invested money in the official pool rented hashpower (the one which donated 40% of the funds).

Clearly it was all a misunderstanding...About the transactions, we just let the pool send 40% of the coins to that address, and even sent some manually from our wallets. I don't see what the problem is/was regarding that.

Anything else?

ivanlabrie, I think you have responsibly addressed many of Hippie's misplaced concerns.  Perhaps it is best to simply move forward with examples of projects you have worked on or successfully completed, no need to dwell on negativity.

I agree, just wanted to get that out of the way...I don't have a personal problem with him, so let's move on and stop derailing the thread.

Hippie tech: feel free to pm me or post in the x-children thread.

Let's kick this off with the merged mining idea and ways to work together with important charity and research projects.

We can:

a-Create a network of cause-coins, maybe a descentralized asset in the NXT, BTS and Qora networks?
b-Make said network a merged mineable joint effort, to keep the networks safe, or just go for a fork of some kind to get rid of mining altogether and incentivize holding. I was thinking of some form of carry trade, that'd be new in this field. We can have interest being paid to holders on some coins, and low interest for borrowing other coins. This would imply some form of exchange that allows one to borrow margin for trading. Altcoin margin trading would be something exciting, and definitely new.

Thoughts?

i made some searches on "ivanlabrie" and i came up with a lot of oddities. Looks like a fabricated identity to me.

"best to simply move forward with examples of projects you have worked on or successfully completed, no need to dwell on negativity"
+2

HT your point has been made, the question/caution mark has been noted on CHILD, we are all aware, but this is not the arena for prosecution of nor defense of ... another thread pls.

We could discuss premine/donation funds.  Who handles them?  What measures are taken to vet fund custodians.  Are there workable multi-signature models?

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A.  decentralized asset in the NXT, BTS, BTC-colored coins and Qora networks
B.  network a merged mineable joint effort, to keep the networks safe
C.  merged group of blind trustees ... hold keys but they know not what lock it unlocks
D.  Altcoin margin trading / carry trade (weak markets?)
E.  a common coin, 95% for accounting purposes, used to joint-share :: tech and financial assistance; 5% for minor website project
F.  cause-coins (as an interest group) should consider creating a letter to request some cause-coin pairing be done at targeted exchanges,
starting with:  Bittrex and C-CEX [general commission on exchange listing/fund drives]
G. clocking confirmation times LONG, to prevent pumps
H. holding incentives
I . Swarm / Kickstarter fast track teams

As BitcoinNational has indicated EMC2 is seriously considering 'folding' as a way of "mining".  Also, the EMC2 community has already voted for a POS conversion as soon as practically possible; so the likelihood is weak that we will do any merge mining.   The "incentivized holding" is something I pitched to the board recently because I noticed how many of the tiny wallets are just sponging up tiny profits making it very difficult for the coin to gain traction.   But the board wasn't interested in the 'mini-pos' idea.  

What do you mean by "carry trade"?  

As for "borrowing" and "altcoin margin", the markets are far too weak for that sort of thing.

Having a 'cause-coin' network is an excellent idea.  I spoke with three exchanges recently to consider allowing EMC2 to be paired with other cause-coins.  

Big ideas like the above are good (you should PM bitcoinNational more about that), but I strongly feel we should connect on some simple level first.

I'm confident that as we accomplish our respective missions that our coin values will increase, EMC2 is looking for projects all of the time.  We get donations every day so we are not short on funds, but we are short on mission oriented worthy causes to donate the funds to.  

Even if we can't donate money we are willing to help with publicity, marketing, voting and other such supportive work.



[edit] seems as I was creating my post BitcoinNational posted before me.  

Excellent points!

Let's start by looking at bitUSD and how shorts work in the BTS sphere: http://wiki.bitshares.org/index.php/BitShares/Short

I think we need to take a good look at this, because it might lend the ideal platform for the kind of incentivized holding I proposed.

