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Title: My trust :( im not alt Candystripes accounts! Post by: ikydesu on February 18, 2015, 08:24:41 AM i want to clarification, im not alt Candystripes accounts :( i have been hacked! :(
to redsn0w, Quickseller and mods please give my neutral trust back :( Title: Re: My trust :( im not alt Candystripes accounts! Post by: shorena on February 18, 2015, 08:25:36 AM i want to clarification, im not alt Candystripes accounts :( i have been hacked! :( Can you prove it? to redsn0w, Quickseller and mods please give my neutral trust back :( Trust is not moderated. You have to talk to redsn0w and quickseller directly. Title: Re: My trust :( im not alt Candystripes accounts! Post by: geforcelover on February 18, 2015, 08:27:00 AM i want to clarification, im not alt Candystripes accounts :( i have been hacked! :( to redsn0w, Quickseller and mods please give my neutral trust back :( But in the last topic i see tht you talked through pms and gave candy addy which confirms taht you are candy ! That makes no sense in removing neg ! Hope you can approve tht u are not alt of candy ! Title: Re: My trust :( im not alt Candystripes accounts! Post by: ikydesu on February 18, 2015, 08:37:48 AM https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=957806.msg10481284#msg10481284
can Cadystripes make a post something and know about "sunda"!! i think not!! im not Candystripes alt accounts! i got hacked :( im really not :( can you show the thread??? Title: Re: My trust :( im not alt Candystripes accounts! Post by: geforcelover on February 18, 2015, 08:39:46 AM https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=957806.msg10481284#msg10481284 can Cadystripes make a post something and know about "sunda"!! i think not!! im not Candystripes alt accounts! i got hacked :( im really not :( can you show the thread??? Do you heard about google !? You can translate , get info anything you want sonits not a hard thing ! Title: Re: My trust :( im not alt Candystripes accounts! Post by: s1ng on February 18, 2015, 08:45:53 AM I think you need sign address ( very old one ) to prove that you're not Candy
and someone that able to check bitcoin address inter-connection probably will help you. Botany is a good one for this task Title: Re: My trust :( im not alt Candystripes accounts! Post by: ikydesu on February 18, 2015, 08:51:47 AM https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=957806.msg10481284#msg10481284 can Cadystripes make a post something and know about "sunda"!! i think not!! im not Candystripes alt accounts! i got hacked :( im really not :( can you show the thread??? Do you heard about google !? You can translate , get info anything you want sonits not a hard thing ! That's post can't translate with google translate! only indonesian people can do that and understanding that! I think you need sign address ( very old one ) to prove that you're not Candy and someone that able to check bitcoin address inter-connection probably will help you. Botany is a good one for this task Code: -----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE----- my addy is: 1B9Hbrcd9sSMg4acHBttjvYE9kucmNEG1k Title: Re: My trust :( im not alt Candystripes accounts! Post by: qory on February 18, 2015, 08:57:25 AM @OP, I suggest you to change your password.
I challenge candy to speak Indonesian or sundanese here with his main account. Title: Re: My trust :( im not alt Candystripes accounts! Post by: shorena on February 18, 2015, 09:36:47 AM The signature checks out
https://i.imgur.com/IFOktov.png @OP, I suggest you to change your password. I challenge candy to speak Indonesian or sundanese here with his main account. Whether someone can speak a language or not does not matter. How could I prove to you that I dont speak a certain language? Code: Today at 10:01:28 - ikydesu - password changed Looks like the story with Convicted2008 repeats itself. @ikydesu: What was your password before you changed it? Not the exact password, but was it "easy" go guess? Like "Name92". Did you use the same password on other sites as well? Title: Re: My trust :( im not alt Candystripes accounts! Post by: qory on February 18, 2015, 09:45:07 AM @Shorena :
Simple reason, Ikydesu was Indonesian, he speak Indonesian, and I am familiar with his accent,,If candy can speak Indonesian like he did, maybe I will believe he is candy's alt. Edit : it's because I knew ikydesu not only in this forum, except he already sold his account, but he just changed his password, and never change it before. Title: Re: My trust :( im not alt Candystripes accounts! Post by: Welsh on February 18, 2015, 09:50:13 AM Signing a address isn't going to prove that he's not Candystripes. It just proves that he has another address, I've used multiple addresses like many others. Signing isn't going to prove anything in this case. He claims he was hacked but, there's no proof in that.
