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Title: What is your favorite Satoshi quote?
Post by: Chris_Sabian on November 29, 2014, 05:01:54 PM
Post your favourite Satoshi quote here.  It can be a forum post, whitepaper, email, or any other verified Satoshi quote.  Please add a link to the reference / source.

My favourite is:

I'm sure that in 20 years there will either be very large transaction volume or no volume." - Satoshi

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=48.msg329#msg329




Satoshi's profile:  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3

Satoshi's posts:   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3;sa=showPosts


Title: Re: What is your favorite Satoshi quote?
Post by: BitCoinDream on November 29, 2014, 05:07:43 PM
This is the best in my opinion...

It would have been nice to get this attention in any other context.  WikiLeaks has kicked the hornet's nest, and the swarm is headed towards us.



Title: Re: What is your favorite Satoshi quote?
Post by: DannyHamilton on November 29, 2014, 05:21:52 PM
I've always liked the way this one makes it clear that consolidation in the mining industry was the plan from the beginning:

I anticipate there will never be more than 100K nodes, probably less.  It will reach an equilibrium where it's not worth it for more nodes to join in.  The rest will be lightweight clients, which could be millions.

At equilibrium size, many nodes will be server farms with one or two network nodes that feed the rest of the farm over a LAN.

This one echos the same sentiment:

The current system where every user is a network node is not the intended configuration for large scale.  That would be like every Usenet user runs their own NNTP server.  The design supports letting users just be users.  The more burden it is to run a node, the fewer nodes there will be.  Those few nodes will be big server farms.  The rest will be client nodes that only do transactions and don't generate.

But I think one of my all time favorites is:

If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry.



Title: Re: What is your favorite Satoshi quote?
Post by: Frijj on November 29, 2014, 05:27:40 PM


But I think one of my all time favorites is:

If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry.



Yeh, I like that one too. Think I saw someone had that in their signature. I haven't read much of Satoshi's writings, but I keep meaning to go though and read his old posts to get a better picture.


Title: Re: What is your favorite Satoshi quote?
Post by: LiteCoinGuy on November 29, 2014, 06:03:23 PM
"May the Force be with you."


Title: Re: What is your favorite Satoshi quote?
Post by: teukon on November 29, 2014, 06:10:14 PM
I recall reading this back when I was just a lurker.

How long have you been working on this design Satoshi?  It seems very well thought out, not the kind of thing you just sit down and code up without doing a lot of brainstorming and discussion on it first.  Everyone has the obvious questions looking for holes in it but it is holding up well :)
Since 2007.  At some point I became convinced there was a way to do this without any trust required at all and couldn't resist to keep thinking about it.  Much more of the work was designing than coding.

It's stuck with me ever since.


Title: Re: What is your favorite Satoshi quote?
Post by: BitCoinDream on November 29, 2014, 06:12:26 PM
"May the Force be with you."

AFAIK, this is from Star Wars. Where did Satoshi say it ?


Title: Re: What is your favorite Satoshi quote?
Post by: Ragecat on November 29, 2014, 06:23:25 PM
"I am not Dorian Nakamoto"

Lol is only 1 i know


Title: Re: What is your favorite Satoshi quote?
Post by: teukon on November 29, 2014, 06:28:59 PM
"I am not Dorian Nakamoto"

Lol is only 1 i know

Yeah.  Satoshi's not so chatty these days.


Title: Re: What is your favorite Satoshi quote?
Post by: scarsbergholden on November 29, 2014, 06:48:44 PM
I personally like the one in your signature about Bitcoin's success in 20 years (the number of transactions).

However I think that these kinds of threads and people worshiping satoshi so much that they have favorite quotes of his are bad for bitcoin in general. I don't think that satoshi wanted to be worshiped in this way. Also if his identity ever is discovered then anything he says or does could potentially affect bitcoin


Title: Re: What is your favorite Satoshi quote?
Post by: cesckat on November 29, 2014, 07:18:44 PM
mmmm… I agree with some of the comments:
If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry.
One word to describe it: sublime.


Title: Re: What is your favorite Satoshi quote?
Post by: fabiola! on November 29, 2014, 10:30:55 PM
I like the ones where he says he's not satoshi :)


Title: Re: What is your favorite Satoshi quote?
Post by: redhawk979 on November 29, 2014, 11:51:06 PM
What about the line from the end of his whitepaper where he says this is only a proof of concept and anyone dumb enough to invest money in it deserves to lose it all?