As for the weakness of the markets yes, currently altcoins aren't in the best shape, but it partly relates to the abundance of scams, exchanges going bust, moolah and mintpal drama...
We can change that by going with a descentralized model, which is what Bitcoin set out to do initially, and what having centralized exchanges completely disregards as important.

What do you think about the bitasset idea? How can we move forward with that?
I'll invite a local delegate into the discussion, since I am in Argentina and know these people are working towards real world implementations in my country.

A major part of my vision for EMC2 is to enlarge our community by creating meaningful relationships with other coin communities.  To that end the Intercoin committee was formed.  The goal for the Intercoin committee is to find ways to enable various coin communities, particularly cause-coins, to get stronger individually though shared resources and strategic combining of efforts. 

The EMC2 Intercoin Committee membership is:

Armis - (committee chairman) representing Einsteinium coin
Gravitate - representing WorldAidCoin
FoldingCoin - representing FoldingCoin
BitcoinNational - representing UNO coin
and
ivanlabrie - representing CHILD coin

This committee is accepting membership requests from leaders of all coins not yet represented. 

Glad to be a part of this joint effort.
Exciting times ahead!
All the best,
Ivan.

LOL What color is the sky in your vetting committee's world ?

Go on .. read it again.. ;) I'm sure it will make sense one of these times. haha
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=754195.msg8913252#msg8913252

err... Let me spell it out for you. :P

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nickname

When you reference someone in that way, it can only mean one thing : 1 person, 2 names. :o

If you found my free** noob vetting service helpful, plzzzzzz tip the BTC addy seen on my profile. 100% of the proceeds will go to : http://www.gazaark.org/ and/or http://freedomflotilla.org/
**1. Not redeemable for cash or any other item. 2. Limit of one free noob service per scam. 3. Poster's FAIL or blunder required. ;D

Now you're twisting our words...
Don't you see it's too complicated to make sense?

We have proof, actual proof from REAL newspapers, and italian television that Billy Berlusconi is part of the project.
Even if Billy were Enrico like you say, what would change? What do we gain by doing that?

Let me spell it for you: N O T H I N G.

I'm seriously done discussing with you, you have nothing to add, you are trolling, by the book.

EDIT: if you are so concerned with our evil doings, why don't you do some good yourself and donate money to a charity of your choice instead of wasting your time with us?

http://www.tgcom24.mediaset.it/2014/video/x-children-la-moneta-virtuale-per-i-bimbi-di-gaza_2036114.shtml

https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/berlusconi-love-cryptocurrency-save-children-gaza/

http://www.panorama.it/news/x-children-beneficenza-tecnologia/

http://www.xlabstudio.com/whitepaper.html

http://www.ilgiornale.it/news/cronache/bitcoin-e-monete-virtuali-fare-beneficenza-x-children-si-pu-1047583.html

Does this mean that vetting Billy/Enrico is out of the question ? ::)

Btw, demanding accountability in any regard, is never a waste of time.

Let's not derail this thread, we'll post updates in the main CHILD thread.
And questioning if Enrico is the same person as Billy makes no sense in my opinion.
I really don't see the point in that discussion, nor why would you think they are the same person.
It's a random conclusion in my view.

Hippie Tech do you have any Cause or Ethical or Conscious or Charity coin to suggest?  Your addie indicates you have interest in Causes ... do any of them have a coin?   If not perhaps you could develop a coin for them.

The following was written to the Opal community, it may also pertain to members of many other communities: 


"ATTENTION PLEASE READ ASAP

We found that a user (diabanhxeo ID# 210031) posted a malicious post which included links to a hacked version of our wallet. This wallet installed a backdoor on some users computers which in turn stole their wallet.dat files from multiple coins. Through checking him out, we see he has posted many links to other coins's wallets, which we assume are also malicious.

If you downloaded the latest windows wallet from this thread, that was part of a reply and not our original post. Please scan your computer now for malware. Only download the wallet from our website opal-coin.com and not any other links in the thread. The source of the wallet should only be from "wallets.opal-coin.com" and no other domain.