I'm not sure how ikydesu can prove that he was hacked, except for involving theymos or someone who can verify it. Title: Re: My trust :( im not alt Candystripes accounts! Post by: ikydesu on February 18, 2015, 09:52:07 AM The signature checks out https://i.imgur.com/IFOktov.png @OP, I suggest you to change your password. I challenge candy to speak Indonesian or sundanese here with his main account. Whether someone can speak a language or not does not matter. How could I prove to you that I dont speak a certain language? Code: Today at 10:01:28 - ikydesu - password changed Looks like the story with Convicted2008 repeats itself. @ikydesu: What was your password before you changed it? Not the exact password, but was it "easy" go guess? Like "Name92". Did you use the same password on other sites as well? Thank you for checked shorena. i changed my pass. I used most all same pass :( I must change too ??? @Shorena : Simple reason, Ikydesu was Indonesian, he speak Indonesian, and I am familiar with his accent,,If candy can speak Indonesian like he did, maybe I will believe he is candy's alt. Thanks qory. You right. I used pure indonesian accent and im indonesian. thanks guy for your help :) Title: Re: My trust :( im not alt Candystripes accounts! Post by: ikydesu on February 18, 2015, 09:55:17 AM Signing a address isn't going to prove that he's not Candystripes. It just proves that he has another address, I've used multiple addresses like many others. Signing isn't going to prove anything in this case. He claims he was hacked but, there's no proof in that. I'm not sure how ikydesu can prove that he was hacked, except for involving theymos or someone who can verify it. I have given Candystripes neg trust too. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=325115 Title: Re: My trust :( im not alt Candystripes accounts! Post by: micky123 on February 18, 2015, 09:58:26 AM My 2 cents, the feedback sent by this account to candystripes account is in good english and maybe not like an Indonesian would post, no offence to Indonesians. This is very fishy behavior, leads me to believe this account still belongs to candystripes and he wants to get the -ve feedback cleared before either selling it or using the account to scam. I may be wrong though!
Title: Re: My trust :( im not alt Candystripes accounts! Post by: Welsh on February 18, 2015, 09:59:47 AM I have given Candystripes neg trust too. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=325115 That doesn't prove anything either. Could be trying to clear your account of bad feedback. I'm not saying that you are Candystripes, but the others who have given you negative feedback need something solid to work with to be able to remove it. Title: Re: My trust :( im not alt Candystripes accounts! Post by: Muhammed Zakir on February 18, 2015, 10:08:27 AM Please sign from this address : 1Mzw57DSQFHh2G9PD7CV3b1snHJxAgumNB.
https://i.imgur.com/nRmEPkh.png (https://i.imgur.com/nRmEPkh.png) -MZ Title: Re: My trust :( im not alt Candystripes accounts! Post by: micky123 on February 18, 2015, 10:12:47 AM Please sign from this address : 1Mzw57DSQFHh2G9PD7CV3b1snHJxAgumNB. https://i.imgur.com/nRmEPkh.png (https://i.imgur.com/nRmEPkh.png) -MZ Good find MZ, lets see what happens now. If this guy does not respond after this or does not sign the address, We should all -ve rep him, as he has tried to fool us too! :) Title: Re: My trust :( im not alt Candystripes accounts! Post by: redsn0w on February 18, 2015, 10:47:04 AM Prove you are the real owner and I will remove the negative feedback, I don't want to "be arrogant" but I (or better we) need the proofs. Thanks for the attention, and sorry for the inconvenience.
Title: Re: My trust :( im not alt Candystripes accounts! Post by: Muhammed Zakir on February 18, 2015, 10:48:08 AM Good find MZ, lets see what happens now. If this guy does not respond after this or does not sign the address, We should all -ve rep him, as he has tried to fool us too! :) He is online and he isn't responding, seems something bad to me. as he has tried to fool us too! :) Not me. :P -MZ Title: Re: My trust :( im not alt Candystripes accounts! Post by: shorena on February 18, 2015, 11:21:31 AM @Shorena : Simple reason, Ikydesu was Indonesian, he speak Indonesian, and I am familiar with his accent,,If candy can speak Indonesian like he did, maybe I will believe he is candy's alt. Edit : it's because I knew ikydesu not only in this forum, except he already sold his account, but he just changed his password, and never change it before. Yes, but Candy has no reason to make us believe that ikydesu is innocent. Signing a address isn't going to prove that he's not Candystripes. It just proves that he has another address, I've used multiple addresses like many others. Signing isn't going to prove anything in this case. He claims he was hacked but, there's no proof in that. I'm not sure how ikydesu can prove that he was hacked, except for involving theymos or someone who can verify it. Yes, its no prove that ikydesu is not an alt of candy. It only shows that the person that was in control of the account at a certain point in the past is still in control. Either that or the address was compromised as well, but that would be unlikely. -snip- @ikydesu: What was your password before you changed it? Not the exact password, but was it "easy" go guess? Like "Name92". Did you use