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Title: Will data carry over? Post by: nahtnam on February 24, 2015, 06:26:57 AM Hey!
Just wondering if things like activity, post count, and time logged in will be carried over into the new forum system? Thanks. Title: Re: Will data carry over? Post by: Quickseller on February 24, 2015, 06:35:18 AM yes, everything will be transferred.
Title: Re: Will data carry over? Post by: Zawamiya on February 24, 2015, 06:45:52 AM i think yes it will applied to next software
btw when they are releasing this , i though it was feb 2015 but its almost passed Title: Re: Will data carry over? Post by: Madness on February 24, 2015, 09:51:24 AM Hey! Just wondering if things like activity, post count, and time logged in will be carried over into the new forum system? Thanks. You mean our informations ? or the features in general ? if you mean the features then yes , you can see this document right here : https://docs.google.com/document/d/1bHlm4NQkSzaBTT5tLIqQBmV92wSsbdOX5r-dRR9Dgg0/edit?usp=sharing If you mean our informations (our activity and post counts etc ...) then Yes too . the Database will be merged to the new software . ~ Madness Title: Re: Will data carry over? Post by: HeroC on February 24, 2015, 09:42:48 PM Yes, all of the features, threads, and users will be carried over to the new forum.
Title: Re: Will data carry over? Post by: Muhammed Zakir on February 25, 2015, 08:37:09 AM Yes, all of the features, threads, and users will be carried over to the new forum. I don't know but users who aren't inactive after 2011 and probably 2012 shouldn't be carried to new forum or atleast Newbies and Jr. Members except important persons and early testers, eg:- Satoshi. So we can use that names. -MZ Title: Re: Will data carry over? Post by: taesup on February 25, 2015, 11:33:51 PM As a confirmation, we're working really hard to make sure as much of the data is carried over. The only thing we can't carry over is passwords, so when you first log on to the new forum, you'll need to set a new password.
This will probably be done over email so make sure the email you have registered with THIS forum is your email and not ... say a burner email account like mailinator or something like that. Title: Re: Will data carry over? Post by: nahtnam on February 26, 2015, 12:08:33 AM As a confirmation, we're working really hard to make sure as much of the data is carried over. The only thing we can't carry over is passwords, so when you first log on to the new forum, you'll need to set a new password. This will probably be done over email so make sure the email you have registered with THIS forum is your email and not ... say a burner email account like mailinator or something like that. K. Thanks for the update. Title: Re: Will data carry over? Post by: Muhammed Zakir on February 26, 2015, 10:17:06 AM As a confirmation, we're working really hard to make sure as much of the data is carried over. The only thing we can't carry over is passwords, so when you first log on to the new forum, you'll need to set a new password. Thanks for the update! Will the hashing function be the same? SHA-256? This will probably be done over email so make sure the email you have registered with THIS forum is your email and not ... say a burner email account like mailinator or something like that. This should probably told before to the users by sending a mass PM using a bot and a 'password meter' would be good IMHO. -MZ Title: Re: Will data carry over? Post by: Quickseller on February 26, 2015, 09:05:18 PM As a confirmation, we're working really hard to make sure as much of the data is carried over. The only thing we can't carry over is passwords, so when you first log on to the new forum, you'll need to set a new password. I don't think email is a good way for users to create new passwords for their account. I am fairly sure that there are no small number of users who have used a fake/invalid email address to be associated with their account. This will probably be done over email so make sure the email you have registered with THIS forum is your email and not ... say a burner email account like mailinator or something like that. It should be trivial for most people to simply change their email address associated with their account however there are probably a good number of people who will not be active around the time the new forum goes live which means they could permanently be locked out of their account. Title: Re: Will data carry over? Post by: taesup on March 01, 2015, 01:18:13 AM As a confirmation, we're working really hard to make sure as much of the data is carried over. The only thing we can't carry over is passwords, so when you first log on to the new forum, you'll need to set a new password. I don't think email is a good way for users to create new passwords for their account. I am fairly sure that there are no small number of users who have used a fake/invalid email address to be associated with their account. This will probably be done over email so make sure the email you have registered with THIS forum is your email and not ... say a burner email account