Bitnodes Incentive Program

[shorena]

I dont think I will reach a PIX over 8.0 now that I have to run the node in pruned mode... I redid the verification anyway.

https://bitnodes.21.co/nodes/leaderboard/?q=213.165.91.169

I noticed that since 21.co took over bitnodes my PIX is no longer over 8.0; it had been consistently ~8.3.  Did something change that I'm not aware of?  You have to actively do something to run in pruned mode, right?  My PIX is only 7.6 right now and no clue why.

Yes, you have to add a line to the bitcoin.conf in order to run your node in pruned mode. If you replace my IP in the link above with yours, you should see which is lacking. If its just uptime or latency it should fix itself.

[Mikestang]

Yes, you have to add a line to the bitcoin.conf in order to run your node in pruned mode. If you replace my IP in the link above with yours, you should see which is lacking. If its just uptime or latency it should fix itself.

Well derp on me, I didn't even think to look at the fields and figure out what I was lacking.  Seems to be I'm missing Weekly Ave. Latency, which is odd since my node has been up and running for many months and I have a value for Weekly Uptime index of 0.9.  Hopefully it will self-correct.

From looking at your node it appears that pruned mode results in a Service Index of nil.  What does this service index value mean in lay man's terms?  

[shorena]

Yes, you have to add a line to the bitcoin.conf in order to run your node in pruned mode. If you replace my IP in the link above with yours, you should see which is lacking. If its just uptime or latency it should fix itself.

Well derp on me, I didn't even think to look at the fields and figure out what I was lacking.  Seems to be I'm missing Weekly Ave. Latency, which is odd since my node has been up and running for many months and I have a value for Weekly Uptime index of 0.9.  Hopefully it will self-correct.

From looking at your node it appears that pruned mode results in a Service Index of nil.  What does this service index value mean in lay man's terms?  

AFAIK there are only two modes. 1.0 is "network" which basically means its a full node that relays blocks and 0.0 is a pruned node which does not relay blocks. It verifies blocks, relays and verifies transactions and AFAIK also offers the usualy services for slim clients like multibit. I might be wrong on the last part though.

[chek2fire]

I have setup my two nodes with success. The tip is to create a page that will appear your bitcoin adress.
I have find very useful this guide

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2wrmes/how_to_set_up_an_incentivized_node_in_ubuntu/

but in the last command i have use this

https://bitnodes.21.co/api/#node-bitcoin-address

curl -H "Accept: application/json; indent=4" -d "bitcoin_address=137SdnVDqHdtT5b4UuK4mctua4WJ3z6BKa" -d "url=http://148.251.238.178" https://bitnodes.21.co/api/v1/nodes/148.251.238.178-8333/

you replace your adress, ip etc.

In the reddit guide it says how you can create a simple page. One other option is to install apache2 and after that if you have ubuntu you go to the folder
/var/www/html//var/www/html/
and you create there a simple index.html file with your bitcoin address.

For the windows users i have found this guide but i dont know if it works

http://bloginhell.me/guide-to-setup-a-bitcoin-node-and-join-bitnoded-io-incentive-program

[Searing]

Whenever I run the code, I get [...]

You have to activate the node first. I just did it for you.

Next step is to have your BTC address somewhere on your index.html

Also compelely lost on this thread no idea wtf you are talking about....got bitseeds v2 supposed plug and play and no idea how to set up a web server or whatever to get this to work and of course bitseeds had NO email or any support at all just the box (which seems to run fine as full node found by bitnodes and all) but as to how to register it its a no go for me .completely befuddled...

so I guess I have a full node running (they can find me) but no verify...so I suppose because I'm not verified is just eventually goes 'poof' and i'm banned?

(well that was a mistake trying to setup a node to help and zippo) live and learn i guess

[shorena]

Whenever I run the code, I get [...]

You have to activate the node first. I just did it for you.

Next step is to have your BTC address somewhere on your index.html

Also compeletely lost on this thread no idea wtf you are talking about....got bitseeds v2 supposed plug and play and no idea how to set up a web server or whatever to get this to work and of course bitseeds had NO email or any support at all just the box (which seems to run fine as full node found by bitnodes and all) but as to how to register it its a no go for me .completely befuddled...

It might not be possible to join this incentive programm with your bitseed node. You will need to set it up as a webserver so the site can query your bitcoin address from it.

[Searing]

Whenever I run the code, I get [...]

You have to activate the node first. I just did it for you.

Next step is to have your BTC address somewhere on your index.html

Also compeletely lost on this thread no idea wtf you are talking about....got bitseeds v2 supposed plug and play and no idea how to set up a web server or whatever to get this to work and of course bitseeds had NO email or any support at all just the box (which seems to run fine as full node found by bitnodes and all) but as to how to register it its a no go for me .completely befuddled...

It might not be possible to join this incentive programm with your bitseed node. You will need to set it up as a webserver so the site can query your bitcoin address from it.