the same password on other sites as well? Thank you for checked shorena. i changed my pass. I used most all same pass :( I must change too ??? I would suggest you change all your passwords and use different ones in every place. Maybe use a password manager[1] to help you use strong passwords. Please sign from this address : 1Mzw57DSQFHh2G9PD7CV3b1snHJxAgumNB. -removed the picture- -MZ The older the address the better yes, but I think we witnessed a new behaviour by hackers. Instead of immediately changing the password, which alarms the legit users, they keep the password unchanged and try to engage via a different account. When did you last check your "send PM" folder? I know I dont check it often, only sometimes when I am not sure if the message was send or not. An admin might verify that the account was accessed from a different IP-Address, but thats no proof either as one could easily use Tor or other methods to hide the IP. [1] e.g. keepass 2.x http://keepass.info/ Title: Re: My trust :( im not alt Candystripes accounts! Post by: ikydesu on February 18, 2015, 11:25:21 AM Edit : it's because I knew ikydesu not only in this forum, except he already sold his account, but he just changed his password, and never change it before. Thanks qory you're very helpful. yes i used this username not in this forum only. this is my message history: http://s7.postimg.org/i41cdyw6z/my_message.png Please sign from this address : 1Mzw57DSQFHh2G9PD7CV3b1snHJxAgumNB. https://i.imgur.com/nRmEPkh.png (https://i.imgur.com/nRmEPkh.png) -MZ That's my old blockchain online addy. Code: -- Begin Message -- Title: Re: My trust :( im not alt Candystripes accounts! Post by: Outlander on February 18, 2015, 12:09:55 PM That's my old blockchain online addy. Code: -- Begin Message -- Message successfully verified. Title: Re: My trust :( im not alt Candystripes accounts! Post by: ikydesu on February 18, 2015, 12:18:45 PM That's my old blockchain online addy. Code: -- Begin Message -- Message successfully verified. Thanks for verified :) i hope redsn0w and Quickseller will remove their neg trust from me. I think i must make a symbol on my post, like MZ do. for now i will use this symbol: ~iki ✪ Title: Re: My trust :( im not alt Candystripes accounts! Post by: Quickseller on February 18, 2015, 12:28:08 PM All your signed message proves is that you were not hacked. Candy does not appear to be someone with enough intelligence to be able to hack accounts. Additionally there were no previous allegations of him hacking accounts until recently.
Title: Re: My trust :( im not alt Candystripes accounts! Post by: Quickseller on February 18, 2015, 12:30:57 PM https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=957806.msg10481284#msg10481284 can Cadystripes make a post something and know about "sunda"!! i think not!! im not Candystripes alt accounts! i got hacked :( im really not :( can you show the thread??? Do you heard about google !? You can translate , get info anything you want sonits not a hard thing ! That's post can't translate with google translate! only indonesian people can do that and understanding that! I think you need sign address ( very old one ) to prove that you're not Candy and someone that able to check bitcoin address inter-connection probably will help you. Botany is a good one for this task Code: -----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE----- my addy is: 1B9Hbrcd9sSMg4acHBttjvYE9kucmNEG1k Edit : it's because I knew ikydesu not only in this forum, except he already sold his account, but he just changed his password, and never change it before. Thanks qory you're very helpful. yes i used this username not in this forum only. this is my message history: http://s7.postimg.org/i41cdyw6z/my_message.png Please sign from this address : 1Mzw57DSQFHh2G9PD7CV3b1snHJxAgumNB. https://i.imgur.com/nRmEPkh.png (https://i.imgur.com/nRmEPkh.png) -MZ That's my old blockchain online addy. Code: -- Begin Message -- Title: Re: My trust :( im not alt Candystripes accounts! Post by: shorena on February 18, 2015, 01:05:29 PM All your signed message proves is that you were not hacked. Candy does not appear to be someone with enough intelligence to be able to hack accounts. Additionally there were no previous allegations of him hacking accounts until recently. Under the assumption that those affected by the recent events had weak passwords or at least passwords that have been used - and potentially compromised - elsewhere, I think it makes sense to pass those information to candy in order to "have fun" here. The first was an attempt to get to you. The second was an attempt to frame a stolen account on someone else. I reckon both are into gamlbing so my best guess would be a malicious gambling site that tries to profit off of bad sec habits. This is of course all speculation, but I think its more likely that there is a malicious gambling site out there. It wouldnt be the first and maybe the operator is not even aware of it. For all we know, those passwords might be as old as heartbleed. Title: Re: My trust :( im not alt Candystripes accounts! Post by: Fiesta01 on February 18, 2015, 01:30:04 PM @sho- the problem with that theory is that candy sent me a PM saying to give me a "second" before he would send me a PM at roughly 27 seconds past the hour and did not send the PM from the other account until roughly 10 minutes past the hour.
