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Title: As Chief of Police of the Crypto Police Department I Subpoena the forums
Post by: cryptopaths on January 20, 2015, 05:58:19 AM
I have given theymos 24 hours to inform me of how he is going to recover the 250 btc from the "deceased" treasurer. I will follow this with several other subpoenas to investigate the actions that are being carried out. Some of these subpoenas will involve the forums money being used for the forum software.


Title: Re: As Chief of Police of the Crypto Police Department I Subpoena the forums
Post by: Quickseller on January 20, 2015, 06:16:17 AM
I have given theymos 24 hours to inform me of how he is going to recover the 250 btc from the "deceased" treasurer. I will follow this with several other subpoenas to investigate the actions that are being carried out. Some of these subpoenas will involve the forums money being used for the forum software.
LOL what? I hope you realize that legally speaking all the forum's money is property of theymos. He feels otherwise and wishes to use it to help the community, however if he wanted it for himself he would not even need to "run"


Title: Re: As Chief of Police of the Crypto Police Department I Subpoena the forums
Post by: Quickseller on January 20, 2015, 06:34:29 AM
I have given theymos 24 hours to inform me of how he is going to recover the 250 btc from the "deceased" treasurer. I will follow this with several other subpoenas to investigate the actions that are being carried out. Some of these subpoenas will involve the forums money being used for the forum software.
LOL what? I hope you realize that legally speaking all the forum's money is property of theymos. He feels otherwise and wishes to use it to help the community, however if he wanted it for himself he would not even need to "run"


Let's not forget Theymos was an early adopter.

I don't think he needs or desires the forum's BTC.


~BCX
I don't think it really matters. IDK how much bitcoin he still has/owns personally (maybe he will publicly say but probably not), but the forum's money is his money.

All the people who claim that he is laundering forum money via slickage are idiots because he has no reason to need to do so because it is his property to begin with


Title: Re: As Chief of Police of the Crypto Police Department I Subpoena the forums
Post by: iCEBREAKER on January 20, 2015, 06:42:10 AM
Uh oh, the Crypto Police are on the case.

I'm sure thermos is next on the naughty list, once they're done with Paycoin.

http://i.imgur.com/FK26RdP.jpg

Watch out Cryto Villains, they always get their man!



Title: Re: As Chief of Police of the Crypto Police Department I Subpoena the forums
Post by: BadBear on January 20, 2015, 09:52:57 AM
This is just precious, reminds me of seeing my friends son running around with a plastic gun and badge pretending to be police.


Title: Re: As Chief of Police of the Crypto Police Department I Subpoena the forums
Post by: Lethn on January 20, 2015, 12:21:51 PM
These self-righteous and arrogant noobs are starting to get on my nerves.


Title: Re: As Chief of Police of the Crypto Police Department I Subpoena the forums
Post by: Blazr on January 20, 2015, 01:49:10 PM
I have given theymos 24 hours to inform me of how he is going to recover the 250 btc from the "deceased" treasurer. I will follow this with several other subpoenas to investigate the actions that are being carried out. Some of these subpoenas will involve the forums money being used for the forum software.

Why does he have to recover it? forum donations are "donations to theymos". He doesn't have to get it back if he doesn't want to.

Last time I checked the BTC was still sitting in the address, and there appeared to be lots of leads, I believe I had seen paraipan's home address and phone number on WHOIS for one of his domains. So I'm surprised theymos hasn't got it back, obviously if someone was stealing the money it would have moved, so I'd assume the family just need to be contacted to see if they can find the wallet.


Title: Re: As Chief of Police of the Crypto Police Department I Subpoena the forums
Post by: sbogovac on January 20, 2015, 01:59:29 PM
I have given theymos 24 hours to inform me of how he is going to recover the 250 btc from the "deceased" treasurer. I will follow this with several other subpoenas to investigate the actions that are being carried out. Some of these subpoenas will involve the forums money being used for the forum software.

Why does he have to recover it? forum donations are "donations to theymos". He doesn't have to get it back if he doesn't want to.

