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101  Local / 中文 (Chinese) / 这张贴子太大了。自动确认无法阅读了。 我会新建立一个帖子。 on: November 08, 2013, 10:26:00 PM


这张贴子太大了。自动确认无法阅读了。 我会新建立一个帖子。https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=355319
102  Economy / Gambling / Re: [Ice-Dice.com] Free 0.005 BTC | 50% Referral Commission | Invest or Play on: November 08, 2013, 09:07:36 PM
Lol i cant imagine if people win at your site and whether you will pay . just 0.005 promo and you are so chipo i am sure belive if people win at your site you wont pay . you just wan people to lose you cant affort people to win . shut them man beware player .


Maybe you should give it a try and see for yourself! Smiley

ice-dice logs your ip and corrupts your hard drive!~wallet stealer prolly ...then they don't pay out if you ask too many questions!  Roll Eyes

LOL! you have quite an imagination there.
103  Economy / Securities / Re: [Ice-Dice.com] 0% Investor Commission! | Multiple Languages | Invest or Play on: November 08, 2013, 08:32:52 PM
So it matches exactly what I said: I believe you are actually using 0.0001 as the fee and saving the difference to yourself. So you are indeed only paying 0.0001 in fees per kb, whatever remains from that is a gift to you.
So do many, many other services. The thing is, when you send bitcoins to those services, it costs them more than that, as they will usually move the coins elsewhere.
There is also a huge danger in charging fees that can be lower than what bitcoind adds: attackers could absolutely ruin the site in a few hours by depositing and withdrawing right away.
Perhaps 0.0003 can be a average safe enough, but still, it's an immediate safety measure, until there are better ways of predicting fees or offsetting them with what the user made for the site.

you are leaving out the fact that David Lee had promoted his site as a DIRTY COIN MIXING SERVICE!!!!  Roll Eyes _?_this presents more problems imho

This is false. We don't recommend using our service as coin mixing at all since we log all transactions.
104  Economy / Securities / Re: [Ice-Dice.com] 0% Investor Commission! | Multiple Languages | Invest or Play on: November 08, 2013, 09:44:08 AM
Hey guys, See this thread for our bitcointalk exclusive giveaway (no twitter required).
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=327523.0
105  Economy / Gambling / Re: [Ice-Dice.com] Free 0.005 BTC | 50% Referral Commission | Invest or Play on: November 08, 2013, 09:42:36 AM
Well, first off, my twitter giveaway was not 1 BTC

Secondly, I will happily publish the emails once things are settled.

Until you email me, I will not be responding anymore.

Smiley

He is a troll, complaining and tarnishing every dice game thread. Please report him to the mods.

On another note, please be up front about not giving out the free starter money, if the new user has less than 15 followers on Twitter.
I have followed you and shared your tweet already, THEN you mention you cannot give me starter funds.
I only have a twitter account so I can read tweets I'm interested in. I don't tweet, and I don't connect with friends on the site. So while I have been a long time user, I don't make an effort of having people follow me.

Thanks.



Yeah the twitter thing is a pain... i barely use it and only for work really, so after going through the registration to find out I need 5 more followers. Cant I send an email or do some otherway to prove its a real twitter account?

Not currently. If you want to send me an email, I can always ask David!

Sorry about that! Sad

What's your email address?

See this thread for our non twitter giveaway.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=327523.0
106  Economy / Securities / Re: [Ice-Dice.com] 0% Investor Commission! | Multiple Languages | Invest or Play on: November 08, 2013, 05:25:17 AM
Why is such huge lie accepted here ? You say there is 0% investor commission, but in practice you pay only 50% of the profits (2% edge, only 1% edge paid to investors).

Can someone remedy that please ?

This is because the other 50% is paid to referrers who refer players with their referral link.

I've read that too. This doesn't change the fact that you charge 50% commission from the investors. If they left you, you would have no bankroll, and no players, and no one being referred. You are taking 50% from the investors, always, and that is your "0% fee".

