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101  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] KICKICO - PLATFORM FOR FUNDRAISING ON CRYPTOCURRENCY on: March 10, 2019, 07:16:45 AM

STO is another deception of investors. In fact, this is no different from the ICO. If STO were truly regulated, only accredited investors would be able to participate in it, and this would significantly reduce the number of investors.

Why accredited investors?
Why do we have to always think about the past?
The crypto market is new and we will be the most accredited investors in about ten years. STO are very different from ICO. we have treated the token up to now as if it were the actions of a company, but it is not so! STO gives you the right to participate in that company. We are treading the stock market but with the huge difference being in the crypto market. we do not need institutions, only adoption and progress.
You can dream about the future as much as you want, but now the situation is that STO in fact is no different from the ICO. If non - accredited investors can participate in STO, it means that it has no legal protection for these investors. This ICO, which was called differently to collect more money from this market

STO will be different from ICO because they give the investors rights while the tokens from ICO give you nothing.
This is not the right, but only the promises of the developers. But we are well aware that promises are worthless. If the regulatory authorities do not monitor the project - it can at any time change the conditions and promises will not be fulfilled. In addition, such projects may be interested in the SEC. And if he finds any problems-the price of the token can fall very much no matter how the development progresses
102  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] KICKICO - PLATFORM FOR FUNDRAISING ON CRYPTOCURRENCY on: March 10, 2019, 07:12:07 AM
True STO and ICO have the same outcome it all depends on the platform and devs that are working on it, its all the same if it fails investors lose money what we need are new platform not just copy pasted one. KICK is getting listed on many small exchanges looking at the twitter feeds.

I saw the second step for the recap, and this team is making a lot of progress. I do not understand why investors are making the price fall. this is an example of how many people do not know how to invest and do not follow the projects. I really hope they sell at a loss.


Because the ico market is now in decline. The price of the token can not grow if the platform does not have a lot of successful ico
103  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BIDOOH - A Global Digital Advertising Screen Network Open to Everyone. on: March 10, 2019, 07:09:16 AM
Bidooh advertising concept is very good and I think the Bidooh team currently too focused on their products and project development, but they forget their DOOH tokens, the current price is 1 satosi and trading volume is less than $ 200 USD
In fact, focusing only on developments is a big problem for cryptocurrency companies. We all know that marketing and exchanges are more important for investors here. If this does not happen-even a significant success in the development may not move the price of the token from its place
104  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][IRX] IRONX - Best in Crypto, Best in Trading, World-Class Exchange on: March 09, 2019, 06:21:39 AM
Still do not know the exact date of the launch of the exchange? In telegram they do not know anything about it.
they say on the telegram if the beta testing process is still running and maybe they are processing it for an IRX exchange. you just need to be patient and monitor the progress of IRONX on their telegram, I am happy to hear the news of this project if the distribution will start in this mid-March.
I hope that the project team will make every effort to ensure that the start token trading for the exchange are successful and investors make a profit. Unfortunately, few projects are profitable for investors now
105  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BIDOOH - A Global Digital Advertising Screen Network Open to Everyone. on: March 09, 2019, 06:16:43 AM
Did the team gave any timeline for a new exchange listing? Because the price tanked a lot in last couple.

No, they didn't mention any specific timeline when they are going to list the coin in other exchanges, i hope for listing the coin it will take some time because recently they issued the tokens to bounty people which we can see some major dumps in the market. Mostly the company and other people will grab the coins at the current price because the price of Bidooh coin is very cheap.

They issued bounty tokens already? That could be one of the reason why price fell so low but didn't they had a plan to release only 50% of tokens first?
In fact, they distributed all the tokens to the participants of the bounty campaign. Originally planned to do it in parts. Whether it was a mistake or it was done intentionally is not clear yet

I went through some telegram messages and can confirm that team intentionally released all bounty tokens at once which IMO is the reason that we saw such price crash.
This price was before the bounty was paid. Bounty practically did not affect the price of the token. The participants of the bounty campaign simply have no one to sell their tokens because trading volumes are very low

