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Title: FAKE BITCOINS
Post by: fewcoins on December 06, 2014, 12:32:51 AM
Sad that you guys still have so much confidence when somehow there are over 21million coins ALREADY being traded... but we only mined 13mil right???

http://www.coindesk.com/many-bitcoins-making-sense-exaggerated-inventory-claims/ (http://www.coindesk.com/many-bitcoins-making-sense-exaggerated-inventory-claims/)


Title: Re: FAKE BITCOINS
Post by: jeffersonairplane on December 06, 2014, 12:35:53 AM
After reading the article, I don't get the point you're trying to make with this thread.


Title: Re: FAKE BITCOINS
Post by: inca on December 06, 2014, 12:40:00 AM
It's almost time to get the mods to disappear you fewcoins. I don't know whether you are just stupid or underwater with some shorts. I don't care. Just ssssh and let adults converse in peace.


Title: Re: FAKE BITCOINS
Post by: fewcoins on December 06, 2014, 12:48:10 AM
It's almost time to get the mods to disappear you fewcoins. I don't know whether you are just stupid or underwater with some shorts. I don't care. Just ssssh and let adults converse in peace.

Next time do not write on my thread... go to one of the perma bull $999,999 per coin by 2015 threads.
Bye to you & your investment!


Title: Re: FAKE BITCOINS
Post by: fonzie on December 06, 2014, 12:54:59 AM
It's almost time to get the mods to disappear you fewcoins. I don't know whether you are just stupid or underwater with some shorts. I don't care. Just ssssh and let adults converse in peace.

Next time do not write on my thread... go to one of the perma bull $999,999 per coin by 2015 threads.
Bye to you & your investment!

It's almost time to get the mods to disappear you fewcoins. I don't know whether you are just stupid or underwater with some shorts. I don't care. Just ssssh and let adults converse in peace.
It's almost time to get the mods to disappear you fewcoins. I don't know whether you are just stupid or underwater with some shorts. I don't care. Just ssssh and let adults converse in peace.

Next time do not write on my thread... go to one of the perma bull $999,999 per coin by 2015 threads.
Bye to you & your investment!

It's almost time to get the mods to disappear you fewcoins. I don't know whether you are just stupid or underwater with some shorts. I don't care. Just ssssh and let adults converse in peace.
It's almost time to get the mods to disappear you fewcoins. I don't know whether you are just stupid or underwater with some shorts. I don't care. Just ssssh and let adults converse in peace.

Next time do not write on my thread... go to one of the perma bull $999,999 per coin by 2015 threads.
Bye to you & your investment!

It's almost time to get the mods to disappear you fewcoins. I don't know whether you are just stupid or underwater with some shorts. I don't care. Just ssssh and let adults converse in peace.


Title: Re: FAKE BITCOINS
Post by: criptix on December 06, 2014, 01:02:55 AM
man i really read: fake titcoins at first  :D


Title: Re: FAKE BITCOINS
Post by: RyNinDaCleM on December 06, 2014, 01:13:30 AM
Sad that you guys still have so much confidence when somehow there are over 21million coins ALREADY being traded... but we only mined 13mil right???

http://www.coindesk.com/many-bitcoins-making-sense-exaggerated-inventory-claims/ (http://www.coindesk.com/many-bitcoins-making-sense-exaggerated-inventory-claims/)

They are just talking about Risto's whacked method of determining who holds what. It is only a guess since they can't actually prove how many coins anyone has except a publicly known address and the addresses linked to that address. My public address has .65BTC in it. There are a few dozen transactions linked to the wallet containing said address but no one can tell you how many coins I have in my cold wallet. It's all guess work and the overage is the error in that guess.

Honestly, I don't see how that article is even newsworthy enough to waste the time to write a page of HTML to contain such garbage nor the drive space to host it.


