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101  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Platform Exchanges Di Indonesia on: October 18, 2021, 05:08:30 AM

2. tidak ada nama pluang (PT PG Berjangka) di 13 exchange terdaftar bappeti. kalau ada apa-apa, kita tidak bisa claim (karena itu ilegal)


Jelas itu tidak ada karena mereka bukan Exchange, tapi broker. Makanya perlu membaca regulasi/aturan/perjanjian kerja sama, jika kalau ada apa-apa kita bisa claim selama anda penyalurnya, kecuali penyalur atau yang melakukan kerja sama dengan mereka pailit atau membatalkan kerja sama, selama anda percaya sama tokocrypto anda bisa claim, mereka itu tidak ilegal karena seperti kata suhu Husna QA jika mengaku mereka itu Exchange maka itu adalah ilegal (selama belum pengajuan untuk exchange), tapi jika mereka mengatakan mereka broker tidaklah ilegal, anda harus mengetahui apa itu broker (pelantara) dan itulah kerja broker, seperti kita beli tanah, mobil, dan lainnya kita mencari "agent" (pelantara) nah mereka menjual prodak orang lain.
Konsepnya 2
1. Agent/broker/pelantara terpecaya
2. Prodak yang menyuplai barang terpercaya
>> Dalam ini pluang terdaftar di Bappebti maka mereka agent terpercaya
>> Dalam hal ini Tokocrypto juga sama exchange terpercaya
Jangan ragu terhadap itu.
Saya juga bilang salah satu diatas putus contract/kerja sama nah disini ada clausula apa yang harus dipenuhi baik pihak tokocrypto kepada pluang, baik pihak pluang kepada userbase.
102  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Bounties (Altcoins) / Re: [BOUNTY] Light DeFi | Twitter/FB/Insta/Reddit Bounty - $10,000 in USDT | 3 Weeks on: October 18, 2021, 01:07:41 AM
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103  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Platform Exchanges Di Indonesia on: October 17, 2021, 04:23:13 PM

Apa itu pluang?, Exchange? ( kalau bukan, ya itu keluar dari topik)


1. Anda melihat poling di atas

Saya tidak perlu menjelaskan apapun sama anda, karena kita bisa membaca, kecuali anda tidak cermat

Pluang itu aplikasi terbitan PG berjangka kalau tidak salah, aplikasi buat invest di berbagai instrumen termasuk kripto. Kalau dlihat di helpdesk sih dia menggandeng Zipmex sama Tokocrypto. Mungkin agan silver bisa ngasih review lebih lanjut, terutama masalah apakah kriptonya itu bisa di WD beneran atau dia cuma bergerak sebagai broker saja (alias yang ditrade bukan kripto real). Kalau biaya WD ane yakin jelas cuma promosi saja, kayak platform" pada umumnya buat narik user dan setelah punya userbase yang stabil bakal dikasih fee lagi.

2. Setau saya mereka menyediakan jasa beli, jual dan menyimpan aset (dari beli di sana) serta dapat di WD dalam bentuk Rupiah saja (exchange>koin ke rupiah saja), setelah saya cermati sepertinya mereka menyimpan aset di tokocrypto (broker) seperti hal beli saham mereka beli Di IDX mereka menampilkan di platform mereka.

3. Jika dilihat mereka sudah terdaftar di Bappebti/Bursa Berjangka (untuk menjalankan broker) dan Kominfo (untuk aplikasi).

4. Ditinjau larinya pemilik platform investasi yang melarikan crypto milik investor kalau di Indonesia bisa di tuntut perusahaan (tanggung jawab perwakilan PT menurut regulasi dapat di pailitkan atau dapat di minta pertanggungjawaban baik secara pidana dan pertada) dan akan di blokir oleh Bappebti/Bursa Berjangka seperti Binomo yang tidak taat ketika di bilang.