This is evidence that it is more likely that candy contacted the OP or the "main" account of the OP in order for them to confirm ownership of the account. I would say that it is most likely that candy was working with the owner of both the OP and of convicted2008 to try to fake their account being hacked. Title: Re: My trust :( im not alt Candystripes accounts! Post by: ikydesu on February 18, 2015, 01:54:20 PM To: Quickseller, shorena, Fiesta01
Im not working with Candy. And im still ikydesu. I changed my pass for more security, im still ikydesu! i dont know why my account have neg trust, when i wake up in late morning and check this forum, and then check on my profile im shocked i have neg trust and i can't find post or PM or something when i do something affected to my trust :'( ~iki ✪ Title: Re: My trust :( im not alt Candystripes accounts! Post by: Quickseller on February 18, 2015, 01:57:16 PM To: Quickseller, shorena, Fiesta01 How often does someone with zero trust check their trust score?Im not working with Candy. And im still ikydesu. I changed my pass for more security, im still ikydesu! i dont know why my account have neg trust, when i wake up in late morning and check this forum, and then check on my profile im shocked i have neg trust and i can't find post or PM or something when i do something affected to my trust :'( ~iki ✪ Title: Re: My trust :( im not alt Candystripes accounts! Post by: dsyahputera on February 18, 2015, 02:01:46 PM To: Quickseller, shorena, Fiesta01 How often does someone with zero trust check their trust score?Im not working with Candy. And im still ikydesu. I changed my pass for more security, im still ikydesu! i dont know why my account have neg trust, when i wake up in late morning and check this forum, and then check on my profile im shocked i have neg trust and i can't find post or PM or something when i do something affected to my trust :'( ~iki ✪ Title: Re: My trust :( im not alt Candystripes accounts! Post by: Muhammed Zakir on February 18, 2015, 02:02:08 PM To: Quickseller, shorena, Fiesta01 Im not working with Candy. And im still ikydesu. I changed my pass for more security, im still ikydesu! i dont know why my account have neg trust, when i wake up in late morning and check this forum, and then check on my profile im shocked i have neg trust and i can't find post or PM or something when i do something affected to my trust :'( ~iki ✪ It's not your post(s), it is because of your PM(s) : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=958081.0. -MZ Title: Re: My trust :( im not alt Candystripes accounts! Post by: Muhammed Zakir on February 18, 2015, 02:04:53 PM How often does someone with zero trust check their trust score? For me, that's often, when I want to see my post count and my activity count.You can check both by looking at the left side of your posts, post counts aren't shown by default, you will have to go to Forum Profile Information[1] and check the 2nd last check-box. [1] https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=profile;sa=forumProfile -MZ Title: Re: My trust :( im not alt Candystripes accounts! Post by: ranochigo on February 18, 2015, 02:10:15 PM Please sign from this address : 1Mzw57DSQFHh2G9PD7CV3b1snHJxAgumNB. -removed the picture- -MZ The older the address the better yes, but I think we witnessed a new behaviour by hackers. Instead of immediately changing the password, which alarms the legit users, they keep the password unchanged and try to engage via a different account. When did you last check your "send PM" folder? I know I dont check it often, only sometimes when I am not sure if the message was send or not. An admin might verify that the account was accessed from a different IP-Address, but thats no proof either as one could easily use Tor or other methods to hide the IP. [1] e.g. keepass 2.x http://keepass.info/ Title: Re: My trust :( im not alt Candystripes accounts! Post by: ikydesu on February 18, 2015, 02:24:34 PM To: Quickseller, shorena, Fiesta01 How often does someone with zero trust check their trust score?Im not working with Candy. And im still ikydesu. I changed my pass for more security, im still ikydesu! i dont know why my account have neg trust, when i wake up in late morning and check this forum, and then check on my profile im shocked i have neg trust and i can't find post or PM or something when i do something affected to my trust :'( ~iki ✪ Check for see notification on post which i followed. How often does someone with zero trust check their trust score? For me, that's often, when I want to see my post count and my activity count.You can check both by looking at the left side of your posts, post counts aren't shown by default, you will have to go to Forum Profile Information[1] and check the 2nd last check-box. [1] https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=profile;sa=forumProfile -MZ Read my post: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=959747.msg10499764#msg10499764 Please sign from this address : 1Mzw57DSQFHh2G9PD7CV3b1snHJxAgumNB. -removed the picture- -MZ The older the address the better yes, but I think we witnessed a new behaviour by hackers. Instead of immediately changing the password, which alarms the legit users, they keep the password unchanged and try to engage via a different account. When did you last check your "send PM" folder? I know I dont check it often, only sometimes when I am not sure if the message was send or not. An admin might verify that the account was accessed from a different IP-Address, but thats no proof either as one could easily use Tor or other methods to hide the IP. [1] e.g. keepass 2.x http://keepass.info/ My IP always changes often, because provider in my country is like that, i used lokal provider, im not use VPN, SSH or ect. ~iki ✪ Title: Re: My trust :( im not alt Candystripes accounts! Post by: Muhammed Zakir on February 18, 2015, 02:40:37 PM Read my post: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=959747.msg10499764#msg10499764 ~iki ✪ I didn't understood why you told this here. About that : Try not to use line, use something that isn't catchy to the eye, for eg: ~iki. Signature may not always help you in recovering your account or claiming 'you are' 'you are'. -MZ Title: Re: My trust :( im not alt Candystripes accounts! Post by: PistolPete on February 18, 2015, 02:44:25 PM The older the address the better yes, but I think we witnessed a new behaviour by hackers. Instead of immediately changing the password, which alarms the legit users, they keep the password unchanged and try to engage via a different account. When did you last check your "send PM" folder? I know I dont check it often, only sometimes when I am not sure if the message was send or not. This is concerning. Maybe a security option can be enabled which warns users if a different IP has been used. This is a standard safety option used by email providers. Title: Re: My trust :( im not alt Candystripes accounts! Post by: ikydesu on February 18, 2015, 02:53:06 PM Read my post: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=959747.msg10499764#msg10499764 ~iki ✪ I didn't understood why you told this here. About that : Try not to use line, use something that isn't catchy to the eye, for eg: ~iki. Signature may not always help you in recovering your account or claiming 'you are' 'you are'. -MZ Sorry im wrong quote your post. Oke, how about something like this?: ~iki⋅ Title: Re: My trust :( im not alt Candystripes accounts! Post by: redsn0w on February 18, 2015, 03:00:26 PM I want to give him the benefit of doubt, so I've changed the negative feedback in one neutral . Quickseller is free to continue his investigation , good luck.
