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I buying 50 USD  worth BTC via paypal (verified)at bitstamp USD prices.
available in small portions.

I can go first with members with more trust than me but others will have to go first or use escrow.

Thanks

Explain to me how exactly will escrow help in this case? You do realize Paypal can be reversed many months later?

^^ Particularly since they implemented the extended reversal, which is significantly longer than the previous length of time, although I can't remember off the top of my head the exact number of days.

Virwox or w/e it is...use that bud.

I believe they matched credit card with 180 days. IIRC

Versus the initial 45 days IIRC, which is absolutely ridiculous. I don't understand how this provides any protection to users. There are still quite a few ways that he could decide to make the purchase though.

I do know how,but  I can send as for friend and can't claim paypal to dispute

Yes it can.

Agreed. PayPal makes it easy to dispute people because they try to make it scamproof; thus proofing it for the other side a lot of the time.

Off-Topic (kind of)- KTC, your signature is very relevant to the topic  ;D

One is the question only what you means , Insanity- those who buy and those who sell?
or PayPal’s with  annual revenue over $7 billion and 157 million  wallets , untrustworthy METHODS OF PAYMENT in this forum

I don't know what your post means...

Of course they have a lot of people that use it. Specifically, pertaining to BTC transactions though, where it's still a somewhat gray area, it'd be difficult to resolve disputes successfully.

still need

Get a paypal debit card and use Circle.

I need 250 at PP pm me , not 50 if u got 250 let me know.

pm send

still need  :)

maybe already needed?

yesterday I make deal with ruthless09, I sent him $175, but still not got btc  :-[, he not respond and all time ofline.
i did know or its time to report about scam or or even wait ???

u did this via paypal ?

yes, via pp

pass 24hours I open dispute >:(

You'll keep getting scammed if you try to buy BTC for paypal here unless you deal with someone trusted. Only problem is you're still new so I doubt any trusted member will sell to you for paypal.

You're better off finding a different way to buy BTC.

I still have hope that a misunderstanding here. find trusted here's complicated.

You have to prove your reliability by completeing successful transations; there are verified sellers that are listed somewhere in the Meta section, if I remember right

easy to give advice, but difficult to fulfill, veriefed seller not want to sell via pp, or price +20%-30%

The second day - silence on the seller  side  >:(

Did you confirm it via message logs? :o

what you means?

Did you confirm it with him that you were intending on selling it? Before it can be proven that it was a scam, you need to provide proper proof that such a transaction was agreed upon prior and then that he failed to pay...???

it is understood that the confirmation, provide proof for what ?

Provide proof of the transaction, so that people will side with you

hiere proof my transaction:

http://kipschas.weebly.com/uploads/9/6/3/9/9639828/9961945_orig.jpg

Post in the Scam section of the forum!  :o Sorry to hear you got scammed :(

still hoping to find Honest sellers

After a month of waiting, finally I got my money back ;D

I only not understand why he did it, whatis the benefit him?

He gets $175. You really shouldn't use PayPal to buy goods; people are less willing to sell them, because it's too easy to dispute a transaction.

he got $175 to very short time, I not unerstand why he try scamed me if know that PP refund funds.

P.S.
I still want  buy BTC or LTC , Dogecoin

If it's a fake account, he could've withdrawn the money within the span of the transaction. His account would have a negative balance, and PayPal wouldn't really do anything about it. You should really just use something like localbitcoins.com, since it's trusted. Buying through PayPal is something that's not covered by their terms of service, so anyone that sold to you would be VERY wary after the fact.

I do not think that account fake, becouse is verified.

Its a rare thing to find a trustable seller who ll accept paypal as a payment method. Unless you are shopping over ebay.

I ve no idea about him but you can try to negotiate with him

http://www.ebay.com/itm/0-1-BTC-Bitcoin-Direct-to-your-Digital-Wallet-/281520543082?pt=US_Virtual_Currency&hash=item418bee956a

$480/1btc and not endet :o :o :o

when you want to pay back my money ??
0.8 BTC oscarftw scammed from me.
He babbles only of repayment, but not paid

that maybe you this seller in ebay?

Are you willing to escrow it until after the dispute period has passed?

you means , I sent $ now -coins receive after 45 day?

recent day I tested exchange via wirwox  :o, its first time and hope last....dreadfully high fee.
deposited -PP fee, buy sll -fee, buy btc-fee, withdraw- fee.(and I not buy in market price , but placed bid  order ) withdraw wait time 2 day. and exchange max amount (to small amount finaly rate even worse)
finally price $410/btc :o

You could just buy it via an escrower, unless I'm mistaken. There are free escrowers out there.

can give me  link

How much BTC are you looking for $50 USD worth?

0.145 btc

The problem is .145 BTC is worth $51+.  So not only losing money right off the bat but also losing money on the paypal fees, and you have to offer a percentage for the possible risk of using a reversable method like paypal.

if I send as gift you not losing on the fee

dont they have  a limit how much btc you can gt?

There are quite a few escrowers out there that do escrows for free; I might start doing it myself. If you're still looking for people next week, I'll be willing to do it for you haha. If you look at other Marketplace sections, there's a post of the list of escrowers, with their respective fees.

Escrow Whitelist: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=276897.0

I highly advise against using PayPal for Bitcoin. When there are new users involved (ie. newer than 2 years or so), one of two scenarios will almost always play out:

1. The seller ends up taking your PayPal payment and stalling until he can cash out
2. The buyer receives the Bitcoins but then disputes the PayPal payment

The only real question is which one of you is the scammer.

limit $75per day

I forget how many days it is before it passes the period where you can dispute, but theoretically, if the seller deposits the BTC to the escrower, and then the buyer sends the money directly, over PayPal, can't the escrower just send the BTC after the period has passed?

180 days.

and what is here?

Shit. An escrower could still do it though, couldn't they? haha.

currently would bought 50 eur worth btc

It has been a few weeks and you are still trying impressive.

why you think that is my some deal?I  exhanged previous amount in USD, now want  buy via eur.

Trying to arrange a deal, but Op really is hoping for the moon, wanting me to match the rate of a Eur exchange.
Does me no good to match an exchange I'm unable to get funds onto.
And Don't expect a none euro spending person to accept it, Paypal kills you with exchanging to local currency.

offer still actual

If u need some BTC lately let me know.

rate?