5. Terlepas ini hanya trik menarik untuk platform biar ramai userbase. Selama ini masih gratis maka alangkah baiknya di manfaatkan sebaik mungkin.
104  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Badminton Discussion Thread] Thomas & Uber Cups 2021 on: October 17, 2021, 01:29:09 PM
We have the final here; Uber and Thomas cup 2021

Uber: China vs Japan
Thomas: Indonesia vs China

So far China still favorite to have combine Thomas and Uber, but for Thomas they have strong opponent, Indonesia have stable player every line on paper, each players standing on top 10 BWF Rank, Ginting and Jonathan stand on 5th and 7th rank, Mens double; have top 1st and 2nd ranks. while China only have Shi Yuqi on rank 10, Mens double; only have 4th rank. Single, Both (Ginting and Shi Yuqi) meet in opening Final Thomas cup 2021 to night.

On paper, Indonesian players are above China but we should not underestimate China. China is still China with its great history and domination in Badminton. Ginting for example, he could play well against Chou T.Ch and Lee Z J but he played very bad last night against Axelsen.
Anyway, here are the line ups for the Final (found it in our local sports news) as well as in Flashscore.com:
  • Anthony Ginting vs  Lu Guang Zu
  • Fajar/Rian vs He Ji Ting/Zhou Hao Dong
  • Jonatan Christie vs Li Shi Feng
  • Daniel Marthin/Kevin Sanjaya vs Liu Cheng/Wang Yi Lyu
  • Vito vs Weng Hong Yang

There is no Minions and the Daddies for the Doubles Men. I'm not sure why but it seems that the Indonesian head coach is confidence enough to win the Final without our best players for the Doubles Men. Even there is an experiment by having Daniel Martin and Kevin Sanjaya for the 2nd Doubles Men. Lets see how it goes, hope it wont be a blunder.

after seeing the picture above, Indonesia's long struggle is the value of a fantastic victory, this is an interesting achievement, Indonesia is still winning badminton
105  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Platform Exchanges Di Indonesia on: October 16, 2021, 01:42:10 PM
Sekarang lagi aktif memakai Tokocrypto gan, kenapa? proses penarikan ke bank cepet banget kalo di jam kerja. Saya dulu pernah pake Luno dan Indodax tapi ketika mau penarikan ke bank itu proses nyampe biasa sehari trus lebih suka interface untuk website di Tokocrypto sih gan. 
Kalau di Indodax seingat saya belum pernah mengalami proses withdraw sampai lama atau bahkan seharian baru masuk rekening; Sementara di Luno dulu memang masih belum instan proses WD-nya, bahkan saya pernah mengalami sampai berhari-hari belum masuk ke rekening, namun terakhir kali dapat email dari Luno saat ini prosesnya sudah instan.

Sekarang mereka "Pintu" sudah ada 32 coin saya baru melihatnya koreksi sebelumnya hanya 29
Saya lihat di menu Market -> New memang ada sekitar 4 jenis aset kripto yang baru ditambahkan di exchange Pintu.
Baru-baru ini saya mendownload pluang karena saya penasaran dengan harga potongan harga (fee bank)  dalam pembahasan Dan juga ada beberapakali admin SMS pemotongan gratis ke semua bank(WD), saya mencobanya dan itu gratis dan saya membaca nya di FAQ
106  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: IDeX token on: October 16, 2021, 08:40:51 AM
Hi everyone,

I'm new to crypto investments and I need your help.

I have IDeX tokens on my trustwallet I would like to convert to other currency or stablecoin but I don't find any way to do it. Basically if I I go to the swap section, IDeX is not an option.
Anybody can help me?