It is still gonna be used as a bitcoin node right or if so ..it will not be listed as a verified node on their site i gather if i do verify...I guess what i'm saying I'm running a bitcoin node ok for the network but bitnodes is clueless it exists as legit?

and i have a rasberry pi in the bitseeds v2 node box..running linaro but i've not linux skills but getting putty ssh up an running to look at Titan miners

prob 3x as many bitcoin nodes out there as bitnodes thinks

edit": must be able to do it...a sheet in my bitseeds box but it just says contact binodes etc very vague..and again no support not even a chat place for their product on here

i doubt there will be any more of these units sold....no email on the site (if there ever was)

This is not user friendly.  I have a full node running I think.  17 connections and it shows up on the node map.  I have no idea how to run a webserver or register my address however.  

anyway think I'm in the above guys situation. Looks to be running fine but not 'verified' so wtf if they don't want me in the party they could not have found a more secure way to keep me from being verified from what I can tell...i'll just be a bitcoin node in stealth mode I guess (rebel w/o a clue is my motto)

also had the town wrong on the map..there are 3 main isp nodes in my state so no nodes not listed on those 3 trunk lines for Inet into state..the rest of the state does not exist heh

[shorena]

-snip-
It is still gonna be used as a bitcoin node right or if so

Yep, this is just a certain service.

..it will not be listed as a verified node on their site i gather if i do verify...I guess what i'm saying I'm running a bitcoin node ok for the network but bitnodes is clueless it exists as legit?

It might even see it as full node without the verification and show stats for your node, etc, but you might not be able to join the incentive. Thats true for most nodes though. They currently see ~5400 nodes, 252 are verified, 151 have a high enough score to have a chance to get the price. As long as you have a machine running bitcoin core you are running a full node. If it allows for connections from the outside bitnodes will be able to pick it up and query it from time to time.

and i have a rasberry pi in the bitseeds v2 node box..running linaro but i've not linux skills but getting putty ssh up an running to look at Titan miners

prob 3x as many bitcoin nodes out there as bitnodes thinks

I would guess even more as they can only list those that open their ports. Many do not want that or dont bother, but are still part of the network, just limited to 8 outgoing connections.

[Searing]

-snip-
It is still gonna be used as a bitcoin node right or if so

Yep, this is just a certain service.

..it will not be listed as a verified node on their site i gather if i do verify...I guess what i'm saying I'm running a bitcoin node ok for the network but bitnodes is clueless it exists as legit?

It might even see it as full node without the verification and show stats for your node, etc, but you might not be able to join the incentive. Thats true for most nodes though. They currently see ~5400 nodes, 252 are verified, 151 have a high enough score to have a chance to get the price. As long as you have a machine running bitcoin core you are running a full node. If it allows for connections from the outside bitnodes will be able to pick it up and query it from time to time.

and i have a rasberry pi in the bitseeds v2 node box..running linaro but i've not linux skills but getting putty ssh up an running to look at Titan miners

prob 3x as many bitcoin nodes out there as bitnodes thinks

I would guess even more as they can only list those that open their ports. Many do not want that or dont bother, but are still part of the network, just limited to 8 outgoing connections.

my ports are open and working fine..i showed up as part of bitnodes network for 15 min...now because I can't verify thru the 80 port by having a mini web site of whatever voodoo with linux on the pi..i'm now locked out again so bitnodes says I don't exist

sure makes for a silly map..was on chat 5 guys on their have nodes up but can't register them either so they just run them

so unless I'm missing something my bitcoin node is running as a full node it is just bitnodes can't find them ..hell that means with this cluster the bitcoin network in reality is prob 5x the size

screw it if it is up and helps the network fine...not worth a 10 buck a week gamble to get on their node map...it is a shame thou they seem to be missing the frigging boat on adoption of nodes with this cluster

edit: again I was up on their bitnodes map etc..now I'm not so again....if you can't verify they are not keeping you on (or why did my node suddenly go poof and my miners and node info at this end is just dandy?)

seems kinda an ego based site ..we are the map ..(er not really)

whatever...but I don't think you stay on their map if you can't verify eventually they dump you as a a scam node

er edit again

seems i'm back ..thou I may just play yo/yo with their bot there forever from now on ...but at least if you can open a port MAYBE the map is correct..I guess thats something

[BTCBinary]

It's about time they decide to disscuss a possible incentive for running a full node. If they manage to get some kind of incentive for people running nodes I'm certain that we will see a lot of people running them from in a few time. Besides it will help keep decentralization on the network.

[Mikestang]

because I can't verify thru the 80 port by having a mini web site of whatever voodoo with linux on the pi

You don't need a web server running on the pi, you need a web server running on any machine that is at the same ip address as your node (your pi).  Do you have another computer you can use?

An aside, because I never saw it mentioned anywhere, but 21.co took over the incentive program a little while ago.  I didn't notice until I was making the API call and it couldn't find the address any more.  Be sure to update your urls!

[manselr]

I would like to see at least an average of 10000 nodes being operative. A recurring argument for Bitcoin haters is pointing at the declining number of nodes. We need to do something so more people starts supporting the network with nodes all over the planet.

[shorena]

I would like to see at least an average of 10000 nodes being operative. A recurring argument for Bitcoin haters is pointing at the declining number of nodes. We need to do something so more people starts supporting the network with nodes all over the planet.

