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Title: Bitnodes Incentive Program Post by: p2pbucks on February 12, 2015, 02:42:22 AM Now it seems bitcoin foundation is focusing on enlarging bitcoin nodes scale . Do we have a plan to establish bitcoin ledger root nodes ( the nodes maintain full ledger ) before the public ledger reaches a very large size ? what do you think ?
https://getaddr.bitnodes.io/nodes/incentive/ Title: Re: Bitnodes Incentive Program Post by: inBitweTrust on February 12, 2015, 03:10:29 AM great idea .. something good from TBF...
Summary - Current users using API- 27, and once this gets to 100 a random node that meets a certain criteria - https://getaddr.bitnodes.io/nodes/leaderboard/#peer-index gets rewarded with at least 10 dollars and as the amount of nodes increase the reward increases to 30usd until 2016 or we reach 10k nodes. Title: Re: Bitnodes Incentive Program Post by: pedrog on February 12, 2015, 03:14:26 AM 'The weekly incentive will be paid in bitcoins to the Bitcoin address of a node selected randomly from a pool with at least 100 eligible nodes.'
Title: Re: Bitnodes Incentive Program Post by: inBitweTrust on February 12, 2015, 03:20:29 AM 'The weekly incentive will be paid in bitcoins to the Bitcoin address of a node selected randomly from a pool with at least 100 eligible nodes.' hmm... so they are only rewarding nodes that are in mining pools or are they using the term "pool" in a more generic manner to refer to the payout happening once 100 nodes signup? Title: Re: Bitnodes Incentive Program Post by: pedrog on February 12, 2015, 03:32:43 AM 'The weekly incentive will be paid in bitcoins to the Bitcoin address of a node selected randomly from a pool with at least 100 eligible nodes.' hmm... so they are only rewarding nodes that are in mining pools or are they using the term "pool" in a more generic manner to refer to the payout happening once 100 nodes signup? At least 100 nodes, the maximum chance of one being paid is 1/100, but it will probably be lower, which means for the duration of this program, the majority of nodes will not be paid. Title: Re: Bitnodes Incentive Program Post by: inBitweTrust on February 12, 2015, 03:49:55 AM 'The weekly incentive will be paid in bitcoins to the Bitcoin address of a node selected randomly from a pool with at least 100 eligible nodes.' hmm... so they are only rewarding nodes that are in mining pools or are they using the term "pool" in a more generic manner to refer to the payout happening once 100 nodes signup? At least 100 nodes, the maximum chance of one being paid is 1/100, but it will probably be lower, which means for the duration of this program, the majority of nodes will not be paid. So a VPS that costs 5 dollars a month has around a 44% chance to 2% chance at the lowest of being rewarded between 20- 30usd in 2015. Not enough to make people go out of their way to setup a node by itself but if you were going to be using that vps for other purposes you may as well signup. Title: Re: Bitnodes Incentive Program Post by: pedrog on February 12, 2015, 04:31:13 AM 'The weekly incentive will be paid in bitcoins to the Bitcoin address of a node selected randomly from a pool with at least 100 eligible nodes.' hmm... so they are only rewarding nodes that are in mining pools or are they using the term "pool" in a more generic manner to refer to the payout happening once 100 nodes signup? At least 100 nodes, the maximum chance of one being paid is 1/100, but it will probably be lower, which means for the duration of this program, the majority of nodes will not be paid. So a VPS that costs 5 dollars a month has around a 44% chance to 2% chance at the lowest of being rewarded between 20- 30usd in 2015. Not enough to make people go out of their way to setup a node by itself but if you were going to be using that vps for other purposes you may as well signup. Yes, it's good for people who already have nodes or the means to have nodes, if people are going to set up nodes with the expectation of making profit, gonna have a bad time... Title: Re: Bitnodes Incentive Program Post by: theskillzdatklls on February 12, 2015, 07:03:30 AM ive always thought the masternodes thing was fucking genius on darkcoin's side. the thing i hate most about owning bitcoin is having no completely secure trustless investment program for them. darkcoin's masternode is the best technology i've ever seen around that but darkcoin is just some ridiculous altcoin so its great technology behind something that is worthless (for now anyway, though probably forever).
bitnodes, afaik, is a very small step in that direction so that's cool. Title: Re: Bitnodes Incentive Program Post by: shorena on February 12, 2015, 09:41:20 AM I tried to register my node, but apparently they have to check stuff first. Lets wait and see. The node is up anyway.
Title: Re: Bitnodes Incentive Program Post by: nextblast on February 12, 2015, 12:27:36 PM It's not user-friendly enough, at least for majority windows users.
You'll have to hack a little to get things done right. Title: Re: Bitnodes Incentive Program Post by: shorena on February 12, 2015, 12:32:19 PM It's not user-friendly enough, at least for majority windows users. You'll have to hack a little to get things done right. I doubt they are targeting windows users on a home line with this. Title: Re: Bitnodes Incentive Program Post by: Newar on February 12, 2015, 03:36:00 PM I tried to register my node, but apparently they have to check stuff first. Lets wait and see. The node is up anyway. I thought it went pretty quick. Do you have the address listed on your page in plain text or just the QR code? Title: Re: Bitnodes Incentive Program Post by: shorena on February 12, 2015, 03:41:21 PM I tried to register my node, but apparently they have to check stuff first. Lets wait and see. The node is up anyway. I thought it went pretty quick. Do you have the address listed on your page in plain text or just the QR code? Its verified by now. Its in plain text, but I think the mistake was to give the URL as https, while I dont actually provide SSL. Title: Re: Bitnodes Incentive Program Post by: zvs on February 19, 2015, 02:47:47 AM it'd help if the scoring method wasn't crap, specifically the "ASN index"
i'll connect to a lot of nodes from the same ASN because there are a few specific ASNs that host the majority of dedicated servers that run bitcoin nodes. hetzner is 24940, ovh is 16276, digital ocean is 14061, etc, etc. far more beneficial for me to connect to these, rather than, say, Africa Online Holdings @ 18922. oh, yeah, they also don't timeout. the best nodes aren't these VPS that have 100ms+ latency. i mean, seriously, I'd have an easier time getting a high score on that from my home connection, with 768kbps upstream... well, more like 512kbps, since I'd limit it with netlimiter. having 75 connections open on that wouldnt be doing the network any favors https://getaddr.bitnodes.io/nodes/leaderboard/?q=your-server those are all the hetzner servers w/o a reverse DNS set, highest is 858. note their ASN index scores. https://getaddr.bitnodes.io/nodes/leaderboard/?q=poney those are all the online.net servers w/o RDNS set, highest is 619. note their ASN index scores https://getaddr.bitnodes.io/nodes/leaderboard/?q=kimsufi https://getaddr.bitnodes.io/nodes/leaderboard/?q=ovh all the kimsufis and ovh servers. see the ASN index? noticing