I'm sorry that you seemed to be upset by the way we pay our investors. Currently our investors had made about 27BTC in profits and we have paid out almost 30BTC to referrers. Our investors had been happy with their returns and referrers are happy too. In fact, we used to be 1% edge with 10% commission, and it was a large investor who suggested us to change to our current scheme.  

We don't charge 50% commission from the investor because the 50% referral bonus paid out to referrers. It would be different if we are to keep that 50% to ourself. Most investors on our site also shares referral links, which means they have the chance to get a portion of that other 50%. it's just split in a way that 50% to investors, 50% to referrers.



we don't believe you, and what's up with raising the cashout fee to .0005? You need to pay me what you owe me or just make moves outta here !!  Roll Eyes Also, Is there a way to download my bets history I wanna show everyone your cheating rolls!!!

We were losing money from cash outs before because many withdraw transactions would cost any where from 0.0001 to 0.0005 because of wallet defragmentation so we had to raise it to 0.0005.

Well.... that is another lie, or you don't know how this fee works. Can you include some of the recent withdrawals with this new supposed fee ? I believe you are actually using 0.0001 as the fee and saving the difference to yourself, i.e. most of the transactions don't ever use more than 0.0002. This difference is used to fund those promotions you keep spamming with a new thread every fucking damn time.

Nop not a lie, I was recommended by other bitcoin developers to raise it to 0.0005. here is the thread that I asked for help with.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=315842.0

Are you idiot or just pretending to not be able to read ? Did you even read your last reply in that post you just gave ? Here it is for you:


Let me try to lower it back to 0.0001 in my bitcoind


So it matches exactly what I said: I believe you are actually using 0.0001 as the fee and saving the difference to yourself. So you are indeed only paying 0.0001 in fees per kb, whatever remains from that is a gift to you.

Most of the transaction mutliple KB, because of wallet fragmentation. see this for example: https://blockchain.info/tx/f15964762b001eee7350a4614c6357430bd0779a1b1af94784abcf0e73db2249

plus it was recommended by others to raise it to 0.0005.

You really like to reply with false information. I can only reply with the same correct information: you are not sending transactions with 0.0005 fee, instead you set it to 0.0001 per kb and the remaining amount is taken as a gift for you.

Nothing I said was false. Yes some transactions will be less than 0.0005, and we will net a few cents. It was recommended by other devs to cover the worse case scenario. and we state clearly that we will deduct 0.0005 on withdraw.
107  Economy / Securities / Re: [Ice-Dice.com] 0% Investor Commission! | Multiple Languages | Invest or Play on: November 08, 2013, 05:08:17 AM
Why is such huge lie accepted here ? You say there is 0% investor commission, but in practice you pay only 50% of the profits (2% edge, only 1% edge paid to investors).

Can someone remedy that please ?

This is because the other 50% is paid to referrers who refer players with their referral link.

I've read that too. This doesn't change the fact that you charge 50% commission from the investors. If they left you, you would have no bankroll, and no players, and no one being referred. You are taking 50% from the investors, always, and that is your "0% fee".

I'm sorry that you seemed to be upset by the way we pay our investors. Currently our investors had made about 27BTC in profits and we have paid out almost 30BTC to referrers. Our investors had been happy with their returns and referrers are happy too. In fact, we used to be 1% edge with 10% commission, and it was a large investor who suggested us to change to our current scheme.  

We don't charge 50% commission from the investor because the 50% referral bonus paid out to referrers. It would be different if we are to keep that 50% to ourself. Most investors on our site also shares referral links, which means they have the chance to get a portion of that other 50%. it's just split in a way that 50% to investors, 50% to referrers.



we don't believe you, and what's up with raising the cashout fee to .0005? You need to pay me what you owe me or just make moves outta here !!  Roll Eyes Also, Is there a way to download my bets history I wanna show everyone your cheating rolls!!!

We were losing money from cash outs before because many withdraw transactions would cost any where from 0.0001 to 0.0005 because of wallet defragmentation so we had to raise it to 0.0005.

