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101  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: 2 miners turned down to 50% of its default power consumption do better than 1? on: October 31, 2022, 09:50:31 PM
At that point, the fixed load of fans and controller probably start to become a more significant part of the overall power draw. It's kinda like how at low speeds in a car, rolling resistance will dictate your energy use more than wind resistance though wind resistance dominates at high speed.
102  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: 2 miners turned down to 50% of its default power consumption do better than 1? on: October 23, 2022, 04:52:04 PM
Power use for increased hashrate isn't linear. The marginal increase in power use grows as hashrate increases. To run a higher clock speed, you need a higher voltage to have more juice to make all the transistors switch faster, but a higher voltage also results in a higher current draw, which means that since power is current times voltage, and both are increasing, you get an exponential increase. Like if it runs 1V/1A at 1GH the power is 1x1=1W, but if to get 1.1GH you increase to 1.1V, the current increases to 1.1A so power is 1.1x1.1=1.21W so you see an 21% increase in power use for a 10% increase in work.

Same the other way. If you decrease the voltage from 1 to 0.9, the current drops from 1 to 0.9, and now power use is 0.9x0.9=0.81W so you see a 19% drop in power use for only a 10% drop in hashrate.

That's not real numbers, by the way. The actual interactions are a lot more complex, but it's a conceptual illustration. When you undervolt and underclock something, the power use per hash will decrease more than the linear decrease in hashrate. So yes, two undervolted S9 at half power should have a higher hashrate than one S9 at full power, because the chips are running more efficiently.

There's also additional benefits from running colder reducing the current load, but that's a less obvious effect.
103  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Open Source Bitcoin ASIC miner project that uses 2x BM1387 (Antminer S9) on: October 22, 2022, 02:16:30 PM
I'm not sure how much worse it is now but when I finished my EE/CpE over a decade ago, half my senior design class had never used a soldering iron, and that's at one of the best engineering schools in the midwest (usually ranked #1 when comparing quality versus price). It's definitely disappointing how much hands-on stuff isn't being taught.
104  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: GekkoScience has a new stickminer that does 300+GH on: October 18, 2022, 01:56:01 AM
Yeah we had to swap packages on the USB, and do a whole redesign of the main regulator. There've actually been three different versions of the Compac F so far, depending on what parts we could get ahold of. That also pushed the hub redesign, which I had been needing to do anyway.
105  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Solar Powered Farm on: October 17, 2022, 05:52:52 AM
If you're running a GS hub, just make sure you're feeding it actual 12V (the input voltage tolerance depends on the version of hub you're using) and you won't need the inverter and power supply.
106  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: GekkoScience has a new stickminer that does 300+GH on: October 16, 2022, 03:00:11 PM
Merch, 419 and ASICPuppy hsve received stock of the new hubs.
107  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: GekkoScience has a new stickminer that does 300+GH on: October 07, 2022, 04:34:04 PM
That's what the USB port is supposed to read, yes. But what about the core voltage, measured as described?
108  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: 3Ph 600v stped down to 3ph 240v on: October 04, 2022, 05:05:16 PM
Power is volts times amps. 130A 240V makes 31.2KW and at 208V that means 150 amps. From 600V it's 52 amps.


Across one phase.

Across three phase

130A at 240V 3phase

130 x 240 x 1.73 = 53,976 W


Okay but he specified 130A on 240V single phase, which means he was drawing 31.2KW total. Switching to 3ph, let's say it steps down to 208V l-l, the equipment will still be asking for 31.2KW which means 150 amps total, 50 amps per leg. At the 600V side the total draw is around 52 amps (plus transformer losses), around 17 amps per leg. The 1.73 rule doesn't make power magically appear, just changes how it gets there.
109  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: GekkoScience has a new stickminer that does 300+GH on: October 04, 2022, 04:49:07 PM
Everything's tested for hitting at least 220GH at 400MHz across 24 hours before it ships. Peformance beyond that is expected but not guaranteed.

