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Title: Stop discussing war and politics. You are feeding the fire.
Post by: dank on October 04, 2014, 09:09:07 PM
There is no need to discuss war or the vastly great, illusive, power of the government.

By speaking of the government and their doings, you are giving them power, you are manifesting their control over reality into existence.

Your thoughts create your reality.  The truth is, the government does not rule the world, you do.  We control everything about this world as individuals in a collective.

Stop focusing on what you perceive to be negative and it will stop manifesting in life.

The world is turning into a beautiful place.  Unless you believe the government can convince their armies to slaughter every child that stands on this earth, there is no reason to fear the future.  We are the future.

Humans forgot how to live as a child even as they age.  Let go of the past and live in the moment of now.  Each day is a new day.  What made us young as children was the light we each held as we entered this earth.

Regain that light by bettering your physical and mental self and others around you.

If you wish to end the horror you see in the world, all we must do is spread the light from ourselves to one another.  We do not need to fight.  All we need is love.  Love spreads endlessly.


Title: Re: Stop discussing war and politics. You are feeding the fire.
Post by: Window2Wall on October 05, 2014, 03:21:38 AM
This is not true. When events that are taking place throughout the world are discussed society is able to hold people accountable and can influence politicians/world leaders to not continue a war if such an action is appropiate


Title: Re: Stop discussing war and politics. You are feeding the fire.
Post by: Grand_Voyageur on October 05, 2014, 06:20:14 AM
This is not true. When events that are taking place throughout the world are discussed society is able to hold people accountable and can influence politicians/world leaders to not continue a war if such an action is appropiate

+1. You've a point. Democracy is all about people holding their representatives & Government accountable for their policies.
 8)


Title: Re: Stop discussing war and politics. You are feeding the fire.
Post by: Bogleg on October 05, 2014, 06:22:12 AM
This is not true. When events that are taking place throughout the world are discussed society is able to hold people accountable and can influence politicians/world leaders to not continue a war if such an action is appropiate

+1. You've a point. Democracy is all about people holding their representatives & Government accountable for their policies.
 8)

By this definition, we do not have democracy in US or Europe. No one seems to be responsible and accountable for anything.


Title: Re: Stop discussing war and politics. You are feeding the fire.
Post by: Grand_Voyageur on October 05, 2014, 06:56:28 AM
This is not true. When events that are taking place throughout the world are discussed society is able to hold people accountable and can influence politicians/world leaders to not continue a war if such an action is appropiate

+1. You've a point. Democracy is all about people holding their representatives & Government accountable for their policies.
 8)

By this definition, we do not have democracy in US or Europe. No one seems to be responsible and accountable for anything.

You cannot vote in Local/General Elections? Your country hasn't a functional and free Judiciary system?
Obviously people must care about holding their representatives & Government accountable otherwise No one would be held responsible and accountable for anything.


Title: Re: Stop discussing war and politics. You are feeding the fire.
Post by: freedomno1 on October 05, 2014, 06:58:32 AM
Then this whole section has no meaning
Actually I guess there is still the society parts without the politics.
Like a topic on watching Glee and the impact it has on people lol.

Lets spread the Glee and don't stop believing in that feeling.  
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZY2V3Rmy8s


Title: Re: Stop discussing war and politics. You are feeding the fire.
Post by: dank on October 05, 2014, 11:48:11 AM
This is not true. When events that are taking place throughout the world are discussed society is able to hold people accountable and can influence politicians/world leaders to not continue a war if such an action is appropiate

The people hold almost no influence over governments by acknowledging their authority.  They have their own agenda, one which does not seek public approval.

If you wish governments and all the problems they bring, such as war, tyranny, famine, poverty and economic slavery to end, then all we must do is stop believing in their power.  Their power is an illusion.  It is only through your fear of their being that allows them to hold any power over the world.

If we continue to manifest the negative events and media into society, negativity will continue to happen.  If we focus on the positives happening all around the world each and every day, they will rapidly proliferate into existence even more so.

The mainstream media rarely touches the true revolutionary ideas and actions, they'd prefer to shed light on the darkness of the world to scare you into a dependence of their information and government 'protection'.

Don't dwell on the negatives, world peace is around the corner, earth is physically raising in consciousness with the universe around us.  This is the best time of existence, focus on the positives, there are plenty more than negatives.  We've all walked a long road, we all deserve to feel limitless amounts of peace, so don't make the the best time on earth into the worst experience of your life.  The past is the past, it's gone, live for now.


Title: Re: Stop discussing war and politics. You are feeding the fire.
Post by: antonioserrano72 on October 05, 2014, 11:49:13 AM
Wise advice from Dank.


Title: Re: Stop discussing war and politics. You are feeding the fire.
Post by: mailmansDOGE on October 05, 2014, 11:53:04 AM
Then this whole section has no meaning
Actually I guess there is still the society parts without the politics.
Like a topic on watching Glee and the impact it has on people lol.

Lets spread the Glee and don't stop believing in that feeling.  
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZY2V3Rmy8s

I never thaught I'd find a bitcoiner to like Glee. That's the first song that comes to mind then I hear of the word Glee.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_1qFJSiz6M

Sorry


Title: Re: Stop discussing war and politics. You are feeding the fire.
Post by: jaysabi on October 06, 2014, 12:06:40 AM
If you wish governments and all the problems they bring, such as war, tyranny, famine, poverty and economic slavery to end, then all we must do is stop believing in their power.  Their power is an illusion.  It is only through your fear of their being that allows them to hold any power over the world.

I'm fairly certain the guns they wield are not an illusion. I appreciate the optimism in your posts that 'world peace is just around the corner if only we believed in it,' but the world is run by real people, wielding real power, backed by real weapons, and doing so for their own interests, and that's why we do not have world peace. Not because we're just not wishing hard enough.


Title: Re: Stop discussing war and politics. You are feeding the fire.
Post by: MichaelBliss on October 06, 2014, 12:12:52 AM
Looks like someone just watched "The Secret".  ;)

That logic becomes increasingly more cruel the further you take it. 

The victims of the tsunami in Indonesia had only themselves to blame, according to this logic and it's new age author, obviously they were "thinking tsunami like thoughts".


Title: Re: Stop discussing war and politics. You are feeding the fire.
Post by: mnmShadyBTC on October 06, 2014, 12:24:14 AM
If you wish governments and all the problems they bring, such as war, tyranny, famine, poverty and economic slavery to end, then all we must do is stop believing in their power.  Their power is an illusion.  It is only through your fear of their being that allows them to hold any power over the world.

I'm fairly certain the guns they wield are not an illusion. I appreciate the optimism in your posts that 'world peace is just around the corner if only we believed in it,' but the world is run by real people, wielding real power, backed by real weapons, and doing so for their own interests, and that's why we do not have world peace. Not because we're just not wishing hard enough.
Exactly. The government has enough control so that they can enforce their laws. Wars are won because governments have very "strong" guns and other weapons.

We are sadly far from world peace as it stands


Title: Re: Stop discussing war and politics. You are feeding the fire.
Post by: Bonam on October 06, 2014, 08:20:16 AM
You cannot vote in Local/General Elections? Your country hasn't a functional and free Judiciary system?
Obviously people must care about holding their representatives & Government accountable otherwise No one would be held responsible and accountable for anything.

The problem is, simply losing the next election isn't really being "held accountable". Yeah you'll no longer be in political office, but you've already made your fortune by then and are set for life. Individuals follow their own self-interest. If a politician is promised a lucrative lifelong career after their term ends in exchange for voting a certain way on a certain bill, or introducing certain language into a certain bill, they likely will. In the end, the only entity that is held accountable for everything is the taxpayer.


Title: Re: Stop discussing war and politics. You are feeding the fire.
Post by: samaricanin on October 06, 2014, 08:29:21 AM
This is not true. When events that are taking place throughout the world are discussed society is able to hold people accountable and can influence politicians/world leaders to not continue a war if such an action is appropiate

+1. You've a point. Democracy is all about people holding their representatives & Government accountable for their policies.
 8)

By this definition, we do not have democracy in US or Europe. No one seems to be responsible and accountable for anything.

Have only the illusion of democracy


Title: Re: Stop discussing war and politics. You are feeding the fire.
Post by: Grand_Voyageur on October 06, 2014, 09:03:45 AM
This is not true. When events that are taking place throughout the world are discussed society is able to hold people accountable and can influence politicians/world leaders to not continue a war if such an action is appropiate

+1. You've a point. Democracy is all about people holding their representatives & Government accountable for their policies.
 8)

By this definition, we do not have democracy in US or Europe. No one seems to be responsible and accountable for anything.

Have only the illusion of democracy

Then...Red pill or Blue pill (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_pill_and_blue_pill)?

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-avoot2jSrKY/UT1Hq2V5MbI/AAAAAAAAAFQ/3J1jV7xdHFA/s1600/MatrixBluePillRedPill.jpg


Title: Re: Stop discussing war and politics. You are feeding the fire.
Post by: samaricanin on October 06, 2014, 09:23:42 AM
This is not true. When events that are taking place throughout the world are discussed society is able to hold people accountable and can influence politicians/world leaders to not continue a war if such an action is appropiate

+1. You've a point. Democracy is all about people holding their representatives & Government accountable for their policies.
 8)

By this definition, we do not have democracy in US or Europe. No one seems to be responsible and accountable for anything.

Have only the illusion of democracy

Then...Red pill or Blue pill (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_pill_and_blue_pill)?

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-avoot2jSrKY/UT1Hq2V5MbI/AAAAAAAAAFQ/3J1jV7xdHFA/s1600/MatrixBluePillRedPill.jpg

It is obvious that I took the red


Title: Re: Stop discussing war and politics. You are feeding the fire.
Post by: Bitzkrieg on October 06, 2014, 12:16:44 PM
This is not true. When events that are taking place throughout the world are discussed society is able to hold people accountable and can influence politicians/world leaders to not continue a war if such an action is appropiate

There will be no war as long talks will continue.  :-\


Title: Re: Stop discussing war and politics. You are feeding the fire.
Post by: dank on October 06, 2014, 02:20:41 PM
If you wish governments and all the problems they bring, such as war, tyranny, famine, poverty and economic slavery to end, then all we must do is stop believing in their power.  Their power is an illusion.  It is only through your fear of their being that allows them to hold any power over the world.

I'm fairly certain the guns they wield are not an illusion. I appreciate the optimism in your posts that 'world peace is just around the corner if only we believed in it,' but the world is run by real people, wielding real power, backed by real weapons, and doing so for their own interests, and that's why we do not have world peace. Not because we're just not wishing hard enough.

That's not quite how it works.  The actual people in combat are merely being brainwashed by their fear of their leader's or their leader's lies of a hostile threat.  Fear in itself is an illusion we have been tricked to trap ourselves in.

Anyways, a wise woman I have talked to told me a story of a girl who was about to be raped.  She held absolutely no fear of the attacker and he could not get himself to do it.

The same is true for me, I am at the point of consciousness where I cannot be killed less I will it so, for anyone who tried would simply prove my reality of infinity correct and the energy of their fear would propel me to levitate off the ground.

Fearful people love fear and violence.  Nothing scares one who lives in the dark more than displaying absolutely no fear of them.

World peace is around the corner.  I cannot be stopped and neither can it.  You cannot kill love.


Title: Re: Stop discussing war and politics. You are feeding the fire.
Post by: jaysabi on October 06, 2014, 02:32:50 PM
If you wish governments and all the problems they bring, such as war, tyranny, famine, poverty and economic slavery to end, then all we must do is stop believing in their power.  Their power is an illusion.  It is only through your fear of their being that allows them to hold any power over the world.

I'm fairly certain the guns they wield are not an illusion. I appreciate the optimism in your posts that 'world peace is just around the corner if only we believed in it,' but the world is run by real people, wielding real power, backed by real weapons, and doing so for their own interests, and that's why we do not have world peace. Not because we're just not wishing hard enough.

That's not quite how it works.  The actual people in combat are merely being brainwashed by their fear of their leader's or their leader's lies of a hostile threat.  Fear in itself is an illusion we have been tricked to trap ourselves in.

Anyways, a wise woman I have talked to told me a story of a girl who was about to be raped.  She held absolutely no fear of the attacker and he could not get himself to do it.

The same is true for me, I am at the point of consciousness where I cannot be killed less I will it so, for anyone who tried would simply prove my reality of infinity correct and the energy of their fear would propel me to levitate off the ground.