a trend? though if you're in, say, https://getaddr.bitnodes.io/nodes/leaderboard/?q=egypt https://getaddr.bitnodes.io/nodes/leaderboard/?q=africa https://getaddr.bitnodes.io/nodes/leaderboard/?q=saudi+arabia https://getaddr.bitnodes.io/nodes/leaderboard/?q=philippines you're gtg, even if you do only have 1Mbps upstream (if that) slightly more difficult is https://getaddr.bitnodes.io/nodes/leaderboard/?q=china https://getaddr.bitnodes.io/nodes/leaderboard/?q=israel https://getaddr.bitnodes.io/nodes/leaderboard/?q=new+zealand and so on. Title: Re: Bitnodes Incentive Program Post by: 2112 on February 19, 2015, 03:02:24 AM it'd help if the scoring method wasn't crap, specifically the "ASN index" It would be crap both ways. "ASN index" weighting tries to promote decentralization.I remember one Bittorrent statistics gaming service that used to run on a single server with the whole "Class C subnet" with 254 IP aliases. It is hard to come up with a really truthful statistics without actually downloading the data from multiple locations around the globe. Title: Re: Bitnodes Incentive Program Post by: zvs on February 19, 2015, 05:27:35 PM it'd help if the scoring method wasn't crap, specifically the "ASN index" It would be crap both ways. "ASN index" weighting tries to promote decentralization.I remember one Bittorrent statistics gaming service that used to run on a single server with the whole "Class C subnet" with 254 IP aliases. It is hard to come up with a really truthful statistics without actually downloading the data from multiple locations around the globe. Just because a lot of nodes happen to be in a single ASN doesn't indicate 'centralization', though. Well, that is, unless you think the people at Hetzner/OVH/Digital Ocean/Linode/Vultr/whatever else are plotting some scheme. I guess I should also say I have an issue with the daily uptime index, since mine says '0 ms' sometimes, it counts it as being down. Title: Re: Bitnodes Incentive Program Post by: lovekaze on February 19, 2015, 05:32:05 PM Now it seems bitcoin foundation is focusing on enlarging bitcoin nodes scale . Do we have a plan to establish bitcoin ledger root nodes ( the nodes maintain full ledger ) before the public ledger reaches a very large size ? what do you think ? https://getaddr.bitnodes.io/nodes/incentive/ We have less than 7000 nodes now but we will have more than 10 000 nodes within a year of time. The Bitcoin wikipedia page explains nodes : https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/How_bitcoin_works Title: Re: Bitnodes Incentive Program Post by: 2112 on February 19, 2015, 06:49:24 PM Just because a lot of nodes happen to be in a single ASN doesn't indicate 'centralization', though. Well, that is, unless you think the people at Hetzner/OVH/Digital Ocean/Linode/Vultr/whatever else are plotting some scheme. Well, as far as Bitcoin node protocol this is centralization. Bitcoin attempts to spread the outgoing connections by avoiding those addresses that are "close" with regard to IP netmask, it has no access to BGP/ASN tables. Bittorrent does a different decentralization by computing node priority as some sort of hash of IP/port, which is somewhat more tolerant of peers with nearly sequential IPs.I guess I should also say I have an issue with the daily uptime index, since mine says '0 ms' sometimes, it counts it as being down. Given the current protocol rules I'll say that de-weighting by ASN is a decent attempt at approximating a measure of decentralization. Interestingly I also have latency spikes down to 0ms, but my node's uptime shows 100.00%. Title: Re: Bitnodes Incentive Program Post by: SirChiko on February 19, 2015, 10:00:12 PM 'The weekly incentive will be paid in bitcoins to the Bitcoin address of a node selected randomly from a pool with at least 100 eligible nodes.' hmm... so they are only rewarding nodes that are in mining pools or are they using the term "pool" in a more generic manner to refer to the payout happening once 100 nodes signup? At least 100 nodes, the maximum chance of one being paid is 1/100, but it will probably be lower, which means for the duration of this program, the majority of nodes will not be paid. So a VPS that costs 5 dollars a month has around a 44% chance to 2% chance at the lowest of being rewarded between 20- 30usd in 2015. Not enough to make people go out of their way to setup a node by itself but if you were going to be using that vps for other purposes you may as well signup. Yes, it's good for people who already have nodes or the means to have nodes, if people are going to set up nodes with the expectation of making profit, gonna have a bad time... Title: Re: Bitnodes Incentive Program Post by: Brewins on February 20, 2015, 01:20:54 AM It's not user-friendly enough, at least for majority windows users. You'll have to hack a little to get things done right. it is not made to be user friendly. There are other programs made to be user friendly. Run full nodes is for people that know what they are doing Title: Re: Bitnodes Incentive Program Post by: dserrano5 on February 22, 2015, 06:17:04 PM I think this bitnodes.io people got something wrong.
https://getaddr.bitnodes.io/nodes/dserrano5.es-8333/ keeps saying the node is down, when clearly it isn't. I guess that must be the reason that the curl invocation to the API fails: Code: $ curl -H 'Accept: application/json; indent=4' -d bitcoin_address=1foobar -d url=https://dserrano5.es https://getaddr.bitnodes.io/api/v1/nodes/dserrano5.es-8333/ (yes, I'm running curl from that server) Well, no probs, let's try with the IP address, which has been up (https://getaddr.bitnodes.io/nodes/37.59.44.40-8333/) for some months. Code: $ curl -H 'Accept: application/json; indent=4' -d bitcoin_address=1foobar -d url=https://37.59.44.40 https://getaddr.bitnodes.io/api/v1/nodes/37.59.44.40-8333/ Then I wait and: Code: $ elinks -dump https://getaddr.bitnodes.io/api/v1/nodes/37.59.44.40-8333/ I have an SSL certificate for my domain, not for the plain IP, so I'm guessing when they go to verify at https://37.59.44.40 they find the SSL errors and refuse to get past there. Well, no probs, let's try with the domain. Oh wait… Title: Re: Bitnodes Incentive Program Post by: Newar on February 22, 2015, 06:33:49 PM I think this bitnodes.io people got something wrong. [...] Maybe email them directly (bottom of the page), not sure if they monitor this thread. Title: Re: Bitnodes Incentive Program Post by: shorena on February 22, 2015, 09:41:26 PM -snip- I have an SSL certificate for my domain, not for the plain IP, so I'm guessing when they go to verify at https://37.59.44.40 they find the SSL errors and refuse to get past there. Well, no probs, let's try with the domain. Oh wait… Try the IP w/o SSL (http://...) I cant seem to connect that way via browser though. w/ SSL works fine. Code: nmap -p 80 37.59.44.40 returns: filtered Title: Re: Bitnodes Incentive Program Post by: dserrano5 on February 22, 2015, 10:15:45 PM Maybe email them directly (bottom of the page), not sure if they monitor this thread. I just did that, let's see. Try the IP w/o SSL (http://...) No. Code: nmap -p 80 37.59.44.40 returns: filtered Yes :). Title: Re: Bitnodes Incentive Program Post by: disclosure on February 23, 2015, 08:47:04 AM SSL-enabled URL with unverified cert is supported. Feel free to contact me directly using the contact link at the footer of the website.
