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I still have not received the promised 1.5BTC from fairproof, it has now been months with no response and countless emails and support requests sent

EDIT DEC 31 2014 - end of the year, sadly, no sign of my 1.5BTC - 7.3BTC compensation, no sign of fairproof. Haven't logged in for months.

Evidence Timeline:
Fairproof Thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=287653.0
(Oct 3) beginning of issue: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=287653.msg9068539#msg9068539
(Oct 4) Statement where I said no more gambling (4.3btc): https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=287653.msg9077043#msg9077043
(Oct 6) Fairproofs email: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=287653.msg9104534#msg9104534
(Oct 14) Gave up hope, Post after 7.5btc loss: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=819254.msg9194994#msg9194994
(Oct 26) Fairproof stating account unlocked: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=287653.msg9346922#msg9346922

Hello bitcointalk
In the last month I've been waiting for my fairproof account to be unlocked for withdrawal. At first, they stated my account was under investigation due to the fact that my account was winning a lot and thought I was cheating. Since I wasn't cheating I wasn't phased at all. I had worked up my 1BTC (0.5btc deposit+0.5btc bonus) to a nice 4.3BTC and I wanted to pull out and withdraw. Days had past, I had been posting daily in the FAIRPROOF thread. People began to watch, a few Memebers decided to support me, and then weeks past, and I gave up hope.
After two weeks of waiting, and after fairproof not even logging into his account not even once, I decided to have a gamble, hope to either win big or bust my balance. I knew my coins were gone anyway, I didn't want to wait nor did I want to continue posting daily hoping for a response. I got my balance to 7.5btc then began 10x on .2btc base bet, an impossible way to make bank. I busted, 7 bets of 1BTC on 10x. I wasn't phased, my coins were gone anyway, I had already been scammed even if I had won 100btc.
A day or so later, fairproof emails me saying my account is unlocked but "unfortunately" all of my funds had been lost gambling. As soon as I saw this, I knew straight away I was scammed since the beginning, this was his plan. He simply waited out until I gave up hope and gambled, and eventually lost. Smart move, I guess, but I am now not giving up.

What am I asking for?
4.3btc, the original amount I had when I promised I WOULD NOT gamble until I get my money. I am not asking for interest, or 7.5btc that I won, just what I originally stopped at.

Why am I asking for this?
Since this one loss busted my entire Bitcoin balance, I have nothing left, I am $3,000 in debt and I need these coins to keep me on my feet.

I really need these funds. I hope that in common decency and the fact to keep their site alive and doubt free, fairproof will pay up...

TO FAIRPROOF
My address is on my profile
The amount owed is 4.3BTC, no more and no less.

I would appreciate someone with default trust helps me out. All evidence is on top of the OP.

 Reserved for updates

Current update: ndhc is soon going to post a screenshot of some emails from fairproof, stating they think I was socially engineering them

If this was the case, why was my account unlocked? How come they didn't post this to the public?
Because it's a lie, that's why.

Waiting for my 4.3btc.

The replies:

http://i58.tinypic.com/24m5fm1.png

http://i.gyazo.com/e23791ff62249d5761fba0472eb41eaa.png

My account was in other control during that period for a loan, only for a few days. I can't locate this in my outbox. Can you forward me the PM's?

You just made a fool out of yourself...

Was your email in escrow for the loan as well?  ::)

I've looked through my outbox and during the periods of the 14th of September to the 19th of September my account was in the possession of darksun22 for a loan
From what I can see, malware WAS SENT from this account in the fom of a dice bot. I'm going to post a scam accusation against darksun22 in the coming hours.

Fairproof did in fact notify that the item was malware, though, I do not se why this affects my BTC and why this wsnt mentioned earlier. This seems more like he is using that as an excuse not to pay.

That is a separate issue and I will deal with it accordingly, but this has nothing to do with my 4.3btc

Edit - copies of espringe messages are in my outbox, but not in my inbox. Funnily enough dark sun forgot to wipe all of the evidence.

My point of view is that, if that was really the issue, fairproof have no right to confiscate the funds.
Even banning moreia immediately and notifying him is understandable.

But, fairproof allowed him to play, allowed him to win, why?
Why unlock the account after 24 days?
Why no explanation?

There is not a public thread but I do have PM records which I'll be posting in a new thread once all this is cleared up. One scammer at a time.
I'm waiting for Fairproofs response again. I'm promoting this thread when I get on my PC.

what ever you say TF.

While I do not consider any of this activity to be trustworthy, I do not think any of this is a valid reason to not pay moreia. If he won the money then he should be paid, end of story.

Unless it can be documented that the maleware that was sent by moreia had caused him to win when he should not have won then he should be paid.

Although admitting that the maleware had caused him to win would certainly be a black eye to your site, it is the only real reason why he should not be entitled to his winnings (I would not put it out of the question that this is what caused him to win)

http://i.gyazo.com/e23791ff62249d5761fba0472eb41eaa.png

As he says in this email, he was not infected and not affected by the malware sent by darksun, therefor,

He says that their system was not infected by the malware however he also does not say how he know it was malware. It is possible that he did not want to admit as such as it would cause gamblers to lose confidence in his site

if you find a piece of malware that is capable of rigging winnings on a gambling site, then I'll gladly drop this report.

