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Title: AMD or NVIDIA?
Post by: chris190 on February 23, 2015, 10:36:32 PM
My curiosity ;)

Until some time ago mining with cards AMD compared to NVIDIA was very convenient especially in speed. But now, in February 2015, with the graphic evolution, amd is still the best and most affordable or not, compared to NVIDIA?



Title: Re: AMD or NVIDIA?
Post by: NoahWL1 on February 24, 2015, 01:12:04 AM
Yes, AMDs are still better than nVidia cards.  I'm not completely sure why, but I think it has something in part to do with the amount of shader cores each card has?  But like others say, GPU mining is almost completely dead.  Some alt coins that are meant for GPUs/CPUs are out there, but again, as others have said, altcoins are not incredibly reliable.  If you're strategic enough, though, there is money to be made with altcoins.


Title: Re: AMD or NVIDIA?
Post by: Gladimor on February 24, 2015, 03:01:45 AM
AMD: Raw power
Nvidia: Power efficiency


Title: Re: AMD or NVIDIA?
Post by: moko666 on February 24, 2015, 04:09:27 AM
for mining purpose AMD is still better then Nvidia
for gaming you can use latest Nvidia cards


Title: Re: AMD or NVIDIA?
Post by: TrianglePythagoras on February 24, 2015, 04:11:02 AM
With gaming I find AMD give you the best colour. While nVidia gets the best details


Title: Re: AMD or NVIDIA?
Post by: AllTheBitz on February 24, 2015, 08:24:40 AM
My curiosity ;)

Until some time ago mining with cards AMD compared to NVIDIA was very convenient especially in speed. But now, in February 2015, with the graphic evolution, amd is still the best and most affordable or not, compared to NVIDIA?



AMD is always better than NVIDIA ,I have a 2.5 GH Nvidia 9500 GT and my mining speed is 4 kh/s for bitcoin .
And sometime the monitor turn off  ???. Nvidia are so weak compared to AMD .


Title: Re: AMD or NVIDIA?
Post by: kamale on February 24, 2015, 08:27:12 AM
My curiosity ;)

Until some time ago mining with cards AMD compared to NVIDIA was very convenient especially in speed. But now, in February 2015, with the graphic evolution, amd is still the best and most affordable or not, compared to NVIDIA?



AMD is always better than NVIDIA ,I have a 2.5 GH Nvidia 9500 GT and my mining speed is 4 kh/s for bitcoin .
And sometime the monitor turn off  ???. Nvidia are so weak compared to AMD .
Not all , Nvidia has better, more frequent driver updates, better performance, PhysX, doesn't screw up when I use HDMI with it, and doesn't do that crap native resize failure that AMD does (if I want to play Age of Empires at 1024 * 768, Nvidia scales properly; AMD flails and then screws up).

I regret switching to AMD.

AMD has crappy drivers and Tressfx. It's not just on the CPU front; apparently, because I have an AMD CPU, I can't play one of the Darksiders II DLCs.


Title: Re: AMD or NVIDIA?
Post by: xingming on February 24, 2015, 08:34:26 AM
My curiosity ;)

Until some time ago mining with cards AMD compared to NVIDIA was very convenient especially in speed. But now, in February 2015, with the graphic evolution, amd is still the best and most affordable or not, compared to NVIDIA?



If you talk about bitcoin , you talk about energy consumption .
NVIDIA obviously wins the power consumption battle no matter which card is used, though. AMD is working well
but can't make a point in bitcoin mining vs NVIDIA  ;) .


Title: Re: AMD or NVIDIA?
Post by: chris190 on February 24, 2015, 11:18:33 PM
Thank guys! ;)


Title: Re: AMD or NVIDIA?
Post by: Bananana on February 25, 2015, 03:44:49 AM
My curiosity ;)

Until some time ago mining with cards AMD compared to NVIDIA was very convenient especially in speed. But now, in February 2015, with the graphic evolution, amd is still the best and most affordable or not, compared to NVIDIA?