Thanks!
you just have to send it to an exchange in a country that supports it, if in Indonesia you just send it to Tokocrypto for example and you send it.
first from your trustwallet open the coin look for the word send
open an exchange from your country that supports search for the coin then look for the word "receipt"
then exit the wallet address to receive
enter the wallet into your coin trust wallet after you send it then you convert it to your currency.
107  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: singapore attack binance.com on: October 16, 2021, 12:57:26 AM
Binance.com's time has ended in Singapore they will stop the deposit feature, even though Binance, which is the largest crypto exchange platform in the world based on trading volume, members are given 1 month to withdraw.
This clearly affects BNB
https://www.forbes.com/sites/zinnialee/2021/09/28/binance-to-ban-singapore-users-from-crypto-trading-and-buying-on-its-global-platform/?sh=6d074dd17e17

Yes, the Singapore decision does affect BNB, but I don't think that it does to the degree that you imagine.

Binance coin has a lot more to it than just being a utility token for its CEX. It is also more useful in its application in the BSC which is arguably more important than its CEX going forward in time.

I think that $500/BNB will be breached very soon as a matter of time. It is 3rd coin by market cap for a reason.

there is good news About binance, making them stable again, they are good at maintaining issues and stability, they are working with a football club in Italy (S.S. Lazio).

You can see the discussion below
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5365508.msg58169640#msg58169640
108  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Platform Exchanges Di Indonesia on: October 16, 2021, 12:40:50 AM

Jadi, pertanyaan ini akan saya bantu jawab, untuk saat ini, proses withdraw yang murah yang saya ketahui adalah tokocrypto, karena biaya penarikan untuk jumlah kecil hanya dibutuhkan biaya Rp4.500. Sama seperti Indodax, Anda harus lolos verifikasi terlebih dahulu. cara verifikasinya sudah disebutkan oleh Rengga Jati di atas.



Edit:
Terima kasih koreksinya untuk biaya withdraw tokocrypto memang seharusnya 5.500. ada kesalahan info dari saya
Salah yang paling murah itu "Pintu" kalau platform Indonesia dengan biaya Rp. 4.500 suhu masulum minimum WD itu Rp. 50.000

Sekarang mereka "Pintu" sudah ada 32 coin saya baru melihatnya koreksi sebelumnya hanya 29
109  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Badminton Discussion Thread] Thomas & Uber Cups 2021 on: October 16, 2021, 12:04:43 AM
The Uber Indonesia team will face Thailand, Indonesia team not the favorite in this match but I still hope that Indonesia can reach the semifinals by beating Thailand, Polii/Apriyani should be able to give one point. It is very possible for Thailand to play Intanon as the main single.
It was a pretty good match but Thailand was ahead with a score of 3-2 and they deserved the next round.
the end of the uber indonesia team. what are their current barriers? is the uber team expecting too much of a doubles partner?
because when you see them playing solo Indonesia, it's like losing in any case, both strategy and stamina.

The regeneration process for the Women Single in Indonesia is not working well.
There is no Indonesian single women who have great skills and stamina as what is used to be shown by one of Indonesian Single Women Legend "Susi Susanti".
I believe there are so many talented players in Indonesia but I have no idea why the Indonesian Badminton federation (PBSI) is not able to find and train the young talented players.


Yea, if it's women's singles, no one has matched the legend of "Susi Susanti" but Indonesia has other heroes that have existed even though they don't match "Susi Susanti", such as Mia Audina, Maria Kristin Yulianti, Fitriani and Gregoria Mariska Tunjung.  the legend himself did not immediately become great at first, even Indonesia did not become a favorite in badminton before Susi Susanti won it.
110  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Motosport General discussion tread --- Formula1, MotoGP, WTCC, ETCC, DTM..... on: October 13, 2021, 09:23:29 AM
Thanks you for information.

