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And, with following that last request, Patrick Murck immediately logs off, posting what I quoted at the top of this post in 20pt bold red font.

Since I now believe 100% in my mind that The Bitcoin Foundation is hiding something and acting nefariously, I demand a full investigation into their books by whatever three-letter agency is responsible for said investigation, with the FTC now fully aware of what the hell is or isn't going on there thanks to the hashtag #ASKFTC.

Thanks to TBF and BFL involving BitPay, it looks more and more like at least a hundred million dollars has been laundered via BTC from and to who-knows-where, with The Bitcoin Foundation smack in the middle of its happenings, hence formally requesting a full investigation.

We grunts on the ground have put in tremendous efforts to advance this beautiful invention. For what! I'll tell you for what. For sleazy bastards to line their pockets via a new form of currency under the auspices that the old form is bad, now putting a sleazy lawyer at the helm of the quasi-official voice of Bitcoin - The Bitcoin Foundation - to further advance said lining, all the while scratching their bald heads wondering why the fuck they're so disliked, having nary a clue.

All TBF had to do was show definitive proof that KnC Miner did indeed pay the $100K USD fee to become a Platinum Member of TBF the day before voting in new board members, but after today, plus five-months-plus of asking - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=621770.0 - the issue is no closer to being resolved than when it was first addressed. No wonder most the venerable bitcoiners have distanced themselves from TBF, for they know firsthand that something extremely is amiss at Camp TBF.

With that, I'm going to ask one motherfuckin' more time before I go full-ballistic on the various boards: Where's the fuckin' media articles on this travesty, already late to the game going on six months now?

~Bruno Kucinskas

It is high time for some accountability.  Give them hell.  All of us benefit from outing the cheats.  KnC is a nightmare for the bitcoin community.  They need to be held to account.  We are all pulling for you Bruno - keep up the good work.

Thanks, bud. BTW, did it read like I was truly pissed?

Proof, that Patrick Murck signed off after realizing that he no longer controlled his little fuckin' softball game.

http://s24.postimg.org/hg9zmu7d1/image.jpg

But not before posting a link to a Conan video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vd19SboRhVY

http://s30.postimg.org/dm98l3g5d/Conan.jpg

This motherfucker is so far removed from reality, his sleazy ass should be immediately removed from The Bitcoin Foundation, for it's clearly seen that he's doing everything in his power to NOT change course after hitting rocks after rocks after rocks... With today's action being the final straw that broke its motherfuckin' bow (or is it stern?).

~Bruno Kucinskas

#ASKFTC

http://s29.postimg.org/a5wyadt6v/Twitter_TBF.jpg

https://twitter.com/jgarzik/status/530049767578279936

Well, ain't that motherfuckin' special!

You want to hide $100K USD from us, no motherfuckin' problem. Hide it from us all you want. But, as any motherfuckin' lawyer worth his salt should be well-aware is that there's some entities you will having trouble hiding $100K USD from.

For shits and giggles, here's my favorite hashtag - AGAIN!: #ASKFTC

Just so you know, BitPay's systems don't give txid's to their clients.  You a probably asking for something they don't have.

If you do a bit of research you can find what information is given by BitPay's api here;-

https://bitpay.com/api

or maybe they all just work together..

To what end?  I would seriously like to know, at the moment this just seems like a pointless accusation.

I'm taking about the bitcoin wallet address that was used by KnC Miner to send $100K USD worth of BTC to The Bitcoin Foundation via BitPay. TBF provided a singular BWA depicting ALL the monies they receive(d) for transparency purposes, but that BWA DID NOT increase $100K USD worth of BTC prior to nor since KnC Miner supposedly became a Platinum Member of TBF.

That's what The Bitcoin Foundation has been avoiding to show proof of since day one it was formally requested by literally hundred-plus bitcoiners, and today was the day that that issue was to be resolved by Patrick, but thanks to his infinite wisdom he opted to cease the AMA directly after the subject was brought up - by me - only barely addressing the concern. That was a 100% snakish act, hence calling them out as a scam until they prove such is not the case otherwise.

This motherfuckin' shit stops right here, right now! The fuckin' game is over, and every motherfucker not playing even my their self-imposed rules WILL BE FUCKIN' CALLED OUT!

I, among others, are fuckin' sick and tired of seeing the very people that we've bestowed trust in to come here and treat us like Goddamn assholes. Well, since I'm goin' to be treated like an asshole, I might as well play the part.

http://static.fjcdn.com/pictures/Reverse_a97bc3_894026.jpg

I get that.  What I am saying is that BitPay don't give that information to people who use their system, did you even check out how their system works before you asked?

