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Title: "The Hive" a $14,000usd Bitcoin Art Piece
Post by: WoodCollector on November 19, 2014, 04:45:15 AM
https://i.imgur.com/PfIDMSD.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/nGUz6A9.jpg

Commissioned by: Blazedout419 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=134378)
Material: Premiere grade quilted Watermelon Ivory (A rare form of Pink Ivory (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pink_Ivory))
Price: $14,000 usd

The Hive is a representation of the hive mind (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hive_mind) that drives Bitcoin and its great communities and is hand carved into one of the the most expensive and rare woods on the planet. Pink Ivory wood is listed on the top 10 most expensive woods in the world (http://www.mostexpensivelist.com/top-10-most-expensive-wood-in-the-world/) and Watermelon Ivory is an ultra rare form of Pink Ivory which is no longer listed or classified as it only grows naturally and 99.99% of the time only in trees exceeding 500 years of age. Pink Ivory trees are protected and thus only allowed to be harvest if they are commercially grown directly for harvest which eliminates access to Watermelon Ivory all together unless the tree was fell prior to its listing on the protected list.

A special thanks to Blazedout419 as without his commissioning me to create this great piece this luxurious and beautiful wood would have probably been turned into some rich snobs cigar box or his wife's jewelry box.


Title: Re: "The Hive" a $14,000usd Bitcoin Art Piece
Post by: lyth0s on November 19, 2014, 04:50:52 AM
Blazedout bought it for $14,000?


Title: Re: "The Hive" a $14,000usd Bitcoin Art Piece
Post by: freedomno1 on November 19, 2014, 04:53:29 AM
Blazedout bought it for $14,000?

Well it is considered Royal Wood
Guess he was pimping it out pretending to be royalty (but not put to death xd)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pink_Ivory
Pink Ivory was the royal tree of the Zulu People and only members of the royal family were allowed to possess it until the Anglo-Zulu War of 1879. Before the Anglo-Zulu War, the Zulu king (and prior to 1818, Zulu chiefs) would possess a pink ivory knob kerry, a stick with one end a knob, and wear jewelry that were also made from pink ivory. According to rumor, non-royals who possessed the wood would summarily be put to death. After Zululand fell to the British and was separated into 13 separate "kinglets" 1883, all vying to retake control of what was once theirs precedent to the onset of apartheid, the pink ivory wood became much less important a sign of control than genuine control could be.


Title: Re: "The Hive" a $14,000usd Bitcoin Art Piece
Post by: Blazed on November 19, 2014, 05:35:11 AM
I am very excited to get this piece. I have not decided on how to keep it though..in a fancy display case or just hang it on the wall? I guess I will decide once it arrives!


Title: Re: "The Hive" a $14,000usd Bitcoin Art Piece
Post by: lyth0s on November 19, 2014, 05:50:22 AM
I am very excited to get this piece. I have not decided on how to keep it though..in a fancy display case or just hang it on the wall? I guess I will decide once it arrives!

I would have never guessed you are so Bit-Rich. Congratulations on such a rare wood turned into beautiful art!


Title: Re: "The Hive" a $14,000usd Bitcoin Art Piece
Post by: OmegaStarScream on November 19, 2014, 06:14:34 AM
Damn , it it beautiful :o but I would never spend that much money on such things like art piece etc.  ::)


Title: Re: "The Hive" a $14,000usd Bitcoin Art Piece
Post by: maddog0000 on November 19, 2014, 06:30:29 AM
Very nice work, Too bad it's out of my price range.


Title: Re: "The Hive" a $14,000usd Bitcoin Art Piece
Post by: redsn0w on November 19, 2014, 06:36:06 AM
It's very beatiful but (also) very expensive  ;D ,  #Blazedout419 enjoy it.


Title: Re: "The Hive" a $14,000usd Bitcoin Art Piece
Post by: Lethn on November 19, 2014, 07:43:20 AM
It was awesome seeing you guys work out those deals woodcollector, well done, not sure how I feel as an artist myself about the Bitcoin currency symbol being art though ;S lol I think it's a waste of good wood to be honest but at least he paid you well for the it. Being able to easily transfer money and import stuff that otherwise would be pretty difficult to do in other currencies is precisely what cryptocurrency was made for, I was wtfing when I saw some guy in africa offering to import rare wood for you.


Title: Re: "The Hive" a $14,000usd Bitcoin Art Piece
Post by: WoodCollector on November 19, 2014, 08:03:13 AM
It was awesome seeing you guys work out those deals woodcollector, well done, not sure how I feel as an artist myself about the Bitcoin currency symbol being art though ;S lol I think it's a waste of good wood to be honest but at least he paid you well for the it. Being able to easily transfer money and import stuff that otherwise would be pretty difficult to do in other currencies is precisely what cryptocurrency was made for.

It took a lot of thought process on how one could turn the Bitcoin symbol into art.

I agree that importing difficult stuff is exactly what Bitcoin is for. Over the past 2 weeks i have been able to import just shy of $17,000 worth of exotic woods from around the world. Now including what i think will be my favorite "flavor of the month" Pure African Blackwood and the seller was able to get me a good size chunk of it. It is for sure going on the lathe when it arrives next week. It is without a doubt 1000% easier to do with Bitcoin and buying direct from someone than it is to go through my normal brokers. I had no idea what to expect when i set out to buy exotic wood with bitcoin, and no idea i would get such a huge response. Not only that, so many orders for custom work for so many different things from this forum. I am fairly new to Bitcoin and had some reservations coming in, but i have to say I'm a Bitcoiner for life now. It felt good to tell my wood broker when he called me yesterday to see if i had my order for the week together yet, "I got it handled already, i had it shipped in directly from Africa, Brasil, Guam, Hawaii, Etc" and its all thanks to Bitcoin


Title: Re: "The Hive" a $14,000usd Bitcoin Art Piece
Post by: Lethn on November 19, 2014, 08:29:00 AM
Yeah :D There's this guy I chatted to a bit who buys gemstones in the Thailand market, so like you I'll probably come here first if I want anything particularly exotic so there's definitely a lot of potential here, oh and I spotted cuban cigars at one time though I don't know where that guy has gone.


Title: Re: "The Hive" a $14,000usd Bitcoin Art Piece
Post by: WoodCollector on November 19, 2014, 12:45:50 PM
Yeah :D There's this guy I chatted to a bit who buys gemstones in the Thailand market, so like you I'll probably come here first if I want anything particularly exotic so there's definitely a lot of potential here, oh and I spotted cuban cigars at one time though I don't know where that guy has gone.

I'd like to know where the Cuban cigar guy went. It's been a while since i had a good Cuban. I made a cigar tube and end punch for a client last year out of Amboyna Burl and when he came to pick it up he gave me a Cuban. Best 47 minutes of my year last year thats for sure, dying to get my hands on another.


Title: Re: "The Hive" a $14,000usd Bitcoin Art Piece
Post by: Lethn on November 19, 2014, 02:48:36 PM
Yeah :D There's this guy I chatted to a bit who buys gemstones in the Thailand market, so like you I'll probably come here first if I want anything particularly exotic so there's definitely a lot of potential here, oh and I spotted cuban cigars at one time though I don't know where that guy has gone.

I'd like to know where the Cuban cigar guy went. It's been a while since i had a good Cuban. I made a cigar tube and end punch for a client last year out of Amboyna Burl and when he came to pick it up he gave me a Cuban. Best 47 minutes of my year last year thats for sure, dying to get my hands on another.

Might be worth asking around :P always opportunities with Bitcoin :D


Title: Re: "The Hive" a $14,000usd Bitcoin Art Piece
Post by: allthingsluxury on November 19, 2014, 03:53:17 PM
I am very excited to get this piece. I have not decided on how to keep it though..in a fancy display case or just hang it on the wall? I guess I will decide once it arrives!

Congrats on your lovely piece of art! Enjoy  ;D


Title: Re: "The Hive" a $14,000usd Bitcoin Art Piece
Post by: MF Doom on November 19, 2014, 04:05:05 PM
I am very excited to get this piece. I have not decided on how to keep it though..in a fancy display case or just hang it on the wall? I guess I will decide once it arrives!

Either way you should post some pics with it up and on display with better lighting.  That thing is dope!


Title: Re: "The Hive" a $14,000usd Bitcoin Art Piece
Post by: Keyser Soze on November 19, 2014, 10:44:18 PM
Very nice piece, I am sure it looks much better in person too.


Yeah :D There's this guy I chatted to a bit who buys gemstones in the Thailand market, so like you I'll probably come here first if I want anything particularly exotic so there's definitely a lot of potential here, oh and I spotted cuban cigars at one time though I don't know where that guy has gone.

