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Title: When explaining Bitcoin to someone, what are some key points to speak about?
Post by: ThatDandyMan on October 23, 2014, 04:10:50 AM
I personally tell them about the decentralized nature and the lack of a middle man in transactions. What would BCT recommend to grab attention?


Title: Re: When explaining Bitcoin to someone, what are some key points to speak about?
Post by: chennan on October 23, 2014, 04:38:23 AM
1. free international transmission  
2. security-money is under your control
3. avoid high exchange fee especially for travel abroad


Title: Re: When explaining Bitcoin to someone, what are some key points to speak about?
Post by: Sophie.Greek on October 23, 2014, 04:42:43 AM
just one: bitcoin can make you rich.

he would go to check the rest  by himself


Title: Re: When explaining Bitcoin to someone, what are some key points to speak about?
Post by: ytr8 on October 23, 2014, 11:43:18 AM
I personally tell them about the decentralized nature and the lack of a middle man in transactions. What would BCT recommend to grab attention?

A very low transaction fees,

anonymity


Title: Re: When explaining Bitcoin to someone, what are some key points to speak about?
Post by: Enfield on October 23, 2014, 11:50:13 AM
I personally tell them about the decentralized nature and the lack of a middle man in transactions. What would BCT recommend to grab attention?

The decentralized nature is it's biggest selling point. Sadly, though, many people are not that familiar with economics or how the fiat monetary system works so they're not that bothered by it.


Title: Re: When explaining Bitcoin to someone, what are some key points to speak about?
Post by: orsotheysaid on October 23, 2014, 12:06:07 PM
I personally tell them about the decentralized nature and the lack of a middle man in transactions. What would BCT recommend to grab attention?

The decentralized nature is it's biggest selling point. Sadly, though, many people are not that familiar with economics or how the fiat monetary system works so they're not that bothered by it.

They don't give a fuck. I've tried explaining Bitcoin's supossed selling points to the average folk and they only start paying attention by the time I mention it can increase in value and they can win money. Other than that, they don't care because they can do everything that is needed in dollar, and 99% of people aren't wealthy enough to care about diversifying it if we are selling Bitcoin as a storage of value. So unless it becomes widely accepted everywhere and becomes a cool thing to do to pay with Bitcoin and so on.. it's doomed.


Title: Re: When explaining Bitcoin to someone, what are some key points to speak about?
Post by: Finchy on October 23, 2014, 12:11:05 PM
I personally tell them about the decentralized nature and the lack of a middle man in transactions. What would BCT recommend to grab attention?

The decentralized nature is it's biggest selling point. Sadly, though, many people are not that familiar with economics or how the fiat monetary system works so they're not that bothered by it.

They don't give a fuck. I've tried explaining Bitcoin's supossed selling points to the average folk and they only start paying attention by the time I mention it can increase in value and they can win money.

Well then try sell them on the potential investment idea of bitcoin, though of course the opposite is true and you could easily lose money. Bitcoin just isn't for everyone at the moment, but hopefully they'll realise their mistake of not getting interested when you tried to tell them, then you can feel pretty smug about it all.


Title: Re: When explaining Bitcoin to someone, what are some key points to speak about?
Post by: Enfield on October 23, 2014, 12:17:48 PM
I personally tell them about the decentralized nature and the lack of a middle man in transactions. What would BCT recommend to grab attention?

The decentralized nature is it's biggest selling point. Sadly, though, many people are not that familiar with economics or how the fiat monetary system works so they're not that bothered by it.

They don't give a fuck. I've tried explaining Bitcoin's supossed selling points to the average folk and they only start paying attention by the time I mention it can increase in value and they can win money. Other than that, they don't care because they can do everything that is needed in dollar, and 99% of people aren't wealthy enough to care about diversifying it if we are selling Bitcoin as a storage of value. So unless it becomes widely accepted everywhere and becomes a cool thing to do to pay with Bitcoin and so on.. it's doomed.

Well that's sadly what happens with most people, but like Finchy said above maybe they will live to regret not trying to understand the benefits at some point in the future. You just can't force it on people so they need to look into it themselves and if they don't there's nothing anyone can do about that, but hopefully bitcoins popularity in the future will help sway them.


Title: Re: When explaining Bitcoin to someone, what are some key points to speak about?
Post by: sandykho47 on October 23, 2014, 12:28:53 PM
1. Decentralization / Freedom  :D
2. How simple you use bitcoin
3. Bitcoin Price
4. What will happen bitcoin in future
5. Low fee

I think this is good for noob, and don't talk about bitcoin too hard.


