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101  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [CHESS] FIDE Candidates Chess Tournament 2022 on: October 18, 2022, 03:04:25 PM
The data shows that Niemann began to cheat long before covid. As for the ban, the paradox is that the online competitions in which he cheated were not held under the auspices of FIDE, and there is no evidence (there is no direct evidence, there are indirect ones, but this is not enough for "legal" actions) that he cheated over the board.
Thus the swindler and thief (who was caught and admitted it) continues to participate in FIDE competitions. I am simply shocked by this nonsense and impotence of FIDE officials.
To be fair, we should admit that FIDE behaved this way towards cheaters for a long time - they catch only the most impudent ones who don't even try to hide. For example, Rasius, about whom absolutely everyone knew that he was a cheater, but he cheated for several years without any problems despite the complaints of his rivals.

What do you think should be the proper sanction given that Niemann participated in various tournaments where he cheated and won the cash prizes? I do think that we need to see a statement from the camp of Magnus about this allegation. It is has been dragging the Chess scene for a while now and it is not definitely helping in terms of its popularity amongst people.

Given that Chess.com posted a list of GMs who cheated on their website, a rule must be implemented prohibiting/punishing these players, and not Niemann alone.

What list are you talking about? I haven't seen anything like it. Chess.com has openly named only two GMs who have been caught consistently cheating - Niemann and his former coach Dlugi.

As for the sanctions, I think that it should be a lifetime ban in all competitions. And in fact, I consider this a lenient punishment, since Nieman is obviously a scammer and took other people's money through fraud. I don’t understand why he can’t be put in jail like other scammers?
102  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Ballon d'Or discussion and odds on: October 18, 2022, 02:56:57 PM
Benzema really deserved this award. He played excellent football alone, helped them win many critical matches and thanks to him, his team won trophies. I think he was the most valuable player of the last year, and he was at the age where many players retire while doing all this.
He's still doing great and I think he'll be very successful this season as well. Benzema is to be congratulated Smiley

He seems to be the oldest recipient of the award since 1956. A cool achievement even considering that modern medicine has gone very far ahead and modern players have more opportunities to extend their professional career. On the other hand, now the competition is undoubtedly higher, in those years the player was not purely professional, when the players devoted themselves to one thing all their lives since childhood.
103  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling, tourism and legal gambling age for gamblers around the world. on: October 17, 2022, 04:01:42 PM
Sounds like a plan! By the way, have you ever thought about actually doing this? After all, if you want it so much, why not? As I understand the approximate budget (minimum) for a trip there will be around 5k dollars (or am I mistaken?)? I'm not from the US and don't know the prices there. But if I wanted to go there so badly, I would start by finding out exactly how much money I need for this.
For a Vegas trip, I'm pretty sure it's not enough since $5k budget can only pay for your airfare, foods, hotel and transpo so technically you should have other budget for your gambling activities. This is also my dream, to gamble in other country and honestly, my first goal is to go to Macau for now and gamble there, I heard a good reviews of casinos there and it's really one of the tourist spot as well. Anyway, other countries have a lot of restriction with regards to gambling, the age limit should be a concern here and the campaign of the government against illegal gambling should be more strict.

If you think that $5k is not enough, then you probably keep some other amount in your head when you talk about it? 6k? 50k? At least tell me approximately, I personally have no thoughts on this matter, but such an idea is generally interesting. Visiting Macau is an interesting idea and it would be cheaper for me, but still the USA is a more interesting country, and besides, there is a crisis in China, I don’t know how safe it is to go there.
104  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2022 FIFA World Cup in Qatar - UEFA Qualifiers on: October 17, 2022, 03:53:43 PM
If I am not mistaken in the history of the World Cup, there have been at most a couple of exceptions when the hosts of the tournament did not advance from the group to the next round of the competition. Qatar has every chance to add to the list of these exceptions, although given their strong corrupt "magic" with which they generally got the right to host the tournament, you can expect some surprises, haha.

Actually, I don't expect any surprises in this regard. Qatar will probably leave the tournament without reaching the next round. They have a mediocre squad and will only qualify for the tournament because they are the host country. The Netherlands will likely lead in Qatar's group, with Ecuador and Senegal vying for second place.

