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Ive mainly included the well known ones here and some of the bigger players in 2.0 currencies etc.

Ill add anything else you suggest below, and yes ive added some that i feel are doomed for failure, but know there is lots of support.

Please include “Great Empire (https://rgeo5wj7gneidzh3.onion.lt) Coin (Writcoin™ (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=776426.0))” in this poll.

add unobtanium to the list please. Thank you.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=527500.0

added

The only one I have faith in now is bitcoin. I bought into a few alts when I started but they all failed me and was left dissapointed with the false promises and hype. Now I only think bitcoin has a future.

thx

Well i would have thought the same, but i think there is room for others.

I do agree that alot have been pumped and then dumped by speculators, alot have no innovation.
Coins such as namecoin do actually serve a useful purpose, so its safe to say that these will be around in the future.

Dont really know what will happen with Litecoin, there are lots more options for investors now, i dont think that POW coins are sustainable in the long term either, too much computing power and electricity being consumed, i can see that mining BTC will be unprofitable if it declines much more.

That explains why you added Paycoin

BitShares

I'm surprised that BitSharesX isn't on that list because it's one of the biggest players in the 2.0 game. It's original source so it isn't based on Bitcoin. It has market-pegged assets, DACs, and a unique proof-of-stake design.

19 Crypto 2.0 Projects to Watch in 2015 (http://www.coindesk.com/19-crypto-2-0-projects-watch-2015/)

None

without NXT, that is a joke.

I was surprised to see that NXT isn't mentioned there but I guess everyone already knows about it now. He talks about NXT in this article (http://www.coindesk.com/crypto-2-0-2015-turning-bitcoin-theory-big-business/) which explores the same theme.

NXT is a fcking joke, the coin has a shady background, accused of scams, definitely not something worth looking into in 2015 and it has been around for a long time and didn't really got traction besides having annoying nxt trolls. lol at nxt sock puppets up voting the first comment.

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My favourite bit was the detail.

Bitcoin's gotta succeed for anything else on that list to succeed.

Seems to me the writers of this article have only chosen the coins they like to promote!   ;D

No single word about NXT or NEM or another faithful venture.

You forgot BitShares !

At least check out coinmarketcap next time.

can you explain why?

http://bitswift.io/

Bitswift by a MILE...this coin has tons going for it and devs are working hard behind the scenes.  So much coming out in the coming month(s), it will put most other coins to shame (almost does already lol).

Buy and hold, it's only going up...they're making sure of that ;).

Don't say I didn't give you a heads up.

If it can be shown that a solid cryptocurrency with 98% (nearly total) marketshare, with it's corresponding network effect and fearsome hashrate, can fail..  the idea that artificially scarce code can reliably store value will have been permanently shattered.

So when the new king is crowned with 60% marketshare, people are not going to buy it, literally and figuratively.

i see your point but i think you paint it a bit too black. After all bitcoin was no 'store of value' - if it would have been that, we would now not be in this miserable situation. You talk about 'artificial scarcity' but bitcoin was not and for a long time will not be 'scarce' - that's the main problem.

Maybe not one but 3 or 4 kings are crowned? People have a choice and the best wins. Like a horse race. People will understand that and crypto will be treated for what it is: a risky investement in a new tech. One or two decades down the road things may be more manifested. I don't see a problem with abandoning bitcoin at all. Not abandoning it would cause a fail of the whole industry. Bitcoin can still hold a decent marketcap without being the primary coin. It's the free market and evolution - there's nothing wrong with that and it's authentic. Nothing will be shattered. Forcing a coin onto people that is nonsense from an economic and also from a darwinistic standpoint is BS. If bitcoin after this past years performance would remain number 1 all this industry would have lost credibility.
We have learned a few lessons from it so it was good.
Time to move on ...
protip:
Next time use a coin that doesn't dump all year long so the point with the 'artificial scarce code' can be made once again.
It's an evolving, evolutionary process. Believing something else is madness.

Nothing is set in stone.

"Panta rhei" my friend. You would be surprised to hear all these 'permabulls' were selling all the time while telling you how bitcoin will be the big thing. Only trust your own judgement - never let yourself be influenced by what others say because they sell you all kinds of bullshit. Bitcoin-pumpers are no exception.

Bitshares!

coindesk is biased. Listening to them has always been a way to loose money. They are the same as the bitcoin-pumpers. They tell you in their articles what they have their money on  ::)
If they don't have a stake in it, they don't write about it. Pretty useless website if you ask me.
You can use them as a sellindicator like the blonde on twitter. When they start to hype a coin it's time to get out normally.
Pretty sure they can be bribed too.

NEM
and
SUPERNET

Clams.. among a few other proof of stake coins..

Was a fair initial distribution model (if you had btc, ltc or doge back around May, odds are you have clams!),
has good control of inflation and becoming accepted at more places.

Go clams!

 

BTC and NXT!!

I think we basically agree. I don't think bitcoin can fail as in go to zero for no good reason and be replaced by another big (billion dollar) cryptocurrency and so on in a cycle of total failure after succession after total failure. I think succession in cryptocurrency has to mirror the example of empires in world hisgtory.