I'd like to know where the Cuban cigar guy went. It's been a while since i had a good Cuban. I made a cigar tube and end punch for a client last year out of Amboyna Burl and when he came to pick it up he gave me a Cuban. Best 47 minutes of my year last year thats for sure, dying to get my hands on another.
I've bought some from https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2834 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2834) in the past, but he doesn't seem to be very active anymore here. Couldn't hurt to pm him though.


Title: Re: "The Hive" a $14,000usd Bitcoin Art Piece
Post by: BayAreaCoins on November 19, 2014, 11:24:46 PM
I am very excited to get this piece. I have not decided on how to keep it though..in a fancy display case or just hang it on the wall? I guess I will decide once it arrives!

Hang that shit on the wall :D


Title: Re: "The Hive" a $14,000usd Bitcoin Art Piece
Post by: RoadStress on November 19, 2014, 11:34:51 PM
I am very excited to get this piece. I have not decided on how to keep it though..in a fancy display case or just hang it on the wall? I guess I will decide once it arrives!

Congrats! Looks damn nice.

OP please post a pic where we can see the real size of this thing. Thank you.


Title: Re: "The Hive" a $14,000usd Bitcoin Art Piece
Post by: Blazed on November 19, 2014, 11:37:31 PM
It should arrive soon...I will post some pictures for sure. I wanted to hang it by my signed BTC from Casascius, but it would make Mike's look silly.


Title: Re: "The Hive" a $14,000usd Bitcoin Art Piece
Post by: John (John K.) on November 20, 2014, 12:43:04 AM
Oh my god, that's so beautiful!


Title: Re: "The Hive" a $14,000usd Bitcoin Art Piece
Post by: WoodCollector on November 20, 2014, 02:28:26 PM
Oh my god, that's so beautiful!

Thanks john, i appreciate the kind words. I have been Commissioned by a few members on the forum to create a few more custom works, None quite as expensive as this one but still out of super exotic and rare hardwood's so there will be a few beautiful Bitcoin pieces floating around over the next few months. Some of them inherently strange including a Bitcoin Bong and a Bitcoin Dildo, but all will be beautiful works of art.


Title: Re: "The Hive" a $14,000usd Bitcoin Art Piece
Post by: cbeast on November 20, 2014, 03:26:45 PM
Etched?


Title: Re: "The Hive" a $14,000usd Bitcoin Art Piece
Post by: WoodCollector on November 20, 2014, 03:33:17 PM
Etched?

Carved with the edge of a 1/4" roughing gouge and a skew chisel.


Title: Re: "The Hive" a $14,000usd Bitcoin Art Piece
Post by: cbeast on November 20, 2014, 04:03:34 PM
Etched?

Carved with the edge of a 1/4" roughing gouge and a skew chisel.
I can't even imagine the attention you need to give to hand carving such a large and expensive piece of hardwood with that kind of precision.


Title: Re: "The Hive" a $14,000usd Bitcoin Art Piece
Post by: Ruthful on November 20, 2014, 04:09:49 PM
I am very excited to get this piece. I have not decided on how to keep it though..in a fancy display case or just hang it on the wall? I guess I will decide once it arrives!

What is the dimension/size of that thing?


Title: Re: "The Hive" a $14,000usd Bitcoin Art Piece
Post by: WoodCollector on November 20, 2014, 04:39:59 PM
I am very excited to get this piece. I have not decided on how to keep it though..in a fancy display case or just hang it on the wall? I guess I will decide once it arrives!

What is the dimension/size of that thing?

12" by about 9.25"
Etched?

Carved with the edge of a 1/4" roughing gouge and a skew chisel.
I can't even imagine the attention you need to give to hand carving such a large and expensive piece of hardwood with that kind of precision.

Me either, thats why i dont think about it or i would be terrified. Last year i messed up a $20,000 piece of Kauri that was carbon dated 52,000 years old because i was over thinking it.


Title: Re: "The Hive" a $14,000usd Bitcoin Art Piece
Post by: BiTJack on November 20, 2014, 06:02:45 PM
Wow astonishing, that's some beauty there for a bitcoin enthusiast. Congrats Blazedout419!  :)


Title: Re: "The Hive" a $14,000usd Bitcoin Art Piece
Post by: Erza on November 20, 2014, 06:04:50 PM
It...it was beautiful  :o
I wish I can touch it....


Title: Re: "The Hive" a $14,000usd Bitcoin Art Piece
Post by: Piston Honda on November 20, 2014, 08:37:31 PM
lol $14k huh?

i'll pass thanks!


Title: Re: "The Hive" a $14,000usd Bitcoin Art Piece
Post by: Blazed on November 21, 2014, 04:02:35 AM
It will arrive to me tomorrow! I will take some good pictures and decide how it will be displayed.


Title: Re: "The Hive" a $14,000usd Bitcoin Art Piece
Post by: Billbags on November 21, 2014, 03:16:31 PM
I am very excited to get this piece. I have not decided on how to keep it though..in a fancy display case or just hang it on the wall? I guess I will decide once it arrives!

I think in a shadow box with glass on front. I have a couple of signed guitars framed this way on my walls. I think it would look great....and protect your investment. I had a picture frame shop custom make mine, price wasn't that bad.


Title: Re: "The Hive" a $14,000usd Bitcoin Art Piece
Post by: oblivi on November 21, 2014, 04:15:04 PM
It will arrive to me tomorrow! I will take some good pictures and decide how it will be displayed.

You must be pretty damn rich man. How do you make so much money that you can afford this?


Title: Re: "The Hive" a $14,000usd Bitcoin Art Piece
Post by: philiveyjr on November 21, 2014, 09:12:09 PM
I am very excited to get this piece. I have not decided on how to keep it though..in a fancy display case or just hang it on the wall? I guess I will decide once it arrives!

Put it in a display case... It will keep the wood protected...n u can probably put it anywhere u like... even in the bathroom..lol..!! I think the case would easily be a better option than hanging it on the wall.!


Title: Re: "The Hive" a $14,000usd Bitcoin Art Piece
Post by: Febo on November 21, 2014, 11:54:00 PM
Blazedout bought it for $14,000?

Well it is considered Royal Wood
Guess he was pimping it out pretending to be royalty (but not put to death xd)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pink_Ivory
Pink Ivory was the royal tree of the Zulu People and only members of the royal family were allowed to possess it until the Anglo-Zulu War of 1879. Before the Anglo-Zulu War, the Zulu king (and prior to 1818, Zulu chiefs) would possess a pink ivory knob kerry, a stick with one end a knob, and wear jewelry that were also made from pink ivory. According to rumor, non-royals who possessed the wood would summarily be put to death. After Zululand fell to the British and was separated into 13 separate "kinglets" 1883, all vying to retake control of what was once theirs precedent to the onset of apartheid, the pink ivory wood became much less important a sign of control than genuine control could be.


So unless royal and you posses this wood you get cursed?



Title: Re: "The Hive" a $14,000usd Bitcoin Art Piece
Post by: WoodCollector on November 22, 2014, 12:11:36 AM
Blazedout bought it for $14,000?

Well it is considered Royal Wood
Guess he was pimping it out pretending to be royalty (but not put to death xd)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pink_Ivory
Pink Ivory was the royal tree of the Zulu People and only members of the royal family were allowed to possess it until the Anglo-Zulu War of 1879. Before the Anglo-Zulu War, the Zulu king (and prior to 1818, Zulu chiefs) would possess a pink ivory knob kerry, a stick with one end a knob, and wear jewelry that were also made from pink ivory. According to rumor, non-royals who possessed the wood would summarily be put to death. After Zululand fell to the British and was separated into 13 separate "kinglets" 1883, all vying to retake control of what was once theirs precedent to the onset of apartheid, the pink ivory wood became much less important a sign of control than genuine control could be.


So unless royal and you posses this wood you get cursed?



No if you read it carefully you find out they were killed for possessing this wood prior to the Anglo-Zulu war. The only people allowed to possess it were those of the royal family.


Title: Re: "The Hive" a $14,000usd Bitcoin Art Piece
Post by: WoodCollector on November 22, 2014, 09:56:58 PM
Delivered to Blazedout419 yesterday, cannot wait to see how he ends up displaying it. Will be posting a new piece commissioned by: ducatitalia tomorrow in its own thread.


