Patrick Murck plays softball with AMA on Reddit not fully addressing KnC issue!

[MineForeman.com]

If KnC used Bitpay, shouldn't BitPay have sent dollars to the Foundation, rather than bitcoin?  (But TBF promised to take only bitcoins, didn't they?)

Using bitpay enables the to only take bitcoin and receive the funds in whatever currency they choose.  They only accept bitcoins but they still need fiat.

Could it be that KnC paid the invoice "timely" well after the election?

What are you insinuating?  That KnC miner paid the fee for voting rights in the industry board election?  That is not an exactly shocking revelation, that is why organisations pay their fees.  You will find it on the website.

A possible another reason they waiting till the final hour to disclosed exactly when KnC paid, if they did, so that they'll have plenty of time to pen the legalese disclaimer as to why such-and-such occurred as it did.

Can't these motherfuckers even see how this issue ONLY is tearing them apart, and it's been going on for over five months now.

Today's AMA was billed as..............

I"M SO GODDAMNED PISSED NOW I CAN"T THINK STRAIGHT AND OPTED TO LOCK THE CAPS TO PEN MY SENTIMENT>

Honest question here.

What exactly is the problem with KnC paying to be come a platinum member?  If there was a point to this line of questioning I might even agree with you.

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[JorgeStolfi]

What exactly is the problem with KnC paying to be come a platinum member?  If there was a point to this line of questioning I might even agree with you.

The problem would be if they DIDN'T pay.

[MineForeman.com]

What exactly is the problem with KnC paying to be come a platinum member?  If there was a point to this line of questioning I might even agree with you.

The problem would be if they DIDN'T pay.

Why would ANYONE say they received $100,000 when they had not? 

[TKeenan]

What exactly is the problem with KnC paying to be come a platinum member?  If there was a point to this line of questioning I might even agree with you.

The problem would be if they DIDN'T pay.

Why would ANYONE say they received $100,000 when they had not?  

because they wanted their friend to vote for them - but their friend didn't want to give the money.  KnC voted for Brock Pierce but they didn't have the right to vote because they didn't pay the membership fee.  Brock would never have been on the board without KnC's fake vote.  The board doesn't want you to know the vote was rigged by  KnC, so they say they paid.  But they didn't.

Just more scammy bullshit fucking up the bitcoin community.  

[Gleb Gamow]

What exactly is the problem with KnC paying to be come a platinum member?  If there was a point to this line of questioning I might even agree with you.

The problem would be if they DIDN'T pay.

Why would ANYONE say they received $100,000 when they had not?  

because they wanted their friend to vote for them - but their friend didn't want to give the money.  KnC voted for Brock Pierce but they didn't have the right to vote because they didn't pay the membership fee.  Brock would never have been on the board without KnC's fake vote.

I just clicked the quote button to pen virtually the same thing but was met by your post. Thanks, bud. Instead I'll pen that post that'll take us down a rabbit hole. Stay tuned.

[TKeenan]

What exactly is the problem with KnC paying to be come a platinum member?  If there was a point to this line of questioning I might even agree with you.

The problem would be if they DIDN'T pay.

Why would ANYONE say they received $100,000 when they had not?  

because they wanted their friend to vote for them - but their friend didn't want to give the money.  KnC voted for Brock Pierce but they didn't have the right to vote because they didn't pay the membership fee.  Brock would never have been on the board without KnC's fake vote.

I just clicked the quote button to pen virtually the same thing but was met by your post. Thanks, bud. Instead I'll pen that post that'll take us down a rabbit hole. Stay tuned.

KnC should burn in hell.  They are fucking thieves and assholes.  I hate the fuckers.  I hope you put loads of pressure on them.  they don't mind fucking their neighbors - typical European business.  KnC and Sam Cole are fucked up people who ripped off so many people.  Bring the heat. 