The Roman empire can wane, and the Holy Roman Empire can replace it but Italian powers are still a thing. Still a force to be reckoned with.

The British empire can wane and America rises but the United Kingdom is still a thing. It's still a force.

Every dynasty in China claims to hold the "heavenly mandate." The divine right to rule. Legitimacy.

As you said, you can have bitcoin wane and lose marketshare to some novel, useful technologies, but it'll still be considered a success if it survives and holds a decent marketcap.

But if bitcoin fails completely, then I believe that the legitimacy of cryptocurrency is irredeemably compromised. And that's what I mean. If bitcoin's not a success, nothing will be a success. Every novel blockchain-based cryptocurrency is flowing forth from the tradition of bitcoin.

No,  bitcoin can fail and something can rise up to replace it being more of a success.  
Look at other technologies,  like search engines.  

Before google there was crappy stuff like altavista, yahoo and those are still around,  but google rose up to be a success.
Just because the earlier search engines more or less failed.. it didn't mean nothing else was going to come along.

The market & majority of popularity/population decides, not you.  

it won't go to zero in a splitsecond. The market is just governed by supply and demand. The free market is the real thing. You can't argue against it without looking like a fool. Every Coin is governed by the same supply/demand game.
I think 50$ for a Bitcoin can be had throughout the year. Will it reach 1000$ soon? Probably not although you never know. In the meantime we'll make profit with other things and everyone will be more than happy to finally be out of this bearmarket. If bitcoin doesn't come out ahead this time it's no big deal. Even a complete fail would not end the industry although it would look much better to the general public if it would gradually decline instead of just crash and i think it will do exactly that. It's still good for transactions even if it can't hold the value so it won't be totally useless and abandoned by next week but it will have to face the competition.
It's all going to turn out ok in the end i am sure.
What needs to be achieved is some kind of better climate in the forum and more cooperation between the legit coins and not so much trashing each other of good projects. But i am confident we can get there when there's profit for everyone again.
Most important for everyone will be to bring down the number of scams and bring up the number of legit longterm projects so the PR for all crypto doesn't suffer more than it already did.

Bitcoin will have pump and dump value for at least another year would be my expectation.

nxt and nem to watch in 2015? no way, they have a shady background with annoying shills and no future

This may just be semantics, because I consider Altavista and Yahoo to be successes. Yahoo is still running shit in Japan, Taiwan, and a few other places. They've lost prominence but they are undeniable successes. So yes, I agree that bitcoin can become equivalent to a Yahoo. Some people consider that a failure. I don't.

which makes me think different cryptocoins can be dominant in different parts of the world. They all will be more or less accepted everywhere but china will maybe prefer another coin than the US for example. The competition takes place on many levels. I think competition is necessary for evolution and a healthy thing as long as we keep it civilised.
In the end of the day it's supply and demand in the free market. No exception.

Hmm...don't see BitShares on that list...my vote goes there.

Oh, for sure. "Ybcoin" is a total enigma in the Anglosphere. Westerners don't even know what the hell it is, yet it's got a multi-million dollar market cap. It's totally Chinese.

there you go  ;)

Well here's the truth: it tends to be whichever one they're invested in.  Which hopefully is the strongest coin most of the time.

Id like to vote for Unobtanium!

At this point, I would have to say Ripple (xrp). Seems to be the one with any kind of legitimacy.

Nothing says legitimacy like a giant premine arbitrarily distributed by a for-profit company.

Boo this man! BOOOOO!

guldencoin  8)

gotta be vior

I'm going by performance to date. Ties with banks. Ever increasing value. How many other coins have that going for them?

I bought Ripple just to play with. My xrp is looking pretty healthy now unlike all of the other coins I own. Surprised me too.

Oh, how could we have forgotten guldencoin and vior? Amazing that we got to page 3 without mentioning those up-and-coming coins. Must've slipped op's mind.

Ripple's price has gone up. I am only addressing "legitimacy."

Fair enough. Please list coins with banking ties so I can buy some.

Monero, Ethereum ... the ones that come to mind. I might be wrong though ...

Why are you so against making money off of XRP now to buy whatever else you want later, legitimate or not? I guess you're scared Ripple Labs will dump 50billion coins on the market and destroy their own funding?  Does you logic make sense  ???

Fair enough.

Bitcoin
http://www.wsj.de/nachrichten/SB11186790908283423711204580254242060320492
http://dcmagnates.com/fidor-kraken-expanding-cooperation-to-build-worlds-first-crypto-currency-bank/

Los! Geh, geh es kaufen.

have added bitshares

Please add Opal:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=778720.0
http://www.opal-coin.com/news/2014/12/opal-roadmap-december-2014/

http://i57.tinypic.com/2u6lgsx.jpg
...
Happy new year all !

ripple,ethereum,bitshares

Not surprised that there is no RDD Reddcoin in there ...

            Please add Clam.  Thanks! 


https://i.imgur.com/fPfm4mD.jpg

Quite a NEMTASTIC poll  8)
lol@namecoin

as i see it, bitcoin will be no1 for long time. sure there could be some suprises in future but i think all other alts can only compete for possition after bitcoin.

