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1  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: October 09, 2019, 06:00:31 PM
The situation at Milan is very similar to Man Utd, both fallen giants so far away from their glory days. Football goes in cycles though, I知 confident they値l both return to glory one day. It might take 10-15 years but they値l both be back.

I don't think that Milan and Man Utd are on the same situation.
Milan is lacking both players and a talented manager. In other words they need to rebuild the team from the beginning.
Man Utd has a lot of skilled players and a good manager, but still they are unable to get results.
what these two clubs have in common is that they have lost their identity as big clubs with many achievements. the players they have are clearly talented players. Manchester United have a healthier financial compared to Milan, maybe this will be more difficult for AC Milan.
2  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: October 09, 2019, 05:03:11 PM

source: https://twitter.com/acmilan

Finally.
We have seen AC Milan's official coach now, Stefano Pioli. However the pros and cons related to who deserves to be AC Milan's coach, this has become a management decision. So we will see how AC Milan will rise up in the coming match.


this process was carried out so quickly by Milan's management. What they do is right even though the chosen coach is not a favorite of AC Milan fans. let's see how this new coach overcomes AC Milan's problems and makes Milan a strong competitor in Serie A.
3  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you think Voodoo works in Gambling Games? on: October 09, 2019, 01:45:41 PM
In an Asian country, they come to the graveyard, sleep in that place, and hoping that they will dream about the number of the lottery that will be out. And if they dream about the number, they will buy the number with some money.

A few years ago, some of my friends were asking me what number that will come out in the lottery game. As I don't know anything, I give a random number which 2 number and suddenly, tomorrow, that number comes out and my friends are the person who can win some big money.

I think that is not voodoo, but perhaps, that is what people used to win the lottery.
Asians still believe in mystical things in gambling, but there are indeed some people who get results from it. the thing that I think is too scary is to sleep on a graveyard to get a lottery number. even strange things like asking lottery numbers to people who are considered weird "like crazy" when that person mentions a number then they will use that number on the lottery.
Lol sleeping in graveyard is normal to me because sometimes our family members sleep in our grandparents grave place(but there痴 a mini house than we can take as place when we are there

But sleeping just to get Lottery number?lno way that痴 insane ,just like those people who is asking numbers in wake of the dead person?

I would rather ask the goat or cow but not dead痴
that does sound absurd but some people do, I don't know the reason either. I also think things like that are crazy actions, in this world there are indeed many strange things, maybe this is the manifestation of many differences in the world.
4  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread (EPL) on: October 09, 2019, 11:36:31 AM
Rumors bouncing here in Italy as Allegri possible new coach of Manchester United.

The 1st rumor was around May here in Italy, now they are talking again with this possibility with the date of January 2020.
if this has been discussed and there is an agreement later in 2020 does not mean OGS will remain as Manchester United coach until the end of the year, and however the results of the match against liverpool or good results over the end of the year there is no longer a chance for him to become MU coach?
5  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: October 09, 2019, 10:02:38 AM
Milan fans rejected Pioli, i think if ex AC Milan players such as Maldini and Leonardo rejected him too, maybe very possible for AC Milan canceled sign contract for Pioli. Media says, Rudi Garcia and Marcelino still on Radars.

Yeah this is a normal thing.
They wanted a top name not a "random" new one.