Title: Re: FAKE BITCOINS
Post by: nicked on December 06, 2014, 01:22:37 AM
Sad that you guys still have so much confidence when somehow there are over 21million coins ALREADY being traded... but we only mined 13mil right???

http://www.coindesk.com/many-bitcoins-making-sense-exaggerated-inventory-claims/ (http://www.coindesk.com/many-bitcoins-making-sense-exaggerated-inventory-claims/)
No one is creating fake coins. They're just exaggerating to look "cool".


Title: Re: FAKE BITCOINS
Post by: Miz4r on December 06, 2014, 01:25:14 AM
Guys, it's almost time to get the mods to disappear you fewcoins. I have no idea what that means but I don't care, just ssssh and let adults converse in peace.


Title: Re: FAKE BITCOINS
Post by: Blazr on December 06, 2014, 02:18:41 AM
Lets say I have 10,000 btc on deposit at bitstamp. You ask me, how many bitcoins do you have, I'll say 10,000BTC. Then you ask bitstamp how many they have and they'll say they have 10,000BTC too. You count 20,000BTC total, yet there are really only 10,000BTC. Trying to estimate the total number of coins like that doesn't work, just track them using the blockchain.


Title: Re: FAKE BITCOINS
Post by: 2dogs on December 06, 2014, 09:24:20 AM
After reading the article, I don't get the point you're trying to make with this thread.

That makes two of us.


Title: Re: FAKE BITCOINS
Post by: xmasdobo on December 06, 2014, 03:18:50 PM
fewcoins, will you be here next year when bitcoin is up again or will you fake a convenient dissapareance to not face the shame?


Title: Re: FAKE BITCOINS
Post by: joksim299 on December 06, 2014, 03:24:41 PM
People always lie about money. The entire accounting profession is essentially a response to our fundamental mendacity. In the case of the Bitcoin it is entirely possible to expose all the addresses held by an exchange for public audit. It's our duty as exchange users to constantly press for maximum transparency. We've had enough corrupt financial institutions.


Title: Re: FAKE BITCOINS
Post by: sherbyspark on December 06, 2014, 09:09:33 PM
I thought that a few days ago it was pointed out that some of the exchanges were using the bitcoins deposited to their site,

for other purposes which made it look like the number of bitcoins in existence was more.


Title: Re: FAKE BITCOINS
Post by: fewcoins on December 07, 2014, 04:11:47 AM
fewcoins, will you be here next year when bitcoin is up again or will you fake a convenient dissapareance to not face the shame?

Don't worry guys I will be around FOREVER! I know for a fact you guys will still be in denial when we test $300...
You guys have been in denial since the drop from $1,100!!! NOTHING NEW!!!
I am not surprised! I'm not going ANYWHERE since bitcoin has little bullshit pumps but continues to go down lower and lower and lower and lower and.......


Title: Re: FAKE BITCOINS
Post by: cbeast on December 07, 2014, 07:37:04 AM
It's almost time to get the mods to disappear you fewcoins. I don't know whether you are just stupid or underwater with some shorts. I don't care. Just ssssh and let adults converse in peace.

Next time do not write on my thread... go to one of the perma bull $999,999 per coin by 2015 threads.
Bye to you & your investment!

It's almost time to get the mods to disappear you fewcoins. I don't know whether you are just stupid or underwater with some shorts. I don't care. Just ssssh and let adults converse in peace.
It's almost time to get the mods to disappear you fewcoins. I don't know whether you are just stupid or underwater with some shorts. I don't care. Just ssssh and let adults converse in peace.

Next time do not write on my thread... go to one of the perma bull $999,999 per coin by 2015 threads.
Bye to you & your investment!

It's almost time to get the mods to disappear you fewcoins. I don't know whether you are just stupid or underwater with some shorts. I don't care. Just ssssh and let adults converse in peace.
It's almost time to get the mods to disappear you fewcoins. I don't know whether you are just stupid or underwater with some shorts. I don't care. Just ssssh and let adults converse in peace.

Next time do not write on my thread... go to one of the perma bull $999,999 per coin by 2015 threads.
Bye to you & your investment!