Fearful people love fear and violence.  Nothing scares one who lives in the dark more than displaying absolutely no fear of them.

World peace is around the corner.  I cannot be stopped and neither can it.  You cannot kill love.

People have a lot of reasons for joining the military. Boiling them all down to one simple case of being brainwashed is ridiculous and lazy. I'm going to take your story about someone who can will their attacker not to harm them with a grain of salt- hell, all the grains of salt. I'm sorry, but you're not invincible. Entertaining, sure. Invincible, no.


Title: Re: Stop discussing war and politics. You are feeding the fire.
Post by: dank on October 06, 2014, 02:38:43 PM
Soldiers are not killing in the name of peace, they are killing in the veil of fear.

Time will tell.  I am illuminating into a light being.  How does one kill light?

Vod, if you want to try, you are welcome yourself.


Title: Re: Stop discussing war and politics. You are feeding the fire.
Post by: jaysabi on October 06, 2014, 03:09:53 PM
Soldiers are not killing in the name of peace, they are killing in the veil of fear.

Time will tell.  I am illuminating into a light being.  How does one kill light?

Vod, if you want to try, you are welcome yourself.

 ;D I don't believe in killing. But I also don't believe in deities or "light beings" either.


Title: Re: Stop discussing war and politics. You are feeding the fire.
Post by: dank on October 06, 2014, 03:15:32 PM
Soldiers are not killing in the name of peace, they are killing in the veil of fear.

Time will tell.  I am illuminating into a light being.  How does one kill light?

Vod, if you want to try, you are welcome yourself.

 ;D I don't believe in killing. But I also don't believe in deities or "light beings" either.

For one to disbelieve, they must first acknowledge the existence of what they disbelieve in.  For you can only have a negative if it's in reference to a positive.

All you see is light.


Title: Re: Stop discussing war and politics. You are feeding the fire.
Post by: jaysabi on October 06, 2014, 03:40:58 PM
Soldiers are not killing in the name of peace, they are killing in the veil of fear.

Time will tell.  I am illuminating into a light being.  How does one kill light?

Vod, if you want to try, you are welcome yourself.

 ;D I don't believe in killing. But I also don't believe in deities or "light beings" either.

For one to disbelieve, they must first acknowledge the existence of what they disbelieve in.  For you can only have a negative if it's in reference to a positive.

All you see is light.

This couldn't be more semantically or logically wrong. For one to disbelieve a concept, they must only acknowledge someone else's belief in it. For example presently, I know you're just spewing some hokey new age nonsense. In order for me to disbelieve all of it, which I do, I only need to acknowledge that you believe it. Your belief in it changes nothing for reality, which is where I currently reside. Feel free to stop by there sometime if you're not too busy being pure light. Good luck mate, I'm peacin' out.  8)


Title: Re: Stop discussing war and politics. You are feeding the fire.
Post by: BADecker on October 06, 2014, 04:36:56 PM
There is no need to discuss war or the vastly great, illusive, power of the government.

By speaking of the government and their doings, you are giving them power, you are manifesting their control over reality into existence.

Your thoughts create your reality.  The truth is, the government does not rule the world, you do.  We control everything about this world as individuals in a collective.

Stop focusing on what you perceive to be negative and it will stop manifesting in life.

The world is turning into a beautiful place.  Unless you believe the government can convince their armies to slaughter every child that stands on this earth, there is no reason to fear the future.  We are the future.

Humans forgot how to live as a child even as they age.  Let go of the past and live in the moment of now.  Each day is a new day.  What made us young as children was the light we each held as we entered this earth.

Regain that light by bettering your physical and mental self and others around you.

If you wish to end the horror you see in the world, all we must do is spread the light from ourselves to one another.  We do not need to fight.  All we need is love.  Love spreads endlessly.

This is true if you are going to sit around and do nothing about it. But for people who want to spread freedom across America and the world, search in DuckDuckGo and Youtube on "Bill Thornton common law" and "Karl Lentz common law." Then get your education. And then start using it. You can put illegal and unlawful government down.

http://www.myprivateaudio.com/Karl-Lentz.html = Angela Stark's Talkshoe.

http://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5duR4OvEHHxOSdEZhANETw = TrustInAllLaw snippets of Karl's audios.

http://www.broadmind.org/ = Karl's main page.

http://www.unkommonlaw.co.uk/ = Karl's United Kingdom page.

http://www.youtube.com/user/765736/videos?view=0&live_view=500&flow=grid&sort=da = Craig Lynch's snippets page.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HOkAHRzuiOA&list=PLHrkQxgz0mg6kUBciD-HIvTXByqjcIZ-D = Ten great Youtube videos, might be the best introduction to Karl.

http://www.talkshoe.com/talkshoe/web/talkCast.jsp?masterId=127469&cmd=tc = Karl's Talkshoe site.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iua56K4Mysk = Karl Lentz - The Brian Bonar Incident - YouTube.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdHLHWS4gPE = Lentz-Sense - don't be a More~On - YouTube.


Other Info

http://voidjudgments.com/ = The Secret is most judgments are Void on their face and not merely voidable.

http://educationcenter2000.com/Trinsey-v-Paglario.htm = Trinsey v. Pagliaro - Attorneys cannot "speak" in common law trials if the one who is bringing the suit orders it. Holding from Trinsey v. Pagliaro: "An attorney for the plaintiff cannot admit evidence into the court. He is either an attorney or a witness."

:)


Title: Re: Stop discussing war and politics. You are feeding the fire.
Post by: Balthazar on October 06, 2014, 04:51:38 PM
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Stop discussing war and politics.  You are feeding the fire.
I'm sorry but we can discuss whatever we want. It's called freedom of speech and expression.


Title: Re: Stop discussing war and politics. You are feeding the fire.
Post by: BADecker on October 06, 2014, 04:53:53 PM
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Stop discussing war and politics.  You are feeding the fire.
I'm sorry but we can discuss whatever we want. It's called freedom of speech and expression.
And the moderators of this forum allow us a lot of freedom.  :)


Title: Re: Stop discussing war and politics. You are feeding the fire.
Post by: freedomno1 on October 06, 2014, 05:45:45 PM
Then this whole section has no meaning
Actually I guess there is still the society parts without the politics.
Like a topic on watching Glee and the impact it has on people lol.

Lets spread the Glee and don't stop believing in that feeling.  
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZY2V3Rmy8s

I never thaught I'd find a bitcoiner to like Glee. That's the first song that comes to mind then I hear of the word Glee.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_1qFJSiz6M

Sorry

In a paradoxical sense that song also comes to mind as well
I just remember that Glee song and felt like it belonged in a Dank thread :P


Title: Re: Stop discussing war and politics. You are feeding the fire.
Post by: dank on October 06, 2014, 09:09:21 PM
Soldiers are not killing in the name of peace, they are killing in the veil of fear.

Time will tell.  I am illuminating into a light being.  How does one kill light?

Vod, if you want to try, you are welcome yourself.

 ;D I don't believe in killing. But I also don't believe in deities or "light beings" either.

For one to disbelieve, they must first acknowledge the existence of what they disbelieve in.  For you can only have a negative if it's in reference to a positive.

All you see is light.

This couldn't be more semantically or logically wrong. For one to disbelieve a concept, they must only acknowledge someone else's belief in it. For example presently, I know you're just spewing some hokey new age nonsense. In order for me to disbelieve all of it, which I do, I only need to acknowledge that you believe it. Your belief in it changes nothing for reality, which is where I currently reside. Feel free to stop by there sometime if you're not too busy being pure light. Good luck mate, I'm peacin' out.  8)

Beliefs manifest reality.  If someone else believes in something, it exists.  Everything exists, the universe is infinite.

Disbelief is simply fearing something, not making it non existent.  Non existence does not exist.


Title: Re: Stop discussing war and politics. You are feeding the fire.
Post by: My Name Was Taken on October 06, 2014, 09:41:04 PM
Beliefs manifest reality.  If someone else believes in something, it exists.  Everything exists, the universe is infinite.

Disbelief is simply fearing something, not making it non existent.  Non existence does not exist.

So suppose I believe you don't believe the things you say. That means you don't believe them.

For one to disbelieve, they must first acknowledge the existence of what they disbelieve in.  For you can only have a negative if it's in reference to a positive.

This works the opposite way too. You can only have a positive if it's in reference to a negative. That means all your positive thinking creates bad things in the world. Maybe your thoughts are just an exercise in evil!


Title: Re: Stop discussing war and politics. You are feeding the fire.
Post by: vokain on October 06, 2014, 09:41:44 PM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/25/LetItBe.jpg


Title: Re: Stop discussing war and politics. You are feeding the fire.
Post by: vokain on October 06, 2014, 09:43:20 PM
Beliefs manifest reality.  If someone else believes in something, it exists.  Everything exists, the universe is infinite.

Disbelief is simply fearing something, not making it non existent.  Non existence does not exist.

So suppose I believe you don't believe the things you say. That means you don't believe them.

For one to disbelieve, they must first acknowledge the existence of what they disbelieve in.  For you can only have a negative if it's in reference to a positive.

This works the opposite way too. You can only have a positive if it's in reference to a negative. That means all your positive thinking creates bad things in the world. Maybe your thoughts are just an exercise in evil!


allow me to pull a quote from Hesse's Demian:
Quote
"Can you really make someone else think what you want him to?" I asked him.
He informed me willingly, calmly and objectively, in his grown-up fashion.
"No," he said, "that's impossible. You see, no one has free will, even though the pastor implies that. The other fellow can't think what he wants to, nor can I make him think. But it is possible to observe someone carefully, and then you can often say pretty accurately what he's thinking or feeling, and then you can generally foresee what he'll do the next minute. It's quite simple, people just don't know it. Naturally it takes practice. For example, in the butterfly family there are certain night moths with a lot fewer females than males. The moths reproduce just as all animals do; the male fertilizes the female, which then lays eggs. Now, when you have a female of this kind of moth—this has often been tested by biologists—the male moths fly to that female at night, and they fly for hours to get there! Just imagine, hours of flying time! Over miles and miles all these males sense the only female in the vicinity! People try to explain it, but it's hard. It must be some kind of sense of smell or something like that, more or less the way good hunting hounds are able to locate an imperceptible trail and follow it. Understand? There are such things, nature is full of them, and no one can explain them. But now I say: if females occurred as frequently as males among those moths, they wouldn't have that subtle nose! They have it solely because they've trained themselves for it. When an animal or person focuses all his attention and all his willpower on a given objective, he achieves it. That's all there is to it. And it's just the same with what you asked about. Look at a person carefully long enough, and you'll know more about him than he himself does."

...

"But how does that willpower thing work?" I asked. "You say people don't have free will. But then you go on to say that all you need to do is concentrate your willpower on something and you can attain you goal. But that doesn't add up! If I'm not the master of my own will, then I can't focus it on any place I choose to."

He tapped me on the shoulder. He always did that when he was pleased with me.


"I'm glad you're asking that! he said with a smile. "People should always ask questions, they should always entertain doubts. But the matter is very simple. If, for example, a moth of that type wanted to focus its willpower on a star or some such thing, it wouldn't be able to. But it never tries to. It's only out after things that have meaning and value for it, things it needs and absolutely must have. And then it even accomplishes the unbelievable—it develops a magical sixth sense no other animal possesses! We human beings have greater latitude, of course, and more interests than an animal does. But we, too, are confined in a relatively small circle and can't go beyond it. I can fantasize about this and that, I can imagine I just must get to the North Pole, or something like that, but I can only accomplish it and will it strongly enough if the total wish is in my mind, when my being is really completely filled with it. The moment that's the case, the moment you attempt a task that something inside you orders you to do, you'll succeed. And you can harness your willpower like a trusty draft horse. For example, if I were now to try and make our pastor leave off wearing glasses, it wouldn't work. That's only a game. But when I decided firmly, back in the fall, to be moved out of my bench in the front of the room it all went well. Suddenly someone showed up whose name was ahead of mine in the alphabet and who had been ill up to then; and since someone had to yield his seat to him, I was naturally the one who did it, because my will was prepared to seize the opportunity at once."