After bounty distribution, many people expected that the price of Biddoh coin will decrease but there are many people holding the coin in the market. Maybe once the price of Biddoh starts increasing people will start selling them in the market. Maybe after one year, they will start decreasing the supply by burning model and it will really help them to increase the value Biddoh coin.
A year from now, a lot can change. If investors did not make a profit immediately after the ico, the risks are greatly increased. Many projects within 1 year ceased to exist or changed the economic model. What if the current economic model of this project in a year in practice is not competitive? In this market you need to act quickly
106  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] KICKICO - PLATFORM FOR FUNDRAISING ON CRYPTOCURRENCY on: March 09, 2019, 06:12:02 AM
You can dream about the future as much as you want, but now the situation is that STO in fact is no different from the ICO. If non - accredited investors can participate in STO, it means that it has no legal protection for these investors. This ICO, which was called differently to collect more money from this market

it's not dreaming about this !!!! STO is a security, which gives privileges to the investor that I own. if after the company does not actually maintain the credit, this is one more thing. why if it invests a retail investor should not have any protection and if it invests the accredited one must have it? these are all stupid things told in the last 100 years. tell me?! is a dollar more true than a BTC? why? because I print America that does not hold the gold reserve !! we must change the way we think and react, but the invention of satoshi is not signified.

with the STOs the company will be able to reward you by holding the token, if it does not it will probably fail in a short time. it is normal that we have to be careful of the badly organized companies. even companies listed on the stock exchange may fail from one moment to another. If bnk stopped paying dividends it would fail very soon. if a site to do shared staking stop paying the stake, I think that after a short time it would fail. the same for the new start-ups STO .. ​​if they stop paying the holder, they fail! What's wrong?! or do you want a government that tells you where and how to invest your money to be safer !? it does not hurt to be a little more responsible and grow in life.  Wink
If the company gives any guarantees-someone has to control it. And in this case, the company can do anything. In the stock market, even if the company goes bankrupt - shareholders have the right to the company's property. And in this case, you do not have any rights even to the intellectual property of the company. Therefore, STO from ICO in this case is not much different.
107  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BIDOOH - A Global Digital Advertising Screen Network Open to Everyone. on: March 08, 2019, 07:42:48 AM
Did the team gave any timeline for a new exchange listing? Because the price tanked a lot in last couple.

No, they didn't mention any specific timeline when they are going to list the coin in other exchanges, i hope for listing the coin it will take some time because recently they issued the tokens to bounty people which we can see some major dumps in the market. Mostly the company and other people will grab the coins at the current price because the price of Bidooh coin is very cheap.

They issued bounty tokens already? That could be one of the reason why price fell so low but didn't they had a plan to release only 50% of tokens first?
In fact, they distributed all the tokens to the participants of the bounty campaign. Originally planned to do it in parts. Whether it was a mistake or it was done intentionally is not clear yet

I went through some telegram messages and can confirm that team intentionally released all bounty tokens at once which IMO is the reason that we saw such price crash.
This price was before the bounty was paid. Bounty practically did not affect the price of the token. The participants of the bounty campaign simply have no one to sell their tokens because trading volumes are very low
108  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] KICKICO - PLATFORM FOR FUNDRAISING ON CRYPTOCURRENCY on: March 08, 2019, 07:39:18 AM

STO is another deception of investors. In fact, this is no different from the ICO. If STO were truly regulated, only accredited investors would be able to participate in it, and this would significantly reduce the number of investors.

Why accredited investors?
Why do we have to always think about the past?
The crypto market is new and we will be the most accredited investors in about ten years. STO are very different from ICO. we have treated the token up to now as if it were the actions of a company, but it is not so! STO gives you the right to participate in that company. We are treading the stock market but with the huge difference being in the crypto market. we do not need institutions, only adoption and progress.
You can dream about the future as much as you want, but now the situation is that STO in fact is no different from the ICO. If non - accredited investors can participate in STO, it means that it has no legal protection for these investors. This ICO, which was called differently to collect more money from this market
109  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: WINGS ★ Where DAO Unicorns Are Born! ★ Token launched! on: March 08, 2019, 07:32:35 AM
I see everything has calmed down completely (((Do you think the project has a chance to be reborn?
I think we should wait until the developers show a new direction of the project and do not jump to conclusions until this moment
110  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: WINGS ★ Where DAO Unicorns Are Born! ★ Token launched! on: March 07, 2019, 04:27:34 AM
WINGS - Feather announcement
 http://[Suspicious link removed]/2UdltX2

this is actually nice, good job. any updates on the new direction please ?