Title: Re: When explaining Bitcoin to someone, what are some key points to speak about?
Post by: MF Doom on October 23, 2014, 12:37:05 PM
just one: bitcoin can make you rich.

he would go to check the rest  by himself

No, just no. It never will have 1000% increases again.

But tell them its an easy way to send/receive money w/o fees and that it could save merchants billions in card processing/bank fees.  Also that there are a guaranteed limit supply of 21 million ever to be in circulation, a huge improvement over current gov't currencies!  Also no counterfeiting!


Title: Re: When explaining Bitcoin to someone, what are some key points to speak about?
Post by: Q7 on October 23, 2014, 12:50:04 PM
I just told them look how cool i have these numbers call bitcoin which you can keep in your phone. And you can buy just about anything errr... almost anything. And it's worth something like like 800 bucks per coin. And you can get it in faucets for free...

That's the exact same word my buddy told me and got me hooked on to bitcoin


Title: Re: When explaining Bitcoin to someone, what are some key points to speak about?
Post by: Beliathon on October 23, 2014, 02:19:04 PM
How and why fiat money is a violence-backed monopoly and scam run by legitimized con men.

And that Bitcoin is the first viable alternative in the history of this planet that is immune to violence because it is decentralized.


Title: Re: When explaining Bitcoin to someone, what are some key points to speak about?
Post by: lilin321 on October 23, 2014, 02:19:29 PM
I personally tell them about the decentralized nature and the lack of a middle man in transactions. What would BCT recommend to grab attention?

if the price of Bitcoin rises up ,i think more and more people will pay  attention to it .


Title: Re: When explaining Bitcoin to someone, what are some key points to speak about?
Post by: shawshankinmate37927 on October 23, 2014, 02:45:16 PM
I personally tell them about the decentralized nature and the lack of a middle man in transactions. What would BCT recommend to grab attention?

To understand Bitcoin, you have to understand money: www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2YllvbJo6g


Title: Re: When explaining Bitcoin to someone, what are some key points to speak about?
Post by: RappelzReborn on October 23, 2014, 04:14:39 PM
Bitcoin price of course , anonymity , Low fees for transaction . that's the first things I guess


Title: Re: When explaining Bitcoin to someone, what are some key points to speak about?
Post by: ThatDandyMan on October 23, 2014, 10:07:09 PM
Thanks for all the feedback! It was really useful!


The next few days of my life are going to be filled with people asking me about Bitcoin. I was able to get my school's news segment to speak about Bitcoin, I am currently writing a paper on Bitcoin, which many students will read, and I'm essentially a walking advertisement for Bitcoin with the shirt I'm wearing (https://i.imgur.com/eKrnvi6.jpg)



I hope all goes well, and once again thanks for the input!


Title: Re: When explaining Bitcoin to someone, what are some key points to speak about?
Post by: Beliathon on October 24, 2014, 01:06:58 AM
To understand Bitcoin, you have to understand money: www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2YllvbJo6g
What an outstanding talk, thanks for sharing this. I have a newfound respect for Erik Vorhees.


Title: Re: When explaining Bitcoin to someone, what are some key points to speak about?
Post by: Roger_Murdock on October 24, 2014, 02:37:05 AM
I like to focus on "unpacking" three words: digital, decentralized, ledger. Here's my standard intro comment:

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The reason it's so hard for most people to understand Bitcoin is that most people don't really understand money. Money isn't wealth. It's an accounting system used to facilitate the exchange of wealth. (The paradox of money is that while everyone wants it, no one actually wants it - they want the stuff they can buy with it!) Many people are put off by the fact that bitcoins are "just zeroes and ones." But that's what ALL money is, information! More precisely, money is a means for credibly conveying information about value given but not yet received (or at least not yet received in a form in which it can directly satisfy a person's wants or needs).

To put it yet another way, money is a ledger. With fiat currencies like the dollar, that ledger is centralized. And that gives the central authority responsible for maintaining that ledger tremendous power, power that history has proven will inevitably be abused. With Bitcoin, the ledger is decentralized. And that means that no one individual or entity has the power to arbitrarily create new units (thereby causing inflation), freeze (or seize) your account, or block a particular payment from being processed. We've had decentralized money before. After all, no one can simply print new gold into existence. And the "ledger" of gold is distributed because the physical gold itself (the "accounting entries" in the metaphor) is distributed. But with gold, that decentralization comes at a heavy price (literally). The physical nature of gold makes it hugely inefficient from a transactional perspective.

