BCH is all big miners..
Well, no. As an anecdotal data point that to disprove your thesis, I have a significant investment in BCH. And I'm not a big miner. Hell, I'm not a miner at all. There are others that fit that description. is the original reason for the fork....
Sorry - wrong again. The original reason for the fork was to save the principles of Satoshi's Bitcoin from the cancer that is The SegWit Omnibus Changeset. no way they are gonna go POS coin, IMHO...
Well, I do think you are correct about that. What exactly is your issue with segwit ? Don't think you have ever said |
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I can set up a LN node and never fund it but anyone can connect to it and send funds over a LN channel
If that is even possible, it doesn't make any sense. Why would one party lock funds into a channel that their counterparty at the other end of the channel is unwilling to match? That's insane. Almost every channel in current existence was opened one sided with whoever opened the channel commiting all funds |
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I think this statement isn't accurate, is it? Amaury is lead dev for Bitcoin ABC. Bitcoin ABC is Bitcoin Cash, ABC controls the project and decides what is happening Amaury was supposedly paid for 1 years work by bitmain to fork it and get it off the ground Bitcoin Cash was a contingency plan bitmain is getting their main business taken from under them there was talks of a PoW change and bitmain needed something they could control so their miners couldn't be made obsolete. The same is happening now with monero fluffy pony tweaked the algorithm to brick bitmains cryptonight miners so they forked off monero classic that supports bitmain (is paid for by) so they can continue to have a coin that is in their control and they can guarantee it's future. Well, I thought Bitcoin ABC is just a client for Bitcoin Cash along with Unlimited, XT, and few smaller ones, no...? ABC calls the shots though the others just have to play along ABC is kind of like the official client and the one every one uses unlimited and xt don't really get a say The fixed HF schedule is set by ABC and it's ABC that dictates what gets added therefore ABC is BCH Unlike core and the other Bitcoin clients where the community gets to decide ABC just does what it's paid to do There is a huge amount of people that supports cash but not the enabling of new opcodes and I expect another split to happen soon 0.17 has been out for maybe close to a week so far and it's showing so far nobody has "upgraded" yet |
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That information is incorrect you can only receive as much as the sender has you don't need to own anything
I can set up a LN node and never fund it but anyone can connect to it and send funds over a LN channel
A channel can be one way only and most are until you have received something then you can send it back on to someone else or close the channel and gain the funds into your Bitcoin wallet
Right now the most limiting factor is you cannot send more than the channel on route with the lowest balance but once AMP is done then the payment can take multiple paths and you are then limited to the sum of all channels in the route combined
all great info. just goes to show how much there is to learn and how few people will eventually learn it. there'll need to be some epic dumbing down before it becomes an everyday thing. Bitcoin cash price is down right now especially for someone like me that bought at 2k! Many promises that we bought into is not been fulfilled right now. Bitcoincash seem not to go anywhere what is the next step in development of this coin!
you didn't sense this coin had just a little bit of an agenda driving it? it's just another alt. and all of them are taking a beating. Yea it's still early and still lots of work to be done unless you know what you are doing in a Linux terminal then you will have a bad time it's definitely not for the beginner It works well especially LND but you need to know what you are typing in if you don't then there is a high chance you will loose funds Bitcoin nodes work well on the command line but most users just use the GUI because it's simple a lightning wallet is no different once the simple GUIs come that don't require a full running node to transact It's amazing being able to send 1 Satoshi if you want that is such a small amount just a fraction of a penny |
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i think it's gonna be quite some time before we know what a lightning network can and can't do. i wouldn't pretend to have a clue. there are some very clear limitations right now. they might be solved, they might make sure it never amounts to a hill of beans. it's a bit dumb how it became bitcoin's savior without most people having any understanding of what it really is. the jury's still out for me at least. i'm in no rush to set up a channel. That information is incorrect you can only receive as much as the sender has you don't need to own anything I can set up a LN node and never fund it but anyone can connect to it and send funds over a LN channel A channel can be one way only and most are until you have received something then you can send it back on to someone else or close the channel and gain the funds into your Bitcoin wallet Right now the most limiting factor is you cannot send more than the channel on route with the lowest balance but once AMP is done then the payment can take multiple paths and you are then limited to the sum of all channels in the route combined |