Title: Re: My trust :( im not alt Candystripes accounts! Post by: Muhammed Zakir on February 18, 2015, 03:03:16 PM Sorry im wrong quote your post. Oke, how about something like this?: ~iki⋅ I thought you would understand but you didn't: for eg: [ size=1pt]~iki[/size]. -MZ Title: Re: My trust :( im not alt Candystripes accounts! Post by: ikydesu on February 18, 2015, 03:11:38 PM For another proof: https://letstalkbitcoin.com/forum/post/dapat-bitcoin-dari-android-dan-langsung-gratis-25000-satoshi#post-116362
ikidesu is my account, look at my post, most all i post on indonesian board/section. Sorry im wrong quote your post. Oke, how about something like this?: ~iki⋅ I thought you would understand but you didn't: -snip- -MZ Sorry, i think that's symbol. I want to give him the benefit of doubt, so I've changed the negative feedback in one neutral . Quickseller is free to continue his investigation , good luck. Thanks redsn0w :) EDITED: Note: i never sell my account, i never make my account as collateral! ~iki Title: Re: My trust :( im not alt Candystripes accounts! Post by: Muhammed Zakir on February 18, 2015, 03:31:57 PM Note: i will never sell my account, i will never make my account as collateral! ~iki Why did you post about it now? We can't confirm you won't do. -MZ Title: Re: My trust :( im not alt Candystripes accounts! Post by: ikydesu on February 18, 2015, 03:40:14 PM Note: i will never sell my account, i will never make my account as collateral! ~iki Why did you post about it now? We can't confirm you won't do. -MZ I means for the future, if this happens again to me, i never sell my account, never make my account as collateral. actually my english so bad, sorry. ~iki Title: Re: My trust :( im not alt Candystripes accounts! Post by: dsyahputera on February 19, 2015, 12:30:41 AM ikydesu
https://i.imgur.com/aX4Iq9M.png Candystripes https://i.imgur.com/2ljWPO0.png Note: I'm using GMT+8 on these picture. Title: Re: My trust :( im not alt Candystripes accounts! Post by: GrandmaJean on February 19, 2015, 12:47:27 AM I have a question: why are neither of the OP's messages signed?
The lack of a date on the messages makes it possible to have gotten these messages a long time ago from the true owner of the account. Look even I can prove that I own your account: Code: -----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE----- Title: Re: My trust :( im not alt Candystripes accounts! Post by: ikydesu on February 19, 2015, 05:53:35 AM I have a question: why are neither of the OP's messages signed? The lack of a date on the messages makes it possible to have gotten these messages a long time ago from the true owner of the account. Look even I can prove that I own your account: Code: -----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE----- Code:
my screenshot: http://s22.postimg.org/kriqx0vap/my_sig_message.png ~iki Title: Re: My trust :( im not alt Candystripes accounts! Post by: krasaan02 on February 19, 2015, 11:06:33 AM Sorry, I just want to ask.
How to verify it's fake or real PM ? Hey Buddy, it's me, Candy ! I just edit the author and UID the sender, Quickseller never send a single message to me. Title: Re: My trust :( im not alt Candystripes accounts! Post by: Muhammed Zakir on February 19, 2015, 11:37:20 AM Sorry, I just want to ask. How to verify it's fake or real PM ? Hey Buddy, it's me, Candy ! I just edit the author and UID the sender, Quickseller never send a single message to me. If the PM was come to you, you can report that PM, so 'the person you report to' or all Global Moderators and Admins can see the PM. Admins can see them without reporting too. If it is in other's inbox, you will have to ask an Admin to verify or tell that person to report the PM to a Global Moderator or Admin(person who is online currently) and tell him/her to tell whether the verification was positive or not to you or in that specific thread. -MZ Title: Re: My trust :( im not alt Candystripes accounts! Post by: dsyahputera on February 19, 2015, 11:40:07 AM Sorry, I just want to ask. How to verify it's fake or real PM ? Hey Buddy, it's me, Candy ! I just edit the author and UID the sender, Quickseller never send a single message to me. If the PM was come to you, you can report that PM, so 'the person you report to' or all Global Moderators and Admins can see the PM. Admins can see them without reporting too. If it is in other's inbox, you will have to ask an Admin to verify or tell that person to report the PM to a Global Moderator or Admin(person who is online currently) and tell him/her to tell whether the verification was positive or not to you or in that specific thread. -MZ No no, he ask about how to verify a quote of PM that probably fake. Title: Re: My trust :( im not alt Candystripes accounts! Post by: shorena on February 19, 2015, 11:41:41 AM -snip- No no, he ask about how to verify a quote of PM that probably fake. Yes and the answer is: only admins/global mods/other staff you report PMs to can verify that the quote is correct and was not manipulated. Title: Re: My trust :( im not alt Candystripes accounts! Post by: krasaan02 on February 19, 2015, 11:50:29 AM Can we ask Fiesta01 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=447554) to make a screen shot of his pm before we ask admin to verify his message ?