Well.... that is another lie, or you don't know how this fee works. Can you include some of the recent withdrawals with this new supposed fee ? I believe you are actually using 0.0001 as the fee and saving the difference to yourself, i.e. most of the transactions don't ever use more than 0.0002. This difference is used to fund those promotions you keep spamming with a new thread every fucking damn time.

Nop not a lie, I was recommended by other bitcoin developers to raise it to 0.0005. here is the thread that I asked for help with.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=315842.0

Are you idiot or just pretending to not be able to read ? Did you even read your last reply in that post you just gave ? Here it is for you:


Let me try to lower it back to 0.0001 in my bitcoind


So it matches exactly what I said: I believe you are actually using 0.0001 as the fee and saving the difference to yourself. So you are indeed only paying 0.0001 in fees per kb, whatever remains from that is a gift to you.

Most of the transaction mutliple KB, because of wallet fragmentation. see this for example: https://blockchain.info/tx/f15964762b001eee7350a4614c6357430bd0779a1b1af94784abcf0e73db2249

plus it was recommended by others to raise it to 0.0005.
108  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: [ Ice-Dice.com ] Free 0.005BTC BitcoinTalk Exclusive Automated Giveaway! on: November 08, 2013, 05:06:38 AM
1.5 btc wager before you can withdraw omg

Can you clarify that you get 0.005 and have to wager 1.5 BTC before even being able to withdraw ? rofl, are you sure this is a promotion ?

Yes, it's a promotion and we are giving it out for free. You don't have to take it if you don't want to.

You are not giving it for free, you stole these from the fake fees you are charging for withdrawals. You set the fee to 0.0001 per kb, but then charge the players for 0.0005 and whenever there is a difference (98% of the time) you save it up for yourself. Then you start these dummy "promotions" and don't even mention the conditions for withdrawing it.

Like I said earlier, if you don't like our promotion, no one is begging you to take it.

Most of the transaction mutliple KB, because of wallet fragmentation. see this withdraw for example: https://blockchain.info/tx/f15964762b001eee7350a4614c6357430bd0779a1b1af94784abcf0e73db2249

plus it was recommended by other developers to raise it to 0.0005.
109  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: [ Ice-Dice.com ] Free 0.005BTC BitcoinTalk Exclusive Automated Giveaway! on: November 08, 2013, 04:37:36 AM
1.5 btc wager before you can withdraw omg

Can you clarify that you get 0.005 and have to wager 1.5 BTC before even being able to withdraw ? rofl, are you sure this is a promotion ?

Yes, it's a promotion and we are giving it out for free. You don't have to take it if you don't want to.
110  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: [ Ice-Dice.com ] Free 0.005BTC BitcoinTalk Exclusive Automated Giveaway! on: November 08, 2013, 04:30:00 AM
I am enjoying this Smiley

i was never paid out ~don't trust these scammers!


plus whatever you do DON'T DEPOSIT MONEY IN HERE!!!
EVEN THOUGH I WON 200,000 SATOSHIS TODAY>>>*THIS SITE IS DEF CODED TO SCREW YOU!!!~imho

Sorry guys, don't mind this troll. He is known for trolling all the gambling sites spreading false rumours to blackmail for money. Just look at this post history.
111  Economy / Securities / Re: [Ice-Dice.com] 0% Investor Commission! | Multiple Languages | Invest or Play on: November 08, 2013, 04:26:35 AM
Why is such huge lie accepted here ? You say there is 0% investor commission, but in practice you pay only 50% of the profits (2% edge, only 1% edge paid to investors).

Can someone remedy that please ?

This is because the other 50% is paid to referrers who refer players with their referral link.

I've read that too. This doesn't change the fact that you charge 50% commission from the investors. If they left you, you would have no bankroll, and no players, and no one being referred. You are taking 50% from the investors, always, and that is your "0% fee".