"Yes, I said, "at the time it struck me as very odd, too. From the moment we got interested in each other, you moved closer and closer to me. But how was it that at first you didn't get to sit right next to me, but started off by sitting on the bench in front of me a few times, right? How was that?"
"It was like this: I myself wasn't clear about what I wanted, when I felt the urge to move away from my first seat. I only knew I wanted to sit farther back. It was my will to come to you, but I had not yet become conscious of it. At the same time your own will pulled along and helped me out. Only when I was sitting in front of you did it occur to me that my wish was only half-fulfilled—I noticed that my desire had really only been to sit next to you."
"But at that time no new boy entered the class."
"No, but that time I simply did what I wanted, and just sat down next to you. The boy with whom I changed places was merely surprised and let me have my way. And the pastor did notice once that a change had taken place—in general, when he has dealings with me, something nags at him secretly, because he knows my name is Demian and it  isn't right for me, with my name beginning with D, to be sitting back among the S's! But that doesn't reach his consciousness because my will is set against it and I prevent him time and again from being aware of it. Each time he notices that something is wrong, he looks at me and starts to ponder, the dear man. But I have a simple remedy. Each time, I stare really hard into his eyes. Almost no one can abide that. Everyone gets nervous. If you want to get something out of somebody, and he doesn't get nervous when you unexpectedly stare hard into his eyes, give up. You won't get anything out of him, never! But that's very rare. Actually i know only one person that it doesn't work on for me."


Title: Re: Stop discussing war and politics. You are feeding the fire.
Post by: dank on October 06, 2014, 11:46:59 PM
Beliefs manifest reality.  If someone else believes in something, it exists.  Everything exists, the universe is infinite.

Disbelief is simply fearing something, not making it non existent.  Non existence does not exist.

So suppose I believe you don't believe the things you say. That means you don't believe them.

For one to disbelieve, they must first acknowledge the existence of what they disbelieve in.  For you can only have a negative if it's in reference to a positive.

This works the opposite way too. You can only have a positive if it's in reference to a negative. That means all your positive thinking creates bad things in the world. Maybe your thoughts are just an exercise in evil!

You mustn't truly believe that, for I still hold my beliefs.

You don't need negativity, you can have infinite light, true egodeath.  Just because nothing is nothing doesn't mean everything is to.


Title: Re: Stop discussing war and politics. You are feeding the fire.
Post by: Bonam on October 07, 2014, 02:49:26 AM
Beliefs manifest reality.  If someone else believes in something, it exists.  Everything exists, the universe is infinite.

The current understanding of physics does not suggest an infinite universe. Rather, it is finite, bounded by the size it could have expanded to in ~13.7 billion years, and having a countable number of galaxies, stars, planets, atoms. 


Title: Re: Stop discussing war and politics. You are feeding the fire.
Post by: vokain on October 07, 2014, 03:01:47 AM
Beliefs manifest reality.  If someone else believes in something, it exists.  Everything exists, the universe is infinite.

The current understanding of physics does not suggest an infinite universe. Rather, it is finite, bounded by the size it could have expanded to in ~13.7 billion years, and having a countable number of galaxies, stars, planets, atoms.  

At least, physics in the material dimension...


Title: Re: Stop discussing war and politics. You are feeding the fire.
Post by: vokain on October 07, 2014, 03:08:12 AM
Also http://www.kurzweilai.net/is-our-universe-a-bubble-in-the-multiverse

there was another article I read not too long ago that posited that what lies beyond the edge of this observable (another counter against your posit) might be the outer boundaries of other multiverses

=======

and with that we don't even broach the metaphysical infinities of consciousness(es) ;)

http://sprott.physics.wisc.edu/pickover/pc/neuron-galaxy.jpg


Title: Re: Stop discussing war and politics. You are feeding the fire.
Post by: dank on October 07, 2014, 03:15:27 AM
Beliefs manifest reality.  If someone else believes in something, it exists.  Everything exists, the universe is infinite.

The current understanding of physics does not suggest an infinite universe. Rather, it is finite, bounded by the size it could have expanded to in ~13.7 billion years, and having a countable number of galaxies, stars, planets, atoms. 

The thing about matter, is 99.9% of it is hollow.  In recent observations, I've noticed the vast space between planets, atoms, galaxies.  It's an endless pattern that scales to the infinite measure of Phi.

So let's say we do live in a bubble.  What makes you think there isn't another bubble just as big trillions of light years away?

And let us remember that infinite dimensions may reside right where we stand.

We are constantly changing, life does not have a framerate.  For us to truly move constantly, it's mathematically certain that there are infinite dimensions, as we constantly fold through infinite in every instant.  


Title: Re: Stop discussing war and politics. You are feeding the fire.
Post by: dank on October 07, 2014, 03:16:12 AM
Also http://www.kurzweilai.net/is-our-universe-a-bubble-in-the-multiverse

there was another article I read not too long ago that posited that what lies beyond the edge of this observable (another counter against your posit) might be the outer boundaries of other multiverses

=======

and with that we don't even broach the metaphysical infinities of consciousness(es) ;)

http://sprott.physics.wisc.edu/pickover/pc/neuron-galaxy.jpg


Beat me to it. :)


Title: Re: Stop discussing war and politics. You are feeding the fire.
Post by: vokain on October 07, 2014, 03:29:21 AM
hey we're on the same page  ;D


Title: Re: Stop discussing war and politics. You are feeding the fire.
Post by: dank on October 07, 2014, 03:41:11 AM
 :)

And I dig your signature bro


Title: Re: Stop discussing war and politics. You are feeding the fire.
Post by: vokain on October 07, 2014, 03:50:37 AM
:)

And I dig your signature bro
thank you :) I dig what you're doing, man

What of my signature?

y'know, I tried to access your website (not the clearnet one), but I got a security error :/
friendly FYI: "Peer's certificate has an invalid signature. (Error code: sec_error_bad_signature)"


Title: Re: Stop discussing war and politics. You are feeding the fire.
Post by: dank on October 07, 2014, 04:02:49 AM
:)

And I dig your signature bro
What of my signature?

Other bro.  Unless you are he as I am he as he are we.

:)

And I dig your signature bro
thank you :) I dig what you're doing, man

What of my signature?

y'know, I tried to access your website (not the clearnet one), but I got a security error :/
friendly FYI: "Peer's certificate has an invalid signature. (Error code: sec_error_bad_signature)"

Thanks man, means more than you could imagine to hear that.


Title: Re: Stop discussing war and politics. You are feeding the fire.
Post by: vokain on October 07, 2014, 04:09:09 AM
Good, that's why I said it :)


Title: Re: Stop discussing war and politics. You are feeding the fire.
Post by: vokain on October 07, 2014, 04:14:40 AM
Good, that's why I said it :)
Could you visit GEE.gov.ge (deep site)?

I tried but the server is down or something.


Title: Re: Stop discussing war and politics. You are feeding the fire.
Post by: vokain on October 07, 2014, 04:26:57 AM
Good, that's why I said it :)
Could you visit GEE.gov.ge (deep site)?

I tried but the server is down or something.
Is it still down?

it is from my end


Title: Re: Stop discussing war and politics. You are feeding the fire.
Post by: vokain on October 07, 2014, 04:36:29 AM
Good, that's why I said it :)
Could you visit GEE.gov.ge (deep site)?

I tried but the server is down or something.
Is it still down?

it is from my end
Is that why you forgot to capitalize "it?"

Well, if only for the same reason I left off a period as well.


Title: Re: Stop discussing war and politics. You are feeding the fire.
Post by: vokain on October 07, 2014, 04:42:30 AM
Good, that's why I said it :)
Could you visit GEE.gov.ge (deep site)?

I tried but the server is down or something.
Is it still down?

it is from my end
Is that why you forgot to capitalize "it?"

Well, if only for the same reason I left off a period as well.
How many formal decree has our current emperor issued?

Sounds like 1 decree.


Title: Re: Stop discussing war and politics. You are feeding the fire.
Post by: vokain on October 07, 2014, 04:48:20 AM
Good, that's why I said it :)
Could you visit GEE.gov.ge (deep site)?

I tried but the server is down or something.
Is it still down?

it is from my end
Is that why you forgot to capitalize "it?"

Well, if only for the same reason I left off a period as well.
How many formal decree has our current emperor issued?

Sounds like 1 decree.
Your review?
Not yet.


Title: Re: Stop discussing war and politics. You are feeding the fire.
Post by: vokain on October 07, 2014, 05:08:14 AM
I remain skeptical.


Title: Re: Stop discussing war and politics. You are feeding the fire.
Post by: vokain on October 07, 2014, 05:11:44 AM
RTR1?


Title: Re: Stop discussing war and politics. You are feeding the fire.
Post by: vokain on October 07, 2014, 05:19:57 AM
past and future relativity?
https://github.com/MaciejCzyzewski/retter#series


Title: Re: Stop discussing war and politics. You are feeding the fire.
Post by: vokain on October 07, 2014, 05:40:10 AM
past and future relativity?
https://github.com/MaciejCzyzewski/retter#series
Government of Great Empire must not want to undermine that developer's efforts.
What if they do?


Title: Re: Stop discussing war and politics. You are feeding the fire.
Post by: MichaelBliss on October 07, 2014, 03:34:33 PM
For anyone interested, this is the DVD where these nutty ideas came from:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ioKU6Jue_k

In the end, it's all a bunch of corporate bullshit designed to maintain the status quo.



Title: Re: Stop discussing war and politics. You are feeding the fire.
Post by: BADecker on October 07, 2014, 05:48:07 PM
For anyone interested, this is the DVD where these nutty ideas came from:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ioKU6Jue_k

In the end, it's all a bunch of corporate bullshit designed to maintain the status quo.



This!    :)


Title: Re: Stop discussing war and politics. You are feeding the fire.
Post by: cutesakura on October 07, 2014, 06:45:23 PM
Whatever the reason the war will only make the lives more, children, women and the innocent people are victims, but it is also a war so requires substantial funds, either from human resources, as well as tools of war .. .. hopefully we can solve the problem without having to be war ...  8)


Title: Re: Stop discussing war and politics. You are feeding the fire.
Post by: BADecker on October 07, 2014, 06:52:05 PM
Whatever the reason the war will only make the lives more, children, women and the innocent people are victims, but it is also a war so requires substantial funds, either from human resources, as well as tools of war .. .. hopefully we can solve the problem without having to be war ...  8)

You can stop war. Here's how, in the link. But if you are not from the nations, the U.S., Canada or the U.K., it will be more difficult to use the info in the link.

http://1215.org/indexe.html

:)


Title: Re: Stop discussing war and politics. You are feeding the fire.
Post by: BADecker on October 07, 2014, 07:20:31 PM

The entropy of the words in the frame does not match the entropy of the rest of the pic.  :)


Title: Re: Stop discussing war and politics. You are feeding the fire.
Post by: BADecker on October 07, 2014, 08:21:10 PM
In truth, you (id est, yourself) dwell within a place still calmed.

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The fear of the Lord—that is wisdom, and to shun evil is understanding.
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The fear of the LORD is pure, enduring forever.
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The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom; all who follow his precepts have good understanding.
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The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge, but fools despise wisdom and discipline.
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The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom, and knowledge of the Holy One is understanding.
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The fear of the LORD adds length to life, but the years of the wicked are cut short.
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The fear of the LORD is a fountain of life, turning a man from the snares of death.
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The fear of the LORD teaches a man wisdom, and humility comes before honor.
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The fear of the LORD leads to life: Then one rests content, untouched by trouble.
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Humility and the fear of the LORD bring wealth and honor and life.
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He (God) will be the sure foundation for your times, a rich store of salvation and wisdom and knowledge; the fear of the LORD is the key to this treasure.

:)


Title: Re: Stop discussing war and politics. You are feeding the fire.
Post by: kuusj98 on October 07, 2014, 08:50:22 PM
Listen to the song Iron Sky on Youtube, has some pretty interesting peices of text in it.
Worth listening to.


Title: Re: Stop discussing war and politics. You are feeding the fire.
Post by: vokain on October 07, 2014, 10:31:28 PM
Listen to the song Iron Sky on Youtube, has some pretty interesting peices of text in it.
Worth listening to.
by Paolo Nutini? It's been on rotation the past week or two—excellent, excellent song


Title: Re: Stop discussing war and politics. You are feeding the fire.
Post by: dank on October 08, 2014, 12:14:35 AM
In truth, you (id est, yourself) dwell within a place still calmed.