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I think this statement isn't accurate, is it? Amaury is lead dev for Bitcoin ABC. Bitcoin ABC is Bitcoin Cash, ABC controls the project and decides what is happening Amaury was supposedly paid for 1 years work by bitmain to fork it and get it off the ground Bitcoin Cash was a contingency plan bitmain is getting their main business taken from under them there was talks of a PoW change and bitmain needed something they could control so their miners couldn't be made obsolete. The same is happening now with monero fluffy pony tweaked the algorithm to brick bitmains cryptonight miners so they forked off monero classic that supports bitmain (is paid for by) so they can continue to have a coin that is in their control and they can guarantee it's future. |
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GUYS Oneday..not too far away...Bitcoin Cash will get majority of PoW then become de facto Bitcoin.  That is the only way to reunite as one...all of us. I hope exchanges and others are ready for this, its going to happen alot sooner than most think. Also the opportunity to buy under $700 wont last...as the weeks and months pass, BCH will keep gaining more and more value, while og btc struggles... We will see BCH at #1. Have you compensated everyone you conned into buying BCH when it was at 0.2 BTC yet Youve been saying the same since the fork and at every bitmain/ver sponcered event and every time nothing happens BCH is almost at it's all time low even directly after the fork 8 months ago people we're selling BCH at 0.13BTC it's now onder 0.10 BTC lols haha , compensated lol , 0.2btc LOL , its been alot higher than that many many times. it went over 0.5!! did i receive peoples profits? no. Whats up tek, fatigued? like most segwtters lol your post qaulity is dropping m8. How many times do i need to tell you the same thing .... SUMMER 2018 will be when things change. 8months and BCH is stronger than ever  First they ignore you, (done) then they laugh at you, (done) then they fight you, (where we are now) then you win. summer 2018 Mahatma Gandhi  I'll save a bookmark to this and re quote it summer 2018 see how right you was |
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GUYS Oneday..not too far away...Bitcoin Cash will get majority of PoW then become de facto Bitcoin. That is the only way to reunite as one...all of us. I hope exchanges and others are ready for this, its going to happen alot sooner than most think. Also the opportunity to buy under $700 wont last...as the weeks and months pass, BCH will keep gaining more and more value, while og btc struggles... We will see BCH at #1. Have you compensated everyone you conned into buying BCH when it was at 0.2 BTC yet Youve been saying the same since the fork and at every bitmain/ver sponcered event and every time nothing happens BCH is almost at it's all time low even directly after the fork 8 months ago people we're selling BCH at 0.13BTC it's now onder 0.10 BTC |
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This is old news and it's not been partially restored that image was posted somewhere can't remember think it was by ver in r/btc a few hours before it got snagged again and that image is not even close to the old account The new user who snagged it which I don't understand how it happened since a suspended account cannot be changed releasing the username and the address remains with the account and does not go back into the pool |
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Nah it's just fun I'm not on here all day but every time one of you post I get a notification so it's not very often |
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Yes, and there might be sth real about it if you follow how VitalikB got triggered. Anyway, competition and little drama show is always good to get over bear markets.  Speaking of competitions, we're running one on Twitter about the price of BCH - and we're giving away a Ledger Nano S hardware wallet. Might add a little drama if you're watching the price on the market Oh, cool. On that twitter, that just blocked Bitcoin? Lol Core friends might feel winning now because some central auth was used to block Bitcoin .ahahhaha, how paradox. Get your competition done, more to come. It wasn't just blocked it was permanently suspended and has now been reissued to someone else but didn't last long the account should remain permanently suspended |
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Now isnt this interesting...no trolls lol
They cant trash talk a coin that they are buying lol
Nope you lot have just been quiet not trying to spread false information lol, so tek be honest, are you back in?, have you bought BCH. Not a chance I sold not long after the fork for more than its worth now  No probs, you will buy higher up then In a few months time, you will be telling people to buy 8mb BCH because your troll friends will try to keep the old chain alive. Im sure you will do the same thing you did before, tell people to buy clashic ...but this time you will say buy the 8mb. Thing is , everyone has to hodl BCH now till the fork if they want free coins from the soon to be previous fork. To say 0.17 has been available for a few days i'm not seeing any 0.17 nodes lets see how many don't upgrade there are a lot of non supporters for enabling the OP_CODES We will fork to 32mb BCH You will promote 8mb BCH once we move on  Do you like the feeling knowing the ABC devs will implement whatever they want and push it as a forced fork every 6 months The main ABC dev