Title: Re: Bitnodes Incentive Program Post by: dserrano5 on February 23, 2015, 10:01:23 PM SSL-enabled URL with unverified cert is supported. Feel free to contact me directly using the contact link at the footer of the website. Already sent an email 24 hours (-ish) ago. Thanks for taking a look! Edit: as of March 2nd, the mail is still unanswered. I didn't insist either. Title: Re: Bitnodes Incentive Program Post by: shorena on March 02, 2015, 08:44:22 AM Title: Re: Bitnodes Incentive Program Post by: Newar on March 02, 2015, 10:39:36 AM Two more eligible nodes needed. [img ]https://i.imgur.com/2Nh1Y6g.png[/img] It was at 100 at one point, but it dropped again. Which made me think that the way the lottery is supposed to happen isn't that clearly laid out. Title: Re: Bitnodes Incentive Program Post by: disclosure on March 03, 2015, 09:33:55 AM First weekly incentive sent to 75.111.158.225!
https://getaddr.bitnodes.io/nodes/incentive/ Title: Re: Bitnodes Incentive Program Post by: dserrano5 on March 03, 2015, 07:44:27 PM SSL-enabled URL with unverified cert is supported. Feel free to contact me directly using the contact link at the footer of the website. Already sent an email 24 hours (-ish) ago. Thanks for taking a look! Edit: as of March 2nd, the mail is still unanswered. I didn't insist either. Got an answer today, they now ignore the SSL errors so I'm already verified. Title: Re: Bitnodes Incentive Program Post by: shorena on March 10, 2015, 06:38:30 AM First weekly incentive sent to 75.111.158.225! https://getaddr.bitnodes.io/nodes/incentive/ And another winner, 104.7.88.191 this time. Edit: btw are there any details how the node is picked? Is it weighted by PIX are nodes that allready received an incentive removed from the list? Title: Re: Bitnodes Incentive Program Post by: disclosure on March 10, 2015, 10:39:42 AM And another winner, 104.7.88.191 this time. A node is picked randomly from a pool of eligible nodes, so a selected node may be selected again in the future.Edit: btw are there any details how the node is picked? Is it weighted by PIX are nodes that allready received an incentive removed from the list? Title: Re: Bitnodes Incentive Program Post by: Mikestang on March 14, 2015, 07:06:39 PM It's not user-friendly enough, at least for majority windows users. You'll have to hack a little to get things done right. it is not made to be user friendly. There are other programs made to be user friendly. Run full nodes is for people that know what they are doing That's a bit elitist of you, don't you think? I run a full node, but have no idea how to make an API call. There should be a way from within bitcoin core to register a btc address, otherwise this excludes everyone who contributes their node to the network, yet lacks the technical know-how to make an API call. WTB 'How to make API call for Dummies' Title: Re: Bitnodes Incentive Program Post by: shorena on March 14, 2015, 07:21:30 PM It's not user-friendly enough, at least for majority windows users. You'll have to hack a little to get things done right. it is not made to be user friendly. There are other programs made to be user friendly. Run full nodes is for people that know what they are doing That's a bit elitist of you, don't you think? I run a full node, but have no idea how to make an API call. There should be a way from within bitcoin core to register a btc address, otherwise this excludes everyone who contributes their node to the network, yet lacks the technical know-how to make an API call. WTB 'How to make API call for Dummies' I assume you have a webserver running and it has the address listed in order to verify. To check your nodes status do: Code: curl -H 'Accept: application/Json; indent=4' https://getaddr.bitnodes.io/api/v1/nodes/YOURIP-YOURPORT/ In order to register your node you need this: Code: curl -H 'Accept: application/json; indent=4' -d 'bitcoin_address=1yourADDRESS' -d 'url=http(s)://your.web.address' https://getaddr.bitnodes.io/api/v1/nodes/YOURIP-YOURPORT/ It should return success true and after that it will take a few minutes. If you check the status again it should now show "verified". There might be typos as I "copied" the scripts from another machine. I didnt think to google the API first, anyway... Their full API is here -> https://getaddr.bitnodes.io/api/ Title: Re: Bitnodes Incentive Program Post by: Mikestang on March 16, 2015, 05:12:57 AM I assume you have a webserver running I'm sorry, I could have stopped you right there with a "nope". I can barely navigate a command line, I wouldn't even begin to know where to enter that curl stuff, you see my problem? That's the technical know-how part I'm lacking. I can install core and run a full node, anyone can do that, but it takes special knowledge (right now) to be able to register for the incentives program, which isn't much incentive to people like me. I don't even know if this is something that's easy to learn? Like I just figured out, using google, how to use cygwin to ssh into one of my miners and use the vi editor to edit a config file. That was fairly difficult for me, took about an hour or two. I do have my own domain and two web pages, but it's all hosted 3rd party, not sure if I can use that for the webserver part or not. Do I stand a chance? Title: Re: Bitnodes Incentive Program Post by: Newar on March 16, 2015, 06:25:00 AM [...] Do I stand a chance? You do. For starters: Which OS? Title: Re: Bitnodes Incentive Program Post by: doof on March 16, 2015, 06:42:36 AM 191.239.66.185:8333 :)
Title: Re: Bitnodes Incentive Program Post by: doof on March 16, 2015, 06:44:05 AM Now it seems bitcoin foundation is focusing on enlarging bitcoin nodes scale . Do we have a plan to establish bitcoin ledger root nodes ( the nodes maintain full ledger ) before the public ledger reaches a very large size ? what do you think ? https://getaddr.bitnodes.io/nodes/incentive/ Is bitnodes.io your site? Title: Re: Bitnodes Incentive Program Post by: shorena on March 16, 2015, 09:24:00 AM [...] Do I stand a chance? You do. For starters: Which OS? and before we go into this to deep, Id like to add: @Mikestang Do you have a fixed IP? You can check on several sites[1][2][3] or with your ISP, because the incentive will only work for you if your IP does not change. Otherwise you have to register regularly every time your IP changes, e.g. daily and your node will have a low score, because it appears to be only online for e.g. 24 hours. [1] http://www.whatismyip.com/ [2] http://www.whatsmyip.org/ [3] http://www.whatsmyip.net/ Title: Re: Bitnodes Incentive Program Post by: Oscilson on March 16, 2015, 10:06:44 AM How do they know the wallet address of the full node?
Title: Re: Bitnodes Incentive Program Post by: HarmonLi on March 16, 2015, 11:31:16 AM It's actually a vey very good thing of the Foundation to do! We're always giving them crap for not doing anything but making bad headlines. This is something I really approve of. It's not only the miners that support the currency, but also the nodes that make the network stronger.
Title: Re: Bitnodes Incentive Program Post by: doof on March 16, 2015, 11:40:18 AM How do they know the wallet address of the full node? You have to register itTitle: Re: Bitnodes Incentive Program Post by: HarmonLi on March 16, 2015, 11:42:03 AM The funny thing also is: If someone tries to 'scam' them by increasing the count of full-nodes, they're actually doing something good: They're providing a better network - this is a win-win even if greedy people are involved.