Weird they're underperforming at 400. Have you any kind of meter with which you can read the core voltage? Factory is 1.48V from the USB jack to the marked side of the block in the top half center with the stick plugged in but not hashing.
110  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: GekkoScience has a new stickminer that does 300+GH on: October 03, 2022, 11:06:46 PM
How well does it run at 400MHz?
111  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: 3Ph 600v stped down to 3ph 240v on: September 27, 2022, 01:21:49 AM
NotFuzzyWarm and some others who know power could probably chip in with better specifics. My knowledge is largely academic.
112  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: 3Ph 600v stped down to 3ph 240v on: September 26, 2022, 01:34:30 PM
Power is volts times amps. 130A 240V makes 31.2KW and at 208V that means 150 amps. From 600V it's 52 amps.

Any step-down transformer stage will lose a bit of power. If your 600V three-phase is significantly cheaper than your single phase (probably split phase 240?) you could probably come out ahead. When I ran a small DC, we switched into a "small industrial" rate schedule when we crossed 100KW draw on a 3-phase 400V feed and it dropped the average rate from 8.9c to 6.5c per KWh.

Since power is billed by KWh, raising your voltage to drop the current won't necessarily save on your bill. It'll depend on if they bill 600V 3ph at a lower rate than residential single phase.
113  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: GekkoScience has a new stickminer that does 300+GH on: September 26, 2022, 01:27:50 PM
I don't know why he doesn't update the listing photo. That's from the very first batch of hubs four years ago with the plastic case. Now they're a very snazzy aluminum with a three-color clear vinyl decal label. Way sexier.

But yes ASICPuppy should have the new hub in stock now. Pay attention to the new underside label, because there's new information for the new design. Most importantly how the self-resetting fuses on the ports behave and that if you're pushing it with more than about four sticks you should give it a bit of airflow through the case.
114  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: GekkoScience has a new stickminer that does 300+GH on: September 17, 2022, 01:23:07 AM
Yeah if you want to run more than a few sticks, you'll want to use the 6-pin for long term reliability.
115  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: GekkoScience has a new stickminer that does 300+GH on: September 14, 2022, 02:06:25 PM
It's physically identical to the existing hub, but uses a high-efficiency central regulator instead of several lower-power ones. That means there's no more "6A per port pair" limit. We also put 3.5A PTC resetting fuses on each port for safety.
116  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: GekkoScience has a new stickminer that does 300+GH on: September 14, 2022, 02:15:00 AM
First batch should start shipping by the end of next week.
117  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: GekkoScience has a new stickminer that does 300+GH on: September 01, 2022, 02:05:55 PM
Fix your quotes, dude.

1, yes ticket mask is internal to the ASIC. Like he said, only nonces above the ticket mask are put into the stream of data coming back from the chip. It's similar to how cgminer will get a pool diff, so only nonces above that value will be forwarded to the pool server.

2. When you testd nonces, did you give it all of the appropriate data? ASICBoost uses an additional data field not previously implemented (left as zeroes I believe) in order to generate multiple midstates simultaneously from the same data. If you're not integrating that into the hash, most of your nonces would test bad because you're testing with incomplete data. This explanation is probably insufficient and Kano can tell you more.

3. Sounds like a CRC issue

4. If SHA256 had universal nonces, wouldn't that invalidate the algorithm as cryptographically secure and make exploitation trivial?
118  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Open Source Bitcoin ASIC miner project that uses 2x BM1387 (Antminer S9) on: August 30, 2022, 11:51:18 PM
You can find sockets on aliexpress for around $300 but they won't handle heat very well without modification.
119  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: GekkoScience has a new stickminer that does 300+GH on: August 28, 2022, 06:44:55 PM
No it can't fall out, it's a fixed rotating knob. If you spin it too far, it just starts back over at the beginning. It's basically a tiny volume knob but without stop-blocks at each end.
120  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: GekkoScience has a new stickminer that does 300+GH on: August 28, 2022, 02:13:41 AM
If it hurts, more cooling.

And yes, Windows generally sucks at USB IO and realtime tasks. The factory tests exclusively on linux machines. Kano's code is written for linux and ported to Windows to make people happy, but it's not ideal.
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