I've never heard of such thing.

I am taking a neutral stance from here.

I feel that both moreia and fairproof is acting very strange.

I will not disclose any more emails as per fairproof's request.

I just want the money I earned, simple as that. I've done nothing wrong, I didn't harm nor cheat his site therefor I'm entitled to my money

Moreia,

Your bitcoins are not stolen, you’ve lost them during the investigation.

Your behaviour caused such a long investigation.

Firstly you’ve sent an infected betting bot for fairproof.

After a couple of weeks you’ve made the first deposit and immideatly got a huge winnings.

We could block your account according to our terms of services but we haven’t - we started the investigation.

While contacting our support you asked how to redeem a Bad Luck bonus which is 1.5 BTC (7.5BTC * 20%). Not a word about 4.3 BTC.

But on bitcointalk you are talking about stolen 7.5 BTC. How come?

Moreia, you act very strange. Nevertheless we provide you with a bad luck bonus which is 1.5 BTC.

$username, thanks. You proved that moreia is not innocent.

Our policy is not to wash dirty linen in public. But currently we have to. Screenshots Moreia’s messages can be provided by request.

We close this case and nobody could not claim FairProof as a Scam.

lol whos lets someone play while they investigate? what fucking bs, all u have is scam accusations in your profile not one good thing said. NO one should play here.

Moreia is just some idiot who lost all his money gambling and is trying to do whatever he can to get some back .You lost it fair and square quit being a bitch. Your out that cash and its your fault

obviously you didnt read the story you child
i couldnt cashout, thats the point
24 days i had to wait before my account was re-enabled for cashouts.
24 DAYS
i wanted to cashout at 4.3BTC, which is why i made this thread

Fairproof, you still owe me 2.8btc

Actually, scratch that.
4.3btc.... Because I haven't got 1.5btc like you,claim in my address nor in my fairproof account

Scam. Scam is obvious.
Only the interface of the site is good. ie. whoever designed that got some skills. But is operated by a scammy admin.

A similar site: http://satoshi36.com/index probably operated by same person.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=286972.msg3282475#msg3282475
Fake statistics???
Well we can't prove that. :(

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=288229.msg3088413#msg3088413
Proof that
house edge was "lowered" from 7% (to 1.9%)

Here what I read in the thread:
1. moreia was a bad guy trying to infect some casinos but failed.
2. moreia won on FairProof fairly with his deposit.
3. FairProof decided to not pay moreia because he was a bad guy.

Am I getting the facts right here?

lol, guy sends malware to a gambling site, so owner scams him his coins. I guess two wrongs makes a right after all  :D

But this makes me wonder where the fine line is, and what amount of btc you can justify keeping. If it was a whale betting 500btc, would you have kept that too?

If you are talking about fairproof, absolutely. He treats all coins in his site as his own.

fairproof says it didn't infect his site. and the 4.3 BTC was won fairly. So why confiscate the entire amount?

The 4.3 was lost from gambling after fairproof denied to payout the OP's balance. They had a promotion where they would refund a portion of any losses.

I think it is suspicious that the entire amount was lost like this after winning such a large amount.

I have no idea if moreia is a scammer and hacker or not.
But even if he is, FairProof need to pay him if he wins the bitcoin fair and square.

I would of appreciated that as well. How can one investigate an account for cheating, yet still allows them to play?
If you have suspicions of me cheating you should have LOCKED my account until the investigation was over...

My conclusion is that FAIRPROOF locked my WITHDRAWALS ONLY, giving them more time and wait for me to lose, then when lost unlock withdrawals and say bad luck.

Still waiting on fairproof, and someone in default trust to neg him

still no update, gone quiet again fairproof?

No update still no login since 1st of november.
running from his problems, typical

still no updates login not a single penny of compensation received.

Still waiting, no login or updates

Again, no updates from FP, have not received a penny as of today.

He has logged in and replied to his thread but not on this one. clearly hiding from his debts and scams, scammer.

You still owe me 4.3BTC, and still, I can't claim 1.5BTC of it. Scammer.
http://i59.tinypic.com/al3shw.jpg

Still no 1.5BTC (4.3BTC owed)
whats keeping you fairproof??

still no update.. been weeks now

From reading through this thread, my unfortunate conclusion is that fairproof is not going to give you anything.

It appears to be because you attempted to send them malware (although this may not be the case).

literally have not received any response
i WANT 4.3BTC compensation but according to your 20% loss return I AM ENTITLED TO 1.5BTC
I am still waiting for the 1.5BTC

I still have not received the promised 1.5BTC from fairproof, it has now been months with no response and countless emails and support requests sent

Scammed. Sorry to gravedig, but my coins are still in limbo @ fairproof and i want to make sure no one else is ripped like I was

still nothing from FairProof

I will lock this thread once they send my 1.5 they promised to send to 1redsY74u97ECVVKx7Gz9QWJWECUuzsrj