The Netherlands is an obvious favorite for the first place, and in my opinion Senegal is the favorite for the second place - this is a strong team, but Ecuador, although on paper it is weaker, has already presented surprises at the World Cups and they even managed to reach the 1/8 finals. Therefore, Ecuador cannot be discounted. The problem is that I don't know anything about the Qatar national team, and judging by the posts on the forum, not many people know, haha. Maybe they have already taken naturalized Brazilians and other professionals to the national team who, for a lot of money (which there is in Qatar), agreed to change their citizenship.
105  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Chinese version of Metaverse will be great for meta casinos. on: October 17, 2022, 03:43:38 PM
Why do you think so? In China, even your health passport turns red (and bans you from all travel) if the government suspects you of going to a protest rally or the like. Why do you think that the Chinese version of the metaverse will be freer? With its actions in relation to cryptocurrencies, China has already shown that China and any decentralization and freedom are incompatible. Any Chinese product is censored garbage that can be used against you at any time. I will never use Chinese Metaverses or any other Web 3.0 products.

No government agency bother to look at Meta when Zuck was developing his facebook Meta. No SEC ever tried to look at it but when Zuck develop facebook coin SEC was threatened and issues about privacy were dug where he was summoned to the senate. But With Meta, he seems safe.

I guess it's the same with this Chinese metaverse.

Are you really that out of touch with reality? Have you ever heard about the fact that in China the Internet is very much cut off from the "external" Internet, many social networks such as Facebook are banned, and the Chinese messenger WeChat has direct message censorship? There is no chance that in the presence of such totalitarian censorship and control, such a product will appear in which they do not exist.
106  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Will you be influenced by your favourite celebrity? on: October 17, 2022, 03:37:04 PM
Would you be influenced by your favourite Celebrity who you know gambles and one day happens to post the games he played, would you be influenced to play the same game?

I am bringing up this because a popular Canadian musician Drake posted the games he played today on Stake,


Many of his fans who are into gambling as well, may have played same game without thinking. As it turns out, the game did not go as predicted for him and his bet lost.

Personally, I'm already experienced in gambling, so I'm unlikely to be influenced by any celebrity, even if I follow him. But I admit that some part of the fans may succumb to such influence and even make bets. But even taking into account the fact that Drake’s bet lost, I don’t think that anyone has the right to blame him, since having a minimal sense of common sense, you are, firstly, responsible for your own actions, and secondly, you must understand that a bet with odds of 4.68 won't work in most cases.
107  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling, tourism and legal gambling age for gamblers around the world. on: October 16, 2022, 12:26:12 PM
I agree with you, for me Las Vegas is a gambling paradise with all those big casinos, I haven't had the opportunity to go there, but honestly when I go, I have to go and play, I hope I have a lot of money to spend and I don't It hurts me to spend it, and I have as a premise that the money you take to a casino is to have fun and to spend it however you want, that is why at that time I will not be ashamed to use it however I want, for me what I am most looking for in a casino is to be able to feel that emotion, that adrenaline that the game produces, the feeling that you can win a lot, and that those spectacular memories remain, like the music, the people who are there, that is, everything.

Sounds like a plan! By the way, have you ever thought about actually doing this? After all, if you want it so much, why not? As I understand the approximate budget (minimum) for a trip there will be around 5k dollars (or am I mistaken?)? I'm not from the US and don't know the prices there. But if I wanted to go there so badly, I would start by finding out exactly how much money I need for this.
108  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Split the prize or Reroll? on: October 16, 2022, 12:17:12 PM
For me it is more ideal thing to do than getting greedy because we make another reroll there's a chance that you don't get the rewards instead of getting the half there's an assurance already that you are one of the winners. But of course if you are a risky taker another game of all or nothing to win the game.

If you look at this question with a mathematical approach, there is no difference between the first and second options - on average they will give the same prize distribution. Naturally, if you make a sufficiently large number of attempts. Therefore, in my opinion, there is no "greed/riskiness" or "reliability" option here. Both options are the same and differ only in perception, which is individual for all people. It would be another matter if the question was, for example, to take 0.05 or make a reroll with the opportunity to get 0.11 or, in another variant, 0.09. As you understand here reasoning about risk would be justified.
109  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Crypto Casinos vs money laundering. on: October 16, 2022, 11:57:12 AM
Actually no one force you to play on new casinos Grin why we need to play on new casinos when we already know the trusted and reputable casinos that operated until now? it's similar like centralized exchanges. I didn't want to touch any new casinos even though they have an interesting promotion or high bonus because any sites can offer to good to be true, but only few sites are reputable and don't lying to their customers.