I'm sorry that you seemed to be upset by the way we pay our investors. Currently our investors had made about 27BTC in profits and we have paid out almost 30BTC to referrers. Our investors had been happy with their returns and referrers are happy too. In fact, we used to be 1% edge with 10% commission, and it was a large investor who suggested us to change to our current scheme.  

We don't charge 50% commission from the investor because the 50% referral bonus paid out to referrers. It would be different if we are to keep that 50% to ourself. Most investors on our site also shares referral links, which means they have the chance to get a portion of that other 50%. it's just split in a way that 50% to investors, 50% to referrers.



we don't believe you, and what's up with raising the cashout fee to .0005? You need to pay me what you owe me or just make moves outta here !!  Roll Eyes Also, Is there a way to download my bets history I wanna show everyone your cheating rolls!!!

We were losing money from cash outs before because many withdraw transactions would cost any where from 0.0001 to 0.0005 because of wallet defragmentation so we had to raise it to 0.0005.

Well.... that is another lie, or you don't know how this fee works. Can you include some of the recent withdrawals with this new supposed fee ? I believe you are actually using 0.0001 as the fee and saving the difference to yourself, i.e. most of the transactions don't ever use more than 0.0002. This difference is used to fund those promotions you keep spamming with a new thread every fucking damn time.

Nop not a lie, I was recommended by other bitcoin developers to raise it to 0.0005. here is the thread that I asked for help with.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=315842.0

112  Economy / Securities / Re: [Ice-Dice.com] 0% Investor Commission! | Multiple Languages | Invest or Play on: November 08, 2013, 03:47:17 AM
Why is such huge lie accepted here ? You say there is 0% investor commission, but in practice you pay only 50% of the profits (2% edge, only 1% edge paid to investors).

Can someone remedy that please ?

This is because the other 50% is paid to referrers who refer players with their referral link.

I've read that too. This doesn't change the fact that you charge 50% commission from the investors. If they left you, you would have no bankroll, and no players, and no one being referred. You are taking 50% from the investors, always, and that is your "0% fee".

I'm sorry that you seemed to be upset by the way we pay our investors. Currently our investors had made about 27BTC in profits and we have paid out almost 30BTC to referrers. Our investors had been happy with their returns and referrers are happy too. In fact, we used to be 1% edge with 10% commission, and it was a large investor who suggested us to change to our current scheme.  

We don't charge 50% commission from the investor because the 50% referral bonus paid out to referrers. It would be different if we are to keep that 50% to ourself. Most investors on our site also shares referral links, which means they have the chance to get a portion of that other 50%. it's just split in a way that 50% to investors, 50% to referrers.



we don't believe you, and what's up with raising the cashout fee to .0005? You need to pay me what you owe me or just make moves outta here !!  Roll Eyes Also, Is there a way to download my bets history I wanna show everyone your cheating rolls!!!

We were losing money from cash outs before because many withdraw transactions would cost any where from 0.0001 to 0.0005 because of wallet defragmentation so we had to raise it to 0.0005.

complete bet history is available under "All bets" and scroll to the bottom and click show history.
113  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: [ Ice-Dice.com ] Free 0.005BTC BitcoinTalk Exclusive Automated Giveaway! on: November 08, 2013, 03:09:53 AM
Good, now worked instantly.

May i suggest to add a minimum activity as requirements?

So you will sleep well instead of dreaming about promotion abuse like happened with twitter Wink

Good idea.

Ops I realized I had a grammar mistake in the messaging lol. I was going to write Ice-dice.com is an awesome gambling site, but i deleted the last part without removing the "an". it's fixed now.

The message should be "Ice-Dice.com is awesome!" from now on.
114  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: [ Ice-Dice.com ] Free 0.005BTC BitcoinTalk Exclusive Automated Giveaway! on: November 08, 2013, 03:01:27 AM
For me is not working. Stucked on the redeem loading animation.

