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Economy => Lending => Topic started by: waterpile on March 13, 2015, 01:07:42 AM



Title: Need .5btc loan *No Collateral*
Post by: waterpile on March 13, 2015, 01:07:42 AM
Need: .5btc
Amount to be repaid: .6btc
Repayment: July 13, 2015 or maybe less
* I want to do a partial weekly payments ranging from .04-.1btc (sig payment)

If something goes wrong would inform the lender ASAP

Will answer inquiries as best as i can. Please understand that my English is not that good. Thank you!


address: 18Hftg7gAFd7HjNhKHiw8nik8G8ffF9oMW


Title: Re: Need .5btc loan *No Collateral*
Post by: TriggerX on March 13, 2015, 01:13:27 AM
You just asked for a 0.05 loan and you repaid that one back I believe so I do trust you but I think 0.5 is too much to take without collateral.


Title: Re: Need .5btc loan *No Collateral*
Post by: waterpile on March 13, 2015, 01:29:13 AM
You just asked for a 0.05 loan and you repaid that one back I believe so I do trust you but I think 0.5 is too much to take without collateral.

Yep, I still believe that someone will trust me but lets see what happens.


Title: Re: Need .5btc loan *No Collateral*
Post by: EcuaMobi on March 13, 2015, 01:43:49 AM
You just asked for a 0.05 loan and you repaid that one back I believe so I do trust you but I think 0.5 is too much to take without collateral.

Yep, I still believe that someone will trust me but lets see what happens.

I would be fine trusting you for BTC0.5
The main problem here is the long term.


Title: Re: Need .5btc loan *No Collateral*
Post by: Muhammed Zakir on March 13, 2015, 04:26:48 AM
Can you tell why you are taking loans very frequently?


Title: Re: Need .5btc loan *No Collateral*
Post by: Somekindabitcoin on March 13, 2015, 04:27:56 AM
I believe this member is either going to run off with the money, or is building trust and is going to increase the next asking loan to over 1 btc.


Title: Re: Need .5btc loan *No Collateral*
Post by: Vod on March 13, 2015, 04:29:24 AM
I believe this member is either going to run off with the money, or is building trust and is going to increase the next asking loan to over 1 btc.

Always a possibility.  Which is why you should always require collateral before lending coins.


Title: Re: Need .5btc loan *No Collateral*
Post by: rikkie on March 13, 2015, 04:44:33 AM
If something goes wrong would inform the lender ASAP
This appears to be a gambling loan to me. My interpretation of this statement is that you will contact the lender in the event that you bust while gambling.

I have noticed, like others above have, that you have been taking out a large number of loans over the past several months, in increasing size, while taking out a second loan prior to the first loan becoming due. This would support the above theories that you are taking out confidence loans so you can eventually pull off a much larger scam


Title: Re: Need .5btc loan *No Collateral*
Post by: waterpile on March 13, 2015, 04:48:57 AM
You just asked for a 0.05 loan and you repaid that one back I believe so I do trust you but I think 0.5 is too much to take without collateral.

Yep, I still believe that someone will trust me but lets see what happens.

I would be fine trusting you for BTC0.5
The main problem here is the long term.


Yep, Thats why, i will do partiall payments by .05-1btc and won't do 1 time full payment

Can you tell why you are taking loans very frequently?

Personal reasons and gambling

I believe this member is either going to run off with the money, or is building trust and is going to increase the next asking loan to over 1 btc.

I do respect your opinion but running with .5btc won't make me rich. Also I can easily repay that .5btc within a month or two..


Title: Re: Need .5btc loan *No Collateral*
Post by: Somekindabitcoin on March 13, 2015, 04:52:40 AM
Saying that you're going to gamble the money slightly ruins your chances already. What also makes you think that the Bit-x or other sig campaigns will keep going till then?