It's almost time to get the mods to disappear you fewcoins. I don't know whether you are just stupid or underwater with some shorts. I don't care. Just ssssh and let adults converse in peace.
I couldn't resist this thread because FOOD FIGHT!


Title: Re: FAKE BITCOINS
Post by: lyth0s on December 07, 2014, 08:49:19 AM
Wow fewcoins has gone full retard on us now. There are no fake bitcoins, just double counting of ownership and people lying about how many they actually have.

What ever happened to the higher-than-average IQ forum members? I feel we are simply surrounded by low IQ's and it's only going to get worse as bitcoin goes more mainstream.


Title: Re: FAKE BITCOINS
Post by: sherbyspark on December 07, 2014, 08:58:18 AM
Wow fewcoins has gone full retard on us now. There are no fake bitcoins, just double counting of ownership and people lying about how many they actually have.

What ever happened to the higher-than-average IQ forum members? I feel we are simply surrounded by low IQ's and it's only going to get worse as bitcoin goes more mainstream.

Its always going to happen, specially in the initial years.


Title: Re: FAKE BITCOINS
Post by: Elwar on December 07, 2014, 09:09:57 AM
posted in the Speculation forum for...what reason?

Someone is shorting.


Title: Re: FAKE BITCOINS
Post by: inca on December 07, 2014, 05:55:38 PM
posted in the Speculation forum for...what reason?

Someone is shorting.

As the 1W MACD is about to go green that is mighty stupid. He probably is underwater lol.


Title: Re: FAKE BITCOINS
Post by: maker88 on December 07, 2014, 05:56:41 PM
It's almost time to get the mods to disappear you fewcoins. I don't know whether you are just stupid or underwater with some shorts. I don't care. Just ssssh and let adults converse in peace.

Next time do not write on my thread... go to one of the perma bull $999,999 per coin by 2015 threads.
Bye to you & your investment!

if you dont want someone writing in one of your 6 threads with the same message, self moderate you stupid little bitch.


Title: Re: FAKE BITCOINS
Post by: alani123 on December 07, 2014, 05:57:35 PM
Seems to me like OP failed to understand the article. Why pay attention to him at all?


Title: Re: FAKE BITCOINS
Post by: piramida on December 07, 2014, 06:06:28 PM
What ever happened to the higher-than-average IQ forum members? I feel we are simply surrounded by low IQ's and it's only going to get worse as bitcoin goes more mainstream.

Internet was also once a place of mainly academic discussions and, later, unix kernel developers and sys admins chitchat. With mass adoption comes mass stupidity, no going around that.


Title: Re: FAKE BITCOINS
Post by: alani123 on December 07, 2014, 06:29:39 PM
What ever happened to the higher-than-average IQ forum members? I feel we are simply surrounded by low IQ's and it's only going to get worse as bitcoin goes more mainstream.

Internet was also once a place of mainly academic discussions and, later, unix kernel developers and sys admins chitchat. With mass adoption comes mass stupidity, no going around that.

I believe this started happening to bitcointalk even before mainstream adoption was discussed as a possibility. To me it was mostly bitcoin and altcoins becoming a money making tool to the eyes of people.


Title: Re: FAKE BITCOINS
Post by: Blazr on December 07, 2014, 07:26:19 PM
I believe this started happening to bitcointalk even before mainstream adoption was discussed as a possibility. To me it was mostly bitcoin and altcoins becoming a money making tool to the eyes of people.

Mainstream adoption was always a big topic here. This started happening once it wasn't possible to count all the different altcoins in existence. When signature campaigns started becoming a big thing, it drove it into overdrive as each dumb poster posted with lots of different accounts. Whats funny is that we can blame both of these problems on one person who started both of these trends.

I really do think if we ban the altcoin section and somehow force the altcoiners away and ban signature campaigns that we'd fix the problem.


Title: Re: FAKE BITCOINS
Post by: wobber on December 08, 2014, 04:21:29 AM
THIS IS CONFIRMED:

If you send a coin to yourself and back to that sending address, repeating the process a thousand times, blockchain will show TOTAL received 1000 BTC.