Last time I checked the BTC was still sitting in the address, and there appeared to be lots of leads, I believe I had seen paraipan's home address and phone number on WHOIS for one of his domains. So I'm surprised theymos hasn't got it back, obviously if someone was stealing the money it would have moved, so I'd assume the family just need to be contacted to see if they can find the wallet.

I'm guessing the location (geographical, computer, wallet or whatever) isn't as much of a problem as much as access (physical, password, encryption or whatever) is...


Title: Re: As Chief of Police of the Crypto Police Department I Subpoena the forums
Post by: Lauda on January 20, 2015, 01:59:46 PM
I have given theymos 24 hours to inform me of how he is going to recover the 250 btc from the "deceased" treasurer. I will follow this with several other subpoenas to investigate the actions that are being carried out. Some of these subpoenas will involve the forums money being used for the forum software.

Why does he have to recover it? forum donations are "donations to theymos". He doesn't have to get it back if he doesn't want to.

Last time I checked the BTC was still sitting in the address, and there appeared to be lots of leads, I believe I had seen paraipan's home address and phone number on WHOIS for one of his domains. So I'm surprised theymos hasn't got it back, obviously if someone was stealing the money it would have moved, so I'd assume the family just need to be contacted to see if they can find the wallet.
How much time has passed since his death?
Obviously, even if he intends to recover it he should wait a good period of time.
Waiting for the appropriate time is the right thing to do, before recovering the money(if that is his intention).


Title: Re: As Chief of Police of the Crypto Police Department I Subpoena the forums
Post by: Blazr on January 20, 2015, 02:15:50 PM
I'm guessing the location (geographical, computer, wallet or whatever) isn't as much of a problem as much as access (physical, password, encryption or whatever) is...

Somebody logged into his bitcointalk account after he died, so he gave someone else the password to it. It's possible he also gave someone the password to his wallet.

How much time has passed since his death?
Obviously, even if he intends to recover it he should wait a good period of time.
Waiting for the appropriate time is the right thing to do, before recovering the money(if that is his intention).

He passed away in April 2014:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583286.0


Title: Re: As Chief of Police of the Crypto Police Department I Subpoena the forums
Post by: sbogovac on January 20, 2015, 03:45:19 PM
I'm guessing the location (geographical, computer, wallet or whatever) isn't as much of a problem as much as access (physical, password, encryption or whatever) is...

Somebody logged into his bitcointalk account after he died, so he gave someone else the password to it. It's possible he also gave someone the password to his wallet.

Do you really believe that a password for a forum (that is also maintained by someone else) is comparable to a wallet password; the former being "manageable" by admins and such, and the latter being practically "unbreakable" (by comparison...)?

My guess: it's byebye BTC250  :'(


Title: Re: As Chief of Police of the Crypto Police Department I Subpoena the forums
Post by: Blazr on January 20, 2015, 03:48:56 PM
Do you really believe that a password for a forum (that is also maintained by someone else) is comparable to a wallet password; the former being "manageable" by admins and such, and the latter being practically "unbreakable" (by comparison...)?

So you're saying that a staff member here logged into his account? it was mentioned by hilariousandco and other staff here that they thought it was a family member who logged in.

On top of that he knew he was terminally ill for a while, so it's not like it's hard to believe that there may be a chance he gave his family his wallet password.


Title: Re: As Chief of Police of the Crypto Police Department I Subpoena the forums
Post by: hilariousandco on January 20, 2015, 05:36:54 PM
I'm guessing the location (geographical, computer, wallet or whatever) isn't as much of a problem as much as access (physical, password, encryption or whatever) is...

Somebody logged into his bitcointalk account after he died, so he gave someone else the password to it. It's possible he also gave someone the password to his wallet.

Maybe he didn't give anyone his password and they just booted up his computer. If bitcointalk was one of his open tabs or homepage that could explain it.

So you're saying that a staff member here logged into his account? it was mentioned by hilariousandco and other staff here that they thought it was a family member who logged in.