+1 to BitShares
https://bitsharestalk.org

Of course, bitshares is one of the most anticipated thing in 2015

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=916451.msg10064315#msg10064315

BitShares
I hold a year
https://bitsharestalk.org

NEM has a bright future!  8)

BTC is a 10% TAX PER EVERY $1 INVESTED

No matter how much money you pour into BTC.  No matter how much the BTC price rises or falls.

Until BTC halves about 5 times it is a giant tax to the miners.  Do you think the world is willing to wait 20years?

Do Uno of any super low inflationary SHA 256 coins that the billion dollar plus SHA 256 mining network can switch over to?

hey guys what is the ticker name of bitshares i want to buy some. is it available on trex? is it the same with bitsharex?

vior....

BitShares!  All the way to Alpha Centauri and beyond...

I vote for NEM  新经币
NEM  New Economy Movement    XEM as the currency code.
NEM is the only cryptocurrency that I have faith in.

Monero is the one.

What about shadow surely the best anon coin should be on the list.

Bitcoin, NXT, Bitshares, maybe NEM and Monero. Actually I do net have "faith" in any coins but IMO these are the best coins currently.

BitShares, the fact that it is so high up on coinmarketcap and people still forget to add it to lists like these is just more evidence that it is undervalued

I am BIG FAN of bitshares! Bytemaster  go!

what do you guys think about bitcoin, has it potential?

Only BTC.

Mining btc becoming centralised....yuchie........POS or POI.....mmmmm. I think Proof of Importance will win over in the end......New Economic Movement......its coming.....be there or be square !!!!!

NODE is missing on the list

Node ?

Uno because it beats bitcoin in the 'store of value' part and in transactionspeed. It's less volatile too which solves another big problem of BTC. Its bearmarkets are way shorter. Thanks to its fairness it can do literally anything and not even the sky is the limit.
Heads-up, has great things coming for it. Uno gets it right.

XPY, XSP, SBIT, CANN, BAY, URO, SDC, VTC, DRK, BC, SJCX, MANGOS, GEMZ (unsure bout this one but it looks good), ZIFT

vior, sbit and maybe gemz it looks promising

I am excited about NEM.  For the first time in crypto there will be a fairly even and widespread distribution.  It will be a really neat experiment because the pumpers and dumpers won't be able to pawn it like can or already have every single coin on that list but NEM.

NODE Coin - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=590421.0

It has been released for some months now.

Fast confirmations (less than 1 minute), devs have been actively updating the coin and keep people in the loop, NODE to FIAT and BTC gateway coming soon (they are working on NodeBank which will make the integration possible).

It is being traded on BTER right now.

NeosCoin missing.

there will be only one winner....

NEM

Been a long time, since I stopped following altcoins, I think most people know about only doge and litecoin, so I will have faith in them.
Others might be good too, but will doubtly last a lot longer.

Node....oh yes , I forgot to dump my stake.....it might pay for my next haircut...

ColossusCoin 2.0

I can only trust something I have built myself.

Nem is definitely the one to watch.

The developers have been working hard to make Nem a success, and it looks very promising.

Great community too   :)

Sad to see this type of attitude in crypto scene when we are all working towards the same goal and have the same people against us (bankers, regulators, greed).

I hold a good amount of NEM also, but you don't see me ashing other coins.

And yes I was there when UtopianFuture announced it for the first time and even saw the whole drama behind UtopianFuture when he was found out that he had made multiple sock puppets to pump NEM up.

I expect better attitude from you kodtycoon, your true character shows now.

Post a pic when you've had your Nxt haircut!  :)

There should be Node in the #3 place. Then it would be perfect.

NXT for me - no doubt. Best platform I've ever been on as far as crypto is concerned. Love the AE and really like the MAC client.

.

Only NEM (XEM) :)

Small miscommunication happened, that's all.

No offense taken.

why cant i vote?

NXT

And by built yourself you mean forked from Novacoin, which was forked from Peercoin, which was forked from Bitcoin. So really what you mean is, "I can only trust something that I tweaked the block reward structure for myself", right?

NEM.

The results of this poll are more surprising to me than i thought although i do somewhat agree with the results so far.

Interesting that there appears to be little interest in Ethereum, will be interesting to see what comes out of it.

The only platform that innovates constantly and delivers its promises. NXT!! It is also undervalued and will stay this way until all inital stakeholders finsh selling their NXT. So everybody, cheap coins are up for grabs! :)

NXT is most decentralized crypto that's around.
Not that centralization is always bad but you get the idea.

Well we all got into the crypto because of the centralization issues so I would say that being decentralized is pretty important.

you need a certain amount of activity in the forums

Some semi-centralized system might have some importance short term or during the transition period, so I agree as well that being decentralized is very important in the long run.

I guess the truth is at least 80% are here for a quick buck and couldnt care less if something is decentralised or not.

Voted for NXT.

edit: didnt see BTC was an option, thought it was altcoins only. In that case clearly BTC. But there is no reason why there can only be one crypto.

Definitely not bitcoin with it's PoW (Proof-of-Waste). I believe in NXT and NEM. NXT has a great platform. NEM is launching soon with it's PoI (Proof-of-Importance) algorithm.
Our global economy has room for both NXT and NEM.