Title: Re: "The Hive" a $14,000usd Bitcoin Art Piece
Post by: TheMage on November 22, 2014, 10:27:31 PM
What an unbelievably beautiful piece of art! Very big congrats Blazedout :)


Title: Re: "The Hive" a $14,000usd Bitcoin Art Piece
Post by: cryptworld on November 23, 2014, 12:55:47 AM
It will arrive to me tomorrow! I will take some good pictures and decide how it will be displayed.
I don't understand how you have 14k $ to spend in a piece and you participate in a signature campaign to earn  some  bucks


Title: Re: "The Hive" a $14,000usd Bitcoin Art Piece
Post by: WoodCollector on November 23, 2014, 01:10:25 AM
It will arrive to me tomorrow! I will take some good pictures and decide how it will be displayed.
I don't understand how you have 14k $ to spend in a piece and you participate in a signature campaign to earn  some  bucks

I just want to make sure i understand what your saying so please clarify. Are you saying that if you have enough money to buy something nice, that you should turn down an opportunity to make more money when it arises? So if i could afford to buy a $2,000 bottle of champagne but an opportunity came along  where i could make say $100 for doing next to nothing and it only takes me 10 minutes to do that i should say no because i can afford good champagne now and again?

That's not sarcasm or trolling just to be clear, i have never seen someone make such a statement and i am trying to better understand and enlighten myself. I dont know very many wealthy people who think with that logic and i would like to know where that thought process comes from.

Thanks  ;)


Title: Re: "The Hive" a $14,000usd Bitcoin Art Piece
Post by: MadZ on November 23, 2014, 02:18:01 AM
It will arrive to me tomorrow! I will take some good pictures and decide how it will be displayed.
I don't understand how you have 14k $ to spend in a piece and you participate in a signature campaign to earn  some  bucks

You don't reach a position to spend $14k on something by declining easy ways of making money. He would post on the forums anyway, so why not get paid.


Title: Re: "The Hive" a $14,000usd Bitcoin Art Piece
Post by: WoodCollector on November 23, 2014, 02:25:17 AM
It will arrive to me tomorrow! I will take some good pictures and decide how it will be displayed.
I don't understand how you have 14k $ to spend in a piece and you participate in a signature campaign to earn  some  bucks

You don't reach a position to spend $14k on something by declining easy ways of making money. He would post on the forums anyway, so why not get paid.

Thanks MadZ, i thought there was something i was missing that was lost in context or something when i read that but now i know i am not the only one who understood it that way. Much appreciated for not making me feel alone in interpreting that. +1 good sir


Title: Re: "The Hive" a $14,000usd Bitcoin Art Piece
Post by: WoodCollector on November 23, 2014, 03:16:29 AM
New piece completed for those of you whom are following my works.

Transcendence (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=868931) <--- Link


Title: Re: "The Hive" a $14,000usd Bitcoin Art Piece
Post by: Blazed on November 24, 2014, 01:50:52 AM
Pictured with "The Hive" is the BTC that is from pretty much every Casascius picture/video. The Orange BTC (Signed by Casascius) is what I told WoodCollector to base this on for size. I was going to hang The Hive next to it, but it would just make Mike's look bad lol.

The level of detail is just amazing!


https://i.imgur.com/xtTMwpa.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/rCmHvIr.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/nDBjjeQ.jpg



Title: Re: "The Hive" a $14,000usd Bitcoin Art Piece
Post by: megashira1 on November 24, 2014, 05:07:07 AM
This was a commissioned piece? How much profit did the artist make? What was the cost of the wood to begin with?


Title: Re: "The Hive" a $14,000usd Bitcoin Art Piece
Post by: TheMage on November 24, 2014, 05:20:32 AM
This was a commissioned piece? How much profit did the artist make? What was the cost of the wood to begin with?

Your answers are in the thread Mr post skipper :P.


Title: Re: "The Hive" a $14,000usd Bitcoin Art Piece
Post by: Blazed on November 24, 2014, 01:07:49 PM
The wood was not cheap due to it being extremely rare...plus the hours to hand carve. The price sounds really high, but this is an art piece, so I did not expect to land it for $100.00. If I had gone with a more common wood the price would have been dramatically lower.


Title: Re: "The Hive" a $14,000usd Bitcoin Art Piece
Post by: bigcrypto on November 24, 2014, 05:11:23 PM
Wow, it is incredibly cool and incredibly expensive  :o


Title: Re: "The Hive" a $14,000usd Bitcoin Art Piece
Post by: hennessyhemp on January 17, 2015, 06:57:27 PM
Admiring this made me think I should bump it.


Title: Re: "The Hive" a $14,000usd Bitcoin Art Piece
Post by: runpaint on January 17, 2015, 07:09:37 PM
There should be plenty left from the B-holes to make a cigar box or two.


Title: Re: "The Hive" a $14,000usd Bitcoin Art Piece
Post by: Aswan on January 17, 2015, 07:17:58 PM
Wow, if I was a klingon I'd buy it :D


Title: Re: "The Hive" a $14,000usd Bitcoin Art Piece
Post by: hennessyhemp on January 19, 2015, 12:10:51 AM
Pictured with "The Hive" is the BTC that is from pretty much every Casascius picture/video. The Orange BTC (Signed by Casascius) is what I told WoodCollector to base this on for size. I was going to hang The Hive next to it, but it would just make Mike's look bad lol.

I would display these side by side.  Mike's was clearly the inspiration, so the two pieces together tell a more complete story, one that is still unfolding.

Just my two bits.


Title: Re: "The Hive" a $14,000usd Bitcoin Art Piece
Post by: madmadmax on January 19, 2015, 01:32:52 AM
Not to be a downer but am I the only one who thinks this is complete crap? Some carved painted piece of wood for 14 fucking grant? Sounds like some dumb crap to me


Title: Re: "The Hive" a $14,000usd Bitcoin Art Piece
Post by: runpaint on January 19, 2015, 01:36:23 AM
Not to be a downer but am I the only one who thinks this is complete crap? Some craved painted piece of wood for 14 fucking grant? Sounds like some dumb crap to me

It's a $14,000 Bitcoin.  One day you'll call that cheap.


Title: Re: "The Hive" a $14,000usd Bitcoin Art Piece
Post by: madmadmax on January 19, 2015, 01:38:48 AM
Not to be a downer but am I the only one who thinks this is complete crap? Some craved painted piece of wood for 14 fucking grant? Sounds like some dumb crap to me

It's a $14,000 Bitcoin.  One day you'll call that cheap.

It's not even a satoshi, it's a worthless piece of wood, carve it up into a dildo and shove it up your wifes ass.


Title: Re: "The Hive" a $14,000usd Bitcoin Art Piece
Post by: runpaint on January 19, 2015, 01:42:09 AM
Make up your mind.  Is it worthless or can it be used as a valuable marital aid?


Title: Re: "The Hive" a $14,000usd Bitcoin Art Piece
Post by: madmadmax on January 19, 2015, 01:47:40 AM
Make up your mind.  Is it worthless or can it be used as a valuable marital aid?

It's valuable martial aid only if used as unintended by the author, one up the pooper the other up the vagaroo. I will gladly take the credit for this invention and would like to claim my 14k dead 'murican presidents now.


Title: Re: "The Hive" a $14,000usd Bitcoin Art Piece
Post by: michaeladair on January 19, 2015, 01:48:52 AM
Not to be a downer but am I the only one who thinks this is complete crap? Some craved painted piece of wood for 14 fucking grant? Sounds like some dumb crap to me

It's a $14,000 Bitcoin.  One day you'll call that cheap.

It's not even a satoshi, it's a worthless piece of wood, carve it up into a dildo and shove it up your wifes ass.

Dude you sound like a real asshole right now...


Title: Re: "The Hive" a $14,000usd Bitcoin Art Piece
Post by: WoodCollector on January 19, 2015, 01:50:06 AM
Not to be a downer but am I the only one who thinks this is complete crap? Some craved painted piece of wood for 14 fucking grant? Sounds like some dumb crap to me

Looks like we found a buttcoiner  ;)

It may help if you do a little reading first.

The wood is not painted, it is naturally watermelon red.
The wood is 3rd on the top most rarest wood on the planet thus VERY expensive.
The wood has the rare, watermelon deformity making it the rarest of the pink ivory species thus making in even more insanely expensive.
The wood by itself is 90% of the cost of the piece

and

Someone, ME, I, decided that such a rare and luxurious piece of wood should be made into something, an art piece, that represents bitcoin in its entirety.

Your not being a downer, everyone is entitled to their own opinion. Not everyone is sophisticated enough to understand and appreciate fine art. Some people would rather blow their money on video games until their brain was fried, others have the intelligence to appreciate the finer things in life.  

It is nothing more than an exercise in futility to try and make someone with less than average intelligence understand things that are common sense to educated and sophisticated people.