Do it and you can be rich! Even my grandma it's doing it and her life is so much happier now.


Title: Re: FAKE BITCOINS
Post by: fewcoins on December 08, 2014, 06:31:11 AM
What ever happened to the higher-than-average IQ forum members? I feel we are simply surrounded by low IQ's and it's only going to get worse as bitcoin goes more mainstream.

Internet was also once a place of mainly academic discussions and, later, unix kernel developers and sys admins chitchat. With mass adoption comes mass stupidity, no going around that.

I believe this started happening to bitcointalk even before mainstream adoption was discussed as a possibility. To me it was mostly bitcoin and altcoins becoming a money making tool to the eyes of people.

Correct, everyone will use their miners as money printing machines and won't stop until bitcoin transactions are super slow from everyone dropping out completely


Title: Re: FAKE BITCOINS
Post by: Wexlike on December 08, 2014, 07:07:51 AM
fewcoins just went full retard mode..  ::)

https://i.imgur.com/zH8DaPr.jpg


Title: Re: FAKE BITCOINS
Post by: Furio on December 08, 2014, 07:09:47 AM
Sad that you guys still have so much confidence when somehow there are over 21million coins ALREADY being traded... but we only mined 13mil right???

http://www.coindesk.com/many-bitcoins-making-sense-exaggerated-inventory-claims/ (http://www.coindesk.com/many-bitcoins-making-sense-exaggerated-inventory-claims/)

Dude, are your really that naive? Offcourse the financial industry woulod want to spread those lies, so they can get back to manipulating, if they can convince the masses that it can be done with bitcoin...


Title: Re: FAKE BITCOINS
Post by: OptimusPrime7 on December 08, 2014, 10:10:45 AM
Over 21 million coins traded doesn't really mean anything, I can just buy and sell and buy and sell doing day trade all night long..


Title: Re: FAKE BITCOINS
Post by: sgbett on December 08, 2014, 11:05:48 AM
fewcoins just went full retard mode..  ::)

https://i.imgur.com/zH8DaPr.jpg

I wonder if its his final form. The title of this thread is pretty special.

It's come to the point where its making me feel more and more confident that his underlying analysis is totally wrong. The OP shows a fundamental lack of understanding of how bitcoin works. To fewcoins credit I don't think anyone can really be that genuinely clueless, so it can only be ulterior motive.

In either case it reveals to everyone that his mantra of bitcoin going to zero cannot be taken seriously. If it's genuinely what he believes then I don't think its very credible as his opinion has been formed in a mind no more advanced than a small child. Thats the nicest way I can put it.

So which is it fewcoins, do you really not understand why your first post is so far off the mark? or, as seems to be obvious to everyone - are you just trying to keep the price depressed by spamming up the spec board with negative spin?


Title: Re: FAKE BITCOINS
Post by: fewcoins on December 09, 2014, 06:46:24 AM
I can't depress the price are you guys kidding me... I have been trying to warn you guys all week about this 8% drop today. Don't let little bounces like tomorrow's fool you! I'm still very bearish  8)


Title: Re: FAKE BITCOINS
Post by: piramida on December 09, 2014, 08:23:05 AM
I believe this started happening to bitcointalk even before mainstream adoption was discussed as a possibility. To me it was mostly bitcoin and altcoins becoming a money making tool to the eyes of people.

Mainstream adoption was always a big topic here. This started happening once it wasn't possible to count all the different altcoins in existence. When signature campaigns started becoming a big thing, it drove it into overdrive as each dumb poster posted with lots of different accounts. Whats funny is that we can blame both of these problems on one person who started both of these trends.

I really do think if we ban the altcoin section and somehow force the altcoiners away and ban signature campaigns that we'd fix the problem.

Also the newbie section lock was a great thing. You at least had to prove you can compose a coherent post before they let you out into the wild. And it made creating clone accounts after you are banned a tedious process, that would help against this fallling-fewcoin-dumbalt idiocy spreading.