Title: Re: My trust :( im not alt Candystripes accounts! Post by: Quickseller on February 19, 2015, 12:27:08 PM Can we ask Fiesta01 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=447554) to make a screen shot of his pm before we ask admin to verify his message ? Fiesta01 is me, the PM is real. Fiesta01 was created to find a scammer account. Candy asked ikydesu to PM that account so "he" would be willing to send him funds to him directly to "buy" it. ikydesu was helping Candy scam by making it look like he was in control of something he was claiming to own when in reality this was not true Title: Re: My trust :( im not alt Candystripes accounts! Post by: krasaan02 on February 19, 2015, 12:38:01 PM Can we ask Fiesta01 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=447554) to make a screen shot of his pm before we ask admin to verify his message ? Fiesta01 is me, the PM is real. Fiesta01 was created to find a scammer account. Candy asked ikydesu to PM that account so "he" would be willing to send him funds to him directly to "buy" it. ikydesu was helping Candy scam by making it look like he was in control of something he was claiming to own when in reality this was not true can you please make a screen shot from Fiesta account ?, or maybe we need a trusted member to verify that you are controling that account. Title: Re: My trust :( im not alt Candystripes accounts! Post by: Fiesta01 on February 19, 2015, 12:44:22 PM Can we ask Fiesta01 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=447554) to make a screen shot of his pm before we ask admin to verify his message ? Fiesta01 is me, the PM is real. Fiesta01 was created to find a scammer account. Candy asked ikydesu to PM that account so "he" would be willing to send him funds to him directly to "buy" it. ikydesu was helping Candy scam by making it look like he was in control of something he was claiming to own when in reality this was not true can you please make a screen shot from Fiesta account ?, or maybe we need a trusted member to verify that you are controling that account. Code: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Title: Re: My trust :( im not alt Candystripes accounts! Post by: redsn0w on February 19, 2015, 12:49:11 PM If someone is helping a scammer he is itself a scammer, this is obvious or am I wrong? I would like to read a reply from ikydesu, thanks.
Title: Re: My trust :( im not alt Candystripes accounts! Post by: dsyahputera on February 19, 2015, 12:54:22 PM Um, I'm sure ikydesu is not Candy, but I don't sure if ikydesu helping Candy, probably that's right :-\
Title: Re: My trust :( im not alt Candystripes accounts! Post by: shorena on February 19, 2015, 01:06:15 PM -snip- You don't need to include the date or time in a PGP message, they are already timestamped. Also the message is verified: Code: gpg: Signature made Thu 19 Feb 2015 12:41:24 GMT Yep Code: gpg: Signature made Thu 19 Feb 2015 13:41:24 CET using RSA key ID F0BEB516 but this does not prove that the PM is legit, only that quickseller is in control of the account. Anyway, regarding the topic at hand. IMHO the "is helping candy" theory is less likely than the "bad sec habits fucked me". I might very well be wrong though. The question is: what are the consequences for the account? Will it be neg bombed to -1000 trust und thus basically useless or will we give ikydesu the benefit of the doubt? Both options have their ups and downs. I used to play on a MC Server for a while that had a very nice message repeating in chat. The wording might be off, this is from memory. Quote You are responsible for your account and its security and as a consequence responsible for all activities that occur under your account. Title: Re: My trust :( im not alt Candystripes accounts! Post by: Quickseller on February 19, 2015, 01:11:34 PM Can we ask Fiesta01 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=447554) to make a screen shot of his pm before we ask admin to verify his message ? Fiesta01 is me, the PM is real. Fiesta01 was created to find a scammer account. Candy asked ikydesu to PM that account so "he" would be willing to send him funds to him directly to "buy" it. ikydesu was helping Candy scam by making it look like he was in control of something he was claiming to own when in reality this was not true can you please make a screen shot from Fiesta account ?, or maybe we need a trusted member to verify that you are controling that account. Code: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- You don't need to include the date or time in a PGP message, they are already timestamped. Also the message is verified: Code: gpg: Signature made Thu 19 Feb 2015 12:41:24 GMT Title: Re: My trust :( im not alt Candystripes accounts! Post by: Quickseller on February 19, 2015, 01:15:30 PM -snip- You don't need to include the date or time in a PGP message, they are already timestamped. Also the message is verified: Code: gpg: Signature made Thu 19 Feb 2015 12:41:24 GMT Yep Code: gpg: Signature made Thu 19 Feb 2015 13:41:24 CET using RSA key ID F0BEB516 but this does not prove that the PM is legit, only that quickseller is in control of the account. Anyway, regarding the topic at hand. IMHO the "is helping candy" theory is less likely than the "bad sec habits fucked me". I might very well be wrong though. The question is: what are