I still stick with my old casinos and I never regret with my decision until now.

Same. The casino is a very high-risk topic (not in the sense of gambling, but in the sense of the player-casino relationship), so if I find a suitable casino where everything suits me and there are no problems, then I will never even try other projects. Even if there are some temporary promotions, it is unlikely that this will make me take risks and just strain for the sake of insignificant (compared to the comfort of playing in a trusted casino) bonuses.
110  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Chinese version of Metaverse will be great for meta casinos. on: October 16, 2022, 11:40:04 AM
One reason why China and even institutions around the world are not interested in crypto is because of the lack of regulations. The government is taking too long to establish a clear regulation while the government agencies are having a turf war on which of them will regulate crypto.

But the metaverse itself is not something regulate since this is not a token but a virtual space for all to connect.

Why do you think so? In China, even your health passport turns red (and bans you from all travel) if the government suspects you of going to a protest rally or the like. Why do you think that the Chinese version of the metaverse will be freer? With its actions in relation to cryptocurrencies, China has already shown that China and any decentralization and freedom are incompatible. Any Chinese product is censored garbage that can be used against you at any time. I will never use Chinese Metaverses or any other Web 3.0 products.
111  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2022 FIFA World Cup in Qatar - UEFA Qualifiers on: October 15, 2022, 07:43:52 PM
I agree that in every world cup the hosts have a slight advantage, but personally I think Qatar is probably the weakest host ever in a world cup in terms of team quality and I don't expect them to make it to the knockout stages of the world cup.
The Netherlands is one of the favorites of this world championship, and Senegal, if I remember correctly, is the runner-up of Africa.
Senegal also have a good chance of reaching the knockout stages of the World Cup and perhaps equaling their greatest World Cup success, the quarter-finals at the 2002 World Cup.

If I am not mistaken in the history of the World Cup, there have been at most a couple of exceptions when the hosts of the tournament did not advance from the group to the next round of the competition. Qatar has every chance to add to the list of these exceptions, although given their strong corrupt "magic" with which they generally got the right to host the tournament, you can expect some surprises, haha.
112  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Survey] Do you still play or stop the game? on: October 15, 2022, 07:30:18 PM
If you are playing gambling for example slots and you double money with just a couple of bets on very early part of your game. Will you stop already or continue playing to earn more?

I’ve been on this situation many times before and I keep playing until I get the entertainment that I want and to have more profit. But the result is always ended up losing everything because it’s very easy to increase bet if you knew that your money that you use is a profit.  Cheesy

It depends on my mood, but I think that if I started playing, I will definitely not finish after a few bets, even if they brought me a good profit. The meaning of betting is entertainment and having made a couple of bets, I definitely won’t have time to “enjoy” this entertainment. In general, this question is as strange as "will you turn off the movie if you have already seen a lot of funny and interesting things in the first few minutes?". At least for me it is, but maybe for those who gamble for profit, everything is different.
113  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Boxing Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: October 14, 2022, 04:28:02 PM
Wilder didn't have epic fights to win. This is probably his problem - he farmed excellent statistics for himself on ordinary opponents, but could not level up to become really great. Wilder didn't have epic fights to win. This is probably his problem - he farmed excellent statistics for himself on ordinary opponents, but could not level up to become really great.
I think you have heard of such a boxer as Valuev. He has incredible fight statistics: 50 wins with only two losses. But there is hardly anyone who considers him great (or interesting for something other than his size haha), and even I will say that most sports fans, if they are not from Russia, most likely have not heard of him.
Wilder is of course the more flamboyant boxer, but I see similarities between these two professional boxing careers.

It's because Wilder just rely on his God given talent, that is one punch KO, but if it fails then there is no back up. He is not a technical boxer, he can't dance inside the ring, and that is his downfall.

And when he faces a technical fighter in Fury, he was really exposed. He got lucky in the first fight because he was able to knock down Fury, but Tyson get up from the best shot of Wilder and beat his ass on the second. So he is good but not on the elite level, and most Heavyweight boxers that is considered great are somewhat technical, and has both power and boxing IQ.