I do not think that there are any updates on the new direction now. The team said it will invite a small number of active users to evaluate this direction. Probably more news after that.
111  Local / Токены / Re: [ANN]Patientory - здрaвooxpaнeниe в ceти блoкчeйн| •Bittrex Liqui EtherDelta• on: March 06, 2019, 04:18:43 AM
Patientory только и занимается платными конференциями и деньги у них должны быть. Я думаю в таком ключе еще можно лет пять как минимум сказки рассказывать. Ну а там что-то произойдет и будет два варианта. Или программист напишет код и что то выпустят или закончатся деньги и объявят себя банкротом. В общем реализация проекта нулевая в данное время.
Если вы ждёте высокую цену на токен то об этом можно забыть пока на сам токен нет леквидности, а для леквидности нужна рабочая платформа и приложения которыми люди будут пользоваться. За такой период времени они даже не удосужились сделать приложение для андроид.
Рабочая платформа для этого на самом деле не нужна. Ликвидность делается маркетмейкером, маркетинг с биржей + командой, новости и цена растет. Просто этот проект забил на все
112  Local / Токены / Re: [ANN][TokenSale][BOUNTY] PROPY - Глoбaльный pынoк нeдвижимocти c Дeц. Peecтpoм on: March 06, 2019, 04:15:15 AM
Эти токены на данный момент находятся в собственности проекта. Как с ними команда поступит я не знаю. Но пошаговая разморозка нескольких пачек токенов была описана в белой бумаге, 100%. Если я не ошибаюсь, там даже код смарт контракта это предусматривает.
Так что всё в порядке и по плану.


Да, это ведь стандарт вроде как, не понимаю зачем паника на пустом месте. Никто ведь не перевел их на биржу и цена не задампилась. Если у разрабов есть планы и они в них верят, то будут холдить и юзать по назначению.
Ну да, в том то и задумка. В Белой бумаге было достаточно подробно расписано, зачем и для чего будут заморожены токены, и как их потом будут использовать. Ну и как вы правильно заметили, на цене это никак не отыграло. Хотя блин, куда уж ниже ))
Пора бы уже было привыкнуть, что нынче никакие новости, кроме конечно супернегативных на цене не отражаются, основным двигателем служит настрой рынка. Проекты конечно же в таких условиях не должны останавливаться, а развиваться согласно своим планам, ну а на рынке поменяется тренд изменятся и цены альтов.
Вы абсолютно правы , если проект создавался для продвижения и работы реального продукта , а не какого-нибудь фейка , он при любом раскладе на рынке должен развиваться, а цена токена, конечно зависит от ситуации на рынке  и будет расти, как только измениться тренд на бычий .

Я насколько помню у проекта даже была одна продажа квартиры, гражданин щтатов продал квартиру в Киеве за эфир.  Правда оформляли все это договором мены, цифрового товара на квартиру.
Только в общем то никакого отношения к работе платформы эта продаже не имеет. Они просто выступили как посредник, свели покупателя с продавцом и помогли им с бумажками
113  Local / Токены / Re: [ANN] WINGS - Платформа для прогнозов on: March 06, 2019, 04:11:29 AM
Проекту WINGS чтобы выжить в суровой реальности и пока еще есть деньги, нужна перезагрузка и новое направление. Но все мне кажется намного хуже чем мы видим и команда молчит. Или боится раскрыть карты. С таким молчанием долго не продержатся. Нужно что-то делать.
Например добавить разные блокчейны и организовывать ИСО. Удалить все скамы с проекта. И постепенно набирать пользователей. Никому не нужен проект без пользователей.
А что команда сейчас может сказать? Да пользователи разбежались, да произошли делистинги... Анонс они уже дали о том что прорабатывают новое направление. И какой смысл тут проводить ico? Есть площадки более перспективные и даже у них в этом направлении дела не очень идут. Если делать площадку для проведения ico - нужно большое сообщество, которого тут уже нет. В таком случае проект и без площадки ico может провести с тем же успехом
114  Local / Токены / Re: [ANN][HAZ] HAZZA - Единая Глобальная Платежная Cеть on: March 06, 2019, 04:06:00 AM
HAZZA если и выстрелит то через несколько лет. Но нужно периодически давать информацию на каком этапе сам проект. А так мы только гадаем и предполагаем. Но что происходит на самом деле только избранным известно, но они молчат. В телеге постоянно призывают подписываться на твитер. Но зачем? Если твитер постоянно молчит.

Заметил одну особенность)) В последнее время, очень много проектов осторожничают в плане предоставление какой либо-информаци о стадии/-ях развития.


