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October 04, 2019, 04:10:34 PM
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I am not much of a religious man so I can't speak of what the view is from religious point of view but legally I think it is called dirty because it is near impossible to keep a track of gains and losses so it is a common misassumption that all gamblers have dirty money, as in money which they gained in some ways where they didn't have to pay any tax.

And that's why I hate taxes folks. Then again, there are plenty of countries that do not tax gambling winnings, so at least in these countries, it is not seen as dirty money.
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October 04, 2019, 05:09:39 PM
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Like I said before. All the money in this world can be considered dirty in one way or another, because it is redistributed from one person to another and not always fairly.


There is no perfect system of fairness in the world, not democracy, not capitalism not even sports.   Sometimes people will suffer bad luck but the opportunity to take part is the gift everyone should be grateful for in life.    I see nothing wrong with plain gambling as a game where you can win and often will not, anyone reasonable should accept that possibility for pretty much every task in life every day.
   When people think they will take a game and win big because they bet big and the world owes them then they are going to corrected in a likely unpleasant way.    Thats just life as an adult, its better to understand then believe its the fault of the game or whatever task you took on.    

Money is circulated constantly in an economy and thats a positive because for every loser in a trade, there is a winner and even the profits come round to favor those who do the best business.  Gambling could be looked down on as not favoring good practice, risk for the sake of risk but its nothing more negative then drinking or smoking or wasting time on many different games which dont really promote any great advantage like science or normal industry might produce.

I also believe that people are free to do as they please, everyone has the right to decide whether to play in the casino or not. However, sometimes it is necessary to limit the location of casinos to special gambling zones, as in the United States. This helps to protect the population from the painful excitement, because not all people understand that the casino is entertainment, and not a way to constantly earn money.

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October 04, 2019, 06:36:32 PM
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Why are we always debating this topic. In general, everyone has the right to their opinions on the money they get from gambling or promoting gambling sites. If it's personally wrong and it's dirty money, then leave it and stay away from gambling and find a better way. So here, every opinion is kept and we are good and have the right to do it, then do it.
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October 04, 2019, 06:47:36 PM
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Why are we always debating this topic. In general, everyone has the right to their opinions on the money they get from gambling or promoting gambling sites. If it's personally wrong and it's dirty money, then leave it and stay away from gambling and find a better way. So here, every opinion is kept and we are good and have the right to do it, then do it.
Well, yes that is your own opinion and I will not debate you on that matter. The fact gives me some reason why did you say that gambling is dirty money and that is wrong. Are you committing crimes on gambling? Is gambling prohibited in your place or even in your religion? Then, if yes. No doubt that is dirty money but if none of the above. I did not see that a profit from gambling is dirty money. The fact that all of these are superstitious beliefs.









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October 05, 2019, 12:13:22 AM
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It is difficult to control yourself so that you are not trapped to use all the money available to gamble, but I think people who are used to gambling will find it easy to exercise self-control.

It's not so easy to gamble especially if you cannot control yourself. The chance to lose money will bigger than he can imagine.

Some gamblers seek only for entertainment alone itself, they have plenty of money which losing is not even bothering them, they are just passing the time by. They are too bored having too much money on their pocket, they don't know where to spend it anymore. They don't want to donate it on charities because they are all selfish people who just wants money to keep coming on their hands.

Yes, some gamblers doing that, but not all gamblers. I know that some gamblers were generous to share some of the win money to other people, especially for people who really need money. But of course, those gamblers don't tell that people from where the money. That gambler doesn't want that person to reject the money because the money is from gambling. I think that is fine because it depends on the intention of each person.

Maybe that is why some people don't want to accept the money if they know that it is from gambling, and we cannot do anything because that will be up to them. It's better to give that money to people who really need that money.
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October 05, 2019, 06:02:38 AM
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Why are we always debating this topic. In general, everyone has the right to their opinions on the money they get from gambling or promoting gambling sites. If it's personally wrong and it's dirty money, then leave it and stay away from gambling and find a better way. So here, every opinion is kept and we are good and have the right to do it, then do it.
everyone is free to argue and this topic is a form of freedom, not to argue but only to discuss and it is good to share each person's perspective on a topic of conversation. if you don't like this topic either, that's fine.