On top of that he knew he was terminally ill for a while, so it's not like it's hard to believe that there may be a chance he gave his family his wallet password.

Where did I say that? (though it is more likely).

If he was terminally ill why wouldn't he have made arrangements to return the money? Has his death actually been 100% confirmed?


Title: Re: As Chief of Police of the Crypto Police Department I Subpoena the forums
Post by: Blazr on January 20, 2015, 05:53:42 PM
I'm guessing the location (geographical, computer, wallet or whatever) isn't as much of a problem as much as access (physical, password, encryption or whatever) is...

Somebody logged into his bitcointalk account after he died, so he gave someone else the password to it. It's possible he also gave someone the password to his wallet.

Maybe he didn't give anyone his password and they just booted up his computer. If bitcointalk was one of his open tabs or homepage that could explain it.

So you're saying that a staff member here logged into his account? it was mentioned by hilariousandco and other staff here that they thought it was a family member who logged in.

On top of that he knew he was terminally ill for a while, so it's not like it's hard to believe that there may be a chance he gave his family his wallet password.

Where did I say that? (though it is more likely).

If he was terminally ill why wouldn't he have made arrangements to return the money? Has his death actually been 100% confirmed?

Oops. You didn't. This was the thread I was talking about:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583286.0

Looks like it wasn't confirmed to be a family member, but someone logged into his account multiple times.

Also, he announced his illness here, although it is in Spanish;
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=208077.0


Title: Re: As Chief of Police of the Crypto Police Department I Subpoena the forums
Post by: QuestionAuthority on January 20, 2015, 10:42:23 PM
I'm guessing the location (geographical, computer, wallet or whatever) isn't as much of a problem as much as access (physical, password, encryption or whatever) is...

Somebody logged into his bitcointalk account after he died, so he gave someone else the password to it. It's possible he also gave someone the password to his wallet.

Maybe he didn't give anyone his password and they just booted up his computer. If bitcointalk was one of his open tabs or homepage that could explain it.

So you're saying that a staff member here logged into his account? it was mentioned by hilariousandco and other staff here that they thought it was a family member who logged in.

On top of that he knew he was terminally ill for a while, so it's not like it's hard to believe that there may be a chance he gave his family his wallet password.

Where did I say that? (though it is more likely).

If he was terminally ill why wouldn't he have made arrangements to return the money? Has his death actually been 100% confirmed?

The circle is complete. Even theymos has been ripped off.


Title: Re: As Chief of Police of the Crypto Police Department I Subpoena the forums
Post by: rugrats on January 21, 2015, 06:56:16 AM
I have given theymos 24 hours to inform me of how he is going to recover the 250 btc from the "deceased" treasurer. I will follow this with several other subpoenas to investigate the actions that are being carried out. Some of these subpoenas will involve the forums money being used for the forum software.
http://i.imgur.com/4yXfV1j.jpg?1

I have given theymos 24 hours to inform me of how he is going to recover the 250 btc from the "deceased" treasurer. I will follow this with several other subpoenas to investigate the actions that are being carried out. Some of these subpoenas will involve the forums money being used for the forum software.
LOL what? I hope you realize that legally speaking all the forum's money is property of theymos. He feels otherwise and wishes to use it to help the community, however if he wanted it for himself he would not even need to "run"
<snip>

I don't think it really matters. IDK how much bitcoin he still has/owns personally (maybe he will publicly say but probably not), but the forum's money is his money.

<snip>
Can you link the post/thread where theymos claimed legal ownership of the forums funds?
I'm sure Sirius, justmoon and all the donators, and not to mention the IRS, will be interested to see it.


Title: Re: As Chief of Police of the Crypto Police Department I Subpoena the forums
Post by: dogie on January 21, 2015, 07:59:00 AM
I'm sure Sirius, justmoon and all the donators, and not to mention the IRS, will be interested to see it.

1) The forum files and pays taxes
2) The forum itself is not a registered company [that I've seen], and so has to be owned by an individual - it doesn't exist as an entity on its own.