Quote
The fear of the Lord—that is wisdom, and to shun evil is understanding.
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The fear of the LORD is pure, enduring forever.
Quote
The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom; all who follow his precepts have good understanding.
Quote
The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge, but fools despise wisdom and discipline.
Quote
The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom, and knowledge of the Holy One is understanding.
Quote
The fear of the LORD adds length to life, but the years of the wicked are cut short.
Quote
The fear of the LORD is a fountain of life, turning a man from the snares of death.
Quote
The fear of the LORD teaches a man wisdom, and humility comes before honor.
Quote
The fear of the LORD leads to life: Then one rests content, untouched by trouble.
Quote
Humility and the fear of the LORD bring wealth and honor and life.
Quote
He (God) will be the sure foundation for your times, a rich store of salvation and wisdom and knowledge; the fear of the LORD is the key to this treasure.

:)

This is satanic horse radish.

To fear the lord is to live in fear.  To fear the lord is to fear yourself.

The lord is light and love.  Fear is the negative energy of gravity and pain.  Fear is satan, and it's only an illusion.


Title: Re: Stop discussing war and politics. You are feeding the fire.
Post by: beetcoin on October 08, 2014, 01:04:46 AM
such a dumb topic. yeah, we should stop talking about the bad guys, because ignorance is bliss? the best deterrent for the bad guys is public knowledge.


Title: Re: Stop discussing war and politics. You are feeding the fire.
Post by: BADecker on October 08, 2014, 02:49:18 AM

The entropy of the words in the frame does not match the entropy of the rest of the pic.  :)
In truth, you (id est, yourself) dwell within a place still calmed.

Quote
The fear of the Lord—that is wisdom, and to shun evil is understanding.
Quote
The fear of the LORD is pure, enduring forever.
Quote
The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom; all who follow his precepts have good understanding.
Quote
The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge, but fools despise wisdom and discipline.
Quote
The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom, and knowledge of the Holy One is understanding.
Quote
The fear of the LORD adds length to life, but the years of the wicked are cut short.
Quote
The fear of the LORD is a fountain of life, turning a man from the snares of death.
Quote
The fear of the LORD teaches a man wisdom, and humility comes before honor.
Quote
The fear of the LORD leads to life: Then one rests content, untouched by trouble.
Quote
Humility and the fear of the LORD bring wealth and honor and life.
Quote
He (God) will be the sure foundation for your times, a rich store of salvation and wisdom and knowledge; the fear of the LORD is the key to this treasure.

:)

This is satanic horse radish.

To fear the lord is to live in fear.  To fear the lord is to fear yourself.

The lord is light and love.  Fear is the negative energy of gravity and pain.  Fear is satan, and it's only an illusion.
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Perfect love drives out fear.

Too bad nobody has perfect love. This is why fear is wisdom.

:)


Title: Re: Stop discussing war and politics. You are feeding the fire.
Post by: vokain on October 08, 2014, 02:58:27 AM
I might say that the love of the Lord lends way towards living without needing to fear any longer


Title: Re: Stop discussing war and politics. You are feeding the fire.
Post by: bl4kjaguar on October 08, 2014, 03:49:36 AM
Stop focusing on what you perceive to be negative and it will stop manifesting in life.

Besides the law of attraction, there is also the law of action.

How will you avoid taxation without a focus towards avoiding taxation?


Title: Re: Stop discussing war and politics. You are feeding the fire.
Post by: dank on October 08, 2014, 03:57:09 AM
such a dumb topic. yeah, we should stop talking about the bad guys, because ignorance is bliss? the best deterrent for the bad guys is public knowledge.

No, because that is exactly what the bad guys want you to do, perpetuate their false illusion of fear onto you and so forth.

The best aide to put out a fire is water.  Not to scream FIRE!

If you truly care about deterring the power through knowledge, you'd work to help people learn about the infinite being of love.

If we all woke up one day and gave absolutely no mind to the imaginary system of society, government and money, we would be truly free.  The world would function a lot better without parasitic entities leaching off the energy of humans.


Badecker, to say nobody has perfect love is a fallacy.  Love is light, positivity, truth, all.  We all hold love, as love is the universe, which we are.  The universe is a perfect balance of energies by it's nature, and that's what nature is, an equilibrium.

Wisdom brings peace.  Fear does not.


Title: Re: Stop discussing war and politics. You are feeding the fire.
Post by: My Name Was Taken on October 08, 2014, 03:48:10 PM
Not discussing war isn't going to magically make war stop. Discussing it is the only hope you have to stop it. War begets war, so you cannot fight your way to peace. Discussing the wrongs of war is the only hope to bringing enlightenment about its evils. You say you want peace, but then you seek to block the only path to it.


Title: Re: Stop discussing war and politics. You are feeding the fire.
Post by: dank on October 08, 2014, 05:03:36 PM
Not discussing war isn't going to magically make war stop. Discussing it is the only hope you have to stop it. War begets war, so you cannot fight your way to peace. Discussing the wrongs of war is the only hope to bringing enlightenment about its evils. You say you want peace, but then you seek to block the only path to it.

How are you discussing war?  The energy you emit is very different if you're discussing philosophy not specifically about any one war but the idea of war in itself, than if you are discussing past and future events of terror, intentionally or not, spreading fear into others that they are unsafe or out of control over their fate.

We should stop thriving on the negatives, they bring more negatives.  Look at the bright side and if you can't see it through war, perhaps try looking elsewhere.

I personally feel cosmic warfare is a much more interesting battle to tune yourself into.  A constant battle of energies unfolds within and around you each and every moment.

Physical warfare is a result of our cosmic warfare.  If we realign our cosmos with love, war would naturally digress and wither away.

One thing is for sure, you're not going to end war through violence.


Title: Re: Stop discussing war and politics. You are feeding the fire.
Post by: My Name Was Taken on October 08, 2014, 06:35:12 PM
Not discussing war isn't going to magically make war stop. Discussing it is the only hope you have to stop it. War begets war, so you cannot fight your way to peace. Discussing the wrongs of war is the only hope to bringing enlightenment about its evils. You say you want peace, but then you seek to block the only path to it.

How are you discussing war?  The energy you emit is very different if you're discussing philosophy not specifically about any one war but the idea of war in itself, than if you are discussing past and future events of terror, intentionally or not, spreading fear into others that they are unsafe or out of control over their fate.

We should stop thriving on the negatives, they bring more negatives.  Look at the bright side and if you can't see it through war, perhaps try looking elsewhere.

I personally feel cosmic warfare is a much more interesting battle to tune yourself into.  A constant battle of energies unfolds within and around you each and every moment.

Physical warfare is a result of our cosmic warfare.  If we realign our cosmos with love, war would naturally digress and wither away.

One thing is for sure, you're not going to end war through violence.

You cannot discuss the philosophy of war or war as a concept without using specific examples, otherwise you have no reference point. Just as the blind have no reference point or understanding of color; this doesn't stop color from existing. The world is colorful, whether or not the blind have a reference point for color as a concept. So it is with war, it exists whether or not you talk about it. But talking about war leads to understanding of its evils, and understanding of its evils leads to less war. You cannot understand the immorality of war if you speak of it only philosophically. Understanding its evil is rooted in empathy, and empathy comes from knowing who its victims are.


Title: Re: Stop discussing war and politics. You are feeding the fire.
Post by: dank on October 08, 2014, 08:21:32 PM
You don't need examples from this reality to create a meaningful analogy.

I believe most humans would agree war is not a good thing.  It doesn't matter if it's team obama or not, killing other humans is core action of war that makes it something that humans dislike, or fear.

Even if you have no fear of the government whatsoever, you're pushing that reality onto others.  I can tell you for sure a greater amount of people fear our future than not, and it is because their life experiences and the experiences of today give them reason to.  Our society does not need more uncertainty, fear would lead us to utter chaos.  Fear allows humans to be controlled, as they then react to the energy of what they fear.

Speaking of a negative future scenario that isn't happening at this present moment only manifests it into reality further, as you still connect to the negativity of that reality.

Likewise, speak of a positive future of peace and it will manifest accordingly.

This is a pretty important step to actually moving past a primitive world of wars.   So long as the inhabitant's energy remains in a state of fear, the actions of others will remain in correspondence.

The only way to find a world of positivity is if we find positivity within ourselves.  Our personal influence over the world is much greater than you imagined - your actions flow through the entire world.

Peace comes from understanding.  Understanding our spiritual roots that have been stripped from us and covered by half truths is what humanity needs at this time.

The machine minded ego (negativity, matter) is rampant and the only way to balance that is to increase the prevalence of soul, love (positivity, light).  Fighting the machine only creates a machine fighting itself.  Transcending beyond the machine leaves it out of the picture with you free from it's grasp.

As long as you acknowledge the power of something, it will hold that power.  Find the power in yourself and you'll see that it was you who gave them that power all along.

This takes unity.  This takes you.


Title: Re: Stop discussing war and politics. You are feeding the fire.
Post by: BADecker on October 08, 2014, 10:52:33 PM
such a dumb topic. yeah, we should stop talking about the bad guys, because ignorance is bliss? the best deterrent for the bad guys is public knowledge.

No, because that is exactly what the bad guys want you to do, perpetuate their false illusion of fear onto you and so forth.

The best aide to put out a fire is water.  Not to scream FIRE!

If you truly care about deterring the power through knowledge, you'd work to help people learn about the infinite being of love.

If we all woke up one day and gave absolutely no mind to the imaginary system of society, government and money, we would be truly free.  The world would function a lot better without parasitic entities leaching off the energy of humans.


Badecker, to say nobody has perfect love is a fallacy.  Love is light, positivity, truth, all.  We all hold love, as love is the universe, which we are.  The universe is a perfect balance of energies by it's nature, and that's what nature is, an equilibrium.

Wisdom brings peace.  Fear does not.

And the biggest bad guy is the devil, Satan, who doesn't even want you to know that he exists, so that it is easier for him to pull the strings behind the scenes.

:)

dank, what are you so afraid of that you want us to stop talking war and politics? Me thinks you are an arm of the devil trying to pull the wool over our eyes.


Title: Re: Stop discussing war and politics. You are feeding the fire.
Post by: beetcoin on October 08, 2014, 11:58:01 PM
is it just me or does it seem like dank is trying to start his own cult, but there aren't enough wackos who will buy his bullshit? you should start your own church and call it "The Church of Tinfoil Hatology"


Title: Re: Stop discussing war and politics. You are feeding the fire.
Post by: dank on October 09, 2014, 12:31:39 AM
Satan is not a person, satan is an energy.  Negativity.

Negativity is a manifestation of consciousness, positivity.  E=MC^2 demonstrates this.  Energy is exponentially denser and more powerful than matter.

All matter is created by consciousness.  A couple examples that demonstrate this are motion and dreams.  Motion is caused by the physical influence pf surrounding energies.  Motion is clearly present on this planet, but for motion to exist, we must have started moving.  For motion to begin with no source of energy to first exert motion is physically impossible.  If you believe everything was created from nothing, as the big bang proposes, then it would take nothing short of a miracle, consciousness.  Let's say the universe has been in constant motion for all eternity and wasn't spawned from one instance, then this requires an infinite universe, which by it's nature, is the same as god, god is infinite.

Add consciousness to the equation.  Unless you believe humans are robotic reactionary magnets bouncing through space with no intellect or freewill, humans require a consciousness to hold intelligence and give freewill.  But this is not exclusive to humans, thinking so is quite egocentric.  Humans came from earth, so in order for humans to have consciousness, earth must hold the same consciousness, just as the animals and plants do as well.  Science reinforces this and that plants are indeed aware of their surroundings.

So if humans are intelligent beings, earth is a conscious host cell that we inhabit.  And if earth is a conscious host cell, then the star dust it is composed of must also be conscious.

Then remember that we dream.  We literally manifest worlds with our mind each night.  You can touch, feel, taste and do in dreams just as you can in life.  What makes them any different?  Dreams further prove humans are conscious beings and not willless flesh robots pinballing through a game of fate endlessly.

Consciousness is the creator, the source energy, and that is what you truly are.  Matter is a lower dimensional occurrences consciousness has created in order to experience itself from a foreign perspective of negativity and division, rather than positivity and unity.  Negativity is a necessary part of experiencing this world of 3D space and death, but it is not a necessary trait of existence, while positivity is, as it is endless.  Negativity cannot possibly result in an energy of a higher density or power.  Matter is incapable of replicating an energy of a higher dimension.