Nvidia is better, more energy efficiency, but none is profitable now. So not buying any graphic card is the best choice.


Title: Re: AMD or NVIDIA?
Post by: djm34 on February 25, 2015, 01:02:02 PM
Mining with cards has been obsolete for a while, and for shit altcoins gpu only still amd. Don't mine with cards, don't get fucked by altcoins.
here we go again  ;D
The real question is: Are you watching the "mining/altcoins" thread just to answer it isn't profitable and altcoin are shits ?


Title: Re: AMD or NVIDIA?
Post by: MarkMJ on February 26, 2015, 08:51:26 AM
Hello dear,

AMD will be the best for mining altcoins,so AMD compared to NVIDIA? AMD.


Title: Re: AMD or NVIDIA?
Post by: Amph on February 26, 2015, 10:49:10 AM
i would say nvidia, unless you have some crazy private amd miner


Title: Re: AMD or NVIDIA?
Post by: Shadow_Runner on February 26, 2015, 04:53:00 PM
AMD has bigger hashrate with some algos, but sometimes nVidia miner comes first for new algo, which means low diff.


Title: Re: AMD or NVIDIA?
Post by: Bananana on March 01, 2015, 02:15:54 AM
I like to prefer AMD because AMD is best for minig like amd r9... :)

I like AMD.. :)

Some people say AMD generate more heat so its better cause you used it for winter.


Title: Re: AMD or NVIDIA?
Post by: ingiltere on March 02, 2015, 10:08:16 PM
I have AMD but I checked litecoin mining profitability table, my card is old for mining. I think I need a new card for altcoin mining.


Title: Re: AMD or NVIDIA?
Post by: cursednova on March 02, 2015, 10:21:41 PM
i have always sided with AMD. I like the amd over drive program when i play games they have smart profiles.

For mining well i started later so i went straight to asic miners. Good or bad i like them :p


Title: Re: AMD or NVIDIA?
Post by: gawful on March 03, 2015, 04:25:40 PM
AMD: Raw power
Nvidia: Power efficiency

I need some power efficiency these days, the cost of hydro power keeps going up and $ return going down.


Title: Re: AMD or NVIDIA?
Post by: Lorenzo on March 05, 2015, 01:29:29 PM
I was going to make my own thread about this but I might as well ask it here. Do AMD and Nvidia cards perform differently depending on the algorithm? I know back when Bitcoin was mined using GPUs, an AMD part would perform much better than the equivalent Nvidia part when mining SHA-256. But nowadays I see people mining altcoins using Nvidia cards too.

e.g.

Quote from: Extremetech.com
If you typically follow GPU performance as it related to gaming but have become curious about Bitcoin mining, you’ve probably noticed and been surprised by the fact that AMD GPUs are the uncontested performance leaders in the market. This is in stark contrast to the PC graphics business, where AMD’s HD 7000 series has been playing a defensive game against Nvidia’s GK104 / GeForce 600 family of products. In Bitcoin mining, the situation is almost completely reversed — the Radeon 7970 is capable of 550MHash/second, while the GTX 680 is roughly 1/5 as fast.

Link: http://www.extremetech.com/computing/153467-amd-destroys-nvidia-bitcoin-mining

Quote from: Cryptomining-blog.com
On a GTX 750 Ti you are probably going to get pretty much the same performance that a Radeon R9 280X currently has for X11 mining or about 2 MHS or slightly more. So now Nvidia clearly has the advantage in X11 mining in terms of performance over AMD.

Link: http://cryptomining-blog.com/2422-updated-ccminer-1-0-beta-with-improved-performance-for-x11-mining/


Title: Re: AMD or NVIDIA?
Post by: Bombadil on March 05, 2015, 01:50:16 PM
I was going to make my own thread about this but I might as well ask it here. Do AMD and Nvidia cards perform differently depending on the algorithm? I know back when Bitcoin was mined using GPUs, an AMD part would perform much better than the equivalent Nvidia part when mining SHA-256. But nowadays I see people mining altcoins using Nvidia cards too.

e.g.