[MineForeman.com]

What exactly is the problem with KnC paying to be come a platinum member?  If there was a point to this line of questioning I might even agree with you.

The problem would be if they DIDN'T pay.

Why would ANYONE say they received $100,000 when they had not? 

because they wanted their friend to vote for them - but their friend didn't want to give the money.  KnC voted for Brock Pierce but they didn't have the right to vote because they didn't pay the membership fee.  Brock would never have been on the board without KnC's fake vote.

I just clicked the quote button to pen virtually the same thing but was met by your post. Thanks, bud. Instead I'll pen that post that'll take us down a rabbit hole. Stay tuned.

Why not pay for the $250 lifetime membership instead?  It is not like being a platinum member gets you any more votes or anything.  It makes no sense.

[TKeenan]

What exactly is the problem with KnC paying to be come a platinum member?  If there was a point to this line of questioning I might even agree with you.

The problem would be if they DIDN'T pay.

Why would ANYONE say they received $100,000 when they had not?  

because they wanted their friend to vote for them - but their friend didn't want to give the money.  KnC voted for Brock Pierce but they didn't have the right to vote because they didn't pay the membership fee.  Brock would never have been on the board without KnC's fake vote.

I just clicked the quote button to pen virtually the same thing but was met by your post. Thanks, bud. Instead I'll pen that post that'll take us down a rabbit hole. Stay tuned.

Why not pay for the $250 lifetime membership instead?  It is not like being a platinum member gets you any more votes or anything.  It makes no sense.

Only industry members vote for new board members.   Your 250 buys you no vote at all.
I think you get a pretty little card for $250 - or something like that.  Nothing else. 

[MineForeman.com]

Only industry members vote for new board members.   Your 250 buys you no vote at all.
I think you get a pretty little card for $250 - or something like that.  Nothing else. 

Nope, members both nominate and vote;-

https://bitcoinfoundation.org/about/governance-election/

[Spendulus]

Only industry members vote for new board members.   Your 250 buys you no vote at all.
I think you get a pretty little card for $250 - or something like that.  Nothing else. 

Nope, members both nominate and vote;-

https://bitcoinfoundation.org/about/governance-election/

Both are wrong.  Industry members vote for industry board members, individual members vote for individual-representing board members.

Actually the "individual-representing board members" seem to be industry reps masquerading, but that's a separate issue.

[MineForeman.com]

Only industry members vote for new board members.   Your 250 buys you no vote at all.
I think you get a pretty little card for $250 - or something like that.  Nothing else. 

Nope, members both nominate and vote;-

https://bitcoinfoundation.org/about/governance-election/

Both are wrong.  Industry members vote for industry board members, individual members vote for individual-representing board members.

Actually the "individual-representing board members" seem to be industry reps masquerading, but that's a separate issue.

True, but they were taking about Brock's appointment so I was addressing governance elections.  I did not think to address all of the other elections that they were not mentioning (the have elections for everything it seems).

[Gleb Gamow]

Don't visit this page if you're easily pissed off: http://bitgivefoundation.org/about-us/

I can easily trace where the biggest chunk of BTC stemming from 1PEoUKNxTZsc5rFSQvQjeTVwDE9vEDCRWm came from then went back to via http://www.walletexplorer.com/address/1PEoUKNxTZsc5rFSQvQjeTVwDE9vEDCRWm

This is just so fuckin' nuts!

[MineForeman.com]

Don't visit this page if you're easily pissed off: http://bitgivefoundation.org/about-us/

I can easily trace where the biggest chunk of BTC stemming from 1PEoUKNxTZsc5rFSQvQjeTVwDE9vEDCRWm came from then went back to via http://www.walletexplorer.com/address/1PEoUKNxTZsc5rFSQvQjeTVwDE9vEDCRWm

This is just so fuckin' nuts!

Sigh...

Given up on KNC and TBF?  Now your accusing BitGive Foundation of something?  I had never heard of them before, what did they do?