I would like to ask one major question. Why in the hell are so many people worried about 250BTC that was property of the forum? The 250BTC is meaningless to the forum, how it is ran or even in the development of the new forum. That 250BTC will never impact your current user experience or any in the future. Again, why are so many people worried about that 250BTC?

1) Why do you add TWO line breaks between every sentence?
2) Why do you type another THREE line breaks to sign every message? We know who is writing the message because of the user info which magically appears alongside posts.
3) At what point does it become meaningful? 500? 1000? 2500 BTC? All of it is money which could be used for one thing or another.


Title: Re: As Chief of Police of the Crypto Police Department I Subpoena the forums
Post by: BitcoinEXpress on January 21, 2015, 04:30:13 PM

1) Why do you add TWO line breaks between every sentence?
2) Why do you type another THREE line breaks to sign every message? We know who is writing the message because of the user info which magically appears alongside posts.
3) At what point does it become meaningful? 500? 1000? 2500 BTC? All of it is money which could be used for one thing or another.


1. Because I use very large fonts due to being legally blind. Just the way it formats a lot of time.

2. Just because I do.

3. My point is that it is really none of anyone's concern as to what happened or if the 250BTC is ever recovered.


Now for my critique of you.

In hardware you are a power contributor and I like your guides.

Everywhere else, you're just a run of the mill asshole.



~BCX~


Title: Re: As Chief of Police of the Crypto Police Department I Subpoena the forums
Post by: DiamondCardz on January 21, 2015, 06:08:41 PM
Don't worry lads, they have an official logo:

http://i.imgur.com/qm8euYS.png


Title: Re: As Chief of Police of the Crypto Police Department I Subpoena the forums
Post by: cryptopaths on January 23, 2015, 03:23:55 PM
Does anyone else think it's suspicious that the forum went down and "lost" a lot of data after I sent the subpoena?


Title: Re: As Chief of Police of the Crypto Police Department I Subpoena the forums
Post by: Quickseller on January 23, 2015, 03:24:59 PM
Does anyone else think it's suspicious that the forum went down and "lost" a lot of data after I sent the subpoena?
no.


 Your subpoena is not binding in any way


Title: Re: As Chief of Police of the Crypto Police Department I Subpoena the forums
Post by: sbogovac on January 23, 2015, 04:23:32 PM
Does anyone else think it's suspicious that the forum went down and "lost" a lot of data after I sent the subpoena?

Are you talking about your claim that you took BCT purposely down?

At: http://www.coinbuzz.com/2015/01/22/bitcointalk-forum/ 



Title: Re: As Chief of Police of the Crypto Police Department I Subpoena the forums
Post by: RodeoX on January 23, 2015, 04:28:50 PM
I am the emperor of the crypto-Earth, and I hereby pardon Theymos.


Title: Re: As Chief of Police of the Crypto Police Department I Subpoena the forums
Post by: BitcoinEXpress on January 23, 2015, 04:29:02 PM
Does anyone else think it's suspicious that the forum went down and "lost" a lot of data after I sent the subpoena?

Are you talking about your claim that you took BCT purposely down?

At: http://www.coinbuzz.com/2015/01/22/bitcointalk-forum/  




Why do you guys want to piss off the Chief?

This is hilarious!



~BCX~



Added:

I am the emperor of the crypto-Earth, and I hereby pardon Theymos.


Does an Emperor out rank a Crypto Police Chief?


Title: Re: As Chief of Police of the Crypto Police Department I Subpoena the forums
Post by: sbogovac on January 23, 2015, 04:40:11 PM
Does anyone else think it's suspicious that the forum went down and "lost" a lot of data after I sent the subpoena?

Are you talking about your claim that you took BCT purposely down?

At: http://www.coinbuzz.com/2015/01/22/bitcointalk-forum/  




Why do you guys want to piss off the Chief?

This is hilarious![...]