Wilder switched to boxing late compared to other professional athletes so his technical problems have obvious reasons (if I'm not mistaken, he chose boxing after basketball), but it must be admitted that he has grown professionally throughout his career and although such a large gap in athletic youth cannot be completely corrected, Wilder has achieved a lot.
By the way, if in a fight with Fury he would have been a little more successful (for example, Fury could have remained lying down after knockouts), then now we would evaluate Wilder in a completely different way.
114  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Boxing: Dmitry Bivol vs Zurdo Ramirez on: October 14, 2022, 04:16:54 PM
On the one hand, I agree that these are Canelo's problems, since he needs a revenge to restore his reputation. But we must also not forget that if Bivol loses weight, then this will not give Canelo any advantage - on the contrary, Bivol will gain an advantage. Most athletes use methods to cut weight to the desired numbers through various procedures, as a result of which weight is lost due to dehydration and fat burning. Muscles remain in place. Thus, when fighting in a lower weight class, Bivol will be just as strong and perhaps even a little faster. Therefore, I think that Canelo will try to gain weight himself in order to fight in the Bivol weight category.

Each body is different, everyone has different metabolism, but in most cases, muscles burn faster and first, than fat. That is why sitting on a diet wont make fat women fit Cheesy

We do not know what is really written in that rematch clause, but Bivol only needs that if he only needs money. He has already beaten Canelo. It is Canelos obligatory to fight in 175, because Bivol did not aim to fight in super middleweight in first place. And I think that Bivol is not really interested in having that rematch. Instead, it will be more interesting for him to face Beterbiev or to go to cruiserweight, then make a step back and fight in 168.

In professional sports, things work differently (although even in the case of women, I'm not sure that your judgment is correct). Professional athletes lose weight not really, but formally - they lose weight before weighing in order to regain a significant part of it in the remaining day before the fight. That is why any diuretics are prohibited along with other types of doping.
Regarding your reasoning about the interests of Bivol and Canelo, I agree, and it seems to me that Canelo will not seek revenge - he has already been humiliated once, there is no reason to believe that this will not happen again.
115  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is It An Easy Transition From Gamer To Gambler In Casino. on: October 14, 2022, 03:45:04 PM
I understand what you are talking about, but it seems to me that we are not discussing grinding in games - where everyone is equal at a distance, that is, roughly speaking, if you grind for 100 hours, then on average you will get 2 S things, 10 A things, etc. We are talking about buying additional boxes from which you can get items that are not otherwise available in the game. And this is very similar to gambling. Because there is no "buying a sword for 100 dollars" but there is buying a lottery ticket to get a sword and in the end the price of the sword can be several thousand dollars if you are unlucky and let's say 5 dollars if you are lucky. How is this different from gambling?
Just like I used in the example it's like gacha games where players are pulling items or wishing for them with the use of their money. Yes, that's almost gambling because of the risk and money that was involved.
Sorry that I have no idea about the example you used but it seems it's near what I have stated, maybe you just missed reading that part.
Yes, we are going far from what the OP is trying to ask. It is about the transition.
I think it's easy to be a gambler after being a gamer because you have been through different types of risks.
As I said in my earlier posts, gambling is way easier to learn than games with lots of tutorials and instructions to learn.

I don't think we've gotten off topic, Op says:

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If you're a gamer or someone is a gamer and would like to try to gamble in online casinos will it become an easy transition as all the elements of gambling are present when you're a gamer, or does a gamer have to start all over again, and have a different motivation and mindset?

Essentially the OP is asking about games that already have a gambling element, and it is clear that the transition from games that contain a gambling element to games that are completely gambling is very simple.
If we transfer the discussion to other games where the risk is choosing strategies/counter strategies to what the opponent is doing, then this is really a different type of risk and I do not think that it will lead the gamer to gambling.
116  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽UEFA Conference League Discussion Thread -- 2022/23 | Group Stages on: October 14, 2022, 03:35:40 PM
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For me biggest upset today is Cluj win against Slavia. They were big underdogs, but managed to score 2 goals, Slavia failed to score, despite making 24 shots, 4 on target.