Title: Re: Bitnodes Incentive Program Post by: Mikestang on March 16, 2015, 05:11:26 PM [...] Do I stand a chance? You do. For starters: Which OS? Windows XP, SP 3 [...] Do I stand a chance? You do. For starters: Which OS? and before we go into this to deep, Id like to add: @Mikestang Do you have a fixed IP? You can check on several sites[1][2][3] or with your ISP, because the incentive will only work for you if your IP does not change. Otherwise you have to register regularly every time your IP changes, e.g. daily and your node will have a low score, because it appears to be only online for e.g. 24 hours. Yes, I have a static IP. My node has a PIX well over the 8.0 threshold. Title: Re: Bitnodes Incentive Program Post by: shorena on March 16, 2015, 10:01:04 PM -snip- Windows XP, SP 3 Sorry, I have no idea how to get a webserver on WinXP. Title: Re: Bitnodes Incentive Program Post by: Mikestang on March 20, 2015, 08:13:22 AM I assume you have a webserver running and it has the address listed in order to verify. Thank you, shorena, for your instructions.To check your nodes status do: Code: curl -H 'Accept: application/Json; indent=4' https://getaddr.bitnodes.io/api/v1/nodes/YOURIP-YOURPORT/ In order to register your node you need this: Code: curl -H 'Accept: application/json; indent=4' -d 'bitcoin_address=1yourADDRESS' -d 'url=http(s)://your.web.address' https://getaddr.bitnodes.io/api/v1/nodes/YOURIP-YOURPORT/ It should return success true and after that it will take a few minutes. If you check the status again it should now show "verified". And a HUGE thank you goes out to Newar who pointed me in the right direction as far as what to do to set up a web server. After getting Abyss Web Server set up and my index file created, I installed curl was good to go! Code: ], Title: Re: Bitnodes Incentive Program Post by: ranochigo on March 20, 2015, 09:25:51 AM Whenever I run the code, I get
Code: root@ubuntu:/usr/local/bin# curl --ipv4 -H 'Accept: application/json; indent=4' -d 'bitcoin_address=1b2QkAuVg6F2ty3fT7GFJLM2KekrgZrmG' -d 'url=http://69.195.159.74' https://getaddr.bitnodes.io/api/v1/nodes/69.195.159.74-8333/ Code: bitcoin-cli -rpcuser=root -rpcpassword getinfo Title: Re: Bitnodes Incentive Program Post by: Newar on March 20, 2015, 09:59:04 AM Whenever I run the code, I get [...] You have to activate the node first. I just did it for you. Next step is to have your BTC address somewhere on your index.html Title: Re: Bitnodes Incentive Program Post by: ranochigo on March 20, 2015, 10:12:00 AM Whenever I run the code, I get [...] You have to activate the node first. I just did it for you. Next step is to have your BTC address somewhere on your index.html Title: Re: Bitnodes Incentive Program Post by: shorena on March 22, 2015, 09:24:50 PM I need some help getting fully verified for the incentive program. I've gotten as far as setting up my full node and activating it on bitnodes.io but can't get it verified. I'm stuck at getting my webserver that contains my btc address up and working right. I've gotten as far as creating the page and I'm able to access it through localhost and internal IP but can't figure out how to access it from my external IP address. That's where I'm currently stuck. ??? I'm working on a Windows Vista SP2 laptop with IIS 7.0 that is behind a router. Did you forward the HTTP(S) ports you are using - like e.g. 80, 8080, 8008, 443, ... - to the machine? Title: Re: Bitnodes Incentive Program Post by: Alley on March 22, 2015, 09:54:12 PM This is not user friendly. I have a full node running I think. 17 connections and it shows up on the node map. I have no idea how to run a webserver or register my address however.
Title: Re: Bitnodes Incentive Program Post by: shorena on March 23, 2015, 07:18:29 AM This is not user friendly. Correct, this is mainly aimed at server admins. Not sure I would call myself that, but since I administrate my own server I guess I could ;) I have a full node running I think. 17 connections and it shows up on the node map. I have no idea how to run a webserver or register my address however. The first step is to get a webserver for your OS and get it working locally. Next step is to configure your local network hardware (e.g. router, firewall, etc.) to forward the port to the machine. You probably did something similar for the node already, seeing that you have over 8 connections. -snip- No, but I could try that. I think IIS says that it's using port 80 as default when I checked the page details. Should I try opening port 80 in windows firewall and also forward port 80 to that machine? EDIT: Opening port 80 in windows firewall (listed as World Wide Services(HTTP)) and forwarding port 80 to the webserver machine seems to have it sorted out. Can now access from external IP. Yep, port 80 is usually default, I just wasnt sure if you changed it to something else. Glad its working now. Title: Re: Bitnodes Incentive Program Post by: zvs on March 23, 2015, 07:18:48 AM This is not user friendly. I have a full node running I think. 17 connections and it shows up on the node map. I have no idea how to run a webserver or register my address however. What OS? for ubuntu to validate you can, make a temporary directory, then make an index.html file with your bitcoin address in it, eg 1Zevusze7BjTpp4srJhx4zkRBxpbgwU4A .. I use nano, so just nano index.html then input your address, ctrl-x and save. after that, run screen from that same temp directory. after screen starts up: sudo python -m SimpleHTTPServer 555 (that puts a webserver on port 555) after that, ctrl-a + h to detach from screen then: sudo curl --ipv4 -H 'Accept: application/json; indent=4' -d 'bitcoin_address=yourbitcoinaddress' -d 'url=http://xx.yy.zz.xy:555' https://getaddr.bitnodes.io/api/v1/nodes/xx.yy.zz.xy-8333/ and finally you screen -r to re-attach to that screen (assuming you're only using one screen) and wait for the bitnode IP to show up on the log, if it doesn't after 2 minutes or so, you probably have a firewall issue (unblock port 555 in iptables or ufw or whatever you use). after that, press ctrl-c to quit the python webserver, 'exit' to leave the screen process, and you're done... for a month I think, anyhow. Title: Re: Bitnodes Incentive Program Post by: Mikestang on March 23, 2015, 07:55:06 AM This is not user friendly. I have a full node running I think. 17 connections and it shows up on the node map. I have no idea how to run a webserver or register my address however. What OS? for ubuntu to validate you can, make a temporary directory, then make an index.html file with your bitcoin address in it, eg 1Zevusze7BjTpp4srJhx4zkRBxpbgwU4A .. I use nano, so just nano index.html then input your address, ctrl-x and save. after that, run screen from that same temp directory. after screen starts up: sudo python -m SimpleHTTPServer 555 (that puts a webserver on port 555) after that, ctrl-a + h to detach from screen then: sudo curl --ipv4 -H 'Accept: application/json; indent=4' -d 'bitcoin_address=yourbitcoinaddress' -d 'url=http://xx.yy.zz.xy:555' https://getaddr.bitnodes.io/api/v1/nodes/xx.yy.zz.xy-8333/ and finally you screen -r to re-attach to that screen (assuming you're only using one screen) and wait for the bitnode IP to show up on the log, if it doesn't after 2 minutes or so, you probably have a firewall issue (unblock port 555 in iptables or ufw or whatever you use). after that, press ctrl-c to quit the python webserver, 'exit' to leave the screen process, and you're done... for a month I think, anyhow. For Windows I was recommended Abyss webserver: http://www.aprelium.com/abyssws/ - http://www.aprelium.com/data/doc/2/abyssws-win-doc-html/index.html I got it set up and working pretty quickly, and with help of other posts in this thread got my btc address for my node registered. Title: Re: Bitnodes Incentive Program Post by: fortuity on March 23, 2015, 10:55:30 AM Isn't there a feature in bitcoind to receive coins by IP or is that original satoshi code disabled? It would make this kind of project much easier and no registration needed...