Negativity is the creation of love, consciousness.  Satan is merely a deep illusion god has created to perceive self from a different perspective, for if negativity never existed, we'd always be a singular point of infinite love.

TL;DR: satan does not pull any strings.  Satan reacts in fear to the energies consciousness manifests.

And yeah, if you believe I'm the devil for standing up against the government and seeking to hold a music festival to bring world peace, then consider what you see in me is reflection of your perception.  If you see me as god, wonderful, you are too.  See me as the devil, that's your fate.

I guess it boils down to your morality stance regarding the following:  which is more demonic?  A 20 year old tripping acid and playing guitar at a large music festival with the goal of creating an infinitely powerful feedback loop of love.  Or, a society controlled by hierarchical oligarchs of tyrants and false religions that kill in the name of peace.

Put your faith in the vatican and their lavishly misplaced multi trillion dollar networth and the governments with armies of millions and enough nukes to destroy the planet 40 times.

Or,

Put your faith in a 20 year old named dank who chose homelessness over the option of contributing to a machine that slaughters millions endlessly after awakening through extensive exploration of the astral realm through psychedelics.  A man who plays guitar and sings from the soul in hopes that others will tune to his message and that earth will find peace.

The choice is yours and yours only.


Title: Re: Stop discussing war and politics. You are feeding the fire.
Post by: dank on October 09, 2014, 12:48:49 AM
is it just me or does it seem like dank is trying to start his own cult, but there aren't enough wackos who will buy his bullshit? you should start your own church and call it "The Church of Tinfoil Hatology"

I am an anarchist.  I do not believe in any structure other than existence itself.  The last thing I want is to be worshiped.  I want you to worship yourself, your soul of light and love, you are perfect.

Don't let surrounding thoughts and energies of doubt convince you otherwise.

If you want to see a good example of a cult, I can give you a few.  Government.  Religion.  Bitcoin scamrings and shills.


Title: Re: Stop discussing war and politics. You are feeding the fire.
Post by: Vod on October 09, 2014, 12:51:02 AM
Shouldn't have been high through high school physics Sean.  None of what you post makes any sense.   :-\


Title: Re: Stop discussing war and politics. You are feeding the fire.
Post by: dank on October 09, 2014, 12:52:45 AM
Shouldn't have been high through high school physics Sean.  None of what you post makes any sense.   :-\

Saying something doesn't make sense doesn't mean it doesn't make sense, it means you don't understand it.


Title: Re: Stop discussing war and politics. You are feeding the fire.
Post by: Vod on October 09, 2014, 01:01:53 AM
Shouldn't have been high through high school physics Sean.  None of what you post makes any sense.   :-\

Saying something doesn't make sense doesn't mean it doesn't make sense, it means you don't understand it.

True that.  I'd challenge you to find a person anywhere in the world who understands your insane rants. 


Title: Re: Stop discussing war and politics. You are feeding the fire.
Post by: dank on October 09, 2014, 03:18:31 AM
Shouldn't have been high through high school physics Sean.  None of what you post makes any sense.   :-\

Saying something doesn't make sense doesn't mean it doesn't make sense, it means you don't understand it.

True that.  I'd challenge you to find a person anywhere in the world who understands your insane rants. 

I bet you Einstein was told similar words.

If you feel something does not make sense, state what you fail to understand and why, else you will never understand it.


Title: Re: Stop discussing war and politics. You are feeding the fire.
Post by: Vod on October 09, 2014, 03:25:40 AM
Shouldn't have been high through high school physics Sean.  None of what you post makes any sense.   :-\

Saying something doesn't make sense doesn't mean it doesn't make sense, it means you don't understand it.

True that.  I'd challenge you to find a person anywhere in the world who understands your insane rants. 

I bet you Einstein was told similar words.

If you feel something does not make sense, state what you fail to understand and why, else you will never understand it.

Einstein was respected.  You are not.  Get the picture?   :-\


Title: Re: Stop discussing war and politics. You are feeding the fire.
Post by: Buffer Overflow on October 09, 2014, 06:50:58 AM
One thing is for sure, you're not going to end war through violence.
Burying your head in the sand won't end wars either.


Title: Re: Stop discussing war and politics. You are feeding the fire.
Post by: BADecker on October 09, 2014, 09:27:34 AM
dank must be a pretty amazing guy. I don't think I could juggle typing entries into a forum thread on my laptop, while balancing on the back of my motorcycle.

 :D


Title: Re: Stop discussing war and politics. You are feeding the fire.
Post by: beetcoin on October 09, 2014, 09:45:30 AM
is it just me or does it seem like dank is trying to start his own cult, but there aren't enough wackos who will buy his bullshit? you should start your own church and call it "The Church of Tinfoil Hatology"

I am an anarchist.  I do not believe in any structure other than existence itself.  The last thing I want is to be worshiped.  I want you to worship yourself, your soul of light and love, you are perfect.

Don't let surrounding thoughts and energies of doubt convince you otherwise.

If you want to see a good example of a cult, I can give you a few.  Government.  Religion.  Bitcoin scamrings and shills.

that's such doublespeak.. didn't you claim yourself to be the second coming of jesus?


Title: Re: Stop discussing war and politics. You are feeding the fire.
Post by: msc_de on October 09, 2014, 10:03:44 AM
stop eating since you visit WC  so often each day

NO LOVE NO HATRED


Title: Re: Stop discussing war and politics. You are feeding the fire.
Post by: Buffer Overflow on October 09, 2014, 10:52:12 AM
This thread is such a fail. Created by Dank in all his eternal wisdom to stop everyone talking about war and politics.

The end result is we are now all talking about war and politics more than if he hadn't started this thread.

Fail. :D


Title: Re: Stop discussing war and politics. You are feeding the fire.
Post by: dank on October 09, 2014, 12:43:23 PM
Shouldn't have been high through high school physics Sean.  None of what you post makes any sense.   :-\

Saying something doesn't make sense doesn't mean it doesn't make sense, it means you don't understand it.

True that.  I'd challenge you to find a person anywhere in the world who understands your insane rants. 

I bet you Einstein was told similar words.

If you feel something does not make sense, state what you fail to understand and why, else you will never understand it.

Einstein was respected.  You are not.  Get the picture?   :-\

Again, that's your false delusion, not mine.  I'm sure there's quite a bit more people who lack respect for you, than your greedy scamring and those they deceive with fear.

And you know why vod?  It's hard to respect someone that doesn't respect their self.  You can only be loved as much as you love yourself.

We each hold infinite love inside of us, within your soul, but we are unable to access all of it due to the foods we eat and toxic environments we expose ourselves to everyday.  Through meditation and a healthy lifestyle, you can raise your vibration by deepening the attachment of your pineal gland to the endless river flowing from the depths of the universe and into each one of us.


Title: Re: Stop discussing war and politics. You are feeding the fire.
Post by: dank on October 09, 2014, 12:47:34 PM
is it just me or does it seem like dank is trying to start his own cult, but there aren't enough wackos who will buy his bullshit? you should start your own church and call it "The Church of Tinfoil Hatology"

I am an anarchist.  I do not believe in any structure other than existence itself.  The last thing I want is to be worshiped.  I want you to worship yourself, your soul of light and love, you are perfect.

Don't let surrounding thoughts and energies of doubt convince you otherwise.

If you want to see a good example of a cult, I can give you a few.  Government.  Religion.  Bitcoin scamrings and shills.

that's such doublespeak.. didn't you claim yourself to be the second coming of jesus?

Calling something a name without explaining why holds little value.  What is doublespeak and why?

This thread is such a fail. Created by Dank in all his eternal wisdom to stop everyone talking about war and politics.

The end result is we are now all talking about war and politics more than if he hadn't started this thread.

Fail. :D

No, it is not a fail.  I voiced my word and over a hundred people heard it.  That is powerful, as they each have the will to further disperse it.

The only fail thing about it is the shills who post meaningless jargon in order to derail it from the topic at hand.


Title: Re: Stop discussing war and politics. You are feeding the fire.
Post by: msc_de on October 09, 2014, 01:47:51 PM
 "give to Caesar what belongs to Caesar, and give to God what belongs to God."


Title: Re: Stop discussing war and politics. You are feeding the fire.
Post by: Buffer Overflow on October 09, 2014, 02:41:21 PM
This thread is such a fail. Created by Dank in all his eternal wisdom to stop everyone talking about war and politics.

The end result is we are now all talking about war and politics more than if he hadn't started this thread.

Fail. :D
No, it is not a fail.  I voiced my word and over a hundred people heard it.  That is powerful, as they each have the will to further disperse it.

The only fail thing about it is the shills who post meaningless jargon in order to derail it from the topic at hand.
Oh dear. So blindly consumed with your greedy thirst for attention, you can't even see your own logical fallacy.
The very action of people dispersing the notion they shouldn't discuss war or politics, does the exact opposite of it's intended purpose.

I find it amusing that anybody that disagrees with your opinions is automatically labelled a shill. The very thought that *gasp* you might be wrong about something, is completely incomprehensible to your brain.


Title: Re: Stop discussing war and politics. You are feeding the fire.
Post by: My Name Was Taken on October 09, 2014, 03:47:59 PM
Let's break this nonsense down into its parts:

Negativity is a manifestation of consciousness, positivity. E=MC^2 demonstrates this.  Energy is exponentially denser and more powerful than matter.

Yes, negativity is a manifestation of consciousness, as is positivity. The universe has no subjective state. The universe is, and we assign values to it. E=MC^2 does not demonstrate what you say. That's like saying 'everything negative comes from my brain, and the Pythagorean Theorem proves this.' Well, no, it doesn't.


All matter is created by consciousness.  

No, matter predated consciousness.

A couple examples that demonstrate this are motion and dreams.

Motion is the application of energy, and dreams are not tangible. Neither one of them is matter. Neither one of them are examples of how matter is created by consciousness.


For motion to begin with no source of energy to first exert motion is physically impossible.  

This is not true. All matter/energy that will ever exist was seeded by the Big Bang. Therefore, all motion was made possible from the energy released during the Big Bang.

If you believe everything was created from nothing, as the big bang proposes, then it would take nothing short of a miracle, consciousness.  

Call it a "miracle" or whatever synonym you want. One thing it would be incorrect to call it is "consciousness."

Let's say the universe has been in constant motion for all eternity and wasn't spawned from one instance

Let's not say this, because it's not accurate. The universe was spawned in one instance and has been in motion for as long as it has existed. That's an accurate thing you could say.

Add consciousness to the equation.  Unless you believe humans are robotic reactionary magnets bouncing through space with no intellect or freewill, humans require a consciousness to hold intelligence and give freewill.  But this is not exclusive to humans, thinking so is quite egocentric.  

All completely irrelevant to the Big Bang and the universe. You know what else is irrelevant to? Adding milk. Instead of adding consciousness to the equation, let's add milk. It makes just as much sense.

Humans came from earth, so in order for humans to have consciousness, earth must hold the same consciousness, just as the animals and plants do as well.

This is bullshit. Earth doesn't have consciousness. Earth is an inanimate object. Animals have consciousness because they have a brain. Except for limited instances in certain species, animals have a consciousness without self-awareness. Plants do not have a consciousness or self-awareness. Maybe we should try adding milk?

Science reinforces this and that plants are indeed aware of their surroundings.

This is something you just made up. Science is very pissed you're defaming it. I hear it's thinking about suing you for slander. This is something you should be worried about, because unlike the rest of us, you believe that inanimate objects have consciousness, and therefore, the reality that science might actually sue you for slander should be a very real possibility.

So if humans are intelligent beings, earth is a conscious host cell that we inhabit.  

False conclusion based on nonexistent equivalency. Why don't we instead say "If humans have fingers, pushups like the color purple." The conclusion is just as valid, and just as unconnected to the premise.

And if earth is a conscious host cell, then the star dust it is composed of must also be conscious.

Already established it's not, but why not add in another unrelated conclusion. So now we have, "If humans have fingers, pushups like the color purple. If pushups like the color purple, then the colors red and blue, which make purple, must also have fingers."

Dreams further prove humans are conscious beings and not willless flesh robots pinballing through a game of fate endlessly.

This was never in question. No one was maintaining this. You've successfully concluded something nobody was arguing against.

Matter is a lower dimensional occurrences consciousness has created in order to experience itself from a foreign perspective of negativity and division, rather than positivity and unity.  

Matter exists outside consciousness. It always has. It always will. The rest of this sentence is a string of words that when put in their current order have no meaning. Except to milk. Milk likes that sentence very much.