That's unnecessarily vague, it makes me ask is it either

a) They have proof of the transaction but have decided not to share it. That would be a policy level decision to ignore the community, as such as it is represented by Gleb asking a pretty simple question. Why would they want to take such an opaque stance?

b) They don't have definite proof to offer, which in turn means
1) It didn't happen, the membership was never paid for and they ^^ are prepared to straight out lie about it
2) It did happen, but they can't provide proof because there is none to provide? If Bitpay can't or won't provide that info, is there any other way it could be done satisfactorily?




  

Does TBF USA have one address where they accept all membership payments? Do they make public all donations and payments' (aside from the KNC Miner payment) addresses? If so can someone please post those addresses please.
Peace

No,  they process all of their due's using bitpay.  Bitpay tell their clients if the bill has been paid and gives over the money/bitcoin.

https://blockchain.info/address/1BTCorgHwCg6u2YSAWKgS17qUad6kHmtQW

I thought TBF only accepted donations in BTC? Then why the bitpay?

While they only accept bitcoins in payment they also do need fiat, bitpay is a convenient way of taking bitcoins and getting cash or bitcoins of both.

If KnC used Bitpay, shouldn't BitPay have sent dollars to the Foundation, rather than bitcoin?  (But TBF promised to take only bitcoins, didn't they?)

Could it be that KnC paid the invoice "timely" well after the election?

Using bitpay enables the to only take bitcoin and receive the funds in whatever currency they choose.  They only accept bitcoins but they still need fiat.


What are you insinuating?  That KnC miner paid the fee for voting rights in the industry board election?  That is not an exactly shocking revelation, that is why organisations pay their fees.  You will find it on the website.

https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8654/15536106258_bc742d1c86_z.jpg

Sure they did, just like KnC promised to not mine, thus looking out for their customer base, TBF promised to ONLY accept BTC, till they took a gander at somebody else's playbook that is.

At 54 years old, I may have turned into a kook, but I can still motherefuckin' see, and that looks like to me they NOW accept credit cards. Fuck, these bastards could be the foundation for some bartering entity but accept credit cards to help fill their coffer so that they can better advance the movement of how bartering oppose to credit card transactions will benefit the world.  ::)

But what is the sense and point of saying "we only accept bitcoin" if they use Bitpay?  To accept bitcoin they don't need BitPay.  If they use BitPay they receive dollars, not bitcoins.  No?

It would make sense if they received bitcoins from members and THEN used BitPay to pay their expenses.


I wonder whether thay paid the fee (if they did) before or after they voted as Platinum Member.

A possible another reason they waiting till the final hour to disclosed exactly when KnC paid, if they did, so that they'll have plenty of time to pen the legalese disclaimer as to why such-and-such occurred as it did.

Can't these motherfuckers even see how this issue ONLY is tearing them apart, and it's been going on for over five months now.

Today's AMA was billed as..............

I"M SO GODDAMNED PISSED NOW I CAN"T THINK STRAIGHT AND OPTED TO LOCK THE CAPS TO PEN MY SENTIMENT>

Honest question here.

What exactly is the problem with KnC paying to be come a platinum member?  If there was a point to this line of questioning I might even agree with you.

The problem would be if they DIDN'T pay.

Why would ANYONE say they received $100,000 when they had not? 

because they wanted their friend to vote for them - but their friend didn't want to give the money.  KnC voted for Brock Pierce but they didn't have the right to vote because they didn't pay the membership fee.  Brock would never have been on the board without KnC's fake vote.  The board doesn't want you to know the vote was rigged by  KnC, so they say they paid.  But they didn't.

Just more scammy bullshit fucking up the bitcoin community.  

I just clicked the quote button to pen virtually the same thing but was met by your post. Thanks, bud. Instead I'll pen that post that'll take us down a rabbit hole. Stay tuned.

KnC should burn in hell.  They are fucking thieves and assholes.  I hate the fuckers.  I hope you put loads of pressure on them.  they don't mind fucking their neighbors - typical European business.  KnC and Sam Cole are fucked up people who ripped off so many people.  Bring the heat. 

Why not pay for the $250 lifetime membership instead?  It is not like being a platinum member gets you any more votes or anything.  It makes no sense.

Only industry members vote for new board members.   Your 250 buys you no vote at all.
I think you get a pretty little card for $250 - or something like that.  Nothing else. 

Nope, members both nominate and vote;-

https://bitcoinfoundation.org/about/governance-election/

Both are wrong.  Industry members vote for industry board members, individual members vote for individual-representing board members.

Actually the "individual-representing board members" seem to be industry reps masquerading, but that's a separate issue.

True, but they were taking about Brock's appointment so I was addressing governance elections.  I did not think to address all of the other elections that they were not mentioning (the have elections for everything it seems).