This happened also on Juventus last year, after Allegri we wanted an Elite coach, and #Sarriout was a normal thing when they announced him.
Does this mean that if Pioli feels suitable for AC Milan's management there will always be the possibility that he will become the new coach? His name is indeed not popular even I myself just knew that name from this thread. Most football fans like me don't know too much the name of the coach than the name of a football player.
6  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money on: October 09, 2019, 08:48:51 AM
Why are we always debating this topic. In general, everyone has the right to their opinions on the money they get from gambling or promoting gambling sites. If it's personally wrong and it's dirty money, then leave it and stay away from gambling and find a better way. So here, every opinion is kept and we are good and have the right to do it, then do it.
everyone is free to argue and this topic is a form of freedom, not to argue but only to discuss and it is good to share each person's perspective on a topic of conversation. if you don't like this topic either, that's fine.
Indeed, all of us are enjoy the freedom of speech here and discuss our matters in a friendly manner. The reason why such topics are repeated is simple because they are important and can highly effect life of those who deal in such things. It is good to be of help to someone who is committing a miserable mistake or intends to do so. Would not it be satisfying to save a life from getting destroyed.
as long as we don't talk racist and hate speech, I think it's fun to discuss. we learn new things, know very different perspectives from us. unwittingly our insights as discussion participants will broaden. This forum also has many members from different countries, I learned a lot from it.
7  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: October 09, 2019, 08:02:17 AM
what is the main reason fans of Milan refuse Pioli? and do you have a source of information to strengthen it? I think if there really is a logical reason then it might be deleted from the candidate. I just heard 2 names from you that they are also candidates, it would be better if AC Milan get an experienced coach in Serie A.

Of course it happens because Pioli not a manager are expected by Rossoneri fans. About source, you can find TTWW #PioliOUT hashtags on Twitter few hours ago. As we know, Pioli didn't manage AC Milan yet, but this hashtags become TTWW, It's mean AC Milan fans not happy with this decision and want another manager.
Ok, I'll check that later. if there are already many AC Milan fans who don't want Pioli, the club management will definitely think about it and will side with their fans. I hope the selection of coach replacements is done quickly because the vacancy of the coach's position will also affect the club's performance.
8  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread (EPL) on: October 09, 2019, 07:03:13 AM
Last season we saw a poor performance from Man United but after the manager was replaced the circumstances changed Man United like a hungry lion
Will the same thing happen this season  Huh the players need a new manager.

United's appearance in the preseason match and beating Chelsea in the opening match with a score of 4-0,
makes me confident OGS has changed this team will be respected throughout the season. but in fact 8 matches they passed,
only able to collect 9 points. I doubt and hope United replace OGS.

There are indeed 2 choices, replace OGS or buy a new player or even both  Cheesy
I'm not a MU fan but I want to see a competitor for Liverpool because they are too dominating



in my opinion it would be better if MU changed their coach, because as long as he trains there is no progress that is good enough. give him a chance in several matches and if there are still bad results that occur then there is no reason to maintain.

I think the decision will be taken after Man United vs Liverpool, the final result will determine the fate of the OGS
we know this is not an easy match but this is the only option available, Win or at least draw. Man United is also fortunate if Salah has not recovered from his injury.
Yes, I think it's also good because changing managers when going against big clubs like Liverpool is also not a good choice to do. OGS will be risking his career in that match, for Manchester United fans against Liverpool is a victory that must be obtained. I hope he will play against MU so that this match each club plays their important players.
9  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you think Voodoo works in Gambling Games? on: October 09, 2019, 05:12:38 AM
In an Asian country, they come to the graveyard, sleep in that place, and hoping that they will dream about the number of the lottery that will be out. And if they dream about the number, they will buy the number with some money.

A few years ago, some of my friends were asking me what number that will come out in the lottery game. As I don't know anything, I give a random number which 2 number and suddenly, tomorrow, that number comes out and my friends are the person who can win some big money.