Quote from: Extremetech.com
If you typically follow GPU performance as it related to gaming but have become curious about Bitcoin mining, you’ve probably noticed and been surprised by the fact that AMD GPUs are the uncontested performance leaders in the market. This is in stark contrast to the PC graphics business, where AMD’s HD 7000 series has been playing a defensive game against Nvidia’s GK104 / GeForce 600 family of products. In Bitcoin mining, the situation is almost completely reversed — the Radeon 7970 is capable of 550MHash/second, while the GTX 680 is roughly 1/5 as fast.

Link: http://www.extremetech.com/computing/153467-amd-destroys-nvidia-bitcoin-mining

Quote from: Cryptomining-blog.com
On a GTX 750 Ti you are probably going to get pretty much the same performance that a Radeon R9 280X currently has for X11 mining or about 2 MHS or slightly more. So now Nvidia clearly has the advantage in X11 mining in terms of performance over AMD.

Link: http://cryptomining-blog.com/2422-updated-ccminer-1-0-beta-with-improved-performance-for-x11-mining/

Yep, Nvidia & AMD perform differently on different algorithms. A lot depends on the implementation though, but be sure that there are certain algos that perform better on Nvidia or on AMD.


Title: Re: AMD or NVIDIA?
Post by: muhrohmat on March 05, 2015, 01:53:23 PM
For games you should buy nvidid but for mining purposes the AMD. Is best for mining . Not btc but can easily mine altcoins like amd r9 series is best for moning and is available easily . But i am using nvidia for gaming also it can mine alts :)


Title: Re: AMD or NVIDIA?
Post by: Bombadil on March 05, 2015, 01:56:13 PM
For games you should buy nvidid but for mining purposes the AMD. Is best for mining . Not btc but can easily mine altcoins like amd r9 series is best for moning and is available easily . But i am using nvidia for gaming also it can mine alts :)

Look back and read a bit. Nvidia's can mine, profitably. Don't use one of the old series though, you'll need a 750(ti) or one of the new 9xx ones. They perform a lot better (sometimes one 750TI can get more than an R9 280 on some algos) for a lot less power usage.
I'm afraid that the rumor of Nvidias being shitty miners will persist for a very long time.


Title: Re: AMD or NVIDIA?
Post by: muhrohmat on March 05, 2015, 02:08:55 PM
For games you should buy nvidid but for mining purposes the AMD. Is best for mining . Not btc but can easily mine altcoins like amd r9 series is best for moning and is available easily . But i am using nvidia for gaming also it can mine alts :)

Look back and read a bit. Nvidia's can mine, profitably. Don't use one of the old series though, you'll need a 750(ti) or one of the new 9xx ones. They perform a lot better (sometimes one 750TI can get more than an R9 280 on some algos) for a lot less power usage.
I'm afraid that the rumor of Nvidias being shitty miners will persist for a very long time.

You cant beat amd in mining with nvidia .

I have Nvidia geforce 480 and 650ti . I get decent hash rate but as you know 480 has heat issues i dont mine alts also i'd like to play instead of wasting time on mining.


Title: Re: AMD or NVIDIA?
Post by: Bombadil on March 05, 2015, 02:16:50 PM
For games you should buy nvidid but for mining purposes the AMD. Is best for mining . Not btc but can easily mine altcoins like amd r9 series is best for moning and is available easily . But i am using nvidia for gaming also it can mine alts :)

Look back and read a bit. Nvidia's can mine, profitably. Don't use one of the old series though, you'll need a 750(ti) or one of the new 9xx ones. They perform a lot better (sometimes one 750TI can get more than an R9 280 on some algos) for a lot less power usage.
I'm afraid that the rumor of Nvidias being shitty miners will persist for a very long time.

You cant beat amd in mining with nvidia .

I have Nvidia geforce 480 and 650ti . I get decent hash rate but as you know 480 has heat issues i dont mine alts also i'd like to play instead of wasting time on mining.

You're being ignorant of what I typed. I told you that the older cards aren't worth it, only the new ones are AMD killers.