Don't visit this page if you're easily pissed off: http://bitgivefoundation.org/about-us/

I can easily trace where the biggest chunk of BTC stemming from 1PEoUKNxTZsc5rFSQvQjeTVwDE9vEDCRWm came from then went back to via http://www.walletexplorer.com/address/1PEoUKNxTZsc5rFSQvQjeTVwDE9vEDCRWm

This is just so fuckin' nuts!

Sigh...

Given up on KNC and TBF?  Now your accusing BitGive Foundation of something?  I had never heard of them before, what did they do?

You know what else he didn't post in his replies? His birth certificate! I'm starting to notice a pattern, guys!

KnC could easily provide that Tx-ID if Bitpay is not cooperating.
The question here is, why wouldn't they want to prove it?
The only explanation I see is, they can't  proof it, because it never happened. Do you know any other good explanation?

BitPay or KnC doesn't have to show us anything, for the onus is squarely on TBF to supply us the bitcoin wallet address use. If my $25 via BTC can be witnessed by all, so can KnC's $100K USD via BTC from a non-profit espousing full disclosure.

It's been over five fuckin' months now, and not one Goddamn peep outta them till the AMA yesterday that virtually offered up nada as well, ergo The Bitcoin Foundation can not be trusted any longer, and what I'm claiming they did is 100% criminal, and that fuckin' lawyer now at the helm knows Goddamn well it is, as do all the bitcoiners that left ranks recently knowing full well that they have to distant themselves from the upcoming storm.

What Patrick did yesterday was in essence said fuck you and the horse you rode in on, for he's not answering to the ilks of me, and that he and the following women on TBF don't mind one iota having their careers and family destroyed: Elizabeth Ploshay; Jodie Brady; Helen Disney; Jinyoung Lee Englund; Emily Ku; Jody Tief. https://bitcoinfoundation.org/about/overview/

A few days ago TBF released a press release announcing the upcoming AMA. During the AMA we witness a softball game. After the first hard question that was asked - by me - Patrick Murck couldn't get offline fast enough, leaving the scene after linking to a Conan video mocking Satoshi. What the fuck even went through his sorry ass' mind?

~Bruno Kucinskas

IIRC, ordinary members were not consulted in Brock's election, were they?  It seems that his election was an unwelcome surprise to many.

If you notice a red flag, step away from it.

Come on, to what end? Well start with hiring lobyists, enter the wonderful world of corrupted politicians, and then opt for some forks and blockchain hold up to make sure bitcoin stays undrr control..
21million limit? Nahh. Increase Blocksize? Sure. Sidechains? Hell yea..
And here we go again, with an exceptional innovation totally rigged by those same greedy bastards.

Whats 100k when you can infiltrate the centralized org that leads it? Peanuts.  

FFS they even dont care about paedophiles..

In the case of a fork that is caused by political concern,  bitcoin will be branched into Democratic-bitcoin and Republic-bitcoin, merchants use whatever chain they prefer, while miners will mine on both chains I guess (?)  ;D ;D

Now that's one helluva a stretch, for even I would be hard-pressed to imply that politicians are made up chiefly of lawyers and that The Bitcoin Foundation has an office in DC at some lawyer's place of business that's in the pockets of fellow politicians, I mean lawyers.

http://www.followthecoin.com/biggest-news-vegas-bitcoin-week-overstock-coms-ceo-announces-partnership-perkins-coie-llp-counterparty-work-decentralized-stock-exchange-based-bitcoins-blockchain-protocol/


https://bitcoin4.bitcoinfoundation.org/static/2014/05/Bitcoin-2013-990-PDC.pdf

http://s23.postimg.org/6jvmulgaz/tbf_irs.jpg

http://americansforprosperity.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/Peters_letter.pdf

http://s30.postimg.org/g78m50mwx/coie.jpg

Note the 700 Thirteenth Street, NW, Suite 600 Washington address.

See, what'd I tell you? No connection whatsoever. Luckily, I hadn't found a connection between Pekins Coie Chicago address and Sunlot/Silk Road/House of Blues/Flip address a couple blocks away - yet! Or, the new Bitcoin ABM conveniently located between both addresses, all three locations within walking distance from one another. But, like I said, it's a stretch, like a limo used to haul some dude that can easily get an audience with the major of Chicago in the morning and the Governor of Illinois in the afternoon. It's a stretch!

#ASKFTC <I know, you guys won't touch this with a ten-foot pole, but at least it's on record that you've been informed.>

^^^ ^^^

It's a shared office, and yes they both have common counsel.


Vote for Cody FYI if you are foolish enough to still be a member

https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/cody-wilson-plans-destroy-bitcoin-foundation/

Hell, I'm toying with running myself to fell the second seat, echoing Cody's same platform. Ironically, I believe we both can win.

is it unprecedented for an industry member to pay their fee to the foundation by other means than sending to the public address?

Nope, membership fees are done via bitpay.