Enter Bitcoin.

It is the first currency in the world that is BOTH decentralized AND digital. It is more reliably scarce than gold, more transactionally efficient than "modern" digital banking, and enables greater financial privacy than cash. It could certainly still fail for one reason or another, but if it doesn't, it has the potential to be very, VERY disruptive.


Title: Re: When explaining Bitcoin to someone, what are some key points to speak about?
Post by: foxkyu on October 24, 2014, 06:32:19 AM
1. bitcoin concept is Decentralization its mean no government can control it
2. very easy to use bitcoin
3. security under your control
4. price in the future
5. low fee
6. you can travel over the world without worried about fiat


Title: Re: When explaining Bitcoin to someone, what are some key points to speak about?
Post by: medUSA on October 24, 2014, 06:44:56 AM
Cut out the decentralised and government control part, they aren't interested. Believe me, I have tried.
Tell them what bitcoin can do for them!

- Transfer money to your friends and family in an instant
- Get paid for work on the internet or payment for the things you sell
- All without the bank and paypal charges, at home, 24x7
- Buy things you like from retailers like Amazon via gift cards for bitcoin
- Save some of the coins and it's value might appreciate in a couple of years

This usual works. Get them interested first, don't bored them with ideologies and blockchain tech.


Title: Re: When explaining Bitcoin to someone, what are some key points to speak about?
Post by: h4xx0r on October 24, 2014, 06:48:40 AM
Explain to them that bitcointalk is full of scammers and they should avoid it at all costs.


Title: Re: When explaining Bitcoin to someone, what are some key points to speak about?
Post by: rampage101 on October 24, 2014, 07:08:43 AM
Bitcoin has value because:

1) it's scarce
2) it's useful

If they talk about Beanie Babies, you can explain that Beanie Babies were scarce, but they were not useful.


Title: Re: When explaining Bitcoin to someone, what are some key points to speak about?
Post by: btcduke on October 24, 2014, 08:39:39 AM
The total amount doesn’t change.
It’s convenient to pay between countries.


Title: Re: When explaining Bitcoin to someone, what are some key points to speak about?
Post by: farjia on October 24, 2014, 09:02:52 AM
I personally tell them about the decentralized nature and the lack of a middle man in transactions. What would BCT recommend to grab attention?

if the price of Bitcoin rises up ,i think more and more people will pay  attention to it .

Yes, I was trying to explain it to my father one day and he didn't seem too interested in it and then I told him the price of 1 bitcoin (It was around $600 at the time) and I immediately got his attention. :D


Title: Re: When explaining Bitcoin to someone, what are some key points to speak about?
Post by: bitnanigans on October 25, 2014, 06:35:17 AM
1. Fast transactions, but only with fees
2. Secure, but only if you've taken the proper steps
3. Ability to have as many wallet addresses as desired


Title: Re: When explaining Bitcoin to someone, what are some key points to speak about?
Post by: fa on October 25, 2014, 10:48:58 AM
I used to say rise in price and deflation... but recently I switched to money freedom  :(


Title: Re: When explaining Bitcoin to someone, what are some key points to speak about?
Post by: TrailingComet on October 25, 2014, 05:11:53 PM
Divisibility, irreversibility, peer to peer , and low transaction fees


Title: Re: When explaining Bitcoin to someone, what are some key points to speak about?
Post by: NEM minnow on October 25, 2014, 07:29:01 PM
Bitcoin isn't just money like a dollar or a euro, it is a programmable money.  It can be endowed with qualities, directions, limits, and purpose. 

A dollar bill is an dumb analog token.  A bit is digital, adaptable, and programmable token.  Which do you think is better?   


Title: Re: When explaining Bitcoin to someone, what are some key points to speak about?
Post by: adhitthana on October 26, 2014, 09:24:44 AM
The Cyprus "Bail in" is worth mentioning. Most people think they still own the money they deposit into a bank. In fact they have loaned the money to the bank.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/financialcrisis/10024209/Bank-of-Cyprus-executes-depositor-bail-in.html


Title: Re: When explaining Bitcoin to someone, what are some key points to speak about?
Post by: Lethn on October 26, 2014, 09:32:36 AM
Wait until the crash, then start explaining it to them, that's what I've decided, I've noticed the more the stock market starts to tumble the more people seem interested, they'll only move over to Bitcoin if they genuinely think that there's a chance the economy will go again.