like mailinator or something like that. It should be trivial for most people to simply change their email address associated with their account however there are probably a good number of people who will not be active around the time the new forum goes live which means they could permanently be locked out of their account. I'm not sure what to say. If you don't have a valid email, there's no way to securing send you the link to register your password with the new forum. If you have a better idea, I'm more than happy to listen. If a user hasn't been using their account on the forum for a long time... well chances are they haven't been using the site much either. Either way, they can always just make a new account. Title: Re: Will data carry over? Post by: Muhammed Zakir on March 01, 2015, 06:28:06 AM I'm not sure what to say. If you don't have a valid email, there's no way to securing send you the link to register your password with the new forum. If you have a better idea, I'm more than happy to listen. If a user hasn't been using their account on the forum for a long time... well chances are they haven't been using the site much either. Either way, they can always just make a new account. What about the activity, trust, posts etc... the user has earned? Would it move from old account to new account if user provide a signed message? But wouldn't it make this worst? -MZ Title: Re: Will data carry over? Post by: taesup on March 01, 2015, 12:16:00 PM I'm not sure what to say. If you don't have a valid email, there's no way to securing send you the link to register your password with the new forum. If you have a better idea, I'm more than happy to listen. If a user hasn't been using their account on the forum for a long time... well chances are they haven't been using the site much either. Either way, they can always just make a new account. What about the activity, trust, posts etc... the user has earned? Would it move from old account to new account if user provide a signed message? But wouldn't it make this worst? -MZ That's all easily moved over. The point is that when the user's password is hashed in the old DB. We aren't going to just copy that over, the user will need to access a link and that link needs to be sent over securely. Email is the best option right now. Title: Re: Will data carry over? Post by: Madness on March 01, 2015, 12:20:30 PM I'm not sure what to say. If you don't have a valid email, there's no way to securing send you the link to register your password with the new forum. If you have a better idea, I'm more than happy to listen. If a user hasn't been using their account on the forum for a long time... well chances are they haven't been using the site much either. Either way, they can always just make a new account. What about the activity, trust, posts etc... the user has earned? Would it move from old account to new account if user provide a signed message? But wouldn't it make this worst? -MZ That's all easily moved over. The point is that when the user's password is hashed in the old DB. We aren't going to just copy that over, the user will need to access a link and that link needs to be sent over securely. Email is the best option right now. Since you are here taesup , can you please give a hint when the Beta release or the Final release are going to be available for us please :o Just estimated like May-December or whatever . ~ Madnes Title: Re: Will data carry over? Post by: onemorebtc on March 01, 2015, 12:20:42 PM That's all easily moved over. The point is that when the user's password is hashed in the old DB. We aren't going to just copy that over, the user will need to access a link and that link needs to be sent over securely. Email is the best option right now. why not? if you use a different hash algo you may just have a flag which recalcutes after first login Title: Re: Will data carry over? Post by: redsn0w on March 01, 2015, 03:50:47 PM I'm not sure what to say. If you don't have a valid email, there's no way to securing send you the link to register your password with the new forum. If you have a better idea, I'm more than happy to listen. If a user hasn't been using their account on the forum for a long time... well chances are they haven't been using the site much either. Either way, they can always just make a new account. What about the activity, trust, posts etc... the user has earned? Would it move from old account to new account if user provide a signed message? But wouldn't it make this worst? -MZ That's all easily moved over. The point is that when the user's password is hashed in the old DB. We aren't going to just copy that over, the user will need to access a link and that link needs to be sent over securely. Email is the best option right now. | taesup | This , you are right. Maybe before the migration in the new forum you can add a simple message to the top page (near the forum username): "Remember to put a valid email, or you will lose your forum account during the migration to the new forum software." Title: Re: Will data carry over? Post by: Muhammed Zakir on March 01, 2015, 03:57:09 PM That's all easily moved