the consequences for the account? Will it be neg bombed to -1000 trust und thus basically useless or will we give ikydesu the benefit of the doubt? Both options have their ups and downs. I used to play on a MC Server for a while that had a very nice message repeating in chat. The wording might be off, this is from memory. Quote You are responsible for your account and its security and as a consequence responsible for all activities that occur under your account. My helping candy "theory" is not a theory. I have very good reason to know this to be the case. The following is speculation however I think he probably was talking with him on some gambling chat site and offered him a small tip if he were to send a "random" private message. Title: Re: My trust :( im not alt Candystripes accounts! Post by: shorena on February 19, 2015, 01:19:18 PM -snip- if you do not trust me then I will report the messages for verification by a global mod/admin. No, this was just a point on the side in order to stop the arguments about the legitimacy of the PM. If anyone has doubts Im sure BadBear or a global mod would verify the PM. My helping candy "theory" is not a theory. I have very good reason to know this to be the case. The following is speculation however I think he probably was talking with him on some gambling chat site and offered him a small tip if he were to send a "random" private message. Do you have anything provable that at least hints in the direction? Title: Re: My trust :( im not alt Candystripes accounts! Post by: Quickseller on February 19, 2015, 01:20:46 PM I will send you a PM about my "theory"
I already reported the two messages so hopefully someone will confirm them soon. Title: Re: My trust :( im not alt Candystripes accounts! Post by: Quickseller on February 19, 2015, 01:26:33 PM aren't they time stamped based on the time of my computer though? If I were to change the date/time on my computer then it would show as being signed at a different time. Plus some may not be savvy enough to check the time of the signature. It is based on the time on your computer, but most PGP clients will change the timezone to UTC to prevent your timezone from being disclosed. Yep this can be faked, but so can the time you put in the message (you could be lying). You can however configure your PGP client to use a trusted timestamp server, though there aren't many of these as this functionality is really old and not used much. This will prove that the message was signed on or after the time specified, it wouldn't be possible for the message to be signed before the time specified unless the timestamp server was acting malicious. Most (all) PGP clients will display the date and time the message was signed and you are supposed to check it. Title: Re: My trust :( im not alt Candystripes accounts! Post by: Quickseller on February 19, 2015, 01:57:55 PM I assume that using a time stamp authority is done by the person signing the message, and that in order to use one then the computer that holds the private key must be connected to the Internet. There are a couple of different ways to do it, but what you describe is one way. Yes you're right holding a private key online is generally a bad idea, but thats what most "authorities" such as certificate authorities that sign SSL keys do, and even SSL keys themselves must be kept online. Another way is for the timestamp authority to publish random numbers at a regular interval and have the client include the latest random number in the metadata. It would be cool to implement something that used a blockchain as a timestamp authority. Title: Re: My trust :( im not alt Candystripes accounts! Post by: ranochigo on February 19, 2015, 02:44:31 PM Sorry, I just want to ask. How to verify it's fake or real PM ? Hey Buddy, it's me, Candy ! I just edit the author and UID the sender, Quickseller never send a single message to me. If the PM was come to you, you can report that PM, so 'the person you report to' or all Global Moderators and Admins can see the PM. Admins can see them without reporting too. If it is in other's inbox, you will have to ask an Admin to verify or tell that person to report the PM to a Global Moderator or Admin(person who is online currently) and tell him/her to tell whether the verification was positive or not to you or in that specific thread. -MZ Title: Re: My trust :( im not alt Candystripes accounts! Post by: Muhammed Zakir on February 19, 2015, 02:56:49 PM You can choose who to report the PM to by using the dropdown box. Admins can see PMs but they will not specifically do it unless you request it. I have said that but I think it wasn't understandable easily. Thanks for telling! This might avoid future spams about the post. If the PM was come to you, you can report that PM, so 'the person you report to' or all Global Moderators and Admins can see the PM. Admins can see them without reporting too. -MZ Title: Re: My trust :( im not alt Candystripes accounts! Post by: Mist on February 20, 2015, 04:18:55 AM I think the guy ran out, you uncovered something important and he ditched.Good job quickseller and red snow on another Candy bust :D
Title: Re: My trust :( im not alt Candystripes accounts! Post by: dsyahputera on February 20, 2015, 02:19:16 PM I trying to