My vote is for the New Economy Movement.

vior, shadowcoin,sbit,nem,vtr maybe

vior xmr drk blk nxt

NXT is definitely the best, lots of real features you have it now. And lots of features you will have on a clear plan and always run ontime. Before, I had to change my nxt to btc to cash it. Now that is also not required and every body can cash NXT to local currencies very simple and directly. Don't miss it, while it is still cheap, it may rise a lot soon.

kimdotcom i mean kimoto chan (The DOC) creator of the KGW (Kimoto Gravity Well) which lead to over 100 coins adding the KGW. Megacoin went to $3 a coin last year, right now you can get some at a bargain price BUT not for long as the doc is back with some new projects and we heading back to the top.

My vote is for MEGACOIN, the DOC (kimoto)

Oh and for all of you who dont know him, this should help.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3YL83Qy778

snakey

I voted for Nxt because it is probably the most undervalued and misinterpreted "coin" around. I must quote that word because Nxt is not (just) a coin but a fully new, modular, flexible and scalable blockchain ecosystem that allows 3rd party apps on top of it and a diversity of uses that far exceed the mere criptocurrency. It is really a "sleeper" at this point. If you are not interested in pumps&dumps but prefer long term investments in serious tech with real value, you must buy Nxt now while it's still cheap! Or at least visit the forum and learn about all the projects that make use of Nxt's blockchain.

I voted for NEM.

Digitalcoin (DGC), but it doesn't on the list. >:(

You forgot BURST.

Bitcoin is the only one I have faith in currently. It has merchant adoption behind it and media attention whereas alts don't. They're just essentially for people who missed the bitcoin boat and want to try find the next big thing.

for sure there are going to be the next big thing. maybe not as big as btc cause btc has become the standard or gold of the cryptos
but for sure there will be coins which is valued under half a dollar and can reach maybe 10 dollars each. that will still be a lot of profit

voted :-)

guess who for?

burst? hahahaah

my Vote is for NEM

Yeah I think so too. A few alts will make it.

From the current list I would say NEM, Bitcoin, and maybe counterparty.

It's hilarious how few votes paycoin has. PayCON should be put on the list, it will get more votes  ;D

Bitcoin and Next will continue to emerge and develop into a more user friendly application

the NXT wallet is kinda slow and laggy in weaker laptops and pc's tho.  their devs should work on that if they want wider adoption.

Think the list is missing some great coins!
Check out the votingresults from POH (coinssource)
You see some great devs there and their coin are missing here!
 ???

Using Bitcoin as payment is the worst Idea ever.

That's why NXT is releasing Monetary System tomorrow. That way you can create currencies backed by NXT and spend them instead of NXT.

Anyone who doesn't answer BTC is obviously deluded and pumping their altcoin.

My delusion is with XMR though.

You mean compared to Bitcoin?
Where a cold wallet might take hours to catch up on a few weeks?

Bitcoin keeps getting hacked because BTC cold wallets are unusable.

I've never seen anything "slow or laggy" with NXT, it's fast and slick...
Now doing > 100 transactions/minute and nowhere near capacity.

As the Monetary System comes on line in about 24 hours...
People can now launch an Alt using the Nxt API = Game Changer...
There will be 100s or 1000s of currencies created in the next few weeks.

The flood of NXT Alts created will trade on a NXT Currency Exchange...
And picking the few winners will be like hitting the jackpot.

http://nxt.org/the-ecosystem/monetary-system/

http://nxter.org/nxt-core-monetary-system/

hahha nxt vs btc dont hate/fight! switch to vior,sbit,sdc hahahaaa

potcoin  ;)

Darkcoin seems like the most likely to survive under any circumstances. Even if bitcoin and the other altcoins die do to lack of interest or a regulatory crackdown, criminals will still need a way to transmit money anonymously online.

i see, uno still flies under the radar

I go with NEM.

Can you explain why using bitcoin for payment is the worst idea ever? As a currency isn't that exactly what it's meant to be used for? I don't see how creating more currencies is a solution to anything either.

DigiByte is officially turning 1 year old today! DigiByte was successfully launched on January 10th 2014 at 12 PM MST. This marks 12 months of consistent, committed development. As such we fit in perfectly on this list. We are here to stay for the long haul.

Over the course of the past 12 months DigiByte has endured 3 separate hard forks, several updates and a very turbulent alt coin market. Through all this DigiByte is emerging as a dedicated leader in the digital currency space. We are working on several exciting projects to push DigiByte forward in 2015 and we are very excited for what the future holds!

We are very committed to the long term success of DigiByte and we warmly welcome everyone into the Digibyte community!

In engineering, fiction, and thought experiments, Unobtainum is any fictional, extremely rare, costly, or impossible material, or (less commonly) device needed to fulfill a given design for a given application.

Unobtainum's price today is 2.27USD/Unit, maybe it will rock the boat soon, stay tuned :D

I only believe in coins that have the strongest community support and that are nonetheless bitcoin and dogecoin. Forget about technology it's the people that is supporting it that makes the difference. Too bad I can't select both at the same time in this pool

bitcoin suffers decay and now a hardfork for more blockchain bloat should be coming https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=919629.0
10-fold blocksize. haha
Megalomaniac bitcoiners are loosing it. Bitcoin is done.