deadalnix is supposed to have been pain by bitmain for 12 months work this is just a rumor but if this is true lets see if he carries on working for free if bitmain don't continue to fund him lol Its open source bro...im sure bitmain cant pay him more than what he can earn by using his brain and being innovative. Also when a coin is improving, upgrading,updating, yes it may require regular forks. Ive been through so many forks bro , i dont fear them...Darkcoin forked weekly for months to implement the masternode system, eth forks regularly to add upgrades too. Right heres the thing, og btc was stagnent since 2011, once satoshi left, nothing happened, no innovation, innovation requires HARD FORKS. Thanks to core btc lost its dominance because innovation moved to altcoins...we got smart contracts on eth and privacy coins and faster cheaper coins. All this innovation is now coming back to bitcoin via Bitcoin Cash...so yes regular hard forks will be essential for BCH to become #1 biggger blocks, privacy options and more are part of BCH roadmap and the community is 100% behind it. Not even 1 long term bitcoin cash hodler on this forum has complained about the upgrades. A hard fork is necessary sometimes but shouldn't be on a fixed schedule it should only be done when absolutely necessary bitcoin users are not against increasing the blocksize it will happen but right now with segwit almost all upgrades can happen with a soft fork or sidechain/drivechain where some bad code cannot affect the main chain. What happens once all opcodes get re-enabled and some smart hackers find a way to do serious damage or some bug gets passed that effectively kills the chain BTC1 (S2X) had a huge bug that caused the chain to stall prematurely something like this can happen again at ANY scheduled HF its still a high risk just because it's never happened don't mean it won't happen The EDA was supposed to be the greatest difficulty adjustment and it got gaimed to hell and the same dev is responsible for code breaking changes Bugs, hacks, exploits, badly designed features, etc. are (and will be) present in all systems. Ethereum had its DAO, but ultimately every problem can be solved one way or another. EDA was gamed and was finally changed, DAO failure is now behind us and nobody gives a shit. If anything will go wrong I'm pretty sure there will be a solution, and if not then it's even better, right? The DAO hack required the chain to be rolled back something that is easy to do with a centralised system The more you add the more points of failure gets created it's best to keep the lowest layer (in this case the blockchain) as simple as possible and add features as additional layers that can more easily be be fixed or nuked if it's proven to be fundementally broken Lightning is one such example it can have huge bugs that have no impact whatsoever on the main chain and if it's proven that it does not work as expected but currently it's working just fine at the protocol level and once simple bugs get worked out will see mass adoption and unlimited scalability Bitcoin has the ability to do smart contracts through RSK while I don't really like or support RSK with it being separate I don't need to touch it |
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some one can explain me why some exchange delist and remove bitcoin cash pairs? This is a bit strange
No liquidity (wasn't being used) |
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ahh, but you see thats where you guys come in....if the new hf fails or anything goes wrong... we have the same amount of coins on the previous chain that you guys will keep alive Bitcoin ABC:0.14 has 35 Listening Nodes (EDA) Bitcoin ABC:0.15 has 15 Listening Nodes (EDA) Bitcoin ABC:0.16 has 859 Listening Nodes (DAA) Bitcoin ABC:0.17 has 0 Listening Nodes (15th May HF available now) Yes old nodes are being kept alive I still have a Bitcoin ABC:0.15 pruned node running but this wouldn't be needed if the chain just stalled as you could just use the existing chain BUT if a huge breaking bug got found later on say 1 month in then what would you do roll back the chain 1 month ? There is a probability of any HF introducing a breaking bugs when making huge changes that could takes weeks to find Most coders are used to patch if needed but with bitcoin most things need to be perfect and bug free from the start there is no room for mistakes |
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Now isnt this interesting...no trolls lol
They cant trash talk a coin that they are buying lol
Nope you lot have just been quiet not trying to spread false information lol, so tek be honest, are you back in?, have you bought BCH. Not a chance I sold not long after the fork for more than its worth now No probs, you will buy higher up then In a few months time, you will be telling people to buy 8mb BCH because your troll friends will try to keep the old chain alive. Im sure you will do the same thing you did before, tell people to buy clashic ...but this time you will say buy the 8mb. Thing is , everyone has to hodl BCH now till the fork if they want free coins from the soon to be previous fork. To say 0.17 has been available for a few days i'm not seeing any 0.17 nodes lets see how many don't upgrade there are a lot of non supporters for enabling the OP_CODES We will fork to 32mb BCH You will promote 8mb BCH once we move on Do you like the feeling knowing the ABC devs will implement whatever they want and push it as a forced fork every 6 months The main ABC dev deadalnix is supposed to have been pain by bitmain for 12 months work