Title: Re: What is your favorite Satoshi quote?
Post by: thejaytiesto on November 30, 2014, 01:11:52 AM
Quote
Sorry to be a wet blanket. Writing a description for (bitcoin) for general audiences is bloody hard. There’s nothing to relate it to.


Title: Re: What is your favorite Satoshi quote?
Post by: cbeast on November 30, 2014, 01:22:40 AM
What about the line from the end of his whitepaper where he says this is only a proof of concept and anyone dumb enough to invest money in it deserves to lose it all?
You made me look.  :P


Title: Re: What is your favorite Satoshi quote?
Post by: cbeast on November 30, 2014, 01:24:34 AM
Quote
The Times 03/Jan/2009 Chancellor on brink of second bailout for banks


Title: Re: What is your favorite Satoshi quote?
Post by: gweedo on November 30, 2014, 01:33:29 AM
But I think one of my all time favorites is:

If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry.

My favorite!


Title: Re: What is your favorite Satoshi quote?
Post by: BlindMayorBitcorn on November 30, 2014, 01:44:05 AM
Satoshi on porn is classic

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=671.msg13844#msg13844


Title: Re: What is your favorite Satoshi quote?
Post by: johnyj on November 30, 2014, 01:58:51 AM
I don't remember exactly the words, but his opinion about "phase in" the change of block size, so that when the change comes, the majority of the nodes have already reached a consensus

This approach can give the users enough time to react to a HARD FORK, which is an "extinct level" event as Jeff Garzik described it  ;D


Title: Re: What is your favorite Satoshi quote?
Post by: Lethn on November 30, 2014, 06:40:45 AM
Satoshi on porn is classic

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=671.msg13844#msg13844

lmao I quite like that one, but it's also very true about the recurring bill thing, anyone who's dealing in Bitcoin now has to politely send an invoice to you that you need to pay rather than just steal the money directly from your bank account, great news for MMORPG players and the like as well as porn downloaders :P


Title: Re: What is your favorite Satoshi quote?
Post by: cesckat on November 30, 2014, 11:49:12 AM
Satoshi on porn is classic

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=671.msg13844#msg13844

lmao I quite like that one, but it's also very true about the recurring bill thing, anyone who's dealing in Bitcoin now has to politely send an invoice to you that you need to pay rather than just steal the money directly from your bank account, great news for MMORPG players and the like as well as porn downloaders :P

 :o yes!
Bitcoin would be convenient for people who don't have a credit card or don't want to use the cards they have, either don't want the spouse to see it on the bill or don't trust giving their number to "porn guys", or afraid of recurring billing.


I think that I'm going to be one afternoon reading all the satoshi comments  :D :D


Title: Re: What is your favorite Satoshi quote?
Post by: xDan on November 30, 2014, 12:25:57 PM
Quote from: satoshi
I am God, and all mortal creatures shall bow before my greatness.

pretty much my favourite Satoshi quote


Title: Re: What is your favorite Satoshi quote?
Post by: cesckat on November 30, 2014, 02:41:48 PM
Quote from: satoshi
I am God, and all mortal creatures shall bow before my greatness.

pretty much my favourite Satoshi quote
;D ;D
This isn't real, lol.

Now I want to ask something on that topic:
Do you think that satoshi is just one person or it's a group of people? ah?  :P


Title: Re: What is your favorite Satoshi quote?
Post by: wunkbone on December 01, 2014, 06:17:05 AM
Satoshi on porn is classic

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=671.msg13844#msg13844

lmao I quite like that one, but it's also very true about the recurring bill thing, anyone who's dealing in Bitcoin now has to politely send an invoice to you that you need to pay rather than just steal the money directly from your bank account, great news for MMORPG players and the like as well as porn downloaders :P
Well a lot of people sign up for automatic billing so they don't need to be bothered with having to remember to pay every month so there are some good things with automatic billing features. Although most reputable companies will stop charging your bank account/credit card when you request them to do so (even if an agreement says that you continue to owe them money) there are some that will not do this, for example porn sites (as mentioned by satoshi)


Title: Re: What is your favorite Satoshi quote?
Post by: cryptogeeknext on December 01, 2014, 09:24:16 PM
I've always liked the way this one makes it clear that consolidation in the mining industry was the plan from the beginning:

I anticipate there will never be more than 100K nodes, probably less.  It will reach an equilibrium where it's not worth it for more nodes to join in.  The rest will be lightweight clients, which could be millions.

At equilibrium size, many nodes will be server farms with one or two network nodes that feed the rest of the farm over a LAN.

This one echos the same sentiment:

The current system where every user is a network node is not the intended configuration for large scale.  That would be like every Usenet user runs their own NNTP server.  The design supports letting users just be users.  The more burden it is to run a node, the fewer nodes there will be.  Those few nodes will be big server farms.  The rest will be client nodes that only do transactions and don't generate.
...