We apologize for any inconvenience. We are dedicated to our community.

Thanks,

The Opal Team"




Please share the above message with others.

https://doabitofgood.com/Directory

good post EMC2 will be signing up soon

I remember seeing another site that was built very close to the look of the above site. 

After being advised by Armis to post here, please find our offer of hosting below:

Belated thanks for the hosting on PICISI project.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=957862

 
[ANN] PICISI ... A Multi-Coin Community Crowdfunding Cooperative Plan ... ★★★★★ 

No problem, glad to be part of a great project.

PICISI project ontrack to do good.

Note:  Crypto is still trying to stand on it's feet.  And yet the cause/ethical/Conscious coins are already linking up.

Good things to come cause greater things to happen.

PICISI as initially designed would actually make millions if the coins involved actually performed as prescribed.  When the articles were written, everyone was pleased and wanted to be on board.  However what I didn't know is that 90% of the people that responded only read a fraction of the material and assumed the rest:  some thought it was simply a place where their coin could be used, but it is far more than that; some thought it was a place where they could advertise their coin, it is far more than that too;  and a few even thought it was a site where they could crowdfund their projects, but it is far more than that too.   The bottom line however was that it was misunderstood.

Instead of trying to focus on the original plan that requires massive organized participation, I'm going to scale it down to a size that requires far less outside participation and far less resources to graduate from level to level over time.   It should be ready to introduce publicly in the coming days.

Hello Ethical coins. I am creating a physical bitcoin with the logos of other AltCoins on. There will be only 100 made and these coins will have a prize for someone who can decifer a string of codes on the back. The prize will be 3 Bitcoin in Altcoins. The value of the silver coin will be 1 Bitcoin (the private key will be hidden under a holographic sticker)..


MY QUESTION TO ALL  ETHICAL COINS.

Do you want to feature your coin on this physical coin and do you want to provide 0.5 BITCOIN in your coins currency in prizes?

Let me know via PM as the design is getting finalised this week.

http://www.batcon.org/

http://picisi.blogspot.com/
https://plus.google.com/+PICISIcom

gentlemen please connect with us via twitter: @PICISIproject



Our blog is at PICISI.org   you may publicize any of your material there, send it to us via twitter direct message

http://quttera.com/detailed_report/www.batcon.org

http://quttera.com/detailed_report/www.biodiversitas.org.br

https://www.virustotal.com/cs/url/5175d22c02f61fb823fe39247baae3b265ff5351577ebbceef91eef023464965/analysis/1446165725/

@Hippie Tech

i appreciate your perptueal vigilaince I assure this is just trying to find coincidently ways for the crypto BAT to help fund an organization dedicated to winged mammals knows as 'bats'.  very little intrigue ... look more for how Rockafeller clans and the contenital figureheads share mutual interests ... this is just an attempt to help flying mices.

With our projects BARR and OFFS Altcoin Offset Credits, we are recycling altcoins and reducing altcoin emissions. 

Any project can work to remain Altcoin Emission Neutral by earning Altcoin Offset Credits, which allows them to help reduce the number of altcoins in existence.  Groups, companies, and individual developers can use their OFFS Altcoin Offset Rating to show a good faith effort to offset the pollution of altcoins, and balance their own coin emissions by reducing and recycling other coins.

BARR is only earned by burning altcoins, and BARR-Certified Altcoin Offset Credits (OFFS) are only earned by burning BARR. 

Anyone's Altcoin Offset Rating can be independently verified through a decentralized process, simply by checking an account's current balance of OFFS.

AudioCoin (ADC) is a project to bring ethical transactions and transparency to the music industry.
http://www.audiocoin.eu (http://www.audiocoin.eu)

Very interested in working with other ethical coins/groups

alt Ethical coins will come about.
Phase I was rapid launch of any concept that stuck for more than 48hrs, PnD ops.
Phase II was market discovery shake outs ... wheat shaft stuff. 
Phase III is organizational interconnections ... where here now.
Phase IV is legit ALT products that you buy/sell reading the morning news ... be your own bank ... general consumer level.