Hatter's gonna hate.  I thing Patrick will make a big difference as ED of TBCF.   Now he just need to get rid of the rest of the skeevy characters on the board.

Yep, and he set a good example of that leadership by brushing off a very important issue that's been pressing for over five months now. He's has my vote. Now, if you'll excuse me, I want to rewatch the Conan video he so kindly linked to in his AMA on Reddit. Fuckin' genius!

Charlie Shrem above; Patrick Murck below:

http://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-foundations-new-head-patrick-murck-outlines-future-plans/



Patrick Murck sure the hell succeeded.

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2ldjk7/hello_rbitcoin_im_patrick_murck_executive/cltw513

In my opinion the Bitcoin Foundation is slightly rotten.  Also, don't forget that Gavin is a big part of the foundation as well.  (and I would think is very aware of the shenanigans that go on there.)  When I found out that Gavin was being paid a $200,000 dollar salary, and that Lindsay (secretary or something like that) was paid $167,000...That never has sit well with me.

Bruno Kucinskas will run for TBF board seat, running on Cody Wilson's platform. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=850410)

The non profit bitcoin organization environment is interesting.  I want to make everyone aware of another group, the Global Bitcoin Alliance.  I have been involved there for about 3 months now, and they are organized in a way that everyone would expect.  Completely grass roots, not requirements to join except participation.  A goal to spread bitcoin and educate people about cryptocurrencies.  Focus is more local than global and the organization only exists to open lines of communication and to help people and groups who need it.  
http://www.global-bitcoin-alliance.org/
This group is not top down organized and no money is involved.  Started by the group out of Israel, who by the way decided not to join the BF.

Just throwing it out there.

Edited and web link corrected.  Sorry about that.

I don't think I understand the reason for the air of importance this issue is being given. What's the relevance? The fact that KNC is a member of TBF at all after clearly turning to the dark side and becoming outright scammers is itself an indictment of the group of posers behind "TBF".

They wanted 100% of the affiliate money if they joined the farce, meaning that the BF couldn't make anything off of them.   Smart choice.

Thanks for the link.

The Patrick Murck speaketh, with is legalese speakish:

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2ldjk7/hello_rbitcoin_im_patrick_murck_executive/clvjgbw


This fuckin' crazy ass lawyer actually tries to turn the motherfuckin' tables on the issue via painting the messenger - me - as a Looney Tune.

http://www.themoviethemesong.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/Looney-Tunes-Theme-Song-10.jpg

http://s1.postimg.org/fwhxssdv3/btcor.jpg

So, it's okay to publicly reveal the over 800 donators and members who've paid via 5877+ BTC here 1BTCorgHwCg6u2YSAWKgS17qUad6kHmtQW (https://blockchain.info/address/1BTCorgHwCg6u2YSAWKgS17qUad6kHmtQW), but not the ONE most important publicly broadcast via myriad press releases transaction that has been pressing for for over five months now because I, a kook, and NO OTHERS, have made it a moot issue in your fuckin' eyes.

Sorry, but that duck (pun?) won't hunt, for I will now disclose some shit about this fuckin' Patrick Murck that I have kept secret for a while now, but thanks to now knowing exactly what sort of prick we are truly dealing with here, I'm going on record right here, right now, and declare the following:

Several years ago, our venerable Patrick Murck was accused of not one, not two, now three, but...wait for it...27 counts of pedophilia. To be clear, child rape, all involving very young girls, some not even in their teens at the time, at <redacted for now>.

Patrick Murck, if you don't want desire said information to be broadcast further, along with how your sorry ass was able to buy your way out of being fully prosecuted, then I suggest you step down, resigning your position at The Bitcoin Foundation within 48 hours.

If, after 48 hours your are still in place, I will release all I have to the media, thus destroying whatever career you may now enjoy.

If you feel that I am lying, and that I am now blackmailing you, of which may be the case, then by all means you are in your right to sue my ass, with I giving you permission to do such, mailing such papers to the address found here: https://c4.staticflickr.com/4/3949/15525595460_4eaefed8f5_c.jpg

Your call, Patrick Murck, seeing if you truly want this can o' worms opened, exposing your fuckin' ass to the nth degree, for that's exactly what I WILL do if you do not step aside, for I have nothing to lose and can easily, very motherfuckin' easily, back up what I just accused you of.

How do you like this crazy ass kook now, you son of a bitch?

~Bruno Kucinskas

^rofl

http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/2011/05/MichealJacksonPopcorn.gif

Just to let Patrick Murck know that I'm holding the goods, this...

http://www.raisingarizonakids.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/girl-scout-tile.gif

He'll know exactly what it means.

Now, all he has to do is step aside before this issue truly blows up in his face, for I'm not bluffing!

~Bruno Kucinskas

I am locking this thread, with the reason found here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=851373.msg9483756#msg9483756