Title: Re: Bitnodes Incentive Program Post by: shorena on March 23, 2015, 10:56:42 AM Isn't there a feature in bitcoind to receive coins by IP or is that original satoshi code disabled? It would make this kind of project much easier and no registration needed... That was disabled due to security problems (MITM attack). Title: Re: Bitnodes Incentive Program Post by: Mikestang on March 23, 2015, 05:10:24 PM Isn't there a feature in bitcoind to receive coins by IP or is that original satoshi code disabled? It would make this kind of project much easier and no registration needed... Github discussion about that here: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/5783 Title: Re: Bitnodes Incentive Program Post by: Rassah on April 21, 2015, 02:24:04 AM Just joined you guys. Looked extremely complicated at first glance, but turned out to be extremely easy in FreeNAS (FreeBSD based)
Title: Re: Bitnodes Incentive Program Post by: ensurance982 on April 21, 2015, 11:29:10 AM Isn't there a feature in bitcoind to receive coins by IP or is that original satoshi code disabled? It would make this kind of project much easier and no registration needed... That was disabled due to security problems (MITM attack). Yeah, dounds like a feature where coins could easily be intercepted. IP-spoofing, MITM attacks, etc... It just is too big of a step away from the decentralized beauty of Bitcoin! Title: Re: Bitnodes Incentive Program Post by: Bitcoinreminder.com on April 25, 2015, 08:50:09 PM I just registered with our server for the incentive program..
It would be great if you could provide a step list, for things you have to do to participate in the program, like: 1) Activate your node here [link] 2) Add you bitcoin address via this API call [api call example] 3) Host a url with the bitcoin address available and do this api call [api call example] Because there were a lot of "home running" bitcoin server examples, it was more complicated to find the right way than it needs to be.. Anyway, thanks a lot for the program! Title: Re: Bitnodes Incentive Program Post by: Rassah on April 27, 2015, 06:33:18 PM I can't seem to get my server verified. I registered with
Quote curl -H "Accept: application/json; indent=4" -d "bitcoin_address=1Rassahgt3XSxKVJ62oSrQJxtH3wk4MKX" -d "url=http://76.100.70.17" https://getaddr.bitnodes.io/api/v1/nodes/76.100.70.17-8333/ Does the bitcoin address have to be the one in the bitcoin node, or can it be any bitcoin address? Does the url= have to be a web service running on our node (port 80), or is it just the URL of your node (reachable with 8333)? Thanks Title: Re: Bitnodes Incentive Program Post by: Mikestang on April 27, 2015, 08:30:04 PM Does the bitcoin address have to be the one in the bitcoin node, or can it be any bitcoin address? Does the url= have to be a web service running on our node (port 80), or is it just the URL of your miner (reachable with 8333)? Thanks The url for that webpage must be the same IP address as the bitcoin node. Miners have nothing to do with this. Title: Re: Bitnodes Incentive Program Post by: 5cMXezpBtm on May 10, 2015, 07:00:29 AM I would like to join, but my node is running Tor-only, so I need to be able to register the Tor onion address of the hidden service (which is not strongly intended to be hidden anyway).
Title: Re: Bitnodes Incentive Program Post by: BTC_Superman on May 10, 2015, 08:49:04 AM great idea, it will helps people who have nodes. Though it's not user friendly enough.
Title: Re: Bitnodes Incentive Program Post by: jdebunt on May 10, 2015, 09:26:19 AM A most interesting idea, people like their incentives very much :)
Title: Re: Bitnodes Incentive Program Post by: 5cMXezpBtm on May 10, 2015, 12:30:08 PM Is the node registry bound to the IP address, so the service can only be used by nodes with static IP address, but not by nodes with dynamic IP address from provider (home server) ?
Title: Re: Bitnodes Incentive Program Post by: shorena on May 10, 2015, 02:05:27 PM Is the node registry bound to the IP address, so the service can only be used by nodes with static IP address, but not by nodes with dynamic IP address from provider (home server) ? Correct, the address must not change in order to be eligable. Well either that or reregister every time the IP changes. The later will probably result in a horrible rating (uptime etc.) and thus keep the node from beeing considered. Title: Re: Bitnodes Incentive Program Post by: 2112 on May 25, 2015, 07:47:43 PM Hey "disclosure" a.k.a. Addy Yeow!
Could you please add deregistration to your site? Or maybe some form of automatic decay, so that nodes inaccessible for over a month get dropped from your scanner? I rather thoughtlessly registered several of my test nodes and I wanted to move them to a better, more permanent addresses. It was easy to press "ADD" before thinking it through. Some sort of verification similar to your incentive registration should be a good and safe deregistration. Thanks. Edit: Fixed spelling of the first name. Title: Re: Bitnodes Incentive Program Post by: Jake-R on May 27, 2015, 05:09:28 PM This is very interesting. What happens after December 31, 2015? Will this program expire and that's it? How does one activate their node? Where do you run these commands? https://getaddr.bitnodes.io/api/#node-bitcoin-address
Title: Re: Bitnodes Incentive Program Post by: Soros Shorts on May 28, 2015, 12:32:40 AM What happens after December 31, 2015? Will this program expire and that's it? He's paying out the rewards with his own funds. What would you reasonably expect? BTW, one of my nodes got about 0.039 BTC. It was a pleasant surprise. At least I can say that I got my scrap BTC without taking part in a signature campaign. Title: Re: Bitnodes Incentive Program Post by: disclosure on May 30, 2015, 01:14:06 PM Hey "disclosure" a.k.a. Addy Yeow! Could you please add deregistration to your site? Or maybe some form of automatic decay, so that nodes inaccessible for over a month get dropped from your scanner? I rather thoughtlessly registered several of my test nodes and I wanted to move them to a better, more permanent addresses. It was easy to press "ADD" before thinking it through. Some sort of verification similar to your incentive registration should be a good and safe deregistration. Thanks. Edit: Fixed spelling of the first name. Done. Node will now be removed automatically from the site if it is down for more than a week. Title: Re: Bitnodes Incentive Program Post by: 2112 on May 30, 2015, 03:06:39 PM Done. Node will now be removed automatically from the site if it is down for more than a week. Thank you very much, my friend.It is a great relief to my eyes when the search of your site no longer shows the record of my stupidity when I was testing my IPv6 network overlay. Hopefully it also lowered the load on your scanner. Title: Re: Bitnodes Incentive Program Post by: d4n13 on June 25, 2015, 04:41:53 AM I think their API fails when you try to add an onion node.
Bummer... It would be nice to know how many nodes there are on each of the for networks IPV4=? IPV6=? ONION=? Anyone know the bitnodes API dev to submit a feature request? Title: Re: Bitnodes Incentive Program Post by: CohibAA on October 06, 2015, 08:20:07 PM It looks like the incentive program will live on indefinitely now:
The 21 Full Nodes Index (https://medium.com/@21dotco/the-21-full-nodes-index-f73a628b4762) 21 Inc Pledges Support to Bitcoin's Vanishing Nodes (http://www.coindesk.com/21-inc-pledges-support-to-bitcoins-vanishing-nodes/) 8) Title: Re: Bitnodes Incentive Program Post by: Jake-R on October 06, 2015, 08:36:23 PM I wish I could figure out how to register the node I am running on my spare Windows desktop. I have port 8333 forwarding to the Qt wallet and it shows as being reachable on Bitnodes' site.