Title: Re: AMD or NVIDIA?
Post by: Bananana on March 06, 2015, 07:03:25 AM
For games you should buy nvidid but for mining purposes the AMD. Is best for mining . Not btc but can easily mine altcoins like amd r9 series is best for moning and is available easily . But i am using nvidia for gaming also it can mine alts :)

Can you please explain why is Nvidia better for games? I am using AMD 7950 for mining and gaming currently.


Title: Re: AMD or NVIDIA?
Post by: muhrohmat on April 22, 2015, 10:02:19 AM
i figure out a thing if you use a graphic card to mine a scrypt or sha256 coin in the middles 2015 you get like 1 cent per day and spend like 40 cents soo in my case after september 2014 it became so diff to have profit i mean you only get loss the years of GPU mining was from 2008 to 2013 2014 now just ended and this can become a ended subject i guess lol:)


Title: Re: AMD or NVIDIA?
Post by: djm34 on April 22, 2015, 12:14:16 PM
i figure out a thing if you use a graphic card to mine a scrypt or sha256 coin in the middles 2015 you get like 1 cent per day and spend like 40 cents soo in my case after september 2014 it became so diff to have profit i mean you only get loss the years of GPU mining was from 2008 to 2013 2014 now just ended and this can become a ended subject i guess lol:)
speak for yourself...  ;D

These posts are totally useless, tbh.
When people ask amd or nvidia, the wide majority just answer it isn't profitable...
(and if you are still mining bitcoin with a gpu, please don't give advise to anybody...
as it means you have been in hibernation for the past 3 years  ;D )


Stick to the freaking question, we don't care of your opinion if you are not interested in gpu mining  ;D
(and lets be honest, you are lost on a altcoin mining subforum which doesn't interest you so... buzz off  ;D)

pro amd: price wise a bit shipper
cons amd: power consumption and price (for the new model)

pro nvidia: power consumption especially for the 900 series
cons nvidia: well it is a bit pricey...


Title: Re: AMD or NVIDIA?
Post by: bbc.reporter on August 06, 2016, 04:02:32 AM
Hello. I want to ask in this topic which GPU to use in general. I have the money so there is no problem in that department and I am willing to spend to by a GPU to start mining altcoins with a good card. Reading the topics in this forum I noticed that there are 2 cards that stand out. They are the Nvidia GTX 1070 and the AMD Radeon R9 Nano.

Are these are 2 latest popular cards? Please give me a review and the pros and cons of each in mining.


Title: Re: AMD or NVIDIA?
Post by: Amph on August 06, 2016, 05:58:02 AM
Hello. I want to ask in this topic which GPU to use in general. I have the money so there is no problem in that department and I am willing to spend to by a GPU to start mining altcoins with a good card. Reading the topics in this forum I noticed that there are 2 cards that stand out. They are the Nvidia GTX 1070 and the AMD Radeon R9 Nano.

Are these are 2 latest popular cards? Please give me a review and the pros and cons of each in mining.

better to go with the 470 or 480 than nano, since amd is only good on etheruem, and nano is too expensive, i would choose 480 for amd and 1070 for nvidia like you said


Title: Re: AMD or NVIDIA?
Post by: U2016 on August 06, 2016, 05:59:00 AM
for GPU power AMD is best , i have not mined recently but in late 2013 i used AMD graphics and they were best at that time.


Title: Re: AMD or NVIDIA?
Post by: Amph on August 06, 2016, 06:25:05 AM
for GPU power AMD is best , i have not mined recently but in late 2013 i used AMD graphics and they were best at that time.

they are not the best since 2014, when ccminer was released, i remember that the 750ti destroyed amd completely at that time very power efficient, and good on everything


Title: Re: AMD or NVIDIA?
Post by: klondike_bar_recovery on August 06, 2016, 07:06:36 AM
the GTX1070 is a beast (and looks fantastic because you can buy a wide variety of non-reference designs).

