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http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/10/121002150031.htm


bleh, it's still "too expensive" to mass produce.  Come on science!  Still though, "Brown and Kashefi fed the bacteria unprecedented amounts of gold chloride, mimicking the process they believe happens in nature. In about a week, the bacteria transformed the toxins and produced a gold nugget."  Maybe if the process could be refined and mass produced in an efficient way maybe it could be cost effective.  They say it's cost prohibitive to recreate the "experiment" but the goal shouldn't be to reproduce some experiment but to end exploitation of various resources by making gold production more attainable.  The article comment about greed and economics is ridiculous... tell us something we don't already know.

If you could do it, would you publish it, or exploit to death the sucker who will buy it? haha I know what I would do.

What is these, a joke? If you could make gold I think you would keep it pretty hush-hush.

There will be a time when science can make gold, but science can't make bitcoins :)

They're also experimenting with making bacteria that can make ethanol which would fix a lot of the problems of having a truly independent power source, also, any scientist who actually knows shit pretty much only wants recognition for what they do so naturally they'd make it as public as possible so no one could steal their work.

The article merely describes bacteria that can purify gold to almost 100% purity. It doesnt describe about making gold out of thin air...

Still it is something great and with big potential as every other biotech discovery.

To create gold you need to fuse or divide atoms both need nuclear reactions. The process of using bacteria cannot create gold but only to purify it.

My thoughts exactly.
Another point for Bitcoin vs gold.
Bitcoin is better than e-gold!!!

ure wrong, anything that can be created in nature can be lab recreated, im not saying there is some gold version of Walter White, but even tho its not doable now, it surely will be in the future.
And when it comes to gold investments, the only this people think is investing in the future, and with this you just have another proof that progress is being made, so once again; its only a matter of time until they become able to produce it in lab.

cheers

They obviously don't need it to be much success, they just need enough gold nuggets laid out by these bacteria for themselves.

I thought gold was created from the explosion of a supernova.

Well, I imagine they'd have a pricetag over their heads if they went too far with it.  I can imagine a lot of people are profiting on gold exploits these days and they wouldn't want to lose that.

Your post is stupid and you should be ashamed about that.

It is being done in the lab already.  Not in the future. And not in an economically viable way. Nuclear reactors is a lab too you know... But you dont even need them...

Bacteria cant create and wont create gold no matter what. The will maybe purify gold more efficient and therefore make extraction more economically viable.

Oh, and not everything can be lab created. Sorry. You are just speculating about the future.

Ain't sure about thin air, but in the world ocean there are about 27 million (sic) metric tonnes of gold, which makes approximately 0.02 mg of gold per tonne of sea water. Thus you could at least in theory make (well, extract) gold from water.

I don't want to be a party popper but this isn't about "making gold". They didn't turned lead to gold or something like that. Actually they turned gold to gold for a lot of money :).
I don't know exactly which kind of gold chloride they are referencing but both two are quite easy to turn back to elemental gold by heating it...  ::)

Is the gold you extract from shit somehow different from the gold you make from lead? Aes non olet.

Title is so correct, but then the article not so.

That depends on the on the price.

If they found a way to make gold then it would just devalue it. Gold is only expensive because of its rarity.


Gold is already made by science.

On the costs of production, right? So it doesn't actually matter if you extract gold from something (since there is enough gold as gold in nature) or convert something into gold, provided you gain enough profits to cover your expenses. Gold will be gold in any case.

Gold is gold indeed. But why tinkering with bacteria when you can achive the same results by using your hob in the kitchen for half the price :)?

This is a good question indeed. But why think so narrowly? If you could "create" bacteria that lay out gold nuggets extracting gold from something that you could easily extract yourself at half the price, why not make the next step and breed a new strain that would bring you gold from sea water, for example?

As a first step it's nice, indeed. I was thinking on such life form, but bacterias used to spread across wast areas, so harvesting the extracted gold would be difficult. If that bacteria could live in symbiotic relationship with some sort of crab and would store the extracted gold in the crab's exoskeleton, then we just need to build a homing instint for moulting into the crab, and voila we could have a yearly gold harvest in a certain river (and an issue with the miner's workers union).

Asteroid mining would be cool too. It would certainly slow down the destruction of our planet.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2012-04-24/google-chiefs-back-startup-mining-asteroids-for-metals

Slow it down, maybe. But the amount of earth's resources required to launch and operate spacecraft takes a terrible toll on our environment!

I don't think they will ever be able to produce too much to bring the prices down. Or they are keeping it a secret and producing all the gold and already selling it.

You might have noticed that gold prices have already fallen down and keep low for nearly two years by now. Some bacteria obviously have an agenda.

Well that would actually mine more rare rocks not found on earth. I wonder what plans will google unveil.

Science that takes toll on our environment can be justified for the greather good, and can help restore environment to healthier levels.
Anyways, i dont believe that asteroid mining would slow down anything back here on earth, they would just multiply the greed by two..

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No one "made" gold here, they refined it from an ore.  The only difference being they used bacteria to refine it rather than an industrial process.  The only way to make gold is with a supernova.

That's why asteroid-based mining + 3-D printing is the way to go.
http://gizmodo.com/how-asteroid-mining-could-pay-for-our-first-space-colon-1685429089
http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--cuRXcpQx--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/jhm27etrwqj7fgpuxvuj.jpg

No real updates on this???

Looks awesome.

All I have seen that had with science to do was getting gold from PC parts that were obsolete.

Earth formed from the same "space rocks" :)

Article is from 2012. So apparently doesn't look like it has been tested much as of now.

Actually I believe it's possible to synthesize gold using a particle accelerator. It's economically impractical since it costs millions to produce just a few grams, and the end result is also usually highly radioactive which would make it unsuitable for pretty much any application where gold is currently used.

Nope just hackers.  ;D