To all: sorry gan" ane ga ol kemaren, ada urusan di RL. 1. Ane ga pernah PM sama Candystripes, fiesta, quickseller. 2. Ane gatau kenapa trust ane bisa neg dan di sangka scammer. 3. Waktu ane nyadar kena hack, ga ada bekasnya, dari post, PM inbox ataupun outbox. 4. Ane ga pengen dan ga pernah niat ataupun bilang kalau mau jual akun, kalau ga salah ane pernah post di thread signature campaign kalau ntar udah Sr.member ane bakal pindah sig campaign. 5. Kalo menurut ane pas akun ane di hack, dan dpt neg trust si Candy lngsung ngehapus PM/inbox/post skenarionya. >:( ~iki Sorry everyone, I can't online yesterday, due to a problem on my real life. 1. I never send any PM to Candystripes, fiesta, or Quickseller. 2. I don't know why I got the negative trust, I don't know why I'm expected as a scammer. 3. When I know my account was hacked, I don't see any trace, even it is a post, or PM on inbox/outbox. 4. I never wanted to sell my account. 5. I think, the hacker (Candy) quickly delete the PM/inbox/posts when he know my account got negative trust. Title: Re: My trust :( im not alt Candystripes accounts! Post by: redsn0w on February 20, 2015, 02:22:50 PM To all: sorry gan" ane ga ol kemaren, ada urusan di RL. 1. Ane ga pernah PM sama Candystripes, fiesta, quickseller. 2. Ane gatau kenapa trust ane bisa neg dan di sangka scammer. 3. Waktu ane nyadar kena hack, ga ada bekasnya, dari post, PM inbox ataupun outbox. 4. Ane ga pengen dan ga pernah niat ataupun bilang kalau mau jual akun, kalau ga salah ane pernah post di thread signature campaign kalau ntar udah Sr.member ane bakal pindah sig campaign. 5. Kalo menurut ane pas akun ane di hack, dan dpt neg trust si Candy lngsung ngehapus PM/inbox/post skenarionya. >:( ~iki Can someone translate his post? I don't know the indonesian language, thanks for the attention. Title: Re: My trust :( im not alt Candystripes accounts! Post by: ikydesu on February 20, 2015, 02:42:57 PM I trying to To all: sorry gan" ane ga ol kemaren, ada urusan di RL. 1. Ane ga pernah PM sama Candystripes, fiesta, quickseller. 2. Ane gatau kenapa trust ane bisa neg dan di sangka scammer. 3. Waktu ane nyadar kena hack, ga ada bekasnya, dari post, PM inbox ataupun outbox. 4. Ane ga pengen dan ga pernah niat ataupun bilang kalau mau jual akun, kalau ga salah ane pernah post di thread signature campaign kalau ntar udah Sr.member ane bakal pindah sig campaign. 5. Kalo menurut ane pas akun ane di hack, dan dpt neg trust si Candy lngsung ngehapus PM/inbox/post skenarionya. >:( ~iki Sorry everyone, I can't online yesterday. 1. I never send any PM to Candystripes, fiesta, or Quickseller. 2. I don't know why I got the negative trust, I don't know why I'm expected as a scammer. 3. When I know my account was hacked, I don't see any trace, even it is a post, or PM on inbox/outbox. 4. I never wanted to sell my account. 5. I think, the hacker (Candy) quickly delete the PM/inbox/posts when he know my account got negative trust. Thanks bro dsyahputera RL = means Real Life. *sorry guys if low respon, because my conection is so bad. ~iki Title: Re: My trust :( im not alt Candystripes accounts! Post by: Muhammed Zakir on February 20, 2015, 03:27:49 PM To all: sorry gan" ane ga ol kemaren, ada urusan di RL. 1. Ane ga pernah PM sama Candystripes, fiesta, quickseller. 2. Ane gatau kenapa trust ane bisa neg dan di sangka scammer. 3. Waktu ane nyadar kena hack, ga ada bekasnya, dari post, PM inbox ataupun outbox. 4. Ane ga pengen dan ga pernah niat ataupun bilang kalau mau jual akun, kalau ga salah ane pernah post di thread signature campaign kalau ntar udah Sr.member ane bakal pindah sig campaign. 5. Kalo menurut ane pas akun ane di hack, dan dpt neg trust si Candy lngsung ngehapus PM/inbox/post skenarionya. >:( ~iki Can someone translate his post? I don't know the indonesian language, thanks for the attention. I don't know Indonesian either but I used a few translators and verified what dsyahputera told except 4[su]th[/sup] line, no mention about signature campaign which you can see without translating in OP. 4. Ane ga pengen dan ga pernah niat ataupun bilang kalau mau jual akun, kalau ga salah ane pernah post di thread signature campaign kalau ntar udah Sr.member ane bakal pindah sig campaign. 4. I never wanted to sell my account.~iki -MZ Title: Re: My trust :( im not alt Candystripes accounts! Post by: dsyahputera on February 20, 2015, 03:42:03 PM I don't know Indonesian either but I used a few translators and verified what dsyahputera told except 4[su]th[/sup] line, no mention about signature campaign which you can see without translating in OP. 4. I never wanted to sell my account. I say/post about that on a signature campaign thread[1] that explain if I become Sr. Member, I will enroll to other signature campaign[2].4. Ane ga pengen dan ga pernah niat ataupun bilang kalau mau jual akun, kalau ga salah ane pernah post di thread signature campaign kalau ntar udah Sr.member ane bakal pindah sig campaign. 4. I never wanted to sell my account.~iki -MZ [1] He post about that (never wanted to sell his account) on a signature campaign thread. [2] He say if he become Sr. Member, he will enroll to other signature campaign. Explain: In the past, he was discussing about if he become Sr. Member, he will enroll to other signature campaign. The post about he never wanted to sell his account is a part of that discussion. He was discussed it on a signature campaign thread. |