I think that is not voodoo, but perhaps, that is what people used to win the lottery.
Asians still believe in mystical things in gambling, but there are indeed some people who get results from it. the thing that I think is too scary is to sleep on a graveyard to get a lottery number. even strange things like asking lottery numbers to people who are considered weird "like crazy" when that person mentions a number then they will use that number on the lottery.
10  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: October 09, 2019, 04:23:09 AM
Milan fans rejected Pioli, i think if ex AC Milan players such as Maldini and Leonardo rejected him too, maybe very possible for AC Milan canceled sign contract for Pioli. Media says, Rudi Garcia and Marcelino still on Radars.
what is the main reason fans of Milan refuse Pioli? and do you have a source of information to strengthen it? I think if there really is a logical reason then it might be deleted from the candidate. I just heard 2 names from you that they are also candidates, it would be better if AC Milan get an experienced coach in Serie A.
11  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you think Voodoo works in Gambling Games? on: October 09, 2019, 02:42:38 AM
Believe and not believe, because some of them is win and some are not. Usually in my country people look for number to lottery in graveyard or maybe go to shaman. But one thing that always on my mind is, if the shaman really can guess the number, why he not buy it for himself to be rich.  Grin
Haha, I know about this and sometimes it's funny to know! but if we laugh at this in front of people who do that we can be considered fools. like you said, if a shaman knows something like that why doesn't he enrich himself? this is the basic logic about it, but the people who do it don't think about it.  Grin
They more believe with shaman than other people who told them. Actually i face it because someone in my family did that. That man keep go to shaman, or maybe look for lottery number in place that they believe is haunted. It is funny to know they never get jackpot from it.  Grin
they keep doing it repeatedly without being aware of the fact that what they are doing is not getting any results, even things like that tend to waste time. but again, I also don't have a problem with people like that and they are free to do anything. personally I will think about things with logic first compared to believe with things that are mystical.
12  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: October 09, 2019, 12:43:01 AM
The situation at Milan is very similar to Man Utd, both fallen giants so far away from their glory days. Football goes in cycles though, I知 confident they値l both return to glory one day. It might take 10-15 years but they値l both be back.

The difference is that ManU even if is not on the top still makes a lot of money.
Milan after Berlusconi Era can't make money.

Anyway Giampaolo sacked, https://www.acmilan.com/it/news/media/2019-10-08/comunicato-ufficiale-marco-giampaolo

Tomorrow we will know the new coach.
I just saw the official news through AC Milan's Twitter about Gimpaolo. Milan must get a coach who has experience in managing a team and also achievers, Rumors circulating in the media about strong candidates for replacing Gimpaolo are Stepano Pioli, Arsene Wenger and Luciano Spalleti. Of the 3 names, who are the club's choices and understand about AC Milan's current problems?
13  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread (EPL) on: October 08, 2019, 05:16:35 PM
Mo Salah got injured in the last match vs Leicester. Seems it is nothing too serious but he will be out for at least 10-15 days. Good thing for Liverpool is that there is now an International break and he has some more time to recover. I can't remember the name of the Leicester player but it was a very dangerous tackle that infuriated everyone. 

I think he's knock just before the International break is actually a blessing in disguise for Liverpool, if it's a minor one. He'd get to rest properly after several consecutive matches. And moreover Liverpool also have series of tough fixtures lined up for just after break, they can't afford to have their top performers fatigued.
player rotation must be done to give players time to play too often, if forced it will not be good because of the potential for injury. All professional clubs must do something like this. Liverpool also play in the UCL competition and this certainly makes their players feel tired.
14  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money on: October 08, 2019, 02:59:09 PM
Why are we always debating this topic. In general, everyone has the right to their opinions on the money they get from gambling or promoting gambling sites. If it's personally wrong and it's dirty money, then leave it and stay away from gambling and find a better way. So here, every opinion is kept and we are good and have the right to do it, then do it.
everyone is free to argue and this topic is a form of freedom, not to argue but only to discuss and it is good to share each person's perspective on a topic of conversation. if you don't like this topic either, that's fine.
Yeah this forum is for everyone people have permission to talk what they feel about it. Money earning from gambling is one of good money according it to me  When you gamble you will have  ti work hard. Money is good to earn just focus on your goal to become  a good gambler other wise let what people think what they want to think.
yes, focus on yourself in finding income whatever the way. there is a result of gambling or whatever it is the same thing as a privacy right. many people are offended about how everyone is looking for income, no matter the privacy of others is a good thing in this regard.
15  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: October 08, 2019, 11:07:48 AM
Giampaolo has been "sacked" by Milan, not officially but is done.
The made almost a dial with Spaletti (ex Inter) but they got some problems in the end.