Title: Re: "The Hive" a $14,000usd Bitcoin Art Piece
Post by: WoodCollector on January 19, 2015, 01:52:34 AM
Not to be a downer but am I the only one who thinks this is complete crap? Some craved painted piece of wood for 14 fucking grant? Sounds like some dumb crap to me

It's a $14,000 Bitcoin.  One day you'll call that cheap.

It's not even a satoshi, it's a worthless piece of wood, carve it up into a dildo and shove it up your wifes ass.

Its been done (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=871618)

TWICE (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=896968)

Your wife was very pleased.


Title: Re: "The Hive" a $14,000usd Bitcoin Art Piece
Post by: ukcrypto on January 19, 2015, 01:52:56 AM
Not to be a downer but am I the only one who thinks this is complete crap? Some carved painted piece of wood for 14 fucking grant? Sounds like some dumb crap to me

You sound pretty ignorant - its a very rare wood, its been carved by a very talented guy. You need to educate yourself my friend. Some people pay millions for 'painted bits of wood' - seriously man, get a life!


Title: Re: "The Hive" a $14,000usd Bitcoin Art Piece
Post by: WoodCollector on January 19, 2015, 01:56:17 AM
Not to be a downer but am I the only one who thinks this is complete crap? Some carved painted piece of wood for 14 fucking grant? Sounds like some dumb crap to me

You sound pretty ignorant - its a very rare wood, its been carved by a very talented guy. You need to educate yourself my friend. Some people pay millions for 'painted bits of wood' - seriously man, get a life!

UKcrypto, i couldn't have said it better myself. thanks buddy


Title: Re: "The Hive" a $14,000usd Bitcoin Art Piece
Post by: ukcrypto on January 19, 2015, 02:01:07 AM
Not to be a downer but am I the only one who thinks this is complete crap? Some carved painted piece of wood for 14 fucking grant? Sounds like some dumb crap to me

You sound pretty ignorant - its a very rare wood, its been carved by a very talented guy. You need to educate yourself my friend. Some people pay millions for 'painted bits of wood' - seriously man, get a life!

UKcrypto, i couldn't have said it better myself. thanks buddy

Knowledge makes people humble....arrogance makes people ignorant.:)


Title: Re: "The Hive" a $14,000usd Bitcoin Art Piece
Post by: madmadmax on January 19, 2015, 02:03:07 AM
Not to be a downer but am I the only one who thinks this is complete crap? Some craved painted piece of wood for 14 fucking grant? Sounds like some dumb crap to me

Looks like we found a buttcoiner  ;)

It may help if you do a little reading first.

The wood is not painted, it is naturally watermelon red.
The wood is 3rd on the top most rarest wood on the planet thus VERY expensive.
The wood has the rare, watermelon deformity making it the rarest of the pink ivory species thus making in even more insanely expensive.
The wood by itself is 90% of the cost of the piece

and

Someone, ME, I, decided that such a rare and luxurious piece of wood should be made into something, an art piece, that represents bitcoin in its entirety.

Your not being a downer, everyone is entitled to their own opinion. Not everyone is sophisticated enough to understand and appreciate fine art. Some people would rather blow their money on video games until their brain was fried, others have the intelligence to appreciate the finer things in life.  

It is nothing more than an exercise in futility to try and make someone with less than average intelligence understand things that are common sense to educated and sophisticated people.

We are here on a public forum to express our opinions, my opinion is that it's a worthless piece of shit. How is it indicative of my intelligence or entitles you to condescend and generally be an unpleasant fart I shall never know.

Who cares if it's the 3rd rarest sea shell with the 3rd rarest blue spot, it's still a useless crap.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_dK_g_QLTB8w/S-GrG85tJ4I/AAAAAAAAABA/vjgaCOCdGF8/s1600/No+5+1948.jpg
Ahh, yes, we can see hints of the painters rough childhood at the bottom left strokes, the colors are clearly indicitive of his mixed sexual orientation and his sexual urges towards his mother, dem plebeians could never comprehend the sophistication! let me swirl my wine in my glass some more.
Meanwhile us normal people who aren't braindead pretentious faggot stoners are buying guns, cars and actual pieces of art.


Title: Re: "The Hive" a $14,000usd Bitcoin Art Piece
Post by: WoodCollector on January 19, 2015, 02:08:25 AM
I dont think we need to clutter the thread with your nonsense any more, your ratings and reviews on the forum speak for themselves. Thanks for stopping by and gracing us with your ignorance ;D, Have an unpleasant evening  ;)


Title: Re: "The Hive" a $14,000usd Bitcoin Art Piece
Post by: michaeladair on January 19, 2015, 02:13:19 AM
I dont think we need to clutter the thread with your nonsense any more, your ratings and reviews on the forum speak for themselves. Thanks for stopping by and gracing us with your ignorance ;D, Have an unpleasant evening  ;)

I love you wood collector...

Have an interrobang:

It's real, look it up xD... maybe use it for your next art piece.


Title: Re: "The Hive" a $14,000usd Bitcoin Art Piece
Post by: WoodCollector on January 19, 2015, 02:17:24 AM
I dont think we need to clutter the thread with your nonsense any more, your ratings and reviews on the forum speak for themselves. Thanks for stopping by and gracing us with your ignorance ;D, Have an unpleasant evening  ;)

I love you wood collector...

Have an interrobang:

It's real, look it up xD... maybe use it for your next art piece.

Awwwww Michael, you shouldn't have, how did you know that the interrobang is my favorite symbol / word to say. Thats so thoughtful! You sir just earned yourself a 5% discount on an art piece if you ever want something made in the future.

"‽"

I love it, i am going to hang it on my signature :)


Title: Re: "The Hive" a $14,000usd Bitcoin Art Piece
Post by: michaeladair on January 19, 2015, 02:19:05 AM
I dont think we need to clutter the thread with your nonsense any more, your ratings and reviews on the forum speak for themselves. Thanks for stopping by and gracing us with your ignorance ;D, Have an unpleasant evening  ;)

I love you wood collector...

Have an interrobang:

It's real, look it up xD... maybe use it for your next art piece.

Awwwww Michael, you shouldn't have, how did you know that the interrobang is my favorite symbol / word to say. Thats so thoughtful! You sir just earned yourself a 5% discount on an art piece if you ever want something made in the future.

"‽"

I love it, i am going to hang it on my signature :)

:P I happened to find out about Interrobangs, perusing the internet and whatnot and I fell in love.
Thank you for the discount! I'll be sure to use it!


Title: Re: "The Hive" a $14,000usd Bitcoin Art Piece
Post by: BigBitz on January 20, 2015, 12:45:50 PM
I sincerely hope you're going to refund Blazedout419 for this mockery.


Title: Re: "The Hive" a $14,000usd Bitcoin Art Piece
Post by: michaeladair on January 20, 2015, 12:46:51 PM
I sincerely hope you're going to refund Blazedout419 for this mockery.

You shouldn't go with the accusation till it is proven right.

Even still, the wood itself cost 90%


Title: Re: "The Hive" a $14,000usd Bitcoin Art Piece
Post by: BigBitz on January 20, 2015, 12:50:14 PM
I sincerely hope you're going to refund Blazedout419 for this mockery.

You shouldn't go with the accusation till it is proven right.

Even still, the wood itself cost 90%
The high cost associated with this piece is the wood, yes, I appreciate that, however it was sold in bad taste and under false pretense.


Title: Re: "The Hive" a $14,000usd Bitcoin Art Piece
Post by: michaeladair on January 20, 2015, 01:02:15 PM
I sincerely hope you're going to refund Blazedout419 for this mockery.

You shouldn't go with the accusation till it is proven right.

Even still, the wood itself cost 90%
The high cost associated with this piece is the wood, yes, I appreciate that, however it was sold in bad taste and under false pretense.
You believe it was...


Title: Re: "The Hive" a $14,000usd Bitcoin Art Piece
Post by: erwin45hacked on January 20, 2015, 01:11:48 PM
I sincerely hope you're going to refund Blazedout419 for this mockery.

You shouldn't go with the accusation till it is proven right.

Even still, the wood itself cost 90%
The high cost associated with this piece is the wood, yes, I appreciate that, however it was sold in bad taste and under false pretense.


the hive that was commisioned by Blazedout419 and the one posted in scam accusation are different piece


Title: Re: "The Hive" a $14,000usd Bitcoin Art Piece
Post by: bluemountain on January 20, 2015, 01:43:39 PM
This is a beautiful art piece but is it made from animal ivory? If so people need to realise that these animals are going extinct because of animal killings


Title: Re: "The Hive" a $14,000usd Bitcoin Art Piece
Post by: runpaint on January 20, 2015, 02:10:07 PM
This is a beautiful art piece but is it made from animal ivory? If so people need to realise that these animals are going extinct because of animal killings

Elephants were going extinct because of government regulations.  Now that private citizens are allowed to own elephants, breed them and sell them for their skin and ivory, the elephant populations are booming.  