 
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I don't think that way. If I made money, no one should look at where do I spend it or on what I use it for. Why would it even be such a bad thing? It isn't that much of a big deal, you give money and then maybe you win more or lose it all. A big percentage of money given for building churches and other religious establishments comes from mafia or some types of criminals, so gambling isn't that bad.

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October 05, 2019, 07:31:38 PM
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I don't think that way. If I made money, no one should look at where do I spend it or on what I use it for.
It’s not about where to spend but how you earn the money and from what?
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Why would it even be such a bad thing? It isn't that much of a big deal, you give money and then maybe you win more or lose it all.
It will be a bad thing if you get the money from illegal gambling or from illegal capital
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A big percentage of money given for building churches and other religious establishments comes from mafia or some types of criminals, so gambling isn't that bad.
This is another story though I This is really happening,Churches accept donation from Gaming corporation but they are opposing Gambling.”Weird “









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October 06, 2019, 04:34:09 AM
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I don't think that way. If I made money, no one should look at where do I spend it or on what I use it for. Why would it even be such a bad thing? It isn't that much of a big deal, you give money and then maybe you win more or lose it all. A big percentage of money given for building churches and other religious establishments comes from mafia or some types of criminals, so gambling isn't that bad.
no one requires you to tell where you get your money and where the money is used for, it's a privacy right. Winning, losing, or at least the results you get from gambling are also none of the business of others. You must know that not everyone has the same perspective, some say gambling is bad and categorized as "dirty money" and some say the opposite. how do you show valid data that the mafia provides funds with a large percentage in terms of religious institutions? your opinion is too bad.

 
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October 06, 2019, 05:21:28 AM
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I don't think that way. If I made money, no one should look at where do I spend it or on what I use it for. Why would it even be such a bad thing? It isn't that much of a big deal, you give money and then maybe you win more or lose it all. A big percentage of money given for building churches and other religious establishments comes from mafia or some types of criminals, so gambling isn't that bad.
I don't think bad people will spend money for doing things which don't benefit them in return. I've never heard of criminals doing charitable works instead of buying guns, drugs and illegal stuff.

Anyway, I love your maturity because you said that you don't even care on what other people will say about your gambling activity. You're right! You don't need to explain yourself to them, the important thing you are happy on what you are doing and you are degrading no one Smiley.



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October 06, 2019, 06:07:33 AM
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Why are we always debating this topic. In general, everyone has the right to their opinions on the money they get from gambling or promoting gambling sites. If it's personally wrong and it's dirty money, then leave it and stay away from gambling and find a better way. So here, every opinion is kept and we are good and have the right to do it, then do it.
Well, yes that is your own opinion and I will not debate you on that matter. The fact gives me some reason why did you say that gambling is dirty money and that is wrong. Are you committing crimes on gambling? Is gambling prohibited in your place or even in your religion? Then, if yes. No doubt that is dirty money but if none of the above. I did not see that a profit from gambling is dirty money. The fact that all of these are superstitious beliefs.

If gambling is properly defined with real examples, I bet the countries that are against it will be blown away by their own hypocrisy and blindness. Every human or government gamble on regular basis... only those who are humble enough will know this as a fact. If this is not the case, countries wouldn't spend billions on sci/tech research and experiments. Scientists or researchers don't usually tell us they fail majority of the time before succeeding or do not succeed at all. We only see the little successes but don't hear about the many failures, disappointments, and billions spent on them
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October 06, 2019, 07:17:18 AM
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I don't think that way. If I made money, no one should look at where do I spend it or on what I use it for. Why would it even be such a bad thing? It isn't that much of a big deal, you give money and then maybe you win more or lose it all. A big percentage of money given for building churches and other religious establishments comes from mafia or some types of criminals, so gambling isn't that bad.
I don't think bad people will spend money for doing things which don't benefit them in return. I've never heard of criminals doing charitable works instead of buying guns, drugs and illegal stuff.