Recently I was researching some media and I got the following information about Honda's Repsol record;
Repsol Honda's record of success in the main class

If you want to see all the team records in MotoGP, then you have to explore all the teams that are in MotoGP at the moment with a total of 6 factory teams that are already in MotoGP now and Yamaha which has 60 years in the Grand Prix event also has a very good record. very impressive.


quite interesting if we follow yamaha's long road they join the race after 10 days the company, you should also write down their record, don't compare with what I made, Japan is a country including long produced in the moto grand prix.
111  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Motosport General discussion tread --- Formula1, MotoGP, WTCC, ETCC, DTM..... on: October 11, 2021, 06:02:36 AM
this could change after Indonesia sanctioned by WADA, I hope they don't cancel the Moto Gp tournament at the Mandalika circuit.
I don't think so, that for a personal person or Athlete. Mandalika circuit is almost 100% ready for this year (2021), that we can see FIM Superbike on November 14, 2021, on schedule. certainty, Dorna Sports and FIM said MotoGP using Mandalika circuit for the next year. Maybe, at the end of this year, MotoGP racers will be testing out the circuit when they get a race tour in southeast Asia. but, we just watch, because there is no MotoGP racer from Indonesia.
Being a MotoGP racer is a fairly expensive sport that requires a big sponsor, so far there is no company in Indonesia willing to help young talents in MotoGP, but when Mandalika is opened there will be a trigger for interest in Indonesia in the future, this is a good way to host the race first.
112  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Platform Exchanges Di Indonesia on: October 11, 2021, 05:30:35 AM

Terakhir kali saya buka aplikasi Pintu sekarang sudah lumayan banyak asset digital yang disupport di sana, dan dulu sempat juga mengusulkan agar ditambahkan 2fa untuk tambahan keamanan akun, sekarang sudah ada; Intinya mereka cukup terbuka menerima masukan dari teman-teman forum kalau misalkan ada yang mau menyambung komunikasi dengan mereka.

Sekarang mereka sudah ada 29 list asset digital support, dengan pembelian minimal Rp. 11.000 dan bisa memasukan saldo dengan e-wallet (ada: OVO, Dana, Link Aja, shoppeypay dan gopay) sehingga mudah untuk investasi mereka juga mendukung jaringan pada  saat ini men-support tiga jaringan ya, yaitu ERC-20, BEP-2, dan BTC, jadi ini menjadi kendala ketika menggirim matic jika ada aset matic dijaringan matic atau lainnya
113  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Platform Exchanges Di Indonesia on: October 10, 2021, 02:44:21 AM
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btw diskusinya jadi ke KYC Smiley
Sepertinya menjadi spesipik ke KYC, yang paling sulit itu di Upbit untuk KYC.

Untuk "pintu" saya melihat ada yang pernah menginformasikannya dalam btt, akun menjalankan tersebut sekarang tidak aktiv lumayan lama (PintuCrypto), nah kenapa seperti suhu seperti Husna QA,mu_enrico dan/atau siapa saja untuk bangun komunikasi supaya informasinya dapat dikelola disini di tread Indonesia, siapa tahu kan bisa untuk tambah rezeki dan mereka dapat promosi, seperti yang dilakukan oleh manejer bounty.
114  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: When ETH GAS Price will stable? We paid 33.74$ GAS price for 10$ token transfer. on: October 09, 2021, 07:03:55 PM
I think ETH biggest problem is GAS price. Today we paid 33.74$ GAS price for 10$ token transfer.

https://etherscan.io/tx/0xc09e5515f8f53b88b9bd4063a33ce8368f9bf0e8e86ebf4c14b86d25d874161b

What do you think, is there any possibility for ETH GAS price will stable?

I hope, when making transactions, only I am on the ERC network, but it's impossible for network congestion to cause a shortage of gwee, and it has started when Altcoins use the ERC network, this is where the gwee fee comparators appear so that they look at them to use their network.
115  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Is USDT a trustable? on: October 09, 2021, 06:50:33 PM
In recent days lots of bad news are hearing from usdt and what will be happen if the usdt is a scam,should i change other stable coin,any recomendation for the stable coin?