It will take a while until BTC doesn't die, don't worry!! All other coins better hope this doesn't happen soon!!

I think and hope also : unobtanium.

i think bitcoin is good choice for me

have added Magi to the poll

Pls add vior to the poll.

Thanks for adding Magi.
For your information check also the results of the PoH 2014. The genius dev of the coin of the magi, Joe Lao finished there on the 4 spot. Thats huge achievement for a young coin like Magi.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=920053.msg10107496#msg10107496

FTFY  ;D

ShadowCash because there will always be a niche for top anon coins.

BTC? Anonymouse developer has left, community takeovers always do fail. Heavily, with a THUD!
There's a premine bag left that could get dumped anytime.
High inflation due to daily miner dumping. Prise falling now all year long. Willybot pump from Gox is over, it seems.

guldencoin is the best for all i'm holding a lot!

Why is shadow not on the list?

Nxt and NEM is the future! And Emunie + Ethereum

Yes i did mine Digibyte on launch, i sonce sold all my DGB and put it into NXT, i may buy a few more and hold on to them, but there are so many coins to choose from and i have been steering towards 2.0 currencies personally, but i wish you well for your endevaour.

this is a great poll that says worlds about the quality of Con talk.org these days.

: )

how about that LTC BTC price tho? ....

Thank you! The definition of "2.0" is an interesting discussion. Many projects can be considered 2.0 systems including DigiByte.

I say bitcoin. Too much money being thrown into btc's infrastructure.

to be honest, nothing at the moment. i have faith in bitcoin but it is diminishing especially when i saw 170$ :D
after that i am interested in NXT

Why don´t you add BURST, the first HDD-mined currency, and the first in implementing Automated transacations (aka: Smart Contracts)?

(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=731923.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=731923.0))

tks.

Paycoin

I have a good faith on dogecoin easy to have and the second most recognize altcoin.

Paycoin(XPY).
 Paycoin will be selected as the best payment method in the near future.

Digibyte (very good futures & practic)

Digibyte, Good dev team, in for the long run.

Paycoin

Sincerely, DigiByte is the best long term option.
Don't be late while it is cheap!

DGB delivers!

Paycoin/Dogecoin

100% Digibyte!

Not bitcoin for sure right now..... Doge coin ftw just wait some time

Nice job Nxt :D

not bitcoin - everything else is under value

please add viorcoin

Viorcoin
Amazing technology to let you video chat with stealth transactions on your phone with a hidden number!

I firmly believe bitcoin will be the long term leader of crypto but it is just an opinion. Still nobody else is throwing angel funds at cryptos other than bitcoin.

http://www.coindesk.com/digibyte-raises-250k-altcoin-retail-payments/

That is a start but when you take into comparison bitcoin's cumulative 410mil that comes to about 0.0006% of bitcoin's venture funding.

http://www.coindesk.com/venture-capital-funding-bitcoin-startups-triples-2014/

How big whas the investment in bitcoins first year?
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I simply do not believe the results of this "vote".

This thread has to be a paid thread.

I'm not denying alts are getting investments i'm just saying the comparison is fractional at best.

I started this thread and i can assure you that i have not been paid or rewarded anything for creating this.....

Monero?, NEMM?, Digibite?, etc.

http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/2012/12/lol.gif

I can just imagine the desperate developers on these desperate projects signing up, clearing their cookies, getting a new IP off their home router, voting.

Pathetic.

cmon guys!! you're posting in BITCOINtalk....

One day, bitcoin will mean crypto.

And bitcointalk will allow discussion of all cryptocurrencies in all sections, or it will be replaced by something else...

This thread is the biggest load of bullcrap I've ever seen.

And I've seen a lot of bullcrap on here.

For a proper overview of what's going on with altcoins, look at:

https://www.coingecko.com

The end.

Bitcoin all the way . I don't see how people would pick other ones.

Sigh.

I've been around here longer than you.

You need to keep on top of developments.

I think you are right. The mods will say "we need to keep things organised, otherwise those interested in BTC will be over run with altcoin threads." Which is true.

But then why not create a "Crypto - General" sub forum at the top of the page? Then anyone from anywhere can discuss anything. Things stay as organised as they are today and there is the benefit of some mixing between altcoiners and the "All sh!tcoins are sh!t, we can do that with sidechains" cru. (N.B. when I read this I see "I'm unhappy, hopefully we can do what they are doing today in 1-3 years when sidechains are implemented, assuming we are still relevant then"


The reason they don't add a mixed forum so all ideas can slosh around together is because the current separation is protectionism. It intended to keep a majority of bitcoiners and their investors ignorant. There is a lot of good stuff going on in altcoins, it is a hydra and they are afraid they won't be able to keep up.


Here is the best example I have seen for what I am talking about, the ignorance and arrogance competing at higher and higher levels: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=827725.0

You might think this is 18-24 months old but it is from October 2014 It is also one of my most favourite threads  ;D

The AltCoin section is like the wild wild west here where everything goes, ride your innovation horse to freedom and hope you don't lose your house along the way.