Title: Re: Need .5btc loan *No Collateral*
Post by: waterpile on March 13, 2015, 04:56:28 AM
Saying that you're going to gamble the money slightly ruins your chances already. What also makes you think that the Bit-x or other sig campaigns will keep going till then?

Thats why its 4 months or less if campaigns have stopped there are alternatives for me like my salary..


Title: Re: Need .5btc loan *No Collateral*
Post by: bitkilo on March 13, 2015, 04:57:13 AM
Need: .5btc
Amount to be repaid: .6btc
Repayment: July 13, 2015 or maybe less
* I want to do a partial weekly payments ranging from .04-.1btc (sig payment)

If something goes wrong would inform the lender ASAP

Will answer inquiries as best as i can. Please understand that my English is not that good. Thank you!


address: 18Hftg7gAFd7HjNhKHiw8nik8G8ffF9oMW

I have seen you take a few loans and always pay back, i would trust you on this.
A couple of things do worry me though
1) Even if you do make 0.1btc a week from your sig then it still doesn't' add up to the amount borrowed in time due, it would take you 6 weeks of payments.
2) Your comment about "if something goes wrong" are you expecting something to go wrong?  

Edit: Cancel number 1, I first read that as next month.


Title: Re: Need .5btc loan *No Collateral*
Post by: waterpile on March 13, 2015, 05:03:03 AM
Need: .5btc
Amount to be repaid: .6btc
Repayment: July 13, 2015 or maybe less
* I want to do a partial weekly payments ranging from .04-.1btc (sig payment)

If something goes wrong would inform the lender ASAP

Will answer inquiries as best as i can. Please understand that my English is not that good. Thank you!


address: 18Hftg7gAFd7HjNhKHiw8nik8G8ffF9oMW

I have seen you take a few loans and always pay back, i would trust you on this.
A couple of things do worry me though
1) Even if you do make 0.1btc a week from your sig then it still doesn't' add up to the amount borrowed in time due, it would take you 6 weeks of payments.
2) Your comment about "if something goes wrong" are you expecting something to go wrong?  

Edit: Cancel number 1, I first read that as next month.

Like if i get ban from the forum (seen alot getting banned these days) or accidents.


Title: Re: Need .5btc loan *No Collateral*
Post by: bitkilo on March 13, 2015, 05:09:32 AM
That too, but i was more thinking that you may have a lot of expenses coming up and not much income, maybe about to loose your job,
Are you working full time?


Title: Re: Need .5btc loan *No Collateral*
Post by: waterpile on March 13, 2015, 05:13:11 AM
That too, but i was more thinking that you may have a lot of expenses coming up and not much income, maybe about to loose your job,
Are you working full time?

Working full time, I'm currently living with my parents and fortunately they pay the bills. :P


Title: Re: Need .5btc loan *No Collateral*
Post by: Sir Bitcoin on March 13, 2015, 05:17:01 AM
If I had to make an educated decision on this user, I would say he is infact using the loans to gamble.
He has appeared to pay his loans bac thus far.. I am not sure if his account would be worth collateral in this..?
Always use caution when trading!


Title: Re: Need .5btc loan *No Collateral*
Post by: rikkie on March 13, 2015, 05:29:02 AM
If I had to make an educated decision on this user, I would say he is infact using the loans to gamble.
He has appeared to pay his loans bac thus far.. I am not sure if his account would be worth collateral in this..?
Always use caution when trading!
It really don't matter if his account is worth the amount of the loan because he is not giving up control of his account. What matters is if his reputation is worth the amount of the loan he is trying to take out, and it is not, at least IMO


Title: Re: Need .5btc loan *No Collateral*
Post by: TriggerX on March 13, 2015, 08:01:08 AM
If I had to make an educated decision on this user, I would say he is infact using the loans to gamble.
He has appeared to pay his loans bac thus far.. I am not sure if his account would be worth collateral in this..?
Always use caution when trading!