Negative news about USDT began to appear in 2018, when the Trade Commission sued Bitfenix and Tether Ltd for the fact that USDT is not backed by real dollars. Nothing has changed since then, negative news about USDT appears regularly, but at the same time the coin is still functioning on the market, while the capitalization of the coin is constantly increasing. If you want to have fewer problems in the future, then use decentralized stablecoins.
I suggest you should give an example to the OP about other decentralized stablecoins because the OP is still confused, you ordered the OP to use decentralized stablecoins but you didn't mention it, such as movies censoring "ads in it" or what you might think recommends decentralized stablecoins.
116  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Motosport General discussion tread --- Formula1, MotoGP, WTCC, ETCC, DTM..... on: October 09, 2021, 05:55:38 PM

Regarding WADA, the Indonesian Ministry of Youth and Sports will ensure the Mandalika circuit to hold WSBK and MotoGP next year, because with this kind of sanction and an earlier warning, the state party can immediately resolve existing problems with the aim of motorsport being not delayed.

Thanks you for information.

Recently I was researching some media and I got the following information about Honda's Repsol record;
Repsol Honda's record of success in the main class
117  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Indonesia Tidak Ikuti China, Kabar Gembira? on: October 09, 2021, 08:04:23 AM
"Main kripto", sejak kapan Indonesia melegalkan ini sebagai transaksi keuangan dengan cryto?
Indonesia tidak melegalkan cryptocurrency sebagai alat pembayaran sah karena bertentangan dengan undang-undang yang berlaku. Legalitas bitcoin cs di Indonesia hanya sebatas aset komoditi yang hanya dapat ditransaksikan antar pengguna dan platform perdagangan untuk tujuan trading atau investasi. Ada yang jadikan bitcoin cs ini alat pembayaran, tapi hanya pengirim dan penerima yang tahu jika mereka tidak mengungkapkan tujuan transaksinya. Baiknya memang patuh hukum, tapi kalau saya terserah mereka saja.
Itu yang saya maksud anda hanya memperjelas bahasa saja, saya rasa hal yang ilegal masih tetap ada selama hasrta itu ada misalnya kita sering mendengar kata "black market" begitu juga kita selama aturan itu diasumsikan "panisman"(hukum dilihat dari ada yang disangsikan baik cambuk, penjara,potong tangan dan hukuman mati) maka akan banyak yang melanggar
118  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Motosport General discussion tread --- Formula1, MotoGP, WTCC, ETCC, DTM..... on: October 09, 2021, 01:24:30 AM
Thanks for sharing, the provisional calendar for 2022 looks very good, unfortunately Brno is again not included, but maybe next year I'll go to Sachsenring and see the race there live, is also a very nice track for the motorcycles.

Hopefully this schedule does not change or if it changes, the Mandalika circuit remains a racing plan in 2022. It looks interesting that Mandalika is the second race after the opening. I am indeed from Indonesia so I support MotoGP to be in my country, although it seems impossible to watch because it is quite far from me and costs a lot.
Last news  the circuit is still under construction, in August they had reached 92 percent. Even then, it has passed a virtual assessment conducted by Gregorio Lavilla as World SBK Executive Producer and World SBK Circuit Relations Senior Manager Eva Jirsenska.

Source
this could change after Indonesia sanctioned by WADA, I hope they don't cancel the Moto Gp tournament at the Mandalika circuit.
119  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Motosport General discussion tread --- Formula1, MotoGP, WTCC, ETCC, DTM..... on: October 08, 2021, 12:40:17 AM
Indonesia has good news that in 2022 it will carry out Moto GP in the "Mandalika" circuit, for Moto gp fans now can watch it in their own country.
This is in the 2022 calendar.

https://www.motogp.com/en/news/2021/10/07/what-s-new-on-the-2022-provisional-calendar/397224
120  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Motosport General discussion tread --- Formula1, MotoGP, WTCC, ETCC, DTM..... on: October 03, 2021, 11:55:34 PM
The result was that the wing beat the tuning fork he became the king of the American circuit but he was humiliated in his own home.  lol
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