It is surprising to see NXT, NEM, XMR getting more votes than BTC.

Have people completely lost faith in Bitcoin?

Yes

I have

hahah, joke ???

Anonymous developer has left, account got hacked. Community takeover now, which always fails. Development stalled. Price declining steadily.

You have to ballance risks.

Still sticking with Bitcoin & Litecoin only, the others might be ok for short term speculations for pump and dump.

Which crypto are you referring to here?

Bitcoin has no competition. Zero, none.

Listen to me for once. If you want to invest on stable coin go for bitcoin. All other coins will come and go. Some are very good but competition in crypto is not something you want..it'll kill all the good coins in coming future. Too many scams, too many shill accounts, too much fuds. Bitcoin has limited amount of those. It's the MOST difficult coin to miine and still values 1000x more than most crypto out there.

Invest in BTC you will never be disappointed.

So which one is your favourite?

Mangocoinz.

no bullshit. no drama and it's doing something that NONE of the other crypto can do. All others just copying bitcoin while mangocoinz is thinking out of the box and it'll get MOST visibility you have ever seen in crypto. Any average joe can mine it..if you can jerk off you can mine mangocoinz.

Go on then, what can it do that no other crypto can do...  ;D  (feels like I'm in a knock knock joke  :D)

Really?

Frankly, you're coming across as a die-hard Bitcoin absolutist.

Vitalik refers to this as "Bitcoin Maximalism"

https://blog.ethereum.org/2014/11/20/bitcoin-maximalism-currency-platform-network-effects

Ripple / XRP

Adoption by banks and payments networks is underway---driven by an immediately relevant use case. Ripple has potential to replace the slow, archaic, and expensive correspondent banking system---leveling the playing field for everyone.

Network transactions clear within 5 seconds, inclusive of distributed exchange functionality and cross-currency payments. Any currency may be represented and transacted on the network, providing enormous value beyond XRP (yet, while also being supportive of the value of XRP, due to its utility in also facilitating non-XRP transactions).

Ripple is increasingly cited by industry foundations and publications, from the W3C through NACHA.

30+ engineers are employed by Ripple Labs to support the technical success of the network/protocol, core tech, integrations, and related projects (such as Codius (https://codius.org/)). Business experts are driving adoption. Regulatory experts are helping to clear a path.

Chris Larsen, at the helm of Ripple Labs, has the experience, track record, and passion (https://xrptalk.org/topic/5078-chris-larsen-does-the-stereotype-match-the-evidence/) necessary to make it happen. Everything is consistent with the long term vision he has expressed---prior to even beginning at Ripple Labs. It would be easy to write him off as an idealistic daydreamer or even a naive earnest hippy, if not for his prior success helping catalyze and advocate for community driven financial reform.

Can you not see the survey results??? 13 votes. 2%...

I would hazard a guess that the Ripple Labs folks are busy working on the important stuff that matters (i.e. not wasting their time signing up to bitcointalk.org, voting on a survey, clearing their cookies, signing up again, etc.) The work done by Ripple Labs speaks for itself - they don't need shills and/or increasingly desperate Xcoin developers trying to promote their flawed coins.

I cursed out loud when I read "Still sticking with Bitcoin & Litecoin only". I mean what kind of an idiot would put all their eggs in a dying and a dead basket and then exclude (for no apparent reason) all other cryptocurrency developments?

It's interesting that how some people still have hope in an almost expired technology!

I agree about Ripple Labs being focused in other areas. I think you nailed it.

I see the survey results and smile. I see opportunity. Ripple is succeeding, despite popular opinion, and the prevailing popular opinion seems to be based on widespread misunderstanding.

I have not known popular opinion to be a solid reference for almost anything cryptocurrency related :)

It's funny how that expired technology values 10000x more than most crypto even after it goes through hard dump. It's funnier how all crypto goes red when that old technology decides to take a dump meanwhile that old technology doesn't get affected by other crypto.  ;D

It's surveys like this is the reason bitcointalk's reputation is on the floor.

Monero... NEMM... Lol

i only have faith on 2 coins
BTC and LTC

HLOD!!

Only problem with BTC is there is no innovation.

Its already a dinosaur before it even has got of the ground.

Bitcoin is a lovely old steam engine.

I have faith in Bitshares because of its large capitalization.

+1

guldencoin

NXT because it has the most usable features.

Why not add CannabisCoin (CANN)?
http://cannabiscoin.net/

We just need bigger community!

Yes and that is just one of many reasons to choose NXT  ;D

you say nxt but its not for the nxt wallet that burst coin is made is clearly the nxt coin i belive i can be a good coin but bitcoin can beat that

I have to agree !

Why does Litecoin still hold #3 in marketcap ill never know! lol

Ripple, as it is backed by a central entity with huge reserves. Sad to say, but the only ones with big chance of success are the ones which are highly centralised and can perform efficiently.

Nah Ripple is shit, it has no appeal whatsoever, Bitcoin is the cool coin.

Also obviously people is coordinating to vote other coins that aren't Bitcoin in the poll lol.

