Here it is running for 9 hours on p2pool, Current firmware revision: neptune-1.00 (cgminer 4.4.1)  |
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Neptune with 4 cubes (2.8 THS)
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Thank you all for your attempts to help me.
So normally with a non p2pool pool, I can easily find issues and see my earnings drop by seeing the live hashrate. (eligius has 1min 5min hashrate etc)
On p2pool it's very hard to know my actual hashrate. So if my miner has issues,or my nose has network issues, and I am down 5-10% of my hashrate , it's hard to detect.
My hashrate always shows less on p2pool than on a normal pool
Any suggestions?
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I'm looking for a calculator, something that takes into account the current p2pool hashrate and yours and gives you an accurate estimate per block how much you should make, so I can verify that my miner is working correctly and my payout makes sense
http://localhost:9332 will give you that information if you are running your own node. The 1st page will tell you your current payout if a block is found now (based on shares actually found), and it also shows an estimate of what you should earn per block if you maintain your current hash rate for 24 hours. This will show me based on my effectual hashrate , averaged over a 3 day PPLNS period, your expected earnings are 0.xyz BTC per block. This doesn't give me how much btc my raw "abc" hashrate (divide by current total pool speed) working in ideal perfect situation will give me if my miner continues to reliably hash at "abc" hashrate This will allow me to troubleshoot if I have network issues, config issues, or hardware issues... That is my main concern |
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I'm looking for a calculator, something that takes into account the current p2pool hashrate and yours and gives you an accurate estimate per block how much you should make, so I can verify that my miner is working correctly and my payout makes sense
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From the horse's mouth: Dear Customers, We are sorry for the lack of communication lately. We've been mostly in the factories setting up the line and managing that the parts are manufactured and delivered in the right place in time. We'll write a detail update later if the time permits. We've added new pictures Regards! http://ecointalk.net/gallery/album/56-22-07-2104-update/ |
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well i got an email from MS saying that my order is in the next batch of X1's. i guess pigs will start flying soon.
Your order is an X3 I presume? |
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Looks like ~850-890 at the wall. Got a single 1 module X3 for testing eval and writing our guide, several X3s went out direct to customers on Saturday as well. I didnt want to take any units away from paying customers till my orders are hit in the Q.
Again, thank you. You are the only one who has really bothered to post ANYTHING at all. Black Arrow is a shame of a company, they need to learn about communication with their customers |
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Put it this way, many diffs ago, on a lucky day in mining, you could earn 10 bitcoin in one day or 1 bitcoin on a bad day with 60GH. In today's diffs, even if they fluctuate a little instead of just going up, there is no way in an eternity you could ever make up those 9 bitcoin with 60GH unless you used your avalon as a weapon to hit someone over the head and steal their money.
The next block halving will probably be the only time we'll ever see a significant drop again (unless BTC value crashes). What effect that will have on a tight margin network (unlike the GPU days) is unpredictable.
LOL. Not only are you intelligent, you can also explain things very well. Excellent work |
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Windpath, both your DNS entries (mining.coincadence.com and mining2.coincadence.com) are actually pointing to the same IP?
Pinging mining.coincadence.com [54.235.94.19]
Pinging mining2.coincadence.com [54.235.94.19]
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Your argument is based on the statement that difficulty keeps rising. While historically this is true, it is not a guarantee of future patterns. Yes, we have seen some insane rises in difficulty, but that is due to a number of factors including wider acceptance, general knowledge of crypto-currencies, incredible hardware advances, etc. I don't think we can state as a fact that difficulty will forever continuously rise.
Just wondering... I thought that the difficulty levels where built in to the whole pattern... or design of bitcoin and mining... I thought that it was set well in advance every level? Is it possible that it will stop going up?? I figured for sure within a few months I would be pushed out because of this and the expenses...? Running 4 TH for a few months now and it has gone way down..... It can go down if the hashrate drops. See the table at the bottom, difficulty did go down twice before. https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficultyThis will only happen if the profit that you can get out of buying new mining equipment is less than the total return (or estimated speculative return). Or if the total profit is less than the cost to run the unit (loss situation), then people will start turning off their machines. Already a lot of the older hardware (BFL, some of those USB miners) have been shut off as they are losing money to run |
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Yes you can. Consequently you can also gain money. Contrary to what people will insist on, it does NOT even out in the end because difficulty keeps rising. However luck determines if you're ahead long term or behind long term in an irretrievable way. If diff did not continually rise and rose-and-fell or stayed the same it would even out.
Thank you ck Always good to hear from people that know what they are talking about. You are pillars of the community. Cheers! |
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I'm wondering, with high variance on p2pool or another somewhat smaller pool, is it possible to actually lose money? Like in the long run luck is irrelevant, but what if you have really bad luck and then the difficulty goes up 30%?
In this situation do you lose money because of high variance?
I don't understand the math well enough to answer this question but I am sure many of you can
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Awesome work windpath  Can I ask, what is the end game for hosting a 0% p2pool node? Obviously it costs you money. One is to support a decentralized bitcoin I am sure, but what else are your goals? Thanks. My short term goals are pretty similar to many others here: 1. Grow the p2pool network; first through the addition of new nodes run by active miners, and second by providing access to reliable fast nodes for those without the time or inclination to set up their own. 2. Complete transparency; p2pool is in the unique position to be the first completely transparent pool. The data is all there, its just a matter of collecting, storing and presenting it to users. 3. Hardware compatibility; Work towards getting as much existing and new hardware to play well with the pool. New generations of HW are particularly important, as without them the pool will eventually dwindle. 4. Solve the variance/small miner challenges facing the pool so that it can grow and scale while remaining an attractive option to all. To be honest, right now the "end game" is so far in the future its not even really a concern... At some point, if both Coin Cadence and p2pool are running strong, I do plan to implement some sort of revenue stream to support the operation of my node(s), and maybe even make a small profit, but for now and the foreseeable future working towards the challenges above takes priority, and I'm happy to host my node(s) on my own dime... +1 You make me want to host a node too haha Listen thanks for your help guys. I wish I would have jumped on p2pool ages ago. I think you should add that 3 day PPLNS period to your site though (maybe on a faq "why are my payouts so low?") . That was very confusing to me why my payouts were so low in the first day of so. I almost dropped out thinking I'm gonna lose half my income if I stay here. Glad I hung out long enough to get past that Also another challenge for noobs is lack of down notifications (I handled this via a cron job now) . One way I've seen this handled on other pools is you use your email address as your worker password and then the pool can email you when it goes down. Thoughts? |
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Awesome work windpath Can I ask, what is the end game for hosting a 0% p2pool node? Obviously it costs you money. One is to support a decentralized bitcoin I am sure, but what else are your goals? |
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Sorry what is this 3 day PPLNS period? Is that how p2pool works?
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Every pool has variance. Right now p2pool appears to be on the positive side of luck. That said, I'm not sure this number is right. According to http://p2pool.info/, it's 127.4%. M You are right. I pm'd windpath about this. It's off by 20% or so from p2pool.info |
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 Is this also what BTCGuild is reporting? |
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Someone explain this to me please P2pool Luck Thirty Days 142.57% according to http://minefast.coincadence.com/p2pool-stats.phpDoes this mean on average you would have earned around 50% more on this pool than on say btcguild (which has 95.209% average for 30 days)? |
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