The same would probably apply to the material that AnimalPartsCollector used to carve this huge B out of a single tusk.

But I appreciate you representing the animal rights culture and reminding us what it's all about. 


Title: Re: "The Hive" a $14,000usd Bitcoin Art Piece
Post by: michaeladair on January 20, 2015, 02:21:47 PM
This is a beautiful art piece but is it made from animal ivory? If so people need to realise that these animals are going extinct because of animal killings

I thought this was a pink ivory wood... I don't think it's animal ivory.


Title: Re: "The Hive" a $14,000usd Bitcoin Art Piece
Post by: sethminer14 on January 20, 2015, 02:23:55 PM
Man if I was that Bit-rich... That is super awesome that you bought that!


Title: Re: "The Hive" a $14,000usd Bitcoin Art Piece
Post by: WoodCollector on January 20, 2015, 02:27:15 PM
I sincerely hope you're going to refund Blazedout419 for this mockery.

You shouldn't go with the accusation till it is proven right.

Even still, the wood itself cost 90%
The high cost associated with this piece is the wood, yes, I appreciate that, however it was sold in bad taste and under false pretense.


the hive that was commisioned by Blazedout419 and the one posted in scam accusation are different piece

The one posted in the scam accusation was made from purpleheart. You know what they say, "every great man is going to have a few detractors" it was only a matter of time before someone got jealous enough and bored enough to start making accusations. Someone said something a month ago or so, but after posting pictures and whatnot he knew i was for real. This new guy just has too much time on his hands.

This is a beautiful art piece but is it made from animal ivory? If so people need to realise that these animals are going extinct because of animal killings

I thought this was a pink ivory wood... I don't think it's animal ivory.

Correct, More info can be found here (http://www.wood-database.com/lumber-identification/hardwoods/pink-ivory/)


Title: Re: "The Hive" a $14,000usd Bitcoin Art Piece
Post by: Madness on January 20, 2015, 02:28:13 PM
Congratulations on whoever bought it , I'am not sure about the wood price but I don't think it worth it at all .
I personally don't believe in Art at all , even the Monaliza I don't seewhy it worth millions of dollars  :-\


Title: Re: "The Hive" a $14,000usd Bitcoin Art Piece
Post by: danielpbarron on January 20, 2015, 08:04:03 PM
https://i.imgur.com/PfIDMSD.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/nGUz6A9.jpg

Commissioned by: Blazedout419 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=134378)
Material: Premiere grade quilted Watermelon Ivory (A rare form of Pink Ivory (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pink_Ivory))
Price: $14,000 usd

The Hive is a representation of the hive mind (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hive_mind) that drives Bitcoin and its great communities and is hand carved into one of the the most expensive and rare woods on the planet. Pink Ivory wood is listed on the top 10 most expensive woods in the world (http://www.mostexpensivelist.com/top-10-most-expensive-wood-in-the-world/) and Watermelon Ivory is an ultra rare form of Pink Ivory which is no longer listed or classified as it only grows naturally and 99.99% of the time only in trees exceeding 500 years of age. Pink Ivory trees are protected and thus only allowed to be harvest if they are commercially grown directly for harvest which eliminates access to Watermelon Ivory all together unless the tree was fell prior to its listing on the protected list.

A special thanks to Blazedout419 as without his commissioning me to create this great piece this luxurious and beautiful wood would have probably been turned into some rich snobs cigar box or his wife's jewelry box.

So you started with a very expensive piece of wood, and took a dump all over it. It's especially cute that Blazedout419 thinks bitcoin is driven by a "hive mind."


Title: Re: "The Hive" a $14,000usd Bitcoin Art Piece
Post by: runpaint on January 20, 2015, 08:16:35 PM
You don't get it.  It's a BTC Hive.



Title: Re: "The Hive" a $14,000usd Bitcoin Art Piece
Post by: WoodCollector on January 20, 2015, 08:18:58 PM
You don't get it.  It's a BTC Hive.



 ;D I was wondering how long it would take for someone to get that !!!!


Title: Re: "The Hive" a $14,000usd Bitcoin Art Piece
Post by: Blazed on January 21, 2015, 08:06:52 AM
You don't get it.  It's a BTC Hive.



 ;D I was wondering how long it would take for someone to get that !!!!

I did not come up with the idea...I said make me a nice BTC out of an exotic wood.


Title: Re: "The Hive" a $14,000usd Bitcoin Art Piece
Post by: WoodCollector on January 21, 2015, 08:57:45 AM
You don't get it.  It's a BTC Hive.



 ;D I was wondering how long it would take for someone to get that !!!!

I did not come up with the idea...I said make me a nice BTC out of an exotic wood.

Someone said you came up with the design?


Title: Re: "The Hive" a $14,000usd Bitcoin Art Piece
Post by: Gervais on January 21, 2015, 11:40:04 AM
This is a beautiful art piece but is it made from animal ivory? If so people need to realise that these animals are going extinct because of animal killings

Lol it's ivory wood. Nothing to do with animal ivory.


We are here on a public forum to express our opinions, my opinion is that it's a worthless piece of shit. How is it indicative of my intelligence or entitles you to condescend and generally be an unpleasant fart I shall never know.

Who cares if it's the 3rd rarest sea shell with the 3rd rarest blue spot, it's still a useless crap.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_dK_g_QLTB8w/S-GrG85tJ4I/AAAAAAAAABA/vjgaCOCdGF8/s1600/No+5+1948.jpg
Ahh, yes, we can see hints of the painters rough childhood at the bottom left strokes, the colors are clearly indicitive of his mixed sexual orientation and his sexual urges towards his mother, dem plebeians could never comprehend the sophistication! let me swirl my wine in my glass some more.
Meanwhile us normal people who aren't braindead pretentious faggot stoners are buying guns, cars and actual pieces of art.

Art is always subjective, but I always bring up Jackson Pollock's paintings when this sort of discussion comes up. That's one of the most expensive paintings in the world and quite clearly anyone who isn't a pretentious fuck can see that it's bullshit, but if people want to pay ridiculous amounts of money for stuff then they're free to do it.


Title: Re: "The Hive" a $14,000usd Bitcoin Art Piece
Post by: blumangroup on January 21, 2015, 11:56:55 AM
I sincerely hope you're going to refund Blazedout419 for this mockery.

You shouldn't go with the accusation till it is proven right.

Even still, the wood itself cost 90%
The high cost associated with this piece is the wood, yes, I appreciate that, however it was sold in bad taste and under false pretense.
I don't see why he should refund blazed his money. Blazed seems to be happy with his purchase and the fact that his art was machine made verses hand made does not seem to have affected what he would have been willing to pay.


Title: Re: "The Hive" a $14,000usd Bitcoin Art Piece
Post by: haploid23 on January 21, 2015, 01:08:40 PM
Material: Premiere grade quilted Watermelon Ivory (A rare form of Pink Ivory (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pink_Ivory))


This is a beautiful art piece but is it made from animal ivory? If so people need to realise that these animals are going extinct because of animal killings


Yes, it's made from the animal species called Tree


Title: Re: "The Hive" a $14,000usd Bitcoin Art Piece
Post by: WoodCollector on January 21, 2015, 08:39:59 PM
I sincerely hope you're going to refund Blazedout419 for this mockery.

You shouldn't go with the accusation till it is proven right.

Even still, the wood itself cost 90%
The high cost associated with this piece is the wood, yes, I appreciate that, however it was sold in bad taste and under false pretense.
I don't see why he should refund blazed his money. Blazed seems to be happy with his purchase and the fact that his art was machine made verses hand made does not seem to have affected what he would have been willing to pay.

Contrary to popular beliefs it was not machine made.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=932131.msg10231733#msg10231733


Title: Re: "The Hive" a $14,000usd Bitcoin Art Piece
Post by: nubbins on January 23, 2015, 11:59:46 AM
UPDATE 1: WoodCollector creates a hate thread in order to intimidate me into silence. He will post his evidence "soon": https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=931109.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=931109.0)

UPDATE 2: A carver with 40 years of experience calls bullshit: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=930649.msg10223017#msg10223017 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=930649.msg10223017#msg10223017)

UPDATE 3: Several pieces are found to be using stolen artwork: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=930649.msg10226824#msg10226824 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=930649.msg10226824#msg10226824)

UPDATE 4: IMPORTANT: I have received PMs indicating that WoodCollector is contacting his customers privately, and attempting to extort more money out of them by claiming that he will provide them with video proof once they pay their outstanding balance. I urge any customers who have not paid in full to not give this scammer any more of your money as he runs out the door.