Or maybe nothing will help this forum anymore; like a great Rome once, it is being overrun by barbarians ;)


Title: Re: FAKE BITCOINS
Post by: fewcoins on December 10, 2014, 12:06:31 AM
^ People like you will be the last one's holding the bag & talking about what a great experience it was with the e-gold guys... Reminiscing on the old days when good cold hard earned cash was traded for meaningless computer numbers!  :'(


Title: Re: FAKE BITCOINS
Post by: Blazr on December 10, 2014, 12:57:21 PM
^ People like you will be the last one's holding the bag & talking about what a great experience it was with the e-gold guys... Reminiscing on the old days when good cold hard earned cash was traded for meaningless computer numbers!  :'(

ROFL, you know you should spend more then 8 seconds researching something before you post about it.


Title: Re: FAKE BITCOINS
Post by: Rassah on December 10, 2014, 01:12:57 PM
The list that that article points to, found here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=321265.0, is woefully incorrect. I know some of the people on that list, and I know they don't own that many bitcoins.


Title: Re: FAKE BITCOINS
Post by: cr1776 on December 10, 2014, 01:16:10 PM
fewcoins, will you be here next year when bitcoin is up again or will you fake a convenient dissapareance to not face the shame?

There will be a new thread in a couple of years:
"interest in Bitcoin down, under $5000 again this weekend?"

"Bitcoin transaction volume down to levels not seen since 2016, price falling to $4000???"

Etc.


Title: Re: FAKE BITCOINS
Post by: Blazr on December 10, 2014, 02:45:06 PM
There will be a new thread in a couple of years:
"interest in Bitcoin down, under $5000 again this weekend?"

"Bitcoin transaction volume down to levels not seen since 2016, price falling to $4000???"

Etc.

Anyone remember the drop from $7 to $4 back in late 2011/early 2012?

Back then there were tons of people preaching things like:
"bitcoin is going to $0, short everything on Bitcoinica" - yeah great advice that was!


Title: Re: FAKE BITCOINS
Post by: Furio on December 10, 2014, 02:58:34 PM
There will be a new thread in a couple of years:
"interest in Bitcoin down, under $5000 again this weekend?"

"Bitcoin transaction volume down to levels not seen since 2016, price falling to $4000???"

Etc.

Anyone remember the drop from $7 to $4 back in late 2011/early 2012?

Back then there were tons of people preaching things like:
"bitcoin is going to $0, short everything on Bitcoinica" - yeah great advice that was!

The truth is that crypto is so way ahaed of it's time, that no-one can predict it's outcome. I do believe the shitstorm that governments are going to start against crypto haven't even been started, we will see banning and prosecuting of people using crypto


Title: Re: FAKE BITCOINS
Post by: NotLambchop on December 10, 2014, 03:34:17 PM
...
Anyone remember the drop from $7 to $4 back in late 2011/early 2012?

Back then there were tons of people preaching things like:
"bitcoin is going to $0, short everything on Bitcoinica" - yeah great advice that was!

Let the memories you cherish
      comfort you in your time of grief


       https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTdjgw25Li5_W17H12_aBcabEf8ChA11KzFfhj9Q0CBLjDx79oyZw

But seriously tho, time to let it go & move on.


Title: Re: FAKE BITCOINS
Post by: RodeoX on December 10, 2014, 03:37:55 PM
Sadly, it's time to add fewcoins to the ignore list. I kinda liked reading his funny theories, but since it's always the same the sparkle is wearing off.


Title: Re: FAKE BITCOINS
Post by: botany on December 11, 2014, 05:52:44 AM
fewcoins, will you be here next year when bitcoin is up again or will you fake a convenient dissapareance to not face the shame?

There will be a new thread in a couple of years:
"interest in Bitcoin down, under $5000 again this weekend?"

"Bitcoin transaction volume down to levels not seen since 2016, price falling to $4000???"

Etc.

Man I hope I hold my bitcoins until then.
I discovered bitcoins when the price was ~$600.
Had I discovered it when the price was over $1000, I would have been a lot more cynical about bitcoins.