Negativity is a necessary part of experiencing this world of 3D space and death, but it is not a necessary trait of existence, while positivity is, as it is endless.  Negativity cannot possibly result in an energy of a higher density or power.  Matter is incapable of replicating an energy of a higher dimension.

Milk likes this too, as it's all devoid of meaning. This sentence doesn't mean anything. It's kinda like saying Milkity milk milk milky milk. Of course, milk loves that sentence, but it has no meaning. Mmmmm, milk.

Negativity is the creation of love, consciousness.  Satan is merely a deep illusion god has created to perceive self from a different perspective, for if negativity never existed, we'd always be a singular point of infinite love.

Even though this statement is coherent, it's self-contradictory to itself. "If negativity never existed, we'd always be a singular point of infinite love."  -You.  Then, "Negativity is the creation of love." -Also, you. So according to you, only love would exist without negativity, but love comes from negativity, so we have to stop being negative so we can have more love, but we have to be negative in order to create love.

Do you see the logical inconsistencies with this single statement? It's a microcosm of all your posts.

TL;DR: Everything you said is milk.

This response has been sponsored by milk.



Title: Re: Stop discussing war and politics. You are feeding the fire.
Post by: Buffer Overflow on October 09, 2014, 04:16:02 PM
If you believe everything was created from nothing, as the big bang proposes, then it would take nothing short of a miracle, consciousness.
But the big bang theory doesn't propose everything came from nothing.

I've told you this before. Naturally, in true Dank style, you only believe what suits you and ignore everything else.


Title: Re: Stop discussing war and politics. You are feeding the fire.
Post by: Gridcoiner on October 09, 2014, 04:40:35 PM
OP you provide some very nice thoughts - do you meditate?
I see many things like you, but i think i am not so optimistic in some of them. You say that those institutions want us to fear them by seeding images of fear but right now i see more and more people getting ANGRY. They want to step up but are still kind of lethargic. Maybe, the truth is between those many opinions. Maybe, there isn't anybody that manipulates us as stated. But maybe, there is someone with intentions that we still don't know. I think, the truth is very versatile. People can choose what they concentrate on and if we don't choose to concentrate on a better world, then we simply will not have even an imagination of how a better world will look like. I like many thoughts from youtube videos of "Joe Dispenza" who says that the simple and repetitive imagination of an alternative world or state of mind creates new connections in the brain that will just act as if they were caused by a "real environment". People should concentrate on the better stuff but don't forget our environment and boundaries in order to be able to actually change something. Bitcoin is a good point in order to meet people who are ready for change although i am pretty sure that the future just begins with new stuff like Gridcoin where you support progress of humanity. I also hope that the main idea of bitcoin will find its place in democracy (e.g. by using blockchain). Sry for my bad english. Peace to all!


Title: Re: Stop discussing war and politics. You are feeding the fire.
Post by: vokain on October 09, 2014, 05:37:31 PM
The following seems applicable now:

Since it could not, prior limakasidian entropism, be conclusively demonstrated that anything existed beyond one's own mind, scientific evidence was accepted by faith and, therefore, was not proof.

However, as revealed below, one may now proceed beyond solipsism unto a belief in a literal everything without yielding unto faith.


These are interesting perspectives; however, it would seem His entropism has not been heard.

Entropism, dervied from solipsism, starts at the belief that nothing exists beyond one's own mind. From their, it then proceeds to assert that the sentience of that mind deomonstrates the existence of that required for it - some tendancy or tendancy to become less orderly, the consciousness occupied another state. From there, it is then postulated that this/these tendencies, begetting entropy, could, in having propagated a state of a mind out of nothing, are sufficient for some form of ex nihilo generation.

From this, entropism proceeds unto an absolute tendancy to become less orderly. In considering this, and the capabilities of those tendancies previously mentioned, it is determined that absolute entropy of this tendancy would prove sufficient for ex nihilo generation of everything, including its own self.

From that, it is determined, within entropism, that, by an absolute tendancy to become less orderly, the sum of existence is absolute entropy.

Is this another way of saying our thoughts, dreams and beliefs colour our reality/experience?
So we might as well assume "It" exists so as to live with more color/manifest?


Title: Re: Stop discussing war and politics. You are feeding the fire.
Post by: vokain on October 09, 2014, 05:50:41 PM
The following seems applicable now:

Since it could not, prior limakasidian entropism, be conclusively demonstrated that anything existed beyond one's own mind, scientific evidence was accepted by faith and, therefore, was not proof.

However, as revealed below, one may now proceed beyond solipsism unto a belief in a literal everything without yielding unto faith.


These are interesting perspectives; however, it would seem His entropism has not been heard.

Entropism, dervied from solipsism, starts at the belief that nothing exists beyond one's own mind. From their, it then proceeds to assert that the sentience of that mind deomonstrates the existence of that required for it - some tendancy or tendancy to become less orderly, the consciousness occupied another state. From there, it is then postulated that this/these tendencies, begetting entropy, could, in having propagated a state of a mind out of nothing, are sufficient for some form of ex nihilo generation.

From this, entropism proceeds unto an absolute tendancy to become less orderly. In considering this, and the capabilities of those tendancies previously mentioned, it is determined that absolute entropy of this tendancy would prove sufficient for ex nihilo generation of everything, including its own self.

From that, it is determined, within entropism, that, by an absolute tendancy to become less orderly, the sum of existence is absolute entropy.

Is this another way of saying our thoughts and beliefs colour our reality/experience?
So we might as well assume "It" exists so as to live with more color/manifest?
No, it's saying that a tendency to become less orderly "was" (time is inapplicable here, as you will read) so genuine that it not only had itself come into existence but, quite literally, everything (read: the exact opposite of nothing).

Hail Eris! :)


Title: Re: Stop discussing war and politics. You are feeding the fire.
Post by: vokain on October 09, 2014, 05:59:22 PM
The following seems applicable now:

Since it could not, prior limakasidian entropism, be conclusively demonstrated that anything existed beyond one's own mind, scientific evidence was accepted by faith and, therefore, was not proof.

However, as revealed below, one may now proceed beyond solipsism unto a belief in a literal everything without yielding unto faith.


These are interesting perspectives; however, it would seem His entropism has not been heard.

Entropism, dervied from solipsism, starts at the belief that nothing exists beyond one's own mind. From their, it then proceeds to assert that the sentience of that mind deomonstrates the existence of that required for it - some tendancy or tendancy to become less orderly, the consciousness occupied another state. From there, it is then postulated that this/these tendencies, begetting entropy, could, in having propagated a state of a mind out of nothing, are sufficient for some form of ex nihilo generation.

From this, entropism proceeds unto an absolute tendancy to become less orderly. In considering this, and the capabilities of those tendancies previously mentioned, it is determined that absolute entropy of this tendancy would prove sufficient for ex nihilo generation of everything, including its own self.

From that, it is determined, within entropism, that, by an absolute tendancy to become less orderly, the sum of existence is absolute entropy.

Is this another way of saying our thoughts and beliefs colour our reality/experience?
So we might as well assume "It" exists so as to live with more color/manifest?
No, it's saying that a tendency to become less orderly "was" (time is inapplicable here, as you will read) so genuine that it not only had itself come into existence but, quite literally, everything (read: the exact opposite of nothing).

Because everything exists, there is an absolute (not ever increasing as implied by "infinite," but absolute) "number" (quantity is effectively inapplicable here) of possible configurations; thus, the entropy of existence (which, quite literally, consists of, quite literally, everything) is absolute.


(That revelation constitutes the fundament of limakasidian entropism.)

Hail Eris! :)
Have you comprehended your big bang?

I was thinking about it last night with a few friends. Perhaps because we (presumably) originate from one single point of space-time in (non)existence, fractally, comprehending any one part of the system that said point spawns upon expansion can reveal insights that lend way towards/manifests relativistic comprehension of all of space-time?


Title: Re: Stop discussing war and politics. You are feeding the fire.
Post by: vokain on October 09, 2014, 06:20:06 PM
"I am selecting, editing and transcribing letters and notes from the past year, some typed, some indecipherable long hand, for Chapter II of my novel on Interzone, tenatively entitled Ignorant Armies.
Find I cannot write without endless parenthesis (a parenthesis indicates the simultaneity of past, present and emergent future) [(I find I can)]. I exist in the present moment. I can't and won't pretend I am dead. This novel is not posthumous. A 'novel' is something finished, that is, dead—
I am trying, like Klee, to create something that will have a life of its own, that can put me in real danger, a danger which I willingly take on myself."


Title: Re: Stop discussing war and politics. You are feeding the fire.
Post by: vokain on October 09, 2014, 06:29:39 PM
"I am selecting, editing and transcribing letters and notes from the past year, some typed, some indecipherable long hand, for Chapter II of my novel on Interzone, tenatively entitled Ignorant Armies.
Find I cannot write without endless parenthesis (a parenthesis indicates the simultaneity of past, present and emergent future) [(I find I can)]. I exist in the present moment. I can't and won't pretend I am dead. This novel is not posthumous. A 'novel' is something finished, that is, dead—
I am trying, like Klee, to create something that will have a life of its own, that can put me in real danger, a danger which I willingly take on myself."
Whom do you quote?

Burroughs. Years ago I first heard a song by The Klaxons and months ago I read a trilogy by RAW and Robert Shea that were inspired in part by him, and as follows, very recently I read his book Interzone which has said quote on the back cover.


Title: Re: Stop discussing war and politics. You are feeding the fire.
Post by: vokain on October 09, 2014, 06:44:34 PM
"I am selecting, editing and transcribing letters and notes from the past year, some typed, some indecipherable long hand, for Chapter II of my novel on Interzone, tenatively entitled Ignorant Armies.
Find I cannot write without endless parenthesis (a parenthesis indicates the simultaneity of past, present and emergent future) [(I find I can)]. I exist in the present moment. I can't and won't pretend I am dead. This novel is not posthumous. A 'novel' is something finished, that is, dead—
I am trying, like Klee, to create something that will have a life of its own, that can put me in real danger, a danger which I willingly take on myself."
Whom do you quote?

Burroughs. Years ago I first heard a song by The Klaxons and months ago I read a trilogy by RAW and Robert Shea that were inspired in part by him, and as follows, very recently I read his book Interzone which has said quote on the back cover.
Who is "Klee?"

http://alondonletter.files.wordpress.com/2013/11/klee-1.jpg (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Klee)


Title: Re: Stop discussing war and politics. You are feeding the fire.
Post by: vokain on October 09, 2014, 06:50:23 PM
What is the significance of this regarding what it was that was being discussed?

Quote
Burroughs: Well, art is a creative act. Paul Klee said that art does not simply render nature, it renders it visible. The artist sees something that others do not see, and by seeing it and putting it on canvas, he makes it visible to others. Recognition art. A particle physicist at the University of Texas named John Wheeler has developed something that he calls “recognition physics.” Wheeler says that nothing exists until it is observed. Well, the artist as observer is like that. The observer creates by observing, and the observer observes by creating. In other words, observation is a creative act. By observing something and putting it onto canvas, the artist makes something visible to others that did not exist until he observed it.

Ellis: And by observing it, he takes part in its coming into being.

Burroughs: Exactly.

Observe and (you will) find.


Title: Re: Stop discussing war and politics. You are feeding the fire.
Post by: vokain on October 09, 2014, 06:56:57 PM
What is the significance of this regarding what it was that was being discussed?

Quote
Burroughs: Well, art is a creative act. Paul Klee said that art does not simply render nature, it renders it visible. The artist sees something that others do not see, and by seeing it and putting it on canvas, he makes it visible to others. Recognition art. A particle physicist at the University of Texas named John Wheeler has developed something that he calls “recognition physics.” Wheeler says that nothing exists until it is observed. Well, the artist as observer is like that. The observer creates by observing, and the observer observes by creating. In other words, observation is a creative act. By observing something and putting it onto canvas, the artist makes something visible to others that did not exist until he observed it.

Ellis: And by observing it, he takes part in its coming into being.

Burroughs: Exactly.

Observe and (you will) find.
Withholding superimposition, I see only what may be termed a crude projection of everything.

and

Who is "Klee [question mark omitted]"


Title: Re: Stop discussing war and politics. You are feeding the fire.
Post by: vokain on October 09, 2014, 07:28:49 PM
What, however, is the significance of this matter of "danger?"