Anyway, I love your maturity because you said that you don't even care on what other people will say about your gambling activity. You're right! You don't need to explain yourself to them, the important thing you are happy on what you are doing and you are degrading no one Smiley.
exactly, bad people only care about their own world and even tend not to care about their surroundings. how could he use their money to do things that were very contradictory to what they were doing?

in some ways I also don't care about someone's gambling activities if he doesn't bother people around him. but if people do only gamble online, this will not have a bad impact for the surrounding.

 
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October 06, 2019, 10:41:25 AM
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I don't think that way. If I made money, no one should look at where do I spend it or on what I use it for. Why would it even be such a bad thing? It isn't that much of a big deal, you give money and then maybe you win more or lose it all. A big percentage of money given for building churches and other religious establishments comes from mafia or some types of criminals, so gambling isn't that bad.
no one requires you to tell where you get your money and where the money is used for, it's a privacy right. Winning, losing, or at least the results you get from gambling are also none of the business of others. You must know that not everyone has the same perspective, some say gambling is bad and categorized as "dirty money" and some say the opposite. how do you show valid data that the mafia provides funds with a large percentage in terms of religious institutions? your opinion is too bad.
Indeed, when we use our money to conduct a certain trading activity, no one offers or asks about the source of this money because this is not what services and stores care about, they only care if we have enough money to pay or not, except for these issues, other information is private. And saying that gambling money is dirty money is probably just the mindset of some stubborn people and the lack of generosity in thinking, money anywhere or any source is still money and is still valuable to use, we are not government, we do not need to judge
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October 06, 2019, 01:25:18 PM
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This to me is a traditional view which remains persistent until the very day.

My mother considered gambling as playing with money. She sternly reminded us not to gamble. When I was in college, there was a hot debate within the church whether or not to accept donations coming from dirty sources such as gambling. And in Islam, gambling (maysir) is haram (forbidden). [1]

I have a friend whose father would not serve the family food bought using gambling money.

And just a few years ago, our Education Secretary shunned billions of state-funds because they are coming from gambling. She didn't think it moral and proper to buy books and even build classrooms using the dirty gambling money. [2]

What are your thoughts on these? Do you agree with it, or you consider these as old-fashioned views?



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1. https://questionsonislam.com/question/what-gambling-what-view-islam-gambling
2. https://www.philstar.com/other-sections/education-and-home/2016/09/29/1628372/briones-shuns-gambling-money-education
3. https://www.manilatimes.net/2016/10/29/opinion/editorial/pragmatism-morality-classrooms-pagcor-money/293705/




Your secretary's actions are correct because it is impossible to use dirty money for education, such as wanting to wash clean but by using dirty water the results will not be there.
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October 06, 2019, 01:43:01 PM
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I don't think that way. If I made money, no one should look at where do I spend it or on what I use it for. Why would it even be such a bad thing? It isn't that much of a big deal, you give money and then maybe you win more or lose it all. A big percentage of money given for building churches and other religious establishments comes from mafia or some types of criminals, so gambling isn't that bad.
no one requires you to tell where you get your money and where the money is used for, it's a privacy right. Winning, losing, or at least the results you get from gambling are also none of the business of others. You must know that not everyone has the same perspective, some say gambling is bad and categorized as "dirty money" and some say the opposite. how do you show valid data that the mafia provides funds with a large percentage in terms of religious institutions? your opinion is too bad.
Indeed, when we use our money to conduct a certain trading activity, no one offers or asks about the source of this money because this is not what services and stores care about, they only care if we have enough money to pay or not, except for these issues, other information is private. And saying that gambling money is dirty money is probably just the mindset of some stubborn people and the lack of generosity in thinking, money anywhere or any source is still money and is still valuable to use, we are not government, we do not need to judge
exactly, there is no point in the owner of a trading or gambling platform asking for the source of money used to do that. there is money, you can trade then get profit or not, it's simple. as I said before, however people say about gambling it is perspective. people have the right to say something and we also have the right to refute it or turn a deaf ear to people's arguments.