У Хазы всегда были проблемы с предоставлением инфы народу, Поли рассказывала только что все в работе над продуктом и скоро-скоро все будет. То, что сейчас многие осторожничают, так наверно потому что новости никак не сказываются на проектах, копят на начало буллрана, чтоб было что бросать в топку. Wink
Может быть новостей на столько мало и они не существенны, чтобы ими не делиться? Лично мне не понятна такая скрытность. Булрана можно ждать вечно, а игра в молчанку только создает домыслы и сомнения в честности команды
115  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ⚡⚡⚡ [ANN][SALE] YAMZU | eSports Tournaments on the Blockchain⚡⚡⚡ on: March 04, 2019, 09:37:38 AM
I see the Yamzu social media (Twitter), during February, I only see photo updates on Yamzu's twitter.
Isn't this feels weird? I understand the concept of Yamzu is eSports Tournaments on the Blockchain but, what the team doesn't have development activities, why updates are only filled in with the photo.
The main thing is that this project does not happen the same as with "esports", a project of a similar subject, which after finishing the ico seems to have forgotten that they have investors and a token
116  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] CDRX - INTRODUCING A FUNDAMENTAL SHIFT IN GLOBAL FINANCIAL MARKETS on: March 04, 2019, 09:30:54 AM
When will the listings be for exchanges? Are there any specific dates? Why are there no listings now?

They wrote earlier that it will be during Q2 2019, as now is not the best time for listing and the team is waiting for the trend to change, nowadays it is not profitable and very risky.
Good time can wait forever. What if that time doesn't come in q 2 2019? Will they reschedule? I don't think that's a good idea.
117  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][IRX] IRONX - Best in Crypto, Best in Trading, World-Class Exchange on: March 04, 2019, 09:24:25 AM
Still do not know the exact date of the launch of the exchange? In telegram they do not know anything about it.
I don't think they themselves know the exact date of the launch of the exchange. Before starting, you need to test everything several times and if errors are found - you will need more time to fix them
118  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: WINGS ★ Where DAO Unicorns Are Born! ★ Token launched! on: March 03, 2019, 04:45:27 AM
No buyer , No good exchange = DEAD

Bittrex is DEAD exchanger low volume
There will be interest in the project - there will be volumes. At the moment, the project is not interesting to anyone and until there are significant changes-more willing to buy a token will not appear
119  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]Stox - Prediction market platform | Token sale has ended on: March 03, 2019, 04:43:27 AM
Team is not active in the forum ever since they cut ties with Amazix. But if I have to guess they don't have much funds left these days.
So I can say with full confidence that they used the funds for other purposes, because it is impossible to spend such a huge amount without a result. I don't think we'll get any answers here.

If this is true, then we will see the pressure on the founder of the company from the state and find out how it really was

The founder is under pressure already. Some guy sued him for about $4 million which is really really bad if you ask me.
I feel sorry for the investors in the companies he founded. I do not think that these companies will now be able to become successful

I invested in two of the Moshe project SIRIN and STOX and sadly suffered a great loss on both of them. I doubt that it will ever recover.

I hope SIRIN is the best company compared to STOX, but everything is based on market recovery. I think it is a very bad idea to sell them now in the market due to market fluctuation we will be making very less amount of money. Now slowly market is recovering so it is a very good choice to hold them for the long term.
Both companies have the same owner. One cannot be better than the other if each of them has the same owner-a fraud
120  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: ARROUND: breakthrough advertising and communication platform in AR on: March 03, 2019, 04:38:12 AM

Even though the prices are very cheap in the market one thing we have to remember that is we should see some active developments from the team. otherwise, it is completely waste of buying these tokens in the market even though the price is low in the market.

I agree with you. Plus they need to increase there presence in the crypto world and the first step for that should be to get listed on CMC.
The priority is to increase trading volumes and the price for the token. If this happens, people will pay more attention to the project and the CMC will add this token

yes you're right, the priority now is to increase trading volume. if the volume is large this will make the ARR token better known. but unfortunately until now there is still no exchange that can make the ARR token trading volume increase

They need to build their community first as well because big exchange won't be able to do anything without community members actively trading tokens.

And their disappearance from all social media after the ICO was big red for me.
 
Unfortunately this is happening now with many projects and it is beginning to raise suspicions that in fact investors in this project was not or was very little

Even though there are very few members but Arround team managed to reach the hard cap because before ICO community kept a lot of hope on this project due to credibility they are showing to the community. Slowly team is also focusing on their development which will really help this coin to list in high volume exchanges. Most of the exchanges are always listing based on their criteria of development from the concerned team.
Have you seen their wallets? Are you sure that the money they talked about is really raised and not just drawn on the website?
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