The fact that 100 billion coins are pre-printed and in the hands of the founding company should be a big enough red flag for everybody to not touch Ripple. Nuff said.

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1ezeil/exposing_the_ripple_scam/

Ripple doesnt interest me the slightest, i could have invested in it while it was cheap and made $$$ but i didnt for a reason, expect a dump, ripple is just controlled by a small group of bankers with money to burn...

I am surprised to see the number of people voting for NXT, NEM and XMR are actually much higher than those voting for BTC.

Easily explained

Very few bitcoiners will see this thread (less will bother to vote as there are many polls out there). Many altcoiners believe POW days are numbered.

Highly possible. I know many long-time Bitcoiners have even put the alt-coin section on ignore list and won't even see this thread, let alone voting on it.

I voted for Bitcoin of course.

I don't agree with his point that Bitcoin should be the only coin in existence. Although I doubt the current situation of 1,000+ clonecoins is what Satoshi had in mind, he did recognize the validity of altcoins that serve a useful function when he contributed to the development of Namecoin - a decentralized DNS system independent of Bitcoin.

That being said, it would be unfair to categorize Bitcoin as a dinosaur either. There are plenty of new developments happening, e.g. sidechains and anonymous tech such as Zerocash. Then you also have projects like Counterparty, Mastercoin, and Colored Coins which aim to provide new features while building on top of the Bitcoin blockchain. The official GitHub repository is quite active too:

http://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/graphs/contributors

Feature-wise, Bitcoin is conservative by typical altcoin standards but this approach makes sense since there is a lot more money at stake. I have seen altcoins that tried to implement a feature unsuccessfully (e.g. LottoShares' lottery mechanism, Crypti's proof-of-time algorithm, etc.) and their market caps took huge hits when the technology failed. Furthermore, Bitcoin - being a generalized rather than a highly specialized coin, doesn't really rely on fancy features that would only appeal to particular niches and instead allocates this role to third parties who are given the ability to implement their ideas on top of the core protocol if the need arises.


Personally, I don't find it too surprising. After all, this poll is located in the alternate cryptocurrencies section which most fans of Bitcoin would either tend to ignore apart from posting in the occasional thread or more likely completely avoid altogether.

I think he was referring to Bitcoin although some parts of it are true for all four coins. Just out of interest, I decided to do a comparison (I own all four coins in varying amounts):

Bitcoin
Anonymous developer has left (true since satoshi left in 2010-2011)
account got hacked (true although it's not really relevant)
Community takeover now, which always fails. (true... I guess)
Development stalled (false - see my previous post).
Price declining steadily (true).

NXT
Anonymous developer has left (true since BCNext left in 2013)
account got hacked (false)
Community takeover now, which always fails. (similar to Bitcoin)
Development stalled (false).
Price declining steadily (true).

NEM
Anonymous developer has left (true since utopianfuture* resigned under pressure)
account got hacked (false)
Community takeover now, which always fails. (similar to Bitcoin)
Development stalled (false but launch is delayed).
Price declining steadily (true in fiat terms but stable when compared with NXT).

I don't know much about Monero so my answers for this are unsure...

XMR
Anonymous developer has left (true since thankful_for_today was kicked out of the project)
account got hacked (no idea)
Community takeover now, which always fails. (similar to Bitcoin?)
Development stalled (likely false).
Price declining steadily (true).

*Founded the currency but recruited others to do most of the dev work.

Digibyte

Of course my opinion is biased, but YBC has held a steady value and high position on the market cap. We've started to branch out and offer more English support, that combined with the innovations we are working on should maintain or increase our coins value.

There wasn't a choice to select more than one option in the poll, so I voted for Bitcoin.

However I also believe in a few other alts:
LTC, DRK, NEOS

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=913172.0

There are many voting-topics! Does this one has a end date?
BTW voted for Magi. The unique and only M7M coin with a great future! Great community and dev (team)
Magi will be present more and more on Bitcoin- events!

magi and drk, great devs and community on both coins

No end date on this poll, it seems to so far agree with my predictions rather accurately.

Magi :D The community is awesome, and so are the devs. Haven't seen the progress this coin has made in the last two months in other coins in years... At some point, this will be the master coin ;)

voted for Magi coin (XMG)

the coin for cpu (M7M algo) only, so no asics en gpu's
and the Great community.

I'll go with Magi too.

Great dev, active community, one of a kind algo...

Voted for XMG (Magi coin) :)

SEXCOIN

you don´t have sexcoin in the list, but i vote for SEX

Magi is the nr 1 for me

I Vote for Magi

One you do not have Listed Netcoin.

 I am moving on to bigger and better things, POS coins are the way to go.

If people can not already see the problems with the POW situations on high valued coins, they are blind. DO the math because before to long it will be to late. and the only people profiting in the end will be the PPLNS pools who already make a fortune off their members mining for them. POW is a dieing breed, coins with little development are dieing faster. POW coins just will not work in the end days, unless the Developers decided to crack in those huge wallets of theirs and buy about 1000 PHS of mining equipment POW coins will die when the reward becomes 1 BTC per block and the difficulty is in the trillions.