Maybe I'm wrong, but it seems to me that this pattern (when the favorite seems to be trying and delivering an incredible number of shots on goal but cannot score) for some reason is often found in such "weak" tournaments. For example, yesterday the same thing happened in the game Manchester United - Omonia. I can't explain it by a lack of motivation - after all, the team is doing useful things and even more than usual (against equal opponents), but at the same time, the performance is very low. I wonder why.
117  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: A poker website, but with chess/checkers/backgammon? on: October 14, 2022, 03:27:55 PM
Guys, I am not talking about humans playing against bots - I know that it would be a totally boring experience. I'm talking about two people playing against each other. Possibly more people in the case of 4-player games e.g. hearts, spades.

In SWC Poker you don't play poker against bots, you join a "room" where there are a bunch of other people playing. That's the kind of business model I'm talking about.

We could ban people who attempt to use bots on our sites (of course this comes with all the baggage associated with confiscating winnings/money, but I'll save that for a different topic).

Wherever there are cash prizes (or cash games) there will be cheaters. Given that almost all board games are already an easy task for computer programs, your idea will face the fact that players will use computer prompts. How are you going to solve this problem? Even such monsters of the industry as chess.com have been developing a system for combating cheaters for many years and it is still not perfect.
118  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Split the prize or Reroll? on: October 13, 2022, 02:05:29 PM
Let's say you join a give away with other user and both have to select a number between 1 and 10, you go for 7 while he goes for 9. The winning number is 8.

If the prize is 0.1BTC what would you do? Split the prize and walk away with 0.05 or Reroll to gamble for the full prize?

Reroll. 7 and 8 differ from 9 in the same way as from 1 or 4 - they are completely different numbers. If, according to the conditions of the giveaway, it is necessary to guess the number, and not the number as close as possible to some other number, then you need to make a reroll.
In general, I think that everything should be discussed in advance - sometimes after the draw there are nuances and everyone interprets them in their favor, this leads to unnecessary disputes and insults.
119  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Boxing Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: October 13, 2022, 12:47:31 PM
Presumably everyone knows the outcome of this fight: Wilder's victory by knockout - is only a matter of which round. This is a practice fight and will only get attention if Wilder doesn't win it for some reason. In the same way, no one will pay much attention to any Fury fights ahead of those fights that everyone is waiting for - against Usyk or at least AJ.

They are heavyweights, one punch, one swing and you are done. Many did not expect that Tyson Fury would stand up after Wilder connected in 12th round in their first fight. As you have mentioned AJ and Usyk, many expected AJ to win, but he has lost, twice. Even Jake Paul is getting more attention than Wilder Cheesy I find it strange. We have seen how great fighters fall down, but people still watch and discuss their fights. We have somehow missed out Wilder completely.

Wilder didn't have epic fights to win. This is probably his problem - he farmed excellent statistics for himself on ordinary opponents, but could not level up to become really great. Wilder didn't have epic fights to win. This is probably his problem - he farmed excellent statistics for himself on ordinary opponents, but could not level up to become really great.
I think you have heard of such a boxer as Valuev. He has incredible fight statistics: 50 wins with only two losses. But there is hardly anyone who considers him great (or interesting for something other than his size haha), and even I will say that most sports fans, if they are not from Russia, most likely have not heard of him.
Wilder is of course the more flamboyant boxer, but I see similarities between these two professional boxing careers.
120  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽UEFA Europa League Discussion Thread -- 2022/23 | Group Stages on: October 13, 2022, 12:33:14 PM
Time to bump this topic. For me today Betis - Roma game looks most interesting today. Roma have just 3 points so far, but they're just 1 point behind Ludogorets. My pick here is BTTS.
In group F all 4 teams have 4 points, but today expect Feyenoord and Lazio win which will improve their situation significantly.
Attractive odds for Qararag. I expect them to win against Olympiacos which looks awful and have some important players injured. and leave team without points.
Royale Union - Braga should be interesting game, Union so far looking surprisingly good.

Undoubtedly, this is the central game of the tour, since by name it is the loudest sign. Only the game Nantes - Freiburg can compete in terms of interestingness. Maybe BTTS is a good choice as it's not the most important game in the tournament sense (even with a loss Roma have excellent chances for the second place, and Betis already takes the first place with 99% probability) so the teams will play at their own pleasure and as in the first game we will see goals in both directions.
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