UPDATE 5: Thread where WoodCollector attempts to recruit paid shills to push his phony wares: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=915488.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=915488.0)

UPDATE 6: Thread where our Master Carver is tired of making $10 million a year, and is interested in a much more lucrative career operating a dark market website selling marijuana paraphernalia: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=884265.msg9753499#msg9753499 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=884265.msg9753499#msg9753499).

UPDATE 7: More stolen artwork: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=930649.msg10235300#msg10235300 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=930649.msg10235300#msg10235300)

UPDATE 8: WoodCollector resorts to using homophobic slurs to silence his detractors: https://i.imgur.com/DWQ8trs.png (https://i.imgur.com/DWQ8trs.png)


Title: Re: "The Hive" a $14,000usd Bitcoin Art Piece
Post by: SargeR33 on January 23, 2015, 12:48:45 PM
The touch of BTC in the cells is brilliant.


Title: Re: "The Hive" a $14,000usd Bitcoin Art Piece
Post by: ukcrypto on January 23, 2015, 01:07:26 PM
UPDATE 1: WoodCollector creates a hate thread in order to intimidate me into silence. He will post his evidence "soon": https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=931109.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=931109.0)

UPDATE 2: A carver with 40 years of experience calls bullshit: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=930649.msg10223017#msg10223017 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=930649.msg10223017#msg10223017)

UPDATE 3: Several pieces are found to be using stolen artwork: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=930649.msg10226824#msg10226824 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=930649.msg10226824#msg10226824)

UPDATE 4: IMPORTANT: I have received PMs indicating that WoodCollector is contacting his customers privately, and attempting to extort more money out of them by claiming that he will provide them with video proof once they pay their outstanding balance. I urge any customers who have not paid in full to not give this scammer any more of your money as he runs out the door.

UPDATE 5: Thread where WoodCollector attempts to recruit paid shills to push his phony wares: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=915488.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=915488.0)

UPDATE 6: Thread where our Master Carver is tired of making $10 million a year, and is interested in a much more lucrative career operating a dark market website selling marijuana paraphernalia: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=884265.msg9753499#msg9753499 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=884265.msg9753499#msg9753499).

UPDATE 7: More stolen artwork: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=930649.msg10235300#msg10235300 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=930649.msg10235300#msg10235300)

UPDATE 8: WoodCollector resorts to using homophobic slurs to silence his detractors: https://i.imgur.com/DWQ8trs.png (https://i.imgur.com/DWQ8trs.png)

Why is everyone who does not agree with you a shill?

People keep saying I am a shill even though I posted shipping info from US to UK..how does that one work?

I would post the transaction IDs for my 2 purchases but what's the point you will somehow say they are fake.

Wonder what you will say when you see his videos?

Signed: a happy and repeat customer


Title: Re: "The Hive" a $14,000usd Bitcoin Art Piece
Post by: nubbins on January 23, 2015, 01:09:20 PM
Why is everyone who does not agree with you a shill?

People keep saying I am a shill even though I posted shipping info from US to UK..how does that one work?

Yes, people keep saying you're a shill, even though you wrote down the names of several cities as well as a few times and dates in a post somewhere, way back when.

We're saying you're a shill because there's no other rational explanation for your continued support of an obvious, obvious scam.



Title: Re: "The Hive" a $14,000usd Bitcoin Art Piece
Post by: ukcrypto on January 23, 2015, 01:11:59 PM
Why is everyone who does not agree with you a shill?

People keep saying I am a shill even though I posted shipping info from US to UK..how does that one work?

Yes, people keep saying you're a shill, even though you wrote down the names of several cities as well as a few times and dates in a post somewhere, way back when.

We're saying you're a shill because there's no other rational explanation for your continued support of an obvious, obvious scam.



I could post the link to the shipping companies but what the point

I could post the 2 transaction ids but again what's the point?



Title: Re: "The Hive" a $14,000usd Bitcoin Art Piece
Post by: nubbins on January 23, 2015, 01:13:52 PM
Why is everyone who does not agree with you a shill?

People keep saying I am a shill even though I posted shipping info from US to UK..how does that one work?

Yes, people keep saying you're a shill, even though you wrote down the names of several cities as well as a few times and dates in a post somewhere, way back when.

We're saying you're a shill because there's no other rational explanation for your continued support of an obvious, obvious scam.



I could post the link to the shipping companies but what the point

I could post the 2 transaction ids but again what's the point?



Precisely so -- what's the point?

Does the shipping company list the contents of the package being shipped?

Does the TXID indicate what goods are being purchased?

No? Then, as you say... what's the point?


Title: Re: "The Hive" a $14,000usd Bitcoin Art Piece
Post by: Guido on January 23, 2015, 01:13:59 PM
why would you varnish it?

looks like any piece of wood that has been stained and varnished

it it were a rare piece of wood with natural colouring it would be best to leave 'au naturel'

I can find no comparison online in google images or anything where this piece resembles watermelon ivory wood


Title: Re: "The Hive" a $14,000usd Bitcoin Art Piece
Post by: nubbins on January 23, 2015, 01:16:47 PM
why would you varnish it?

looks like any piece of wood that has been stained and varnished

it it were a rare piece of wood with natural colouring it would be best to leave 'au naturel'

I can find no comparison online in google images or anything where this piece resembles watermelon ivory wood

I would actually pay to have a small sample drilled out of the back of this piece and sent to a lab for analysis.

Blazedout419 and I have a solid enough business relationship that I'm 100% willing to front the cost of determining whether he got ripped off. A two-minute google search shows up pieces of this very same wood for $900, not $11,000.


Title: Re: "The Hive" a $14,000usd Bitcoin Art Piece
Post by: ukcrypto on January 23, 2015, 01:18:51 PM
Why is everyone who does not agree with you a shill?

People keep saying I am a shill even though I posted shipping info from US to UK..how does that one work?

Yes, people keep saying you're a shill, even though you wrote down the names of several cities as well as a few times and dates in a post somewhere, way back when.

We're saying you're a shill because there's no other rational explanation for your continued support of an obvious, obvious scam.



I could post the link to the shipping companies but what the point

I could post the 2 transaction ids but again what's the point?



Precisely so -- what's the point?

Does the shipping company list the contents of the package being shipped?

Does the TXID indicate what goods are being purchased?

No? Then, as you say... what's the point?

Lol really dude, perhaps I could take a picture of it outside Big Ben but no then you would say its a photoshop, nothing will please you.. So what will you say when you see a video of woodcutter doing detailed carving?

Probably accuse him of faking the video no doubt...I have et to see any customers of his complaining about their finished product - correct me of I am wrong?


Title: Re: "The Hive" a $14,000usd Bitcoin Art Piece
Post by: nubbins on January 23, 2015, 01:26:13 PM
So what will you say when you see a video of woodcutter doing detailed carving?

when

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2t96w0/anybody_know_why_bitcointalk_is_down/cnxefyn

"in the middle of making a video"

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2t96w0/anybody_know_why_bitcointalk_is_down/cnxlut9

"I am making video so when the forum comes back up I can post it"

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2t96w0/anybody_know_why_bitcointalk_is_down/cnxknes

"The battery just died in my camera"

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2t96w0/anybody_know_why_bitcointalk_is_down/cnxlut9

"I am waiting for my battery to charge"

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2t96w0/anybody_know_why_bitcointalk_is_down/cnxn9wq

"No way to charge it while the battery is still in it" (!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2t96w0/anybody_know_why_bitcointalk_is_down/cnxophx

"I am about to start posting videos"

That was 12 hours ago. Do you actually, in your heart of hearts, believe that there will be a video?


Title: Re: "The Hive" a $14,000usd Bitcoin Art Piece
Post by: tmfp on January 23, 2015, 01:28:44 PM
why would you varnish it?

looks like any piece of wood that has been stained and varnished

it it were a rare piece of wood with natural colouring it would be best to leave 'au naturel'


+1.
This screamed out loud to me the first time I saw it and has done ever since.
It looks like some form of high gloss polyurethane varnish, totally inappropriate treatment for a rare piece of very hard wood (if that's what it is).

The touch of BTC in the cells is brilliant.

Yeah, a visual play on the BTC growing in the hive.
To have bees waxed the finished item would have been in keeping with this and allowed some patina to develop in the future, rather than gloss varnishing it to look like plastic.

Yes, I do know what I'm talking about. No, I am not someone else. Yes, I would like to see the carving video.