Just rent a VPS for 10$/month and setup a node. Thats it, you are now doing your part. Be smart about it though better to have a 200GB HDD than a 50 GB SSD. Other than that, a single core and 2 GB ram w/o swap are enough for stable 50 connections. IIRC there was even someone that did all the work for people as long as they paid the server.

[ranochigo]

It's about time they decide to disscuss a possible incentive for running a full node. If they manage to get some kind of incentive for people running nodes I'm certain that we will see a lot of people running them from in a few time. Besides it will help keep decentralization on the network.

Bitnodes program does work well in terms of attracting people but it is a lottery so it isn't a perfect solution to compensate people. In the long term, it is hard to fund. IMO, network needs more decentralised nodes, not nodes in a concentrated area or in a datacenter, which is the current problem Bitcoin is facing.

[shorena]

It's about time they decide to disscuss a possible incentive for running a full node. If they manage to get some kind of incentive for people running nodes I'm certain that we will see a lot of people running them from in a few time. Besides it will help keep decentralization on the network.

Bitnodes program does work well in terms of attracting people but it is a lottery so it isn't a perfect solution to compensate people. In the long term, it is hard to fund. IMO, network needs more decentralised nodes, not nodes in a concentrated area or in a datacenter, which is the current problem Bitcoin is facing.

I dont think its such a big problem.

For one there are many different datacenters are the world. Almost every major city will at least have one business renting out servers. Thus its not like there is a single point of failure. The other thing is that these servers are not controlled by a single instance and thus cant easily be used to manipulate the network.

[Oscilson]

I would like to see at least an average of 10000 nodes being operative. A recurring argument for Bitcoin haters is pointing at the declining number of nodes. We need to do something so more people starts supporting the network with nodes all over the planet.

Yes. I run my bitcoin core wallet all the time. Now it has 61 active connection to the network. I contribute to the bitcoin network to enhance the bitcoin value.

It does not matter too much if I am rewarded or not. I am rewarded, it is good. If not, that is my service to the society.

[Searing]

I would like to see at least an average of 10000 nodes being operative. A recurring argument for Bitcoin haters is pointing at the declining number of nodes. We need to do something so more people starts supporting the network with nodes all over the planet.

Yes. I run my bitcoin core wallet all the time. Now it has 61 active connection to the network. I contribute to the bitcoin network to enhance the bitcoin value.

It does not matter too much if I am rewarded or not. I am rewarded, it is good. If not, that is my service to the society.

well I got my bitseed v2 node up...did not bother with the open www server on port 80 for the verify and the 10 buck a week contest....don't need an open port 80 on firewall that bad

on the other hand after the bitnode unit 'synch'd' with the blockchain it is still only up like 15% on 12 connections...

I run TWO Titan scrypt miners at 650mh on a static ip best you can get charter business ..(not wireless) line....with this node and two old (not good for anything beyond windows xp) laptops using Unbuntu to monitor each with ssh via putty.......so hell any suggestions? or is the bitnode map/network just that 'flaky'? or the raspberry pi just has too much work in the bitseed v2 device?


anyway maybe I should cut back the connections back from 12 which it seems to want to auto set at to 8 or so?

or anyone have any other 'tweaks' i'm unaware of?

[unamis76]

Hopped up on the incentives program... Wondering if my node will get on the list It would be a good sign, not only for the small tip, but it would also mean that my node is pretty well connected.

[Searing]

Followup on my previous rant above.

The node I got was the bitseeds v2 node and got in contact with them..they were very helpful.

Anyway currently at 26 connections and it has been up for the day.

I guess it is not enough to wait like 1 days AFTER the bitcoin node says it is SYNCHED. It seems to take another 2 days to go
over 12 connections (or hell it was just bitnodes issue)

Is there anyway to verify on bitnodes w/o opening port 80 and run the web option page on the raspberry pi? Not big on keeping
port 80 open for the $10 incentive at about 1/5839 nodes or some such)

Also anyone know of any 'interesting' ssh putty commands? Is there a putty terminal screen that shows what is going on with the bitcoin node
via putty? or anything else interesting I can run from putty?

I have 2 knc Titan miners I monitor with ssh putty figure I could toss up a screen for the bitseeds v2 node too if it shows anything interesting as it chugs along

and i'm a linaro newbie (the monitor laptops for the titan i run putty to watch the titans uses unbuntu)

anyway be complete on commands ..I know zip ..make it idiot proof (thus why I paid like $75 more to buy this bitseed v2 node device rather then just build my own...
I know my limitations)

any other 'tweaks' etc to watch this bitseeds v2 box also welcom

(we also serve who buy a btc node stick it up .get it working and promptly 'ignore' it....but then again a ssh putty screen showing some 'node' action would be nice for the
other machines I have monitoring stuff via sss on the miners anyway)

thanks for the help

[mmortal03]

Is this program still running?

The following section of the BitcoinWiki seems to be out of date, with the link to the Incentive Program page being broken: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Full_node#Some_are_incentivizing_it

Bitnodes is incentivizing full node operators "until the end of 2015 or until 10,000 nodes are running." For rules and how to join the incentives program, visit Bitnodes Incentive Program.