 
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October 06, 2019, 03:58:52 PM
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Why are we always debating this topic. In general, everyone has the right to their opinions on the money they get from gambling or promoting gambling sites. If it's personally wrong and it's dirty money, then leave it and stay away from gambling and find a better way. So here, every opinion is kept and we are good and have the right to do it, then do it.
everyone is free to argue and this topic is a form of freedom, not to argue but only to discuss and it is good to share each person's perspective on a topic of conversation. if you don't like this topic either, that's fine.
Yeah this forum is for everyone people have permission to talk what they feel about it. Money earning from gambling is one of good money according it to me  When you gamble you will have  ti work hard. Money is good to earn just focus on your goal to become  a good gambler other wise let what people think what they want to think.
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Old fashion belief or not we need to respect each other perception so our life will be far from trouble. Some gambling organization is legal to other states indeed they are supporting it too like in Las Vegas. And other gambling institutions are owned by the government. Some benefits of legal gambling institutions in one state are paying taxes to the government, supporting medical services like confinement, medication, dialysis and many more.

Some are not in favor of gambling but when the person put in a situation which needs financial assistance and nothing will comply on or help on whether the perception is opposed, I think they will grab it especially when that foundation is legal to that country, besides you are not the one who play the game they are. Smiley
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October 07, 2019, 03:34:35 AM
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To those who are conservative, yes its dirty money because there are lives who are ruined because of gambling, there are families who are going to miss dinner or lunch because the money was spent gambling. However, let us also look where the money goes but I am talking about regulated gambling, gambling that are operated by the government like in the Philippines.

In the Philippines, 55% of the revenue goes to the prize pool, 15% goes to the operating expenses and 30% goes to charity funds. So lets say you bought $20 worth of Lottery Tickets, that mean $6 will go the charity fund, that $6 can help those who can't pay for their hospital bills because they don't have enough money.

That 30% can go a long way if used properly by the agency, I say properly because recently, the Philippine Charity Sweepstakes Office was shut down because of alleged corruption. So for those who are thinking that its dirty, maybe we should think about those who will benefit as well, most specially those who cant afford to even buy a lottery ticket.
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When viewed from a religious point of view, gambling is indeed prohibited let alone the money generated from gambling. But it seems that everyone has the right to determine what is best for himself and is free to choose his life path.
In many countries, gambling is also prohibited and if this rule is violated it will be subject to appropriate sanctions. But that also does not reduce people's interest in gambling, because of this difference in perception that causes them to be free to act. If you ask those who gamble, why gamble, isn't gambling prohibited ? So I'm sure you will get different answers and goals.

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October 08, 2019, 02:59:09 PM
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Why are we always debating this topic. In general, everyone has the right to their opinions on the money they get from gambling or promoting gambling sites. If it's personally wrong and it's dirty money, then leave it and stay away from gambling and find a better way. So here, every opinion is kept and we are good and have the right to do it, then do it.
everyone is free to argue and this topic is a form of freedom, not to argue but only to discuss and it is good to share each person's perspective on a topic of conversation. if you don't like this topic either, that's fine.
Yeah this forum is for everyone people have permission to talk what they feel about it. Money earning from gambling is one of good money according it to me  When you gamble you will have  ti work hard. Money is good to earn just focus on your goal to become  a good gambler other wise let what people think what they want to think.
yes, focus on yourself in finding income whatever the way. there is a result of gambling or whatever it is the same thing as a privacy right. many people are offended about how everyone is looking for income, no matter the privacy of others is a good thing in this regard.

 
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