this is just a rumor but if this is true lets see if he carries on working for free if bitmain don't continue to fund him lol Its open source bro...im sure bitmain cant pay him more than what he can earn by using his brain and being innovative. Also when a coin is improving, upgrading,updating, yes it may require regular forks. Ive been through so many forks bro , i dont fear them...Darkcoin forked weekly for months to implement the masternode system, eth forks regularly to add upgrades too. Right heres the thing, og btc was stagnent since 2011, once satoshi left, nothing happened, no innovation, innovation requires HARD FORKS. Thanks to core btc lost its dominance because innovation moved to altcoins...we got smart contracts on eth and privacy coins and faster cheaper coins. All this innovation is now coming back to bitcoin via Bitcoin Cash...so yes regular hard forks will be essential for BCH to become #1 biggger blocks, privacy options and more are part of BCH roadmap and the community is 100% behind it. Not even 1 long term bitcoin cash hodler on this forum has complained about the upgrades. A hard fork is necessary sometimes but shouldn't be on a fixed schedule it should only be done when absolutely necessary bitcoin users are not against increasing the blocksize it will happen but right now with segwit almost all upgrades can happen with a soft fork or sidechain/drivechain where some bad code cannot affect the main chain. What happens once all opcodes get re-enabled and some smart hackers find a way to do serious damage or some bug gets passed that effectively kills the chain BTC1 (S2X) had a huge bug that caused the chain to stall prematurely something like this can happen again at ANY scheduled HF its still a high risk just because it's never happened don't mean it won't happen The EDA was supposed to be the greatest difficulty adjustment and it got gaimed to hell and the same dev is responsible for code breaking changes |
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Now isnt this interesting...no trolls lol
They cant trash talk a coin that they are buying lol
Nope you lot have just been quiet not trying to spread false information lol, so tek be honest, are you back in?, have you bought BCH. Not a chance I sold not long after the fork for more than its worth now No probs, you will buy higher up then In a few months time, you will be telling people to buy 8mb BCH because your troll friends will try to keep the old chain alive. Im sure you will do the same thing you did before, tell people to buy clashic ...but this time you will say buy the 8mb. Thing is , everyone has to hodl BCH now till the fork if they want free coins from the soon to be previous fork. To say 0.17 has been available for a few days i'm not seeing any 0.17 nodes lets see how many don't upgrade there are a lot of non supporters for enabling the OP_CODES We will fork to 32mb BCH You will promote 8mb BCH once we move on Do you like the feeling knowing the ABC devs will implement whatever they want and push it as a forced fork every 6 months The main ABC dev deadalnix is supposed to have been pain by bitmain for 12 months work this is just a rumor but if this is true lets see if he carries on working for free if bitmain don't continue to fund him |
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Now isnt this interesting...no trolls lol
They cant trash talk a coin that they are buying lol
Nope you lot have just been quiet not trying to spread false information lol, so tek be honest, are you back in?, have you bought BCH. Not a chance I sold not long after the fork for more than its worth now No probs, you will buy higher up then In a few months time, you will be telling people to buy 8mb BCH because your troll friends will try to keep the old chain alive. Im sure you will do the same thing you did before, tell people to buy clashic ...but this time you will say buy the 8mb. Thing is , everyone has to hodl BCH now till the fork if they want free coins from the soon to be previous fork. To say 0.17 has been available for a few days i'm not seeing any 0.17 nodes lets see how many don't upgrade there are a lot of non supporters for enabling the OP_CODES |
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Now isnt this interesting...no trolls lol
They cant trash talk a coin that they are buying lol
Nope you lot have just been quiet not trying to spread false information lol, so tek be honest, are you back in?, have you bought BCH. Not a chance I sold not long after the fork for more than its worth now |
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Now isnt this interesting...no trolls lol
They cant trash talk a coin that they are buying lol
Nope you lot have just been quiet not trying to spread false information |
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It is interesting to observe in general as the fork of one coin carries out then a fork. It if only to present, then turns out that to it there will be no end now. They will breed and will be farther only more.
This is the second fork the first was end of last year to fix the broken difficulty adjustment and have a planned fork every 6 months. There are currently a lot of disagreements going off within the BCH community between the various implementations and also with some users now getting sick of CSW and starting to call him out as a fraud Also some are demanding more transparency because they are being forced fed changes without haveing any say such as enabling opcodes and other possible breaking changes |
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