Title: Re: Bitnodes Incentive Program Post by: CohibAA on October 06, 2015, 08:41:53 PM I wish I could figure out how to register the node I am running on my spare Windows desktop. I have port 8333 forwarding to the Qt wallet and it shows as being reachable on Bitnodes' site. It's certainly not user-friendly to get your node verified (https://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinBeginners/comments/3nqj16/getting_node_verified_with_bitnodes_n00b_question/). I have no idea how you would do it on Windows, but maybe you can use a linux device from the same IP? Title: Re: Bitnodes Incentive Program Post by: Jake-R on October 06, 2015, 08:45:37 PM I wish I could figure out how to register the node I am running on my spare Windows desktop. I have port 8333 forwarding to the Qt wallet and it shows as being reachable on Bitnodes' site. It's certainly not user-friendly to get your node verified (https://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinBeginners/comments/3nqj16/getting_node_verified_with_bitnodes_n00b_question/). I have no idea how you would do it on Windows, but maybe you can use a linux device from the same IP? Thanks for the link, I wish you could just register automatically from their webpage when you "Check Node". Title: Re: Bitnodes Incentive Program Post by: Mikestang on October 06, 2015, 09:37:21 PM I wish I could figure out how to register the node I am running on my spare Windows desktop. I have port 8333 forwarding to the Qt wallet and it shows as being reachable on Bitnodes' site. It's certainly not user-friendly to get your node verified (https://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinBeginners/comments/3nqj16/getting_node_verified_with_bitnodes_n00b_question/). I have no idea how you would do it on Windows, but maybe you can use a linux device from the same IP? Thanks for the link, I wish you could just register automatically from their webpage when you "Check Node". That's not secure enough, you need to be able to do an api call from the ip address that the node is run from. I was in your shoes months ago, but two pages back you'll see that instructions were provided to me (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=952996.msg10830252#msg10830252) that are easy to follow for folk like me that don't use Linux (yet) or program or anything. I successfully registered my node on a windows machine and haven't had issues since. I don't leave my webserver (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=952996.msg10857600#msg10857600) (see link for how to set one up on your machine) running all the time for security reasons, but I redo the api call weekly to keep the btc address registered with my node. Install Cygwin and curl support to enter the command line stuff. You have a static ip address, right? If not then you cannot register your node. Title: Re: Bitnodes Incentive Program Post by: shorena on October 07, 2015, 08:44:18 AM I dont think I will reach a PIX over 8.0 now that I have to run the node in pruned mode... I redid the verification anyway.
https://bitnodes.21.co/nodes/leaderboard/?q=213.165.91.169 Title: Re: Bitnodes Incentive Program Post by: Mikestang on October 07, 2015, 05:05:04 PM I dont think I will reach a PIX over 8.0 now that I have to run the node in pruned mode... I redid the verification anyway. https://bitnodes.21.co/nodes/leaderboard/?q=213.165.91.169 I noticed that since 21.co took over bitnodes my PIX is no longer over 8.0; it had been consistently ~8.3. Did something change that I'm not aware of? You have to actively do something to run in pruned mode, right? My PIX is only 7.6 right now and no clue why. Title: Re: Bitnodes Incentive Program Post by: shorena on October 07, 2015, 05:43:25 PM I dont think I will reach a PIX over 8.0 now that I have to run the node in pruned mode... I redid the verification anyway. https://bitnodes.21.co/nodes/leaderboard/?q=213.165.91.169 I noticed that since 21.co took over bitnodes my PIX is no longer over 8.0; it had been consistently ~8.3. Did something change that I'm not aware of? You have to actively do something to run in pruned mode, right? My PIX is only 7.6 right now and no clue why. Yes, you have to add a line to the bitcoin.conf in order to run your node in pruned mode. If you replace my IP in the link above with yours, you should see which is lacking. If its just uptime or latency it should fix itself. Title: Re: Bitnodes Incentive Program Post by: Mikestang on October 07, 2015, 05:58:15 PM Yes, you have to add a line to the bitcoin.conf in order to run your node in pruned mode. If you replace my IP in the link above with yours, you should see which is lacking. If its just uptime or latency it should fix itself. Well derp on me, I didn't even think to look at the fields and figure out what I was lacking. Seems to be I'm missing Weekly Ave. Latency, which is odd since my node has been up and running for many months and I have a value for Weekly Uptime index of 0.9. Hopefully it will self-correct. From looking at your node it appears that pruned mode results in a Service Index of nil. What does this service index value mean in lay man's terms? Title: Re: Bitnodes Incentive Program Post by: shorena on October 07, 2015, 06:54:07 PM Yes, you have to add a line to the bitcoin.conf in order to run your node in pruned mode. If you replace my IP in the link above with yours, you should see which is lacking. If its just uptime or latency it should fix itself. Well derp on me, I didn't even think to look at the fields and figure out what I was lacking. Seems to be I'm missing Weekly Ave. Latency, which is odd since my node has been up and running for many months and I have a value for Weekly Uptime index of 0.9. Hopefully it will self-correct. From looking at your node it appears that pruned mode results in a Service Index of nil. What does this service index value mean in lay man's terms? AFAIK there are only two modes. 1.0 is "network" which basically means its a full node that relays blocks and 0.0 is a pruned node which does not relay blocks. It verifies blocks, relays and verifies transactions and AFAIK also offers the usualy services for slim clients like multibit. I might be wrong on the last part though. Title: Re: Bitnodes Incentive Program Post by: chek2fire on October 08, 2015, 03:53:36 PM I have setup my two nodes with success. The tip is to create a page that will appear your bitcoin adress.
I have find very useful this guide https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2wrmes/how_to_set_up_an_incentivized_node_in_ubuntu/ but in the last command i have use this https://bitnodes.21.co/api/#node-bitcoin-address curl -H "Accept: application/json; indent=4" -d "bitcoin_address=137SdnVDqHdtT5b4UuK4mctua4WJ3z6BKa" -d "url=http://148.251.238.178" https://bitnodes.21.co/api/v1/nodes/148.251.238.178-8333/ you replace your adress, ip etc. In the reddit guide it says how you can create a simple page. One other option is to install apache2 and after that if you have ubuntu you go to the folder /var/www/html//var/www/html/ and you create there a simple index.html file with your bitcoin address. For the windows users i have found this guide but i dont know if it works http://bloginhell.me/guide-to-setup-a-bitcoin-node-and-join-bitnoded-io-incentive-program Title: Re: Bitnodes Incentive Program Post by: Searing on November 06, 2015, 10:02:06 AM Whenever I run the code, I get [...] You have to activate the node first. I just did it for you. Next step is to have your BTC address somewhere on your index.html Also compelely lost on this thread no idea wtf you are talking about....got bitseeds v2 supposed plug and play and no idea how to set up a web server or whatever to get this to work and of course bitseeds had NO email or any support at all just the box (which seems to run fine as full node found by bitnodes and all) but as to how to register it its a no go for me .completely befuddled... so I guess I have a full node running (they can find me) but no verify...so I suppose because I'm not verified is just eventually goes 'poof' and i'm banned? (well that was a mistake trying to setup a node to help and zippo) live and learn i guess Title: Re: Bitnodes Incentive Program Post by: shorena on November 06, 2015, 10:05:16 AM Whenever