So for me I like POS coins, they have no overhead electric costs, and I can earn more by investing in the coins it snot like mining equipment where you can spend thousands of dollars, but when your electric costs become higher than the reward to support them you are screwed you just have a huge paperweight, but with POS if i get sick of my rewards on a coin i just sell them and move onto a better coin thus keeping my investment and actually making a huge profit as I move onto other coins. I dont ahve a paperweight in my basement I have cash in my hand at every turn.

sexcoin

XCP and Bitcoin i will keep an eye on others but they are the two coins i have faith in even if that has cost me some $ recently, as quickly as they went down they can come back up.

Well can only hope or sell and take a loss then watch them rocket  ;D

GEMZ is the winner.

I say Bitcoin out of the list,..

But this is what really will.

http://i354.photobucket.com/albums/r438/PopularCoinPOP/wallet_bgcoin_zps1a00bfbe.png (https://cryptocointalk.com/forum/768-popularcoin-pop/)

so many lousy ones. i cannot choose  ;D

Add EXCL exclusivecoin to the pool and u have my vote

Please tell me this is not real... that it's a bad parody.

Magi!

I dont know why it would be a Parody,.. feel free to explain,

The Idea is to use the social words POP and Popular to appeal to Popular Culture and bring the dynamics of cryptocurrencies to the masses!

POP has held strong throughout the last year and I know it will continue to Grow in Value!,

Check this out:

Its alright TRUST is not on the list.  We own many coins from many of of the coins on the list.  

I think ARCH and DMD should have been added.

pippocoin trust me ;D

QUIT  one of the few that are transparent and have a business plan in a massive industry that could benefit from using the coin
The price is low for now but in a few weeks expect x10
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=919267.0

seeing that nxt is top right now. how fast do you think ethereum will catch up once they release in march 2015 supposedly? they do have a good following too and bigger it seems.

The question is what will Ethereum be able to do that NXT already cant, (especially by the time Ethereum launches)

We too have to consider that NXT will have had almost a two year head start.

well i already voted for bitcoin and the attcks for hackers in non secure blockchain its not going to demove me the first coin relesed its the best coin not dark not nxt coin for me im not going to change opinion.

While an innovative hashing algorithm or structure thereof doesn't necessarily make a successful coin (Myriadcoin and Quark, for example) nonetheless this coin does look interesting. I haven't heard of this algorithm before so I'm not sure how I missed it. The combination of different hashing algos combined into one sounds similar to X11/13/15 although I understand they are implemented quite differently which makes M7M more resistant to GPUs. Haven't seen it on Cpucoinlist.com which is where I usually go for CPU mineable coins. I've always been somewhat interested in Cryptonite, which I understand is the coin that it's based on, although mostly due to its mini-blockchain feature.


To be exact, it's really more of a 1.5 year head-start since NXT was developed and launched in late 2013 while it seems Ethereum will be launching in March 2015.

It is the father of all other crypto.

If bitcoin fails then there's no point for altcoins anymore.

Same concept, and altcoin users mostly exchanges their altcoins to bitcoins to make a profit.

Yes sorry i got that wrong, i read the date wrong.

Magi!

It is true that bitcoin must not fail...

Monero 70 votes vs Bitcoin's 66.

The altcoin section of this forum sometimes feels a bit ridiculous.

Nice to see Magi received some votes here also!

I voted for Bitcoin. Simply because its the most known cryptocoin here is. The userbase is huge and it has a great potential.

There is no point to Bitcoin now that we have the cryptonote technology

If we posted this poll for everyone to see, for example to the index page of the forum so everyone would vote, I'd imagine BTC to win.

The problem is that alot of people who are into BTC are not aware of many alts at all, some even ignore them completley and only beleive BTC to be the future, so that can make things biased in that direction too.

Bitcoin has many things going for it and it is also widely used.

There should be an option for "one that doesn't currently exist"

Anyone seen the Navajo coin charts for the past few days? Just a solid doubling in price

Can't wait to see the griefs come once the impending dump happens.

Oh come on... Add shadowcash to the list, what a shame :(

Monero maybe, recently it went up and probably will go again soon.

Yea but I am sure that 100% of the forum users know atleast few alts.
And the problem with posting the poll here is that there are many believers who only believe in alts and think that BTC will drop dead

My view is that bitcoin will always be around, but may face serious competition with other currencies that may or may not top its market cap, but in the end we will be down to under 10 cryptocurrencies once the coin wars are over.

BitShares, Bitcoin and NXT. Then Ethereum and Ripple.

Think you are right. Would also be better for the future of crypto (digital currencies) if only 10 (or little more) coins will stay alive.

+1 vote for Magi

I vote for Monero. It does not need master node like Darkcoin. So the cost of maintaining the network is low.

My vote is Magi

I think I'd vote for doge.

At least it should be able to last for long.

No.1 - BTC
then NEM, Etherium, NxT...
also SKYcoin is interesting

Maybe BTC only.
The other coins are just copying what bitcoin does.

NEM is definitely one to watch. If it would just launch.

BTC, LTC, DOGE and other major ones.
Also CAPT catches my attention.

I vote for BTC, NXT, XMG