Its about $500 and can mine ~$6/day of lbry, or $3-4/day of ethereum/lyra2/lyra2r2

meanwhile, the rx480 costs about $300 and makes ~$3/day at ethereum only.


Title: Re: AMD or NVIDIA?
Post by: Mzie on August 06, 2016, 07:22:16 AM
My curiosity ;)

Until some time ago mining with cards AMD compared to NVIDIA was very convenient especially in speed. But now, in February 2015, with the graphic evolution, amd is still the best and most affordable or not, compared to NVIDIA?



 AMD works perfect for me


Title: Re: AMD or NVIDIA?
Post by: QuintLeo on August 06, 2016, 09:59:56 PM
The NVidia Pascal cards had a short run as "much better than AMD on certain specific algorythms" when they were released, but as of RIGHT NOW it's pretty much a tossup on mining efficiency between the two on a hash/watts basis - but AMD wins on a hash/$ basis since the release of the RX480.

 There is at least one exception out there, but it's not particularly profitable - certainly not even close to ETH/ETC profitability levels.


Title: Re: AMD or NVIDIA?
Post by: Lucky - Luciano on August 06, 2016, 11:01:33 PM
the GTX1070 is a beast (and looks fantastic because you can buy a wide variety of non-reference designs).

Its about $500 and can mine ~$6/day of lbry, or $3-4/day of ethereum/lyra2/lyra2r2

meanwhile, the rx480 costs about $300 and makes ~$3/day at ethereum only.
What is hashrate for LBC?


Title: Re: AMD or NVIDIA?
Post by: Amph on August 07, 2016, 05:45:18 AM
the GTX1070 is a beast (and looks fantastic because you can buy a wide variety of non-reference designs).

Its about $500 and can mine ~$6/day of lbry, or $3-4/day of ethereum/lyra2/lyra2r2

meanwhile, the rx480 costs about $300 and makes ~$3/day at ethereum only.
What is hashrate for LBC?

up to 272 with oc, but i prefer 250 140w, than 270 180w, the consumption rise too much just for 10% increase


Title: Re: AMD or NVIDIA?
Post by: bbc.reporter on August 07, 2016, 06:24:39 AM
Thank you for the replies. They are really helpful. I am now looking to do more research on the GTX 1070. I am also looking for which MOBO is good for mining. So if anyone has good suggestions, I am listening.


Title: Re: AMD or NVIDIA?
Post by: Amph on August 07, 2016, 06:35:56 AM
Thank you for the replies. They are really helpful. I am now looking to do more research on the GTX 1070. I am also looking for which MOBO is good for mining. So if anyone has good suggestions, I am listening.

i always use the h81 pro btc, right now the heavy demand have reduced the supply, so if you don't find it in your store there are good alternative like the pro-g or h97 anniversary


Title: Re: AMD or NVIDIA?
Post by: bbc.reporter on August 08, 2016, 11:41:13 AM
Thank you for the replies. They are really helpful. I am now looking to do more research on the GTX 1070. I am also looking for which MOBO is good for mining. So if anyone has good suggestions, I am listening.

i always use the h81 pro btc, right now the heavy demand have reduced the supply, so if you don't find it in your store there are good alternativ elike the pro-g or h97 anniversary

Ok I will look into it. Thank you for all the tips and advice. You have been really helpful and it is very much appreciated.


Title: Re: AMD or NVIDIA?
Post by: JackJokasker on August 08, 2016, 12:36:06 PM
i think AMD is better
dont try to lucky mining with card. save your computer/card dont believe altcoint


Title: Re: AMD or NVIDIA?
Post by: lankyman on February 02, 2017, 08:09:52 PM
I am really keen to get the RX480 , although i am used to Nvidia for years now.
On the other hand i have an AMD machine but with a discrete AMD CPU.
I want to get a new card from what i have now which is the GTX 650.
I never ever knew about coin mining and i feel like an idiot.
If i were to get myself a Radeon RX460 graphics card or a GTX 1050 / ti then is it still possible for me to make even small pocket change?
Like i was expecting maybe 80 Dollars a month.
Have i completely missed the boat?