So soon is the time for ethical coins/groups to get back together, now that feasible platforms and better capital instruments are more clear.

Cheers
BN

We'd like to donate some OFFS Altcoin Offset Credits to any ethical coin projects, so they can display their contribution to the crypto ecosystem.

Owning OFFS allows you to advertise your BARR-Certified Altcoin Offset Rating with a "We Recycle" logo, to show that your project is giving back rather than just taking.

OFFS are only earned by recycling BARR, and BARR is only earned by recycling altcoins.

For more details, see the OFFS ANN:  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1233350



http://barr.me/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/OFFS_Certified.png

http://barr.me/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/PermanentRating.png

Just to clarify, I will be donating the OFFS from my personal funds which have already been earned by burning my personally-held BARR, which was earned by burning my own altcoins.

In other words, there is never any free premine giveaway or anything like that.  These coins always represent a real reduction in altcoin supply.

I was hoping to see Charitycoin make a comeback, but I still get no connections. It would be a good addition here also.

1. Calling All Cause Coin, Ethical Coins, and Conscious Coins ... no need to be a coin specifically marketed as such ... Doge, Eth, Dash, etc. ... could participate.

2. Let's Work Together ... I think this is more about finding cross community platforms to highlight everyones select causes/programs ... and perhaps creating joint funded causes/programs.

I would suggest no more coin network launches.  Been there done that.  Some have survived, so re-gather, re-group.

BUT
@runpaint I like the idea of a burn program charity fund much in the format of BARR/OFFS

A collective project where multiple coins would work together is the best thing that could happen for all those involved.

Einsteinium (EMC2) was going to be the flagship back in 2014.  I am not sure of the current state of health of that coin any more.
Also PICISI https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=957862 looked promising but appears to have fizzled and faded.

Still around:

CURE
FOLDING
GRID
others?
are branded "Cause Coin, Ethical Coins, and Conscious Coins"



Still lacking a core "Cause Coin";
hence I suggest looking to an 'asset' verses 'coin' because launching a network and not eroding donated capital seems impossible.

Open to ideas here.

My suggestion is have 'asset' based programs that any and all coin communities can contribute towards.
And work with already established charity groups.

EMC2 is still worked on.
PICISI's activities were paused to work on a new website.

You're right creating a new network wouldn't help the coins, the asset is a good idea

Gridcoin vs curecoin https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1422750.0

A teacher contacted us yesterday to help the project of students.
Is there other coin interested? we'll share the informations to those interested.

@emc2

good to see you back ... i was not sure if you all was still active :)

CURE
FOLDING
GRID
audio

seem to be 'interested'

Major Earthquake in Ecuador
Dev of a coin lives in Ecuador

Crypto called to help!!!

1.  EcuaMobi can get donations directly into the hands of regional disaster ministers. (no middle man)
2.  You pay in BTC and you get some CAPT (the coin he dev'd trades on 2 exchanges)
3.  Yes it is kind of like trading gold for buttons, but the goal is to see if we can get crypto working directly on the ground in times of disaster.

Ready to join this group with EICO (Ethical ICO) of a ReOrder & OxyPay financial platforms soon

There is ethical fintech or blockchain accelerator in London. Can we partner with them ?

Guys this is awesome to see. I'm just getting into the space and love the community vibe. ;D

So my name is Papa and I'm launching a cause coin... it's literally called Causecoin. The idea behind it is two fold; 1- to fund some anti homelessness work in the Uk, and 2- to model being a store and measure of social value, and be a method people can support activists wider in general.

Dear Einsteinium team, I'd LOVE some help with finding developer support for my upcoming ICO. I'm up to draft 3 of my whitepaper and really want this to work. any and ALL help on getting developer support would be appreciated.

Based in the UK. Hoping that Causecoin can help activists and people with great social impact causes without borders though!