Today they will have a meeting with Stefano Pioli.
Is almost sure that Milan will have a new coach after the break.
That's the right thing to do, their current manager is not giving good results to AC Milan and has already disappointed their fans. With the change of manager, hopefully there will be an achievement that AC Milan will get or at least they will be more competitive in Serie A to get the Serie A title.
16  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you think Voodoo works in Gambling Games? on: October 08, 2019, 08:57:13 AM
I only know in the movie. If you already watch God of Gambler, you will see a spiritual has been used in the card game. But I think that will happen too in reality as we don't know who was used and who was not used. But if someone has used voodoo or spells, and he can win so much money, I guess the owner will suspicious, and they will check on that person. They don't want to see they are losing much money from that person, and they will make sure that the person is not using voodoo.

In that case, it's not voodoo but an actual hacking of the casinos system. I mean, how will we still believe in voodoo where in fact everything can be controlled through technology.
not all gamblers play online, there are many people who gamble directly like playing cards. if gambling in the online system certainly things like vodoo rumors that did not happen, maybe what he meant was gambling in certain places rumors about voodoo is always there.
17  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread (EPL) on: October 08, 2019, 06:59:24 AM
Last season we saw a poor performance from Man United but after the manager was replaced the circumstances changed Man United like a hungry lion
Will the same thing happen this season  Huh the players need a new manager.

United's appearance in the preseason match and beating Chelsea in the opening match with a score of 4-0,
makes me confident OGS has changed this team will be respected throughout the season. but in fact 8 matches they passed,
only able to collect 9 points. I doubt and hope United replace OGS.

There are indeed 2 choices, replace OGS or buy a new player or even both  Cheesy
I'm not a MU fan but I want to see a competitor for Liverpool because they are too dominating



in my opinion it would be better if MU changed their coach, because as long as he trains there is no progress that is good enough. give him a chance in several matches and if there are still bad results that occur then there is no reason to maintain.
18  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you think Voodoo works in Gambling Games? on: October 08, 2019, 05:30:16 AM
Believe and not believe, because some of them is win and some are not. Usually in my country people look for number to lottery in graveyard or maybe go to shaman. But one thing that always on my mind is, if the shaman really can guess the number, why he not buy it for himself to be rich.  Grin
Haha, I know about this and sometimes it's funny to know! but if we laugh at this in front of people who do that we can be considered fools. like you said, if a shaman knows something like that why doesn't he enrich himself? this is the basic logic about it, but the people who do it don't think about it.  Grin
19  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you think Voodoo works in Gambling Games? on: October 08, 2019, 02:13:56 AM
I have always heard of people who win games with voodoo(charms/certain spiritual power).I know Voodoo is everywhere. They are said to use it to get accuracy in their predictions, permutation, casinos, throwing of dice etc while this will help to reduce to the bearest minimum their risks of loosing.
So, Do you also think this is true?
I've also heard about this and it's always talked about by gamblers. I would assume that is not true, this is very difficult to prove by logic. if anyone really believes in it I don't mind it because things like this depend on how people respond to it. but if there are people who prove it before my own eyes maybe I will believe in it, this will be difficult to prove.
20  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread (EPL) on: October 08, 2019, 01:13:53 AM
Man united next match is vs liverpool at old trafford. If Man United still can't manage to win this, say goodbye to Ole.

This is what I've been waiting for. Interesting match. Want to see Manchester United destroyed if nothing changes. Of the 3 EPL matches, Manchester United have never won. Tragically, the MU-Liverpool match will record if LIverpool wins then Liverpool extend their winning record and inversely proportional if MU loses, it will extend Man United bad record.
If in that match Manchester United get another defeat then they must be prepared to get harsh criticism from their own fans, because the defeat with Liverpool makes their self-esteem destroyed as fans. bad game and a series of defeats MU must end at that match. if MU wins the fans will believe a little that the club will bring changes to MU.
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