Those are good ones. Should give people some idea about current state of affairs in mining.

...
Now I want to ask something on that topic:
Do you think that satoshi is just one person or it's a group of people? ah?  :P

Satoshi is a group... of one person ;D
There is only one of us here.


Title: Re: What is your favorite Satoshi quote?
Post by: 548845 on December 01, 2014, 09:27:17 PM
My favorite: "resistance is futile"


PS: He didn't say it.... yet.....



Title: Re: What is your favorite Satoshi quote?
Post by: MicroGuy on December 01, 2014, 10:13:41 PM
Probably the final thing he said on this forum before he vanished with over 1 million bitcoins he mined while controlling the lion's share of the Bitcoin network. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2228.msg29479#msg29479

"As Gavin and I have said clearly before, the software is not at all resistant to DoS attack.  This is one improvement, but there are still more ways to attack than I can count."


Title: Re: What is your favorite Satoshi quote?
Post by: Chris_Sabian on December 01, 2014, 10:28:23 PM
I personally like the one in your signature about Bitcoin's success in 20 years (the number of transactions).

However I think that these kinds of threads and people worshiping satoshi so much that they have favorite quotes of his are bad for bitcoin in general. I don't think that satoshi wanted to be worshiped in this way. Also if his identity ever is discovered then anything he says or does could potentially affect bitcoin

I didn't create this thread as a form of Satoshi worship.  There are plenty of things that Satoshi said/did that I don't agree with.  I created this thread as a way to promote bitcoin with, hopefully, positive quotes.


Title: Re: What is your favorite Satoshi quote?
Post by: MineForeman.com on December 02, 2014, 03:31:07 AM
Quote
I've been working on a new electronic cash system that's fully peer-to-peer, with no trusted third party.
http://www.mail-archive.com/cryptography%40metzdowd.com/msg09959.html


Surprised no one has mentioned this one, my favorite by far.



Title: Re: What is your favorite Satoshi quote?
Post by: philiveyjr on December 02, 2014, 08:08:26 AM
Quote
I've been working on a new electronic cash system that's fully peer-to-peer, with no trusted third party.
http://www.mail-archive.com/cryptography%40metzdowd.com/msg09959.html


Surprised no one has mentioned this one, my favorite by far.


Yeah this is one of my fav's as well...n revolutionary..!! :)


Title: Re: What is your favorite Satoshi quote?
Post by: theblacksquid on December 02, 2014, 08:21:02 PM
I like how he knew in advance that the Bitcoin economy would start out as a payment network.

As a thought experiment, imagine there was a base metal as scarce as gold but with the following properties:
- boring grey in colour
- not a good conductor of electricity
- not particularly strong, but not ductile or easily malleable either
- not useful for any practical or ornamental purpose

and one special, magical property:
- can be transported over a communications channel

If it somehow acquired any value at all for whatever reason, then anyone wanting to transfer wealth over a long distance could buy some, transmit it, and have the recipient sell it.



Title: Re: What is your favorite Satoshi quote?
Post by: Elwar on December 02, 2014, 08:33:00 PM
His last messages to Gavin...

Come...

Stay..

Ouch

Ouch

I'll...be....right...here...


Title: Re: What is your favorite Satoshi quote?
Post by: TheLittleDuke on December 02, 2014, 08:51:36 PM
"All your coinbase are belong to us!"


Title: Re: What is your favorite Satoshi quote?
Post by: BittBurger on December 02, 2014, 10:06:56 PM
The most famous Satoshi quote appears on the Genesis Block.  It conveys the true meaning of Bitcoin.

The Times 03/Jan/2009 Chancellor on brink of second bailout for banks

https://blockchain.info/tx/4a5e1e4baab89f3a32518a88c31bc87f618f76673e2cc77ab2127b7afdeda33b?show_adv=true

-B-


Title: Re: What is your favorite Satoshi quote?
Post by: cesckat on December 02, 2014, 11:13:11 PM
The most famous Satoshi quote appears on the Genesis Block.  It conveys the true meaning of Bitcoin.

The Times 03/Jan/2009 Chancellor on brink of second bailout for banks

https://blockchain.info/tx/4a5e1e4baab89f3a32518a88c31bc87f618f76673e2cc77ab2127b7afdeda33b?show_adv=true

-B-

Historical TX-ID for the Bitcoin network  :D
yay!

Remember that's a non-used block: https://blockchain.info/es/block-index/14849  ;)