Title: Re: When explaining Bitcoin to someone, what are some key points to speak about?
Post by: TSE on October 26, 2014, 09:48:20 AM
the personal that its likely u will get rich when bitcoin suceeds. Given by the fact that there wont be enough bitcoins to give every citizen of a capitol like New York or Shanghai more than one single bitcoin.

the global aspect. Which is that this is the first time we have the poss to self control our money and not beeing slaves of the world banking system


Title: Re: When explaining Bitcoin to someone, what are some key points to speak about?
Post by: liu405 on October 26, 2014, 01:17:37 PM
I personally tell them about the decentralized nature and the lack of a middle man in transactions. What would BCT recommend to grab attention?

i will say that  he can earn money through the Bitcoin , when he  take part in ,he may find the fun about Bitcoin naturally


Title: Re: When explaining Bitcoin to someone, what are some key points to speak about?
Post by: Daniel91 on October 26, 2014, 01:21:56 PM
1. Fast transactions, but only with fees
2. Secure, but only if you've taken the proper steps
3. Ability to have as many wallet addresses as desired

Very good points.
I would add also a few more.
4. Very good investment for your money.
5. Possibility to avoid ''big banks'' and help to decentralize world banking.


Title: Re: When explaining Bitcoin to someone, what are some key points to speak about?
Post by: adhitthana on October 26, 2014, 11:00:47 PM
The Cyprus "Bail in" is worth mentioning. Most people think they still own the money they deposit into a bank. In fact they have loaned the money to the bank.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/financialcrisis/10024209/Bank-of-Cyprus-executes-depositor-bail-in.html
You could show them this too.
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/26/us/law-lets-irs-seize-accounts-on-suspicion-no-crime-required.html?rref=us&module=Ribbon&version=origin&region=Header&action=click&contentCollection=U.S.&pgtype=article&_r=1

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ARNOLDS PARK, Iowa — For almost 40 years, Carole Hinders has dished out Mexican specialties at her modest cash-only restaurant. For just as long, she deposited the earnings at a small bank branch a block away — until last year, when two tax agents knocked on her door and informed her that they had seized her checking account, almost $33,000.

The Internal Revenue Service agents did not accuse Ms. Hinders of money laundering or cheating on her taxes — in fact, she has not been charged with any crime. Instead, the money was seized solely because she had deposited less than $10,000 at a time, which they viewed as an attempt to avoid triggering a required government report.

“How can this happen?” Ms. Hinders said in a recent interview. “Who takes your money before they prove that you’ve done anything wrong with it?”

The federal government does.


Title: Re: When explaining Bitcoin to someone, what are some key points to speak about?
Post by: Dabs on October 27, 2014, 03:52:23 AM
Yeah. The government can't take your money if it's in bitcoin. Well, not easily anyway.

Imagine if you were Ms. Hinders, with a Mexican specialties cash-only restaurant, that incidentally started accepting Bitcoins. For the next 40 years, you deposit the cash earnings and have it converted to bitcoins the next day, while keeping the bitcoin-only payments, both sent to different paper wallets.


Title: Re: When explaining Bitcoin to someone, what are some key points to speak about?
Post by: BIT-Sharon on October 27, 2014, 08:12:21 AM
It is not only a speculation which will earn you 1000 times of income, but also a mature and unlimited electronic currency which saves you amount of transaction fees. Besides,  it is a designed and perfect technology product which refers to many subjects of what you learned.


Title: Re: When explaining Bitcoin to someone, what are some key points to speak about?
Post by: Rewap on October 27, 2014, 08:24:03 AM
Awesome explanation of how Bitcoin sidechains work and why they are important for Bitcoin's future.

A simple explanation of Bitcoin “Sidechains”

http://gendal.wordpress.com/2014/10/26/a-simple-explanation-of-bitcoin-sidechains/


Can you also list the problems encountered when using sidechains?



Title: Re: When explaining Bitcoin to someone, what are some key points to speak about?
Post by: waser12 on November 02, 2014, 06:41:10 PM
Bitcoin in decentralized and you have the control on your own money, in add its an opportunity to get rich or get a lot of money if you are a good trader.