Even though if he does gamble, the signature campaign he is with can probably make up 0.5 in a month if he posts constructive posts every week. I am fairly sure he can make the 0.5 if he loses it. The only problem here is the collateral for the 0.5. He jumped on his loan of 0.05 all the way to 0.5 which is almost impossible to get without collateral. I suggest you give your account as collateral and some altcoins to go along with it,


Title: Re: Need .5btc loan *No Collateral*
Post by: waterpile on March 13, 2015, 08:12:07 AM
If I had to make an educated decision on this user, I would say he is infact using the loans to gamble.
He has appeared to pay his loans bac thus far.. I am not sure if his account would be worth collateral in this..?
Always use caution when trading!

Even though if he does gamble, the signature campaign he is with can probably make up 0.5 in a month if he posts constructive posts every week. I am fairly sure he can make the 0.5 if he loses it. The only problem here is the collateral for the 0.5. He jumped on his loan of 0.05 all the way to 0.5 which is almost impossible to get without collateral. I suggest you give your account as collateral and some altcoins to go along with it,
Cant give the account as collateral coz of the sig campaign. Even if I tell its not for gambling most wont believe it..


Title: Re: Need .5btc loan *No Collateral*
Post by: Glucose on March 13, 2015, 09:29:19 AM

Repayment: July 13, 2015 or maybe less


Main problem is probably the term of the loan.. Very long loan..

Can't help you with this Waterpile sorry :)


Title: Re: Need .5btc loan *No Collateral*
Post by: waterpile on March 13, 2015, 09:46:46 AM

Repayment: July 13, 2015 or maybe less


Main problem is probably the term of the loan.. Very long loan..

Can't help you with this Waterpile sorry :)

Its okay, I could definitely repay the loan within a month if bit-x sig campaign would still continue..


Title: Re: Need .5btc loan *No Collateral*
Post by: botany on March 13, 2015, 01:51:05 PM
There have been cases where Marco has agreed to use the proceeds of the signature campaign to repay outstanding loans.
You can explore that. It might give comfort to some people.


Title: Re: Need .5btc loan *No Collateral*
Post by: waterpile on March 13, 2015, 01:56:29 PM
There have been cases where Marco has agreed to use the proceeds of the signature campaign to repay outstanding loans.
You can explore that. It might give comfort to some people.

Marco is currently banned. I think he is not allowed to post or send PM/s


Title: Re: Need .5btc loan *No Collateral*
Post by: jonald_fyookball on March 14, 2015, 05:57:01 AM
borrowing money to gamble with.... I mean really gambling is stupid to begin with. You are almost certainly going to lose money in the long run.  so the only value is entertainment.  and I don't think that's something you should be borrowing for.  you will never get anywhere in life with this kind of attitude toward money. You need to save, build, and invest.


Title: Re: Need .5btc loan *No Collateral*
Post by: waterpile on March 14, 2015, 06:00:36 AM
borrowing money to gamble with.... I mean really gambling is stupid to begin with. You are almost certainly going to lose money in the long run.  so the only value is entertainment.  and I don't think that's something you should be borrowing for.  you will never get anywhere in life with this kind of attitude toward money. You need to save, build, and invest.

Why you guys are always assuming that all my loans are for gambling? You guys are sure quick to make assumptions.. 


Title: Re: Need .5btc loan *No Collateral*
Post by: jonald_fyookball on March 14, 2015, 06:03:51 AM
borrowing money to gamble with.... I mean really gambling is stupid to begin with. You are almost certainly going to lose money in the long run.  so the only value is entertainment.  and I don't think that's something you should be borrowing for.  you will never get anywhere in life with this kind of attitude toward money. You need to save, build, and invest.

Why you guys are always assuming that all my loans are for gambling? You guys are sure quick to make assumptions.. 