Sorry if it didn't work earlier. Can you try again? I found a bug, I had the url pointed to http and bitcointalk needed to use https.
115  Economy / Games and rounds / [ Ice-Dice.com ] Free 0.005BTC BitcoinTalk Exclusive Automated Giveaway! on: November 08, 2013, 02:21:45 AM
Thread moved to: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=334119.new#new
116  Economy / Securities / Re: [Ice-Dice.com] 0% Investor Commission! | Multiple Languages | Invest or Play on: November 07, 2013, 10:44:35 PM
Why is such huge lie accepted here ? You say there is 0% investor commission, but in practice you pay only 50% of the profits (2% edge, only 1% edge paid to investors).

Can someone remedy that please ?

This is because the other 50% is paid to referrers who refer players with their referral link.

I've read that too. This doesn't change the fact that you charge 50% commission from the investors. If they left you, you would have no bankroll, and no players, and no one being referred. You are taking 50% from the investors, always, and that is your "0% fee".

I'm sorry that you seemed to be upset by the way we pay our investors. Currently our investors had made about 27BTC in profits and we have paid out almost 30BTC to referrers. Our investors had been happy with their returns and referrers are happy too. In fact, we used to be 1% edge with 10% commission, and it was a large investor who suggested us to change to our current scheme. 

We don't charge 50% commission from the investor because the 50% referral bonus paid out to referrers. It would be different if we are to keep that 50% to ourself. Most investors on our site also shares referral links, which means they have the chance to get a portion of that other 50%. it's just split in a way that 50% to investors, 50% to referrers.
117  Economy / Securities / Re: [Ice-Dice.com] 0% Investor Commission! | Multiple Languages | Invest or Play on: November 07, 2013, 08:58:04 PM
Why is such huge lie accepted here ? You say there is 0% investor commission, but in practice you pay only 50% of the profits (2% edge, only 1% edge paid to investors).

Can someone remedy that please ?

This is because the other 50% is paid to referrers who refer players with their referral link. Here is a copy paste from the referral bonus section of the website on how it works:

Referral Bonus

You can earn big money referring players to Ice Dice!

50% of this website's revenues are paid out as bonuses to 10 levels of referrers everyday. This means you only need to invite a few players to earn massive amount of bonuses!

If you only invite 3 players and each of them invite 3 players, over 10 levels will result in 59049 referees that you can collect referral bonuses from! And the more players you invite, the more bonuses you will make!

To refer players, simply share your unique referral url below and the players who sign up with it will be automatically linked to your account. The number below also shows how many of your referrers became players and how many visited total.


Bonus Eligibility

You must maintain a minimum outstanding investment of 2BTC in Ice Dice
or
Your daily wager must be greater than or equal to 0.1BTC
If a player does not meet the bonus eligibility, then his bonus will be skipped and paid to the person the next level up.

Your commission will be calculated and automatically paid out to your balance daily

Example

You invite 3 players, the 3 players each invite 3 players, then they each invite 3 players... You will receive commission for all 10 levels of players below you. In this example, because each player invite 3 players, over 10 levels will mean you will receive referral bonus from 59049 players! Each player will need to bet 0.1BTC a day to be eligible for their referral bonus, so assuming everyone wagered only their minimum, you will receive 59049 x 0.1BTC x 1% / 10 levels = 5.9049BTC a day. You can always increase your earnings by referring more than 3 players.
118  Economy / Gambling / Re: Gamblers: Please Martingale Carefully! on: November 07, 2013, 08:51:28 PM
we just lowered the minimum bet to 0.00001 btc to give more room for the martingalers
119  Economy / Securities / Re: [Ice-Dice.com] 0% Investor Commission! | Multiple Languages | Invest or Play on: November 07, 2013, 10:11:58 AM
Update: authorized url feature is now disabled for security reasons.

Update: Ice-Dice.com (soon) disabled for security reasons.

Nah we'll be around for a while.
120  Local / 中文 (Chinese) / Re: [Ice-dice.com] 比特币骰子游戏 | 免费赠送0.005BTC给新的玩家 on: November 07, 2013, 10:11:22 AM
对了,在国内可以用 Google Authenticator 吗?
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