over. The point is that when the user's password is hashed in the old DB. We aren't going to just copy that over, the user will need to access a link and that link needs to be sent over securely. Email is the best option right now. why not? if you use a different hash algo you may just have a flag which recalcutes after first login Copying might leads to errors which will lead to further big problems. So better to be in 'safe zone'. | taesup | This , you are right. Maybe before the migration in the new forum you can add a simple message to the top page (near the forum username): "Remember to put a valid email, or you will lose your forum account during the migration to the new forum software." +10. -MZ Title: Re: Will data carry over? Post by: taesup on March 02, 2015, 06:29:15 AM I'm not sure what to say. If you don't have a valid email, there's no way to securing send you the link to register your password with the new forum. If you have a better idea, I'm more than happy to listen. If a user hasn't been using their account on the forum for a long time... well chances are they haven't been using the site much either. Either way, they can always just make a new account. What about the activity, trust, posts etc... the user has earned? Would it move from old account to new account if user provide a signed message? But wouldn't it make this worst? -MZ That's all easily moved over. The point is that when the user's password is hashed in the old DB. We aren't going to just copy that over, the user will need to access a link and that link needs to be sent over securely. Email is the best option right now. Since you are here taesup , can you please give a hint when the Beta release or the Final release are going to be available for us please :o Just estimated like May-December or whatever . ~ Madnes I can't really say but I will say that we're close. Title: Re: Will data carry over? Post by: taesup on March 02, 2015, 06:30:50 AM That's all easily moved over. The point is that when the user's password is hashed in the old DB. We aren't going to just copy that over, the user will need to access a link and that link needs to be sent over securely. Email is the best option right now. why not? if you use a different hash algo you may just have a flag which recalcutes after first login Mostly because we won't have access to it. Title: Re: Will data carry over? Post by: Monnt on March 02, 2015, 09:23:10 AM Will the new forum have the same activity/trust system as the old one?
Title: Re: Will data carry over? Post by: Muhammed Zakir on March 02, 2015, 09:30:34 AM Will the new forum have the same activity/trust system as the old one? Yes but there might be a slight different thing in Trust system. This page (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;suggest) might be shown, currently it is hidden-like page. This isn't a big change though and also a proposal regarding trust system was posted in Meta, it might be alive when new forum comes. -MZ Title: Re: Will data carry over? Post by: onemorexmr on March 02, 2015, 09:43:01 AM That's all easily moved over. The point is that when the user's password is hashed in the old DB. We aren't going to just copy that over, the user will need to access a link and that link needs to be sent over securely. Email is the best option right now. why not? if you use a different hash algo you may just have a flag which recalcutes after first login Mostly because we won't have access to it. ah, that makes sense. thanks for clarification. still i'd appreciate a better way (eg theymos making one account transfer page on the old forum) but i can live with it Title: Re: Will data carry over? Post by: najzenmajsen on March 04, 2015, 01:14:11 PM Will the new forum have the same activity/trust system as the old one? Yes but there might be a slight different thing in Trust system. This page (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;suggest) might be shown, currently it is hidden-like page. This isn't a big change though and also a proposal regarding trust system was posted in Meta, it might be alive when new forum comes. -MZ Title: Re: Will data carry over? Post by: Muhammed Zakir on March 04, 2015, 02:22:09 PM I've never actually known about that page , trust system is imo alot more complicated than it needs to be tho. That complication saved many people and also made this system stand for this long. It is never complicated if you read what you should read. See the recent discussion about trust system. -MZ Title: Re: Will data carry over? Post by: yenzae0215 on March 05, 2015, 12:23:29 AM As a confirmation, we're working really hard to make sure as much of the data is carried over. The only thing we can't carry over is passwords, so when you first log on to the new forum, you'll need to set a new password. This will probably be done over email so make sure the email you have registered with THIS forum is your email and not ... say a burner email account like mailinator or something like that. it is good to know, if thats the case, dummy accounts will be removed.. hate to see brand new and newbie accounts that is not in use anymore |