I run the code, I get [...] You have to activate the node first. I just did it for you. Next step is to have your BTC address somewhere on your index.html Also compeletely lost on this thread no idea wtf you are talking about....got bitseeds v2 supposed plug and play and no idea how to set up a web server or whatever to get this to work and of course bitseeds had NO email or any support at all just the box (which seems to run fine as full node found by bitnodes and all) but as to how to register it its a no go for me .completely befuddled... It might not be possible to join this incentive programm with your bitseed node. You will need to set it up as a webserver so the site can query your bitcoin address from it. Title: Re: Bitnodes Incentive Program Post by: Searing on November 06, 2015, 10:08:52 AM Quote from: Newar li64.83.225.145ink=topic=952996.msg10830804#msg10830804 date=1426845544 Whenever I run the code, I get [...] You have to activate the node first. I just did it for you. Next step is to have your BTC address somewhere on your index.html Also compeletely lost on this thread no idea wtf you are talking about....got bitseeds v2 supposed plug and play and no idea how to set up a web server or whatever to get this to work and of course bitseeds had NO email or any support at all just the box (which seems to run fine as full node found by bitnodes and all) but as to how to register it its a no go for me .completely befuddled... It might not be possible to join this incentive programm with your bitseed node. You will need to set it up as a webserver so the site can query your bitcoin address from it. It is still gonna be used as a bitcoin node right or if so ..it will not be listed as a verified node on their site i gather if i do verify...I guess what i'm saying I'm running a bitcoin node ok for the network but bitnodes is clueless it exists as legit? and i have a rasberry pi in the bitseeds v2 node box..running linaro but i've not linux skills but getting putty ssh up an running to look at Titan miners prob 3x as many bitcoin nodes out there as bitnodes thinks edit": must be able to do it...a sheet in my bitseeds box but it just says contact binodes etc very vague..and again no support not even a chat place for their product on here i doubt there will be any more of these units sold....no email on the site (if there ever was) This is not user friendly. I have a full node running I think. 17 connections and it shows up on the node map. I have no idea how to run a webserver or register my address however. anyway think I'm in the above guys situation. Looks to be running fine but not 'verified' so wtf if they don't want me in the party they could not have found a more secure way to keep me from being verified from what I can tell...i'll just be a bitcoin node in stealth mode I guess (rebel w/o a clue is my motto) :) also had the town wrong on the map..there are 3 main isp nodes in my state so no nodes not listed on those 3 trunk lines for Inet into state..the rest of the state does not exist heh :) Title: Re: Bitnodes Incentive Program Post by: shorena on November 06, 2015, 10:13:59 AM -snip- It is still gonna be used as a bitcoin node right or if so Yep, this is just a certain service. ..it will not be listed as a verified node on their site i gather if i do verify...I guess what i'm saying I'm running a bitcoin node ok for the network but bitnodes is clueless it exists as legit? It might even see it as full node without the verification and show stats for your node, etc, but you might not be able to join the incentive. Thats true for most nodes though. They currently see ~5400 nodes, 252 are verified, 151 have a high enough score to have a chance to get the price. As long as you have a machine running bitcoin core you are running a full node. If it allows for connections from the outside bitnodes will be able to pick it up and query it from time to time. and i have a rasberry pi in the bitseeds v2 node box..running linaro but i've not linux skills but getting putty ssh up an running to look at Titan miners prob 3x as many bitcoin nodes out there as bitnodes thinks I would guess even more as they can only list those that open their ports. Many do not want that or dont bother, but are still part of the network, just limited to 8 outgoing connections. Title: Re: Bitnodes Incentive Program Post by: Searing on November 06, 2015, 10:23:00 AM -snip- It is still gonna be used as a bitcoin node right or if so Yep, this is just a certain service. ..it will not be listed as a verified node on their site i gather if i do verify...I guess what i'm saying I'm running a bitcoin node ok for the network but bitnodes is clueless it exists as legit? It might even see it as full node without the verification and show stats for your node, etc, but you might not be able to join the incentive. Thats true for most nodes though. They currently see ~5400 nodes, 252 are verified, 151 have a high enough score to have a chance to get the price. As long as you have a machine running bitcoin core you are running a full node. If it allows for connections from the outside bitnodes will be able to pick it up and query it from time to time. and i have a rasberry pi in the bitseeds v2 node box..running linaro but i've not linux skills but getting putty ssh up an running to look at Titan miners prob 3x as many bitcoin nodes out there as bitnodes thinks I would guess even more as they can only list those that open their ports. Many do not want that or dont bother, but are still part of the network, just limited to 8 outgoing connections. my ports are open and working fine..i showed up as part of bitnodes network for 15 min...now because I can't verify thru the 80 port by having a mini web site of whatever voodoo with linux on the pi..i'm now locked out again so bitnodes says I don't exist sure makes for a silly map..was on chat 5 guys on their have nodes up but can't register them either so they just run them so unless I'm missing something my bitcoin node is running as a full node it is just bitnodes can't find them ..hell that means with this cluster the bitcoin network in reality is prob 5x the size screw it if it is up and helps the network fine...not worth a 10 buck a week gamble to get on their node map...it is a shame thou they seem to be missing the frigging boat on adoption of nodes with this cluster edit: again I was up on their bitnodes map etc..now I'm not so again....if you can't verify they are not keeping you on (or why did my node suddenly go poof and my miners and node info at this end is just dandy?) seems kinda an ego based site ..we are the map ..(er not really) whatever...but I don't think you stay on their map if you can't verify eventually they dump you as a a scam node er edit again seems i'm back ..thou I may just play yo/yo with their bot there forever from now on ...but at least if you can open a port MAYBE the map is correct..I guess thats something Title: Re: Bitnodes Incentive Program Post by: BTCBinary on November 06, 2015, 05:37:47 PM It's about time they decide to disscuss a possible incentive for running a full node. If they manage to get some kind of incentive for people running nodes I'm certain that we will see a lot of people running them from in a few time. Besides it will help keep decentralization on the network.
Title: Re: Bitnodes Incentive Program Post by: Mikestang on November 06, 2015, 05:49:15 PM because I can't verify thru the 80 port by having a mini web site of whatever voodoo with linux on the pi You don't need a web server running on the pi, you need a web server running on any machine that is at the same ip address as your node (your pi). Do you have another computer you can use? An aside, because I never saw it mentioned anywhere, but 21.co took over the incentive program a little while ago. I didn't notice until I was making the API call and it couldn't find the address any more. Be sure to update your urls! Title: Re: Bitnodes Incentive Program Post by: manselr on November 06, 2015, 07:15:48 PM I would like to see at least an average of 10000 nodes being operative. A recurring argument for Bitcoin haters is pointing at the declining number of nodes. We need to do something so more people starts supporting the network with nodes all over the planet.