Title: Re: "The Hive" a $14,000usd Bitcoin Art Piece
Post by: DoubleTrouble on January 23, 2015, 01:42:55 PM
I like it  ;D
Tbh I dunno about the price (I understand much of it was the wood)


Title: Re: "The Hive" a $14,000usd Bitcoin Art Piece
Post by: Walee on January 23, 2015, 01:50:01 PM
It's pretty dope. I like the design and all but are you serious about the price ?
14 ducking thousand??


Title: Re: "The Hive" a $14,000usd Bitcoin Art Piece
Post by: nubbins on January 23, 2015, 01:56:29 PM
It's pretty dope. I like the design and all but are you serious about the price ?
14 ducking thousand??

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Red-Pink-Ivory-Wood-49-x-8-x-1-25-/171638172084?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27f66ea9b4 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Red-Pink-Ivory-Wood-49-x-8-x-1-25-/171638172084?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27f66ea9b4)

a few hundred bucks worth of wood, and about $70 worth of laser engraving, topped off with a cheap, shitty, plastic looking varnish that disguises the fact that it's probably not even pink ivory wood in the first place.


Title: Re: "The Hive" a $14,000usd Bitcoin Art Piece
Post by: teeGUMES on January 23, 2015, 02:12:47 PM
I agree the finish on it wrecks the piece for me. I love the idea of the BTC , I had Andreas sign my copy of his book with one. I've bought one of start the art's pieces that beautifies the BTC..

That finish tho.. All I could think was.. well hopefully it isn't done curing or whatever you call it and it doesn't end up being so shiny. I do like the design.. but god damn.


Title: Re: "The Hive" a $14,000usd Bitcoin Art Piece
Post by: ukcrypto on January 23, 2015, 02:48:24 PM
So what will you say when you see a video of woodcutter doing detailed carving?

when

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2t96w0/anybody_know_why_bitcointalk_is_down/cnxefyn

"in the middle of making a video"

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2t96w0/anybody_know_why_bitcointalk_is_down/cnxlut9

"I am making video so when the forum comes back up I can post it"

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2t96w0/anybody_know_why_bitcointalk_is_down/cnxknes

"The battery just died in my camera"

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2t96w0/anybody_know_why_bitcointalk_is_down/cnxlut9

"I am waiting for my battery to charge"

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2t96w0/anybody_know_why_bitcointalk_is_down/cnxn9wq

"No way to charge it while the battery is still in it" (!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2t96w0/anybody_know_why_bitcointalk_is_down/cnxophx

"I am about to start posting videos"

That was 12 hours ago. Do you actually, in your heart of hearts, believe that there will be a video?


Yes I do believe it.


Title: Re: "The Hive" a $14,000usd Bitcoin Art Piece
Post by: nubbins on January 23, 2015, 02:54:24 PM
few speaks as if they were ripped off because of your claim that WC is a fraud and use laser engraver instead of hand carver, we still dont know if this is a fact or not until the promised video is being made

For all those waiting for a video, please state below the maximum amount of time you are willing to wait for the video.

Me: one month.

Please state your response in the linked thread so that we can keep things organized.


Title: Re: "The Hive" a $14,000usd Bitcoin Art Piece
Post by: poisenrang on January 23, 2015, 02:55:08 PM
https://i.imgur.com/PfIDMSD.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/nGUz6A9.jpg

Commissioned by: Blazedout419 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=134378)
Material: Premiere grade quilted Watermelon Ivory (A rare form of Pink Ivory (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pink_Ivory))
Price: $14,000 usd

The Hive is a representation of the hive mind (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hive_mind) that drives Bitcoin and its great communities and is hand carved into one of the the most expensive and rare woods on the planet. Pink Ivory wood is listed on the top 10 most expensive woods in the world (http://www.mostexpensivelist.com/top-10-most-expensive-wood-in-the-world/) and Watermelon Ivory is an ultra rare form of Pink Ivory which is no longer listed or classified as it only grows naturally and 99.99% of the time only in trees exceeding 500 years of age. Pink Ivory trees are protected and thus only allowed to be harvest if they are commercially grown directly for harvest which eliminates access to Watermelon Ivory all together unless the tree was fell prior to its listing on the protected list.

A special thanks to Blazedout419 as without his commissioning me to create this great piece this luxurious and beautiful wood would have probably been turned into some rich snobs cigar box or his wife's jewelry box.

WOAHH!!! this piece is so nice! carved so well!


Title: Re: "The Hive" a $14,000usd Bitcoin Art Piece
Post by: nubbins on January 23, 2015, 02:56:22 PM
WOAHH!!! this piece is so nice! carved so well!

This user is so shill! Paid so well!

WoodCollector, can you please ask your shills to at least TRY to be subtle? Jesus...


Title: Re: "The Hive" a $14,000usd Bitcoin Art Piece
Post by: jcpham on January 23, 2015, 03:22:13 PM
Hello I've come to stir the pot. A little birdy on the internet said this ship was sinking....fast.

Are the customers revolting? Will the wooden lathe man rat out his customers for buying his laser-engraved bongs?

The story at 10PM, back to you chuck.



Title: Re: "The Hive" a $14,000usd Bitcoin Art Piece
Post by: fluffypony on January 23, 2015, 03:55:14 PM
I've been staying out of this, as I don't really care, but now that I've taken the time to read through the thread...wow. What a load of hogwash.

Let me start by saying that I live in South Africa, and in particular I live 30 minutes drive from the Rare Woods SA facility in Knysna. So I'm going to concentrate on the South African wood used in this piece of "art". I have discussed this at length with an associate from Rare Woods and from two other local timber companies that specialise in unique woods.

First, lets take a choice quote from WoodCollector:

As for pink ivory, you will not find any. Firstly its protected as it is on the top 4 list of most expensive and rarest woods on the planet, secondly it requires a few thousand dollars in permits to harvest legally. This i know as i just ordered an $8,000 piece of Watermelon Ivory ( an even more rare form of pink ivory) from south west Africa and the paperwork required to get it through customs was INSANE. Its not illegal to posses, you can get permits to harvest it for a pretty price tag, but it is very illegal to ship without paying about 4 different duties, 3 different taxes, half a dozen permits, and you have to provide a 1" square sample of the wood being shipped as customs requires it to be lab tested to verify its origin, age, legality.

Firstly, it is not a protected wood species. Per Wood-Database (http://www.wood-database.com/lumber-identification/hardwoods/pink-ivory/) - "Sustainability: This wood species is not listed in the CITES Appendices or on the IUCN Red List of Threatened Species." The Wikipedia article on pink ivory mistakenly lists it as being protected in South Africa, as it was on the preliminary list for examination back in 2002 due to its cultural significance. That awareness has lead to it being sustainably logged, but it is not protected. The 2014 list of protected trees is published on the Department of Agriculture, Forestry and Fisheries website (http://www.nda.agric.za/doaDev/sideMenu/ForestryWeb/webapp/Documents/National%20List%20of%20protected%20trees%202014.pdf), and there is no mention of Berchemia zeyheri on it.

Secondly, watermelon ivory does not exist. Nobody has ever heard of it, and I spoke to several people who have been in the industry for decades.

Thirdly, even if it was protected (which it isn't) the permits required for logging protected trees are not difficult to get, and they are completely free to apply for. They do not cost "a few thousand dollars", what rubbish. To quote from a blog post on the Wild Card Blog (http://www.wildcard.co.za/blog.htm?action=view-post&id=1504) - "You need to apply for a license to cut any tree/s, but these licenses are generally easily granted as long as you have sufficient grounds for felling. In brief, the process begins with requesting the license application forms from the regional offices, which are situated all over South Africa in each province. These are provided electronically via e-mail, faxed or posted through to the applicant, or taken off the DAFF (Department of Agriculture, Forestry and Fisheries) web-site. Once the applicant has filled out and signed the form, it needs to go back to the regional office, where an assessment will be made of the application. The license will then be either granted or not, based on this assessment."

Fourthly, I have no idea about the "4 different duties, 3 different taxes, half a dozen permits" as it applies to the USA, but in South Africa there are no export duties or taxes levied against wood, nor does it require any special permits beyond what was detailed when applying for a (completely free) importers/exporters code.

Finally, pink ivory is an expensive wood, that much is true. Rare Woods SA has their pricelist available online (http://www.rarewoods.co.za/pricing), and they have pink ivory listed there. For a cubic meter (which is massive - imagine 1m x 1m / 3.28ft x 3.28ft slabs, 76mm / 3" thick, a cubic meter would contain 13 of those) of pink ivory you'd pay R86 050 + 14% VAT, so R98 097, which is $8 605. For 13 massive slabs. Even with shipping (you'd want something that heavy to go seafreight) and import duties on the other side of the pond...well, you do the math.