I thought you said earlier in the thread it was for gambling


Title: Re: Need .5btc loan *No Collateral*
Post by: waterpile on March 14, 2015, 06:07:00 AM
borrowing money to gamble with.... I mean really gambling is stupid to begin with. You are almost certainly going to lose money in the long run.  so the only value is entertainment.  and I don't think that's something you should be borrowing for.  you will never get anywhere in life with this kind of attitude toward money. You need to save, build, and invest.

Why you guys are always assuming that all my loans are for gambling? You guys are sure quick to make assumptions.. 

I thought you said earlier in the thread it was for gambling

Muhamed ask the reasons of my past loan. Thats what I understand from his question and my reason for this loan is to add my investment in a dice site..


Title: Re: Need .5btc loan *No Collateral*
Post by: Quickseller on March 14, 2015, 06:18:14 AM
Why are you asking for a .1 BTC loan here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=947801.msg10768160#msg10768160) but you are asking for a .5 BTC loan on this thread.

It seems to me that you are simply trying to get as much money as possible via a loan from a lender that does not know how to protect himself.


Title: Re: Need .5btc loan *No Collateral*
Post by: waterpile on March 14, 2015, 06:25:43 AM
Why are you asking for a .1 BTC loan here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=947801.msg10768160#msg10768160) but you are asking for a .5 BTC loan on this thread.

It seems to me that you are simply trying to get as much money as possible via a loan from a lender that does not know how to protect himself.

Yeah will lock this up and If im going to scam this would be a pretty obvious one mate but will do if im on the computer.. Cant find the lock button on my phone lol


Title: Re: Need .5btc loan *No Collateral*
Post by: BitcoinRuinedMyLife on March 18, 2015, 08:43:47 AM
I believe this member is either going to run off with the money, or is building trust and is going to increase the next asking loan to over 1 btc.

Which is the problem with asking on the internet. People judge, criticize, and categorize someone for something they haven't even done just because they can. Could you imagine if you saw someone with a sweatshirt walking into the gas station, are your first thoughts is he is concealing his identity to commit a crime or he is covering his body because he is cold?

Bank loans are easier to get than BTC lol. I even asked for $20 earlier from some hindi guy who does nothing but petty loans and he denied me, not even hours went by my room mate gave me double for free.

Leave the guy alone, the person giving him the money is the one who should worry.


Title: Re: Need .5btc loan *No Collateral*
Post by: Muhammed Zakir on March 18, 2015, 09:55:51 AM
Which is the problem with asking on the internet. People judge, criticize, and categorize someone for something they haven't even done just because they can.

It is not. waterpile has borrowed money frequently and increased small amount each time. This is why Somekindabitcoin(& others) suspecting him.

Could you imagine if you saw someone with a sweatshirt walking into the gas station, are your first thoughts is he is concealing his identity to commit a crime or he is covering his body because he is cold?

It will depend on the situation, how he act etc...

Bank loans are easier to get than BTC lol.
It is harder but they will provide less interest loans.

I even asked for $20 earlier from some hindi guy who does nothing but petty loans and he denied me, not even hours went by my room mate gave me double for free.

Your roommate knows you but we don't. You could have guesses the reason easily.

Leave the guy alone, the person giving him the money is the one who should worry.

Persons posting here are either interested in lending him but are afraid or they are warning others.


Title: Re: Need .5btc loan *No Collateral*
Post by: Glucose on March 19, 2015, 06:36:59 PM
they are warning others.

I think this is an important element in the lending section. We watch out for each other and we try to solve together situations where one of us gets scammed.


Title: Re: Need .5btc loan *No Collateral*
Post by: rockBTC on March 19, 2015, 09:19:54 PM
That too, but i was more thinking that you may have a lot of expenses coming up and not much income, maybe about to loose your job,
Are you working full time?
i dont think a hundred dollard worth of BTC could help him


Title: Re: Need .5btc loan *No Collateral*
Post by: onewiseguy on March 19, 2015, 10:01:13 PM
You could find some one to lend you the .5 but for the time you asking is way to long. maybe a month would be pushing it. would you still be able to pay of price goes +300?