Would i be better off rather buying GTX 1060 or Radeon RX 480 instead?

Still undecided on which one, but it seems like what i see the Radeon is better at this stuff, though i am not experienced and i also hope i will be able to understand this 1st world stuff and be able to mine.

Many thanks


Title: Re: AMD or NVIDIA?
Post by: wizmo on February 02, 2017, 08:22:19 PM
I prefer AMD over NVIDIA I've been using AMD for last 5 years never had any problems.


Title: Re: AMD or NVIDIA?
Post by: lankyman on February 02, 2017, 08:31:10 PM
I prefer AMD over NVIDIA I've been using AMD for last 5 years never had any problems.

K cool, and with regards to the other questions like missing the boat and or the card range i should go for .... 460 - 480  1050 - 1060 ?
Also i wanted to ask , how important is name brand...
Thanks


Title: Re: AMD or NVIDIA?
Post by: onefinecoin on February 06, 2017, 01:56:48 PM
Hello !

I too was late to the party, started mining in Nov, just when ZCash had dropped, got some good earnings for a few days and then it was back to normal. I started with RX 480 and then got another one within a month, as I could only find videos and articles of ppl loving the card...

but that was only half of the story, as I involved more into mining I found out about the new miners being developed for nVidea cards and that I feel changed the game for nvidea. Though i still dont see soo much love for the GTX 10xx series.

Getting down to numbers -

I have 2 AMD RX 480 (8GB) , 1 r9 290(4GB) and 1 GTX 1060 ( 3GB ) ( all the cards are Gigabyte), and I totally love my GTX, it consumes less power, supports more algorithms ( can mine several coins which AMD cant ) and runs cooler.

Now each coin/algorithm has a different story and are too tough to compare as new miner ver. keep releasing each week and raise the efficiency. But I can say the AMD RX 480 does give me about 5% to 10% more hashrate but is 25% expensive and 15% less power efficient. So I would vouch for nVidea in present situation.

In b/w 1050, 1060 and 1070 I would still recommend 1060(3 GB) as its return over cost is best. You can roughly earn around 90 cents a day with 1060 at an average.

In my region, reselling a nvidea is also easier, so thats also a factor that counts.  The card I am referring to is priced $199 at amazon at the moment.

Hope my long advice was help full.

Regards


Title: Re: AMD or NVIDIA?
Post by: meeow on February 06, 2017, 02:09:56 PM
Hello !

I too was late to the party, started mining in Nov, just when ZCash had dropped, got some good earnings for a few days and then it was back to normal. I started with RX 480 and then got another one within a month, as I could only find videos and articles of ppl loving the card...

but that was only half of the story, as I involved more into mining I found out about the new miners being developed for nVidea cards and that I feel changed the game for nvidea. Though i still dont see soo much love for the GTX 10xx series.

Getting down to numbers -

I have 2 AMD RX 480 (8GB) , 1 r9 290(4GB) and 1 GTX 1060 ( 3GB ) ( all the cards are Gigabyte), and I totally love my GTX, it consumes less power, supports more algorithms ( can mine several coins which AMD cant ) and runs cooler.

Now each coin/algorithm has a different story and are too tough to compare as new miner ver. keep releasing each week and raise the efficiency. But I can say the AMD RX 480 does give me about 5% to 10% more hashrate but is 25% expensive and 15% less power efficient. So I would vouch for nVidea in present situation.

In b/w 1050, 1060 and 1070 I would still recommend 1060(3 GB) as its return over cost is best. You can roughly earn around 90 cents a day with 1060 at an average.

In my region, reselling a nvidea is also easier, so thats also a factor that counts.  The card I am referring to is priced $199 at amazon at the moment.

Hope my long advice was help full.

Regards

i agree that the best card for the money depends by region, for reference, i paid $110-160 for each rx470 depending on sales at the time, while gtx 1060 also costs 199 here in the US. 480 4gb cards are about $160 after mir here during sales, but a 470 is better value at 130 ish, less power and hashrate is within 10% of 480