[Maged]

You know what else he didn't post in his replies? His birth certificate! I'm starting to notice a pattern, guys!

[turvarya]

Does TBF USA have one address where they accept all membership payments? Do they make public all donations and payments' (aside from the KNC Miner payment) addresses? If so can someone please post those addresses please.
Peace

No,  they process all of their due's using bitpay.  Bitpay tell their clients if the bill has been paid and gives over the money/bitcoin.

KnC could easily provide that Tx-ID if Bitpay is not cooperating.
The question here is, why wouldn't they want to prove it?
The only explanation I see is, they can't  proof it, because it never happened. Do you know any other good explanation?

[Gleb Gamow]

Does TBF USA have one address where they accept all membership payments? Do they make public all donations and payments' (aside from the KNC Miner payment) addresses? If so can someone please post those addresses please.
Peace

No,  they process all of their due's using bitpay.  Bitpay tell their clients if the bill has been paid and gives over the money/bitcoin.

KnC could easily provide that Tx-ID if Bitpay is not cooperating.
The question here is, why wouldn't they want to prove it?
The only explanation I see is, they can't  proof it, because it never happened. Do you know any other good explanation?

BitPay or KnC doesn't have to show us anything, for the onus is squarely on TBF to supply us the bitcoin wallet address use. If my $25 via BTC can be witnessed by all, so can KnC's $100K USD via BTC from a non-profit espousing full disclosure.

It's been over five fuckin' months now, and not one Goddamn peep outta them till the AMA yesterday that virtually offered up nada as well, ergo The Bitcoin Foundation can not be trusted any longer, and what I'm claiming they did is 100% criminal, and that fuckin' lawyer now at the helm knows Goddamn well it is, as do all the bitcoiners that left ranks recently knowing full well that they have to distant themselves from the upcoming storm.

What Patrick did yesterday was in essence said fuck you and the horse you rode in on, for he's not answering to the ilks of me, and that he and the following women on TBF don't mind one iota having their careers and family destroyed: Elizabeth Ploshay; Jodie Brady; Helen Disney; Jinyoung Lee Englund; Emily Ku; Jody Tief. https://bitcoinfoundation.org/about/overview/

A few days ago TBF released a press release announcing the upcoming AMA. During the AMA we witness a softball game. After the first hard question that was asked - by me - Patrick Murck couldn't get offline fast enough, leaving the scene after linking to a Conan video mocking Satoshi. What the fuck even went through his sorry ass' mind?

~Bruno Kucinskas

[JorgeStolfi]

Actually the "individual-representing board members" seem to be industry reps masquerading, but that's a separate issue.

True, but they were taking about Brock's appointment so I was addressing governance elections.

IIRC, ordinary members were not consulted in Brock's election, were they?  It seems that his election was an unwelcome surprise to many.

[RICHBOSS]

You know what else he didn't post in his replies? His birth certificate! I'm starting to notice a pattern, guys!

If you notice a red flag, step away from it.

[hdbuck]

But, as any motherfuckin' lawyer worth his salt should be well-aware is that there's some entities you will having trouble hiding $100K USD from.

or maybe they all just work together..

To what end?  I would seriously like to know, at the moment this just seems like a pointless accusation.

Come on, to what end? Well start with hiring lobyists, enter the wonderful world of corrupted politicians, and then opt for some forks and blockchain hold up to make sure bitcoin stays undrr control..
21million limit? Nahh. Increase Blocksize? Sure. Sidechains? Hell yea..
And here we go again, with an exceptional innovation totally rigged by those same greedy bastards.

Whats 100k when you can infiltrate the centralized org that leads it? Peanuts.  

FFS they even dont care about paedophiles..

[johnyj]

In the case of a fork that is caused by political concern,  bitcoin will be branched into Democratic-bitcoin and Republic-bitcoin, merchants use whatever chain they prefer, while miners will mine on both chains I guess (?)