I'd guess uncertainty lies danger therein, and that there therein lies a lesson to be learned with uncertainty/danger Itself.


Title: Re: Stop discussing war and politics. You are feeding the fire.
Post by: Vod on October 09, 2014, 08:47:52 PM
I'm sure there's quite a bit more people who lack respect for you, than your greedy scamring and those they deceive with fear.

Again, that's your false delusion, not mine.


Title: Re: Stop discussing war and politics. You are feeding the fire.
Post by: vokain on October 09, 2014, 09:22:06 PM
What, however, is the significance of this matter of "danger?"

I'd guess uncertainty [proves] danger [therewithin], and that [that proves] a lesson to be learned [about] uncertainty/danger Itself.
In truth, then, I tell you, there is no matter there.
Thank you.

"Exceptions eternally?"


Title: Re: Stop discussing war and politics. You are feeding the fire.
Post by: dank on October 10, 2014, 06:33:53 PM
Let's break this nonsense down into its parts:

Negativity is a manifestation of consciousness, positivity. E=MC^2 demonstrates this.  Energy is exponentially denser and more powerful than matter.

Yes, negativity is a manifestation of consciousness, as is positivity. The universe has no subjective state. The universe is, and we assign values to it. E=MC^2 does not demonstrate what you say. That's like saying 'everything negative comes from my brain, and the Pythagorean Theorem proves this.' Well, no, it doesn't.


All matter is created by consciousness.  

No, matter predated consciousness.

A couple examples that demonstrate this are motion and dreams.

Motion is the application of energy, and dreams are not tangible. Neither one of them is matter. Neither one of them are examples of how matter is created by consciousness.


For motion to begin with no source of energy to first exert motion is physically impossible.  

This is not true. All matter/energy that will ever exist was seeded by the Big Bang. Therefore, all motion was made possible from the energy released during the Big Bang.

If you believe everything was created from nothing, as the big bang proposes, then it would take nothing short of a miracle, consciousness.  

Call it a "miracle" or whatever synonym you want. One thing it would be incorrect to call it is "consciousness."

Let's say the universe has been in constant motion for all eternity and wasn't spawned from one instance

Let's not say this, because it's not accurate. The universe was spawned in one instance and has been in motion for as long as it has existed. That's an accurate thing you could say.

Add consciousness to the equation.  Unless you believe humans are robotic reactionary magnets bouncing through space with no intellect or freewill, humans require a consciousness to hold intelligence and give freewill.  But this is not exclusive to humans, thinking so is quite egocentric.  

All completely irrelevant to the Big Bang and the universe. You know what else is irrelevant to? Adding milk. Instead of adding consciousness to the equation, let's add milk. It makes just as much sense.

Humans came from earth, so in order for humans to have consciousness, earth must hold the same consciousness, just as the animals and plants do as well.

This is bullshit. Earth doesn't have consciousness. Earth is an inanimate object. Animals have consciousness because they have a brain. Except for limited instances in certain species, animals have a consciousness without self-awareness. Plants do not have a consciousness or self-awareness. Maybe we should try adding milk?

Science reinforces this and that plants are indeed aware of their surroundings.

This is something you just made up. Science is very pissed you're defaming it. I hear it's thinking about suing you for slander. This is something you should be worried about, because unlike the rest of us, you believe that inanimate objects have consciousness, and therefore, the reality that science might actually sue you for slander should be a very real possibility.

8So if humans are intelligent beings, earth is a conscious host cell that we inhabit.  

False conclusion based on nonexistent equivalency. Why don't we instead say "If humans have fingers, pushups like the color purple." The conclusion is just as valid, and just as unconnected to the premise.

And if earth is a conscious host cell, then the star dust it is composed of must also be conscious.

Already established it's not, but why not add in another unrelated conclusion. So now we have, "If humans have fingers, pushups like the color purple. If pushups like the color purple, then the colors red and blue, which make purple, must also have fingers."

Dreams further prove humans are conscious beings and not willless flesh robots pinballing through a game of fate endlessly.

This was never in question. No one was maintaining this. You've successfully concluded something nobody was arguing against.

Matter is a lower dimensional occurrences consciousness has created in order to experience itself from a foreign perspective of negativity and division, rather than positivity and unity.  

Matter exists outside consciousness. It always has. It always will. The rest of this sentence is a string of words that when put in their current order have no meaning. Except to milk. Milk likes that sentence very much.

Negativity is a necessary part of experiencing this world of 3D space and death, but it is not a necessary trait of existence, while positivity is, as it is endless.  Negativity cannot possibly result in an energy of a higher density or power.  Matter is incapable of replicating an energy of a higher dimension.

Milk likes this too, as it's all devoid of meaning. This sentence doesn't mean anything. It's kinda like saying Milkity milk milk milky milk. Of course, milk loves that sentence, but it has no meaning. Mmmmm, milk.

Negativity is the creation of love, consciousness.  Satan is merely a deep illusion god has created to perceive self from a different perspective, for if negativity never existed, we'd always be a singular point of infinite love.

Even though this statement is coherent, it's self-contradictory to itself. "If negativity never existed, we'd always be a singular point of infinite love."  -You.  Then, "Negativity is the creation of love." -Also, you. So according to you, only love would exist without negativity, but love comes from negativity, so we have to stop being negative so we can have more love, but we have to be negative in order to create love.

Do you see the logical inconsistencies with this single statement? It's a microcosm of all your posts.

TL;DR: Everything you said is milk.

This response has been sponsored by milk.



The universe is us.  It is constantly subjective to our perceptions.

You're not placed into the universe, you create the universe.  Your mind creates everything you see.  The rest is just light waves, energy.

You say consciousness creates negativity but not matter, I ask, what is the difference?


Where does the initial application of energy come from?

Dreams aren't tangible?  Of course they are.  Dreams can be more real than reality here.  Many don't remember their dreams due to their life patterns making it difficult to hold their consciousness in and out of sleep.

The fact that you can't take back items from dreams shows the limitations of lower dimensional material plane.  You can however bring experiences from this life back into the fourth dimension, your dream world.  This further shows consciousness is the creator of matter, as you do so when you dream.  Matter cannot create consciousness, it can only replicate it.


The current big bang model is flawed beyond recognition.  Something cannot come from nothing. Something can come from everything.  If you see the polarity of these words, you'll see they're mathematically true statements.

You are the big bang, you are the creation and the creator of all.

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Let's not say this, because it's not accurate. The universe was spawned in one instance and has been in motion for as long as it has existed. That's an accurate thing you could say.

What are you measuring accuracy by?  Logical truth or authority?

This premise is based on the flawed conclusions of time as conceived from are humanoid perception of linear growth.  We see the world change in a line, as of we are scrolling through the reel of a film.  Therefor, many conclude that existence follows the same linear timescale that is present on earth.

But this is a misconception of time.  Time is simply a measurement we created to count cycles.  It's not a set thing, you may see this if you experience your perception of time to go faster as many are experiencing as earth evolves.

All we have is now.  Time is not linear, we constantly bend through a single instance forever.

Infinity can be a hard concept to understand, but it is only a logical universal truth.  Humans largely exercise their 'thinking' part of the brain due to societal conditioning from how we are taught, to the food we consume, TV people watch and alcohol people consume.  Also add that fluoridated water calcifies your pineal gland into a rock.  Your pineal gland is your third eye, what allows you to dream.  The seat of the soul.  It's difficult to connect to an infinite perception of consciousness when your brain is disconnected from the gland responsible for such.  Gratefully, there are things you can do to change that.  Drink clean spring water, eat organic food, remove harmful substances from your life, even try sungazing into the sun as it sets over the horizon.  Eating certain vegetables and removing meat (especially factory farmed) from your diet will help decalcify it too.  Meditation and even some types of crystals will help activate your third eye.

You will get into great shape in the process.

Why is it good for you to sacrifices what you crave today?  When your brain becomes attached enough, your consciousness will hold great spiritual power and peace.  You can retain your consciousness as you fall asleep and consciously live in dreams.  They become heaven.  I am undergoing the process of wake dreaming l, I see them faintly before I fall asleep.  I am not holding my consciousness fully but dreams are becoming incredibly vivid.  Once I complete the life style changes above, the process onset much more rapidly with meditation.

All that it takes to become an illuminated being is spiritual intention and positive karma/a healthy life pattern.  Toxic foods and energies hold your vibrational frequency down, love sets it free.  The higher you resonate, the more you can do.

Sorry I can't go over your whole post, I am on a phone.


Title: Re: Stop discussing war and politics. You are feeding the fire.
Post by: Buffer Overflow on October 10, 2014, 07:12:09 PM
Sorry I can't go over your whole post, I am on a phone.
Job interview call?


The current big bang model is flawed beyond recognition.  Something cannot come from nothing. Something can come from everything.  If you see the polarity of these words, you'll see they're mathematically true statements.
You've said it YET AGAIN. Proof your just rambling on and not listening to anyone else. (See quotes below.) LOL :D

If you believe everything was created from nothing, as the big bang proposes, then it would take nothing short of a miracle, consciousness.
But the big bang theory doesn't propose everything came from nothing.

I've told you this before. Naturally, in true Dank style, you only believe what suits you and ignore everything else.


Title: Re: Stop discussing war and politics. You are feeding the fire.
Post by: samaricanin on October 10, 2014, 07:13:59 PM
World War III has already begun; Czech newspaper (http://svobodnenoviny.eu/3-svetova-valka-uz-probiha/)



Title: Re: Stop discussing war and politics. You are feeding the fire.
Post by: dank on October 10, 2014, 08:16:23 PM
Sorry I can't go over your whole post, I am on a phone.
Job interview call?


The current big bang model is flawed beyond recognition.  Something cannot come from nothing. Something can come from everything.  If you see the polarity of these words, you'll see they're mathematically true statements.
You've said it YET AGAIN. Proof your just rambling on and not listening to anyone else. (See quotes below.) LOL :D

If you believe everything was created from nothing, as the big bang proposes, then it would take nothing short of a miracle, consciousness.
But the big bang theory doesn't propose everything came from nothing.

I've told you this before. Naturally, in true Dank style, you only believe what suits you and ignore everything else.

I'm typing on a phone.

I'm saying the same thing in different context in hopes you will better understand it.  You seem to be the one rambling to me.

You say the big bang doesn't say something came from nothing, but that is the exact model that is being taught around the world.  Why not explain why if you truly feel that way?

The big bang proposes spontaneous creation of a universe and I am asserting that the universe is in complete order at all times.  It is a perfect balance of energies.

In regards to your last statement, you just pulled out one sentence of my last post to apply a logical fallacy to it while ignoring the rest of my post.


Title: Re: Stop discussing war and politics. You are feeding the fire.
Post by: Buffer Overflow on October 10, 2014, 08:30:04 PM
Sorry I can't go over your whole post, I am on a phone.
Job interview call?


The current big bang model is flawed beyond recognition.  Something cannot come from nothing. Something can come from everything.  If you see the polarity of these words, you'll see they're mathematically true statements.
You've said it YET AGAIN. Proof your just rambling on and not listening to anyone else. (See quotes below.) LOL :D

If you believe everything was created from nothing, as the big bang proposes, then it would take nothing short of a miracle, consciousness.
But the big bang theory doesn't propose everything came from nothing.

I've told you this before. Naturally, in true Dank style, you only believe what suits you and ignore everything else.

I'm typing on a phone.

I'm saying the same thing in different context in hopes you will better understand it.  You seem to be the one rambling to me.

You say the big bang doesn't say something came from nothing, but that is the exact model that is being taught around the world.  Why not explain why if you truly feel that way?

The big bang proposes spontaneous creation of a universe and I am asserting that the universe is in complete order at all times.  It is a perfect balance of energies.

In regards to your last statement, you just pulled out one sentence of my last post to apply a logical fallacy to it while ignoring the rest of my post.

The big bang theory proposes that matter was always there, it was just compressed, then suddenly expanded.
There was no something from nothing. The something was there all along.


Title: Re: Stop discussing war and politics. You are feeding the fire.
Post by: dank on October 10, 2014, 10:02:20 PM
And what caused it's expansion?


Title: Re: Stop discussing war and politics. You are feeding the fire.
Post by: Vod on October 10, 2014, 11:13:41 PM
You say the big bang doesn't say something came from nothing, but that is the exact model that is being taught around the world. 

Nonsense.  It's taught that all matter was condensed into a incredibly small particle with incredibly high density.