Oh and I'd like to just add that properly treated pink ivory doesn't look like it has a layer of goopy acrylic on top. It looks like this:



Title: Re: "The Hive" a $14,000usd Bitcoin Art Piece
Post by: neurotypical on January 23, 2015, 03:59:30 PM
Dropping bombs by monero dev... seems like OP's dream for a quick 14k is finished.
I still like how it looks tho, but next time make it off diamond or something if you want to charge a high price.


Title: Re: "The Hive" a $14,000usd Bitcoin Art Piece
Post by: nubbins on January 23, 2015, 04:01:37 PM
Actually, as someone who has worn wooden plugs as large as 3/4" in my ears in the past (tiny little cat arses these days), I thought pink ivory rang a bell. Turns out it's used for body jewelry all the time. The finish looks more like what fluffypony posted, and less like a Balrog jizzed on it.

https://www.google.ca/search?q=pink+ivory+plugs&espv=2&biw=1131&bih=633&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=BnDCVN-hCsq4ggSk2IDwBg&ved=0CAYQ_AUoAQ (https://www.google.ca/search?q=pink+ivory+plugs&espv=2&biw=1131&bih=633&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=BnDCVN-hCsq4ggSk2IDwBg&ved=0CAYQ_AUoAQ)

With a laser-cut design and a proper finish that doesn't attempt to cover up the laser job:

https://i.imgur.com/Qf1kcAY.jpg


Title: Re: "The Hive" a $14,000usd Bitcoin Art Piece
Post by: firewire2013 on January 23, 2015, 04:16:52 PM
Thats a nice piece of wood.

If your interested, im selling this rare cardboard for 6 BTC

http://kickassconfigs.com/files/9914/2202/9960/rare_bitboard.JPG


Title: Re: "The Hive" a $14,000usd Bitcoin Art Piece
Post by: nubbins on January 23, 2015, 04:20:47 PM
But can you make ten of those a day?  ;D


Title: Re: "The Hive" a $14,000usd Bitcoin Art Piece
Post by: jcpham on January 23, 2015, 04:21:30 PM
Thats a piece of wood.

If your interested, im selling this rare cardboard for 6 BTC

http://kickassconfigs.com/files/9914/2202/9960/rare_bitboard.JPG

6 BTC is a little high don't you think. Come down on the price a bit. Looks laser cut to me


Title: Re: "The Hive" a $14,000usd Bitcoin Art Piece
Post by: firewire2013 on January 23, 2015, 04:26:27 PM
Thats a piece of wood.

If your interested, im selling this rare cardboard for 6 BTC


6 BTC is a little high don't you think. Come down on the price a bit. Looks laser cut to me


I did say its a rare cardboard, but were all friends on here so Im open to offers around 5 BTC, ill even throw in free postage world wide.


Title: Re: "The Hive" a $14,000usd Bitcoin Art Piece
Post by: hilariousandco on January 23, 2015, 04:41:50 PM
Can you provide a video of you hand cutting it to prove you have the skills to use scissors/box cutters?


Title: Re: "The Hive" a $14,000usd Bitcoin Art Piece
Post by: fluffypony on January 23, 2015, 04:43:54 PM
Just a little addition to my previous post. I've been told that the piece was 9" x 12", and I'm thumb-sucking that its around 1.5" thick.

Based on those assumptions we can figure out the actual cost of the wood, based off the Rare Woods SA price list. We're going to forego calculating shipping on the whole cubic meter, as for a piece that small it can be shipped relatively cheaply via courier. So for $8 605 we get a fat cubic meter of pink ivory. If we get 38mm boards (which is around 1.5") then that cubic meter would contain 26 of them, so $331 a board.

This is what 9x12 looks like when taken out of the 1m2 board:


That's 6.97% of the board, which is $23.07. Of course you need a buffer for the wood you're "carving" off, so let's be super generous and double that up to $46 for good measure.

Add in shipping, import duties, labour, amortisation of equipment, local shipping, liability insurance, and a very large quantity of cheap wood varnish, and I can't imagine this having a raw cost of more than $400 (if quite a few hours was spent carving it by hand, but I suspect that was not the case). Add in a fair margin for it being artistic in nature (plus creative work is typically harder to produce consistently), and a fair selling price would have been $1000 - $1500. And you know, if it looked good and was well made I might have thought about spending that amount of money on it. But at $14k? No...that's scam-level profit margins.


Title: Re: "The Hive" a $14,000usd Bitcoin Art Piece
Post by: Bit_Happy on January 23, 2015, 04:52:10 PM

....
The Hive is a representation of the hive mind (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hive_mind) that drives Bitcoin and its great communities...

The "Hive Mind" is also a Borg (evil collective) concept. What happened to "independent and decentralized?"


Title: Re: "The Hive" a $14,000usd Bitcoin Art Piece
Post by: danielpbarron on January 23, 2015, 05:04:46 PM
Dropping bombs by monero dev... seems like OP's dream for a quick 14k is finished.
I still like how it looks tho, but next time make it off diamond or something if you want to charge a high price.

Uh.. he got paid. Blazedout419 actually bought this thing!


Title: Re: "The Hive" a $14,000usd Bitcoin Art Piece
Post by: smoothie on January 23, 2015, 05:37:32 PM
So what will you say when you see a video of woodcutter doing detailed carving?

when

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2t96w0/anybody_know_why_bitcointalk_is_down/cnxefyn

"in the middle of making a video"

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2t96w0/anybody_know_why_bitcointalk_is_down/cnxlut9

"I am making video so when the forum comes back up I can post it"

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2t96w0/anybody_know_why_bitcointalk_is_down/cnxknes

"The battery just died in my camera"

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2t96w0/anybody_know_why_bitcointalk_is_down/cnxlut9

"I am waiting for my battery to charge"

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2t96w0/anybody_know_why_bitcointalk_is_down/cnxn9wq

"No way to charge it while the battery is still in it" (!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2t96w0/anybody_know_why_bitcointalk_is_down/cnxophx

"I am about to start posting videos"

That was 12 hours ago. Do you actually, in your heart of hearts, believe that there will be a video?



Wow just wow...lol....

How many excuses can he come up with?

BTW Nice compilation.  :D


Title: Re: "The Hive" a $14,000usd Bitcoin Art Piece
Post by: firewire2013 on January 23, 2015, 05:40:11 PM
Can you provide a video of you hand cutting it to prove you have the skills to use scissors/box cutters?

It was laser cut. I’m not quite sure I like where this is heading, what exactly are you insinuating? I just found an old box and started hacking away like some mad man with a pair scissors. Honestly you don’t know a work of art when you see one! :)


Title: Re: "The Hive" a $14,000usd Bitcoin Art Piece
Post by: smoothie on January 23, 2015, 05:49:58 PM
Thats a nice piece of wood.

If your interested, im selling this rare cardboard for 6 BTC

http://kickassconfigs.com/files/9914/2202/9960/rare_bitboard.JPG

But it isn't original...or no?

lol

I'll start the bidding at 0.00000001 BTC shipped.  :D

Thanks for the laugh.


Title: Re: "The Hive" a $14,000usd Bitcoin Art Piece
Post by: Lethn on January 23, 2015, 05:54:19 PM
Holy Shit? He was being dodgy about it being hand-carved etc.? If I'm not sure I can label my work as that then I don't, that's pretty disappointing and a bit alarming that I barely noticed this shit storm happening lol that's what I get for hanging out in other sections too much.


Title: Re: "The Hive" a $14,000usd Bitcoin Art Piece
Post by: hilariousandco on January 23, 2015, 06:03:43 PM
"The battery just died in my camera"

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2t96w0/anybody_know_why_bitcointalk_is_down/cnxtnc0

That was 12 hours ago. Do you actually, in your heart of hearts, believe that there will be a video?



http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2t96w0/anybody_know_why_bitcointalk_is_down/cnxtnc0

 :o That guy sounds like Hannibal Lector  ;D.


Title: Re: "The Hive" a $14,000usd Bitcoin Art Piece
Post by: WoodCollector on January 23, 2015, 06:18:46 PM
The shit storm will be over soon. Video proof should be up within the next 12-18 hours depending on how slow you tube wants to continue to be.

Let me correct myself, the "shit storm" will be over on my behalf. We all know nothing is going to shut this mad mob of degenerates down no matter what, not a single one of them is man enough to admit when they messed up and apologize.


Upload progress... Its not really going to be 800 and some minutes. It said 5,000 minutes when i started it last night.