Title: Re: Bitnodes Incentive Program Post by: shorena on November 06, 2015, 08:40:47 PM I would like to see at least an average of 10000 nodes being operative. A recurring argument for Bitcoin haters is pointing at the declining number of nodes. We need to do something so more people starts supporting the network with nodes all over the planet. Just rent a VPS for 10$/month and setup a node. Thats it, you are now doing your part. Be smart about it though better to have a 200GB HDD than a 50 GB SSD. Other than that, a single core and 2 GB ram w/o swap are enough for stable 50 connections. IIRC there was even someone that did all the work for people as long as they paid the server. Title: Re: Bitnodes Incentive Program Post by: ranochigo on November 07, 2015, 07:59:38 AM It's about time they decide to disscuss a possible incentive for running a full node. If they manage to get some kind of incentive for people running nodes I'm certain that we will see a lot of people running them from in a few time. Besides it will help keep decentralization on the network. Bitnodes program does work well in terms of attracting people but it is a lottery so it isn't a perfect solution to compensate people. In the long term, it is hard to fund. IMO, network needs more decentralised nodes, not nodes in a concentrated area or in a datacenter, which is the current problem Bitcoin is facing.Title: Re: Bitnodes Incentive Program Post by: shorena on November 07, 2015, 09:56:41 AM It's about time they decide to disscuss a possible incentive for running a full node. If they manage to get some kind of incentive for people running nodes I'm certain that we will see a lot of people running them from in a few time. Besides it will help keep decentralization on the network. Bitnodes program does work well in terms of attracting people but it is a lottery so it isn't a perfect solution to compensate people. In the long term, it is hard to fund. IMO, network needs more decentralised nodes, not nodes in a concentrated area or in a datacenter, which is the current problem Bitcoin is facing.I dont think its such a big problem. For one there are many different datacenters are the world. Almost every major city will at least have one business renting out servers. Thus its not like there is a single point of failure. The other thing is that these servers are not controlled by a single instance and thus cant easily be used to manipulate the network. Title: Re: Bitnodes Incentive Program Post by: Oscilson on November 08, 2015, 09:03:35 AM I would like to see at least an average of 10000 nodes being operative. A recurring argument for Bitcoin haters is pointing at the declining number of nodes. We need to do something so more people starts supporting the network with nodes all over the planet. Yes. I run my bitcoin core wallet all the time. Now it has 61 active connection to the network. I contribute to the bitcoin network to enhance the bitcoin value. It does not matter too much if I am rewarded or not. I am rewarded, it is good. If not, that is my service to the society. Title: Re: Bitnodes Incentive Program Post by: Searing on November 08, 2015, 11:29:22 AM I would like to see at least an average of 10000 nodes being operative. A recurring argument for Bitcoin haters is pointing at the declining number of nodes. We need to do something so more people starts supporting the network with nodes all over the planet. Yes. I run my bitcoin core wallet all the time. Now it has 61 active connection to the network. I contribute to the bitcoin network to enhance the bitcoin value. It does not matter too much if I am rewarded or not. I am rewarded, it is good. If not, that is my service to the society. well I got my bitseed v2 node up...did not bother with the open www server on port 80 for the verify and the 10 buck a week contest....don't need an open port 80 on firewall that bad :) on the other hand after the bitnode unit 'synch'd' with the blockchain it is still only up like 15% on 12 connections... I run TWO Titan scrypt miners at 650mh on a static ip best you can get charter business ..(not wireless) line....with this node and two old (not good for anything beyond windows xp) laptops using Unbuntu to monitor each with ssh via putty.......so hell any suggestions? or is the bitnode map/network just that 'flaky'? or the raspberry pi just has too much work in the bitseed v2 device? anyway maybe I should cut back the connections back from 12 which it seems to want to auto set at to 8 or so? or anyone have any other 'tweaks' i'm unaware of? Title: Re: Bitnodes Incentive Program Post by: unamis76 on November 08, 2015, 03:51:46 PM Hopped up on the incentives program... Wondering if my node will get on the list :) It would be a good sign, not only for the small tip, but it would also mean that my node is pretty well connected.
Title: Re: Bitnodes Incentive Program Post by: Searing on November 09, 2015, 06:47:59 AM Followup on my previous rant above.
The node I got was the bitseeds v2 node and got in contact with them..they were very helpful. Anyway currently at 26 connections and it has been up for the day. I guess it is not enough to wait like 1 days AFTER the bitcoin node says it is SYNCHED. It seems to take another 2 days to go over 12 connections (or hell it was just bitnodes issue) Is there anyway to verify on bitnodes w/o opening port 80 and run the web option page on the raspberry pi? Not big on keeping port 80 open for the $10 incentive at about 1/5839 nodes or some such) :) Also anyone know of any 'interesting' ssh putty commands? Is there a putty terminal screen that shows what is going on with the bitcoin node via putty? or anything else interesting I can run from putty? I have 2 knc Titan miners I monitor with ssh putty figure I could toss up a screen for the bitseeds v2 node too if it shows anything interesting as it chugs along and i'm a linaro newbie (the monitor laptops for the titan i run putty to watch the titans uses unbuntu) anyway be complete on commands ..I know zip ..make it idiot proof (thus why I paid like $75 more to buy this bitseed v2 node device rather then just build my own... I know my limitations) :) any other 'tweaks' etc to watch this bitseeds v2 box also welcom (we also serve who buy a btc node stick it up .get it working and promptly 'ignore' it....but then again a ssh putty screen showing some 'node' action would be nice for the other machines I have monitoring stuff via sss on the miners anyway) thanks for the help Title: Re: Bitnodes Incentive Program Post by: mmortal03 on February 11, 2016, 04:30:21 AM Is this program still running?
The following section of the BitcoinWiki seems to be out of date, with the link to the Incentive Program page being broken: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Full_node#Some_are_incentivizing_it Quote Bitnodes is incentivizing full node operators "until the end of 2015 or until 10,000 nodes are running." For rules and how to join the incentives program, visit Bitnodes Incentive Program. Title: Re: Bitnodes Incentive Program Post by: chek2fire on February 11, 2016, 12:43:54 PM i dont think so
Title: Re: Bitnodes Incentive Program Post by: gregyoung14 on February 11, 2016, 12:56:21 PM Hopped up on the incentives program... Wondering if my node will get on the list :) It would be a good sign, not only for the small tip, but it would also mean that my node is pretty well connected. Now i'm getting all giddy on this. Not sure if i myself would be investing here as well. Title: Re: Bitnodes Incentive Program Post by: 2112 on January 21, 2017, 02:54:26 AM I'm not sure if Addy Yeow is still following this thread, but I noticed an important change.
My Bitcoin testnet nodes started getting incoming connections from clients calling themselves /bitnodes.21.co/ . This is a standard signature that was used on Bitcoin mainnet monitoring tools available via https://bitnodes.21.co/ . Does anyone know the URL to access the equivalent testnet website? Title: Re: Bitnodes Incentive Program Post by: shorena on January 21, 2017, 08:06:20 PM I'm not sure if Addy Yeow is still following this thread, but I noticed an important change. My Bitcoin testnet nodes started getting incoming connections from clients calling themselves /bitnodes.21.co/ . This is a standard signature that was used on Bitcoin mainnet monitoring tools available via https://bitnodes.21.co/ . Does anyone know the URL to access the equivalent testnet website? Its a config option[1], did you happen to log the IP? Quote The crawler maintained by Bitnodes connects from these IP addresses: 136.243.139.96, 136.243.139.120, 2a01:4f8:212:3b1f::2 [1] https://github.com/ayeowch/bitnodes/blob/cb23696fa355c2cddf2fc32a6933e00aabe13e5f/crawl.conf.default#L6 Title: Re: Bitnodes Incentive Program Post by: 2112 on January 22, 2017, 05:13:26 AM Its a config option[1], did you happen to log the IP? Thank you for your suggestion. I had the firewall set for logging only blocked connection attempts. I enabled logging of the successful IPv6 connections and I see 2a01:4f8:212:3b1f::2 as the source address. So the connections are coming from the same monitoring server. They are kept open for exactly one minute and one second.Quote The crawler maintained by Bitnodes connects from these IP addresses: 136.243.139.96, 136.243.139.120, 2a01:4f8:212:3b1f::2 [1] https://github.com/ayeowch/bitnodes/blob/cb23696fa355c2cddf2fc32a6933e00aabe13e5f/crawl.conf.default#L6 Do you happen to find the URL for seeing the testnet results? |