You never took physics in high school Sean.  You may have attended, but I doubt you were "there".


Title: Re: Stop discussing war and politics. You are feeding the fire.
Post by: iluvbitcoins on October 10, 2014, 11:24:55 PM
m8, one does not simply come to Politics&Society and tell us to stop discussing politics :D


Title: Re: Stop discussing war and politics. You are feeding the fire.
Post by: dank on October 11, 2014, 12:22:24 AM
OP you provide some very nice thoughts - do you meditate?
I see many things like you, but i think i am not so optimistic in some of them. You say that those institutions want us to fear them by seeding images of fear but right now i see more and more people getting ANGRY. They want to step up but are still kind of lethargic. Maybe, the truth is between those many opinions. Maybe, there isn't anybody that manipulates us as stated. But maybe, there is someone with intentions that we still don't know. I think, the truth is very versatile. People can choose what they concentrate on and if we don't choose to concentrate on a better world, then we simply will not have even an imagination of how a better world will look like. I like many thoughts from youtube videos of "Joe Dispenza" who says that the simple and repetitive imagination of an alternative world or state of mind creates new connections in the brain that will just act as if they were caused by a "real environment". People should concentrate on the better stuff but don't forget our environment and boundaries in order to be able to actually change something. Bitcoin is a good point in order to meet people who are ready for change although i am pretty sure that the future just begins with new stuff like Gridcoin where you support progress of humanity. I also hope that the main idea of bitcoin will find its place in democracy (e.g. by using blockchain). Sry for my bad english. Peace to all!


Than you brother.

I have meditated most with the assistance of psychedelics, though I will begin meditating consciously soon when I have the environment to do so.

I see fear and anger being derived from the same energy of ego/negativity.

I feel like the best thing we can do is act.  If we collectively make a free society, then that's it, you're free.  Those who feel peace will find peace and protection in life.  Synchronicity aligns you with the universe.  And the universe is love, god wants you to win.

And a side thought, thinking with your brain means nothing if you don't feel with your heart.

Peace friend


Title: Re: Stop discussing war and politics. You are feeding the fire.
Post by: Buffer Overflow on October 11, 2014, 06:45:17 AM
And what caused it's expansion?
We don't know, and probably never will.


Title: Re: Stop discussing war and politics. You are feeding the fire.
Post by: DhaniBoy on October 11, 2014, 06:51:39 AM
no eternal friends in politics, politics is not healthy can lead to war, war of course can cause casualties, the vast majority were children and women, politically, if managed properly can lead to well-being, in fact, a number of political figures the world many campaign about the war, whether we should choose them to be a political figure? they can be misery to the lives of people of the world, I hope not ...  8)


Title: Re: Stop discussing war and politics. You are feeding the fire.
Post by: vokain on October 12, 2014, 05:36:30 AM
no eternal friends in politics, politics is not healthy can lead to war, war of course can cause casualties, the vast majority were children and women, politically, if managed properly can lead to well-being, in fact, a number of political figures the world many campaign about the war, whether we should choose them to be a political figure? they can be misery to the lives of people of the world, I hope not ...  8)

"It is a well-known fact that those people who must want to rule people are, ipso facto, those least suited to do it... anyone who is capable of getting themselves made President should on no account be allowed to do the job."


Title: Re: Stop discussing war and politics. You are feeding the fire.
Post by: BADecker on October 12, 2014, 03:55:37 PM
dank, you need to respect the rights of others to talk about correcting a bad situation, even if it means fighting fire with fire. In an idealish world, your ideas would be okay. But when there are crooks who never even read what you have to say, and who would ignore all your wonderful peace if they read it...

Well, maybe you are happy with the idea of someone coming and stealing your motorcycle and your computer, and maybe executing you in the bargain, but I am not happy with that kind of an idea for me!

:)


Title: Re: Stop discussing war and politics. You are feeding the fire.
Post by: vokain on October 12, 2014, 04:25:40 PM
dank, you need to respect the rights of others to talk about correcting a bad situation, even if it means fighting fire with fire. In an idealish world, your ideas would be okay. But when there are crooks who never even read what you have to say, and who would ignore all your wonderful peace if they read it...

Well, maybe you are happy with the idea of someone coming and stealing your motorcycle and your computer, and maybe executing you in the bargain, but I am not happy with that kind of an idea for me!

:)

+1

every act of free will has secondary+ effects (i.e. your resulting predestination)

Stay vigilant & virtuous, brothers. Remember that we are all each others' lessons eventually to be learned as the merriest jokes :) So we listen harder, so that we don't always have to be the butt of one


Title: Re: Stop discussing war and politics. You are feeding the fire.
Post by: dank on October 12, 2014, 11:30:06 PM
dank, you need to respect the rights of others to talk about correcting a bad situation, even if it means fighting fire with fire. In an idealish world, your ideas would be okay. But when there are crooks who never even read what you have to say, and who would ignore all your wonderful peace if they read it...

Well, maybe you are happy with the idea of someone coming and stealing your motorcycle and your computer, and maybe executing you in the bargain, but I am not happy with that kind of an idea for me!

:)

I didn't say don't stand up for yourself.  I said stop discussing their acts of terror they commit to petrify the world in fear.

Those who truly are at peace don't have to worry about some stealing their motorcycle or executing them.  They align their spirit with the universe and the universe aligns them with synchronicity.

So long as your purpose is to serve the universe positively, the universe will look after you.

The law attraction says negative minded people will attract negative experiences and people, while positive people attract other positives.  Your reality matches that of which your frequency resonates.

If we keep focusing on what we fear, such as war, it will keep manifesting into life.  If we focus on the awakening of consciousness and self-awareness earth is encountering, it will proliferate into reality faster.  If you want a positive life or a positive world, all you must do is look at the positives.


Title: Re: Stop discussing war and politics. You are feeding the fire.
Post by: IamCANADIAN013 on October 13, 2014, 02:06:20 AM
There is no need to discuss war or the vastly great, illusive, power of the government.

By speaking of the government and their doings, you are giving them power, you are manifesting their control over reality into existence.

Your thoughts create your reality.  The truth is, the government does not rule the world, you do.  We control everything about this world as individuals in a collective.

Stop focusing on what you perceive to be negative and it will stop manifesting in life.

The world is turning into a beautiful place.  Unless you believe the government can convince their armies to slaughter every child that stands on this earth, there is no reason to fear the future.  We are the future.

Humans forgot how to live as a child even as they age.  Let go of the past and live in the moment of now.  Each day is a new day.  What made us young as children was the light we each held as we entered this earth.

Regain that light by bettering your physical and mental self and others around you.

If you wish to end the horror you see in the world, all we must do is spread the light from ourselves to one another.  We do not need to fight.  All we need is love.  Love spreads endlessly.

LOL! Yes, lets stop talking politics and war, lets ignore whats happening in the world and bury our heads in the sand.  These things need to be discussed so we learn, and we need to try and keep the government accountable for their actions.  Then again, you refuse to work, pay back your debts, and make a mockery of the system.  So I doubt it matters to you what the government does.

People can choose to ignore whats really going on, but those are the people that usually end up homeless and depend on others to survive.


Title: Re: Stop discussing war and politics. You are feeding the fire.
Post by: Vod on October 13, 2014, 02:53:45 AM
Those who truly are at peace don't have to worry about some stealing their motorcycle or executing them.  They align their spirit with the universe and the universe aligns them with synchronicity.

So long as your purpose is to serve the universe positively, the universe will look after you.


So you are saying squall isn't at peace?  Squall is a negative on the universe?

It didn't stop you from stealing $60,000 from him.   :-\

The six year old girl you raped - did she deserve it?  Were you serving the universe?

Your posts make NO sense.


Title: Re: Stop discussing war and politics. You are feeding the fire.
Post by: dank on October 13, 2014, 03:46:10 AM
The revolution will not be physical, it will be spiritual.


Title: Re: Stop discussing war and politics. You are feeding the fire.
Post by: vokain on October 13, 2014, 03:52:29 AM
The revolution will not be physical, it will be spiritual.
Define "spirit."

Φ


Title: Re: Stop discussing war and politics. You are feeding the fire.
Post by: dank on October 13, 2014, 04:50:40 AM
The revolution will not be physical, it will be spiritual.
Define "spirit."

Φ
"Beauty is in the eye of the beholder."

It goes deeper, it stems from the soul, consciousness.


Title: Re: Stop discussing war and politics. You are feeding the fire.
Post by: dank on October 13, 2014, 05:07:37 AM
Consciousness is the opposite of entropy.  Consciousness is complete order.  A perfect equilibrium.  Peace.

Entropy is the equivalent of ego.


Title: Re: Stop discussing war and politics. You are feeding the fire.
Post by: dank on October 13, 2014, 05:14:04 AM
Consciousness is the opposite of entropy.  Consciousness is complete order.  A perfect equilibrium.  Peace.

Entropy is the equivalent of ego.
Within limakasidian entropism, that "consciousness" would be a particular something within everything (read: the exact opposite of nothing).

Consciousness is everything.


Title: Re: Stop discussing war and politics. You are feeding the fire.
Post by: vokain on October 13, 2014, 05:33:18 AM
Everything/God is God/Everything


Title: Re: Stop discussing war and politics. You are feeding the fire.
Post by: freedomno1 on October 13, 2014, 06:30:11 AM
But Dank Sometimes Politics and War can Be Fun XD

Vote for Darth Vader of the Internet Party of Ukraine
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2JwAHhm6F8

Second one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4wVqDf1xks&list=UUm0qDRJWsZci5SIQtzYKY9w

Third one (Ha-ha LOL)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHE9wfroNDc&list=UUm0qDRJWsZci5SIQtzYKY9w

Fourth ah vader all he was doing was shopping
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqg88xOI95E&list=UUm0qDRJWsZci5SIQtzYKY9w

Gives the Dark side the power it needs and feeds the flame  ;)

http://rt.com/news/195272-ukraine-election-vader-ads/


Title: Re: Stop discussing war and politics. You are feeding the fire.
Post by: ARadzi on October 15, 2014, 08:25:27 AM
what shall we do then? keep our mouth shut?


Title: Re: Stop discussing war and politics. You are feeding the fire.
Post by: dank on October 17, 2014, 02:04:07 AM
what shall we do then? keep our mouth shut?

Speak of love, not fear.  A world in fear does not need more fear, it needs love.


Title: Re: Stop discussing war and politics. You are feeding the fire.
Post by: msc_de on October 17, 2014, 03:07:25 AM
UTOPIA


Title: Re: Stop discussing war and politics. You are feeding the fire.
Post by: MichaelBliss on December 01, 2014, 07:48:58 PM
Ok I stopped discussing it....

Turned on the news to find that it didn't work, the fire kept spreading without me.   Maybe it's not my fault after all?   Maybe the arms manufacturers, dealers,  politicians, banksters, etc. have everything to do with it, and what I discuss has nothing to do with it?   Discussion helps people open their eyes, and divest from the companies that are making these wars.   I don't know of any problem that's improved by ignoring it, and hoping it goes away.   That's what I would want everyone to do if I was guilty of destroying the world with my unbridled capitalism and greed..


Title: Re: Stop discussing war and politics. You are feeding the fire.
Post by: freedomno1 on December 11, 2014, 04:34:06 AM
what shall we do then? keep our mouth shut?

Speak of love, not fear.  A world in fear does not need more fear, it needs love.

Rest in peace dank
And well this thread can carry on for just a tad longer ^^


Title: Re: Stop discussing war and politics. You are feeding the fire.
Post by: Snorek on December 11, 2014, 05:42:40 AM
what shall we do then? keep our mouth shut?

Speak of love, not fear.  A world in fear does not need more fear, it needs love.

Dank, would you rather see us talking about peace and love? God and ultimate salvation? We would love to but you see... We do not have any clue about any of that things. But war... war in our blood, after all people are born to be soldiers.


Title: Re: Stop discussing war and politics. You are feeding the fire.
Post by: BADecker on December 11, 2014, 10:10:28 AM
what shall we do then? keep our mouth shut?

Speak of love, not fear.  A world in fear does not need more fear, it needs love.

Dank, would you rather see us talking about peace and love? God and ultimate salvation? We would love to but you see... We do not have any clue about any of that things. But war... war in our blood, after all people are born to be soldiers.

"Perfect love drives out fear," comes from 1 John in the New Testament of the Bible.   :)