It is, isn't it...  ;D


Title: Re: As Chief of Police of the Crypto Police Department I Subpoena the forums
Post by: hilariousandco on January 23, 2015, 05:34:22 PM
Does anyone else think it's suspicious that the forum went down and "lost" a lot of data after I sent the subpoena?

Are you talking about your claim that you took BCT purposely down?

At: http://www.coinbuzz.com/2015/01/22/bitcointalk-forum/ 



Ha. From the comments:

Quote
Techshare 19 hours ago Anyone who still thinks this is a disk failure is simply fooling themselves. Disk failure doesn't take this long to solve. Pop in disk, rebuild raid.

I wonder if that actually is techshare or just someone trolling?


Title: Re: As Chief of Police of the Crypto Police Department I Subpoena the forums
Post by: Bit_Happy on January 23, 2015, 05:42:49 PM
How does a "private police effort" get the support of people they are trying to help?


Title: Re: As Chief of Police of the Crypto Police Department I Subpoena the forums
Post by: Raize on January 23, 2015, 08:16:27 PM
If he was terminally ill why wouldn't he have made arrangements to return the money? Has his death actually been 100% confirmed?

No, but based on some research I've done independently and gave to theymos last year, I find it very likely he has passed. He had a few real-life accounts that have gone essentially unused since the time he supposedly died. I've checked in on them occasionally and they are still unused.


Title: Re: As Chief of Police of the Crypto Police Department I Subpoena the forums
Post by: cryptopaths on January 23, 2015, 08:17:38 PM
Does anyone else think it's suspicious that the forum went down and "lost" a lot of data after I sent the subpoena?

Are you talking about your claim that you took BCT purposely down?

At: http://www.coinbuzz.com/2015/01/22/bitcointalk-forum/ 



Fuck off that comment wasn't me it's a pathetic impersonator.


Title: Re: As Chief of Police of the Crypto Police Department I Subpoena the forums
Post by: sbogovac on January 23, 2015, 09:42:41 PM
Does anyone else think it's suspicious that the forum went down and "lost" a lot of data after I sent the subpoena?

Are you talking about your claim that you took BCT purposely down?

At: http://www.coinbuzz.com/2015/01/22/bitcointalk-forum/ 



Fuck off that comment wasn't me it's a pathetic impersonator.

Thank you, for that very mature answer. I'm sure you'll get everything you deserve with that attitude...


Title: Re: As Chief of Police of the Crypto Police Department I Subpoena the forums
Post by: cryptopaths on January 23, 2015, 11:08:50 PM
Does anyone else think it's suspicious that the forum went down and "lost" a lot of data after I sent the subpoena?

Are you talking about your claim that you took BCT purposely down?

At: http://www.coinbuzz.com/2015/01/22/bitcointalk-forum/  



Fuck off that comment wasn't me it's a pathetic impersonator.

Thank you, for that very mature answer. I'm sure you'll get everything you deserve with that attitude...


I'm sure you'll get everything you deserve making baseless accusations. While we're making accusations isn't it more likely that was you who made the post trying to frame me? Nice try bitch.


Title: Re: As Chief of Police of the Crypto Police Department I Subpoena the forums
Post by: sbogovac on January 23, 2015, 11:36:44 PM
Does anyone else think it's suspicious that the forum went down and "lost" a lot of data after I sent the subpoena?

Are you talking about your claim that you took BCT purposely down?

At: http://www.coinbuzz.com/2015/01/22/bitcointalk-forum/  



Fuck off that comment wasn't me it's a pathetic impersonator.

Thank you, for that very mature answer. I'm sure you'll get everything you deserve with that attitude...


I'm sure you'll get everything you deserve making baseless accusations. While we're making accusations isn't it more likely that was you who made the post trying to frame me? Nice try bitch.

Dude, I asked you a question. But thanks, all is very clear now. Good luck with your "subpoena".


Title: Re: As Chief of Police of the Crypto Police Department I Subpoena the forums
Post by: Blazr on January 24, 2015, 12:14:08 AM
I can haz a subpoena 2?